"We're from the future, we're from California" give me a break. If California is an image of the future, we are all screwed. These guys are so full of themselves.
2:12 "We're from the future; we're from California!" I live and worked in Silicon Valley for over ten years, and unfortunately, that 'smarter-than-you...better-than-you', smug, self-centered elitist mindset is not uncommon there. 7:58 "...as opposed to a free market, where the winners win....because they're the best..." That it is an _extremely_ naive view. Quite often, those who 'win' in business (realize great profit returns) are those who are willing to utilize unethical means that wouldn't be considered by, or are repugnant to, truly decent people who thereby trumped (pun intended) in their efforts to compete.
Silicon Valley, is the problem with this country, high drug use, high rent, high taxes, company welfare, state tax deductions cost they expect other people to pay , and they complain about government.
not to mention global sweatshops and polluted oceans and the like. Imagine how fast this would all fold-up if there were no planned obsolescence in this tech jazz. BTW that is really all this bs is. Finding ways to never finish anything/ Keep it all in update stage and milk the customer for decades.
Very interesting. However, I have been part of this valley for 35 years. I find many many more left leaning folks than more freedom leaning folks. Actual libertarians are rather marginalized. I also have seen the valley go from the dreams of "Computer Power to the People" and other dreams to "make a mint as quickly and effectively as possible". Yes there are still wonderful dreamers here but there is also a LOT of inertia. You see people go from "Think Differently" to sue the asses off of anyone that may do something similar and lock out innovators and hackers that founded these empires.
These are very stupid people. These are hardly innovators or dreamers. These are people one tiny step removed from a drive-in movie theater swap meet. Most of them operate sweatshops internationally. Their planned obsolescence garbage piles liter much of the third world and oceans. It is Capitalism at warp speed.
These people are straight up WEIRD.... They themselves act and talk robotic, like no feelings, emotions, like fake people, can't imagine being in a relationship with someone like them.
Thiel, "Sovereignty". Unbelievable what you can get away with saying by having enough zeros in your bank balance. Anyone feeling the liberty and sovereignty of technology? All I feel is that I used to be served but now I have to do everything myself and back luck to me when the program/app/"system" hasn't been coded to accept another answer. I have to disagree with the premise of computers and automation making life simpler or better or more advanced, mine has become orders of magnitude more complex with much wasted time. I can't reason with silicon chips. Bring back humans!!!!
You will never have the end of government as long as you have interaction among people. You can get it down to a dull roar but you will never eliminate it.
Unfortunate they chose to concentrate on a few high-profile futurist visions (those of Tim Draper + Peter Thiel) which don't really line up with the majority in the valley. There are MANY who think technology can improve governments - not everyone in tech thinks gov't is a lost cause.
I'm not sure if these people- ( many of whom exhibit sociopathic characteristics ) realise how comical their strutting and swaggering appears to a European audience. Okay there are a lot of cultural differences but at times, this comes across as a comedy show.
Tell you what, if you allow rattlesnakes like the creatures depicted in this documentary to "shape" how your society develops, you better say goodbye to any form of democracy.
incongra maybe, but only maybe, the big data driven collective awareness about expanding plutocracy will let SV come up with an innovative solution against its detrimental effects yet again. for sure, EU like bureaucracy won't find such solutions and just applies old rules: tax more, fall back to communism.
I actually agree with what you say but I'm not sure the untrammelled maverick capitalism we see depicted here is quite the answer we're all looking for either. Once you start categorising humans by whether or not they "add value" where does it all end? And it's no surprise these people hate "government" ( or as we normally prefer to call it, democracy).... Interesting that we both frame our arguments using the 20th century paradigms of "capitalist versus communism" though, isn't it?
Brilliant and inspiring, thankyou for this. We can build a better, more just, fairer and more prosperous world with technology, in which people's human rights are respected across the board and each can live the kind of life he likes. Love this.
George Donnelly This. Not technoplutocracy. The thing i dont like about some of these people is that they have little compassion, respect or empathy with other lifestyles and sometimes lifeforms. That's the kind of elite and imperialistic capitalism we should avoid. Can technology help doing that? Yes.
43:22 Competitive governance is NOT a good thing. It's what has allowed corporate taxes to fall as each tried to outdo one another to get the off shore tax dollars.
and people wondered why Barack Obama did what Reagan didn't, authorized new nuclear development. Well it is simple, Obama is nothing more than a puppet of Cyber Utopians.
Does sentience develop with increased complexity? Can an anthill be sentient? If you are part of a larger being like a neuron is part of a human brain, are you aware of it being sentient? Can the internet be conscious? Can the Earth be conscious? The galaxy, the universe, ... 🤔 So how much does LSD cost in Silicon Valley these days? 😄
Blah blah! This is Nerd Nation meets the Immortals. Tech guys bang on about value chains, but how much real value do tech firms add? Google tech sector contribution to GDP via wages and tax revenue, (minus tax breaks/evasion). It is a tiny percentage. Now to the real agenda. Notice how narrow the tech workforce is? Yet tech is everywhere. The architects write the 'script' and OUR programs are literally at the touch of a button. Decode Draper's superhero murals and his infant mastery fantasies and you find the new ruling class. They're all wannabe Clark Kents: part systems thinker, part demi-god, total Eugenicists wet dream! The global technocracy they want to bring in is simply Feudalism by another name.
@@MS-il3ht everything that has power is a single edged sword. can be used for good and EVIL , its up to humanity to judge what is real and what isnt, it is up to humanity to keep evil in check. EVIL IS WINNING
findthebest timed out. Apparently Capitalism doesn't like transparency. Free Markets do which has very little to do with Capitalism actually. Eliminating competition and hiding the quality of your products and services is a core principle of Capitalism. The counter is Free Markets. Sadly we do not have free markets in too many areas which are dying for some air.
I am more of a disruptor than any of these clowns. I carry a plastic bottle with me at all times and wash my derriere instead of using toilet paper. I changed the world (my world) for the better. The money it saves me is trivial but at the end of the day at least I have something to show for it.
SOUNDS LIKE LOGANS RUN, HE DIDNT MENTION ALL THOSE INCARCERATED OR THE THOUSANDS OF HOMELESS. IGUESS THERE ALL BE GATHERD UP AND SHIPPED TOO AUSTRALIA.
These guys don't live in the real world. Soul less buildings. Note that their people are "given" .. fortunes. These people haven't at all solved any real problems other than the ones of their imagination. Their tools are actually very damaging to humanity and to life. They worship materialism. In my mind they are not as advanced in their thinking as they think they are. They continue to work with the left brain only. Left brain on steroids. "The best minds" these guys have a superior complex and some mental stagnation. There is not one problem in the world that they have worked to solve. They didn't even divide California in a manner that it should have been divided for practicality and function to all of the states or the the benefit for the future. These younger men and a few women are stunted 7th graders.
Sounds like a bunch of evil, communist and self-centered to me. Not a feature I want for my family. I'm happy with my Father in heaven and grateful for my Jesus my savior! I'm happy to be part of the real no matter how tough it gets.
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"We're from the future, we're from California" give me a break. If California is an image of the future, we are all screwed. These guys are so full of themselves.
2:12 "We're from the future; we're from California!" I live and worked in Silicon Valley for over ten years, and unfortunately, that 'smarter-than-you...better-than-you', smug, self-centered elitist mindset is not uncommon there. 7:58 "...as opposed to a free market, where the winners win....because they're the best..." That it is an _extremely_ naive view. Quite often, those who 'win' in business (realize great profit returns) are those who are willing to utilize unethical means that wouldn't be considered by, or are repugnant to, truly decent people who thereby trumped (pun intended) in their efforts to compete.
Silicon Valley, is the problem with this country, high drug use, high rent, high taxes, company welfare, state tax deductions cost they expect other people to pay , and they complain about government.
not to mention global sweatshops and polluted oceans and the like. Imagine how fast this would all fold-up if there were no planned obsolescence in this tech jazz. BTW that is really all this bs is. Finding ways to never finish anything/ Keep it all in update stage and milk the customer for decades.
Very interesting. However, I have been part of this valley for 35 years. I find many many more left leaning folks than more freedom leaning folks. Actual libertarians are rather marginalized. I also have seen the valley go from the dreams of "Computer Power to the People" and other dreams to "make a mint as quickly and effectively as possible". Yes there are still wonderful dreamers here but there is also a LOT of inertia. You see people go from "Think Differently" to sue the asses off of anyone that may do something similar and lock out innovators and hackers that founded these empires.
+Samantha Atkins Yep, these guys are the minority. Most Valley people would have an heart attack considering the idea presented here seriously.
These are very stupid people. These are hardly innovators or dreamers. These are people one tiny step removed from a drive-in movie theater swap meet. Most of them operate sweatshops internationally. Their planned obsolescence garbage piles liter much of the third world and oceans. It is Capitalism at warp speed.
I sense the same thing
These people are straight up WEIRD.... They themselves act and talk robotic, like no feelings, emotions, like fake people, can't imagine being in a relationship with someone like them.
These are the new 1%ers
Thiel, "Sovereignty". Unbelievable what you can get away with saying by having enough zeros in your bank balance.
Anyone feeling the liberty and sovereignty of technology?
All I feel is that I used to be served but now I have to do everything myself and back luck to me when the program/app/"system" hasn't been coded to accept another answer.
I have to disagree with the premise of computers and automation making life simpler or better or more advanced, mine has become orders of magnitude more complex with much wasted time. I can't reason with silicon chips. Bring back humans!!!!
You will never have the end of government as long as you have interaction among people. You can get it down to a dull roar but you will never eliminate it.
the Game, and that is what economics is, always needs a referee. The problem is when the adult in the building is corrupted.
intresting documentary until people started stating they were like gods...what an unhealthy level of pride, do not fall for that.
10:30 The startup seen here is dead. You are witnessing people work on nothing in this shot.
One of the best Documentary. Bravo VPRO...
Thank you Michael, we are happy to read your comment.
In one sentence: "We are the gods"
I like how just when she said "Pioneer" it showed "PIE" on the wall of the WIRED magazine office. Syncronicity
Hard to figure out at first if this was parody. Unfortunately for it's producers, apparently not. Merely unintentionally funny.
+Zachary Braverman Peter Thiel's accent sounds scarily like Zuckerberg. Never before have I heard so much garbage in one video.
Unfortunate they chose to concentrate on a few high-profile futurist visions (those of Tim Draper + Peter Thiel) which don't really line up with the majority in the valley. There are MANY who think technology can improve governments - not everyone in tech thinks gov't is a lost cause.
10:58 "We are the Borg, Resistance is futile"
BS
19:03 Thiel and zukerberg's voices sound very similar!!!!
I'm not sure if these people- ( many of whom exhibit sociopathic characteristics ) realise how comical their strutting and swaggering appears to a European audience. Okay there are a lot of cultural differences but at times, this comes across as a comedy show.
+
well, I kinda expected comments like that. What did we copy exactly? - healthcare? employment law? Internet?
Tell you what, if you allow rattlesnakes like the creatures depicted in this documentary to "shape" how your society develops, you better say goodbye to any form of democracy.
incongra maybe, but only maybe, the big data driven collective awareness about expanding plutocracy will let SV come up with an innovative solution against its detrimental effects yet again. for sure, EU like bureaucracy won't find such solutions and just applies old rules: tax more, fall back to communism.
I actually agree with what you say but I'm not sure the untrammelled maverick capitalism we see depicted here is quite the answer we're all looking for either. Once you start categorising humans by whether or not they "add value" where does it all end? And it's no surprise these people hate "government" ( or as we normally prefer to call it, democracy).... Interesting that we both frame our arguments using the 20th century paradigms of "capitalist versus communism" though, isn't it?
Winners win sometimes not because they're good, but because they are born closer to the summit
Brilliant and inspiring, thankyou for this. We can build a better, more just, fairer and more prosperous world with technology, in which people's human rights are respected across the board and each can live the kind of life he likes. Love this.
George Donnelly This. Not technoplutocracy. The thing i dont like about some of these people is that they have little compassion, respect or empathy with other lifestyles and sometimes lifeforms. That's the kind of elite and imperialistic capitalism we should avoid. Can technology help doing that? Yes.
Mother Teresa had all the empathy for the world but invented nothing.
@Winston maraj: Do you need to invent something to be inspiring?
Of course not!I was answering the folks who reject the coming of the Brave New World.They are all over the place-then normal "Luddites.'
+George Donnelly Silicon valley reminds me of a cult. And it will end the same way cults end
Awesome documentary !!
Those of us who were young in the sixties know deja vue all over again when we hear it.
@ around 20:20 "... wearing pink bunny fur ... and dancing in The Heat ... "
The anagram for HEAT ...
Is HATE ~○~
43:22 Competitive governance is NOT a good thing. It's what has allowed corporate taxes to fall as each tried to outdo one another to get the off shore tax dollars.
19,20 mins.
''Politics has become so broken and so dysfunctional!''..... and how!
Hi, is there spanish versión?
At the end only two questions are asked, which leaves us with the same duality paradox every individual must seek to outgrow. ~○~
@what did he say at @1:45
did he say 'protestant church in Max Weber's era?'
i can't make out what he said
yes h said that
We need more plumbers 😛😛
sorry, someone has data of music that sounds at the end of the documentary, author, url youtube
Silly _Con...Valley.
L😳L
You want Skynet? Cause this is how you get Skynet
I for one welcome our new overlords!
These are the same type shit holes who promised meter-less electricity with no downside through the use of nuclear power.
and people wondered why Barack Obama did what Reagan didn't, authorized new nuclear development. Well it is simple, Obama is nothing more than a puppet of Cyber Utopians.
Does sentience develop with increased complexity? Can an anthill be sentient? If you are part of a larger being like a neuron is part of a human brain, are you aware of it being sentient? Can the internet be conscious? Can the Earth be conscious? The galaxy, the universe, ... 🤔 So how much does LSD cost in Silicon Valley these days? 😄
Blah blah! This is Nerd Nation meets the Immortals. Tech guys bang on about value chains, but how much real value do tech firms add? Google tech sector contribution to GDP via wages and tax revenue, (minus tax breaks/evasion). It is a tiny percentage.
Now to the real agenda. Notice how narrow the tech workforce is? Yet tech is everywhere. The architects write the 'script' and OUR programs are literally at the touch of a button. Decode Draper's superhero murals and his infant mastery fantasies and you find the new ruling class. They're all wannabe Clark Kents: part systems thinker, part demi-god, total Eugenicists wet dream! The global technocracy they want to bring in is simply Feudalism by another name.
You're using TH-cam right now, Idiot
@@MS-il3ht everything that has power is a single edged sword. can be used for good and EVIL , its up to humanity to judge what is real and what isnt, it is up to humanity to keep evil in check. EVIL IS WINNING
Wondering if you was to "Reverse polarize" a space rocket would help ir take off etc etc
The minute he mentioned Ayn Rand he lost me. There are no bigger takers than large companies that do not pay taxes.
Here at the point of World change April 2020 this seems an important aspect video.
#Thetimeisnow
This video made me even more of a communist
YOU GUYS HAVE A CELL PHONE I CAN USE???
@19:40 very interesting segment
31:55 blew my mind
.....but.....we all know what happened to Prometheus. Right? Those who the gods want to destroy they first pedestalize.
findthebest timed out. Apparently Capitalism doesn't like transparency. Free Markets do which has very little to do with Capitalism actually. Eliminating competition and hiding the quality of your products and services is a core principle of Capitalism. The counter is Free Markets. Sadly we do not have free markets in too many areas which are dying for some air.
45:30 we are 2020 and just now Elon Musk launched his first SpaceX rocket to start visiting Mars. It's reality now...
I am more of a disruptor than any of these clowns. I carry a plastic bottle with me at all times and wash my derriere instead of using toilet paper. I changed the world (my world) for the better. The money it saves me is trivial but at the end of the day at least I have something to show for it.
And no wonder why this state is messed up.
Sad
Do they really have that power?
Boundaries and more boundaries from the elite of the elite.
SOUNDS LIKE LOGANS RUN, HE DIDNT MENTION ALL THOSE INCARCERATED OR THE THOUSANDS OF HOMELESS. IGUESS THERE ALL BE GATHERD UP AND SHIPPED TOO AUSTRALIA.
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4 years later and bitcoin still sucks
Draper's probably right that california is too big. It's the population of Canada...
This is creating a bunch of supine sycophants who jump and do what they are told to do by their boss like dancing to we are happy
These guys don't live in the real world. Soul less buildings. Note that their people are "given" .. fortunes. These people haven't at all solved any real problems other than the ones of their imagination. Their tools are actually very damaging to humanity and to life. They worship materialism. In my mind they are not as advanced in their thinking as they think they are. They continue to work with the left brain only. Left brain on steroids. "The best minds" these guys have a superior complex and some mental stagnation. There is not one problem in the world that they have worked to solve. They didn't even divide California in a manner that it should have been divided for practicality and function to all of the states or the the benefit for the future. These younger men and a few women are stunted 7th graders.
Zero wisdom.
cocain
Cyberdystopia!
#GodsFriend
this guy's confused.
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Were from the future, were from California...people shitting all over side walks
Sounds like a bunch of evil, communist and self-centered to me. Not a feature I want for my family. I'm happy with my Father in heaven and grateful for my Jesus my savior! I'm happy to be part of the real no matter how tough it gets.
:D
buuuu, bubble
They are not athletes lmao
Lol right I guess they must be cyber athletes
worst intro I ever seen I believe