I love how unashamed Underworld is with just establishing an absurd amount of lore, for a mid-budget action film that is not an adaptation of an existing IP. It's actually handled surprisingly well.
@@felixfungle-bung4688 maybe??? I don't know about that... but vampire the masquerade came out in 91 and Spawn came out in 92... don't know if werewolves v vampires came out much later... but I wouldn't be surprised if underworld also "borrowed" from Todd... but I think you would hear more complaints from him if that was the case...
@GarmrsBarking Todd's series was Networks 1995. A world where vampires and werewolves are at war. I know Kevin Grevioux used his schooling in genetics to explore the ancestory genetics angle. I'm sure the writers are aware of Vampire Masquerade.
The actor playing the werewolf Raze is Kevin Grevioux. I had the same thought about his voice when I first saw the movie, but that is, in fact, his real speaking voice. He actually came up with the original premise for the movie and was one of the screenwriters
Selene's entire get up is so iconic. The suit, the coat, the hair, her guns, everything and most importantly, Kate Beckinsale's performance! Also, Kevin Grevioux, who plays the werewolf Raze and has that incredible voice, came up with the original story that this film is based on. He also created the Marvel character Blue Marvel.
That's his actual voice. My wife taught at the school his kids attended. He was really involved and a great parent and absolutely sounds like that in real life.
If Simone hasn't seen the sequels i'd say the 2nd film and the prequel (more Michael Sheen and Bill Nighy) are worth a watch. They're not high art or anything but they're a good time if you like the vibes.
Yeah I agree with this - I LOVEEEE the original trilogy, two is my favourite I think although three is a close second. 4 & 5 are like good afternoon chill movies but nowhere near as good as the other three. 😆
Yeah. The first 3 are perfect together. The 4th and the 5th doesn't bring anything of essential to the story. And since Michael Corvin sadly doesn't appear on the last 2, it feels like "The adventures of Selene". However, I really loved what they did to Selene 's character in the fifth.
You need to remember in 2003 Bill Nighy and Michael Sheen, while accomplished actors, weren't big Hollywood stars , their deaths weren't that shocking .
This film was my introduction to both, and they were so impressive to me. Bill Nighy in particular took what might have been a cartoonish character and made him imposing.
Yeah this was a few years before people got really well acquainted with Nighy for his portrayal of Davy Jones in the pirates franchise. Nighy was so damn on point in Underworld though. Michael Sheen is stellar as well, I just wish he didn't die in this movie because it could have made the next movie so much more interesting. Evolution is still good, but with Lucien it could have been a more complex story.
@@dark_rit Lucien didn't have to die story wise. (Kate Beckinsale did leave him for the director so that complicates things) Still Raze had come back with Amelia's blood in vials and dropped it on the ground. All Lucien had to do was inject it and it wouldn't have mattered how many times they shot him.
Wealth and sex became associated with vampires from 19th century novels like Dracula and Carmilla. It's amazing seeing all the people in the comments that think Anne Rice invented that.
If we're going deep, vampire legends have always been about sex; the Romantic and fin de siecle writers just canonized it and brought it into the modern vernacular.
Dracula was the prototype of the sexy aristocrat. Dark Shadows was the prototype of the Vampire With A Conscience. Anbe Rice took both and codified it.
Bill Nighy is so much scenery-chewing fun in this movie as Viktor. And it's hard to blame him for being so grumpy - poor guy just wanted to finish his nap.
24:17 They say in the movie that the virus kills most people bitten by either vampire or werewolf, AND that no one had ever survived a bite from both vampire and werewolf. Also, re: Kraven's "American" accent, the actor is Irish, and doing a genetic eurotrash/British accent to mixed results.
Incorrect. The actor playing Kraven, Shane Brolly, isn't doing an accent; It's his natural accent - He grew up in Northern Ireland (which is part of the UK) before moving to London in his teens.
@VirtusoftNI he's absolutely putting on a bit of a voice. Even if it's just him dealing with fake teeth being in his mouth, he's not speaking completely naturally.
What's funny is the actress who plays Erica (the blonde who helps Selene get ready for the party), went on to star as the love interest in a short-lived vampire detective TV show called Moonlight.
I was a Concept Artist on Underworld III directed by my boss and mentor Patrick Tatopoulos. The creatures in this movie were designed by Patrick as well as the entire production. I knew Kate Beckinsale and her then husband, Director Len Wiseman. Kate wasn't in Underworld III, but I met her on Total Recall. She is the kindest gentlest woman I have ever met. She is nothing like Selene. She's a very sweet and fragile woman. Her performance in this is remarkable when you realize just how soft and girlie she is. Love her to death and miss her alot.
That is his real voice. He's one of the writers, and he's in the DVD commentary. He's also a molecular biologist and a comic book creator. Kevin Grevioux is his name.
About that big Lycan with a deep voice, when he got into showbiz he was working on a masters in genetic engineering. He's also the writer of the movie's original screenplay, so pretty much the movie was all him.
That big black guy with the deep voice is Kevin Grevioux, and he's actually one of the main creators of this story! And yes his voice is EXTREMELY deep IRL.
I also like the terminology used from one Doctor (Michael) to another: "Feels like my head is splitting in two". Nomenclature never sounded so good. :P
"UNDERWORLD" (2003) is a German -- Hungarian -- U.K. -- U.S. co-production. Most actors/actresses were from the U.K. Kate Beckinsale and Sophia Myles are from England. Bill Nighy and Robbie Gee are "British" actors. Michael Sheen is from Wales and Shane Brolly from Northern Ireland. Scott Speedman [who played Michael Corvin] is Canadian. Austrian actor Erwin Leder played the Lycan scientist. Vampire elder Amelia was played by Hungarian actress Zita Görög. Wentworth Miller and Kevin Grevioux [ who played the big Lycan Raze ] are American actors. Kevin Grevioux also co-developed the story.
I remember when Prison Break first came on TV here in the UK, the announcer voicing the intro after the ad-break introduced it by saying: 'starring Wentworth Miller, who was also in Buffy...' The man can escape Fox River, but he will never escape Buffy xD
These movies are a product of their time, but OH MAN I love them so much, the lore and worldbuilding is amazing... and Kate is well... the cherry on top.
As a 90/00s artifact, I think it should be mentioned how much this owes to the "Vampire: The Masquerade" and related role playing games, which were very popular a few years before this came out. IIRC there was actually a lawsuit from White Wolf Games that I don't think went anywhere.
White Wolf did indeed sue them, and it was settled out of court. I thought it was kind of spurious until Viktor said "Abomination!" when they were talking about the vampire/werewolf hybrid and then I was like "Ope, no there you go, there's your settlement." :D (Abomination is specifically the term for a very rare, unbelievably dangerous vampire-werewolf cross in Vampire the Masquerade/Werewolf the Apocalypse RPGs)
@@Dan-Dillon the first time I saw it I thought an incredible amount was taken from VtM. and it’s my understanding White Wolf sued them and they either settled or got some sort of agreement done. I also felt like the Blade movie also borrowed a lot. But somehow I they slipped under the radar.
7:10 “when did vampires start living in mansions?” Um, it started with the OG Count Dracula? _Count_ Dracula. Mofo lived in a castle, not even a lowly mansion. And Dracula’s somewhat inspired by Vlad the Impaler who was, y’know, ruler of a whole chunk of Romania. A mansion is honestly a massive step down.
@@raymondamador1487 True. My comment was only about the wealth thing. Though it’d be funny if it’d been the other way around; all vampires being insanely hot hobos. Derelícte! But it was more unsettling to have a Nosferatu-looking creep inexplicably hold some sexual-adjacent power over some attractive young man or woman. It’s certainly less icky when everyone’s a 10/10 smokeshow _and_ rich. Like, yeah, bite whatever you want
"when did vampires become sexy" - they were mythologically often associated with sex, and as a metaphor for forbidden desire. It was really solidified by Polidori and the "Vampyre" novel in the early 19th century, and then Bram Stoker's interpretation. In movies, Bela Lugosi changed that image to a charming powerful aristocrat, rather than an animalistic presentation like Nosferatu was.
Kate Beckinsale looked incredible in that costume. Just a heads up regarding the sequels. Evolution and Rise of The Lycans are brilliant. But Awakening and Blood Wars are abysmal. The lore of these films is fascinating.
Marcus’s black eyes at the end reveal that he’s being turned into a hybrid too since he has the original Corvinus blood. You’ll find out what he looks like in the sequel
@@Caroline_Tyler *Most actors do blink* Because they don't get extensively trained on firearms. The ones that do like Tom Cruise, Jon Bernthal, Keanu Reeves, and Halle Berry don't blink. I thought that logic would be evident from my comment. Look at the behind the scenes for the movie. The director specifically says they had her trained extensively so Kate Beckinsale would look like the warrior that Selene is supposed to be.
10:43 Correct, Simone. Wentworth Miller was in a single episode of Buffy. He's also in every episode of Prison Break. Just if you wanted to check that out. When the series first aired, fans created a forum called the First Church of Wentworth Miller. Moderators had to shut it down after people got out of control in their posts while claiming Wenty's body parts.
It's kinda funny how George always gives recaps for the people that skip the intro. No other channels do. And this is the only reaction channel where I don't skip the intro.
Kevin Grevioux and Bill Nighy also co-starred in another of Kevin's brainchilds, "I, Frankenstein", where Nighy was the master demon and Kevin was his top demon commander.
29:22 Vampire Elder Amelia is played by Zita Görög, a Hungarian actress and supermodel. Even her small role created enough fan interest that she was added in a flashback scene in the sequel.
I watched this movie when it came out in theaters. As a young adult of 18, it cemented my undying love for Kate Beckinsale and vampire themes, certain crepuscular saga not withstanding.
movie trivia - (at around 37 mins) The 'attack dogs' outside of the vampire mansion were actually very docile and playful canines, which were the only dogs available at the time. For the scene where they chase Scott Speedman, director Len Wiseman had to film short clips of the dogs running and later put in sounds of vicious barking. If you look closely though you can see their tails happily wagging back and forth. - (at around 28 mins) Len Wiseman opted to shoot many of the action and effects sequences live, without computer imagery. In one scene, for instance, a werewolf seems to run more than 50 mph behind a speeding car. This was shot using an elaborate rig towed behind a vehicle, with actor Michael Sheen doing the closeups of the running and the jump onto the car, while the long shot of Lucian running was done by stuntman Todd Schneider. - (at around 1h 27 mins) Although Lucian is the lead Lycan, he only ever shifts once into his full werewolf form, and that's in a flashback scene. - In the newly released 2017 4k remaster of Underworld, the scene where Michael recounts the events of Sonja's demise when he speaks with Lucian in the film is replaced with the actual scene from Underworld: Rise of the Lycans (2009) instead of the original flashbacks used in the 2003 version. - A kiss between Michael and Selene (when she unchains him in Lucian's lab) appears in the trailer but was not included in the theatrical release or on the DVD, but it is on the unrated version of Underworld. - The creators of the series approached Marvel Studios about doing a crossover with the Blade franchise, with Wesley Snipes presumably reprising his role. Marvel declined, saying they wanted to leave the door open to do something with Blade on their own terms. - At the time of the first film, Kate Beckinsale had been mostly doing period pieces and playing lovely girls. She took the role to shake the image a little. The success of this and Van Helsing turned her into an Action Girl in the 2000s. 2016's Love & Friendship (2016) is a return to her period roots
My personal favorite depiction of a vampire, which does keep to this trope of them being rich pricks, has to come from the Good Intentions. Basically in that series they are viewed as the supernatural version of cockroaches. Additionally, they get odd the older they get as they tend to get stuck in the fashion and mindset of whenever it was they were turned from a human into vampire. That is why you see "Viking-vampires" at shindigs in Miami act just like a Viking would act back in the day. Still I will let the author's words from his first books warning sum up for me as to how they are depicted: "consistent abuse of vampires (which is always comedy) ."
Please please please continue to watch the series! The sequel starts directly after this ends and the third is a prequel with a lot of lore and explanation of what was sprinkled in this.
I finally now understand underworld or at least the first movie It's a retelling of Romeo and Juliet combining the bloodlines and the priest in Romeo and Juliet wanting to combine the families I just never noticed that before until now
Since Simone likes TTRPGs like D&D, the game Vampire: The Masquerade has a lot in common with this movie. So much so, the publishers of V:TM sued the makers of this movie and it was settled out of court. It's a great game full of political intrigue.
11:15 The big guy is Kevin Greivous who wrote Underworld (very talented screenwriter). And yes, that IS his voice (although he's going a bit deeper for the film). I spoke to him a number of times. I asked him to say "Luke, I am your father." He got a kick out of that.
Apparently Kate Beckinsale convinced the director Len Wiseman to cast her partner at the time - Michael Sheen - in the movie but during the production Kate and Len got together that led to them marrying in 2004. So, there was some competition for her in the leather outfit 😁
Like another director/actress couple whom together push their choice of IP beyond it's welcome and pretty much limit the actress's ability to invest in other options while still a 'thing'.
@CineBinge the building drop is a practical effect. They built a rig to rapidly slow towards the end of the fall, allowing the stunt double to absorb the impact. Then quick cut and insert Kate to walk out of it.
The blonde vampire girl was played by Sophia Myles. She was in a very memorable episode of Doctor Who and also had her own vampire detective show with Alex O’Loughlin of Hawaii 5-0
Love when Simone drops a Buffy reference...we will get George to the slayer-fest one of these days. I mean, with his reactions to the just outfits in this movie - 7 years of Buffy, Cordelia. Willow, Faith and many others are right in his wheelhouse.
Having worn Selene's costume on several occasions, it's one of the first cinematic uses of Datex, latex bonded to polyamide/Lycra (yeah I read the care tag) so it can be sewn along seams instead of folded and glued....and you can hear the fabric swishing against your skin as you move, and Beckinsale's noises in the making of documentary.
For the record I would say that while the aesthetic really gained momentum with stories like Interview with a Vampire, the whole Sexy Vampire vibe goes back to at least 1872 with the Gothic novel Carmilla, which predates Dracula AND has lesbian vampires in it.
Someone else claims earlier with some poem. from the 1700's. This is why finding the first is impossible when every idea is built upon other ideas before.
The little gasps from Viktor are when he gets another bunch of memories, they overwhelm him for a minute. As to Vampires in big houses, lots of money, patrician and noble? That started with Count Dracula. And the film was done in Eastern Europe. Prague or Budapest, I forget.
Kate Beckinsale looks absolutely stunning in this movie! The one and only thing I do not like about this movie is that Amelia was such a wasted character especially considering she was an elder vampire meaning she was on par with Marcus and Viktor and was easily killed like that. I understand the movie wasn't about her but they shouldn't have only given her 60 seconds of screen time and then kill her off, that was mistake in my opinion.
I am guessing they were never warned about the Lycan's UV rounds due to Kraven being in charge so they would mostly be fish in a barrel if they weren't expecting the ambush as there isn't much room to dodge in a train car.
George’s questions about various aspects of vampire aesthetics just highlights to me that we (the fans) need to get George and Simone to watch one of more of the film version of Dracula.
shame on both of you for that beginning comparing twilight to this great movie series. grew up watching this and love it and always on the Werewolf/Lycan side love Lucan and his right hand is awesome and love the concept of a hybrid
8:41 Late 70s with Interview with the Vampire written by Anne Rice. 80s movies like The Lost Boys definitely helped with the "vampires are not ugly" train of thought.
So Kate Beckingsales costume involved massive platform boots, so if she sprinted she literally couldn't stop. So every scene where Selene sprints, there's a dedicated squad of stuntman with a mattress offscreen waiting to catch her.
As your going to learn about werewolfs. The werewolf progenitor was a wild rabid beast and so all he infected were like him. The vampires had to hunt them down or be overrun. Lucian is literally a new generation of werewolf, he is sane and kept his intellect.
Vampires were made sexy in the Victorian era starting with Bram Stoker, prior to that they were confined to the kind of superstitious monsters that were part of various folklores.
Incorrect. The modern vampire boom began with Baron Ruthven in The Vampyre by Polidori, and was followed (most famously but not exclusively), by Varney the Vampire, and Carmilla. They were all very charismatic and sexually alluring. There's a whole literary history of vampire fiction before Dracula!
Its a very tiny thing but I love that when Selene kneels in front of Viktor that he scoffs at the gestsure and tells her to come closer, like he clearly views her differently than the other vampires. It comes as a big of a shock that he doesn't believe her initially. I also love that despite superior speed and strength of the Hybrid, they still had Viktor's 1500 years of combat experience allow him to get the upper hand on Michael
Wonder if Simone ever noticed Pedro Pascal in Buffy? One of the sequels features Rhona Mitra. Before becoming an actress she was the second Lara Croft model used to promote the Tomb Raider game. She's also done a really good Mad Max-esq brit film called Doomsday which is pretty entertaining.
Remember they said he was a sole survivor and it was centuries centuries Turning that event into history And then it becoming a legendary story. I doubt the vampires who are not the elders Are too young to know what he looks like.
George: "Blarst" is only a _southern, upper-class_ British accent. Up here in t'north and over most of the country, we say "blast". if Sean Bean was using his natural Sheffield accent, he'd say "blast".
Working-class southerners too! But yes, anyone from the midlands upward shortens the vowel and when reactors say “British accent” they really only mean southeast England. I always feel a bit miffed on behalf of the rest of Britain when I hear “British” accent.
@@EnglishRalph is southeast england not part of the british isles? its part of britain so its a british accent. just like if you hear cali or new york or bible belt, its all american accents. its a category, who the f goes out of their way in casual conversation to specify region. thats just weird.
@ I wasn’t suggesting that reactors should say “Upper-class, southeast England accent” but in my experience that is almost always what they mean and my reply was to a statement specifically about regional accents, which was in response to George talking about differing vowel sounds, so it would have been kind of weird not to specify a region. But saying “English” accent would at least narrow it down to a single country. They don’t mean Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish. In the olden days, we would’ve called it “BBC English” because the news presenters all had to sound “proper”.
@@EnglishRalph mate. its a throw away comment as theyre watching a movie. like its casual conversation, you have the benefit of typing your thought out, likely minutes after hearing what he said. hes just having a conversation in real time with someone while watching a movie. no sane person would go into specifics and think of the little details of region and correct categorizations just incase some ppl from the UK are watching.
@ I’m not saying that anyone sane or otherwise should do that and my comment wasn’t directed at George or other reactors. I don’t care if you all think Britain is just a tiny village where we all say “blarst”, because that’s where me and my accent are from (as are Kate Beckinsale, Bill Nighy, Sophia Myles and Robbie Gee) and you can generalise all you like. However, it’s inaccurate and my geographical and class clarifications were from one Englishman to another. I know a whole bunch of Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish who would say that they are only British through the tyranny of Empire, they hate being lumped in with the English and especially a load of lah-di-dah southern softies whose accent doesn’t even exist in their country. I can empathise but again this was a comment to another Brit, not a stab at George.
There was a great trailer to a movie called Time and Tide, directed by Tsui Hark. The music for that trailer was the same music that Underworld used for their trailer and the music has stayed with me for over 20 years. The song was Red Tape by Agent Provocateur. Love both trailers to those movies.
Honestly the Underworld series is probably my favorite vampire/werewolf related movies. Cheesy I think at times but I really love the lore and world building.
"When did this aesthetic begin?" Rich vampires were from Bram Stoker. Before "Dracula" vampires were ghoulish beasts that lurked in shadows and graveyards like stray wolves. Stoker was drawing a parallel between the ruling class in the severe wealth inequality in Victorian Europe with the bloodsucking undead. "When did vampires become sexy" succubi and incubi and various other monsters that feed on humans by mimicing sexually attractive humans are in the folklore of nearly every culture. In Greek mythology there are beasts like Lamia and Sirens that have the bodies of apex predators like wolves or large birds of prey, but look and sound like beautiful women from the waist up, so as to lure human males into being their next meal. But again, vampires did not traditionally have incubus/sucubus abilities until Bram Stoker Of note, vulnerability to sunlight was a trope that Stoker did NOT use. That was invented by "Nosferatu" the unofficial/knock-off movie adaptation of his book. There are scenes in the book and Coppola's movie with Dracula walking around in broad daylight.
The first vampire in prose fiction was Lord Ruthven, an aristocrat, in the 1819 story The Vampyre. Then there were 80 years of vampire fiction before Dracula was published.
Simone : "Wow . That's a lot of werewolves !" My brain : "There wolf . There Castle !" "Why are you talking like that ?" "I thought you wanted to." "No, I don't want to." "Suits me, I'm easy."
The first three Underworld movies are very good. The second movie is a continuation of Michael and Selene's story. While the third is the prequel, which is set in medieval times, goes into great detail explaining everything, and you get to see more of Amelia.
I would also go back to Dark Shadows 1966. A day-time soap that started out as Gothic mystery. But twisted to vampires and werewolves. Developing a teen flowing, unusual for day-time soaps.
I love how unashamed Underworld is with just establishing an absurd amount of lore, for a mid-budget action film that is not an adaptation of an existing IP. It's actually handled surprisingly well.
@4:56 I wish Vampires could hear a train when it's further than 'in your face'. :P
nah... they've taken a lot of inspiration from the tabletop role-playing games Vampire: The Masquerade and Werewolf: The Apocalypse...
@GarmrsBarking I believe Todd McFarlane had a toy series of werewolves v vampires based on characters from Spawn.
@@felixfungle-bung4688 maybe??? I don't know about that... but vampire the masquerade came out in 91 and Spawn came out in 92... don't know if werewolves v vampires came out much later... but I wouldn't be surprised if underworld also "borrowed" from Todd... but I think you would hear more complaints from him if that was the case...
@GarmrsBarking Todd's series was Networks 1995. A world where vampires and werewolves are at war.
I know Kevin Grevioux used his schooling in genetics to explore the ancestory genetics angle.
I'm sure the writers are aware of Vampire Masquerade.
The actor playing the werewolf Raze is Kevin Grevioux. I had the same thought about his voice when I first saw the movie, but that is, in fact, his real speaking voice.
He actually came up with the original premise for the movie and was one of the screenwriters
Simone may or may not know, but Kevin Grevioux was an extra in the first two seasons of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. You can't unsee it.
Kevin is also a comic book creator also
He voices black beetle in young justice.
Imagine him working on a Call Center or reading you a bed time story. lol
Is it just me or did that guy play a Mangalore in the 5th Element?
Selene's entire get up is so iconic. The suit, the coat, the hair, her guns, everything and most importantly, Kate Beckinsale's performance!
Also, Kevin Grevioux, who plays the werewolf Raze and has that incredible voice, came up with the original story that this film is based on. He also created the Marvel character Blue Marvel.
she is literal perfection
Grevioux also wrote the comic book of I, Frankenstein, which became one of the worst movies ever made,
Nostalgia critic made fun of leather outfits noises in his Matrix review , 9 year ago , about 32 min YT clip at 17 min mark
Yes, her "performance" lol
In all seriousness though, she excellent
Her butt.
That's his actual voice. My wife taught at the school his kids attended. He was really involved and a great parent and absolutely sounds like that in real life.
If Simone hasn't seen the sequels i'd say the 2nd film and the prequel (more Michael Sheen and Bill Nighy) are worth a watch. They're not high art or anything but they're a good time if you like the vibes.
If the pace was a little faster both of those movies would be pretty good.
Yes, the first three Underworld movies make a great trilogy!
You really should skip the movies after that.
Yeah I agree with this - I LOVEEEE the original trilogy, two is my favourite I think although three is a close second. 4 & 5 are like good afternoon chill movies but nowhere near as good as the other three. 😆
The prequel is the best of the series.
Yeah. The first 3 are perfect together. The 4th and the 5th doesn't bring anything of essential to the story. And since Michael Corvin sadly doesn't appear on the last 2, it feels like "The adventures of Selene".
However, I really loved what they did to Selene 's character in the fifth.
You need to remember in 2003 Bill Nighy and Michael Sheen, while accomplished actors, weren't big Hollywood stars , their deaths weren't that shocking .
This film was my introduction to both, and they were so impressive to me. Bill Nighy in particular took what might have been a cartoonish character and made him imposing.
whhhaaa???
You reminded me of Peter Fonda whom does die in several films - of course back then film was different from the safe space - wannabe edgy stuff today.
Yeah this was a few years before people got really well acquainted with Nighy for his portrayal of Davy Jones in the pirates franchise. Nighy was so damn on point in Underworld though. Michael Sheen is stellar as well, I just wish he didn't die in this movie because it could have made the next movie so much more interesting. Evolution is still good, but with Lucien it could have been a more complex story.
@@dark_rit Lucien didn't have to die story wise. (Kate Beckinsale did leave him for the director so that complicates things) Still Raze had come back with Amelia's blood in vials and dropped it on the ground. All Lucien had to do was inject it and it wouldn't have mattered how many times they shot him.
Wealth and sex became associated with vampires from 19th century novels like Dracula and Carmilla. It's amazing seeing all the people in the comments that think Anne Rice invented that.
Can't blame them they were kids reading Anne Rice before classics
If we're going deep, vampire legends have always been about sex; the Romantic and fin de siecle writers just canonized it and brought it into the modern vernacular.
It goes back to Baron Ruthven in Polidori's 'The Vampyre' (1819). An iconic short story/novelette which began the modern vampire trend.
Dracula was the prototype of the sexy aristocrat. Dark Shadows was the prototype of the Vampire With A Conscience. Anbe Rice took both and codified it.
It's been the subtext of the stories since they began.
Amelia was played by Zita Görög, she is a model from my country, Hungary. A lot of shots are filmed in Budapest, Hungary.
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We NEED that Underworld: Evolution reaction now!
Bill Nighy is so much scenery-chewing fun in this movie as Viktor. And it's hard to blame him for being so grumpy - poor guy just wanted to finish his nap.
24:17 They say in the movie that the virus kills most people bitten by either vampire or werewolf, AND that no one had ever survived a bite from both vampire and werewolf.
Also, re: Kraven's "American" accent, the actor is Irish, and doing a genetic eurotrash/British accent to mixed results.
Incorrect. The actor playing Kraven, Shane Brolly, isn't doing an accent; It's his natural accent - He grew up in Northern Ireland (which is part of the UK) before moving to London in his teens.
@VirtusoftNI he's absolutely putting on a bit of a voice. Even if it's just him dealing with fake teeth being in his mouth, he's not speaking completely naturally.
What's funny is the actress who plays Erica (the blonde who helps Selene get ready for the party), went on to star as the love interest in a short-lived vampire detective TV show called Moonlight.
Everyone talks about how hot Kate Beckinsale is in this movie (and understandably so), but I had a serious crush on Sophia Myles after seeing it, too.
And was Miranda is Mass Effect.
@@davidbeyerle6996 that's Yvonne Strahovski
@@nocturneJOJO yep!
I loved Moonlight! I have the DVD.
The guy with the voice is a Microbiologist and wrote this movie when he was in college. He has also created characters for Marvel Comics.
I absolutely adore how this movie uses almost exclusively practical effects due its relatively low budget.
One of the DVD featurettes covers the Lycan costumes. For the times they were very highly detailed
I was a Concept Artist on Underworld III directed by my boss and mentor Patrick Tatopoulos. The creatures in this movie were designed by Patrick as well as the entire production. I knew Kate Beckinsale and her then husband, Director Len Wiseman. Kate wasn't in Underworld III, but I met her on Total Recall. She is the kindest gentlest woman I have ever met. She is nothing like Selene. She's a very sweet and fragile woman. Her performance in this is remarkable when you realize just how soft and girlie she is. Love her to death and miss her alot.
Please watch Rise of the Lycans. In my opinion the best Underworld movie. Its all about the story of how the war started.
Yaaaaaaaaaasssss! ❤❤❤
Yes! Rise is the culmination of the Underworld series, and the subsequents film should be skipped
I’ve always liked that one as well
@@ThreadBomb Would have been a fine trilogy if they had stopped at that.
Not to mention its an absolutely kick-ass medieval fantasy movie, of which there aren't that many
That is his real voice. He's one of the writers, and he's in the DVD commentary. He's also a molecular biologist and a comic book creator. Kevin Grevioux is his name.
About that big Lycan with a deep voice, when he got into showbiz he was working on a masters in genetic engineering. He's also the writer of the movie's original screenplay, so pretty much the movie was all him.
And I believe also had a degree in microbiology.
That big black guy with the deep voice is Kevin Grevioux, and he's actually one of the main creators of this story! And yes his voice is EXTREMELY deep IRL.
@@jemal999 I had to check. Character is named Raze, but Kevin’s voice in amazing.
All the years I've watched you guys, at 4:42, that's the most "Canadian" I've ever heard Simone react before lol She was genuinely excited lol
I just realized that the doctor Lycan that George calls Mengele is Edwin Leder who played Johann, the chief engineer in Das Boot.
Never realized that
I also like the terminology used from one Doctor (Michael) to another: "Feels like my head is splitting in two". Nomenclature never sounded so good. :P
"UNDERWORLD" (2003) is a German -- Hungarian -- U.K. -- U.S. co-production. Most actors/actresses were from the U.K. Kate Beckinsale and Sophia Myles are from England. Bill Nighy and Robbie Gee are "British" actors. Michael Sheen is from Wales and Shane Brolly from Northern Ireland. Scott Speedman [who played Michael Corvin] is Canadian. Austrian actor Erwin Leder played the Lycan scientist. Vampire elder Amelia was played by Hungarian actress Zita Görög. Wentworth Miller and Kevin Grevioux [ who played the big Lycan Raze ] are American actors. Kevin Grevioux also co-developed the story.
"We put the bullets back" is maybe my favorite line in this.
That line clued me in the vamps r the villans
10:43 I like how Simone went to Buffy and I thought "Forgot Wentworth was in this before Prison Break and Legends of Tomorrow."
I remember when Prison Break first came on TV here in the UK, the announcer voicing the intro after the ad-break introduced it by saying: 'starring Wentworth Miller, who was also in Buffy...'
The man can escape Fox River, but he will never escape Buffy xD
These movies are a product of their time, but OH MAN I love them so much, the lore and worldbuilding is amazing... and Kate is well... the cherry on top.
"product of their time" -- AKA the late 90s-mid 00s, AKA one of the great periods of genre cinema.
@@ThreadBomb Small libraries lack historical context.
She actually gives it so much more gravity than it deserves! Without Kate, this would have felt much more trashy, I feel like.
@@terrylandess6072 With the distance of time, I think I will be proved right.
As a 90/00s artifact, I think it should be mentioned how much this owes to the "Vampire: The Masquerade" and related role playing games, which were very popular a few years before this came out.
IIRC there was actually a lawsuit from White Wolf Games that I don't think went anywhere.
White Wolf did indeed sue them, and it was settled out of court. I thought it was kind of spurious until Viktor said "Abomination!" when they were talking about the vampire/werewolf hybrid and then I was like "Ope, no there you go, there's your settlement." :D
(Abomination is specifically the term for a very rare, unbelievably dangerous vampire-werewolf cross in Vampire the Masquerade/Werewolf the Apocalypse RPGs)
@Dan-Dillon Well, I assume if White Wolf got any real money from them there wouldn't be 5 sequels (or how ever many there are).
i still play that :)=
tabletop of course ;-)
@@Dan-Dillon the first time I saw it I thought an incredible amount was taken from VtM. and it’s my understanding White Wolf sued them and they either settled or got some sort of agreement done. I also felt like the Blade movie also borrowed a lot. But somehow I they slipped under the radar.
Tim Bradstreet's monochrome images from the original books were absolutely iconic.
7:10 “when did vampires start living in mansions?”
Um, it started with the OG Count Dracula? _Count_ Dracula. Mofo lived in a castle, not even a lowly mansion. And Dracula’s somewhat inspired by Vlad the Impaler who was, y’know, ruler of a whole chunk of Romania. A mansion is honestly a massive step down.
Right, but Vampires didn't get sexy until Interview with a Vampire and Queen of the Damned. Before then, all Vampires were ugly
@@raymondamador1487 True. My comment was only about the wealth thing. Though it’d be funny if it’d been the other way around; all vampires being insanely hot hobos. Derelícte!
But it was more unsettling to have a Nosferatu-looking creep inexplicably hold some sexual-adjacent power over some attractive young man or woman. It’s certainly less icky when everyone’s a 10/10 smokeshow _and_ rich. Like, yeah, bite whatever you want
@ferchrissakes True 💯
Count Dracula was super sexy. He seduced females and mind controlled all humans.
@@raymondamador1487 Uh, no... Go reread Bram Stoker's Dracula. The whole second half of the book he's charming and attractive and sexy.
"when did vampires become sexy" - they were mythologically often associated with sex, and as a metaphor for forbidden desire. It was really solidified by Polidori and the "Vampyre" novel in the early 19th century, and then Bram Stoker's interpretation. In movies, Bela Lugosi changed that image to a charming powerful aristocrat, rather than an animalistic presentation like Nosferatu was.
Kate Beckinsale looked incredible in that costume. Just a heads up regarding the sequels. Evolution and Rise of The Lycans are brilliant. But Awakening and Blood Wars are abysmal. The lore of these films is fascinating.
I agree. The first three movies make a great trilogy. The following movies are, sadly, crap.
Marcus’s black eyes at the end reveal that he’s being turned into a hybrid too since he has the original Corvinus blood. You’ll find out what he looks like in the sequel
This movie was on repeat in my household during my middle school years. Even 20+ years later, it's so much fun to watch.
"What's this ruckus?" with the music and the aura of Viktor is still one of the greatest introductions to a character in a film.
I love how Kate Beckinsale traind herself not to blink when firing off her guns. so cool.
You mean was trained. Most people who get extensively trained with firearms don't blink.
@@Jaslath Most actors do blink, I applaud Kate for her dedication to look kick-ass!
@@Caroline_Tyler
*Most actors do blink*
Because they don't get extensively trained on firearms. The ones that do like Tom Cruise, Jon Bernthal, Keanu Reeves, and Halle Berry don't blink. I thought that logic would be evident from my comment.
Look at the behind the scenes for the movie. The director specifically says they had her trained extensively so Kate Beckinsale would look like the warrior that Selene is supposed to be.
I like Underworld 3 (Rise of the Lycans) the most, it's in the Middle Ages and it's great.
way too short though
Underworld 3 is great and, yes, possibly the best film in the series, but that sex scene is hilarious.
Oh good you saw the interview clip! He's also the writer or co-writer! Very interesting dude.
10:43 Correct, Simone. Wentworth Miller was in a single episode of Buffy. He's also in every episode of Prison Break. Just if you wanted to check that out. When the series first aired, fans created a forum called the First Church of Wentworth Miller. Moderators had to shut it down after people got out of control in their posts while claiming Wenty's body parts.
Ah yes.. Kate B. as Selene - the character that spawned millions (many, many millions) of adolescent crushes.
I actually liked her in Serendipity but this movie sealed it for me.
I still rub one out to her
I liked more in Van Helsing
I actually bumped into Michael Sheen shopping a few years back. Really nice guy who stays true to his Welsh roots
It's kinda funny how George always gives recaps for the people that skip the intro. No other channels do. And this is the only reaction channel where I don't skip the intro.
Kevin Grevioux and Bill Nighy also co-starred in another of Kevin's brainchilds, "I, Frankenstein", where Nighy was the master demon and Kevin was his top demon commander.
0:45 dont we all?! 😍😅🤣
No, it's not shot in Canada. It's shot in Budapest, Hungary. It's also where the story takes place. The sequel is shot in Vancouver.
Every man alive would fall for that handcuff trick.
29:22 Vampire Elder Amelia is played by Zita Görög, a Hungarian actress and supermodel. Even her small role created enough fan interest that she was added in a flashback scene in the sequel.
I watched this movie when it came out in theaters. As a young adult of 18, it cemented my undying love for Kate Beckinsale and vampire themes, certain crepuscular saga not withstanding.
movie trivia
- (at around 37 mins) The 'attack dogs' outside of the vampire mansion were actually very docile and playful canines, which were the only dogs available at the time. For the scene where they chase Scott Speedman, director Len Wiseman had to film short clips of the dogs running and later put in sounds of vicious barking. If you look closely though you can see their tails happily wagging back and forth.
- (at around 28 mins) Len Wiseman opted to shoot many of the action and effects sequences live, without computer imagery. In one scene, for instance, a werewolf seems to run more than 50 mph behind a speeding car. This was shot using an elaborate rig towed behind a vehicle, with actor Michael Sheen doing the closeups of the running and the jump onto the car, while the long shot of Lucian running was done by stuntman Todd Schneider.
- (at around 1h 27 mins) Although Lucian is the lead Lycan, he only ever shifts once into his full werewolf form, and that's in a flashback scene.
- In the newly released 2017 4k remaster of Underworld, the scene where Michael recounts the events of Sonja's demise when he speaks with Lucian in the film is replaced with the actual scene from Underworld: Rise of the Lycans (2009) instead of the original flashbacks used in the 2003 version.
- A kiss between Michael and Selene (when she unchains him in Lucian's lab) appears in the trailer but was not included in the theatrical release or on the DVD, but it is on the unrated version of Underworld.
- The creators of the series approached Marvel Studios about doing a crossover with the Blade franchise, with Wesley Snipes presumably reprising his role. Marvel declined, saying they wanted to leave the door open to do something with Blade on their own terms.
- At the time of the first film, Kate Beckinsale had been mostly doing period pieces and playing lovely girls. She took the role to shake the image a little. The success of this and Van Helsing turned her into an Action Girl in the 2000s. 2016's Love & Friendship (2016) is a return to her period roots
I'd say an early sexy vampire is Geraldine in Coleridge's poem Christabel, which he began in 1797.
I was not aware of this before. Thank you!
Simone got an expression of Butter won't melt in her mouth, while George saying the Elder is good.
My personal favorite depiction of a vampire, which does keep to this trope of them being rich pricks, has to come from the Good Intentions. Basically in that series they are viewed as the supernatural version of cockroaches. Additionally, they get odd the older they get as they tend to get stuck in the fashion and mindset of whenever it was they were turned from a human into vampire. That is why you see "Viking-vampires" at shindigs in Miami act just like a Viking would act back in the day. Still I will let the author's words from his first books warning sum up for me as to how they are depicted: "consistent abuse of vampires (which is always comedy) ."
I love that the blond vampire envious of Selene is the female lead in the TV show "Moonlight" where she's the "partner" of the vampire private eye.
Please please please continue to watch the series! The sequel starts directly after this ends and the third is a prequel with a lot of lore and explanation of what was sprinkled in this.
In the intro, when Simone said "George doesn't know", the song Scotty Doesn't Know popped into my head but it was Georgie Doesn't Know. 😂
I finally now understand underworld or at least the first movie
It's a retelling of Romeo and Juliet combining the bloodlines and the priest in Romeo and Juliet wanting to combine the families
I just never noticed that before until now
& becomes Orthello, the Tempest & Twlefth Night in the sequels..
This whole series is really well crafted.
Since Simone likes TTRPGs like D&D, the game Vampire: The Masquerade has a lot in common with this movie. So much so, the publishers of V:TM sued the makers of this movie and it was settled out of court.
It's a great game full of political intrigue.
11:15 The big guy is Kevin Greivous who wrote Underworld (very talented screenwriter). And yes, that IS his voice (although he's going a bit deeper for the film). I spoke to him a number of times. I asked him to say "Luke, I am your father." He got a kick out of that.
Apparently Kate Beckinsale convinced the director Len Wiseman to cast her partner at the time - Michael Sheen - in the movie but during the production Kate and Len got together that led to them marrying in 2004. So, there was some competition for her in the leather outfit 😁
Like another director/actress couple whom together push their choice of IP beyond it's welcome and pretty much limit the actress's ability to invest in other options while still a 'thing'.
@@terrylandess6072 Did someone mention resident evil?
@CineBinge the building drop is a practical effect. They built a rig to rapidly slow towards the end of the fall, allowing the stunt double to absorb the impact. Then quick cut and insert Kate to walk out of it.
Hope you guys watch all the movies. Personally, my 2nd fav after this one is nr 3. Rise of the Lycans starring Michael Sheen.
They definitely don't need to watch _all_ the movies, just hit the trilogy, have a good time, and keep it movin.
The blonde vampire girl was played by Sophia Myles. She was in a very memorable episode of Doctor Who and also had her own vampire detective show with Alex O’Loughlin of Hawaii 5-0
Love when Simone drops a Buffy reference...we will get George to the slayer-fest one of these days. I mean, with his reactions to the just outfits in this movie - 7 years of Buffy, Cordelia. Willow, Faith and many others are right in his wheelhouse.
I finally started watching Buffy myself, just reached season 3!
@@marctowersap8018 Nice
@@marctowersap8018 Mayor is the best
Having worn Selene's costume on several occasions, it's one of the first cinematic uses of Datex, latex bonded to polyamide/Lycra (yeah I read the care tag) so it can be sewn along seams instead of folded and glued....and you can hear the fabric swishing against your skin as you move, and Beckinsale's noises in the making of documentary.
For the record I would say that while the aesthetic really gained momentum with stories like Interview with a Vampire, the whole Sexy Vampire vibe goes back to at least 1872 with the Gothic novel Carmilla, which predates Dracula AND has lesbian vampires in it.
Someone else claims earlier with some poem. from the 1700's. This is why finding the first is impossible when every idea is built upon other ideas before.
The little gasps from Viktor are when he gets another bunch of memories, they overwhelm him for a minute.
As to Vampires in big houses, lots of money, patrician and noble?
That started with Count Dracula.
And the film was done in Eastern Europe. Prague or Budapest, I forget.
You must watch all five movies of this saga.
That guy from Buffy is Wentworth Miller, who also starred in Prison Break and had a recurring role in The Flash TV show.
Kate Beckinsale looks absolutely stunning in this movie!
The one and only thing I do not like about this movie is that Amelia was such a wasted character especially considering she was an elder vampire meaning she was on par with Marcus and Viktor and was easily killed like that. I understand the movie wasn't about her but they shouldn't have only given her 60 seconds of screen time and then kill her off, that was mistake in my opinion.
I am guessing they were never warned about the Lycan's UV rounds due to Kraven being in charge so they would mostly be fish in a barrel if they weren't expecting the ambush as there isn't much room to dodge in a train car.
George’s questions about various aspects of vampire aesthetics just highlights to me that we (the fans) need to get George and Simone to watch one of more of the film version of Dracula.
shame on both of you for that beginning comparing twilight to this great movie series. grew up watching this and love it and always on the Werewolf/Lycan side love Lucan and his right hand is awesome and love the concept of a hybrid
Her superhero landing was perfection ❤
You definitely need to at least watch the next two!
Selene has the BEST super hero landing and walk-off ever!
8:41 Late 70s with Interview with the Vampire written by Anne Rice. 80s movies like The Lost Boys definitely helped with the "vampires are not ugly" train of thought.
So Kate Beckingsales costume involved massive platform boots, so if she sprinted she literally couldn't stop.
So every scene where Selene sprints, there's a dedicated squad of stuntman with a mattress offscreen waiting to catch her.
Can I tell my "I don't miss anthropes because I don't lycanthropes" joke now?
no
@ThreadBomb Well I did anyway. You could threaten to slap me, but you know that I would like it. What a tangled web we weave.
As your going to learn about werewolfs. The werewolf progenitor was a wild rabid beast and so all he infected were like him. The vampires had to hunt them down or be overrun. Lucian is literally a new generation of werewolf, he is sane and kept his intellect.
Yes, to being concerned about finding a leather-clad Kate Beckinsale in your apartment. But also...
Could be worse; especially considering she has a thing for wearing Pantomime Horse costumes 😂😂😂
I actually just watched this reaction to listen to you two. Movie was a pleasant surprise but never felt the desire to watch it a second time.
Vampires were made sexy in the Victorian era starting with Bram Stoker, prior to that they were confined to the kind of superstitious monsters that were part of various folklores.
Incorrect. The modern vampire boom began with Baron Ruthven in The Vampyre by Polidori, and was followed (most famously but not exclusively), by Varney the Vampire, and Carmilla. They were all very charismatic and sexually alluring. There's a whole literary history of vampire fiction before Dracula!
@@ThreadBomb Thanks for the correction
Sophia Myles everybody! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Literally the only redeeming feature of the 2004 Thunderbirds movie! 🥰
Shout-out to Kate Beckinsale's costume designer! 🔥
Its a very tiny thing but I love that when Selene kneels in front of Viktor that he scoffs at the gestsure and tells her to come closer, like he clearly views her differently than the other vampires. It comes as a big of a shock that he doesn't believe her initially.
I also love that despite superior speed and strength of the Hybrid, they still had Viktor's 1500 years of combat experience allow him to get the upper hand on Michael
I love this franchise, all these movies were amazing
That guy was in one episode of Buffy... and yes, i immediately knew which one (fish boy) the guy was the LEAD in Prison Break for 4 years
Wonder if Simone ever noticed Pedro Pascal in Buffy?
One of the sequels features Rhona Mitra. Before becoming an actress she was the second Lara Croft model used to promote the Tomb Raider game.
She's also done a really good Mad Max-esq brit film called Doomsday which is pretty entertaining.
doomsday... one of the only good things I got out of a relationship with a crazy ex...
Remember they said he was a sole survivor and it was centuries centuries Turning that event into history And then it becoming a legendary story. I doubt the vampires who are not the elders Are too young to know what he looks like.
This movie does a great job of having a later reveal that recontextualizes the whole story
George: "Blarst" is only a _southern, upper-class_ British accent. Up here in t'north and over most of the country, we say "blast". if Sean Bean was using his natural Sheffield accent, he'd say "blast".
Working-class southerners too! But yes, anyone from the midlands upward shortens the vowel and when reactors say “British accent” they really only mean southeast England. I always feel a bit miffed on behalf of the rest of Britain when I hear “British” accent.
@@EnglishRalph is southeast england not part of the british isles? its part of britain so its a british accent. just like if you hear cali or new york or bible belt, its all american accents. its a category, who the f goes out of their way in casual conversation to specify region. thats just weird.
@ I wasn’t suggesting that reactors should say “Upper-class, southeast England accent” but in my experience that is almost always what they mean and my reply was to a statement specifically about regional accents, which was in response to George talking about differing vowel sounds, so it would have been kind of weird not to specify a region. But saying “English” accent would at least narrow it down to a single country. They don’t mean Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish. In the olden days, we would’ve called it “BBC English” because the news presenters all had to sound “proper”.
@@EnglishRalph mate. its a throw away comment as theyre watching a movie. like its casual conversation, you have the benefit of typing your thought out, likely minutes after hearing what he said.
hes just having a conversation in real time with someone while watching a movie. no sane person would go into specifics and think of the little details of region and correct categorizations just incase some ppl from the UK are watching.
@ I’m not saying that anyone sane or otherwise should do that and my comment wasn’t directed at George or other reactors. I don’t care if you all think Britain is just a tiny village where we all say “blarst”, because that’s where me and my accent are from (as are Kate Beckinsale, Bill Nighy, Sophia Myles and Robbie Gee) and you can generalise all you like. However, it’s inaccurate and my geographical and class clarifications were from one Englishman to another. I know a whole bunch of Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish who would say that they are only British through the tyranny of Empire, they hate being lumped in with the English and especially a load of lah-di-dah southern softies whose accent doesn’t even exist in their country. I can empathise but again this was a comment to another Brit, not a stab at George.
There was a great trailer to a movie called Time and Tide, directed by Tsui Hark. The music for that trailer was the same music that Underworld used for their trailer and the music has stayed with me for over 20 years. The song was Red Tape by Agent Provocateur. Love both trailers to those movies.
As the meme goes: "If you are still broke after two hundred years, just step into the sun."
Honestly the Underworld series is probably my favorite vampire/werewolf related movies. Cheesy I think at times but I really love the lore and world building.
"this is a very frank miller shot." Well it was a comic book originally.
*The Original Score was written by Paul Haslinger, who is an Austrian musician and composer.*
"When did this aesthetic begin?"
Rich vampires were from Bram Stoker. Before "Dracula" vampires were ghoulish beasts that lurked in shadows and graveyards like stray wolves. Stoker was drawing a parallel between the ruling class in the severe wealth inequality in Victorian Europe with the bloodsucking undead.
"When did vampires become sexy" succubi and incubi and various other monsters that feed on humans by mimicing sexually attractive humans are in the folklore of nearly every culture. In Greek mythology there are beasts like Lamia and Sirens that have the bodies of apex predators like wolves or large birds of prey, but look and sound like beautiful women from the waist up, so as to lure human males into being their next meal.
But again, vampires did not traditionally have incubus/sucubus abilities until Bram Stoker
Of note, vulnerability to sunlight was a trope that Stoker did NOT use. That was invented by "Nosferatu" the unofficial/knock-off movie adaptation of his book. There are scenes in the book and Coppola's movie with Dracula walking around in broad daylight.
I think Interview with a Vampire also pushed us in the direction of the current depiction of vampires as decadent decay.
The first vampire in prose fiction was Lord Ruthven, an aristocrat, in the 1819 story The Vampyre. Then there were 80 years of vampire fiction before Dracula was published.
Simone : "Wow . That's a lot of werewolves !"
My brain : "There wolf . There Castle !"
"Why are you talking like that ?"
"I thought you wanted to."
"No, I don't want to."
"Suits me, I'm easy."
I LOVE this franchise ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🤍♥
The first three Underworld movies are very good. The second movie is a continuation of Michael and Selene's story. While the third is the prequel, which is set in medieval times, goes into great detail explaining everything, and you get to see more of Amelia.
7:12 This became the vampire aesthetic when Anne Rice published "Interview with a Vampire" and was boosted when the movie of the same name was made.
I would also go back to Dark Shadows 1966. A day-time soap that started out as Gothic mystery. But twisted to vampires and werewolves. Developing a teen flowing, unusual for day-time soaps.
Yes, I was going to say the same. Everyone wanted to be a vampire after reading the Vampire Chronicles.
*Interview with THE Vampire...