I believe the main Mouse vocals are her live, the rest is prerecorded. Much like she does live on stream. She isn’t up to dancing yet, but is now able to walk slowly. Connor introduced, I’m not sure if he did the Bubi speaking part live or whether that was prerecorded and added to his song vocals - I’d presume the latter. It is all of Vshojo lineup in the background including Gunrun. The song has the Gremlins song under it, apparently it was Mouse’s request to build a song based on it.
The moment when they get missing at the main stage (your video 10:28) they were actually flying from one screen to another. The camera man was supposed to record the screens that they were on, but there were some problems with communication or something and they did record only the main stage. Thats why it looks so empty. Its actually exactly the thing you spoke about before, they did interact with the watchers this way. Mousey herself was sad, that it ended this way and they were not able to get recordings of the side screens.
If you haven't had a chance to react to her singing in her 'opera' trained voice you really should. Find her most recent rendition of "when you look at me" and perhaps some of her covers of Shakira. This here is her aplying her training to her 'speaking voice' as good as it is, her singing/operatic voice will blow you away (well it did me).
Yes!!!! I was waiting for your reaction!!! LESGOOOO!!!!!! P.S. And this is not live. It was prerecorded. And ofcourse dance is performed by someone else, not Mousey. She isn't strong enough to dance =) Yet. She is getting there. About side screens on this stage. Mousey said they used both side screens for this performance constantly. But camera didn't show it =(( I think a moment is when there is no Mousey or Bubi on central screen. Vtubers in the cages at the back is Vshojo talents. Mousey is in this talent group. And yes there is Froot and Henya you mentioned =)
I feel like this is the first time the team has shown a Vtuber show, so they got a little "lost", but overall they did things well. You can see the difference when the team trains to capture everything at the right angle and using their own cameras for that. Which was not the case at this event. On a scale of 0 to 10, I would give it a 7.5.
I'm glad you reacted to this. I wish we could've gotten the best version with Ironmouse and Bubi jumping around on the side screens, but the cameras didn't catch it. If you want to see something fun from Ironmouse. A fan did a couple of compilations where she singing the same song on various streams, spliced together. Its on the channel Ironmousesings888 and they are generally referred to as Ironmouse Choir.
The background was all the other Vshojo members and what looked like a joke model of their ceo Gunrun. Also to your point for the screens the part where its just a empty stage they were on the other screens the camera man just didnt catch it.
@@johnoden5932 Correct, there was some discussion on Reddit about who that character was. Folks quickly enough realized that both Gunrun and Panini appeared in the background.
There seem to be multiple cameras, so I wonder if there were cameras on the other screens, but for some reason they didn’t switch to those cameras? Apparently they rehearsed it with the cameras before and it went fine… But yeah, I expect that’s two possibilities… The cameraman or the person switching between cameras.
Regarding the “Is it live/is it recorded” question, I refer you to a quote from a blink-and-you-missed-it line from HBO’s Westworld: “If you can’t tell, does it matter?”
Mouse said the cameraman forgot to zoom out when the stage was empty. They overflowed onto the big screens on the sides of the Main Screen, but they didn't get in the shot(.
Loved seeing your reaction. Just FYI during the portion where the center stage was just background Mousey and BUBI were showing on other screens across the theater. A last minute change was made and the cameras didn't show those parts of the performance.
The thing to take note is that while Ironmouse was the one singing it was someone else doing the dancing with her model which makes sense when you consider her physical condition.
Some vtubers have performed live to a crowd, but my guess is at least this the dancing isn't live, because Ironmouse until a year+ ago was bedridden for years, maybe over a decade. So while she has improved a lot with her singing and walking, she hasn't left her house yet, I think her mobility is still limited.
as in her others concerts and live events, ironmouse record the songs in is home and a mocap studio capture the dances and do extra animations to the models to match the audio records ( per example moving the mouth to lip sinc to what she say) i canot remember the studio name rigth now, but they also did the 3d concert at beggining of the year and the music video for time to feast
When they disappeared off screen they were appearing on the side screens, ironmouse mentioned on her live stream that she was sad that they didn't catch the part where they where switching screens, the only hint that you get is the pink magic in the background before mouse reappears on the main screen, and yeah the vshojo gang was in the background, yes that was froot lol. Enjoyed the video!! Keep it up! 💜 Hope you react to Nerissa Ravencroft Love Me, Love Me, Love Me (English version of Ashite, Ashite, Ashite by ado)
The middle part of the song where you didn't see her. She said she was dancing on the side screens and changing sides, but no one gave the camera man the memo :D
Some of the concerts by Hololive and some of the solo concerts by their individual talents are actually performed live, with the talent backstage wearing motion capture stuff, and able to see and hear the crowd on monitors, which lets them do some actual crowd interaction. In Mouse's case, it would be very difficult, not only due to her still slowly getting back into physical shape, but also because she can't leave her room, so she'd have to broadcast from wherever she lives, and would basically have to set up a motion capture studio in her house. The latter is possible, another vtuber named Dooby has one, but it'd probably take a lot of money and time and renovation, and even then there'd still be delay/latency since she's somewhere in the Eastern time zone and the streamer awards are held in LA
Actually, now it's can't leave her house. She's improved to the point where she can and does walk around her house, which was refurbished specifically for her. She is no longer confined to her room, although she still streams from there.
@@catwhowalksbyhimself that's why I only said she was still getting back into shape. Out of bed, but only 5 minutes of treadmill at a time is still probably not ready to do choreographed dance routines
@@daverboy No, but she's not confined to her room as you indicated either. She can and does move around her house. She definitely isn't close to dancing, but is not stuck in just her own room.
The guy who anounced Ironmouse in the begining is Connor Mouse Best friend he also does the voice ob Bubi ( Belzebub ) the guy who interroupts Mous and sings/raps in Cry for me
That was Ironmouse's friend and co-worker, Henya the Genius on those ballistics videos. Being from Japan she is just discovering the American fascination with guns. One of the videos is all about how guns match up with the adamantium skeleton and healing factor of the X-Men's Wolverine. You were 100% right n Froot, the rest were their VShojo friends/co-workers and their boss.
Fun Reaction to watch! I’m sure there were many comments that mentioned this but yes that was indeed Henya and Froot up on stage as dancers. They along with Mouse and all others who danced are members of VShojo Much Love ❤️
so if i recall right , the songs where prerecorded but in a raw way to basically be semi live , since mouse is not yet strong enough to move like her dancer did , im fairly certain vtubers who do full 3d concerts have a behind the scenes sound stage with mocap / sing live/ have interactions with the audiance live , but for mouses case they performed an illusion of semi live
I loved seeing your reaction to "Mind Exploding". I've seen several reactions to this show. (Because many who don't know Vtubers have seen it and I like to see their reactions) and yours WAS THE MOST PERFECT! (seeing you making the connections of everything in milliseconds... AHAHAHAH) About the microphone, the first person who started using it was an Indonesian Indian Vtuber. And she actually records the movements while singing too (sometimes she used it in the presentation, sometimes not). And she kept (getting in the way) fixing it... and it gave an air of being alive. So some are doing the same thing. (small details give the air of being alive).
Have you seen any videos regarding Vocaloid concerts with Hasume Miku? Its the same hologram/screen tech that mouse was using. Mouse's model movements were pre-recorded with someone else likely using a mocave suit for the capture points. In a post show event, Mouse talked about how at rehearsal things went one way but at show time some things were changed last minute. Many of these decisions didn't make sense to her.
Have you seen the Ironmouse choir clips, 9 separate times she has sung the same song, but all played together, and they are so good, do yourself a favour and check them out.
Hi, just found your channel, and am enjoying the chill vibes. I don't know if you ever heard this one yet, but based on what I've seen on the channel I bet you would love Nightwish. I would advise starting with Ghost Love Score live at Wachen 2013 (probably the most reacted to song on TH-cam). Do be aware, you might get a massive influx of Nightwish fans overrunning your channel. Also a very talented female vocalist that does so many different amazing things with her voice and a very tight band making symphonic metal.
Side note. Mouse was probably live from her home. She cannot (YET!) go out in public. She has a gentic immune deficieny that went from weak immune system to practically none as she turned 18.
If you wanna see really cool hologram style performances, I'd recommend watching a Hatsune Miku performance. Which just in case you've never heard of her, while she has a provided voice she isn't a real person just character. However as long you buy a license anyone can make a song using the software. It's super cool and people make some really cool songs. They put on idol level performances so I'd recommend checking it out.
if you like this, I highly recommend checking out trickywi or sinder, who make some insane songs, as well as the song my name by boss rush, their music group. pure fire
I think it could potentially be live, but I expect the best option for them would be to pre-record… The physical performance likely isn’t her because she can barely walk around due to the effects of her condition, so I highly doubt she’s dancing about… She could be singing live, but that could be fraught with issues for a live show… I expect they recorded new audio and then fit visuals to it or whatever… I do think some VTuber concerts are live though, because I’m pretty sure I’ve heard of the people going to the venue to perform, even though they aren’t directly out on stage… I’m not sure of the exact logistics…
Time to peel back the curtain. This is gonna be a long read, I apologize in advance. This particular show is fully pre-recorded. Ironmouse has mobility issues and so she is unable to do any of the choreography herself. This was done in a mocap studio by professionals, which then that data was input into the model overlay. However there are other concerts out there. The Breaking Dimensions Hololive concert in New York City this year was fully live and not pre-recorded. They actually flew the talents to New York, set up a mocap studio in a nearby building, and live cameras to the audience so everyone could see and hear, and each performer did their set live, broadcast to the theater. Watch the Hakos Baelz performance of her song "Gekirin", or the Hololive Advent "Rebellion" to see what it is like when you have a 3D Vtuber concert with all the fixins.
This visual performance was really well done, but want to see something crazy with this style, look up Hatsune Miku. Made animated performer concerts big. This though was crazy how well they did it, and I love it.
At this point 10:12 in those when she vanishes after going big there are side screens before she appears back on main stage that were not shown in the stream or any recordings. Ironmouse hoped to get those recordings for the video she posted on her channel, but did not have them sadly. She said added more to the show.
I believe the main Mouse vocals are her live, the rest is prerecorded. Much like she does live on stream. She isn’t up to dancing yet, but is now able to walk slowly. Connor introduced, I’m not sure if he did the Bubi speaking part live or whether that was prerecorded and added to his song vocals - I’d presume the latter. It is all of Vshojo lineup in the background including Gunrun. The song has the Gremlins song under it, apparently it was Mouse’s request to build a song based on it.
The moment when they get missing at the main stage (your video 10:28) they were actually flying from one screen to another. The camera man was supposed to record the screens that they were on, but there were some problems with communication or something and they did record only the main stage. Thats why it looks so empty. Its actually exactly the thing you spoke about before, they did interact with the watchers this way. Mousey herself was sad, that it ended this way and they were not able to get recordings of the side screens.
I love how he recognizes Henya from Kentucky ballistics
If you haven't had a chance to react to her singing in her 'opera' trained voice you really should. Find her most recent rendition of "when you look at me" and perhaps some of her covers of Shakira. This here is her aplying her training to her 'speaking voice' as good as it is, her singing/operatic voice will blow you away (well it did me).
Yes!!!! I was waiting for your reaction!!! LESGOOOO!!!!!!
P.S. And this is not live. It was prerecorded. And ofcourse dance is performed by someone else, not Mousey. She isn't strong enough to dance =) Yet. She is getting there.
About side screens on this stage. Mousey said they used both side screens for this performance constantly. But camera didn't show it =(( I think a moment is when there is no Mousey or Bubi on central screen.
Vtubers in the cages at the back is Vshojo talents. Mousey is in this talent group. And yes there is Froot and Henya you mentioned =)
I feel like this is the first time the team has shown a Vtuber show, so they got a little "lost", but overall they did things well. You can see the difference when the team trains to capture everything at the right angle and using their own cameras for that. Which was not the case at this event. On a scale of 0 to 10, I would give it a 7.5.
"Yet" is the best wod in there. The rest cool as well.
I'm glad you reacted to this. I wish we could've gotten the best version with Ironmouse and Bubi jumping around on the side screens, but the cameras didn't catch it.
If you want to see something fun from Ironmouse. A fan did a couple of compilations where she singing the same song on various streams, spliced together. Its on the channel Ironmousesings888 and they are generally referred to as Ironmouse Choir.
The background was all the other Vshojo members and what looked like a joke model of their ceo Gunrun. Also to your point for the screens the part where its just a empty stage they were on the other screens the camera man just didnt catch it.
@@johnoden5932 Correct, there was some discussion on Reddit about who that character was. Folks quickly enough realized that both Gunrun and Panini appeared in the background.
There seem to be multiple cameras, so I wonder if there were cameras on the other screens, but for some reason they didn’t switch to those cameras? Apparently they rehearsed it with the cameras before and it went fine… But yeah, I expect that’s two possibilities… The cameraman or the person switching between cameras.
Regarding the “Is it live/is it recorded” question, I refer you to a quote from a blink-and-you-missed-it line from HBO’s Westworld: “If you can’t tell, does it matter?”
Mouse said the cameraman forgot to zoom out when the stage was empty. They overflowed onto the big screens on the sides of the Main Screen, but they didn't get in the shot(.
Loved seeing your reaction. Just FYI during the portion where the center stage was just background Mousey and BUBI were showing on other screens across the theater. A last minute change was made and the cameras didn't show those parts of the performance.
The thing to take note is that while Ironmouse was the one singing it was someone else doing the dancing with her model which makes sense when you consider her physical condition.
Some vtubers have performed live to a crowd, but my guess is at least this the dancing isn't live, because Ironmouse until a year+ ago was bedridden for years, maybe over a decade.
So while she has improved a lot with her singing and walking, she hasn't left her house yet, I think her mobility is still limited.
as in her others concerts and live events, ironmouse record the songs in is home and a mocap studio capture the dances and do extra animations to the models to match the audio records ( per example moving the mouth to lip sinc to what she say) i canot remember the studio name rigth now, but they also did the 3d concert at beggining of the year and the music video for time to feast
When they disappeared off screen they were appearing on the side screens, ironmouse mentioned on her live stream that she was sad that they didn't catch the part where they where switching screens, the only hint that you get is the pink magic in the background before mouse reappears on the main screen, and yeah the vshojo gang was in the background, yes that was froot lol. Enjoyed the video!! Keep it up! 💜 Hope you react to Nerissa Ravencroft Love Me, Love Me, Love Me (English version of Ashite, Ashite, Ashite by ado)
Thank you. Thank you for being an IRL streamer who's not a dick to vtubers.
The middle part of the song where you didn't see her. She said she was dancing on the side screens and changing sides, but no one gave the camera man the memo :D
Some of the concerts by Hololive and some of the solo concerts by their individual talents are actually performed live, with the talent backstage wearing motion capture stuff, and able to see and hear the crowd on monitors, which lets them do some actual crowd interaction. In Mouse's case, it would be very difficult, not only due to her still slowly getting back into physical shape, but also because she can't leave her room, so she'd have to broadcast from wherever she lives, and would basically have to set up a motion capture studio in her house. The latter is possible, another vtuber named Dooby has one, but it'd probably take a lot of money and time and renovation, and even then there'd still be delay/latency since she's somewhere in the Eastern time zone and the streamer awards are held in LA
Actually, now it's can't leave her house. She's improved to the point where she can and does walk around her house, which was refurbished specifically for her. She is no longer confined to her room, although she still streams from there.
@@catwhowalksbyhimself that's why I only said she was still getting back into shape. Out of bed, but only 5 minutes of treadmill at a time is still probably not ready to do choreographed dance routines
@@daverboy No, but she's not confined to her room as you indicated either. She can and does move around her house. She definitely isn't close to dancing, but is not stuck in just her own room.
The guy who anounced Ironmouse in the begining is Connor Mouse Best friend he also does the voice ob Bubi ( Belzebub ) the guy who interroupts Mous and sings/raps in Cry for me
That was Ironmouse's friend and co-worker, Henya the Genius on those ballistics videos. Being from Japan she is just discovering the American fascination with guns. One of the videos is all about how guns match up with the adamantium skeleton and healing factor of the X-Men's Wolverine. You were 100% right n Froot, the rest were their VShojo friends/co-workers and their boss.
Fun Reaction to watch! I’m sure there were many comments that mentioned this but yes that was indeed Henya and Froot up on stage as dancers.
They along with Mouse and all others who danced are members of VShojo
Much Love ❤️
If only Ironmouse could go to these things IRL.
so if i recall right , the songs where prerecorded but in a raw way to basically be semi live , since mouse is not yet strong enough to move like her dancer did , im fairly certain vtubers who do full 3d concerts have a behind the scenes sound stage with mocap / sing live/ have interactions with the audiance live , but for mouses case they performed an illusion of semi live
I loved seeing your reaction to "Mind Exploding". I've seen several reactions to this show. (Because many who don't know Vtubers have seen it and I like to see their reactions) and yours WAS THE MOST PERFECT! (seeing you making the connections of everything in milliseconds... AHAHAHAH)
About the microphone, the first person who started using it was an Indonesian Indian Vtuber. And she actually records the movements while singing too (sometimes she used it in the presentation, sometimes not). And she kept (getting in the way) fixing it... and it gave an air of being alive. So some are doing the same thing. (small details give the air of being alive).
i think this performance was semi live
Have you seen any videos regarding Vocaloid concerts with Hasume Miku? Its the same hologram/screen tech that mouse was using.
Mouse's model movements were pre-recorded with someone else likely using a mocave suit for the capture points.
In a post show event, Mouse talked about how at rehearsal things went one way but at show time some things were changed last minute. Many of these decisions didn't make sense to her.
Have you seen the Ironmouse choir clips, 9 separate times she has sung the same song, but all played together, and they are so good, do yourself a favour and check them out.
Hi, just found your channel, and am enjoying the chill vibes. I don't know if you ever heard this one yet, but based on what I've seen on the channel I bet you would love Nightwish. I would advise starting with Ghost Love Score live at Wachen 2013 (probably the most reacted to song on TH-cam). Do be aware, you might get a massive influx of Nightwish fans overrunning your channel. Also a very talented female vocalist that does so many different amazing things with her voice and a very tight band making symphonic metal.
yes Vshojo Girl are in the background
The dance is performed by someone else since she isn't mobile enough for it, the vocals are not actually live, it's pre-recorded!
Side note. Mouse was probably live from her home. She cannot (YET!) go out in public. She has a gentic immune deficieny that went from weak immune system to practically none as she turned 18.
If you wanna see really cool hologram style performances, I'd recommend watching a Hatsune Miku performance. Which just in case you've never heard of her, while she has a provided voice she isn't a real person just character. However as long you buy a license anyone can make a song using the software. It's super cool and people make some really cool songs. They put on idol level performances so I'd recommend checking it out.
if you like this, I highly recommend checking out trickywi or sinder, who make some insane songs, as well as the song my name by boss rush, their music group. pure fire
I think it could potentially be live, but I expect the best option for them would be to pre-record… The physical performance likely isn’t her because she can barely walk around due to the effects of her condition, so I highly doubt she’s dancing about… She could be singing live, but that could be fraught with issues for a live show… I expect they recorded new audio and then fit visuals to it or whatever… I do think some VTuber concerts are live though, because I’m pretty sure I’ve heard of the people going to the venue to perform, even though they aren’t directly out on stage… I’m not sure of the exact logistics…
Time to peel back the curtain. This is gonna be a long read, I apologize in advance.
This particular show is fully pre-recorded. Ironmouse has mobility issues and so she is unable to do any of the choreography herself. This was done in a mocap studio by professionals, which then that data was input into the model overlay.
However there are other concerts out there. The Breaking Dimensions Hololive concert in New York City this year was fully live and not pre-recorded. They actually flew the talents to New York, set up a mocap studio in a nearby building, and live cameras to the audience so everyone could see and hear, and each performer did their set live, broadcast to the theater. Watch the Hakos Baelz performance of her song "Gekirin", or the Hololive Advent "Rebellion" to see what it is like when you have a 3D Vtuber concert with all the fixins.
This visual performance was really well done, but want to see something crazy with this style, look up Hatsune Miku. Made animated performer concerts big. This though was crazy how well they did it, and I love it.
At this point 10:12 in those when she vanishes after going big there are side screens before she appears back on main stage that were not shown in the stream or any recordings. Ironmouse hoped to get those recordings for the video she posted on her channel, but did not have them sadly. She said added more to the show.
Yes, that was froot
What the everliving feck is this??
TH-cam
You dont think you can have a live stage craft for vtuber? Maybe watch some hololive live concert. Then you unterstand that its the same