Dirt Bike Hack - no more flat tires!! Lucioli 7mm inner tube
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 พ.ย. 2022
- #Justrolledintotheshop is a new segment we are bringing to you together with PureMoto. This episode we will talk about Lucioli 7mm inner tube
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lucioli 7mm tube - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
1 year running on rear wheel, close to flat to have top traction, super happy so far 👍
Whether or not it is or isn’t an individual rider’s preference, I appreciate you taking the time to share a new product with the Moto community. I’m thankful for TH-camrs like you that are willing to do that for us.
I've considered them months ago. I've ruled them out after finding out the weight. They're heavier than mousse, which is already a boat anchor for the unsprung mass. Tubliss and an 8oz plug kit in the backpack for me.
Agreed I thought that too ,its bad enough running ultra heavy duty tubes with the unsprung weight,but these would be nearly double the weight I would suspect.
Fair point, although the tubes will give you the air spring feeling rather than the dead foam feeling of a mousse. So yes it will be more rotating mass but it might not feel as heavy while riding on the trail
I run ultra heavy duty tubes , and I have no issues or concerns with the extra unsprung weight 🤷♂️
He is Brazilian Mr. Lucioli, form Minas Gerais, the best enduro trails in Brazil!!! Please edit an give the right credits.
I ride dual sport, so both street and off-road. I have used the Tubeliss system for 8 years with no flat tires. This 7mm inner tube setup looks awesome, thank you for sharing!
i love how you put a list of brands with the thickest tubes ! you just saved me some research time! thank you !!
cool, glad it helps
I've been using these in the UK since 2019. I still have my original one with over 250 hrs use plus I have them in my ADV bike which have done 60hrs or so. The weight issue has never caused me any problems. Hard Enduro wise I just run one in the rear and have a mousse up front which is a little lighter. I have punctured one and so have a few guys that I know. However the majority of tubes we have sold at the shop I work at which is probably 400 units or so have been a good investment for the customer. The main thing is fitting them correctly and continued care to make it last longer. Good Job man!
right on Robbo, thanks for sharing!
Apologies for the thread necromancy but, would these be any good for mixed use, like 50% road, 50% off-road, say on an Africa Twin?
@@Skiamakhos I don't think they would be suitable on the bigger adv bikes like the Africa Twin as I don't think they could cope with the higher speed factors on tarmac along with extra weight plus the related heat. They are designed for lightweight dirt bikes.
Excelent Rado! Very nice introduction👌
300ml of slime in each tube has been the best, easiest and cheapest solution for protecting me against punctures.
How does it feel riding with slime if the bike was parked for a week ?
@@CME_Tube21Good question
SLIME for dirtbikes is rubbish. Most holes from nails/metal or caused from low tyre pressure are too big to make slime work.
I tried slime over months and it was just useless.
Cool concept...😎
I used to run moose, and I did like them - switched to Tubliss just to go lighter...so far I love the Tubliss system. I run the front on about 2 PSI because the tire itself is a harder walled tire - rear I run 5 PSI in the rear and ride the nastiest desert stuff with sharp rocks and huge cliffs and hard landings, etc. I've had no problems whatsoever. I think the secret to Tubliss is maintenance, make sure the inner tube is 110 PSI before each ride. Hope I didn't just jinx myself, haha. Rado does such a great job -good vid
thanks a lot, appreciate you sharing your experience
I just bought the combo of Lucioli and so far so good! I previously ran the Bridgestone UHD 4mm tubes front and rear and loved them except the times I got a cactus/yucca stuck into one. But I always need to adjust psi since we ride gnarly terrain and hillclimbs but also fast desert. Mousse isn’t an option and Tubliss have a high failure rate. (Don’t @ me Tubliss Cult)
These Lucioli are the best of both worlds like a Tubliss and like a UHD. They’re not easy to install but with a tire stand it makes it easier. I run them like my UHD at 4PSI but I may try less since the stiffness makes these feel like they have more PSI.
The only downfall (and every system has a downfall) is that these are heavy. I’m not gonna lie. But I got used to it.
From a racing perspective these are super heavy and can still go flat leaving you with a DNF. Been running bibs forever and never worry about DNFs due to flats. When i see sharp rocks i steer right into them on purpose
Running front rear like so far. But im newer to it. Love the traction
A friend runs these and they are HEAVY!
What are racing super cross lol....
it's strange that you present the Lucioli inner tubes and don't have them with you. I use this system and I am very satisfied.
A Russian guy told me a trick where you run two tubes using a rimlock hole.
You could inflate each halfway or keep one in reserve. I haven't tried it yet.
I was jinxed once and got eight flats in eight rides. I was a nail magnet 😂.
Found the mousse to be heavy,hard to change and dead feeling. One broke down on a hot day with a heavy rider.
There's those Enduro balls that seem better than the mousse. Haven't tried them either.
Except for pinch flats, triangle tears and ripped valve stems, fix a flat or slime works good.
If you carry a bike pump and keep refilling it the hole eventually plugs up and you can keep riding.
Spare wheels are the best backup.
Tubeless has made a huge difference on my Mt. Bikes. I haven't needed to use a gummy worm plug or pinched through the tire.
A friend runs low pressure and popped it off the rim making a huge mess and he wasn't carrying a spare tube. Carry a spare tube.
Re: enduro balls - Mike at Taco Moto did some testing a while back and thought they were trash. Sounds great in concept, but they didn't perform well and failed/wore out pretty quickly IIRC.
They are Brazilian made. Here in Brazil they are one of the best choices for running extremely low pressures, because everything else on the market is way too expensive. It can actually be run all the way down to zero psi if needed. But I feel it rides better around 2-4psi.
thanks for sharing. appreciate it
@Tim Brandt That must be the combo, front and rear.
Tubliss is the best man. Lightest setup & easy to plug a tire trailside. No tire removal needed. You can run a tubliss system home on a completely flat tire as well & it will even stay beaded.
people hate on them but like you said there light and the tire is super easy to change. i’m not sure if he mentioned how hard it is to change tires with that tube
Will stick with tubless,lighter and better.Have run with the tire chamber flat for over 20 miles without damaging inner tube plus it keeps tire locked to rim.Damn that would be a heavy set up with a 525 shinko.
Tubliss is junk in my opinion & Mousse is too expensive and doesn't last, so i very keen to try this!
The only problem is their rim lock locations, because the WR for example come with 2 rim lock holes already and if they dont line up you will have to drill a 3rd hole.
Hmm really helpful for dakar rally competitors
I have one in front. Race in Texas. Only one race thus far. I hit everything like I has a mousse setup, no flat. Deflection is low off rocks at 12 psi. I chose it because it last longer than mousse and no flat spots from hauling or storing.
thanks for sharing
I haven’t gotten a flat in 3 years but my bike hasn’t been ridden in 3 years either😂
Why not ride it ?
@@numberone3248 too busy and now it’s really cold here in Washington state
😂
#haxx
I've switched to concrete wheels, but can't find any rubber roads.
I am a broke weekend warrior so I am a budget dedicated rider for 20 years. I ride mostly east coast single track and gncc. I run 4mm heavy duty 10psi front an 5-10psi rear depending on terrain conditions. Never had a flat. I will stick to my experience and NOT buy a set of $300+ tubes. I get in ware I fit in (budget) and I have more fun then the people with better equipment whom just have money to spend. #$20 vs. $300= no brainer
Wow never a flat tyre in 20 years? Do you actually ride or are you that guy who sits and revs at the car park 😂
I rode the thickest HD tubes I could buy for years and still got flats. 13 psi Front and 12.5 psi Rear. Every single time I tried to go even 1/2 psi lower I’d get a pinch flat!
It depends a lot of the trails you ride and the speed of the rider, so many variables!
I’ve narrowed it sown to Mousse Front and Tubliss Rear at 6.5 psi
@@GJT-nc4zk It’s just like a car. There has been people whom has never had a flat tire experience on there car.
@WolfieMel Rather you want to believe me or not it’s just like a car. There are millions of people whom never experience a flat tire on there automobiles.
@@leroywilliams7210 Well sorry about your luck. It’s just like an automobile. There are millions of people whom never experience a flat tire on their car.
Funny you use a photo of low tyre pressure, but have a Tubliss decal clearly on display...
After years of flawless performance out of my 1st and only Tubliss, I'm not going back to a tube, no matter how well marketed. Good review though👍🤪
I wonder what it would do on a DR650 on the highway at 130km/h. Would probably affect acceleration and braking performance, but still a cool concept. I think I'd still prefer doing a tubless conversion, super easy to repair, and makes installing and removing tires a breeze.
Unless you've converted to an 18 inch wheel it won't fit anyway
Hi man, it´s from Brazil, not Italy. I used them for hard enduro for a while, the downside is the wight, they are super heavy
Here in phil, we do that in other way but for habalhabal service only
We have that thing called shoe in a tire
Like putting a tubeless tire or none spike tyre into another tyre before putting the tube. And it works hard as trucker but too heavy for enduro race
haha, thanks for sharing bro!
Hmmm, interesting. The machete part seemed a little gimmicky. I wonder the weight and balancing the wheel. Let us know, Rado! Could be a good option.
Does anyone know how these tubs handle heat from highway riding for dual sport bikes?
Would be great if you could add a link for the product.
what about Tube Saddle? I run them with standard and heavy tubes with single digit pressure and no flats. so cal rock riding and desert speed just adjust pressures.
Quick question for africa twin 1100 l good
bib and tubliss in the same tire, less weight, better sidewall stifness, and gaurteneed no flats from nails/barbed wire.
Maybe a good choice for the round the world adventure but local rides naaah.. Tubliss in the rear and mousse or a tube in front does it for me. Maybe just maybe I’ll think about putting this in my front tire only.
Thank you for an excellent presentation. With a tube this thick would there have to be a pressure adjustment for use on an adventure bike during highway use?
Not sure about the adjustment, but guys are running it in on ADV bikes with no problem
I would be concerned about heat. I love his disclaimer. According to manufacterer, right after he endorses it.
thicker is cool but how much does it weigh. un-sprung weight affects the was your bike handles.
Are the rim locks on these tubes for holding the tube only in place or for the tire as well? I run 2 rim locks currently and they hold the tire fine but the tube starts to move a little at lower pressures.
Would try them, but not drilling my rim
Maximum size tyres....
4 inch rims wide Or 150/80/18 tyres?
Can you build a dirt bike from scratch and link the parts?
Does it over heat can you use it without rim lock
do NOMOUSSE PRO next
I think these will replace my UHD tubes !! I love the adjustability for different terrain over Mousse and the the better thickness over Tubliss !!
I tried Tubliss, first ride I ever did, damn thing split! Useless.
@@bigglyguy8429 that's probably 1 in a million that have split. I beat the piss out of my rear Tubliss and the only thing that ever wears out is the red liner. If the psi is too low the tire will rub on that red liner and wear it out. Only takes one or two times to do so.
@@mountainmonkey172 I had it professionally fitted, but never had a chance to use it cos of covid. Finally got to ride, checked both pressures, all seemed good - first time I hit the brakes hard, the front spun and tore open at the valve. I threw that crap out and put a tube in it. The rear is still tubliss but it if gives any trouble at all it's going in the bin as well. The entire point of spending all that money was to avoid punctures, and the POS let me down on the first long ride
@@bigglyguy8429 that stinks!! It could have been damaged on the install, even pros make mistakes. I wonder if the rim lock was tightened properly?! I am running Tubliss on the rear with very good results. I was running 4 mm heavy duty tube on the front however just switched to bib as I got a front flat halfway through a 2 hr race while running in 1st place😭. The one thing about Tubliss I don't like is once you get a tear in your tire you can plug it to get home, but it won't hold up to aggressive riding after that. That's just my take though.
@@mountainmonkey172 I dunno, I just give up on it.
I like mine, there’s no maintenance after install.
I realize are doing a review without the actual product using a bait picture. You got me I clicked.
Its not a review its a “ just rolled into the shop” news video.. sharing interesting stuff from moto industry.
They're not Italian ninjas my friend, they're Brazilian ninjas
Thanks bro
Hey Rado what about weight mate they would be nearly double that of ultra heavy duty tubes, its bad enough running ultras. ??good video thou mate.
Yes l stopped using Bridgestone UHD tubes after weighing them at 3Kg.
Using Bridgestone HD tubes now with excellent results.
Hello there!how to order and how much it will cost?im from the philippines
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Are rim locks street legal?
yeah, the old guy with the machete is speaking portuguese, not italian
Was talking to a pro rider Sunday who racers with billy bolt he was saying he’s tried everything an he swares by theses tubes
That machete was hitting the table over the tube . Tube wasnt getting pinched all the way down.
What is the wieght difference to a Nittro Mouse Premium or standard 4mm heavy tube?
I believe its heavier than mouse
Maybe just me but I am not comfortable about drilling the rim
I had to drill mine for tubliss. It was a little stressful, but it wasn't too bad.
at 169.00 each I rather run tubliss or any other system than just a tube , that's me .
Any reviews for desert race conditions? I want to run 20psi up front. Not convinced I'll change... A nail will end this tube's life and there'll be no patching it. Drilling the rim doesn't bother me.
Bro 20 psi in the front tire? That’s too much pressure no matter conditions or the tube
Just fill your tire with cement for that 20 Psi feel.
@@jangoreo 🤣
Ha! Not a lot of love for my comment. Probably need to say that I'm not racing, but riding hard on very stony, hard-packed desert roads. It's pinch-flat city out here and I have a gigantic fuel tank and 20kg of luggage on an XR650R. So call it hard ADV riding. I know guys say 15psi is the max you need, but I've never seen that work out in my case. Also never had any love for UHD tubes as you can't patch them. Mousses die too quickly and really feel totally dead. Guess I'll go back to my cement-filled normal tubes :)
The only but is the high price!
To heavy and I’m not drilling my rim
Good day, fellow riders.
I have a 2009 Yamaha WR250F which just had a bottom-end rebuild. We replaced the crankshaft, cylinder, and piston with brand new parts.
After reassembly, we went to start the bike and after a few minutes running we noticed that the oil tank was bulging and then burst open right under the fill/drain plug (see attached photo). We welded it shut, then started the bike. After leaving it running for a while to break in the new piston and cylinder, the oil tank burst open again, this time through the seams on the side.
We are stumped as to what can be causing such a build up of pressure in the oil system, enough to make the oil tank bulge, then burst. I should add that we did not overfill or exceed the oil capacity of the engine, in fact, we underfilled by 200ml.
Can someone help?
Thanks.
Check your breather fittings hoses etc..
Any one every try back in the day cutting up the old inner tube and removing the valve and putting a new inner tube in the tyre and using the old inner tube to stop thorns and sharp sh t getting in to your new inner tube what a hack never got a puncher after that
Mountain bike or BMX i wonder if it works on motorbikes
All this for marketing wtf man
Cutting holes in me wheel naaaaaaaaah
tyre old inner tube new inner tube underneath and rim
I’m curious on how much it weighs
3.5 Kg
@@gianlucajandelli6387 😱😱😱
Im out
always makes me laught to think that a 4 mm tube thickness wil resist a thorn better than a 2 mm. If anything goes throught the tire carcass, it will go 50X far easier through the tube..
That said , pinching tube when hitting can be drastically reduced by simple things : Tube needs to escape from sides ! red rubber grease is the way. Or any natural oil like olive oil. Really good inside rim protection is needed too. You can fold on itself an MTB tube ( valve cut ) as a rim protection. If greased under, no water , sand and mud coming inside from spokes screws too.
5 years I run 0.4 bars rear and 0.5 front with ordinary tubes and using this system. Zero problems.
HUD tubes are nearly impossible to patch on the way. They need good vulcanization, are bulky and heavy to bring as spare... .They can't stahd heat and rides upon 80 km h on summer tarmac liaisons when needed. They slowly desagregete in small gum bullets.
I like your oily idea. Just lubricate the whole tube (outside 😁) ?
thanks for sharing!
i changed to silicone spray the tube, yes all tube, as silicone lasts forever on tube, natural or synthetic. Red rubber grease tends to eaten and being sticky ;( 2 rim locks 180° are the xay too . riding 0.3 now on normal tubes@@CME_Tube21
Thickness of 7 mm means another tire , so basically it will become tire in tire.
the weight is a huge negative. installation is pain. tubliss works great.
thanks for sharing
coolio but at £125 a tube i will stick with my mousse thanks - the tubes only advantage to me is they will be ok at 70-mph on motorways for 100 mile at a time when travelling - this is the only bastard with mousse, i have to consider speeds long term on road, other than that small advantage the expensive heavy tube can still get a flat and cost more than mousse??? i stay with nitro
thanks for sharing
motivate or motovate?
both
What’s up
They are brazilian, not french
Huh I don't know what to think about it. My thing is for that price it would need to last through several tires which for someone like me unfortunately can keep the same tires on for a couple years. So how does it break down, what's the maintenance on making the rubber last, how often do the valve stem and rim locks rip off...I wanna see the R&D? It could be worth it. Oh Snapple! What's the actual pressure of tube, you know it's thicker so 10 psi is now more like 13psi, catch my drift???
Disappointed that you did made a video without having used or tested the product .
Not a review, more like a news. Its “ just rolled into the shop “ segment
Are they lighter than a moose?
Yes. An average moose is 800lb-1,200lb. But these tubes are heavier than mousse.
@@gophop 😑
@@gophop my bad on the wrong spelling lol
Yes, but nowhere near as tasty!
Brazilian lucioli company! Is more expensive than a mousse !
This company is from Brazil 🇧🇷
Yea, i know now. Thanks Gustavo!
No problem. I am a big fan of your videos here on TH-cam! Thanks for making them.
Sounds like it's not really for motocross since 90% of mx bikes have 19" rear wheels. And I think I'll pass on drilling into my 1500 dollar Dubya A60s.
yea, motocross doesnt have a problem with flat tires.. its for hard enduro mostly
That guy with a machete is Brazilian!
yea, I know now. thanks
I love the Lucioli and doing a 100 hr review, and racing Endurocross this Nov with the Lucioli. Review part 1 here: th-cam.com/video/iYdT5eNonLY/w-d-xo.html and part 2 here: th-cam.com/video/BZdbytkO6XI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=c-D7--QaC7VM6yNq I hope this is helpful information!
Everything about this tube sounded good until the part about drilling the rim. I think i’ll pass.
You have to do that for tubliss as well…
Plus when putting a mousse in you have to block up all your holes so no reason you can’t block up the ones you drill same as you would block up the factory drilled ones it’s no different
I was thinking the same thing. I’m not drilling any holes in my expensive rims. And tubliss is trash, I’d never run them anyway. I’ll stick with mousses.
Who cares lol. Drilling a hole in my rim is the LEAST my rims are ever going to see. Rocks smashing into them every ride. A little hole doesn’t hurt a damn thing. I’ve always ran 2 rim locks anyways
@@Cblairjr I agree. I started running 2 rim locks even on UHD tubes because I like to run the pressure low and my tire was slipping (I'm on drilled mousses now though).
Because ur dumb and rather spend more on rims and tubes. These tubes are fkn awesome. I ran over nails and other sharp things. Still no flat tires yet
It's brazilian not italian.
Seems too expensive, tubliss will cost you $200
It's not Italian, it's Brasilian matte.
yea, my bad
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Brazil samurai não italiano
yea, I know now.. thanks
It's not Italian it's from Brazil!!!!!!
My bad, i wish i would do better research
Shut up and take my money
Its Brazilian not Italian! 😆
Yea, i know now 😉
boooooooo!!! how stupid is this!!!!?????
i always want to add as much weight to my bike as possible!!!!!!!!!!
$336.oo