Waste oil distillate fuel - ethoxide cleaning, odor removing.
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- A method of cleaning and odor-removing distilled WMO-based fuel.
This method uses some easy-to-get reagents, ethyl alcohol (sold as methylated spirit), sodium hydroxide (caustic soda, drain cleaner), silica gel (cat toilet crystals), plus water. No need for sulfuric acid or poisonous methanol.
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very good recipe to make biodiesel. I'll dare suggest you can add to process - using quicklime instead silica gel to dehydrate final stage.
In Brazil - before our national alcohol project (for fuel) when high technology were developed, the production of dehydrate Ethylic alcohol was done by quicklime. I believe 100 or 150 g of lime might be enough - try it.
Congrats to you
Excellent video.
I'm going to have to think this might make a nice way to clean up some types of homebrewed biocrude as well 🤔
Respect to Avidyne/Aspen for stepping up with a glass panel. This is going to be brilliant.
Hello, thank you so much for this video, is it possible to get more details, qty , concentration of alcohol etc ? Regards,
Awesome Alex!!
Thanks a lot.
That’s great if you’re retired. A lot of work to get setup. Great video thanks
This whole process seems similar to how biodiese is made from waste cookin oil except normally methanol is used instead of ethanol, and it’s heated before being added to the waste oil
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Sodium ethoxide can be prepared in two ways. By reaction of sodium metal in ethanol, or by electrolysis of an anhydrous solution of NaOH in ethanol at high current.
so is the WMO just filtered waste engine oil, or has it been distilled by heat?
What do you do with all that waste you create? Must cost more than the fuel is worth to dispose of it.
Can we used sel instead of sodium or potassium ?
Do have a product buying link... where can you buy that stuff
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good job
So what is use of the end product?
Dose it smell like disel also or no?
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Pretty nice and yes, you could have made Schnaps with the same efforts too.
sure, check my channel, there are plenty of Schnaps videos too.
10-4!
You probably is getting something other than ethoxide: CH3CH2- as sodium hydroxide in spite of being a strong base is not strong enough to generate ethoxide the reason being that the ethanol is a extremely weak acid, and in order for it to react like one you need brutal bases: metallic sodium (particularly in aprotic solvents like THF) is a good one, I guess you could use Lithium from batteries too.
diluted acidic potassium permanganate (say in diluted sulfuric acid) can be also used to oxidize some impurities and you can clarify the colloidal suspension of MnO2 with sodium sulfite afterwards..
would it not be better just to buy red diesel if locally sourced.
Has the waste oil distillate shown in the video been produced with the home made still as in earlier videos ? Or is this process a direct treatment of WMO into a clean WMO for blending into a diesel fuel alternative ?
Since its referred to as distillate.....
Hi, is there any chemical which can be used to adjust the ph of waste engine oil before distillation to avoid thermal cracking?
Ethanol amine
Acids and bases
Nice video
How much does ДТ cost in your country? Will this work pay off?
Hi, I would like to tell you what I do when drying biodiesel. After raising the temperature, I turn on the air for 15 minutes and all the moisture will evaporate quickly.
Good, I am not running air after the heating, as there is some silica gel and other deposits at the bottom, just do not want them to float around.
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G'day mate, does the silica gel just stay in the tank? And you drain good fuel out thru it, cheers
would it be beneficial to do this with raw wmo to get as much yucks out of it (aka..... less to filter/centrifuge cause it fell out via this process) prior to distilling to a diesel fraction?
You could but from what I gather is that a lot of mess forms at the bottom and lowers efficiency and makes things more dangerous
@@johndowe7003 that is my point.... only centrifuge what is above the settlement. will then take less centrifuge passes to get an oil that is more uniform... thus will crack easier and cleaner as you distill it.
This is great, just discovered your channel. I run only diesel vehicles and collect enough waste oil to power my vehicles even with an 80% recovery rate through distillation. I've been wanting to have a go at cracking it for the longest time.
It seems like the addition of a centrifuge could be quite useful at a variety of stages in the cracking and refining processes?
Yes the centrifuge at the final stage would be a great addition.
@@santeryi9 have you considered using waste gas or light fractions as the heat source for the still?
I imagine that would come with risks, but the reduction of electricity demand seems possibly worthwhile?
@@FirstLast-tx3yj I personally have no use for petrol/gasoline, so that wouldn't rank highly in my priorities. I use a bit of diesel though. I'm yet to attempt any of this. One of these days ill get there.
Do you process it before putting it in the car's tank
Just run filtered waste oil in an iDI. The only step.
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You got yourself a sub, i gotta try this. Been collecting wmo but to use in a conara im going to modify but if i can put it in my landcruiser that'd be great.
Please note, this is WMO distillate, not a straight WMO.
@@santeryi9 means u first distilled a wmo into distilled wmo right?
@@ZarawarKhan-gs8hr Yes you are right, it is distilled oil.
Thanks a great video, which not only save money, but soil pollution by WMO. I have a question. Waste oil may be containing a part of synthetic and semi synthetic oil also in it, say 30%. Would this method still valid and give a good fuel or do we need to alter the volume of silica gel/ethoxide to remove impurities?
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Ei Alek que sensacional seu trabalho tive esses problemas com o combustível lá na África do Sul quando produzi combustível com pneus, plástico, grama já a gasolina de CO2 já saí limpa .
Que ideoma es sus? Espanol, dialect no se O portu, que yo no Saber. Only curios, Englese mi natal idioma. Gracias amigo!
Eu agora estou no Brasil falo português
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I would be brutally honest, when i did this i bought 2 chepest diesel fuel filters for golf 2, 2 plastic barrels and one pump. then added diesel for it to be 50/50 .I cycled 2 times the used oil thru the filters. The OM611 2.2L Mercedes engine run on it just fine without any issue. I drove at least 40 000km on that sort of fuel. I drove always long distances. The W210 rusted to the point where i cant pass inspection so i just bought a cheap w203 1.8 gasoline with lpg and forgot about the used oil thing. LPG makes me feel i am contirbuting to the cleaner air.
do you have to use the near 100% Ethyl, or can you use the 70ish% ethyl rubbing alcohol? Huge price difference. Ever tested it?
I use 90+ you can try 70% why not?
Hi, I am thinking about making my own diesel. Could please help me with some information. Where do you get the alcohol for a decent price in new zealand? Any idea for a cheap set up to produce 30-50 liters per week with an acceptable quality?
Thanks!
Hi, I am making my alcohol. Otherwise, you can use blue methylated spirits. It is ethyl alcohol (ethanol) with some die. It is usually 5 dollars per liter in any supermarket. It will be enough to treat up to 80L of fuel sodium hydroxide sold in bunnings, currently trying to complete a construction manual about a reliable system.
Methylated spirits are alcohol. Also try paint shops.
Diesel fan here..located Australia,access to heaps of waste oil at work (mechanic)..have nearly 1000 litres of used oil stashed away
Is there any pdfs or such on how to do this?
How can i remove oil from water in waste water and cooling water with Chemicals Treatment..? Can you guide please
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Hello great video i was wondering what grade of silica gel is it the same a desicant silica
Yes it is
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Do you used thermal source ?
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It looks very similar to biodiesel process
Alek why do you use SILICA GEL and from where did you take the silica
Silica is for water and pigment removal, it polishes the fuel, also I am not always use silica, a heat drying and centrifuge filtration, my silica is from a supermarket - cat litter crystals.
I cut off second added water..i collect waste oil , blend in 15 rud and mix with paddles till blended.Then i run two 454hvoil pumps wide open for few hours off batteries and solar panels. Then i let it sit for day to fee depending on how i feel.i then pump off the top cleaned blend an let solids for burning.i pump up into loft an the gravity feed into a centrifuge at about 3-5gal how. Then into tank for inspection.then either pump into use tank of back up for another pass.300k in 8.3 dp so far but i do service every 10k period all filters if they need it or not.Figure i saved on fuel i to get filters, inframe kit 6 new injectors and a head incase problems. No i do not heat mine but i only mix and clean durning summer too.End up with plenty left over so i only pickup bulk in winter if its over 150gal.I use vacuum system for pickup, so much easier , faster and less mess and headaches.
You should be able to improve your drying result, if you neutralize the remaining NaOH (for example with some muriatic acid) in your solution before adding the silica, as silica does not work well in basic environments.
CaO better
Can synthetic oil or oil that has been mixed ie old engine oil / gear oil be used for this process as well
Please read the description, - I am cleaning distilled oil, so if you redistill the oil mix, then yes, you can use this method for the distillate cleaning.
I plan to do the used oil cleaning experiment soon, and if successful, I will upload and share it.
Hi thank you so much for doing this amazing video. Good job, but can i use methanol instead of ethyl alcohol and what is the purpose of adding silica gel?
Hi, I think you can use methanol, in my case I am trying to avoid toxic reagents, the silica is absorbs water, tar and polymers, greatly improving the final result.
How long should i mix sodium hydroxide with methanol?
@@lakshanpasindu6000 I think you have to use potassium hydroxide with methanol
(Methoxide)
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Is this reclaimed base oil and how to clean more and make it bright yellow golden
In my case I use it as fuel, so no real need to make it bright yellow, bur I would recomment to store it with silica for longer period of time and it will become bright yellow in week time, so some absorbent will do the trick.
With the addition of several chemicals is thevoul still usabke in the engine?
Those chemicals are just reagents to remove all the tar and polymers from the fuel, then simple water and neutral absorbent. There is no chemical by the end of the process in fuel, and everything is drained and filtered out.
Oxygen can not be used while stirring. It is a strong oxidizing agent that significantly affects the process itself and its result. For chemical mixing, it is necessary to use a rotary mechanism with a frequency converter...
Yes I know, this is a poor man's system, planning a recirculating centrifugal pump for mixing.
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The fuel cleaning process, i.e. sorption of the product cannot take place in this way, it is not serious. You could take a simple funnel
Do you mean that the material should be thrown. and stirring. And this must be isolated from the air. Or the barrel is closed and suspended from the top by a motor with an internal stirrer
What about a mixture of 78% nitrogen and 20.9% oxygen?
@@warrenm374 thats air and what alek is using and has been advised not to
I tried, Polyether Amines TEPA, and it also cleans the fuel. It sequesters the dirt. Getting a thick black goo to the bottom of the container. But it take 2 weeks to do it.
with this method the black goo drops in 30min.
Hi Alek, will methanol work instead of Ethanol as used in Biodiesel.
Yes, it will.
can tell you are a Kiwi because you eat Anatoth jam. Do you know a recipe for clarifying used motor oil and thickening it to make chainsaw bar oil?
what do the silica gel do? other then pull some water out? do it pull other stuff out?
Removes tar, polymers, colorings, the silica gets dark, the fuel gets transparent.
@@santeryi9 is it possible to get that out of the gel again? like burning it out.
@@grapsorz yes you can burn it out
Did U remove the silica beads? Cheers
Hi! Does it have to be distilled first by heat and cool it down before I put it on the pot so I can Achieve that color?
Yes it does! The title says "waste oil DISTILLATE."
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Nice job Alek! I have your plans for a WMO distillation set up. Diesel obviously has a particular odor to it when burnt. WMO when burned, has a less tolerable smell. Does the process in this video change the odor or smell to more like traditional pump purchased Diesel?
Yes, removes the odor from the homemade fuel, makes it less prominent than the pump diesel, smells more like a fresh engine oil.
@@santeryi9 please I’d like to know how much it’ll cost me to make a set up which will purifier about 500-1000ltrs in a day.
Can the dirty residue be used as heat source
Sir cleaning one's engine oil with silica gel is a bit costly sir do you have any process which can renew the engine oil at low cost would be very helpful sir
It's only costly if you cannot reuse the silica after the process. I wonder if it can be cleaned after its used. Maybe a solvent wash then a drying would make it work again.
What would this fuel be used for? Thanks, I have the opportunity to get lots of waste diesel motor oil and auto oil, and used cooking oil, can I mix them together or would they need to be processed separately? Thanks for the great video
The cooking oil should be processed separately, and the final result can be mixed. Waste motor oil should be distilled first. The fuel is for my diesel Mazda MPV 2500cc turbo diesel.
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How much did it cost you to do the whole process and versus how long will you be able to use that for whatever purpose you want to?
Yea... plus time
If we use more caustic soda or a little more ethanol, would it destroy the process?
It's better to have excess ethanol as it is a fuel on its own. Excess caustic soda, especially if it is unreacted, will cause saponification and create soap in your fuel.
is it suitable for an engine?
What is the thick level?
viscosity?
i need formula to use it
HI THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS FANTASTIC VIDEO.I OWN A WORKSHOP SO HAVE ALOT OF OLD ENGINE OIL.I DID EVERYTHING AS YOU EXPLAINED BUT MY OIL IS STILL BLACK.CAN I INCREASE THE VOLUME OF THE CEMICALS TO SEE IF I CAN CHANGE IT TO A LIGHTER COLOUR OR WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST I DO.THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP.
Hi, please read the description - I am treating the distilled oil, not the black one from a sump. Hopefully, soon I will upload the oil cleaning method video.
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@@santeryi9 Hello Alek thank you so much for your sharing, what's the hygrometer value after 3 days?
Many thanks for sharing this tehnic with people... I m hapy to find your video! ✌️My ask is: how old car I must have to runing on this fuel!??? Many greetings ✌️
Best for plunger type fuel pump equipped cars.
What exactly are you gaining from this process? I've worked with used oil/waste oil for years and all I have ever done is run it through 10-micron filters to get it clean and then blend it with ~20 to 30% E85 to get diesel engines to run normally on it.
Here I am processing pyrolysis oil, removing asphaltenes and tar that otherwise will clog the fuel system. And no need to add any petrol.
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Hi! Can I re-use the silica gel again? And also did u heat the oil first before putting it on the pot at 0:20
Hi, yes you can reuse silica after reactivation, you will need to bake it in furnace, make it red hot, then cool down, may reuse for a couple of times, then you can turn it to sodium silicate, remove all the impurities and turn it back to clean silica gel.
Ther oil at the beginning is cold, otherwise you may risk to turn it to thick soapy substance.
@@santeryi9So It has to be distilled by heat first then I should cool it down?. Thx
Hi @Alek Polek ,can this be used for petro engine oil?
yes, but distill the oil first.
@@santeryi9 thanks would like to see you doing one video about how to go about it
is this suitable to use in a furnace to fire up for hot water boiler to heat house???
Yes, it is suitable for furnace.
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You made this video very interesting and thanks
How do you remove the silica gel after removing the water from the engine oil? Is it by filtration??
the silica is in the crystal state and does not dissolve in the fuel, it deposits at the bottom of the vessel. Also, at the bottom, a fine mesh screen holds the crystals. Plus, fuel is run through the fuel filter before filling the car.
@@santeryi9 Is the net placed in the place of the oil exit from the inside.
Mamy thanks to you for sharing your knowledge. Pls how do i recycle waste lubricants oil into useful oil.. i need your advice plss
I'll tell you
@@vijaygavarasani9137 please advise
Hi there :)
1. I hope the tank and pipes you are using are not made of aluminum but stainless steel, because aluminum and its alloys will corrode in contact with NaOH.
2) NaOH is a strong base, "rinse" the oil with one liter of water will not remove it, it should be neutralized with some acid imho.
3) I think silica gel absorb water, but with NaOH, so it should not be dried and reused.
4) Dissolving NaOH releases a lot of heat, which may cause the solution to boil and splashing it around.
In general that is interesting video. 👍🏻
The tank is stainless steel, the NaOH is in miniscular amount reacted with alcohol releasing the heat, so added to the fuel cold with no exothermic reaction, then it reacts with tar, settles and drained, washed and drained again, copper stripe test or water extract test is done upon the use, the used silica is mixed with NaOH again and boiled with a bit of water that turns it to sodium silicate, then dirt collected from the top of solution, later sodium silicate is converted to silica gel again. Also note that if any NaOH would be in the treated fuel, then silica gel will react with it and become neutral sodium silicate, so there is no alkali in the fuel.
I use use waste oil but only filtered it to use in my diesel never distilled it or added anything
Hi, can be used this process to clean out some residue of waste oil for LTO burner ?
The oil must be distilled first.
Instead of using air compressor for mixing the ethoxide inside the waste motor oil, can we assemble an electric motor with a propeller shaft for mixing? 220 volt AC horsepower electric motor.
Yes, will be even better.
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а как со смазывающим свойством у такого топлива?
сколько стоит инструкция по сборке мининпз?
Топливо делается из масла, по сути это базовое масло ну и смазывающие своиства соответственно как у масла, еще я добавляю немного двухтактного масла. А так использую ка смазку для скользящих частей токарного станка, скользит прекрасно, лучше чем современная сухая соляра.
Цены на новую инструкцию пока нет - инструкция в производстве, старая стоит сто америки.
у меня форсунки заклинили через 100 км после использования самодельной солярки, добавка смазывающей присадки обязательна. двухтактное масло никакого влияния на смазывающую способность не имеет, оно лишь немного повышает цетановое число, на эту тему есть результаты исследований.
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Если не очистить как следует и поторопиться то полимеры и смолы осядут в топливной системе, залепят клапана, форсунки, заблокируют насос, и тд. Я об этом говорю в своих видео, во первых после отгона надо отстоять, несмотря на прозрачность, сформируется много осадка, затем химическая очистка или отстой на сисликагеле, после хим очистки опять отстой на абсорбенте. если ест; сомнения то перед употреблением наливаем в чистую стеклянную посуду, даём постоять несколько часов и если на стенках посуды образуется налёт в виде тёмных точек - значит топливо неготово и в нём продолжаются процессы икисления и образования полимеров, они то и блокируют топливную систему. Все эти предосторожноти желательно делать до тех пор пока вы не найдете приемлемый для вас способ очистки топлива, в котором вы будете уверены.
У меня одна машина бообще не видела соляры с заправки около 8ми лет, на самодельной наездил около двухсот тысяч километров, сейчас сын подрос, отдал ему он на ней ездит, намотала машина около 430000км, заводится и не дымит. В соляру как самодельную так и с заправки добавляю еще присадку для топлива моррейс, таким образом решаю возможные недостатки топлива. Всегда обслуживаю машину, меняю фильтры и тд. Но с дуру что попало заливатьне стоит.
Could you please give me a list of all the equipment you use please
I am using the oil distiller, the conical container for oil preparation and later fuel treatment, metal containers for bitumen collection, plastic containers for fuel storage, and a transfer pump with an oil filter for car fueling.
Is it can be use to vegetble oil ?
almost the same, but for vege oil usually using methanol/sodiun hydroxide mixture.
Zasto firme koje proizvode bio dizel tvrde da to nije pravi bio dizel i da njihov bio dizel moz bit do -14 ko i pravi dizel sta jos dodaju
Biodizel od biljnog ulja i životinjskih masti obično ne voli niske temperature, vjerovatno dodaju kerozin, tu su i aditivi protiv zaleđivanja za avionska goriva, kao što je etil celosolf (2-etoksietanol)
You used the silica gel once, can the silica gel tie be used again or is it only used once?
Yes, you can regenerate it by heating to red hot state burning out all the impurities, also may add some sodium hydroxide and turn it into a liquid form of sodium silicate, dilute with water, filter, boil water out add hydrochloric acid and turn it into silica gel again.
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Question, why do you add the water to the mix only to drain it out 10 hours later, is there a reason for adding and missing in the water?
I am adding and mixing water with fuel to dissolve and remove any remaining alkali, also I giving it a time to separate from the fuel and deposit to the bottom of the container.
What do you do with the residual 'waste' products, how do you get rid of them?
alek doesnt use a flame but some people just toss it in the heating chamber or have a dedicated line to vaporize it and toss it back into the burner which once its going good can be so the main burner fuel is turned off and maintained by the offgass or slugdge
After all the process is that diesel suitable for use in any diesel car or truck
yes, after all the treatment it is suitable for any diesel engine.
Thank you so much from my heart. Go ahead for mankind. No doubt YOU are a good scientist.
Thanks a lot.
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Did viscosity change? Because I don't having a black fuel
First distillation of wmo, then chemical cleaning, and yes viscosity will change.
Is the Ethyl Alcohol a solution like the 70% solution of other alcohol?
I use 94% alcohol
What did you use for heating the fuel?. Did you produce Disel fuel? Can you use it on vehicles?
During processing, if I need the fiel to be warm I use a cartrige heater incerted in a stainless tube that plugged at one end, I control the temperture by suppressing the element with a voltage regulator, thus I can keep it at any desired temperature, and yes I make my own diesel fuel and use it for my diesel cars.
Hello, is it possible to get rid of carcinogenic compounds and heavy metals that enter the atmosphere during combustion through such cleaning? Have a good day
Thats what your emissions system attempted to do. It sprays urea mixed with water to the point it won't hold any more, (def), and this not only sequesters the heavy pollutants like metals but cuts down the sulphur dioxide levels too
It's a very long process, approximately what percentage of clean oil do you produce?
Yes it is a long process, take into account that I show how to do it in a bigger volume not in a lab glass. the process can be replicated with a much bigger quantity and it will justify time spent.
Hi, what destination is the cleaned oil for?
Looks to be a tank on a csr
Can it be used as diesel if it is distilled again with a two-machine?
Hi, this was complete treatment, and this fuel can be used as diesel. I will release second part where I fueling my car with it.
@@santeryi9 thanks dear
Hello sir.. please say alternatives of silica gel...
anhydrous magnesium sulfate or calcium chloride