Where else can you learn this information? I haven't seen it anywheres. Decades of sawmilling or watching your channel. Thanks for teaching us and helping with that learning curve. No wonder so many sawmillers give up frustrated. Contempt prior to investigate will keep a man in everlasting ignorance. Ty much
Thanks! You are right, these are techniques that make us the highest grade hardwood producer in Alabama for 3 consecutive years. Real secrets from a real sawmill business, not a Spandex Sawmill.
I can't wait to get my hands on my mill and crank her up for the first time. I would walk out, throw a junk log on, a half dull band, and try to replicate everything you just went over. It's a lot easier for me to learn hands-on. Can't thank you enough, Robert! More priceless information from The Proffesor!
You certainly packed this video full of golden nuggets! Thank you for that!!! This might be a rookie question....would the effects of a dull blade be more significant on a mill with a less powerful engine? 14 hp vs 35hp?
The signs you point out are ones that I've always picked up on, but never consciencely verbalized or enumerated. With the 4 degree bands, strings are the biggest or first thing I notice, but the explosive entry goes along with that. I also notice if my band jumps at the end or at any point. When I start seeing strings on the exit side I know I'm getting some tearing versus clean cutting. Of course these are signs when band is slowly dulling at a normal rate versus a sudden problem like hitting a stone, or sand in bark etc. In those cases you often get sudden chatter and poor cutting, not smooth. Thanks Robert!
An average knucklehead such as myself would take many logs and a few years of milling, to learn all the details and telltales that Robert packs into one short video. Get out there, mill for a day, get yourself settled in after supper with a "Milton Movie" and feel the lightbulb come on. Thanks Professor for all the education and tradecraft reveals!
I thought people were getting bored with walnut, so I rotated to my other stuff! That's why I need comments, so I know how to mesh what people want to see vs what I need to cut up as a business. Thanks!
Another great bit of information, thanks. You can definitely hear when the blade dips, it "sings" when it's cutting flat, and goes silent when it dips. Hand pushing a smaller mill helps connect you more to the machine, making it easier to feel .
Robert, I’ve been watching your videos ever since I got my sawmill back in November last year and then trying different things that you’re teaching and you have helped me out tremendously specially about the speed and listening to the blade in the sound it makes and also the dumbness of a blade I just wanted to thank you and appreciate your videos Tremendously, you have a great and wonderful day. May the Lord bless you
Robert, I want to thank you for these technical lessons you share. As a “new” sawyer with an LT35, I do sometimes feel I’m in the wrong class sort of speak. Like I’m sitting in the advanced class, having skipped the beginner. Lol. But I’m paying close attention. Please keep it up👍
When i was re watching i thought about the sound of the cant coming down on the mill deck with to much saw dust on them, I can hear that as well while sawing. Knowing what these sounds mean are key! Even with ear protection! Thanks again for a great video sir!
For what its worth ,im retired military machinist if when you sharpen your blades make the gullet 1/4" deeper that will give your chip more room to escape and your blade will last longer , i tried to tell nathan from tn. but don't think he reads comments thanks from sweet hm AL.PS it works for me
Thanks for all the info. I run a Norwood LM30 and it does a great job. I just love the process. I cut lumber to build stuff around my farm (sheds mostly) and for a little wood working projects I enjoy doing. BTW I'm only about an hour or so away from you over here at Higdon AL. I hope to make it over there to see your operation some day.
From $6K to $73K that's the minimum range of profit return every week I thinks it's not a bad one for me, now I have enough to pay bills and take care of my family.
VENTURING into the trading world without the help of a profesionals, trading and expecting profit is like turning water into wine you would need a miracle.
Very engaging right from the beginning These are tough and frankly I appreciate how you discuss global finances in such a delicate way. Business and investment
Experted Ann Marie strunk was my hope during the 'bear summer' last year. I did so many mistakes but also learned so much from it, and of course from Maria strunk.
Just sold a property in Alaska and I'm thinking to put the cash in stocks, I know everyone is saying it's ripe but Is this a time to buy stocks? How long until a full recovery? How are other people in the same market raking in over $450k gains within months, I'm really just confused at this point.
Awesome, have watching since Christmas Day, as often as I can anyway. I’m moving backward in time. I just don’t want to start at the beginning, I have a bunch to learn. Should I go all the way back?
What kind of SFPM does the band run on your LT70? I'm trying to upgrade my old LT40 with more HP and would like to compare the blade speed with you're getting. With some added power I might be able to increase the speed if needed.
Overpriced and they cut slower because they have a wider kerf. Good for very specialty species, but in general, not worth it. I have some new ones hanging up, I never use them.
Very informative! I have been getting the exit fibers in poplar... but still cutting flat. I'm going to watch out for your other clues. I have increase cut speed and have moved from "flour" to "corn meal" thanks to your previous video.
I have a lt35 and just bought a woodland mills sharpener and setter. I can't seem to get my dull blades really sharp. I've sharpened a few that were nice and a few that didn't cut much at all. I've learned to deburr the blade, but can't seem to know when they're sharp. I can sharpen a chainsaw easily. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
I'll make a video, but basically how do you know they are sharp? I did mine for years and couldn't get a consisted grind. Zoom way up with your phone and look for any glinting at all on the tooth corners, which means the band is not sharp yet. Plus you need to make sure your hook angle is still correct, as sometimes the sharpener will push off. Then, make sure the set is correct.
Congratulations on hitting 18k subscribers Awesome video & getting your point across. You've help me a great deal. I am wondering why you don't switch your control station position? Was your supper 70 wired for the wireless controller? Thanks again sir, Craig
On my manual mill I can tell when the band is getting dull it starts by getting harder to push the mill head. I all so hear the motor change sounds. When that happens i stop and put a new band.
I get new bands, and also resharpen and re set. I have not found anybody worth sending bands out to that can do a decent job, and I have tried, many times.
Did you say you changed 37 blades in a day? How long on average one blade lasts? I understand it depends on the wood species, width and other factors. But lets say for hardwood and pine no dirt. How many cuts can you make?
No, I use 37 degree blades, generally I can do at least a thousand bdft per band, sometimes as much as three thousand, bdft per band, but as you say, if I'm sawing dirty logs, I can dull a band in one cut.
@HobbyHardwoodAlabama thank you. 1000 bft = 50 cuts of 10ft long 2ft wide log. If it is one inch thickness, then 24 inch log takes about 20 cuts. So you change the blades every 2-3 logs. I am new to this, so after cutting 10 logs i was wondering why did my sawmill turned into a Jigsaw! Replacing the blade fixed the problem. :)
Robert and Martha I wanted to tell you ,how much me and Jean enjoyed meeting the crew at Hobby Hardwood including Chip. Keep up the good work at doing something you're proud of.
Does the Robert Milton Singing Band have originals on Spotify? I learned about the blade jump from you, many videos ago, but I never thought about changes to the rooster tail. Thanks, Robert! 😁
Where else can you learn this information? I haven't seen it anywheres. Decades of sawmilling or watching your channel. Thanks for teaching us and helping with that learning curve. No wonder so many sawmillers give up frustrated. Contempt prior to investigate will keep a man in everlasting ignorance. Ty much
Thanks! You are right, these are techniques that make us the highest grade hardwood producer in Alabama for 3 consecutive years. Real secrets from a real sawmill business, not a Spandex Sawmill.
I can't wait to get my hands on my mill and crank her up for the first time. I would walk out, throw a junk log on, a half dull band, and try to replicate everything you just went over. It's a lot easier for me to learn hands-on. Can't thank you enough, Robert! More priceless information from The Proffesor!
Thanks!
You certainly packed this video full of golden nuggets!
Thank you for that!!!
This might be a rookie question....would the effects of a dull blade be more significant on a mill with a less powerful engine? 14 hp vs 35hp?
Yes, a dull band is hard on the mill, and if you are pushing, it will be difficult.
The signs you point out are ones that I've always picked up on, but never consciencely verbalized or enumerated. With the 4 degree bands, strings are the biggest or first thing I notice, but the explosive entry goes along with that. I also notice if my band jumps at the end or at any point. When I start seeing strings on the exit side I know I'm getting some tearing versus clean cutting. Of course these are signs when band is slowly dulling at a normal rate versus a sudden problem like hitting a stone, or sand in bark etc. In those cases you often get sudden chatter and poor cutting, not smooth. Thanks Robert!
Thanks.
Not only a Professional sawer, getting to be a Professional TH-camr! Another great video Robert.
Thanks, I have a long way to go as a Tuber, but I never thought I'd get thos far...
good video and job thank you for every thing. take care, be safe and well.
You are welcome, and you too!
An average knucklehead such as myself would take many logs and a few years of milling, to learn all the details and telltales that Robert packs into one short video.
Get out there, mill for a day, get yourself settled in after supper with a "Milton Movie" and feel the lightbulb come on.
Thanks Professor for all the education and tradecraft reveals!
Thanks!
Damn it Robert get back to milling the walnut logs 😂 happy holidays
I thought people were getting bored with walnut, so I rotated to my other stuff! That's why I need comments, so I know how to mesh what people want to see vs what I need to cut up as a business. Thanks!
Another great bit of information, thanks.
You can definitely hear when the blade dips, it "sings" when it's cutting flat, and goes silent when it dips.
Hand pushing a smaller mill helps connect you more to the machine, making it easier to feel .
Thanks!
Robert, I’ve been watching your videos ever since I got my sawmill back in November last year and then trying different things that you’re teaching and you have helped me out tremendously specially about the speed and listening to the blade in the sound it makes and also the dumbness of a blade I just wanted to thank you and appreciate your videos Tremendously, you have a great and wonderful day. May the Lord bless you
Thanks! I appreciate it!
one of your best videos - understandable and good explanations. Thank you very much!
Thanks!
Thank you very much for the video
You are welcome
Robert, I want to thank you for these technical lessons you share. As a “new” sawyer with an LT35, I do sometimes feel I’m in the wrong class sort of speak. Like I’m sitting in the advanced class, having skipped the beginner. Lol. But I’m paying close attention. Please keep it up👍
Thanks! I will keep he coming as long as people keep watching!
When i was re watching i thought about the sound of the cant coming down on the mill deck with to much saw dust on them, I can hear that as well while sawing.
Knowing what these sounds mean are key!
Even with ear protection!
Thanks again for a great video sir!
You are right, the mill and cant are always talking!
For what its worth ,im retired military machinist if when you sharpen your blades make the gullet 1/4" deeper that will give your chip more room to escape and your blade will last longer , i tried to tell nathan from tn. but don't think he reads comments thanks from sweet hm AL.PS it works for me
Thanks for the advice, but we both use CBN fixed profile grinding systems, so there is no way to change the profile.
@@HobbyHardwoodAlabama Thank u for your reply .get you bigger diameter rock just a thought hv nice day
Thanks for all the info. I run a Norwood LM30 and it does a great job. I just love the process. I cut lumber to build stuff around my farm (sheds mostly) and for a little wood working projects I enjoy doing.
BTW I'm only about an hour or so away from you over here at Higdon AL. I hope to make it over there to see your operation some day.
Thanks!
From $6K to $73K that's the minimum range of profit return every week I thinks it's not a bad one for me, now I have enough to pay bills and take care of my family.
VENTURING into the trading world without the help of a profesionals, trading and expecting profit is like turning water into wine you would need a miracle.
Very engaging right from the beginning These are tough and frankly I appreciate how you discuss global finances in such a delicate way. Business and investment
Experted Ann Marie strunk was my hope during the 'bear summer' last year. I did so many mistakes but also learned so much from it, and of course from Maria strunk.
Just sold a property in Alaska and I'm thinking to put the cash in stocks, I know everyone is saying it's ripe but Is this a time to buy stocks? How long until a full recovery? How are other people in the same market raking in over $450k gains within months, I'm really just confused at this point.
The fact that I got to learn and earn from her program is everything to me think about it, it's a win-win for both ways.
Awesome, have watching since Christmas Day, as often as I can anyway. I’m moving backward in time. I just don’t want to start at the beginning, I have a bunch to learn. Should I go all the way back?
That's up to you, but every video I make, I try to put some knowledge into.
What kind of SFPM does the band run on your LT70? I'm trying to upgrade my old LT40 with more HP and would like to compare the blade speed with you're getting. With some added power I might be able to increase the speed if needed.
Very informative video as usual. Thanks
Thanks!
Very useful, thank you. Do you ever use carbide bands? What is your take on carbide bands?
Overpriced and they cut slower because they have a wider kerf. Good for very specialty species, but in general, not worth it. I have some new ones hanging up, I never use them.
Very informative! I have been getting the exit fibers in poplar... but still cutting flat. I'm going to watch out for your other clues. I have increase cut speed and have moved from "flour" to "corn meal" thanks to your previous video.
Awesome! Thank you!
Do one on sharpening blades
Sounds good.
When I first saw the subject line my brain told me duAl band challenge. I thought this is going to be interesting.
So I changed the title.....
Thanks Robert a great video explained a lot
Very welcome
Appreciate it Mr. Robert
Thanks!
I have a lt35 and just bought a woodland mills sharpener and setter. I can't seem to get my dull blades really sharp. I've sharpened a few that were nice and a few that didn't cut much at all. I've learned to deburr the blade, but can't seem to know when they're sharp. I can sharpen a chainsaw easily. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
I'll make a video, but basically how do you know they are sharp? I did mine for years and couldn't get a consisted grind. Zoom way up with your phone and look for any glinting at all on the tooth corners, which means the band is not sharp yet. Plus you need to make sure your hook angle is still correct, as sometimes the sharpener will push off. Then, make sure the set is correct.
Congratulations on hitting 18k subscribers
Awesome video & getting your point across.
You've help me a great deal.
I am wondering why you don't switch your control station position?
Was your supper 70 wired for the wireless controller?
Thanks again sir, Craig
Thanks! I like it where it is, I got used to it with my LT40, and Iike the boards going by me so I can inspect them as they as sawn.
Thanks for taking the time to educate us newer sawyers. Very informative.
Thanks
very informative , thank you
Glad it was helpful!
On my manual mill I can tell when the band is getting dull it starts by getting harder to push the mill head. I all so hear the motor change sounds. When that happens i stop and put a new band.
Sounds like a good plan! Thanks for commenting.
Thanks Robert
Thanks!
Do you resharpen your blades or do you send them out or do you only use new blades?
I get new bands, and also resharpen and re set. I have not found anybody worth sending bands out to that can do a decent job, and I have tried, many times.
Oh by the way i made my blade sharpener from harbor frieght chainsaw sharpener and use 1/4" rock on tha give the gullet little more width hv gd 1
I used to own a Cookes where I could do that by grinding a custom cam, but I reality, the Turbo 7 is a pretty good profile, with a very deep gullet.
Did you say you changed 37 blades in a day? How long on average one blade lasts? I understand it depends on the wood species, width and other factors. But lets say for hardwood and pine no dirt. How many cuts can you make?
No, I use 37 degree blades, generally I can do at least a thousand bdft per band, sometimes as much as three thousand, bdft per band, but as you say, if I'm sawing dirty logs, I can dull a band in one cut.
@HobbyHardwoodAlabama thank you.
1000 bft = 50 cuts of 10ft long 2ft wide log.
If it is one inch thickness, then 24 inch log takes about 20 cuts. So you change the blades every 2-3 logs.
I am new to this, so after cutting 10 logs i was wondering why did my sawmill turned into a Jigsaw!
Replacing the blade fixed the problem. :)
@HobbyHardwoodAlabama Thank you. I appreciate your videos and your humor and the information
Robert and Martha I wanted to tell you ,how much me and Jean enjoyed meeting the crew at Hobby Hardwood including Chip. Keep up the good work at doing something you're proud of.
Thanks!
Does the Robert Milton Singing Band have originals on Spotify?
I learned about the blade jump from you, many videos ago, but I never thought about changes to the rooster tail.
Thanks, Robert! 😁
My pleasure!