While Pattaya Sleeps, It's Future is Being Written
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Today we look at a recent business article which details some plans for Pattaya's future. Some of the Resort Hotels are already taking shape and we will visit a couple and try to determine if while Pattaya sleeps right now, is it's future being written. Will Pattaya be "transformed" into a conference and convention town? What will remain in the transformation process and what might not make the cut?
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More journalism than the Thaiger has ever done. You are very close to the mark.
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I agree…. Just dumped the Thaiger….they’re getting a little too big for their britches…:-))
The Thaiger is hopeless fluff.
@@whaleshrimp111 he’s a tosser
@@whaleshrimp111 All they do is read government hand outs.
Rudy is a gentleman. Many a time he and his staff helped me out when I had flat tires. Kudos Rudy
Just got sent this vlog today, new subscriber. I am going to spend a hour or so checking out your old vlogs. Awesome channel
I can get expensive upscale accommodations anywhere on the globe. I like the seedy Pattaya. When that is gone, then no reason for me to visit. You are right that this is the direction they will try to take.
I agree, some of the seediness is the charm, hopefully they can't get rid of that.
That is a superb comment Boomslang! You are absolutely correct in your observation.....
Yea it's TRUE without the charms of the ladies why would you bother going, too hot most of the time, too many mosquitoes, pavements are crap, poor rates on thai baht, beach is clean but the sea is full of lice and disease and sewage and can give you skin ailments, the price of beers and food is similar to Europe and England when it used to be great value, to sum up I dont think the rich want this when they can afford much better, pattaya made its name on what it's good at and without that they will have to pull half of it down and build what and for who???????
I find Bangkok to be seedy enough for my liking . So how seedy is Pattaya anyway ?
@@johnallright6847 Doesn’t need to be built for anyone. The developer makes his money regardless. That is why cities all over the world had many unoccupied projects, even before Covid.
What a well produced and thought provoking video, raising the important issue of what Pattaya will look like post-pandemic. I agree with R4K "Follow the Money" It is a long term project where Pattaya will define the resort it wants to be & the tourists it caters for, Asian rather than Westerners.
Great video, enjoying catching up on all the Great content 👍
I have been living in Thailand for over 20 years and never been to Pattaya. You may well have hit on it's new direction. This is by far your most interesting video IMO. Big Thumbs up!
Excellent video with great information. I totally agree about follow the money. It's something I was talking about last year but no one was listening. Keep up the good work!
It sucks that Pattaya will never be the same but I’m glad I got to experience it!! I’ll NEVER forget my first trip and the excitement walking on Walking Street!
Good video my friend. Nice to see someone keeping us up to date with the community spirit of Pattaya.
Great report - Well done. As you mentioned "Time will Tell " AND No Food.
Excellent.
Interesting article, time will tell. Growing up in Pittsburgh who would of thought it would now be a hub for medical research vs. days of steel mills and smog! They say conventions are a big "hook up" party so Pattaya would be a great place to hook up with a local or someone also on a business trip...lol Thanks for the vlog, really enjoy different types of info vs. a you tube vlogger eating food and showing markets, you are showing creativity in your work... much appreciated! Have a great day! rb
Thanks 👍
Pgh here as well…. Is real estate prices going through the roof, while the city around them is on live support?
This made me think of Las Vegas. Some years ago they rebranded to a "family friendly" destination. That did not work out for them so they dropped that and went back to what they were known for and are good at, adult entertainment.
Yes, good point. Sometimes you don't get to chose what you are known for but best to make the most out of it.
every year there's a new batch of adults on both ends of the spectrum, those turning 21 and new retirees
Go Blackhawks
Actually, that's not completely true; I live in Vegas... the whole "change to family friendly" was never actually the plan; it may have even been billed that way, but it was really EXPAND TO INCLUDE families. Even in the height of that push, new strip clubs, casinos etc were opening.
Today, yes I mean today...even with covid... Las Vegas gets tons of families coming to Vegas. Water parks, outdoor adventures, tours, etc all cater to that market.
Pattaya will try to make the push towards more high end guest, they'll clean up the bottom end of the entertainment zones, but they, like Vegas, aren't fools- they aren't going to kill the goose that keeps pumping out golden eggs.🍺🍺
With a growing population its a safe bet to buy land. But do remember that already 2018 the Thai tourist industry complained about a decline in tourism. The shift from high spenders like Europeans to _cheap charlies_ tourists from India and "no dollar" Chinese. There is a shift in travel dynamics worldwide. Its didn't start in 2019 and will not end in 2022. Cambodia and Vietnam was much more alluring to many Europeans 2018. 30 years ago this part of the world only had Thailand, no competition. Today (or just before COVID) there was a number of new destinations competing.
V interesting thanks for showing a different part of Pattaya,. There is huge growth potential as a conference hub it doesn't mean the end of anything else. It's a big place and the Chinese & Indians will be back in greater numbers for sure
We've been hearing about Pattaya's pivot to the conference and convention market for the best part of 20 years.
Yes but now the technology exists to push the bar scene from in the open to behind hotel doors, English is spoken more and websites exist that girls can meet foreigners on. Girls earn more this way than they ever had a chance to in the bars, bye-bye bars, and go-go clubs. Let's not forget the impact of lockdowns. Something will replace these businesses going under.
@@spiritmatrix2004 Your hitting the perverbial nail on the head. I believe you will still have some night clubs... but not the dive go go buy me drinkie joints. Prices will be more, you might have dancers but far more upscale... cover charges... lap dances no touch... bands and or DJ's and dance floors... dress codes to meet before you can enter. High end restaurants... but you are right... the virus issue will pass in time. But over the next 5 years and by 2030. You will not recognize Pattaya.
Sorry but your wrong… Just like with any place this happens, those businesses don’t disappear, they just relocate. Usually to areas more “out of view” and not occupying prime real estate. The Internet isn’t going to sink the girly bar industry. That is pretty short sighted. That’s like saying the online porn industry is killing the strip club industry in the US. Just isn’t happening. Not even close. When it comes to the sex industry, there is human psychology involved, and you just can’t swap out in person interactions with a screen.
Thanks for the vlog and your efforts, Loucous!
I just returned to the states from a few months over there as things were trending downward.
Hoping for the best but it appears the mid 23' timeframe might be fairly accurate, unfortunately.
Best of luck and continue keeping us informed with your unique perspective.
Thailand survived the 1997 financial crisis, it will survive this but as with that crisis it will take years to recover. As for Pattaya the baby boomer generation with good jobs and pensions are dying out , the old Pattaya will never come back. Nothing lasts for ever as Thailand and Pattaya have sadly found out.
That's interesting and definitely true about the baby boomers, they have inadvertently ruined every institution in society as they went through it from grade school, to college to the corporate world etc. There were just too many of them for the existing systems to contain and the various institutions all but buckled under the weight.
Back in 1997 the people in power did not care much about the hedonistic businesses, Today the people in power want to stamp them out
Just nominated you for Peabody Award after this hard hitting investigative journalism.
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Yes you are right. by end of 2023 every thing will come back to normal and by 2022 the world will start opening slowly. Thailand will recover and become better than before. And they will have records of visitors . And all this success will depends on only one thing vaccine to 90%of every one living on earth . I enjoyed your video and have a great day and be safe.
Great research, Lucas! You are on your toes, so to speak...forming your own "crystal ball" ... Peering into the future!
Just don't become Howard Hughe's..."way of the future, way of the future...etc...etc...haha! 😳🤯😎👍
Won't be long before the Chinese will have hold of pattaya buying everything then see the price go up
AWC are Thai-Chinese. Just like the CP group. Yet, they, and others like them are the ones who have consistently driven the Thai economy to help it become an advanced developing county in Asia and investment darling.
@@ynotneb The Chinese descent-Thais and their capital have no link with the mainland capital or government. They were the immigrants after WWII or even before that. If someone need to talk about Chinese's capital , they need to know the background and specify which one.
@@kittenastrophy5951 I don't think it matters where a person of Chinese descent was born or grew up. The ethic Chinese (Han) blood-line is blessed with genes for successful entrepreneurialship. It is proven around the world in a variety of professions, but mostly commerce.
When that happens, time to go to Vietnam or Philippines.
Excellent investigative journalism Lucas
Great update really enjoyed it
Thanks for sharing Lucas, the renaissance looks like a nice place, looking forward to seeing your stay there 👍😀
Hello, could you do a video on the "New Nordic" situation in Pattaya. Apparently, hundreds of investors lost their investment (condo unit with guaranteed return)
Lucas the man from no where but been everywhere. No past professional life, but dabbled in everything... lol... lifelong bachelor. Came to Thailand lost over a hundred pounds , rides an adult mini bike which is far better than a scooter. Tours the countryside and flims with the voice of a professional narrator. Then to mix it up instigates talking points based on Google articles and tabloids lol.. and sits back and enjoys seeing all the views , likes and comments posted... 😎👍 well done and always interesting.
"You will own nothing and be happy"
Ok Judge Smails.
@@Jameschewingfoil No,that was stated by influential CEO Klaus Schwab, the WEF(The World Economic Forum’) is the main driving force for the dystopian ‘great reset’, a tectonic shift that intends to change how we live, work and interact with each other.
Nice video Loucous very informative ty
Thank you for pointing me to the Forbes article, it confirms what I have been saying for years. Real estate prices in Pattaya are not based on the current revenue that is being generated, but future potential. As a good crisis is never waisted, the current situation is just a catalyst. My question for you is: how can we play into this conversion as small investors?
Good question. I was thinking the same myself 🤣
@@Rides4Kickz please let me know when you find an answer. I have been looking for a foreign broker that lets me buy Thai stock. Any other approach, I’d be interested in. It would be interesting to set up a legit private equity initiative to pounce on opportiunities that emerge.
Also a good time … if you haven’t already … to look into the digital asset market.
@@ronjon5241 sure! I’d say the 60% of my portfolio is in equity funds, 39% in equity of holdings and 1% in crypto. However I have absolutely no exposure to opportunities in Thailand (where part of my family lives) or NFTs ... haven’t found my point of enty ;-)
@@GlitteratiLive sounds well diversified and we have some real estate and farm land here and waiting for the Defi platforms to open soon in the crypto space…:-))
My son left Vietnam a month ago , he had to have a test before he got out about £100 or 137 Dollars . Then another two in the UK at a cost of £150 or 206 dollars. That’s 343 dollars. So a family of four would work out 824 dollars . Someone is making a good deal of money and of course jo public is footing the bill . Plus the price of the flight was about twice the price than it was before .
Wow, that's a lot for these tests. I wouldn't think they cost but a fraction of that to produce.
@@Rides4Kickz I thought I read that Soros and Bill Gates bought the companies that produce those tests.
@@josephdrawbond8699 I think so. The vaccine was going to be given out. But Gates got control. Truly souless creeps.
@@Rides4Kickz tests are 5 bucks but you also have Lab costs..The vaccine is cheaper than the tests..
@@josephdrawbond8699 I read that Bill Gates is bigfoot and that Soros lives on the moon and faked the moon landings.
Thank you for all of your great videos and the updates in Pattaya, I will be back in Thailand on September 1st
I never did enjoy Drinking Street, I gave up going there after the 4th try, there was never any atmosphere, people just sitting around, only the pool tables kept me amused so I won't miss that one when it's gone but I do hope the city keeps its entertainment aspect alive, otherwise I can't see me returning anytime soon.
Really good vlog and info and I think you are right.
"Honey, I'll be gone for a couple weeks. Going to a 'conference' at the Pattaya 🍑" 😊
I have been "conferenced" in Chiang Mai.
Just the same as going to one of the thousands of conferences in Vegas.
Watch for it; Pattaya: the SeasSide Vegas.
I can't WAIT!!!! 😃👍🏼👍🏼🍻
Loads of things happening to a supposed "dead town". Brings new meaning to the term "visiting the unseen parts of pattaya"
Thanks Loucous for another unique and introspective presentation. Im constantly impressed that you always come up with something fresh to talk about from a place that has become content stale from being covered over and over by other vloggers.
Much appreciated!
"its like disneyworld without the castle" hahaha! good one!
In Pattaya the rides are better..555
As it said, The future of Thai tourism. The plan is to change Pattaya, push out the regular frarang tourists. Make it less seedy, in their words
No, the plan is to have both. Plenty of room for both. It will be just like Vegas, only on the sea. 👍🏼👍🏼 😍
Those articles are written by "developers" and "investors" who I would trust as far as I could throw them.
But.... best of luck to em !
Fuck that!!! I hope it fails miserably.
You don't know the tycoon Charoen Siriwattana-phakdee well. The man beside that lady CEO.
@@kittenastrophy5951 Perhaps you could enlighten me and the other readers.
@@bradleys4783 I think google can easily provide some hint. I'm not good in explanation. BTW, He's the owner of Leo and Chang beer.
@@kittenastrophy5951 ahhh, I like that guy. Rebuilding Pattaya............. ??? Doesn't mean squat.
Very entertaining and insightful video, right on! 👍
good reporting. excellent information
I love that you are that positive, I wil be back when there open , even for 5 % of the old Pattaya 😀
Good on ya 👍
Pattaya is already upscale - in some spots. When Terminal 21 opened, it’s a sign.
...and still building... watch for the transformation. 👍🏼👍🏼 They were building before, during and will be well beyond covid. It was right there the whole time; I don't know how anybody missed it! 🤷🏼♂️😅👍🏼
@Stefffi Leftie The rich and famous stay at upscale - truly upscale - hotels and treat the hotel staff as their personal dating pool. Sad but true.
Very well thought out and quite on point, yes follow the money hits the nail right on the head, and yes you are right about trying to understand how things will pan out in the next couple of years, ride the wave and invest.
I think you're spot on 👍 Thanks for the insight 🙏
You're very welcome
Good information and very interesting indeed, with some astute observations. I first visited Pattaya in 1986, and as you say, it has already changed beyond recognition since that era. It would make sense for it to continue evolving into something more refined and upscale. Is there really big money for big investors in cheap beer bars and girls? I suspect there is more money in attracting a wealthier more sophisticated clientele. Las Vegas changed from cheap rooms for gamblers to something different, so maybe Pattaya will too. I think there will still be cheap beer bars and girls in 2022, 2023 and 2024 ..., but I doubt the big money is interested in selling cheap beer and girly bar fines...... Will they co-exist? I suspect things as they were known will change.
The big money also has the influence with government officials to get them on board with their “vision.”
Or just the Beginning of State sponsored Tourist attractions for the Ruling ELITES and that is after THEY have eradicated the Middle Class!
Rudy what's up... His shop has done numerous works on different bikes I owned in Thailand... His shop is awesome!!!
Great vid as always. I first went to pattaya in 92&93, didnt go back until 2017 and realised a few of the beer bars had gone which were popular back then. The new bigger bar areas were pretty quiet although walking street was busy. I got the feeling that changes were coming as in clearing most of these bar areas and the article confirms that big hitters are moving in. The pandemic has been a great excuse for this , however surely people knew this was coming. Its going to be hard but lets hope they dont remove the charm of the beautiful city it is. 🤞
One of the benefits to travelling to Thailand is that it can be done on a budget. If Pattaya "transforms" and becomes less cost friendly, then they might lose a lot of their core business. The Bar complexes will cater to a certain type, and judging by the Real Estate Giant, they believe that there in an untapped market that they can take advantage of. Growth comes from adding clients, not replacing them.
Yes, there is definitely a budget segment of traveler, but I think they will still find many options here.
Yep. It's changed so much since I was there in 13'. I've shifted my retirement goal towards Malaysia. It's still relatively quiet and under the radar and cheap. Being majority Muslim and without the "girls" doesn't bother me either.
@@oldcrook510 Plenty of Whores and bars in Malaysia
It’s about cost to serve and contribution margins. Now that the budget crowd has funded the infrastructure, it’s time to squeeze them out in favour of higher margin clients, just as Disney has done along with many other destinations.
I’m with you on this Lucas, if their putting money in then they have belief in the future.
Hopefully Pattaya doesn’t lose too much character in the rebirth.
😊cheers 🍻
I've stayed on soi Whitehouse at the Denmark Hotel many times and the Splendid resort was always full of Chinese maybe there is a connection.
Interesting. Good little soi there though.
Spot on Lucas….”follow the money”… have been for a number of years now… talking about all the money… THE IMF, GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKS, the world reserve currency… and if one pays attention you can stay ahead of major changes… so, the Thailand story falls in line with many other countries in the world. If you notice there’s a trend going in toward digital money and it has been for awhile ….. and the 1% era and the world leaders have been waiting for an opportunity to change … and thus “pandemic” may just work. Thailand is in the game as they along with Japan and Singapore.. most all of Asia are leading the rest the world with digital currency adoption. So, Pattaya is in the plan and may just get a Vegas style makeover…. My family bought a timeshare in Vegas 10 years ago…:-))
It will evolve some what. Investors always want a good deal. My Thai friend. Is closing a deal there. She was purchasing a resort . She is making it into a senior center and rehab resort. She was planning this before the pandemic but now secured financing.
Good idea so many seniors now looking for care at a reasonable rate I may be a client soon lol
Tell her to use Defi soon on zil blockchain be huge like uniswap pancake zilswap moonlet wallet zilpay etc
good idea, usually also connected with Medical procedure tourism/ get the operation (much cheaper in Thailand) and stay for the recovery / follow up on the beach. The crazy "supersize me" guy did an episode on Thai Medical Tourism, very advanced, 20 languages at the front desk and so forth (Morgan Spurlock)
Walking Street is the Bourbon Street of Pattaya. The first rule is always follow the money, so I'm with you. You see cities around the world where business tourism meets old school charm. On another note a friend of mine told me the COVID tests are 100 pounds in the UK. Not sure what they are here in the US, but the 100 dollar range per test seems the average. I hope Rudy survives without barbershops ;)
Haha, he'll manage I guess. But you're right, New Orleans is a perfect example.
The barber shop closed. This man doesn't really need it. 😂 😂
Investment groups around the world are doing this, buying hotels and resorts that have failed to survive, but as a new wave hits USA and it's smart investors who have been buying such places only time will tell if this is a smart move or a little premature. Good luck to them as long as it benefits Thailand .
Very interesting. Reimagining Pattaya. It'll probably be transformed into the Monaco or Boca Raton of Thailand...a get away from Bangkok for rich Thais and tourists. The Hamptons in New York have become the go-to new destination for New York city's wealth. Things are changing fast. Look for Pattaya to start building a yacht club to cater to their new clientele.
Thank you for the good video
I would not bet a satang on ANY thai led project 🤔
This guy deserves an award. How could anyone repeat exactly tge same thing so many times in a shirt video. He will forever be unbeaten in the crusade for the ultimate goal - inrivalled boredom.
Appreciate the editing work you've done here.
Excellent video, in my opinion high end condos and apartments will do well if at 80 percent occupancy and management determines required HOA to maintain it. Typical Pattaya/Jomtiem street with 3 and 4 story buildings may turn into slums like Caracas or Beirut, bars back up to speed is iffy. But investors who bought Southern California fire sale real estate in 2008/09 and could wait it out are reaping huge rents now.
Yeah, I remember people buying houses for $1 on some bad streets in Baltimore in the early 80's, some of those worth over half a million last time I checked. 🤣
I stayed there this past May. It's a great hotel and the pool was awesome. You get a great sunset view. For the breakfast buffet I was able to look and point to what I wanted. They would prepare and bring it to the table.
Sounds like changes are coming. Hope the nightlife survives. Thanks for the update.😎
The convention center events and real estate investments will help support those lower complexes after business men celebrate a new deal or get tired of networking. But you’re right…walking street is the anchor. Not going anywhere! The CEO is smart and investing in those deals will open markets and diversify the Thai economy. Good for her and the Thai people! I hope her big bet works out!
very interesting R4KI used to avoid Walking Street coz of the crowds and go to Drinking Street coz it was quieter shame to see them both now at the moment without tourists
Pattaya reminds me of New Orleans back in the day. Walking Street and Bourbon Street share many of the same characteristics.
My opinion is that all that will be left of Walking Street will be the name.
If you want to change the city, the target you go for is the thing that historically made the city what it is.
In the grand scheme of things Pattaya will survive and thrive. Change will happen both "forced & naturally" as long as people are free to choose how to spend their "money" & time Pattaya will be a desirable destination.
I showed your video to several of my friends that used to live in Pattaya five years ago and before that. The wild, anything goes nature of Pattaya, that was so appealing, is gone and has been gone for several years at that. My compadres and I would have no interest in visiting the new version of the city. But we're old geezers, now ,so it really doesn't matter.
Haha, I think old geezers will still be welcome, some of what you say is gone is true, but some still exists if you know where to look.
change is inevitible! Pattaya has a lot of infrastructure to compliment any future change and would still be a destination for all! cheap charlies to the rich and famous! Long Live Pattaya!
Yeah, there is room for everyone I think.
"follow the money" that's how they got Tricky Dickie Nixon - 'Watergate'. Great vid
Lucas, Thanks for this. Yes agree with the phrase 'follow the money trail'. Now is the time to buy up resorts and repurpose them as condos. Like some of the other subscribers who have said 'high end' is the future. I think the days of bars in Pattaya, Hua Hin, Patpong and Nana are limited. I think Thailand will try to reinvent itself.
Great content
SUPER interesting show today.
Beach and birds Pattaya will never died
It is a buyers market now and if you have money you are able to purchase property for penny's on the dollar. Pattaya will come back in 2 years ( my opinion) and the same party town will come alive again. The Thai people want it, and the foreigners too. I agree with you about following the money but it's impossible for any company to buy it all up. They will cherry pick the higher potential properties. Good job on the video
I'm sure Rudy is OK with the barber shops closing today.
Ha ha I wonder how creative the barber's can be
No , Rudy is pulling his hair out because the barbers are closed.
I can see you put a lot of time into this video. Nice job. Cutting from 1 location to another but continuing on the same thought has to be very time intensive.
Betting on conventions when the zoom boom has indicated that conferences are less necessary?
Businesses have discovered too they can save considerably on travel costs in the digital home working world.
The reimagining looks a little out of date already!
Having been to numerous conventions, it can't replicated with conference calls. Last convention I went to was a home improvement seminar which was informative and I contracted a vendor to redo my pavers. Ask any vendor, conventions is a major deal. If Pattaya hosts car and electronic conventions, to name a few. I see the draw with hotels/resorts fully booked.
Excellent video.
Thank you very much!
GREAT VID .. yes , they will wake up and it will be different ... it is pre ... planned . whilst everyone is asleep and fearful of the future ... the Thai money is depreciating hence global investment to now develop more commerce .. You are spot on .. land grab .. all over the world now .. follow the money
This is a great piece of information. A well-known developer is usually right about his or her investment. They definitely will do their homework before pouring billions of dollars/baht into each property or project. Thank you for your research. I was thinking of the same thing that Thailand will probably recover in 2022/2023 since the mass vaccination is very slow. At least 70% of adults (18 and over) need to be vaccinated with Pfizer or Moderna or Astra Zeneca or Johnson&Johnson before the country can reopen fully, it's too risky to reopen before that goal is achieved.
I used to love Pattaya Beach 40 years ago. One of the things I have noticed from watching Ride 4 kickz is the nightmare of overhead wiring on the streets. I mean there are rooms for $1,000 a night. No sir, time to think about maybe Danang.
Hey lucas.follow the money trail very true.good insight.pattaya will have a up lift .im predicting a casino coming/ beer bars go go bars will be open only to designated area places.walking street still open with some changes.pattaya will rock again.keep it rollin
Interesting view. Thanks for sharing the business/money angle.
Thanks 👍
Good video out put Rides 4, you hit many nails on the head-including indicating the demise of the bear bars, a lot less ex pats around spending there time at a old beer bar, The kind of tourist that will be visiting more of Pattaya are the Navy's of the world on R& R liberty, Actually The Island of Phuket and City of Pattaya are the two favorite liberty ports of US Navy ships . The Thai Navy trains and goes on maneuvers a lot of times with our US Navy-they did even when I was serving in the US Navy a few years back. The Thai governments are very friendly towards the USA & other English speaking western countries vs other countries around them. (Of note: Pattaya can accommodate around two Carriers, 10,000 sailors). The Navy knows what kind of liberty ports their sailors like, to give you an example the type of liberty a sailor might like to indulge in, esp. night life entertainment, OK-lets start with #1.- there has to be good moderately priced eating restaurants (name brand places-a plus), places to get a nice good Thai massage, lots of them at a good price with pretty Thai ladies to take away the stresses of being at sea for six months ha ha. #2.- Really good nightclub venues-with well known celebrity entertainers #3.- a good clean cheap place to sleep after a hard nite of partying and drinking the nite away. But in My opinion, being X-Navy myself, I would like to see the entertainment as #1 along with having a beautiful Thai lady is to spent my time partying the night away during my liberty stay, and also spending my 6 months of hard earned money on a pretty Thai lady that respects a good western man that's not a cheap-scape, and I ain't kidd'n either, you know a guy that will wine and dine a nice turned ankle! ( always use protection)55555
P.S.- the Navy on most parts plan their deployments and liberty ports a year in advance . The US Navy knows what ports like Americans and which ones don't- it's not rocket science...
So much great info , gonna say peeps won't stay with this cos so much education , but awesome insight 👏 ( awesome)
Lucas it would not surprise me be cause there was talk about 3 years ago that City Hall wanted to redevelop the Soi 6 area, and push it back to the other side of 3rd road, and redevelop the area to a more of a family resort and clean up the activities on beach road as well!
Hey Lucaz, yer follow the Money for sure worldwide everytime vood stuff Chris
Great vlog they have been talking about this for years and now is the time to buy as so many are having money problens
Pattaya was crazily over built both in hotels and bars and bar complexes. Walk around all those complexes all over soi bukhao off of Second Road, they had few customers even when the chinese mass hordes were there. Some foriegner put up some money, bought their 200 square foot little bar area, and that was repeated over and over again.
Happening all over the World on large and small scales, in Manchester Pubs shutting down are being snapped up by one of the large breweries, large scale residential developments have gone into overdrive. The rich can always play the long game
They are the ones with cash to buy in at the lows of the market I guess.
The term: follow the money, but my wife won't let me follow her :)
Thailand is finish. Dont give folks fake hope. Your finished
Certainly interesting to speculate about the future of Patts...it's no surprise that a group of wealthy peeps swooped in and bought some properties...real estate prices are low right now...
(the old rule is "buy low...sell high" )...
That convention center has been there for nearly a decade and has seen very little success IMO.
Possibly these new genius' can turn it around but all this will take years and some old fashioned luck I think.
Does this group have the chops to take on multiple large projects in very different locations AND
the actual ability to fundamentally change the dynamic and reputation of an entire city ???
We'll know in about 4 years I guess...
Pattaya is changing yes, but conferences and business need entertaiment and nighlife too. Girls, nighlife and sex wont go any where. Business and sex will always go hand to hand. Pattaya is perfert for that.
Yes, Some of the most popular convention cities in the US have redlight areas.
Welcome to the modern age where women freelance using the internet & apps.
Can you put in a link to the news article you referred to please. Thank you much. Great information.
Walking street will get a Khao San Road makeover.
When the railway between the airports is completed, they will probably start the EEC Thailand project,
which will also have a major impact on the Chonburi / Rayong area.
I'm wondering how much highway traffic will be eliminated once the railroad is completed.
@@Rides4Kickz From what I can see it is 30 km from Pattaya to the nearest train stop
@@Rides4Kickz not much enough. That project aren't meant for the local thais. We still always drive to Phattaya. The Bangna-Trad skyway will also be extended to somewhere beyond Sriracha or Bang Lamung.
Those low end bar complexes in my opinion will be the ones to lead the reopening of Pattaya it will cost very little to reopen them the more high end a place the more that will have to be spent to get them moving, Smart people with money may think differently but I’ll stick with low cost being ahead of the game.
And who will bother coming all this way to patronize those bars in a post-COvid world? That is the question.
@@ynotneb all those guys stuck at home who where sending money to the bar girls while they where online, all those guys will come back looking to hook up with girls in the bars and you know what they probably won’t be there because they will be trying to keep going on online sights and most of those guys will be of to the next big sleazy place like one of Thailand’s neighbours or the Philippines where ever that sort of thing kicks of again