My heart almost stopped at the end when he dropped the 4 into the shocked Dagger instead of slapping her with a 13 damage Detonator, thought he threw an otherwise pretty great run. Eggdad just keeping me on the edge of my seat for that TH-cam engagement money
I'm also not sure if the 1's into poison was the right play that round. Each 1 is doing 1 damage because of poison, which does carry over to the next round and is super if you detonate it, but it's 2 damage with upgraded dagger right now. Tricky.
@@mongmanmarkyt2897 He meant before Beatrice's last turn. If she rolled higher number egg would be cracked so he got lucky that not playing detonator didn't hurt him.
@@mongmanmarkyt2897 No he means the turn before she died. He should've cleared up dagger with the 3 and kept the 4. Then he would've hit her for 13 and the poison would've killed her a turn earlier. If she had rolled higher NL would've died. But alls well that ends well
@@TheBioRules 1 intoi poison are better because they are not only stacking poison which does more damage in the long run but with detonator they are technially adding 2 damage the turn they are playen you should always use detonator when you have mora than 4 poison
In his defense there wasn’t really anything better in his backpack. I understand the validity of people saying that you should change your equipment to match the enemy but I don’t think this game is well made enough for that to actually be a relevant strategy.
MicoDossun Flexibility is absolutely a strategy. How much unspent money did he have by the end of it? How much is that money could be invested into alternate builds?
There were several factors that led to the Direwolf fight being 'easier' than it should have been with his equipment setup: 1) NL had tons of HP going into the fight. (he luckily had a 10 HP apple in the shop before the fight) 2) NL got poison claw+ several times during the fight and was able to make good use of 5's he rolled. 3) NL didn't roll many 5-6's in the fight. 4) NL played quite well during the fight (not using poison needle or detonator knowing they'd do less damage) Had NL bought either Staff or Nudgeblade before the fight and equipped either, it would have removed the 'bad luck' factor of having turns where all dice were 4-6 value. On the contrary NL had fairly average rolls and escaped 1 turn away from lethal. Not thinking about changing equipment made him lose a run a while back where he was against Cornelius (the guy that does 999 damage) and didn't have enough damage equipment leading to 'bad rolls' and ending his run, whereas if he had taken out some of those defensive equipment and put in some damage ones in his backpack the fight would have been easy. To be fair, most fights you don't need to change equipment (its not that type of game), but foresight while doing potentially the "hardest levels in the game" (episode 4), will lead to less 'bad luck' moments. NL did play pretty well most of today's game but I just felt like pointing out a flaw I saw in his game-play.
It just dawned in me that you can take yiur game to the mext level by tailoring your equipement before every fight. Like equiping Leather Armor before the Sneezy fight to counter him.
NL, you missed like 20 damage in that boss fight because you spent your evens on things other than detonator. That easily could have ended the run. I do have to say though that you have greatly improved and I thank you for the company.
Good stuff NL I always look forward to watching your videos everyday. Been watching them for years, and I’ve enjoyed them every time thank you for your content.
You actually played really well NL, but I would love to see you try different playstyles with characters (crowbar, ultima weapon,shield bash etc) , and I think you`d enjoy them as well
Honestly unless you go hard into poison with detonators etc, you should pick up crowbar just in case because the poison needle sucks compared to the upgraded dagger. If you get something that works with counters, you can just cheese the one attack boss with the dodge card and just some damage if you pick just a few pieces along the way, or just leave it in your inventory in the worst case
@@YouSwellow Witch episode 4 = A lot of losses no matter how well you play. It's the worst episode in the game. You could get lucky though. And yes, I've done the 36 episodes.
NL there's still misplays but you've gotten much better the last few episodes, glad to see more episodes of this great series, glad to see you enjoying it and glad to see such a redemption arc
I was gonna be very upset with the Egg if he didn't spin the wheel at the end. That was a great run! Figured he might've missed lethal at the end there by taking an extra poison instead of putting one into Detonator, seemed a little closer than he might've let on
NL remember that Detonator is damage equal to the poison the enemy has, you could have missed lethal in that last fight because of it and almost lost the run
The 2:58 useless bandage instead of the 1 damage on lockpick is my 2nd favorite NL moment of the episode so far. (again for the people complaining that we're ragging on him too much, you're not supposed to take these seriously they're all for fun) EDIT: He acknowledged it next turn, he's learning
The big problem with Poison is that is way too slow unless you're putting huge numbers up. This is extra true when you're doing the elimination rounds, when you really have to be as efficient as possible to compete with the upgrades.
He doesn't take anything that supports poison needle properly and upgrades dagger which makes needles obsolete. I comment this every time I see him play thief but he ignores me.
1:28 Yeah, super lucky roll, that’s fair! I’m not a fan of stupid shit like this. Theoretically, you could literally lose to this guy to no fault of your own.
@@Felipe-hl6nh I guess but it's a matter of time taken is the thing, if you use Five ones in Dagger+ that's 10 damage now, if you use them in Needle+ that's 15 damage (5+4+3+2+1) but over five turns, it takes three turns for Needle to overtake Dagger in damage dealt and that's three turns in which the enemy is dealing damage to you.
@@Felipe-hl6nh Doesnt matter because the raw damage of dagger+ is too much that if you need so much time that needle catches up in damage, you're probably already dead anyways.
But then after the second turn the needle+ would go to 9 then 13 then 17 then 21 the sum is actually 65 in 5 turns with 5 activations each time + the extra you put on dagger+ after that, or even more if you have the double poison equipment I forgot the name of Probably 5 turns is enough to kill with dagger+ and other damaging equip too, I don't think it will ever impact the run too much
NL, you should switch out equipment if you don’t expect to use it against certain enemies. Like the dire wolf fight you could have had two other things instead of poison
The computer might respect blind in the same way you do - it tries to randomly assign dice. It does something, you just don't see it failing to place dice. It seems odd that all status effects would never do anything to enemies
NL's misplays are misleading. "Maybe I could play this game too, and be WAAAAY better at it!" Then I remember thats simply not true, and continue to watch the 500th episode :P
I’m convinced the creators pay him to misplay to frustrate us enough so we feel obligated to buy the game. I believe this is proven by his incessant need to use poison over dagger+ on a full dmg loadout
NL, please get out a pencil and paper and do the actual math for Poison Needle. You are very mistaken with how you are using it, which is to say, you should stop using it. Never put more than a 1 in it, and never use it after Dagger is upgraded at all.
NL please stop thinking needle is great if you aren't going to try and make a full poison run you'd need to roll 5 1's (specifically) over more turns than you'll probably have in the fight to out class Dagger. I don't get why you keep sacking so much damage for no reason trying to play a long game that will never happen
Watching the fight with the kraken showed me this games balance is utter trash. What’s the point in cursing and blinding enemies if they both literally do nothing to them? It’s kind of stupid, also egg boy? Why do you make me cringe in your last battle? You could’ve ended the battle a round sooner by using the detonator instead of unlocking with the 4/6
i wrote out an entire thing of every mistake and after watching that last fight ive just given up. Unshocking dagger to do 10 damage instead of using 4 to use detonator for 13 plus the additonal two dice u would have had for dagger. your brain, you just dont slow down and process all the information given and i think at this point you dont even care to try. The tunnel vision, the basic math and the reading. It is so odd for as smart as im sure you are its like you got smart on other things and brain dumped a ton of other stuff.
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My heart almost stopped at the end when he dropped the 4 into the shocked Dagger instead of slapping her with a 13 damage Detonator, thought he threw an otherwise pretty great run. Eggdad just keeping me on the edge of my seat for that TH-cam engagement money
i mean poison killed her anyway he could have just ended turn and won
I'm also not sure if the 1's into poison was the right play that round. Each 1 is doing 1 damage because of poison, which does carry over to the next round and is super if you detonate it, but it's 2 damage with upgraded dagger right now. Tricky.
@@mongmanmarkyt2897 He meant before Beatrice's last turn. If she rolled higher number egg would be cracked so he got lucky that not playing detonator didn't hurt him.
@@mongmanmarkyt2897 No he means the turn before she died. He should've cleared up dagger with the 3 and kept the 4. Then he would've hit her for 13 and the poison would've killed her a turn earlier. If she had rolled higher NL would've died. But alls well that ends well
@@TheBioRules 1 intoi poison are better because they are not only stacking poison which does more damage in the long run but with detonator they are technially adding 2 damage the turn they are playen you should always use detonator when you have mora than 4 poison
The Egg has overcome the tilt, but Inventor is soon...
dun dun
dawn of the 3rd day
Honestly just skip the inventor, I hate watching it xD
@@nujumkey Its not even a bad class. One of the better ones in all honesty, with how powerful gadgets are.
I love how NL knows the direwolf is strong against poison, yet does not change equipment before the fight.
In his defense there wasn’t really anything better in his backpack. I understand the validity of people saying that you should change your equipment to match the enemy but I don’t think this game is well made enough for that to actually be a relevant strategy.
Ultra tunnel vision when it comes to his equipment assemblage
MicoDossun Flexibility is absolutely a strategy. How much unspent money did he have by the end of it? How much is that money could be invested into alternate builds?
Poison still works perfectly for poison strong enemy's it's still damaging
There were several factors that led to the Direwolf fight being 'easier' than it should have been with his equipment setup:
1) NL had tons of HP going into the fight. (he luckily had a 10 HP apple in the shop before the fight)
2) NL got poison claw+ several times during the fight and was able to make good use of 5's he rolled.
3) NL didn't roll many 5-6's in the fight.
4) NL played quite well during the fight (not using poison needle or detonator knowing they'd do less damage)
Had NL bought either Staff or Nudgeblade before the fight and equipped either, it would have removed the 'bad luck' factor of having turns where all dice were 4-6 value. On the contrary NL had fairly average rolls and escaped 1 turn away from lethal.
Not thinking about changing equipment made him lose a run a while back where he was against Cornelius (the guy that does 999 damage) and didn't have enough damage equipment leading to 'bad rolls' and ending his run, whereas if he had taken out some of those defensive equipment and put in some damage ones in his backpack the fight would have been easy.
To be fair, most fights you don't need to change equipment (its not that type of game), but foresight while doing potentially the "hardest levels in the game" (episode 4), will lead to less 'bad luck' moments. NL did play pretty well most of today's game but I just felt like pointing out a flaw I saw in his game-play.
NL has figured out how to use Lockpick properly!
How did he use it before?
@@karstenveltman5472 He would prioritize 5s and 6s over 4s before.
*reads this comment*
oh good!
*keeps watching*
....*facepalm*
Missing on two detonations for the last fight was a huge misplay, but luck prevailed.
I was just waiting for Beatrice to demolish him for missing so many detonators, but lion luck saved his ass
Andrew Willard this. Oh my god it made me cringe so hard!
Big Boss is this a cringe channel? It seems to me it is
"Should always split a 4 over a 6 for the guaranteed damage." He said while splitting a 6 over a 4 and getting 1 and 5 several times.
"No episode 4 can hold me down"
Coming from someone who beat all 36+ episodes, just you wait till the witch.
Good play this vid egg
30 videos of Witch with a side order of salted egg, comin' up!
and then episode 6 for witch... thats genuinely just torture
@@bobbyjoe4794 episode 5 is genuinely fun tho
Honestly episode 6 is way easier since you get to use mana and you can get lucky with some positive rules.
Watching NL think about his moves and play properly is like a redemption arc
It just dawned in me that you can take yiur game to the mext level by tailoring your equipement before every fight. Like equiping Leather Armor before the Sneezy fight to counter him.
Galaxy brain is going in with no equipment as the Inventor against the Doppelganger.
@@strifera No equipment and an useless Gadget. :p
NL, you missed like 20 damage in that boss fight because you spent your evens on things other than detonator. That easily could have ended the run. I do have to say though that you have greatly improved and I thank you for the company.
Northern "We're gonna level up after this anyways" Lion
Watching egg make decisions in this game stresses me out
Good stuff NL I always look forward to watching your videos everyday. Been watching them for years, and I’ve enjoyed them every time thank you for your content.
"The diference 1 or 2 hp is possibly the difference between a win and a loss"
**Doesn't dupe the 3 for an extra 1 heal**
Haha yeah, that was funny. He said it a couple seconds after missing on a heal.
It is really fun watching your game sharpen up to take on the challenge of ep 4.
You actually played really well NL, but I would love to see you try different playstyles with characters (crowbar, ultima weapon,shield bash etc) , and I think you`d enjoy them as well
not on the elimination rounds
I REALLY wanna see a Crowbar run, man.
Crowbar build doesn't really pop off until he starts seeing Wrecking Ball anyway
Honestly unless you go hard into poison with detonators etc, you should pick up crowbar just in case because the poison needle sucks compared to the upgraded dagger. If you get something that works with counters, you can just cheese the one attack boss with the dodge card and just some damage if you pick just a few pieces along the way, or just leave it in your inventory in the worst case
I love NL's tiny cartoon arm holding the dagger XD
cant wait for eggs reaction to episode 5 and 6
I mean Witch 4 could just make him ragequit.
@@striferaHonestly I don't know what it is but ryan knows how to witch
@@YouSwellow Witch episode 4 = A lot of losses no matter how well you play. It's the worst episode in the game. You could get lucky though. And yes, I've done the 36 episodes.
That 3 turn lock on the paper knight was savage!
NL there's still misplays but you've gotten much better the last few episodes, glad to see more episodes of this great series, glad to see you enjoying it and glad to see such a redemption arc
I was gonna be very upset with the Egg if he didn't spin the wheel at the end. That was a great run! Figured he might've missed lethal at the end there by taking an extra poison instead of putting one into Detonator, seemed a little closer than he might've let on
NL remember that Detonator is damage equal to the poison the enemy has, you could have missed lethal in that last fight because of it and almost lost the run
You threw that so hard at the end. I’m shocked that you won that.
Can’t wait for episode 5 on these. Some of the most fun runs.
Where’s the new Dicey???
The 2:58 useless bandage instead of the 1 damage on lockpick is my 2nd favorite NL moment of the episode so far. (again for the people complaining that we're ragging on him too much, you're not supposed to take these seriously they're all for fun)
EDIT: He acknowledged it next turn, he's learning
Great couple of episodes after that loss streak, much better plays...luck helps too.
NL you can use detonator every turn, and since poison persists and stacks, it grows more and more useful. Good job though
The big problem with Poison is that is way too slow unless you're putting huge numbers up. This is extra true when you're doing the elimination rounds, when you really have to be as efficient as possible to compete with the upgrades.
He doesn't take anything that supports poison needle properly and upgrades dagger which makes needles obsolete. I comment this every time I see him play thief but he ignores me.
I feel like NL overvalues Poison Needle real hard
He's done it!! He's learned from passed mistakes and is growing! Applause sir, applause 👏
I smoke so many blunts watching your videos you da shit keep it up
1:28 Yeah, super lucky roll, that’s fair!
I’m not a fan of stupid shit like this. Theoretically, you could literally lose to this guy to no fault of your own.
You can lose to so many enemies with no fault of your own. That's part of the reason why egg was so tilted, because the game just felt unfair.
Don't split the six split the four!
Man the plays are so much better, but poison needle just ain't worth it once dagger is upgraded.
With many dice it's better
Needle grows quadratically while dagger grows linearly
@@Felipe-hl6nh I guess but it's a matter of time taken is the thing, if you use Five ones in Dagger+ that's 10 damage now, if you use them in Needle+ that's 15 damage (5+4+3+2+1) but over five turns, it takes three turns for Needle to overtake Dagger in damage dealt and that's three turns in which the enemy is dealing damage to you.
@@Felipe-hl6nh Doesnt matter because the raw damage of dagger+ is too much that if you need so much time that needle catches up in damage, you're probably already dead anyways.
@@futhington but the poison is not just a one play and wait. you can have 5, and the next turn 9, and from there use the dagger.
But then after the second turn the needle+ would go to 9
then 13
then 17
then 21
the sum is actually 65 in 5 turns with 5 activations each time
+ the extra you put on dagger+ after that, or even more if you have the double poison equipment I forgot the name of
Probably 5 turns is enough to kill with dagger+ and other damaging equip too, I don't think it will ever impact the run too much
He thinkk
He actt
But most importantly
He got his brain bakk!
Hell yeah!!! Two in a row!! I feel like I can breathe...
Get ready for the witch and jester to take like 5 episodes a piece.
Thief is easily my favorite character.
Some mistakes were made but the Egg is happy and it's the only thing that matters to me.
NL, you should switch out equipment if you don’t expect to use it against certain enemies. Like the dire wolf fight you could have had two other things instead of poison
I found where NL's Isaac skills went
Aye he says my name in the intro that's pretty cool
I dont see how 3 poison is better then 6 dmg. Could someone explain that?
WE'RE BACK
Is their a point in having poison needle if you have dagger+?
no?
@@Mwarrior1991 thanks was doing mental math and tell he got detonator it felt mostly pointless
1:23
and that's when you restart.
except for the fact that it doesn't matter since you're leveling up in another fight anyway
If you restart because you get hit once by space marine on floor run this isn't the kind of game for you.
My egg boi is learning, I'm so proud 😭
The computer might respect blind in the same way you do - it tries to randomly assign dice. It does something, you just don't see it failing to place dice. It seems odd that all status effects would never do anything to enemies
silence and confuse dont do anything to enemies either.
@@Mwarrior1991 an odd design choice
Episode opens with NL missing lethal on a Space Marine hard.
Whoop.
I still dream of a crowbar run by yours truly.
The second see ya definitely got me a good laugh
Good job NL, have fun with the witch lmao
Inject me with that sweet dicey dungeon dopamine egg dad
lmao the Beatrice fight was so misplayed. Lucky that she didn't roll high enough on that final turn!
Yo, NL, try using upgraded crowbar next time you play this character, it's more or less a free win every time
you should try a crowbar build at some point it can be really fun and op
great job egg!
NL's misplays are misleading. "Maybe I could play this game too, and be WAAAAY better at it!" Then I remember thats simply not true, and continue to watch the 500th episode :P
Missed lethal on the last turn of the run phew
Could have killed boss a turn earlier?
Yes.
2 X (1+1) in dagger is better than 2 poison. 3 X 1 is the same damage in either.
NL my man if you're going to use upgraded Dagger anyway why do you even take the needle?
Cause they're useful together
Especially as the thief with many dice
Good job!!
The thief steals the better equipment, does this make the run easier?
Nope. Especially when the equipment does nothing for the thief
New dicey when?
Why would you say no to Hacksaw dude it's a better lockpick
NICE rex!
Let's just all remember our Egg is an awesome Egg
3:55
15:33
NL... why are you this?
commwinting for this man to make more money
Nl's new brain age
Avery Body.
Yo that cam really be shakin
NL please stop taking poison needle it’s just not worth with the dagger+
What is he going to do with a crowbar though?
E: you mean to stop using it once he upgrades the dagger?
This is hard to watch... NL poison needle is horrible and practically useless with upgraded dagger!
I keep saying but he won't listen
I’m convinced the creators pay him to misplay to frustrate us enough so we feel obligated to buy the game. I believe this is proven by his incessant need to use poison over dagger+ on a full dmg loadout
stop using poison needle!
NL, please get out a pencil and paper and do the actual math for Poison Needle. You are very mistaken with how you are using it, which is to say, you should stop using it. Never put more than a 1 in it, and never use it after Dagger is upgraded at all.
2:58 ...why are you healing yourself at full HP?
edit: unintentionally rude
NL you should have used detonator more as a big damage card, but otherwise, great game!
Also poison in this game is garbage.
It's not, he just had only one card to stack it and dagger is just too good
MOOOOOOOOOOREEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
NL please stop thinking needle is great if you aren't going to try and make a full poison run you'd need to roll 5 1's (specifically) over more turns than you'll probably have in the fight to out class Dagger. I don't get why you keep sacking so much damage for no reason trying to play a long game that will never happen
Watching the fight with the kraken showed me this games balance is utter trash. What’s the point in cursing and blinding enemies if they both literally do nothing to them? It’s kind of stupid, also egg boy? Why do you make me cringe in your last battle? You could’ve ended the battle a round sooner by using the detonator instead of unlocking with the 4/6
:D
:D
:(
i wrote out an entire thing of every mistake and after watching that last fight ive just given up. Unshocking dagger to do 10 damage instead of using 4 to use detonator for 13 plus the additonal two dice u would have had for dagger. your brain, you just dont slow down and process all the information given and i think at this point you dont even care to try. The tunnel vision, the basic math and the reading. It is so odd for as smart as im sure you are its like you got smart on other things and brain dumped a ton of other stuff.