@@knyteshade6265 Kiri: coo coo, ill stab a mother fucker M9: Okay we did not teach her that language Jester and Nott: _[looks at each other nervously]_
@@cadenmcclain9608 thanks, mate! that makes me feel a lot better, she rarely mentions in in game and I’m so far behind I can’t watch the ancillary shows yet.
One of the low key impressive things in this episode is how Matt continued his normal dm tasks but still managed to accurately recall who said what so he could mimic it as Kiri the entire time.
@@meph2473 He's also mentioned in his DM Tips series that he uses a check mark system when they do something either very in-character or meta-gamey to add or subtract essentially social exp. It seems this campaign is more milestone instead of exp, but he may be also notating those things
People can do that by improving their memory recall skills, by learning a couple new things daily, and typically reading books is good food for thought. 😆😋 Seriously though, Matt writes the campaign, he's written books, and he's read thousands more. And that's probably not all of the factors contributing to his impressive recall skills. My point is---and really---I think you guys knew this, but Matt is incredible at this DM/GM thing. I'd be really impressed if he could recall exact damage for almost every encounter, but there are limits to being human. Most DMs can't remember simple names lmao I'm on my third watch through of the entire series and there's still new stuff surprising me. It's a lot.
@@KitKatWiffleBallBat he has been doing this for years, and he's been an actor for more years. So I'm not too surprised at his skill, but it is still impressive
HEY NEW WATCHERS There are SPOILERS for much later in the campaign littering the comments, don't read them unless you're willing to get spoiled for MUCH LATER EPISODES
HEY, there might be some SPOILERS under the thing 1:30 Critical Role finally gets an anime intro (Kamil and Kevin, karekareo on Twitter) 3:30 ONE MORE TIME (k on Patreon, Ki Frame on TH-cam) 9:50 Episode Starts 14:55 The ninth appears 17:55 Fjord’s daughter 19:15 What kind of bowl? 25:30 An hour is a long time 29:50 Vebron is into the reverse Trogdor 31:55 The Might Nein release form (fanart?) 35:40 Fjord’s dad joke 39:20 Wrecking Caleb 41:55 The arcane knowledge of pronunciation 43:20 Caleb makes a joke 50:15 That’s Dr. Creepypervert to you 1:04:20 Classic Salty Pete maneuver 1:26:15 This is how Travis holds children 1:38:50 Choosing the right corpse 1:41:25 “Hey dead person…” 1:45:15 OH GOD, NOW WE’RE FIGHTING 1:53:45 40 feet trolls deep 1:57:50 Make a regret save 2:06:05 HDYWT Save The Day 2:09:10 Sam’s devastating jokes 2:17:20 “We’ll be idiots if we want to” 2:22:40 Break Starts and ends 2:23:50 Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal 2:25:30 Sam roasts Caleb 2:35:20 Nott Bren 2:38:00 Tugging that branch 2:53:30 Visual aid 2:59:15 Somehow the only Thor: Ragnorock reference 3:03:00 Battle Begins 3:20:00 Enlarged Beau is best Beau 3:24:45 The Snitch attempts to flee Matt 3:39:35 HDYWTDT 4:04:00 Bowl games 4:14:15 The story hooks are unleashed Between Twitch and TH-cam, live viewership of this episode peaked around 55,000 people. The in-game start day for the episode was the 8th of Fessuran 835. Sam’s flask says “The Bagel Knows” The Stream of Many Eyes was great for those who were able to catch it live. The games should be going up on the Dungeons and Dragons TH-cam page in the next few days, so watch for it. I really loved Matt’s Force Grey game. Any moments I missed? Feel free to post them here. Is it Thursday yet?
@@crytlmeen it took me like a month and half to watch c1. I'm looking forward to being caught up, but then I realized I can't watch live because of timing. So I'm just marching towards a game of waiting, not sure if I should be excited or bummed haha.
Came back to catch up on new episodes and thought I'd check out the comments for this episode, glad to see Bowlgate lives on. XD Almost reminds me how much I miss playing Cali. :(
It would be really cool though if you turned out to have ill intents concerning the bowl. That would have been awesome! I wish guests would betray them sometimes. They need to be a little more cautious as a group
Actually, on talks machina it's revealed that he encouraged everyone to watch that part of the episode later that week, so all the players know what happened in his backstory, only the characters don't know the info.
@@nite012 LMFAO it makes sense why travis and marisha highfived this episode when beau asked caleb to say fire one more time and kiri kept repeating the word over and over
@@nite012 That's... actually disappointing. What benefit is there of them knowing if their characters don't? None, except for metagaming. Why agree to clear the table to just backtrack on it later? Does he also encourage them all to watch their solo encounters with him?
@@Ailieorz i think it was only for caleb's backstory. liam said in talks that it'll be quite redundant to relay the entire story in-game to the other characters (esp if it'll happen with one or two characters at a time again) and would disrupt the flow of the game. that's why he encouraged the others to watch it. he also kinda regretted not seeing the other cast members' reactions at the table but was grateful that matt agreed with the experiment.
@@katieroberts7012 I am happy that where I live, with legal prostitution, if there is any violence the violent party gets arrested, and not the sex worker. sad thing is a lot od brothels closed down over the pandemic, but there will be new ones . i sound like I go to brothels huh... don't have the money for it.
They uploaded the Project Alpha version. The G&S pay site that shut down shortly after the split. The HP trackers are only available only available on the live streams in 2019
@@krisbarski4226 They didn't really do a good job of it though XD The numbers were wrong almost all the time, and the weird notifications and comments on the side were just hilariously weird sometimes. Cool concept, but execution was not so great. Obviously understand that it's hard to know how much they gained from short rest and stuff, they don't exactly state that shit out loud.
Matt about Mark: "He is like my brother from another mother". Me: "He is probably exaggerating because the guy is also a DM. They may be just good friends." Mark describing a Fireball: "this green flame magic COALESCES" Me: "Definitely his brother from another mother!"
I believe the actual quote was "Brother from another Motherland", your point is still valid, not trying to say anything other, just felt an urge to clarify.
Mark's Levitate clutch attempt at 2:06:10 is so smart. I love how excited Matt gets at it. Like an old master getting surprised by some young person's new trick. d&d is so cool
@@deathbykonami5487 Yeah, Marisha does become Beau, to the point that there are a few people who can't tell that the dumb stuff Beau does is not Marisha's own personality
@@katieroberts7012 yes, that's probably true. I still don't get why she decided for Beau to be a character like this. I was close to discountinuing watching this not only once because of Beau. And I'm not even an inch through yet :D
@@xadielplasencia3674 im guessing the slur used in the late 1900s targeted towards people with autism also, im pretty sure youtube does not delete comments. ive seen plenty with all the profanities. I wont use this particular one since i have a good friend with autism and he said its very offensive and i dont feel comfortable typing it out even here
Caleb was absolutely right to be cautious with this, but I was disappointed he didn't figured out to use the Mage Judge on this! Before they started a quarrel I was already cringing they are still not getting it. And as their silly fight got worse in words I was just sitting with heavy facepalm, cringing, saying "Wow, Caleb, Mr Wizard with 20 INT can't add 2 with 2 to make 4" :( First time I was disappointed with Caleb even that he was totally right to be cautious.
@@nightwalker174 I get the feeling they will want to finish Vox Machina first, but it would be cool if they alternated year to year. Like one year is a new season of VM, and next year is another season for M9
@@stingerjohnny9951 Meh, would be hard to maintain viewership, having to wait for a whole season of some other storyline. The next VM cycle is Chroma Conclave, and then the Vecna arc. They'll catch up soon enough. I hope they use a version of this cartoon for the opening credits when they do M9
@@eyflfla fair points, and I’m aware I’m looking at this from the bias of one who knows both stories, just thought it would be a cool concept. I can’t wait for some of the later VM story shit to come along?
Who ever is typing up the little notes that show up is killing it this episode. “Fjord’s HP: there isn’t any” and “Magnets: how do they work?” Killed me
Yeah, I gotta agree with some of the other comments; I feel like Caleb being apprehensive in returning this Godly item to a complete stranger was the right thing to do. Beau and Jester flaming him left me a bit salty.
Also a testament to their friendship, because I think Sam just panicked and used the first letters of Veth's last name (a couple episodes back he gave Veth as a fake name for Nott too) but because they're so close they come up with similar things like for names
@@garrettdaugherty9082 I mean come on, it's totally Travis' responsibility to remember the spell he held literally one minute ago. When the monsters attacked Fjord he didn't even react like "But wait I was holding my Eldritch Blast" or something. Matt already has enough on his plate as it is.
Why are people acting so agressively to Caleb? Checking that an absolute stranger with a very strong desire for a very powerful object is to be trusted sounds exactly the right thing to do. He didn't even word it badly saying that he hopes she is telling the truth he just wants to check. Didn't understand that at all
I was thinking the same thing. Beau is giving him shit while she doesn't even understand what could have happened if Cali DID have evil intentions. I didn't expect a 3rd level Dispel Magic to work on it though haha.
She says as she literally wrestles control of the bowl away from him. One of Marisha's most annoying nights in a long time. Her freaking out at Matt for not letting her use her bonus action unarmed attack to fling a fishman corpse into a ball of total darkness as a ranged attack was particularly bewildering.
I love how you can tell what NPC Matt is playing simply by the mannerisms he has like when he switches to Kiri he starts looking around jerkily and bobbing his head before he even says anything
Cali was so amazing. Her standing up for Caleb and after he walked away giving the scroll to Nott to give it to Caleb later and not going into Caleb's personal space.
Darkvision is more of a magical thing- being able to see with no light. Cats can see well with low light conditions just not absolute darkness, which is what darkvision does
1:30 Critical Role anime intro 3:30 ONE MORE TIME 9:50 Episode Starts 14:55 The ninth appears 17:55 Fjord’s daughter 19:15 What kind of bowl? 25:30 An hour is a long time 29:50 Vebron is into the reverse Trogdor 31:55 The Might Nein release form (fanart?) 35:40 Fjord’s dad joke 39:20 Wrecking Caleb 41:55 The arcane knowledge of pronunciation 43:20 Caleb makes a joke 50:15 That’s Dr. Creepypervert to you 1:04:20 Classic Salty Pete maneuver 1:26:15 This is how Travis holds children 1:38:50 Choosing the right corpse 1:41:25 “Hey dead person…” 1:45:15 OH GOD, NOW WE’RE FIGHTING 1:53:45 40 feet trolls deep 1:57:50 Make a regret save 2:06:05 HDYWT Save The Day 2:09:10 Sam’s devastating jokes 2:17:20 “We’ll be idiots if we want to” 2:22:40 Break Starts and ends 2:23:50 Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal 2:25:30 Sam roasts Caleb 2:35:20 Nott Bren 2:38:00 Tugging that branch 2:53:30 Visual aid 2:59:15 Somehow the only Thor: Ragnorock reference 3:03:00 Battle Begins 3:20:00 Enlarged Beau is best Beau 3:24:45 The Snitch attempts to flee Matt 3:39:35 HDYWTDT 4:04:00 Bowl games 4:14:15 The story hooks are unleashed
I love the look on Ashley's face to Jester, when she starts to cast talk with the dead, one thing that she did many times as Pike, like, "My little girl is learning". Is so sweet. 1:41:05
I feel like every single person with a previous class in someone else is doing that lol Travis to Ashley, Liam to Sam, Ashley to Laura. It's wonderful t watch
@@nathanmigneault8542 was playing on Xbox live with a British dude and someone else (not memorable) and we’re in the competitive playlist of the game and we lost 2 games and won 1 the third guy who’s been dragging the entire session leaves without saying anything. I just say “welp dude left” British dude in the most sarcastic dry voice “ah a great loss” had me dying. But that’s my favorite way to express that nowadays 😂 don’t even know why it cracks me up so much.
Haha, I'm so glad you pointed that out: thanks! I love glimpses of this side of Ashley. Though I'm not sure anything can match her antics in Liam's Quest 3: Full Circle.
@@miguelsuarez-solis5027 they probably thought “Cats can see in the dark? They must be exaggerating! Let’s just give cats advantage on perception checks!” 😂
28:38 "What's your name?" Nott: Bren Caleb: *Stares down Nott in shocked horror/anger for several moments.* Nott: shurgs in confusion Me who is watching this the second time: 😲
Yeah, listening to that i had to go back and watch. It is so subtle, i am glad they talked about it. He literally just took "bren" from "brenado", i mean "brenatto"
@@danielknapp159 hey thanks for replying! No this is my first run thru and I'm hardcore binging it so all the episodes are kinda merging together and sometimes little details tend to get lost.. Lol thanks for helping!
@@danielknapp159 *Brenatto. I wouldnt normally correct you on the spelling, but its actually important this time because Veth Brenatto is an anagram for "Nott The Brave".
i hate how beau trys to control caleb and tries to use big quotes and tries to act so high and mighty like only she can determine what is good, idk why marishas characters try to act like everything is so high and mighty but dont ever figure anything out
I like Marisha but her charactwrs are always so unhinged. Beauregard is the worst so far. Its fine i guess, playing an unlikabke character is part of the story. Every team needs one@natescott1840
she fixes herself the very next episode but she had a whole week to think about it. This is like 3rd time she treats Caleb like shit. Caleb was really unfortunate to share his sevret with her of all people. I know some spoilers and BE CAREFUL HERE: I have no idea how she ends up being with Yasha who is this sweet giant emo angel. I hope it ends up being just sex and Yashafinds someone better. And I like Marisha, her Keyleth was okay, aside from still sucking at the leader thing after so much shit. Beauregard is who i hate, not Marisha. RP with bits of annoying parts of Marisha just created this monster, i really hope it gets better, for campagin 3 too@@csn583
Matt's imitation skills are absolutely incredible.... listening without watching and I keep having to stop and look at the captions to see that it is Kiri talking.
Alexander Thompson I think that was because he was more of trying to get the personality not the voice and failed completely or he was messing with her
@@devonhalford5522 - Interesting point. Or maybe it helps Matt a lot to have just heard the original and mimic it, rather than trying to dial in the accent from scratch for new word he didn't just hear in Laura's Jester accent.
yeah, not sure if that was just lost on Marisha, or its just that she's acting that beau is just kind of like that in general. It does make sense for her character to act like that, creating a bit of drama and what not, makes sense, its not like they have deep rooted connections like the first campaign, they are a bunch of misfits who have only known each other for like a month at this point.
@@lobear3074 I suspect its acting :D She pretty much immediately admits to Fjord she was in the wrong. It's possible she got lost in the character, but that is still acting in its own way I suppose.
39:25 beau: "say fire one more time" cali: "fire" beau: [highfives fjord] caleb: [slowly turns around to glare at beau as kiri starts to repeat "fire" over and over again]
So you've got a character who is descended from a specifically evil kind of dragon. And they have a tendency to be overwhelmed by that draconic nature. And they admit to having done some seriously evil shit as part of a cult dedicated to one of the great forces of evil in the world who is also draconic. Sure let's give them the bowl without checking their intentions. You know the bowl. The one that lets you commune with said evil draconic god when you fill it with blood. The evil bowl. The bowl specifically for evil. That bowl.
@@naturalone6529 I had to stop the video and take a breather. I got so mad at them for railing him about this. He didn't even say she couldn't have it. He literally just wanted them to take some time to check her intentions. Then on top of that, Beau gives him some bizarre and seemingly unrelated rant about his trauma? Jester annoyed me, but at least her comments made sense thematically. Idk, I just had to step away for a bit. Yikes.
caleb: i'm awkward, i don't like people, people don't like me also caleb: hello newcomer i'll help you integrate yourself into the group oh you're having a hard time? here's my literal emotional support cat for you hope it helps love you
The similarities between Caleb and Calis backstory are insane. The "I helped kill people, I helped torture people, I have to make sure they can't do this to anyone ever again" is so similar to Calebs words.
I was losing my mind at that point, they spent precious ambush time debating if Fjord is half fish then got surprise when they lost the surprise attack.
@@DM-zh2ktultimately it’s not a very combat focused show, and since they are all actors I feel like they exceed at the talking part anyway. Though I agree sometimes the game mechanic mistakes can be annoying. They have gotten better at it in some ways
Everyone: "Lets do something different with the next Campaign" Liam and Sam: "Ok, We made characters that wouldn't have fallen for Arkhans Betrayal that easily" Everyone Else: "HOW DARE YOU"
IKR "how dare you make the characters with backgrounds of being betrayed untrusting! "but i guess that goes for beau being untrusting with people she cares about too
@@mac-jf5dd yeah, i love how Marisha's allowed to hate everyone she encounters and be a complete shithead to every person on the planet, but Liam gets yelled at and berated by the entire fucking party for not wanting to return a powerful magical artifact to a complete stranger. Marisha and Laura were very out of line with that shit and it pissed me off
@@Albatross0913 YES!! thank you. It was very hard to listen to when the entire time I was like Beau is an ass to literally every single person she encounters but Caleb is "cautious" and they jump all over him....
@@Albatross0913 Y'all. if two characters in a tv show, didn't get along would you blame the actors? just because a character interaction isn't nice and feel good doesn't make it bad.
Pros to Calebs Plan: -Gets to make sure that they're not passing off a powerful artifact to a cultist of a Betrayer God -Low effort, fairly non-intrusive Cons: -None
I actually got so pissed at that fucking monk. Everyone agreed with Caleb's plan. Including fucking Cali. INCLUDING CALI AND Beau fucking ruined it. There is literally zero downside to casting a truth spell. Fucking baeu.
@@dylangaeta6462 I agree with this so much. The worst part was after Celab said "What happens if she was lying", and she responds with "Well we will learn the lesson for next time". Its like, what lesson? To make sure people aren't lying! No disrespect to the players though. Beau is an asshole & she is being played correctly.
@@BG-ok4ov I dont think Liam was hurt. Sure Caleb was, but everyone in this game are close friends with each other & know that just because Beau is an asshole doesn't mean Marisha is or that Liam thinks she is. Its like was Liam upset at Travis for Fjord threatening Caleb with a sword? No. It's a game of make believe they all play together as friends and are very good actors.
@@dylangaeta6462 Liam was visibly uncomfortable after that scene that she made. It seems like she is playing that character to channel out real anger, because that was actually just so rude to get in his face like that. And the holding her hand above her head for the duration to rub it in was so childish and petty. You can tell a story without having to actually make people uncomfortable and by being genuinely rude.
@@NoahSBX Have you seen how Liam acts when anyone talks to Caleb, he makes himself smaller & awkward. No one is actually hurt out of game by these. Beau is an asshole & Celab is an extreme introvert but that doesn't mean the players are. People need to stop trying to make in-game choices mean out of game drama. Literally watch the after show's for this campaign and you can see how they all love how their characters interact with each other.
God I hope Matt really plays into the party's blind trust for "friendly" characters in future episodes to teach them a lesson. Calebs idea was solidly reasonable. Their argument against it was... feels before reals for someone they don't even know? C'mon. I was desperately hoping that Cali was secretly evil... lol
This isn't a situation of blind trust in NPCs based naivety like Clarota, or blind trust like the Trickfoots. This is a guest PC with no reason to be distrusted, other than her seeking a magical object; something Caleb is guilty of himself. That doesn't automatically presume she wants it for nefarious purposes. Not everyone on a personal quest outside the objectives of the main party is secretly evil, or placed in the world just to be a "gotcha" trap for the party. Caleb projecting his own obsession over magic to distrust someone else is pretty harmful, especially if that behavior cuts off diplomatic solutions in future encounters against actual NPCs, who would probably consider the mere suggestion of magical coercion an act of aggression. That could just as easily be used as a lesson teaching opportunity by the DM. Her mentioning being raised by Tiamat's cult was probably an intentional Red Herring made by Mark to remind the players of the betrayal at the end of the last campaign. So who knows if that just put Liam off or what. Either way, it's not up Caleb to be the magic police. Being suspicious of everyone and approaching every situation with "let's cast magic on them and force them to tell us the truth" is pretty shitty. He could have just asked Matt if he could roll insight to determine if Caleb believed if Calianna was telling the truth or not. That's a 10-20 second question to the DM that would yield the same results as dramatically coercing the party to take a rest, just so he can have his healer waste a spell unnecessarily. There is a difference between blindly trusting someone just because they are nice, and not being a dick to somebody just because they are going about their own business that you are inserting yourself into. Beau and Jester have a right as their own characters to tell Caleb it isn't his business. Beau herself said the hypothetical "then she fucking lied to us, and we take that and we learn that as a lessen for later on." No need for the DM to concoct some punishment for an "unlearned lessen" when there was no lessen to learn from. My point is this, there are two kinds of people: Those who communicate with others and only distrust them with probable cause; and beholders who think everyone is trying to rob them or kill them. Caleb was being a beholder here, and Beau recognized that it was unlikely Calianna was lying. Even with role playing, someones takeaway shouldn't be "boy, we shouldn't have trusted that person who did us no wrong. Now we are going to get back stabbed in the future as punishment for not blindly distrusting everyone."
@@ninboy01 even though it is indeed a shitty, that's what having caution is about. He have already miss read people before, so if he have the option to magic verify someone intention over a device used to talk to an evil ancient entity aka a betrayer god, mother of dragons, that's the actual most cautious play. Cali herself agreeded with it still. "Mr Caleb seems to be the only one that understands how powerful this device is"
@@ninboy01 "This is a guest PC with no reason to bs distrusted" Yeah, the metagaming is part of the problem. "other than wanting a magical item" And being half evil dragon, and being part of a death cult, and admitting to being naive and easily manipulated, and acting aggressive and yelling at a M9 member who didn't even do anything... Definitely sounds to me like someone who should have sole possession of a relic used to commune with evil gods. "Caleb projecting his own obsession over magic to distrust someone else is pretty harmful" I haven't seen a single instance of Caleb projecting his issues on others despite Beau's repeated insistence otherwise. "[NPCs] would probably find the mere suggestion of magical coercion aggressive" I feel like you need proper in-game perspective. This isn't "but if I lend them my pen, they might steal it!" Yes, it's harmful to be that paranoid over petty things. This isn't petty. It's potentially apocalyptic. I feel like most people would practically beg for magic to be used if it could ensure they were trusted (as Cali herself does). A zone of truth (I believe that's what Caleb is referring to. He never got the chance to detail his plan) is not the same as a charm person spell, and I've never seen any negative consequences for using it the way Caleb was suggesting. "it's not up to Caleb to be the magic police" This has such "why do you want to save the galaxy?" "Because I'm one of the idiots who lives in it!" energy. Again, we're not arguing over a ham sandwich. We're arguing over nuclear launch codes. Handing over nuclear launch codes to someone you met half a day ago because "you have no reason to distrust them" is imbecilic. And he didn't say "let's never give this to her ever" he said "we have ways to make sure we can *trust* her. Not merely not distrust her." It's interesting you're at all defensive of Beau's "then she fucking lied to us and we'll take that as a lesson for later on" given the fact that it horrifyingly undermines her entire point. What lesson would they take except to do exactly what Caleb suggests doing? And if they do have to learn that lesson they'd also have to stop an evil dragon god that is only a problem because of actions they took. It really feels like you're ignoring the obvious context and focusing on minute subtext to justify Beau's actions and attack Caleb's.
I love this campaign, but I hate how Liam is constantly given shit for essentially good roleplaying. I mean Caleb and Nott are basically build for Doing the right THing in the end, but very reluctantly.
@@Jakecmuir You can see there is a Metagame Reaction to their actions at this point and also why this behavior stopped completely and kinda unnaturaly in later episodes.
Sam's flask says "the bagel knows." Sam couldn't have known yet because Everything Everywhere All at Once wasn't out. but speaking to you from the tail end of 2022, yes, the bagel does indeed know.
At the beginning of the Campaign Caleb & Nott: are constantly fighting alongside & helping the group Group: not trusting them and calling them out every other day Cali: is part of the group for like 10 hours Caleb: maybe we should wait to give her this powerful thing until we're 100% sure of her intentions Group: HOW FUCKING DARE YOU
This part stressed me out so badly. Caleb is trying to do everything the group asks, he didn't keep the bowl, he showed his friends, and they trust a stranger over him. Beau just find things to criticize him for and i think if it was real, and not players having to stay in a game, that Caleb and Nott would have left long ago.
@@laynasnow8550 Man I'm so glad other people are thinking what I'm thinking. Caleb has such a good plan for knowing this random person's true intentions and it'd take them 12 hours longer than just giving a super powerful, evil artifact to a random, possibly untrustworthy half-dragon lady. And the group (Beauregard mostly) just treat him as if he's being a horrible dirtbag... Idk what they were thinking when they sided with Calianna over Caleb there. Also, props to Liam for playing it as he did. He responded as if he'd had undue dirt thrown at him for so long he was used to it and to the world disregarding him. I love how he plays Caleb. Also props to Calianna (sorry cant remember actor name) for standing up for him too.
@@laynasnow8550 yeaaa it was pretty clear to me that in one of the earlier episodes that caleb and knott stayted ONLY for the sake of the game. Liam knew that caleb wouldnt actually have stayed but since he is such a great player, made it work.
THANK YOU like holy shit caleb and knott really havent done a single thing to deserve so much distrust. They are the only ones being singled out and being forced to constantly prove themselves. i mean shit, fjord has unexplained dark powers and an oblivious mystery with his powers, same for molly. Yasha just up and leaves for days on end and also has a foggy past and is some sort of divine creature, beau hides literally everything about herself, including joining some secret organization that very clearly are influencing the choices she makes. But no, lets not trust the only two people who keep doing what they can to prove themselves. and for baeu to even admit that being lied to would have to be a lesson to learn in the same breath of chastising caleb for trying to apply that lesson already is just mind numbingly aggravating.
Liam "What is she lied to us?" Marisha "Then she lied to us, and we learned lesson for the future" ... Like, the lesson to not blindly trust someone and that there is nor harm in being cautious especially that you have a Zone of truth spell? (Which costs you nothing) That same lesson you don't need to learn because you are already applying the moral of the lesson right now by double checking Cali?
No, see, Caleb was "trying to control the situation" which is completely unimaginable so instead Beau took the bowl from him and controlled the situation. It doesn't matter that they could take 12 hours to make sure it wasn't going to cause evil, mayhem, and deaths across Exandria as the Scaled Tyrant who's bent on the destruction of most mortal races is empowered, Caleb can't "take control of situations." Only Beau can do that. And why not just take a gigantic risk with an unknown person who has evil dragon blood running through their veins that literally moments before lost control and snarled and threatened Beau? When someone snaps at me, like a rapid dog for instance, I immediately trust them. We can always just run around Exandria trying to stop the Cult of the Caustic Heart AFTER their evil plans came to fruition and they killed potentially hundreds of people and destroyed civilization... why bother taking 12 whole hours. Aint nobody got time for that! Easily the dumbest and most cringe worthy moment of the series and it's all based off of Marisha using out of character influences to dictate Beau's actions... or Beau is just completely oblivious to literally everything that led up to that point.
I totally agree. She's talking about learning a lesson about something he's informing her about. I'ts like a teenager beeing told by their parents that something clearly could go wrong based on their knowledge and reason and still choosing to go on with it. It's immature behaviour that I do not think meets the description of who her character should be. Poor character playing, I think. She seems to kind of be inconsistent in many moments, such as annoying Caleb at the libraty to leave ASAP because she is bored (after hearing his back story!).
@@GoodSteve123 Yea Marisha is probably my least favorite of the whole group. She constantly seems to try to make things about her. She enjoys being the center of attention.
It absolutely blew my fucking mind how being CAREFUL with a potential fucking doomsday relic was somehow cause for a completely overblown fucking character attack from Bo. Good god, I disliked her character up to this point because of her abrasiveness but honestly I think this pushed her into genuine dislike territory, which feels very odd to me considering I'm just relaxing and killing time watching people play DnD O.o I mean yea, sure, fuck it. Let's just unleash armageddon instead of just simply casting a spell and maybe NOT unleashing armageddon lol
@@itzplant3196 what part of what he suggested would have been altered by an increased amount of sympathy? The point was a confirmation of motivation. Beau was supporting blind trust and faith in absolute ignorance.
Caleb: Tries to prevent the end of the world from an evil dragon god Beauregard: "wHaT ThE heLL MAn?!?" Cali: "He is doing the right thing" Beau: "Nu-uH"
jelle hofstede I think it all depends on how you role play it though. A wise character can be traditionally wise with low wisdom score. The ability scores are more tools for the game, the role play doesn’t have to be based on them.
Keyleth had insanely high wisdom in the last campaign and Marisha did the exact same stuff with her. I honestly liked Beau until Marisha started doing the same thing as she would do with Keyleth.
Caleb: We should be extremely cautious handing over this instrument of world ending destruction Everyone else: You're being unreasonable just hand the thing over That exchange made me absurdly upset
Beau instantly contradicting herself by saying "you don't get to be the authority of others and control the situation" meanwhile she forcefully takes the object from Caleb, and drags him away... physically taking control of the situation and being the authority of how Caleb behaves.
Yep. Beau is my least liked character this campaign so far. Just an asshole for assholes sake. Keyleth was my least liked last campaign. Terrible decision after terrible decision and was always pissed every time something did not go her way. Her reaction, distrust and treatment of Kema, a paladin of a good and highly regarded god in the world and a friend of one of their most trusted friends and allies, Allura Visoren, in favor of an outcast denizen of the underdark nearly made me stop watching as it was just so out of place. It made me hate the character a lot and she continues to treat a lot of characters poorly over the campaign. To be honest I wish Marisha and Ashley (she is gone too much and to be honest does not add much of anything to the show when she is there) would be replaced by Will Friedle and Ashly Burch. Would have a vastly improved game and show as both of them are just better. I however know this will never happen but I can dream.
@Fallstar they will never replace her for the fact that she deals with a lot of the behind the scenes stuff for the company as well as her being one of the few players who actually takes diligent notes.
wow this comment thread is harsh, but it's worth remembering that this is a group of best friends who had been playing dnd together and suddenly got the opportunity to live stream it and its accelerated since then. they would never replace anyone, just like you would never kick someone out of your party for not being entertaining enough. i'm also assuming that those of you insulting Marisha haven't gotten very far in the series, as Beau's character develops immensely in upcoming episodes and her asshole-ish actions are in-character. Marisha is a good roleplayer, which you'll see if you watch the one-shots. Keyleth and Beau are just assholes, but that doesn't mean Marisha is
I love how Beau and Fjord' avatars both look bloody and dirty and bruised when their hitpoints are almost down to zero, and then Caleb's looks dirty and messy even when his hit points are at his maximum.
I was listening and thinking "they're gunna need a stealth check for whispering in the cavern for so long." A minute later: "Everyone make a stealth check."
The second day started bickering I was already annoyed, knowing that they were about to lose their ambush. They deserved everything they got. Since they haven’t learned in the last 135+ episodes, it’s not like they’re going to learn from this either. Maybe my biggest grip, next to just Mariya herself, with this group, is that they argue over a single plan instead of coming up with other plans and it just turns into a shitting-on-others-ideas fest.
Also, the troll that was stalking them throughout the swamp/bog eventually resulting in their paid guide dying. I'm not sure why they chose to ignore the troll that was following them, especially after the DM even said, "it's waiting for a straggler to snag." Like, at least have Nott shoot a few arrows at it to scare it off. The troll knew it couldn't fight a group of 9 people, something else Matt mentioned. It wasn't going to suddenly get aggressive and charge them. I know it was just a generic NPC that Matt planned to have targeted, but still. No intelligence with this lot of roleplayers. They stopped to chat with a dead person when they had a guide and were right near their location.
I cant. this episode is just.... why? like, even Cali was on Calebs Side. I hope that look of frustration on Liams face was more Caleb but it looked like real frustration.
eh its both, though due to them being experienced actors, they are able to separate their frustration with the frustration of the character after the fact. It was an argument, and when you are in the argument you get heated, the important part is to be able to let that go once you step out of the character.
Definitely would have been real frustration for me :P Making a logical deduction and having everyone tell you it was stupid and wrong and inconsiderate, and then have someone unload an entire insulting rant as they talk down to the character you made. Gracious, group conflicts are one thing but I'd be pretty sour for the rest of the session after that. Props to the whole group for being able to separate in-character and out-of-character during stuff like that.
@@aetherwise2159 As someone who loves VTM, being capable of separating yourself from in-character conflict is essential for a good session. Even if someone is being unreasonable, you should be able to put up with it in order to allow good roleplay to happen. Of course if something turns out to be hurtful, it can be debated while out of character.
Idk why everyone attacked Liam like that, like they didnt listen to what he was saying and they weren't thinking logically. Even yelled at him for thinking logically... like wtf I'd be pissed.
This is a prime example of why I really don't like guests in the main campaign. Everyone but Liam, and to a lesser extent Sam, was basically using metagaming as a way to welcome her into the group, and treating her differently than they would if she were an NPC. 'Mark is playing her, so she must be trustworthy'; nevermind these normally untrusting characters met her less than 12 hours earlier and have no reason to automatically trust her with such an evil object.
@@emdm2220 The players know that, the characters don't. The same characters who question anyone and everything they encounter just blithely trust someone they just met, who has chromatic dragon ancestry, and who moments before displayed that heritage by turning on one of their own, with an artifact that allows someone to commune with one of the most evil of the betrayer gods (who also happens to be the mother of chromatic dragons), no questions asked.
@@Direwolf181 And she responds to that by yelling at him for responding to his own trigger button getting smashed - which I would argue he wasn't actually doing at all. Sigh. I like Marisha, but why does she always have to play annoying hypocrites?
@@NoriMori1992 it's kind of the point? Beau was in the wrong they both were. Caleb shouldn't have tried to force Calianna to stay against her will and inadvertently pushed Beau's trauma button and Beau was also in the wrong for how she reacted. Neither of them are particularly good people at this point (Keep in mind Liam himself fully expected Caleb to go full evil eventually before Character development ht and Beau was stil extremely selfish)i but they do work things out. Plus Beau does grow out of her more selfish bratty nature Plus I mean Liam and Marisha were clearly having a blast the entire time they were loving the drama
It did piss me the fuck off about how she was treating him, he was just taking precautions, and beau exploded on him, and belittled his history,and his intentions. He essentially understands that the bowl is relative to a nuke to a degree in it dangerous ability, and to be safe for the group and general existence, he wanted to verify Cali, but beau just decided fuck you, youre being shitty because youre projecting. When literally Cali herself then says no i fully understand why he did that, and hes pretty much rightfor doing it.
“We take that, and we learn that as a lesson for later on.” He already learned the lesson once, Beau. He was doing that LITERALLY because he learned it once.
@@chrisg8989 I mean, I don't dislike Beau, cause you know, this happened very early on in the story and everyone hasn't known each other much,. They did grow into an unbreakable family later on and everyone grew into a better version of themselves. I did think Beau was unreasonable in this episode, but overall, she is still an amazing character, just like everyone else.
@@chrisg8989 in Campaign 1 Marisha's character was indeed the least likeable for me. Beauregard in the beginning also didn't do it for me, but she became one of my favourites over time.
Beu is great on her own, but her antagonistic side about Caleb is getting really annoying, cause she goes really far with it, even if it means going against something she otherwise would probably do (like using the truth spell with someone they just met, just to be sure of their intentions). I loved Cali for actually being the only smart person there beside Caleb and Nott, and agreeing with Caleb's choice and even defending him.
Yeah that whole interaction was absolutely stupid. I was kinda frustrated but humored with Nott for hiding the Bowl but then realized why he did it when I realized that Caleb would inspect it. It was the only wise thing to do. And as an ex-cultist/brainwashed person Caleb has some really hard earned wariness and wisdom about evil stuff and liars. As someone whose been a vagrant and has seen the hard sides of the streets he would naturally be untrusting. M9’s knee jerk over the top hatred of Caleb’s obviously wise decision was so hard to sit through. I do like how eventually in C3 Matt uses this collective naïveté to eff them over. Besides that Beau’s use of platitudes and false wisdom bombs is so annoying. The “we’ll learn from that if it happens” line was infuriating. Tbh if I was playing Caleb I would have blown up on her and said “I DID learn from it. When I trusted a man who convinced me to murder my family”. Like shit, Beau, way to take Caleb’s trust in confiding in you and shit on it. Beau is trash. Still love M9 so far but they are hella dumb at times.
I love at 1:59:27 you can actually see Matt transition from DM to husband as he realizes this will kill Marisha's character. After a moment he then goes back to being impartial when her says "What are you doing Caleb?". Honestly never thought I'd get so into a show about DnD, but 80 hours deep and here we are.
Yeah he's had these little moments every time a character is legit looking like they're going to die. I still remember a moment in Campaign 1 where things were looking grim for Pike and his whole demeanor changed. Seems like a sweetheart of a guy
Caleb’s expression when Nott says his name is Bren. Either Liam told Sam (which I doubt) or it’s just a crazy coincidence. Either way, it was a really great exchange between characters
I believe it was stated in a later Talks Machina that it was pure coincidence, and Liam for a moment thought Matt had told Sam some stuff about Caleb's past for whatever reason. [Spoilers below] Purely coincidence that their names were similar I mean. I know Sam was teasing us with part of Nott's halfling surname.
Caleb: "We should be cautious with this world ending artifact" Cali: "I agree with Caleb" Everyone else: "Wow Caleb, don't try to control other people's destinies you dickhead"
This upset me so much. Everyone was upset Caleb wanted to make sure nothing evil can come from handing over this key to communicating with a power/evil being to a stranger they just met. Clearly INT stats are very low for everyone especially Beau
First time watcher here. Does Beau improve as a character later on, cuz she is the most annoying character I've ever watched. And does everyone stop shitting on Caleb so much at some point cuz this is like the third time in the campaign Caleb took a group beating for no good reason. Cali kind of defending Caleb towards the end was sweet and seemed like damage control on Mark's part lol
@@leggo0116Marisha always does this, attempting to be the arbiter of good and dramatically ruining things whilst she thinks she’s holier than though. She did it many times in the first campaign and it gets grating very fast
Quite frankly, I don't think Beau had any right to throw Caleb under the bus like that. Caleb told her what he did in secret with the trust that she wouldn't speak of it again, but she used his lows against him all because he was being cautious about the safety of the group. He doesn't really owe any trust to a stranger, especially in the situations they get into, and the danger of this item honestly is fully deserving of careful treatment. Relying on the words of a stranger isn't safe at all, so I think the team's hostility towards Caleb is completely uncalled for.
It also shows that he shouldn't have put his trust in Beau to begin with. If I were in Caleb's position, I would never tell Beau anything personal ever again because she's the kind of person who uses it against you.
I know! I was like this is crazy - Beau is saying well if we make mistake we learn from it. Caleb is trying to explain this bowl might be the medieval fantasy equivalent of the nuclear launch codes so maybe let's not hand them over to the suspiciously helpful stranger that popped in 10 hours ago
Just hoping they eventually house rule that cats have darkvision, because that's ridiculous. It's not a balance thing either, since owl familiars have darkvision and a special flyby ability, so it would just make cats almost as good as owls... I'm sure this is a whole argument in the community, but mostly when I looked at familiars for my characters, I saw people house ruling to fix stuff like that.
she had the perfect item to do it with! I'm sure in some other scenario it would have taken a bit to solve this little mini-puzzle, especially if they had sold the blade.
Exactly what I was thinking. I’m watching Campaign 2 for the first time. I keep thinking, “Hey! The fucking Hand of Vecna is out there, on a necromancer barbarian, canonically, in their timeline currently, in their world.” The actors know that, and they try not to metagame, but come on! They know better than to trust guests with powerful, evil artifacts.
Caleb is also the guy who killed his parents, became crazy, and now wants to control time. Even if he was right, him keeping powerful magic shit is a complete cancel. It feels kinda like projection on the character part. He thinks no one with magic should attain powerful objects, cuz if it was him, he would fuck up for sure. Tbh, it's kinda of annoying, I hope he gets better at later episodes
Not for nuttin but Joe was easily one of the all time best guests and a SOLID player with a real understanding of of the game and the mechanics. Love to see him back at the table!
@@ladyhella7560 He's not projecting... he's literally just making sure a dangerous item doesn't get in the wrong hands. He knows people aren't inherently worthy of trust. That's what the whole group has been repeating since the beginning... that nobody is trustworthy, not even M9. But apparently a stranger who's a (former, as far as they know) cult member walking away with a magical nuke is fine?
1) They have made their insight check. They have no reason to overly suspect Cali. 2) They are not a heroic figures. Not their job - not their buisness. 3) Imagine being a guest player in someones campaign. You have literally one purpose for being here. A freaking goal of your life at this points. And then players start doing sh*t like this. Hiding the object of your search from you, stalling time (realistically you are not going to just take a long reast in that area without combat, and you are there for one session only). I would be totally pissed. Props for Cali's player for being as great as he as he was tho. 4)Zone of thruth is not even something you can do. It's something that Jester can do - and she was again that. So that's it, at this point you have even more reasons to stop. Enough.
Caleb and Nott: starting to act smart. Rest of Mighty Nien: trying to do anything to stop them. It's quite infuriating how much bias against Caleb and Nott. Caleb has to fight for every not related to identifying loot decision
@@blingwraith6951 Liam is seems smarter than others because he obviously reads all the d&d sources off camera, but his character's tendency to overdramatized self-criticism makes me sick. Sam is very good role-player, and his characters aren't very deep thinkers. Travis is very smart, but not really trying to bend the rules of the game, I really want to see him play smart guy, preferably sourserer or wizard. I think Taliesin is smartest there, but his chill character have no leader abilities, and he can't prove it. P.S. It's only my opinion, there is no hate
Роман Дудин “smartest” and “most learned” are literally NOT synonyms. At least in English. All that aside, I said “most experienced” which would also NOT be a synonym for “smartest”.
I really dont like how beau and jester didnt hear anything that Caleb had to say, he has been with them for weeks even longer than a stranger that they Just met, I am really salty especially with beau.
Agreed. She was just upset she wasnt consulted about it. But consulting the group would have been a giveaway to the half dragon that not too long prior, was rampaging....
Her logic just made zero sense, her plan was to trust her and if she was lying learn that lesson for the future. How about you just have no need for learning that lesson by not making the mistake of trusting her in the first place like Caleb did? Just 0 sense made.
@@a.garcha199 Well Beau as a character is just pretty dense and unreasonable most of the time, and act's as a know-it-all. She's useful in fighting situations, but outside of that not the most helpful, sometimes she makes it even harder for the group to succeed in social encounters.
Beau's made of 92.3% cringe. There's plenty of other things that are amazing in this show, so I'm just the happiest whenever Beau doesn't do much outside of combat.
Just gonna say I watched high rollers before critical role, and you can really tell that Mark has been a dungeon master before because he describes everything so vividly lol
M9: kiri what do you have?!
Kiri: A KNIFE! M9: NO!
I killed people. Chirp chirp
@@jeohranalfhir8366 And I'll do it again. Chirp. Chirp.
@@knyteshade6265 Kiri: coo coo, ill stab a mother fucker
M9: Okay we did not teach her that language
Jester and Nott: _[looks at each other nervously]_
i love this comment thread
@@OriginalCreatorSama So much fun.
They can never remember they have an item that allows them a reroll, but God damn they will never forget about their plethora of ball bearings
Boots of initiative: am I a joke to you?
@@MrK133n she actually uses those boots all the time, she just doesnt usually say shes doing it. I think she talked about it on Talks Machina :)
@@cadenmcclain9608 thanks, mate! that makes me feel a lot better, she rarely mentions in in game and I’m so far behind I can’t watch the ancillary shows yet.
@@MrK133n I'm just catching up too lol, I saw a comment a few episodes ago mentioning it
At least it’s not a paladin who constantly forgets to use his spells
One of the low key impressive things in this episode is how Matt continued his normal dm tasks but still managed to accurately recall who said what so he could mimic it as Kiri the entire time.
If you concentrate your attention on him you see him sometimes smirk and take a note of things players have said. "Wrapped around his weenie."
@@meph2473 He's also mentioned in his DM Tips series that he uses a check mark system when they do something either very in-character or meta-gamey to add or subtract essentially social exp. It seems this campaign is more milestone instead of exp, but he may be also notating those things
People can do that by improving their memory recall skills, by learning a couple new things daily, and typically reading books is good food for thought. 😆😋
Seriously though, Matt writes the campaign, he's written books, and he's read thousands more. And that's probably not all of the factors contributing to his impressive recall skills.
My point is---and really---I think you guys knew this, but Matt is incredible at this DM/GM thing. I'd be really impressed if he could recall exact damage for almost every encounter, but there are limits to being human. Most DMs can't remember simple names lmao
I'm on my third watch through of the entire series and there's still new stuff surprising me. It's a lot.
@@KitKatWiffleBallBat he has been doing this for years, and he's been an actor for more years. So I'm not too surprised at his skill, but it is still impressive
It's really not all that impressive
Fjord:" I cast eldritch blast"
Beau:gets covered in acid and faints
Fjord:"I cast regret"
Caleb would almost killed Beau :D imagine you killing one of your teammates xD
@@Levin_sunwtf...speak english
are you talking to a ghost?@@nm11111111able
1:55:55
Unfortunately you can't cast two spells. But you can use your bonus action to regret.
HEY NEW WATCHERS
There are SPOILERS for much later in the campaign littering the comments, don't read them unless you're willing to get spoiled for MUCH LATER EPISODES
Thanks for the heads up, from a brand new watcher😊👍🏻
Thank you for the heads up. I will stop scrolling now.
Thank you for posting this!!
Thanks for the heads up, last campaign I took the habit to scroll through the comments, guess better not that anymore
Thank you, friend. You’re doing God’s work.
Theory: Kiri is the meta-gaming pigeon who repeats information that the players forget.
I love this.
Underrated comment right here.
Made me laugh so hard i startled my dog! I hadnt thought about that. Yeah 100% metagaming pigeon.
😆
This is what I thought as soon as we met her lol
“I’m disappointed in you.”
“That means literally nothing to me.”
⚰️
Me in real life 🤣🤣
My former step dad said that to me many many years ago. My reply was. "Huh, how 'bout that." He's dead now.
Pretty much how I felt. Just a lazy character.
@@gideonhansen5485 buto
@@izmik6489 That means literally nothing to me.
Marisha's slow, silent head turn when Liam called Beau dead weight is the funniest shit
2:07:18
HEY, there might be some SPOILERS under the thing
1:30 Critical Role finally gets an anime intro (Kamil and Kevin, karekareo on Twitter)
3:30 ONE MORE TIME (k on Patreon, Ki Frame on TH-cam)
9:50 Episode Starts
14:55 The ninth appears
17:55 Fjord’s daughter
19:15 What kind of bowl?
25:30 An hour is a long time
29:50 Vebron is into the reverse Trogdor
31:55 The Might Nein release form (fanart?)
35:40 Fjord’s dad joke
39:20 Wrecking Caleb
41:55 The arcane knowledge of pronunciation
43:20 Caleb makes a joke
50:15 That’s Dr. Creepypervert to you
1:04:20 Classic Salty Pete maneuver
1:26:15 This is how Travis holds children
1:38:50 Choosing the right corpse
1:41:25 “Hey dead person…”
1:45:15 OH GOD, NOW WE’RE FIGHTING
1:53:45 40 feet trolls deep
1:57:50 Make a regret save
2:06:05 HDYWT Save The Day
2:09:10 Sam’s devastating jokes
2:17:20 “We’ll be idiots if we want to”
2:22:40 Break Starts and ends
2:23:50 Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal
2:25:30 Sam roasts Caleb
2:35:20 Nott Bren
2:38:00 Tugging that branch
2:53:30 Visual aid
2:59:15 Somehow the only Thor: Ragnorock reference
3:03:00 Battle Begins
3:20:00 Enlarged Beau is best Beau
3:24:45 The Snitch attempts to flee Matt
3:39:35 HDYWTDT
4:04:00 Bowl games
4:14:15 The story hooks are unleashed
Between Twitch and TH-cam, live viewership of this episode peaked around 55,000 people. The in-game start day for the episode was the 8th of Fessuran 835. Sam’s flask says “The Bagel Knows”
The Stream of Many Eyes was great for those who were able to catch it live. The games should be going up on the Dungeons and Dragons TH-cam page in the next few days, so watch for it. I really loved Matt’s Force Grey game.
Any moments I missed? Feel free to post them here. Is it Thursday yet?
Flando you're awesome dude, but you really dont need to do this. Lol Take a break man. XD
absolut madlad for doing it again
I have no idea how hard it is finding all your old notes is, but thank you for finding them and reposting them.
the king
Fucking LEGEND
*"I cast regret."*
Mikhael Claude too true, you can see it on his face
my dad cast this the first time he saw me.
I'm sure ALL magic users have cast this cantrip at some point😂
"Is it Thursday yet?"
Silly Matt, it's always Thursday when you're behind. *Clicks next video*
You caught up yet?
it's been thursday for two weeks now
@@ninesartandgames6684 it'll be Thursday for a loooong time 😂
I felt that way TOO...but now I’m caught up 🙆♀️😭🥺
@@crytlmeen it took me like a month and half to watch c1. I'm looking forward to being caught up, but then I realized I can't watch live because of timing. So I'm just marching towards a game of waiting, not sure if I should be excited or bummed haha.
"I'm disappointed in you Mr. Fjord!"
"Eh that means....literally nothing to me."
I just about died laughing at that response.
When was this?
@@alexisoneil7179 1:26:16 to start, goes on about a minute to get to Cali (blech 🤢) "shaming" Fjord
Travis was throwing mad shade at him all night lol I felt bad for the guy
That was Travis not Fjord. Kinda deserved the guy was kinda lame and role playing an obnoxious asskissing passive agressive beta. Not very interesting
@@pr9039 why blech
Came back to catch up on new episodes and thought I'd check out the comments for this episode, glad to see Bowlgate lives on. XD Almost reminds me how much I miss playing Cali. :(
OMG! Fancy seeing you in the comments!! Cali was one of my favorite guest characters, she's so striking and you were so much fun to watch.
i started watching high rollers a few episodes after this without realising you were on the show....i dont know how i did that
It would be really cool though if you turned out to have ill intents concerning the bowl. That would have been awesome! I wish guests would betray them sometimes. They need to be a little more cautious as a group
When you just looked and said "fireball", the party reaction was priceless! Awesome job and I will definitely be checking out your content!
We'll have to hint to them for you to come back :)
Sam's "Caleb also likes to burn his friends"-joke went totally under-appreciated because only he and Marisha were there for the backstory. XD
Actually, on talks machina it's revealed that he encouraged everyone to watch that part of the episode later that week, so all the players know what happened in his backstory, only the characters don't know the info.
@@nite012 LMFAO it makes sense why travis and marisha highfived this episode when beau asked caleb to say fire one more time and kiri kept repeating the word over and over
@@nite012 That's... actually disappointing. What benefit is there of them knowing if their characters don't? None, except for metagaming. Why agree to clear the table to just backtrack on it later? Does he also encourage them all to watch their solo encounters with him?
@@Ailieorz i think it was only for caleb's backstory. liam said in talks that it'll be quite redundant to relay the entire story in-game to the other characters (esp if it'll happen with one or two characters at a time again) and would disrupt the flow of the game. that's why he encouraged the others to watch it. he also kinda regretted not seeing the other cast members' reactions at the table but was grateful that matt agreed with the experiment.
@@Ailieorz they don’t really metagame that much. Sometimes they do slightly just to get the plot moving and so they don’t repeat the same thing again.
"If he dies we can get the money back" - Yasha with the SENSIBLE take!
@@chriscaruso8876 Reading that only has me thinking how fucked up that is.
@@thewastedwanderer5787 Yeah especially since we all know what Jester's mom's occupation is. Prostitutes are people too, dammit
@@deathbykonami5487 And the real life violence that sex workers have to face
@@katieroberts7012 I am happy that where I live, with legal prostitution, if there is any violence the violent party gets arrested, and not the sex worker.
sad thing is a lot od brothels closed down over the pandemic, but there will be new ones .
i sound like I go to brothels huh... don't have the money for it.
@@chriscaruso8876 @FBI
Kiri tried to stab the fog but mist.
I took 1d8 physic damage
TheAftermath deserves to be hit with a mind spike.
Also: "mist" means "damn" in german. Sure Caleb would appreciate
@@xXxa3gisxXx I think caleb and nott are both satisfied with this pun
I hate you, it's perfect
I’m 100% on board with showing the HP of each character during battles. The crew at CR is killing it during the holidays!
They uploaded the Project Alpha version. The G&S pay site that shut down shortly after the split. The HP trackers are only available only available on the live streams in 2019
@@krisbarski4226 They didn't really do a good job of it though XD The numbers were wrong almost all the time, and the weird notifications and comments on the side were just hilariously weird sometimes. Cool concept, but execution was not so great. Obviously understand that it's hard to know how much they gained from short rest and stuff, they don't exactly state that shit out loud.
I really like how they change the characters pictures when they're heavily injured, as well! It makes the entire thing feel more real.
@@aringrogan6250 agreed it's a real step up from the geek n sundry part of the play through
The flashing was distracting tho. Otherwise super neat.
Matt about Mark: "He is like my brother from another mother".
Me: "He is probably exaggerating because the guy is also a DM. They may be just good friends."
Mark describing a Fireball: "this green flame magic COALESCES"
Me: "Definitely his brother from another mother!"
I believe the actual quote was "Brother from another Motherland", your point is still valid, not trying to say anything other, just felt an urge to clarify.
Pff.
@@davidbergfors6820 oh, yes, ty sir.
Mark's Levitate clutch attempt at 2:06:10 is so smart. I love how excited Matt gets at it. Like an old master getting surprised by some young person's new trick. d&d is so cool
at 4:10:09, the way liam delivered the line, "beauregard, what if she had been lying to us?" hurt me so much. he plays caleb so heartbreakingly well
PREACH.
It’s because Liam IS Caleb. He’s one of the few actors who truly BECOME their character
@@justinmorlock4281 All the actors at the table become their characters
@@deathbykonami5487 Yeah, Marisha does become Beau, to the point that there are a few people who can't tell that the dumb stuff Beau does is not Marisha's own personality
@@katieroberts7012 yes, that's probably true. I still don't get why she decided for Beau to be a character like this. I was close to discountinuing watching this not only once because of Beau. And I'm not even an inch through yet :D
everyone: wailing on caleb for being cautious
cali: ‘no i completely get it it’s important to double check. he’s cool’
Yea, episodes like this make me wanna cringe.
Especially Beau, beaus always the worst offeneder
Cleo King beau sux. She tries to get in on literally every convo.
@@wenbluepirate3954 what is the r-word?
@@xadielplasencia3674 im guessing the slur used in the late 1900s targeted towards people with autism
also, im pretty sure youtube does not delete comments. ive seen plenty with all the profanities. I wont use this particular one since i have a good friend with autism and he said its very offensive and i dont feel comfortable typing it out even here
Caleb was absolutely right to be cautious with this, but I was disappointed he didn't figured out to use the Mage Judge on this! Before they started a quarrel I was already cringing they are still not getting it. And as their silly fight got worse in words I was just sitting with heavy facepalm, cringing, saying "Wow, Caleb, Mr Wizard with 20 INT can't add 2 with 2 to make 4" :( First time I was disappointed with Caleb even that he was totally right to be cautious.
DnD Beyond: we made you into an 80's cartoon, isn't that cool!
The party and Matt: **openly sobbing**
Wouldn't it be cool if they made it into an actual TV show!!
Edited, Feb 2023: That was an ironic comment, I was referring to TLoVM.
@@JennyDolfen I'm sure people will petition The Mighty Nein show soon enough
@@nightwalker174 I get the feeling they will want to finish Vox Machina first, but it would be cool if they alternated year to year. Like one year is a new season of VM, and next year is another season for M9
@@stingerjohnny9951 Meh, would be hard to maintain viewership, having to wait for a whole season of some other storyline. The next VM cycle is Chroma Conclave, and then the Vecna arc. They'll catch up soon enough.
I hope they use a version of this cartoon for the opening credits when they do M9
@@eyflfla fair points, and I’m aware I’m looking at this from the bias of one who knows both stories, just thought it would be a cool concept.
I can’t wait for some of the later VM story shit to come along?
Who ever is typing up the little notes that show up is killing it this episode. “Fjord’s HP: there isn’t any” and “Magnets: how do they work?” Killed me
A hero would leave a time stamp for these wonderful sounding moments.
@@demonzabrak heroes also just watch it for themselves.
@@demonzabrak 3:44:25 for the magnet incident, 3:45:05 for the note! I normally listen while doing other things so I like having timestamps too :)
but also the "Hey you dead person is a necessary verbal component, FYI" killed me at like 1:42 or something
Fjord’s HP is at 3:29:37
Caleb: "Why are you booing me? I'm right!"
@The Infinity Sock that's usually a good way to tell when you're surrounded by idiots or assholes
@@anarchosnowflakist786 Sometimes both, sometimes at the same time. Its not mutually exclusive, you know.
@@anarchosnowflakist786 A perfect description of The Mighty Nein
@The Infinity Sock Damn dude truth
@The Infinity Sock ❤Mollymauk💕 was w/ him, but was waiting for rest of group to speak up b4 acting.
CritRoleStats Time Stamps for Kiri parts!
(0:12:43) (like Fjord) It’s sharp!
(0:17:30) (like Jester) A bird!
(0:17:33) (like Jester) She walks around.
(0:17:40) (like Cali) Hello?
(0:19:14) (like Jester) Your underwear?
(0:25:15) (like Nott) Welcome to The Mighty Nein!
(0:25:28) (like Cali) Hello, Kiri! I’m Cali!
(0:25:35) (like Cali) You’re Kiri.
(0:26:37) *growls like crocodile*
(0:27:12) (like Frumpkin) *purrs*
(0:29:03) (like Jester) This is Kiri!
(0:33:04) (like Jester) Welcome to the Mighty Nein!
(0:37:01) (like Jester) There’s lots of creatures around that could hurt.
(0:39:27) (like Cali) Fire! Fire! Fire! Fire!
(0:39:37) (like Jester) Wrapped around his weenie.
(0:42:28) (like Cali) MEE-ster Fjord!
(0:56:32) *imitates windchime*
(1:18:35) (like Fjord) You’re a fan of pie.
(1:22:00) (like Nott) You’re a cultist?
(1:26:34) (like Nott) It’s me, Bren!
(1:41:22) (like Jester) I’ve never done this before!
(1:41:28) (like Jester) Be careful.
(1:44:17) (like Cali) If it bleeds, we can kill it.
(2:04:18) (like Beau) F***!
(2:56:26) (like Cali) I killed people.
(2:56:35) (like Jester) Kiri. Don’t. Move. Unless something chases you. Right.
(3:58:37) (like Cali) I killed people!
(4:03:20) (like Jester) I’m so proud of you!
Thank you!
Blessed timestamps
Didn't know I needed this until I saw this comment
Sorry but like when she says f*ck it’s like jester not beau because that’s what is says in captions
you're doing lord's work thank you
Yeah, I gotta agree with some of the other comments; I feel like Caleb being apprehensive in returning this Godly item to a complete stranger was the right thing to do. Beau and Jester flaming him left me a bit salty.
rheyruwu oh, absolutely. “Here’s the nuke you were looking for, random person!”
Even Calianna was defending him so you know who was in the wrong here
The problem is that your viewing these actions as "right" or "wrong"
@@dominiquejaxkson1336 Nah just common sense lmao
Dominique Jaxkson It was a pretty right or wrong situation
28:37 Caleb’s low-key panic attack when Nott says her name is Bren…. god Liam is so good
Do you suppose Liam had told Sam about the name Bren before that scene?
@@joshhaworth2155 Sam talks about it in the campaign wrap-up around 30 minutes in
Also a testament to their friendship, because I think Sam just panicked and used the first letters of Veth's last name (a couple episodes back he gave Veth as a fake name for Nott too) but because they're so close they come up with similar things like for names
@@joshhaworth2155 They talk about this in the Talks Machina for Campaign 2 Episode 49
@@joshhaworth2155 They didn't, it was just a coincidence, but boy oh boy what a dramatic one
Fjord: "I go unconcious"
Everyone: "Aaawww..."
Fjord: "I use my relentless endurance"
Everyone: Yaaaaaaayyy!"
Matt messed up too. Fjord said he was holding his spell to attack and it came into vision like immediately and didn't mention it
@@garrettdaugherty9082 I mean come on, it's totally Travis' responsibility to remember the spell he held literally one minute ago. When the monsters attacked Fjord he didn't even react like "But wait I was holding my Eldritch Blast" or something. Matt already has enough on his plate as it is.
@@rickrack4325 Fair enough
@@garrettdaugherty9082 Tbf he said the trigger was them leaving the spell's radius
Why are people acting so agressively to Caleb? Checking that an absolute stranger with a very strong desire for a very powerful object is to be trusted sounds exactly the right thing to do. He didn't even word it badly saying that he hopes she is telling the truth he just wants to check. Didn't understand that at all
Yeah that really salted me out.
I was thinking the same thing. Beau is giving him shit while she doesn't even understand what could have happened if Cali DID have evil intentions. I didn't expect a 3rd level Dispel Magic to work on it though haha.
Because you never get to control what others want, maaaaan!
Incredibly annoying.
She says as she literally wrestles control of the bowl away from him. One of Marisha's most annoying nights in a long time. Her freaking out at Matt for not letting her use her bonus action unarmed attack to fling a fishman corpse into a ball of total darkness as a ranged attack was particularly bewildering.
A good chunk of the inner conflict of the group has been everyone (especially Bue) getting on Caleb's case I feel.
“Liam likes to burn his friends”
“Caleb also likes to burn his friends”
YIKES
I love those notes that come up on the screen, the deadpan sarcasm of it is amazing. “Fjord’s HP: he doesn’t have any.”
Cali: is it flammable mr. Creepy pervert.
Verbron: First off I resent that.
Cali: Do you?
Verbron: shakes his head nah..
Lol
Defenetly a halrious highlight
Febron
I love how you can tell what NPC Matt is playing simply by the mannerisms he has like when he switches to Kiri he starts looking around jerkily and bobbing his head before he even says anything
nAmE'S zOrTh 🤪
*gently clasps his vest together* "My little Saphire" 🥰
“Hey you dead person” is the required verbal component FYI.
I love whoever makes those messages.
*FJORD'S HP* he doesn't have any. lol
Omg I just saw that and actually laughed out loud. So awesome.
*Magnets* how do they work?
they're dumb and obnoxious
@@moofy69 you must be fun at parties
Cali was so amazing. Her standing up for Caleb and after he walked away giving the scroll to Nott to give it to Caleb later and not going into Caleb's personal space.
Cali really annoyed me. But that part was a good gesture/roleplay.
@@Red_Devil_2011I found the character endearing. What bothered you about her so much?
@@essexfuzzpeople want to hate on high rollers. I thought the character was hilarious.
Time stamp?
4.14.00 or so
Cali: "Cats don't like me"
Caleb: "I take a step and a half away from Cali"
And this is why Caleb really wanted to be sure Cali was telling the truth at the end
Caleb is a cat confirmed.
*Caleb will remember that*
1:26:52 Calli: "I'm going to stand closer to "Bren".."
Caleb: Visibly flinches
Love how Matt is committed to play the sleazy and creepy Febron.
I think you mean "was committed"
Febron is *melted* and has been whisked away by a poison-spewing troll. He's not talking much anymore
Would have broken his hands a long time ago
They've changed so many rules to make the game more fun, but somehow "Cats don't have dark vision" is where they draw the line. lol
But they do, don't they? Or is it only certain species...because big cats hunt at night, but I think even housecats see in the dark.
@@DarkDecimus Not according to the rules of raw 5e
@@DarkDecimus IRL cats have really good vision on darkness, but Caleb cat exist inside D&D and there cats don't have dark vision.
But then they're not cats! Cats can see in the dark (well they need a sliver of light to see, so not 100% darkness)
Darkvision is more of a magical thing- being able to see with no light. Cats can see well with low light conditions just not absolute darkness, which is what darkvision does
25:30 Can we just appreciate how insanely accurate Matt's voice match was to Mark Hulmes? The cadence and pitch were almost exact.
I am following High Rollers, and catching up on Critical Roll, so funny how different Mark is as a player...
It blows my mind
Ashley: "Is Kiri Down here?"
Matt: "Yeah shes down in the corner."
Ashley: "Ffffffffff She better not die."
This made me laugh out loud
Yasha one episode ago: I don't trust her...she's weird.
Ashley now: SHE BETTER NOT DIE!
Pretty sure Kiri is an excuse for Matt to start impersonating and practicing his Jester for when Laura goes on maternity leave... quite clever.
1:30 Critical Role anime intro
3:30 ONE MORE TIME
9:50 Episode Starts
14:55 The ninth appears
17:55 Fjord’s daughter
19:15 What kind of bowl?
25:30 An hour is a long time
29:50 Vebron is into the reverse Trogdor
31:55 The Might Nein release form (fanart?)
35:40 Fjord’s dad joke
39:20 Wrecking Caleb
41:55 The arcane knowledge of pronunciation
43:20 Caleb makes a joke
50:15 That’s Dr. Creepypervert to you
1:04:20 Classic Salty Pete maneuver
1:26:15 This is how Travis holds children
1:38:50 Choosing the right corpse
1:41:25 “Hey dead person…”
1:45:15 OH GOD, NOW WE’RE FIGHTING
1:53:45 40 feet trolls deep
1:57:50 Make a regret save
2:06:05 HDYWT Save The Day
2:09:10 Sam’s devastating jokes
2:17:20 “We’ll be idiots if we want to”
2:22:40 Break Starts and ends
2:23:50 Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal
2:25:30 Sam roasts Caleb
2:35:20 Nott Bren
2:38:00 Tugging that branch
2:53:30 Visual aid
2:59:15 Somehow the only Thor: Ragnorock reference
3:03:00 Battle Begins
3:20:00 Enlarged Beau is best Beau
3:24:45 The Snitch attempts to flee Matt
3:39:35 HDYWTDT
4:04:00 Bowl games
4:14:15 The story hooks are unleashed
Holy crap this buried deep!
thank you!
Bump for timestamps! ❤
Ok...seriously, when they do the M9 intro...
bump
I love the look on Ashley's face to Jester, when she starts to cast talk with the dead, one thing that she did many times as Pike, like, "My little girl is learning". Is so sweet. 1:41:05
Eh, judging by how Ashley played Pike she probably doesn't even remember that was a thing she did.
I feel like every single person with a previous class in someone else is doing that lol
Travis to Ashley, Liam to Sam, Ashley to Laura. It's wonderful t watch
@@golfshores97 ^ was coming here to say this
Props to Matt for dealing with 8 insane characters, playing two NPC's, and DMing simultaneously
The Magnificent Mercer!
That's that veteran instinct for ya
1:55:55 "Febron, by the way? *Fuckin' DEAD* "
Best part of this video, the way he said it is hilarious
Not a big loss
@@nathanmigneault8542 was playing on Xbox live with a British dude and someone else (not memorable) and we’re in the competitive playlist of the game and we lost 2 games and won 1 the third guy who’s been dragging the entire session leaves without saying anything. I just say “welp dude left” British dude in the most sarcastic dry voice “ah a great loss” had me dying. But that’s my favorite way to express that nowadays 😂 don’t even know why it cracks me up so much.
Laura Bailey: Oh no don't pick up Beau.
Matt: What a great idea.
The cardinal sin of dnd players is saying things aloud.
58:45
Matt: The material of the chime isn't wood, it's bones. And the twine is dried sinew.
M9, disgusted: oh god
Ashley smiling and nodding: cool!!
and many episodes later, that smile makes even more sense xD
That legit gave me blair witch vibes, just what the hell.
Haha, I'm so glad you pointed that out: thanks! I love glimpses of this side of Ashley. Though I'm not sure anything can match her antics in Liam's Quest 3: Full Circle.
It's honestly absurd that cats don't have dark vision
It is pretty strange now that you mention it. I wonder why Wizards of the Coast didn’t give cats dark vision. 🤔
@@siobhanherbstritt6063 I'm convinced who ever made that call has never met a cat 😂
@@miguelsuarez-solis5027 they probably thought “Cats can see in the dark? They must be exaggerating! Let’s just give cats advantage on perception checks!” 😂
They had low light vision in 3rd ed, but that dosn't exist in 5th?
@@Zahnzak if you look at the stat block they don't. It's like that forgot
28:38 "What's your name?"
Nott: Bren
Caleb: *Stares down Nott in shocked horror/anger for several moments.*
Nott: shurgs in confusion
Me who is watching this the second time: 😲
Yeah, listening to that i had to go back and watch. It is so subtle, i am glad they talked about it. He literally just took "bren" from "brenado", i mean "brenatto"
@@danielknapp159I don't get it lol.. Can you remind me so I don't need to search thru the episode?
@@moxxivoxxi7276 are up to date on the rest of campaign 2? Because caleb's real first name is bren, and nott's real last name is Bernado.
@@danielknapp159 hey thanks for replying! No this is my first run thru and I'm hardcore binging it so all the episodes are kinda merging together and sometimes little details tend to get lost.. Lol thanks for helping!
@@danielknapp159 *Brenatto. I wouldnt normally correct you on the spelling, but its actually important this time because Veth Brenatto is an anagram for "Nott The Brave".
4:04:00 Poor Caleb, he was totally right on wanting to be cautious before giving the bowl to Cali.
i hate how beau trys to control caleb and tries to use big quotes and tries to act so high and mighty like only she can determine what is good, idk why marishas characters try to act like everything is so high and mighty but dont ever figure anything out
I like Marisha but her charactwrs are always so unhinged. Beauregard is the worst so far. Its fine i guess, playing an unlikabke character is part of the story. Every team needs one@natescott1840
Clear through-line to Keyleth's self-unaware self-righteous indignity. Just throwing big clueless haymakers. I don't think it's "just acting".
she fixes herself the very next episode but she had a whole week to think about it. This is like 3rd time she treats Caleb like shit. Caleb was really unfortunate to share his sevret with her of all people. I know some spoilers and BE CAREFUL HERE:
I have no idea how she ends up being with Yasha who is this sweet giant emo angel. I hope it ends up being just sex and Yashafinds someone better.
And I like Marisha, her Keyleth was okay, aside from still sucking at the leader thing after so much shit. Beauregard is who i hate, not Marisha. RP with bits of annoying parts of Marisha just created this monster, i really hope it gets better, for campagin 3 too@@csn583
@@csn583 That's called being parasocial.
I love the side chat scroll."Fjord hp: He doesn't have any."
and "Beauregard hp: "We know it's still wrong it's chat's fault."
Magnets 🧲 How do they work lol
My personal favorite: morning people: why critical hits were invented.
51:15
Mark: “can I have like a d6, anyone?”
Everyone: *here is my entire collection*
Matt's imitation skills are absolutely incredible.... listening without watching and I keep having to stop and look at the captions to see that it is Kiri talking.
Chirp chirp.
Let’s not bring up the jester impression from when Laura was absent...
Alexander Thompson I think that was because he was more of trying to get the personality not the voice and failed completely or he was messing with her
@@devonhalford5522 - Interesting point. Or maybe it helps Matt a lot to have just heard the original and mimic it, rather than trying to dial in the accent from scratch for new word he didn't just hear in Laura's Jester accent.
You must be an old person 😭😘 namaste
"You can't use your trauma as an excuse to control other people," says Beau using her trauma as an excuse to control Caleb.
yeah, not sure if that was just lost on Marisha, or its just that she's acting that beau is just kind of like that in general. It does make sense for her character to act like that, creating a bit of drama and what not, makes sense, its not like they have deep rooted connections like the first campaign, they are a bunch of misfits who have only known each other for like a month at this point.
@@lobear3074 I suspect its acting :D She pretty much immediately admits to Fjord she was in the wrong. It's possible she got lost in the character, but that is still acting in its own way I suppose.
She’s amazing at playing the insufferable character not gonna lie
@@SavedByFaith9981 she is the worst character of the campaign, it's so cringe and forced, her tryhard edgyness is so stupid.
I am so glad I am not the only one who thinks this! @@salva2387
39:25 beau: "say fire one more time"
cali: "fire"
beau: [highfives fjord]
caleb: [slowly turns around to glare at beau as kiri starts to repeat "fire" over and over again]
Yasha: Does her thing at the end
Stormlord: Good job. Take that you 5 headed scaly bastard!
So you've got a character who is descended from a specifically evil kind of dragon. And they have a tendency to be overwhelmed by that draconic nature. And they admit to having done some seriously evil shit as part of a cult dedicated to one of the great forces of evil in the world who is also draconic.
Sure let's give them the bowl without checking their intentions. You know the bowl. The one that lets you commune with said evil draconic god when you fill it with blood. The evil bowl. The bowl specifically for evil. That bowl.
That really pissed me off. No one but Caleb and Nott see an issue with that and even go as far as to scold him for it. What a bunch of morons.
@@naturalone6529 I had to stop the video and take a breather. I got so mad at them for railing him about this. He didn't even say she couldn't have it. He literally just wanted them to take some time to check her intentions. Then on top of that, Beau gives him some bizarre and seemingly unrelated rant about his trauma? Jester annoyed me, but at least her comments made sense thematically. Idk, I just had to step away for a bit. Yikes.
@@forkysporky7073 Totally. This was probably the most controversial episode in terms of sides. Liam didn't want a repeat of Arkhan to happen.
Kuzcos Poison! The Poison for Kuzco! That Poison!
The bowl
The bowl for evil
The bowl designed specifically for evil
Evils bowl
I'll see myself out
Fjord's HP:
"He doesn't have any."
caleb: i'm awkward, i don't like people, people don't like me
also caleb: hello newcomer i'll help you integrate yourself into the group oh you're having a hard time? here's my literal emotional support cat for you hope it helps love you
D E V E L O P M E N T
Well EVERYONE loves Kiri immediately
g r o w t h
poor guy hates everyone but hes empathetic to a fault
If thats not social anxiety in a nutshell i dont know what is
The similarities between Caleb and Calis backstory are insane. The "I helped kill people, I helped torture people, I have to make sure they can't do this to anyone ever again" is so similar to Calebs words.
The fact that they actually talked like 5 straight minutes right next to their enemies and therefore lost the surprise attack LITERALLY blows my mind
The players do this all the time. Matt is a very forgiving GM.
I wanted to shake them 🙃
I was losing my mind at that point, they spent precious ambush time debating if Fjord is half fish then got surprise when they lost the surprise attack.
@@DM-zh2ktultimately it’s not a very combat focused show, and since they are all actors I feel like they exceed at the talking part anyway. Though I agree sometimes the game mechanic mistakes can be annoying. They have gotten better at it in some ways
Actually so pissed lmao
Everyone: "Lets do something different with the next Campaign"
Liam and Sam: "Ok, We made characters that wouldn't have fallen for Arkhans Betrayal that easily"
Everyone Else: "HOW DARE YOU"
IKR "how dare you make the characters with backgrounds of being betrayed untrusting! "but i guess that goes for beau being untrusting with people she cares about too
@@mac-jf5dd yeah, i love how Marisha's allowed to hate everyone she encounters and be a complete shithead to every person on the planet, but Liam gets yelled at and berated by the entire fucking party for not wanting to return a powerful magical artifact to a complete stranger. Marisha and Laura were very out of line with that shit and it pissed me off
@@Albatross0913 YES!! thank you. It was very hard to listen to when the entire time I was like Beau is an ass to literally every single person she encounters but Caleb is "cautious" and they jump all over him....
@@Albatross0913 Y'all. if two characters in a tv show, didn't get along would you blame the actors? just because a character interaction isn't nice and feel good doesn't make it bad.
@@mac-jf5dd yeah, but beau is supposed to not be that trusting of a character, so it isn't the character.
Pros to Calebs Plan:
-Gets to make sure that they're not passing off a powerful artifact to a cultist of a Betrayer God
-Low effort, fairly non-intrusive
Cons:
-None
I actually got so pissed at that fucking monk. Everyone agreed with Caleb's plan. Including fucking Cali. INCLUDING CALI AND Beau fucking ruined it. There is literally zero downside to casting a truth spell. Fucking baeu.
@@dylangaeta6462 I agree with this so much. The worst part was after Celab said "What happens if she was lying", and she responds with "Well we will learn the lesson for next time". Its like, what lesson? To make sure people aren't lying!
No disrespect to the players though. Beau is an asshole & she is being played correctly.
@@BG-ok4ov I dont think Liam was hurt. Sure Caleb was, but everyone in this game are close friends with each other & know that just because Beau is an asshole doesn't mean Marisha is or that Liam thinks she is. Its like was Liam upset at Travis for Fjord threatening Caleb with a sword? No. It's a game of make believe they all play together as friends and are very good actors.
@@dylangaeta6462 Liam was visibly uncomfortable after that scene that she made. It seems like she is playing that character to channel out real anger, because that was actually just so rude to get in his face like that. And the holding her hand above her head for the duration to rub it in was so childish and petty. You can tell a story without having to actually make people uncomfortable and by being genuinely rude.
@@NoahSBX Have you seen how Liam acts when anyone talks to Caleb, he makes himself smaller & awkward. No one is actually hurt out of game by these. Beau is an asshole & Celab is an extreme introvert but that doesn't mean the players are.
People need to stop trying to make in-game choices mean out of game drama. Literally watch the after show's for this campaign and you can see how they all love how their characters interact with each other.
God I hope Matt really plays into the party's blind trust for "friendly" characters in future episodes to teach them a lesson. Calebs idea was solidly reasonable. Their argument against it was... feels before reals for someone they don't even know? C'mon. I was desperately hoping that Cali was secretly evil... lol
This aged well...
This isn't a situation of blind trust in NPCs based naivety like Clarota, or blind trust like the Trickfoots. This is a guest PC with no reason to be distrusted, other than her seeking a magical object; something Caleb is guilty of himself. That doesn't automatically presume she wants it for nefarious purposes. Not everyone on a personal quest outside the objectives of the main party is secretly evil, or placed in the world just to be a "gotcha" trap for the party.
Caleb projecting his own obsession over magic to distrust someone else is pretty harmful, especially if that behavior cuts off diplomatic solutions in future encounters against actual NPCs, who would probably consider the mere suggestion of magical coercion an act of aggression. That could just as easily be used as a lesson teaching opportunity by the DM.
Her mentioning being raised by Tiamat's cult was probably an intentional Red Herring made by Mark to remind the players of the betrayal at the end of the last campaign. So who knows if that just put Liam off or what.
Either way, it's not up Caleb to be the magic police. Being suspicious of everyone and approaching every situation with "let's cast magic on them and force them to tell us the truth" is pretty shitty. He could have just asked Matt if he could roll insight to determine if Caleb believed if Calianna was telling the truth or not. That's a 10-20 second question to the DM that would yield the same results as dramatically coercing the party to take a rest, just so he can have his healer waste a spell unnecessarily.
There is a difference between blindly trusting someone just because they are nice, and not being a dick to somebody just because they are going about their own business that you are inserting yourself into. Beau and Jester have a right as their own characters to tell Caleb it isn't his business. Beau herself said the hypothetical "then she fucking lied to us, and we take that and we learn that as a lessen for later on." No need for the DM to concoct some punishment for an "unlearned lessen" when there was no lessen to learn from.
My point is this, there are two kinds of people: Those who communicate with others and only distrust them with probable cause; and beholders who think everyone is trying to rob them or kill them. Caleb was being a beholder here, and Beau recognized that it was unlikely Calianna was lying. Even with role playing, someones takeaway shouldn't be "boy, we shouldn't have trusted that person who did us no wrong. Now we are going to get back stabbed in the future as punishment for not blindly distrusting everyone."
@@ninboy01 caleb did nothing wrong
@@ninboy01 even though it is indeed a shitty, that's what having caution is about. He have already miss read people before, so if he have the option to magic verify someone intention over a device used to talk to an evil ancient entity aka a betrayer god, mother of dragons, that's the actual most cautious play. Cali herself agreeded with it still. "Mr Caleb seems to be the only one that understands how powerful this device is"
@@ninboy01
"This is a guest PC with no reason to bs distrusted"
Yeah, the metagaming is part of the problem.
"other than wanting a magical item"
And being half evil dragon, and being part of a death cult, and admitting to being naive and easily manipulated, and acting aggressive and yelling at a M9 member who didn't even do anything...
Definitely sounds to me like someone who should have sole possession of a relic used to commune with evil gods.
"Caleb projecting his own obsession over magic to distrust someone else is pretty harmful"
I haven't seen a single instance of Caleb projecting his issues on others despite Beau's repeated insistence otherwise.
"[NPCs] would probably find the mere suggestion of magical coercion aggressive"
I feel like you need proper in-game perspective. This isn't "but if I lend them my pen, they might steal it!" Yes, it's harmful to be that paranoid over petty things. This isn't petty. It's potentially apocalyptic. I feel like most people would practically beg for magic to be used if it could ensure they were trusted (as Cali herself does). A zone of truth (I believe that's what Caleb is referring to. He never got the chance to detail his plan) is not the same as a charm person spell, and I've never seen any negative consequences for using it the way Caleb was suggesting.
"it's not up to Caleb to be the magic police"
This has such "why do you want to save the galaxy?" "Because I'm one of the idiots who lives in it!" energy. Again, we're not arguing over a ham sandwich. We're arguing over nuclear launch codes. Handing over nuclear launch codes to someone you met half a day ago because "you have no reason to distrust them" is imbecilic. And he didn't say "let's never give this to her ever" he said "we have ways to make sure we can *trust* her. Not merely not distrust her."
It's interesting you're at all defensive of Beau's "then she fucking lied to us and we'll take that as a lesson for later on" given the fact that it horrifyingly undermines her entire point. What lesson would they take except to do exactly what Caleb suggests doing? And if they do have to learn that lesson they'd also have to stop an evil dragon god that is only a problem because of actions they took.
It really feels like you're ignoring the obvious context and focusing on minute subtext to justify Beau's actions and attack Caleb's.
29:26 I love how Travis gets excited and matt just winks back, what a bro moment I love it :D
Anyone know what Travis says to Matt at that moment?
What did he say?
I love this campaign, but I hate how Liam is constantly given shit for essentially good roleplaying. I mean Caleb and Nott are basically build for Doing the right THing in the end, but very reluctantly.
it wasnt even good roleplaying, it was just a generally good idea
Exactly
@@danny_decheeto8300 jb ks
And everyone else is roleplaying too
@@Jakecmuir You can see there is a Metagame Reaction to their actions at this point and also why this behavior stopped completely and kinda unnaturaly in later episodes.
I love how Knott and Jester get all motherly and yell at Fjord for carrying Kiri wrong 😅 straight up Momma Bears!
I must have replayed that whole interaction like 10 times it was so damn funny!
Liam/Caleb's reactions when Cali starts talking about being coerced into killing people at 2:26:50.
Sam's flask says "the bagel knows." Sam couldn't have known yet because Everything Everywhere All at Once wasn't out. but speaking to you from the tail end of 2022, yes, the bagel does indeed know.
Part elf, part human, part dragon
Sounds like it was a fun party
For the Dragon, at least
Definitely a bard in the family.
@@bretsheeley4034 i hope I have a bard at my table one day.
I *really* wanna give this a Like but there are 333 and I just can't, I'm sorry ...
At the beginning of the Campaign
Caleb & Nott: are constantly fighting alongside & helping the group
Group: not trusting them and calling them out every other day
Cali: is part of the group for like 10 hours
Caleb: maybe we should wait to give her this powerful thing until we're 100% sure of her intentions
Group: HOW FUCKING DARE YOU
Dude, this was so fucking dumb. I hated this.
This part stressed me out so badly. Caleb is trying to do everything the group asks, he didn't keep the bowl, he showed his friends, and they trust a stranger over him. Beau just find things to criticize him for and i think if it was real, and not players having to stay in a game, that Caleb and Nott would have left long ago.
@@laynasnow8550 Man I'm so glad other people are thinking what I'm thinking. Caleb has such a good plan for knowing this random person's true intentions and it'd take them 12 hours longer than just giving a super powerful, evil artifact to a random, possibly untrustworthy half-dragon lady. And the group (Beauregard mostly) just treat him as if he's being a horrible dirtbag... Idk what they were thinking when they sided with Calianna over Caleb there.
Also, props to Liam for playing it as he did. He responded as if he'd had undue dirt thrown at him for so long he was used to it and to the world disregarding him. I love how he plays Caleb. Also props to Calianna (sorry cant remember actor name) for standing up for him too.
@@laynasnow8550 yeaaa it was pretty clear to me that in one of the earlier episodes that caleb and knott stayted ONLY for the sake of the game. Liam knew that caleb wouldnt actually have stayed but since he is such a great player, made it work.
THANK YOU
like holy shit caleb and knott really havent done a single thing to deserve so much distrust. They are the only ones being singled out and being forced to constantly prove themselves.
i mean shit, fjord has unexplained dark powers and an oblivious mystery with his powers, same for molly. Yasha just up and leaves for days on end and also has a foggy past and is some sort of divine creature, beau hides literally everything about herself, including joining some secret organization that very clearly are influencing the choices she makes.
But no, lets not trust the only two people who keep doing what they can to prove themselves.
and for baeu to even admit that being lied to would have to be a lesson to learn in the same breath of chastising caleb for trying to apply that lesson already is just mind numbingly aggravating.
new critter here and i love this format and the little notes that come up especially : " fjords hp. *_he doesnt have any_* " like damn
Just Yasha, low-key saving the world from Tiamat.
Well, she couldnt save us from the cordecps fungus...but a ancient divine pissed off dragon goddess? No problem.
Liam "What is she lied to us?"
Marisha "Then she lied to us, and we learned lesson for the future"
... Like, the lesson to not blindly trust someone and that there is nor harm in being cautious especially that you have a Zone of truth spell? (Which costs you nothing)
That same lesson you don't need to learn because you are already applying the moral of the lesson right now by double checking Cali?
No, see, Caleb was "trying to control the situation" which is completely unimaginable so instead Beau took the bowl from him and controlled the situation. It doesn't matter that they could take 12 hours to make sure it wasn't going to cause evil, mayhem, and deaths across Exandria as the Scaled Tyrant who's bent on the destruction of most mortal races is empowered, Caleb can't "take control of situations." Only Beau can do that.
And why not just take a gigantic risk with an unknown person who has evil dragon blood running through their veins that literally moments before lost control and snarled and threatened Beau? When someone snaps at me, like a rapid dog for instance, I immediately trust them. We can always just run around Exandria trying to stop the Cult of the Caustic Heart AFTER their evil plans came to fruition and they killed potentially hundreds of people and destroyed civilization... why bother taking 12 whole hours. Aint nobody got time for that!
Easily the dumbest and most cringe worthy moment of the series and it's all based off of Marisha using out of character influences to dictate Beau's actions... or Beau is just completely oblivious to literally everything that led up to that point.
I totally agree. She's talking about learning a lesson about something he's informing her about.
I'ts like a teenager beeing told by their parents that something clearly could go wrong based on their knowledge and reason and still choosing to go on with it.
It's immature behaviour that I do not think meets the description of who her character should be. Poor character playing, I think. She seems to kind of be inconsistent in many moments, such as annoying Caleb at the libraty to leave ASAP because she is bored (after hearing his back story!).
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@@GoodSteve123 Yea Marisha is probably my least favorite of the whole group. She constantly seems to try to make things about her. She enjoys being the center of attention.
@@kursdragon See campaign 1: any arguments between keyleth and percy... or worse yet, Keyleth vs Raishan. Knuckle-dragging discourse at it's finest.
Caleb: and what if we're wrong
Beau: then we learn from the mistake
How about we don't make the mistake to learn from?
It absolutely blew my fucking mind how being CAREFUL with a potential fucking doomsday relic was somehow cause for a completely overblown fucking character attack from Bo. Good god, I disliked her character up to this point because of her abrasiveness but honestly I think this pushed her into genuine dislike territory, which feels very odd to me considering I'm just relaxing and killing time watching people play DnD O.o I mean yea, sure, fuck it. Let's just unleash armageddon instead of just simply casting a spell and maybe NOT unleashing armageddon lol
Caleb already learned from that mistake. That's why he doesn't want to make it again
@@M0r7r3d0r Then as a fellow person who has been brainwashed he should have at least cut her a bit of sympathy just all I have to say.
@@itzplant3196 what part of what he suggested would have been altered by an increased amount of sympathy? The point was a confirmation of motivation. Beau was supporting blind trust and faith in absolute ignorance.
*Pan over to Klarota the mindflayer* I suppose it's a mistake they'll make every campaign xd
Caleb: Tries to prevent the end of the world from an evil dragon god
Beauregard: "wHaT ThE heLL MAn?!?"
Cali: "He is doing the right thing"
Beau: "Nu-uH"
Beau is suppose to have high wisdom. You'd never know by the way the character is played.
jelle hofstede I think it all depends on how you role play it though. A wise character can be traditionally wise with low wisdom score. The ability scores are more tools for the game, the role play doesn’t have to be based on them.
@@vagueIdeals thank you, some one agrees with me
Keyleth had insanely high wisdom in the last campaign and Marisha did the exact same stuff with her. I honestly liked Beau until Marisha started doing the same thing as she would do with Keyleth.
@@Figgy5119 i completely agree with this.
Caleb: We should be extremely cautious handing over this instrument of world ending destruction
Everyone else: You're being unreasonable just hand the thing over
That exchange made me absurdly upset
Beaus response was literally so fucking stupid, it infuriated me
Absurd and frustrating, but probably it was as they were pressed for time since the episode was already 4h
100% agreed
The characters mostly aren't interested in saving the world. They don't want that burden.
Yeah.. also, the guest seemed really nice but I didn’t like Cali.
Beau instantly contradicting herself by saying "you don't get to be the authority of others and control the situation" meanwhile she forcefully takes the object from Caleb, and drags him away... physically taking control of the situation and being the authority of how Caleb behaves.
MMMmmmmmmyep.
Yep. Beau is my least liked character this campaign so far. Just an asshole for assholes sake. Keyleth was my least liked last campaign. Terrible decision after terrible decision and was always pissed every time something did not go her way. Her reaction, distrust and treatment of Kema, a paladin of a good and highly regarded god in the world and a friend of one of their most trusted friends and allies, Allura Visoren, in favor of an outcast denizen of the underdark nearly made me stop watching as it was just so out of place. It made me hate the character a lot and she continues to treat a lot of characters poorly over the campaign. To be honest I wish Marisha and Ashley (she is gone too much and to be honest does not add much of anything to the show when she is there) would be replaced by Will Friedle and Ashly Burch. Would have a vastly improved game and show as both of them are just better. I however know this will never happen but I can dream.
@@adarian If we are talking about replacing, Mary Elizabeth McGlynn and Joe Manganiello are also excellent choices.
@Fallstar they will never replace her for the fact that she deals with a lot of the behind the scenes stuff for the company as well as her being one of the few players who actually takes diligent notes.
wow this comment thread is harsh, but it's worth remembering that this is a group of best friends who had been playing dnd together and suddenly got the opportunity to live stream it and its accelerated since then. they would never replace anyone, just like you would never kick someone out of your party for not being entertaining enough. i'm also assuming that those of you insulting Marisha haven't gotten very far in the series, as Beau's character develops immensely in upcoming episodes and her asshole-ish actions are in-character. Marisha is a good roleplayer, which you'll see if you watch the one-shots. Keyleth and Beau are just assholes, but that doesn't mean Marisha is
"What appears to be. . . "
-Matt Mercer, every episode.
What appears to be
A Gaping Maw
In this space
With a dislocated jaw
I love how Beau and Fjord' avatars both look bloody and dirty and bruised when their hitpoints are almost down to zero, and then Caleb's looks dirty and messy even when his hit points are at his maximum.
he's our little Fuzzybeard MacGarbageman
I like that Matt punished the party for chit chatting in an enemy zone
He gave them way more time I would have. He was generous.
I was listening and thinking "they're gunna need a stealth check for whispering in the cavern for so long." A minute later: "Everyone make a stealth check."
The second day started bickering I was already annoyed, knowing that they were about to lose their ambush.
They deserved everything they got. Since they haven’t learned in the last 135+ episodes, it’s not like they’re going to learn from this either.
Maybe my biggest grip, next to just Mariya herself, with this group, is that they argue over a single plan instead of coming up with other plans and it just turns into a shitting-on-others-ideas fest.
Also, the troll that was stalking them throughout the swamp/bog eventually resulting in their paid guide dying.
I'm not sure why they chose to ignore the troll that was following them, especially after the DM even said, "it's waiting for a straggler to snag."
Like, at least have Nott shoot a few arrows at it to scare it off. The troll knew it couldn't fight a group of 9 people, something else Matt mentioned. It wasn't going to suddenly get aggressive and charge them. I know it was just a generic NPC that Matt planned to have targeted, but still. No intelligence with this lot of roleplayers.
They stopped to chat with a dead person when they had a guide and were right near their location.
I cant. this episode is just.... why? like, even Cali was on Calebs Side. I hope that look of frustration on Liams face was more Caleb but it looked like real frustration.
eh its both, though due to them being experienced actors, they are able to separate their frustration with the frustration of the character after the fact. It was an argument, and when you are in the argument you get heated, the important part is to be able to let that go once you step out of the character.
@@silversalmon9909 What argument? Where?
@@theobernardkleynhans6358 the argument between Beau and Caleb about what to do with the bowl.
Definitely would have been real frustration for me :P Making a logical deduction and having everyone tell you it was stupid and wrong and inconsiderate, and then have someone unload an entire insulting rant as they talk down to the character you made. Gracious, group conflicts are one thing but I'd be pretty sour for the rest of the session after that. Props to the whole group for being able to separate in-character and out-of-character during stuff like that.
@@aetherwise2159 As someone who loves VTM, being capable of separating yourself from in-character conflict is essential for a good session. Even if someone is being unreasonable, you should be able to put up with it in order to allow good roleplay to happen. Of course if something turns out to be hurtful, it can be debated while out of character.
Idk why everyone attacked Liam like that, like they didnt listen to what he was saying and they weren't thinking logically. Even yelled at him for thinking logically... like wtf I'd be pissed.
when was this? (I mean time)
This is a prime example of why I really don't like guests in the main campaign.
Everyone but Liam, and to a lesser extent Sam, was basically using metagaming as a way to welcome her into the group, and treating her differently than they would if she were an NPC.
'Mark is playing her, so she must be trustworthy'; nevermind these normally untrusting characters met her less than 12 hours earlier and have no reason to automatically trust her with such an evil object.
@@Aetheria60 maybe that's cuz she isn't and npc
@@emdm2220 The players know that, the characters don't. The same characters who question anyone and everything they encounter just blithely trust someone they just met, who has chromatic dragon ancestry, and who moments before displayed that heritage by turning on one of their own, with an artifact that allows someone to commune with one of the most evil of the betrayer gods (who also happens to be the mother of chromatic dragons), no questions asked.
@@Aetheria60 She has a trustworthy face
Cali: Please don’t blame him.
Beau: I don’t blame him.
Caleb: Press X to doubt.
"i dont blame him"
" i do think he means well"
then why tf are you blowing up and belittling him?????
@@Gimbii because Caleb unintentionally smashed her trigger button
@@Direwolf181 And she responds to that by yelling at him for responding to his own trigger button getting smashed - which I would argue he wasn't actually doing at all. Sigh. I like Marisha, but why does she always have to play annoying hypocrites?
@@NoriMori1992 it's kind of the point? Beau was in the wrong they both were. Caleb shouldn't have tried to force Calianna to stay against her will and inadvertently pushed Beau's trauma button and Beau was also in the wrong for how she reacted.
Neither of them are particularly good people at this point (Keep in mind Liam himself fully expected Caleb to go full evil eventually before Character development ht and Beau was stil extremely selfish)i but they do work things out. Plus Beau does grow out of her more selfish bratty nature
Plus I mean Liam and Marisha were clearly having a blast the entire time they were loving the drama
It did piss me the fuck off about how she was treating him, he was just taking precautions, and beau exploded on him, and belittled his history,and his intentions. He essentially understands that the bowl is relative to a nuke to a degree in it dangerous ability, and to be safe for the group and general existence, he wanted to verify Cali, but beau just decided fuck you, youre being shitty because youre projecting. When literally Cali herself then says no i fully understand why he did that, and hes pretty much rightfor doing it.
“We take that, and we learn that as a lesson for later on.”
He already learned the lesson once, Beau.
He was doing that LITERALLY because he learned it once.
She is undoubtedly the least likeable character/player in the group. 🤦♂️
@@chrisg8989
I mean, I don't dislike Beau, cause you know, this happened very early on in the story and everyone hasn't known each other much,.
They did grow into an unbreakable family later on and everyone grew into a better version of themselves.
I did think Beau was unreasonable in this episode, but overall, she is still an amazing character, just like everyone else.
@@chrisg8989 in Campaign 1 Marisha's character was indeed the least likeable for me. Beauregard in the beginning also didn't do it for me, but she became one of my favourites over time.
Beu is great on her own, but her antagonistic side about Caleb is getting really annoying, cause she goes really far with it, even if it means going against something she otherwise would probably do (like using the truth spell with someone they just met, just to be sure of their intentions).
I loved Cali for actually being the only smart person there beside Caleb and Nott, and agreeing with Caleb's choice and even defending him.
Yeah that whole interaction was absolutely stupid. I was kinda frustrated but humored with Nott for hiding the Bowl but then realized why he did it when I realized that Caleb would inspect it. It was the only wise thing to do. And as an ex-cultist/brainwashed person Caleb has some really hard earned wariness and wisdom about evil stuff and liars. As someone whose been a vagrant and has seen the hard sides of the streets he would naturally be untrusting. M9’s knee jerk over the top hatred of Caleb’s obviously wise decision was so hard to sit through. I do like how eventually in C3 Matt uses this collective naïveté to eff them over.
Besides that Beau’s use of platitudes and false wisdom bombs is so annoying. The “we’ll learn from that if it happens” line was infuriating. Tbh if I was playing Caleb I would have blown up on her and said “I DID learn from it. When I trusted a man who convinced me to murder my family”. Like shit, Beau, way to take Caleb’s trust in confiding in you and shit on it. Beau is trash. Still love M9 so far but they are hella dumb at times.
32:26
Cali: "U seem pretty nice"
Caleb: *visual confusion*
That reaction right after he is thankful for not being set on fire, then Caleb turns to Beau.
I love at 1:59:27 you can actually see Matt transition from DM to husband as he realizes this will kill Marisha's character. After a moment he then goes back to being impartial when her says "What are you doing Caleb?". Honestly never thought I'd get so into a show about DnD, but 80 hours deep and here we are.
it also seems like he starts fidgeting with his wedding ring too
Yeah he's had these little moments every time a character is legit looking like they're going to die. I still remember a moment in Campaign 1 where things were looking grim for Pike and his whole demeanor changed. Seems like a sweetheart of a guy
You can just see his heart drop when Caleb almost made a kill strike
Caleb’s expression when Nott says his name is Bren. Either Liam told Sam (which I doubt) or it’s just a crazy coincidence. Either way, it was a really great exchange between characters
I believe it was stated in a later Talks Machina that it was pure coincidence, and Liam for a moment thought Matt had told Sam some stuff about Caleb's past for whatever reason.
[Spoilers below]
Purely coincidence that their names were similar I mean. I know Sam was teasing us with part of Nott's halfling surname.
Came back to watch this part and I cracked up that Liam is just STARING for a solid minute XD like, it's kinda beautiful
Anyone got a timestamp?
@@clewslisa 28:29
@@Luinta thank you!
Caleb: "We should be cautious with this world ending artifact"
Cali: "I agree with Caleb"
Everyone else: "Wow Caleb, don't try to control other people's destinies you dickhead"
Do they ever talk about this kind of situation in the Talks Machina? Beau in particular had been hella antagonistic to Caleb early on
This upset me so much.
Everyone was upset Caleb wanted to make sure nothing evil can come from handing over this key to communicating with a power/evil being to a stranger they just met.
Clearly INT stats are very low for everyone especially Beau
First time watcher here. Does Beau improve as a character later on, cuz she is the most annoying character I've ever watched. And does everyone stop shitting on Caleb so much at some point cuz this is like the third time in the campaign Caleb took a group beating for no good reason. Cali kind of defending Caleb towards the end was sweet and seemed like damage control on Mark's part lol
@@leggo0116Marisha always does this, attempting to be the arbiter of good and dramatically ruining things whilst she thinks she’s holier than though. She did it many times in the first campaign and it gets grating very fast
What an idiotic take lmao@@smith549371
Quite frankly, I don't think Beau had any right to throw Caleb under the bus like that. Caleb told her what he did in secret with the trust that she wouldn't speak of it again, but she used his lows against him all because he was being cautious about the safety of the group. He doesn't really owe any trust to a stranger, especially in the situations they get into, and the danger of this item honestly is fully deserving of careful treatment. Relying on the words of a stranger isn't safe at all, so I think the team's hostility towards Caleb is completely uncalled for.
It also shows that he shouldn't have put his trust in Beau to begin with. If I were in Caleb's position, I would never tell Beau anything personal ever again because she's the kind of person who uses it against you.
I know! I was like this is crazy - Beau is saying well if we make mistake we learn from it. Caleb is trying to explain this bowl might be the medieval fantasy equivalent of the nuclear launch codes so maybe let's not hand them over to the suspiciously helpful stranger that popped in 10 hours ago
Beau is holier than thou and hypocritical.
Beaus kind of annoyed the hell out of me this whole campaign
She was mad about the fight with the troll is all I got out of it or she has been hit by invisible intellect devourer right beforehand.
Just hoping they eventually house rule that cats have darkvision, because that's ridiculous. It's not a balance thing either, since owl familiars have darkvision and a special flyby ability, so it would just make cats almost as good as owls... I'm sure this is a whole argument in the community, but mostly when I looked at familiars for my characters, I saw people house ruling to fix stuff like that.
"Yasha, I don't think even you'll be able to destroy this bowl.."
_Yasha absolutely obliterates bowl first try_
Having a magic dispel sword is pretty nice. One that can fuck up a damn near artifact....WOW.
she had the perfect item to do it with! I'm sure in some other scenario it would have taken a bit to solve this little mini-puzzle, especially if they had sold the blade.
::grumbles when he sees that same sword was used against M9 later::::
I’m just saying, Caleb is in the right. Remember the last time let a guest near a powerful artifact? Nothing personal, just business lol
Exactly what I was thinking. I’m watching Campaign 2 for the first time. I keep thinking, “Hey! The fucking Hand of Vecna is out there, on a necromancer barbarian, canonically, in their timeline currently, in their world.” The actors know that, and they try not to metagame, but come on! They know better than to trust guests with powerful, evil artifacts.
Caleb is also the guy who killed his parents, became crazy, and now wants to control time. Even if he was right, him keeping powerful magic shit is a complete cancel. It feels kinda like projection on the character part. He thinks no one with magic should attain powerful objects, cuz if it was him, he would fuck up for sure. Tbh, it's kinda of annoying, I hope he gets better at later episodes
Not for nuttin but Joe was easily one of the all time best guests and a SOLID player with a real understanding of of the game and the mechanics. Love to see him back at the table!
@@ladyhella7560 He's not projecting... he's literally just making sure a dangerous item doesn't get in the wrong hands. He knows people aren't inherently worthy of trust. That's what the whole group has been repeating since the beginning... that nobody is trustworthy, not even M9. But apparently a stranger who's a (former, as far as they know) cult member walking away with a magical nuke is fine?
1) They have made their insight check. They have no reason to overly suspect Cali.
2) They are not a heroic figures. Not their job - not their buisness.
3) Imagine being a guest player in someones campaign. You have literally one purpose for being here. A freaking goal of your life at this points. And then players start doing sh*t like this. Hiding the object of your search from you, stalling time (realistically you are not going to just take a long reast in that area without combat, and you are there for one session only). I would be totally pissed. Props for Cali's player for being as great as he as he was tho.
4)Zone of thruth is not even something you can do. It's something that Jester can do - and she was again that. So that's it, at this point you have even more reasons to stop. Enough.
Caleb and Nott: starting to act smart.
Rest of Mighty Nien: trying to do anything to stop them.
It's quite infuriating how much bias against Caleb and Nott. Caleb has to fight for every not related to identifying loot decision
I don't want to jump to conclusions but I'm getting the impression that Liam and Sam are the smartest people there....
@@blingwraith6951 Liam is seems smarter than others because he obviously reads all the d&d sources off camera, but his character's tendency to overdramatized self-criticism makes me sick. Sam is very good role-player, and his characters aren't very deep thinkers. Travis is very smart, but not really trying to bend the rules of the game, I really want to see him play smart guy, preferably sourserer or wizard. I think Taliesin is smartest there, but his chill character have no leader abilities, and he can't prove it.
P.S. It's only my opinion, there is no hate
Роман Дудин I think there is a difference between “smartest” and “most dnd experience”
@@theendicott2838 Smartest and most learned are synonyms. But you're right, there is slight difference. And non of them don't even try to play smart.
Роман Дудин “smartest” and “most learned” are literally NOT synonyms. At least in English. All that aside, I said “most experienced” which would also NOT be a synonym for “smartest”.
The look of terror on Matt's face as he explains how they almost killed his wife's character banishing him to the couch.
I really dont like how beau and jester didnt hear anything that Caleb had to say, he has been with them for weeks even longer than a stranger that they Just met, I am really salty especially with beau.
Agreed. She was just upset she wasnt consulted about it. But consulting the group would have been a giveaway to the half dragon that not too long prior, was rampaging....
Her logic just made zero sense, her plan was to trust her and if she was lying learn that lesson for the future. How about you just have no need for learning that lesson by not making the mistake of trusting her in the first place like Caleb did? Just 0 sense made.
@@a.garcha199 Well Beau as a character is just pretty dense and unreasonable most of the time, and act's as a know-it-all. She's useful in fighting situations, but outside of that not the most helpful, sometimes she makes it even harder for the group to succeed in social encounters.
@@jumpstick9446 Amen. I hate her character.
Beau's made of 92.3% cringe. There's plenty of other things that are amazing in this show, so I'm just the happiest whenever Beau doesn't do much outside of combat.
Why do I get the feeling that at least a part of Beu’s baggage is what’s causing her to lash out at Caleb about his baggage
WHAT!?! No way! (sarcasm)
Just gonna say I watched high rollers before critical role, and you can really tell that Mark has been a dungeon master before because he describes everything so vividly lol
Yasha's Face when realising that she just f*ucked up an entire Cult is pure gold.
Timestamp?
@@cornelia3912 It's somewhere around 4:10:00
4:14:25
I love that it happened just after I read this comment