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i just purchased a Harvey bandsaw based upon your review. I'm looking forward to setting it up in my shop. I'll be sure to let you know how it works ;-) Thanks for the videos. Merry Christmas!
I like your energy, experience and contributions. Don't feel bad when you are jokes around with, people kind of see you as a standard and engagement does drive the channel Hi-5 (>'.')^
Quick question…I’m trying to make a jig that requires 1/4” plunge cuts… I’m new to woodworking and it feels like I’m going to break the bit off in my router. I’m trying to go slow. Also not sure what speed to have the router on…? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!
When I was in my 20's, we built my dad and mom a new house pretty much exactly that way - although we first built a sawmill and squared the logs on 3 sides 🙂 We cut exactly those dovetailed corners and just like you did we cut grooves in the top and bottom of each log (using a depth guide bolted to the end of our chainsaw bar and following a chalk line) then driving long strips of plywood into the upward facing groove and fitting the next log down onto those strips! My youngest brother now lives in that house.
I don’t think that I would try this just to make a box but it seems like an excellent exercise. In fact, anyone who teaches woodworking may want to use this for a final exam. It certainly is an exercise of patience, skill, and one’s ability to follow a precise plan. Good stuff!
I really enjoyed watching how you made this box. One of the things I truly appreciate about your channel is when you add the historical background to what you are doing. I look forward to whatever comes next .
In 2015 my wife and I commissioned a custom log home to be built using exactly this type of corner joints for the logs! The house is near Mammoth Lakes in CA. The logs are 12” x 8” and were milled in Boise ID then trucked down via flatbed trucks to the build site. It took a crane and 8 crew to stack the logs over 3 days! All fit incredibly tight. No chinking needed. Douglas fir was used. The home is at 6600ft elevation so the logs see a huge seasonal temperature difference over the seasons and they don’t even budge due to the joinery. Best $1M we ever spent! I can appreciate your box build!
WOW!!!!!! Amazing!! This takes an engineering mindset, concentration, ingenuity, skill, and patience!!!!!! The end results are beautiful, and mind boggling!!!! Love it!!!
James. Thank you very much for sharing this challenging piece with the rest of us. The edge grain splines are a perfect solution to a gift I am making. Thanks again!
Nice box, I really like your method! I built a double dovetail box using a different method about 25 years ago and it is still going strong with daily use.
The guys on Barnwood Builders would be delighted to see this! This is exactly the compound dovetail that they work with (and cut with chainsaws) every day!
Thank you for the explanation. A while back, I was looking at a log cabin and the light bulb came on! I noticed the joinery and was amazed. So when you started , I thought about the logs, but still had no idea how to do it. Very good explanation....although it will still take me a long time to accomplish the feat. How many times we see very old techniques, working better than the new "better" way.
When I saw it, that's what came to mind, log cabin. Well done. This is one of the best videos you've done. Keep it up. From one James to another, That is the best pine box ive ever seen!
Me too. Half-dovetail but added a bottom and made the panel joint invisible (never thought of that either). I've wondered how to do it. It's a lot easier with logs since they don't have to match up perfectly along the length. Only the dovetail mates up on a log.
Fantastic demo. Thanks for sharing, James! Watching the bandsaw segment, I can't help but think that ramp would be easier to use with a couple magswitches installed in the base.
Amazing conversation piece, and amazing instructional video:)! I hadn't seen your original video of making the box, I am more than glad that you resurrected it! I love when history of how things were made, like log cabins in oldie times:), are combined with new uses, or done with more modern tools and techniques. This video hit all those marks. Thank you!
@@StumpyNubs I'm assuming you cleaned everything up with a chisel between the bandsaw step and assembly? This looks like a fun challenge. I've marveled at locking log cabin joinery and never really thought I would have cause to use it, but the ideas in there now! Thank you!
Very impressive James. I’ll need to ponder whether or not I’ll try to make one, but fascinating nonetheless. Thanks for sharing how you made it, especially the precise measurements for various stock thicknesses.
Thanks for breaking this down. I have been thinking about that log cabin joinery for some time, wondering if i could adapt it as you did. I'm undecided if it's worth the time, but the techniques and jigs will definitely find a place in the shop
Superb!! Love it! I have to have a go at this. I've never seen this type of joint before. Can't see it being commercially viable but as an exercise and talking piece, definitely on my todo list now.
Before you shared the secret of ripping the side boards to form the "logs," I said to myself, "yeah, but those houses were made of logs not solid walls". And then you made logs. Brilliant!
Thanks for the cool video! Very neat box. I was sure you were going to show how you soaked the wood in water, then compressed the dovetails with clamps to assemble it, much like the "impossible nail" trick. I think your way was much easier!
You are looking at a joint that was used on log cabins. Conventional dovetails are cut to hold drawers together but only in one direction. This is a two way joint.
Yeah I need to bookmark this. One day I will have a woodworking workshop and I have so many ideas of beautiful things I want to make! This style of box is a serious one-up on a traditional dovetail drawer - it would be perfect for an heirloom desk, with little drawers at the back and down the sides for all sorts of stationery and related items. I wonder if you can make this with a blind dovetail at the front, or if that would be really a bit too complicated?
Hardly a practical joint for production work but a fun display of skill and craftsmanship. Maybe more impressive is how you are able to teach this in a video, James. Thanks!
This kind of joinery is called “Tiroler Schloss” (Tyrolean Lock) and has it’s origin in the alpine regions of Europe. In fact it’s more or less Austrian, not German. 😉 You can find some information and pictures in the german Woodworker-forum. Greetings from Austria! 🇦🇹
You are always doing something mind-blowing. Thank you. I started to skip through 'cause I'd never, truly, attempt something like this, but, damn, you just hel my attention the whole build. Thanks.
Great work Stumpy! I did not see you clean up the joints but presume that you did that. That is a phenomenally difficult joinery project and I applaud your skill and perseverance.
OK. I am impressed. After 45 years a s a professional woodworker, I can;t imagine actually making money on this joint but it is impresive that you got such a good job out of it.
You need to get in touch with Mark Bowe, star of Barnwood Builders. His team buys and sells log buildings. I've seen them freehand notches with a chainsaw
Very interesting study in geometry and physics. Thanks. Im still trying to master dovetails though. And i think that will take me the rest of my lifetime. I admire your efforts to understand.
I have seen these log cabins before, even worked a bit on a restoration, but missed the significance of the shapes of the cuts. Pretty damn cool, or more correctly: ausgezeichnet!
I saw a similar assembly made by soaking the joint tabs and compressing them for assembly. Once pressure was released, the wood returned to the original shape.
Very cool! But one thing I have learned is, no matter how original I think I am, it is really hard to come up with something new under the sun. One of those long ago German's may have given this a try too! Thanks!
As a scientist I have, on occasion, taken on a project because someone said it was impossible. This reminds me of that and also reminds me that you never learn anything if you don’t try.
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i just purchased a Harvey bandsaw based upon your review. I'm looking forward to setting it up in my shop. I'll be sure to let you know how it works ;-) Thanks for the videos. Merry Christmas!
I like your energy, experience and contributions. Don't feel bad when you are jokes around with, people kind of see you as a standard and engagement does drive the channel
Hi-5 (>'.')^
The craftsmanship is amazing. The spelling could use some work though: "indestructible", though who knows why.
@@stephenbrown8567 Gotta give him a break - he is a life long carpenter so we can just be glad he has all his digits (>'.')^
Quick question…I’m trying to make a jig that requires 1/4” plunge cuts… I’m new to woodworking and it feels like I’m going to break the bit off in my router. I’m trying to go slow. Also not sure what speed to have the router on…? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!
I have such a headache now. I'll need to watch this another dozen times, before I decide not to do this. Great video, James.
Lol
That’s funny.
Really? I only needed to watch it once to decide I'd never do this.😁
Subtitle: "How to make kindle wood with an incorrect dovetail - repeatedly"
When I was in my 20's, we built my dad and mom a new house pretty much exactly that way - although we first built a sawmill and squared the logs on 3 sides 🙂 We cut exactly those dovetailed corners and just like you did we cut grooves in the top and bottom of each log (using a depth guide bolted to the end of our chainsaw bar and following a chalk line) then driving long strips of plywood into the upward facing groove and fitting the next log down onto those strips! My youngest brother now lives in that house.
I don’t think that I would try this just to make a box but it seems like an excellent exercise. In fact, anyone who teaches woodworking may want to use this for a final exam. It certainly is an exercise of patience, skill, and one’s ability to follow a precise plan.
Good stuff!
I really enjoyed watching how you made this box. One of the things I truly appreciate about your channel is when you add the historical background to what you are doing. I look forward to whatever comes next .
I've never even seen anything like that before. Thanks for sharing this. I always learn something from your videos.
You, Sir, are a consummate presenter and teacher. This humble Octogenarian is inspired. Thank you.
Fascinating. I'm not woodworker and would never waste my time building something like this. But I admire the tenacity of this guy.
In 2015 my wife and I commissioned a custom log home to be built using exactly this type of corner joints for the logs! The house is near Mammoth Lakes in CA. The logs are 12” x 8” and were milled in Boise ID then trucked down via flatbed trucks to the build site. It took a crane and 8 crew to stack the logs over 3 days! All fit incredibly tight. No chinking needed. Douglas fir was used. The home is at 6600ft elevation so the logs see a huge seasonal temperature difference over the seasons and they don’t even budge due to the joinery. Best $1M we ever spent! I can appreciate your box build!
WOW!!!!!! Amazing!! This takes an engineering mindset, concentration, ingenuity, skill, and patience!!!!!! The end results are beautiful, and mind boggling!!!! Love it!!!
Interesting process. That bit about cabins is very cool!
Interesting joint. Keep the good stuff coming and GO WINGS!
James. Thank you very much for sharing this challenging piece with the rest of us. The edge grain splines are a perfect solution to a gift I am making. Thanks again!
What a great way to illustrate that construction method.
Nice box, I really like your method! I built a double dovetail box using a different method about 25 years ago and it is still going strong with daily use.
The guys on Barnwood Builders would be delighted to see this! This is exactly the compound dovetail that they work with (and cut with chainsaws) every day!
Cryptic meets surgical meets scientific woodwork! Impressive stuff James
Thank you for the explanation. A while back, I was looking at a log cabin and the light bulb came on! I noticed the joinery and was amazed. So when you started , I thought about the logs, but still had no idea how to do it. Very good explanation....although it will still take me a long time to accomplish the feat. How many times we see very old techniques, working better than the new "better" way.
Wow! This is very cool! I can’t wait to try this build. Thank you for sharing!
Looks so much fun to assemble at the end!
You are so clever in adapting this technique!
Fascinating concept and wonderful execution
When I saw it, that's what came to mind, log cabin. Well done. This is one of the best videos you've done. Keep it up. From one James to another, That is the best pine box ive ever seen!
Me too. Half-dovetail but added a bottom and made the panel joint invisible (never thought of that either).
I've wondered how to do it. It's a lot easier with logs since they don't have to match up perfectly along the length. Only the dovetail mates up on a log.
Thank you, James. As usual, great idea and its implementation. Take care of yourself
Lovely project, and really excellent demonstration. I really enjoy the bits of history you incorporate, as well. This is what TH-cam should be. 😊
"We choose to do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard."
“If you always choose the easy way, you will find life hard, Grasshopper”
JFK
Or I have a lot of time on my hands.
Fantastic demo. Thanks for sharing, James! Watching the bandsaw segment, I can't help but think that ramp would be easier to use with a couple magswitches installed in the base.
Amazing conversation piece, and amazing instructional video:)! I hadn't seen your original video of making the box, I am more than glad that you resurrected it! I love when history of how things were made, like log cabins in oldie times:), are combined with new uses, or done with more modern tools and techniques. This video hit all those marks. Thank you!
The putting together looks easier than I thought. It's the cutting of the dove tails I would fail at massively 😅
Why? It's just straight cuts with a bandsaw. You only have to follow a line for about 1/4-inch.
@StumpyNubs it's not the cuts, it's the flipping the pieces over on the ramp. I'm bound to go wrong.
@@StumpyNubs I'm assuming you cleaned everything up with a chisel between the bandsaw step and assembly? This looks like a fun challenge. I've marveled at locking log cabin joinery and never really thought I would have cause to use it, but the ideas in there now! Thank you!
Very impressive James. I’ll need to ponder whether or not I’ll try to make one, but fascinating nonetheless. Thanks for sharing how you made it, especially the precise measurements for various stock thicknesses.
Absolute insanity, and I love it
Thanks for breaking this down. I have been thinking about that log cabin joinery for some time, wondering if i could adapt it as you did. I'm undecided if it's worth the time, but the techniques and jigs will definitely find a place in the shop
Wow! Great design and execution!
that is the coolest box detail I've ever seen!
Now that there is one cool box. Nicely done SN. Thank you for sharing this with us.
Superb!! Love it! I have to have a go at this. I've never seen this type of joint before. Can't see it being commercially viable but as an exercise and talking piece, definitely on my todo list now.
Clever! Smart set up. That's what woodworking is.... critical thinking to solve issues.
Masterful, simply masterful!
Ok, now that is clever. Well done!
wow super workmanship!
I love it! There is a log Smokehouse here that belonged to my Grandad. It has the same joints. ❤
Before you shared the secret of ripping the side boards to form the "logs," I said to myself, "yeah, but those houses were made of logs not solid walls". And then you made logs. Brilliant!
This is beautiful, thanks for sharing! I will put it on my list to build.
Thanks for the cool video! Very neat box.
I was sure you were going to show how you soaked the wood in water, then compressed the dovetails with clamps to assemble it, much like the "impossible nail" trick. I think your way was much easier!
me 2 minutes in: "what the hell am I looking at?" 🧐
You are looking at a joint that was used on log cabins. Conventional dovetails are cut to hold drawers together but only in one direction. This is a two way joint.
Yeah I need to bookmark this. One day I will have a woodworking workshop and I have so many ideas of beautiful things I want to make! This style of box is a serious one-up on a traditional dovetail drawer - it would be perfect for an heirloom desk, with little drawers at the back and down the sides for all sorts of stationery and related items.
I wonder if you can make this with a blind dovetail at the front, or if that would be really a bit too complicated?
Love it. Great work, both in creating the box and sharing it with others. 👍
Love the creativity and the history lesson Stumpy!
What a great challenge, well done. Stay safe.
Hardly a practical joint for production work but a fun display of skill and craftsmanship. Maybe more impressive is how you are able to teach this in a video, James. Thanks!
Wow, you have some patience. Great job!!
This is a great video. I might try this. Thanks.
Imagine getting a truckload of those at cabin size (but perfectly manufactured) and putting a super strong cabin together in a day.
both fence and the box are 1st class!
This kind of joinery is called “Tiroler Schloss” (Tyrolean Lock) and has it’s origin in the alpine regions of Europe. In fact it’s more or less Austrian, not German. 😉 You can find some information and pictures in the german Woodworker-forum. Greetings from Austria! 🇦🇹
magic! great video. thank you.
Brilliant, James. Now for all the drawers in a fitted kitchen lol
VERY clever, and it makes sense why it worked well for building cabins
You are always doing something mind-blowing. Thank you. I started to skip through 'cause I'd never, truly, attempt something like this, but, damn, you just hel my attention the whole build. Thanks.
Such a great technique! I love this, thank you Stumpy Nubs 👍🏽
Great video Stumpy. Made me smile.😊
Great job. I like it. Thank you 😊
Very impressive James! And you make it look easy 😂😂
Stumpy, that is so "flippin cool"!! Thank you for sharing.
That's a really nice box! Awesome video.
Great work Stumpy! I did not see you clean up the joints but presume that you did that. That is a phenomenally difficult joinery project and I applaud your skill and perseverance.
BRILLIANT
Great bit of history and skill.👍👍
That is very cool. I think I'll try to make one someday. Thanks for sharing.
That’s so cool! Your videos are the best! Thanks for sharing this challenging build and I definitely want to try this sometime.
Awesome build, James! Great looking box! 😃
Thanks for all the tips!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Very clever. I don’t like math lol but I appreciate when someone uses it well.
mind blown. Fun new party trick to try. Thanks James.
Has it really been seven years since I first saw this? Still nice.
Thanks! I didn't know anything about it!
Loved it.
OK. I am impressed. After 45 years a s a professional woodworker, I can;t imagine actually making money on this joint but it is impresive that you got such a good job out of it.
Awesome work
You need to get in touch with Mark Bowe, star of Barnwood Builders. His team buys and sells log buildings. I've seen them freehand notches with a chainsaw
Very interesting study in geometry and physics. Thanks. Im still trying to master dovetails though. And i think that will take me the rest of my lifetime. I admire your efforts to understand.
I have seen these log cabins before, even worked a bit on a restoration, but missed the significance of the shapes of the cuts. Pretty damn cool, or more correctly: ausgezeichnet!
Wow!!! Log Cabin Box!!!
@3:30 - "The strips have to be carefully calculated in their thickness, their width, their length, and their angles..."
That looks awesome. You must have a lot of patience.
Fantastic lesson on joint strength. And I love that Bow fence extention. Thanks.
The quintessential definition of overkill
This is awesome
AAAAAaargh ! Mommy, Make the bad man stop, he's making my brain hurt.
Love the design..
Slick idea! Perfect for pallet wood boxes….
as a lazy lazy man I knew I would never attempt this, didn't even finish watching, you're a better woodworker than I....
I saw a similar assembly made by soaking the joint tabs and compressing them for assembly. Once pressure was released, the wood returned to the original shape.
I thought I had seen this done before but can't remember if it was a box or just a demonstration of water manipulation of wood.
Intriguing !
Very cool! But one thing I have learned is, no matter how original I think I am, it is really hard to come up with something new under the sun. One of those long ago German's may have given this a try too! Thanks!
Watched the video, love it, don't understand it! Nice box.
Sheer genius!!
Joinery sorcery!
As a scientist I have, on occasion, taken on a project because someone said it was impossible. This reminds me of that and also reminds me that you never learn anything if you don’t try.
yep,
Very clever!
Awesome demo!
Great vid. The history is neat. I can see a use for this in high use drawers. For example a silverware drawer.