yeah, just don't use the 6 for status effect and use the 2 2s instead and put the 6 in Ray gun. The real mistake was even combining dices at the beginning of the turn
@@Reeykz Oh I did not even see that he did not use 2nd hammer. Yeah ok that's double wrong. To me the best turn is double attack, 6 5 and 2 in hammer, hammer and shovel, and 3 in Ray gun for a otal of 22 dmgs. But yeah the fact that he did not use one hammer is even dumber than always using spanner.
Most misplays don't matter in the long run but all it takes is a misplay at the wrong time or a few misplays to accumulate before a level up can rescue you and you're scrambled. 4:00 Doesn't use spike missing 2 damage 7:20 Not visiting the shop before the next fight 12:30 Rolling a 1 in 6 for shock instead of a 1 in 2 for weaken 14:40 Missed a shock proc 18:20 Missed lethal 19:50 Combine the wrong dice missing out on 3 ray gun damage 21:45 Didn't use counterfeit
The fact that weakness takes priority over shocked is a really bad mechanic/bug. The status effects should target different equipment or atleast give shock priority. Maybe even a settings menu to chose which status effects you want to have priority. As it stands it's actually detrimental to bring shock and weakness equipment into a fight
Yeah, you have to pick between shock/weaken and burn/freeze. That said, I disagree shock is universally better than weaken, it really depends on the enemy, many have plenty of dice they can waste on unlocking equipment but nothing can un-weaken a piece of equipment.
I think it's kinda ridiculous that an enemy has two items and also has 1 Weak 1 Shock but only one piece of equipment gets weakened and the other isn't affected. To me the other piece of equipment should get shocked. It seems status effects target a random piece of equipment, and if that equipment has an effect on it then nothing happens. But status effects should really target a random piece of equipment that isn't currently affected by an effect.
@@sagecraft601 oh yeah definitely, but what I meant was that if something gets weakened and shocked, it shouldn't get shocked then u shocked when weakness is applied. I meant that it should get weakened then shocked on top of the weakness
My boi missed lethal on the floor he lost. Not saying it would have saved him (he lost the second he gave up flamethrower because he just did zero damage and had way too many wasted dice) but man it's a horrid play.
sagecraft601 That doesn’t help, but he has a bad habit of relying too heavily on utility equipment. Every dice that goes unused is a pretty major problem IMO. A max turn of 12 damage with no shield is nowhere near good enough. It’s why he’s so much better as the robot and the thief - he maximizes damage pretty consistently with those characters and so often fails to with the warrior and the inventor.
sagecraft601 He also dramatically overvalues shock and spanner - the latter of which is kind of terrible if you have good equipment. One shock is worth very little because most enemies have extra dice anyways, and spanner provides zero extra damage if you have four damage sources already.
NL, for the future, if you’re using Inventor and don’t wanna take the chance of losing equipment you really want to keep, just don’t use it for fights and save scrap for more important fights to use that equipment.
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NL, shrinking equips on the inventor is usually a sub par call, considering you're yeeting gear every fight. You'll run into fights where that upgrade has no actual benefit because you had nothing to fill that space.
if you haved to get rid of an equipment you like and the choice is between 2 that fill the same role you usually want to get rid of the one that is a 2 slot and keep the other one (shobel instead of hammer+)
Ryan is not crazy, see 14:55, Vacuum Lord had 1 weakness and 1 shock, but the only applied effect was 1 weakness. Maybe the same equip (in that case Blood Suck) got shocked and also weakened, which removed the shock? Perhaps working as intended, perhaps a bug.
Working as intended, generally you can't have two status effects on the same dice. The more I play this game the more I've decided that effects are not really worth much and especially to go out of the way for
With the Inventor you just want to stockpile damage dealing equipment and not care about anything else. Upgrading and dice manipulation just isn't worth it, get as many Hammers, Shovels etc as you can so you don't run out and so you have somewhere to dump the 6s from your ult
dont forget that he complains about inventor because he literally has no equipment the entire game. he focuses solely on upgrading and hoping the upgraded equipment doesnt get sacked. The good gadget's you get from the good equip are worth enough.
Shock and weaken İce and fire Those dont go well together because they block eachother You cant burn and freeze a dice at the same time And you cant shock and weaken an equipment at the same time.
Dicey is ruthless. If you make any mistakes later on and you don't immediately level up, chances are the mistake is gonna snowball into a defeat. Letting the Direwolf play one more turn at 18:20 made it so you had one less turn against the Beetle, and you needed just this one turn to survive against him. Fighting the Gargoyle instead of going for the path with HP was the biggest mistake, though. Even if ryab survived the beetle he would've died right after for lack of HP.
Sir, they do work. How they have coded them is that you only get one status effect at a time. You cannot freeze and burn a dice, you cannot shock and weaken an equipment. It may not be how people want it to work, but it is an intentional choice. Most likely to prevent you from putting 8 status on everything. If you pay attention, you can see the shocked! comes up before the Weakened! very quickly, it just gets overridden
You know, he did exactly the opposite of what he said he needed to do. He said he needed to take it slow, then he just went super fast on the last floor. Poor pathing, poor plays and it got him
Never noticed, but at 12:56, all his gear comes in normally *except* his Hammer+ which comes in slightly later. That one then turns out to be cursed during that turn. Maybe it's a tell to see which gear is cursed that turn? Could be useful, Egg
This is the episode that killed my desire to keep playing. I find the Inventor to be so unfun that I couldn't bring myself to repeat the same episode over and over with her
Trying is not yeeting yourself into the stratosphere by going so fast your forget you can play a 2. He started out well, but as soon as he gets on a roll it's all over
gonna be honest out of all the classes you died on this but u got the farthest easily. the other people you were only getting far because of luck. Oh and your constant misplays kept fucking u over.
@@Ulgroth Except it is a bug and nowhere in the game does it say you can't apply shock and weaken to the same equipment. Get your facts straight next time before you call someone incompetent.
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18:25 My man is thinking so far into the future he forgot he could just swing with a non-6 dice and win.
18:31 Wait... can't he just... literally use the 2 to win the fight?
literally?
yup
yeah, just don't use the 6 for status effect and use the 2 2s instead and put the 6 in Ray gun. The real mistake was even combining dices at the beginning of the turn
@@VictouffeVideos No he could've legit just put one of the 2's into the second Hammer and won..
@@Reeykz Oh I did not even see that he did not use 2nd hammer. Yeah ok that's double wrong. To me the best turn is double attack, 6 5 and 2 in hammer, hammer and shovel, and 3 in Ray gun for a otal of 22 dmgs.
But yeah the fact that he did not use one hammer is even dumber than always using spanner.
18:24 WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!
AAAAAAAG THANKS FOR THE COMPANY AAAAA
Edward Malovnek cringe intensifies
achievements weren't in the game before the most recent patch, but are given retroactively
I love you NL, but 18:26 is a what?
its him misssing out on two differnt ways to lethal the enemy you know common egg play
18:25 umm, you ok there buddy?
Most misplays don't matter in the long run but all it takes is a misplay at the wrong time or a few misplays to accumulate before a level up can rescue you and you're scrambled.
4:00 Doesn't use spike missing 2 damage
7:20 Not visiting the shop before the next fight
12:30 Rolling a 1 in 6 for shock instead of a 1 in 2 for weaken
14:40 Missed a shock proc
18:20 Missed lethal
19:50 Combine the wrong dice missing out on 3 ray gun damage
21:45 Didn't use counterfeit
The fact that weakness takes priority over shocked is a really bad mechanic/bug. The status effects should target different equipment or atleast give shock priority. Maybe even a settings menu to chose which status effects you want to have priority. As it stands it's actually detrimental to bring shock and weakness equipment into a fight
Yeah, you have to pick between shock/weaken and burn/freeze. That said, I disagree shock is universally better than weaken, it really depends on the enemy, many have plenty of dice they can waste on unlocking equipment but nothing can un-weaken a piece of equipment.
Easy. Priority is given to what is applied first.
At least let the second effect move on to different equipment. That last fight was a good example and may have been salvageable without the bug
I think it's kinda ridiculous that an enemy has two items and also has 1 Weak 1 Shock but only one piece of equipment gets weakened and the other isn't affected. To me the other piece of equipment should get shocked. It seems status effects target a random piece of equipment, and if that equipment has an effect on it then nothing happens. But status effects should really target a random piece of equipment that isn't currently affected by an effect.
@@sagecraft601 oh yeah definitely, but what I meant was that if something gets weakened and shocked, it shouldn't get shocked then u shocked when weakness is applied. I meant that it should get weakened then shocked on top of the weakness
I don't mind misplays as much when he recognizes the mistake almost immediately
The misplay at 18:36 is horrible
My boi missed lethal on the floor he lost. Not saying it would have saved him (he lost the second he gave up flamethrower because he just did zero damage and had way too many wasted dice) but man it's a horrid play.
IMO he lost when he didn't use his money to buy as many pieces of equipment as possible, quantity>quality for the inventor
sagecraft601 That doesn’t help, but he has a bad habit of relying too heavily on utility equipment. Every dice that goes unused is a pretty major problem IMO. A max turn of 12 damage with no shield is nowhere near good enough. It’s why he’s so much better as the robot and the thief - he maximizes damage pretty consistently with those characters and so often fails to with the warrior and the inventor.
sagecraft601 He also dramatically overvalues shock and spanner - the latter of which is kind of terrible if you have good equipment. One shock is worth very little because most enemies have extra dice anyways, and spanner provides zero extra damage if you have four damage sources already.
Flamethrower plus Chocolate Cookie is so fucking nuts, and he threw it away. It made me so sad.
Consider pathing when starting floors. 17:32 most likely killed the run.
Thanks for the company brother
Everytime I think there was a misplay but aren't sure I scroll down to the comments and get instant validation lol
In this episode, NL willingly tazes a child to death for taking some pocket change from him.
It's his utopia
NL, for the future, if you’re using Inventor and don’t wanna take the chance of losing equipment you really want to keep, just don’t use it for fights and save scrap for more important fights to use that equipment.
Alternatively, play around 2 pieces of equipment that you'll refuse to give up.
I know everyone is talking 18:20 but nl uses too much setup equipment his top damage without equipment was 12 at the end
My man, don’t stop playing; you’ll get through the game soon enough! Just have fun
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You want to become an English/Literature teacher and you don't know the difference between your and you're? LUL
@@OlujaDoTokija Nerd emoji
@@fruitsalad2379 only 3 years late
@@OlujaDoTokija sue me
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i dont know who is crazier: egg for pumping out nonstop content all the time or me for watching every last one of them
NL, shrinking equips on the inventor is usually a sub par call, considering you're yeeting gear every fight. You'll run into fights where that upgrade has no actual benefit because you had nothing to fill that space.
8:40 "As long as we kill you, you're dead next turn anyway."
This should go into Ryan's book of universal thruths.
I love the amount of quality content you keep putting out NL
my god that play at 18:18 you could have hit with hammer for 2 and killed him
That 18:35 play just cooked my egg and obviously his egg as well. Damn it egg lord
if you haved to get rid of an equipment you like and the choice is between 2 that fill the same role you usually want to get rid of the one that is a 2 slot and keep the other one (shobel instead of hammer+)
Ryan is not crazy, see 14:55, Vacuum Lord had 1 weakness and 1 shock, but the only applied effect was 1 weakness. Maybe the same equip (in that case Blood Suck) got shocked and also weakened, which removed the shock? Perhaps working as intended, perhaps a bug.
Shock and weakness can't be applied to the same move just like how freeze and burn can't be applied to the same dice
Working as intended, generally you can't have two status effects on the same dice. The more I play this game the more I've decided that effects are not really worth much and especially to go out of the way for
With the Inventor you just want to stockpile damage dealing equipment and not care about anything else. Upgrading and dice manipulation just isn't worth it, get as many Hammers, Shovels etc as you can so you don't run out and so you have somewhere to dump the 6s from your ult
dont forget that he complains about inventor because he literally has no equipment the entire game. he focuses solely on upgrading and hoping the upgraded equipment doesnt get sacked. The good gadget's you get from the good equip are worth enough.
What are you talking about? You can safely upgrade 2 pieces of equipmnet and you never lose tyem
Shock and weaken
İce and fire
Those dont go well together because they block eachother
You cant burn and freeze a dice at the same time
And you cant shock and weaken an equipment at the same time.
Dicey is ruthless. If you make any mistakes later on and you don't immediately level up, chances are the mistake is gonna snowball into a defeat. Letting the Direwolf play one more turn at 18:20 made it so you had one less turn against the Beetle, and you needed just this one turn to survive against him. Fighting the Gargoyle instead of going for the path with HP was the biggest mistake, though. Even if ryab survived the beetle he would've died right after for lack of HP.
the 5 in flamethrower hurt so badly.
Effects don't always stack. IE, a piece of equipment can only be shocked OR weakened. A dice can only be burnt OR frozen.
The status effects, indeed, do not always work. This game is phenomenal, but you would think this stuff would be pretty easy to program
Sir, they do work. How they have coded them is that you only get one status effect at a time. You cannot freeze and burn a dice, you cannot shock and weaken an equipment. It may not be how people want it to work, but it is an intentional choice. Most likely to prevent you from putting 8 status on everything. If you pay attention, you can see the shocked! comes up before the Weakened! very quickly, it just gets overridden
Johnathon Abbott And the AI behavior?
You know, he did exactly the opposite of what he said he needed to do. He said he needed to take it slow, then he just went super fast on the last floor. Poor pathing, poor plays and it got him
Missing out on the majesty of upgraded Flamethrower is an outrage.
36 damage, brother
Especially when he had a fury equipment chance he could yeeted the last boss for 24x3 on turn 2
And if you do it on an enemy that is weak to fire that's 96 damage in one turn brother
Dicey dungeons seems to have the weirdest ass heirarchy of status effects. Somehow the weaken nullifies shock
An equipment thats shocked, can't be weakend, and an equipment thats weakend, can't be shocked at the same time.
Inventor episode 4 was the hardest one for me, fwiw. (At least after the recent update/rebalance)
NL, please just slow down. You're just yeeting the dice into the wrong slots left and right because you get so confident.
18:18 Ryan, you're going too fast!
I’ve never said “you shmuck” more than when I started watching you
Hey, are characters getting scared when beating CH4? What's up with that?
yeah its a nice little detail. i'm not sure if it's based on episode 4 or clearing a total of 4 episodes, but their bios and expressions change a bit.
How does Northernlion continue to show his mug after moments like 18:20? Does he have no shame?
"Rubber duck every single problem" that just sounds wrong to me.
Episode 6 hard mode is harder than episode 4, also I would say the inventor is significantly harder than the witch
Just gotta add to this 18:20 swamp, what in the world...
Never noticed, but at 12:56, all his gear comes in normally *except* his Hammer+ which comes in slightly later. That one then turns out to be cursed during that turn. Maybe it's a tell to see which gear is cursed that turn? Could be useful, Egg
18:29 eme,y has 1HP my dude has 2 dice and a hammer "cant kill you"
Why does NL not read patch notes?
Ok, that one misplay was bad, but WTF were those status effects? They did not work as intended!
18:29 what was this?
Sorceress is playing like NL XD
If you're making this series every other day you better git gud so it doesn't take forever
yes
Scrolling down these comments everyone is just pointing out the same mistakes, can we appreciate the good plays for once?
His bad plays got him killed. Also just forgetting that hammer can take anything and not just a 6 is pretty fucking stupid
This is the episode that killed my desire to keep playing. I find the Inventor to be so unfun that I couldn't bring myself to repeat the same episode over and over with her
Thumbs up it you understood the rubber duck
shock and weaken override each other
More D-Dungeons!
ahhh dude, u played pretty good i think. gg
Took me like 7 tries to get inventor episode 4
All other episodes took me 1-2 tries :'(
18:26 pot play dicey dungeon style
lost a few fights in the future cuz he didnt realize that a 2 roll does damage too lmao.
Spanner does seem kinda crap since inventors ult turns everything into a 6 anyway
NotLikeThis at getting rid of electromagnet over spanner
EXTREME NOTLIKETHIS OVER GETTING RID OF FLAMETHROWER OVER SPANNER
18:27 math is hard ok?
GUYS CHILL the eggman is trying
Trying is not yeeting yourself into the stratosphere by going so fast your forget you can play a 2. He started out well, but as soon as he gets on a roll it's all over
They need to fix the bugs in the game
That's not a bug my dude. You can only apply one status at a time.
The Witch and Inventor are awful. I’ve also lost more runs to a Sneezy rolling 6’s than I’d care to admit. I still love the game though.
gonna be honest out of all the classes you died on this but u got the farthest easily. the other people you were only getting far because of luck. Oh and your constant misplays kept fucking u over.
frustrated watching this every day... just think egg. stop russian
Happy you lost, coz that stuff you did at @18:18 ...
Lol not third
Lol not second
Lol not first
Lol first
Why does that matter?
both of his vacuum's attacks weren't shocked because the weaken cancelled it out
wish you would learn the game mechanics before calling things bugged
It is a bug. You can see the game try to apply both status effects at the start of the enemy's turn but weaken takes precedence.
That would require nl to read or be competent. youve seen that he cant do basic math. you cant expect much.
@@Ulgroth Except it is a bug and nowhere in the game does it say you can't apply shock and weaken to the same equipment. Get your facts straight next time before you call someone incompetent.
my facts are years of watching NL be stupid. i think im good.
@@Ulgroth You are so salty. I love it