Fox GRIP2 vs FIT4 / Which is best for you?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 พ.ย. 2018
- For 2019, Fox offers two different dampers in their Float 36 forks; the GRIP2 and the FIT4.
Although the GRIP2 damper is brand spankin' new and feels amazing, I believe it may not be the better choice for some riders.
Check out the video to figure out which will be better for you while you're either upgrading your current fork or building up a new bike with some sweet Fox suspension!
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Which rider type are you? Rider A or Rider B???
Most definitely rider B. Lol. Set it and rip!!!
@@ridingwiththereids The more fun way of setup! 😂
@@TheLostCo lol exactly. If I bottom out, I just add a little more air. That's about it. But I also have a cheap suntour fork...
@@ridingwiththereids Hey whatever gets the job done!
B
Rider B is me.... like 100x over.... If only people saw me saying "I think I adjusted my rebound settings on this thing..... yeah I think I did" 😂 - Great video Mike!
Definitely “B”. I move the knobs around and then go for a ride and go hmm... I didn’t fall off my bike so it must be okay.
Lol josh your acting is great lol
Man, it's just one of best video explanation/review I have ever seen. Definitely the best opening story :))
Yessss, exact video I was looking for with every question answered. Subbed.
I Have a non adjustable fork with rim brakes, why am I watching this?
It's been a year, have you upgraded yet?
@@dyremtb5026 lmao
No need to bragg about it, I only have a steel tube!
its been 3 years did u upgraded it yet?
Have you upgraded?
Great video, thanks for the info! I just did the Grip2 upgrade on my Fox 40, from the Fit4. Very easy to swap out, and what a big difference!
This is probably the best video on fox forks I’ve ever seen. Thank you for making this so easy to understand!
The scenes out on the trail were hilarious. More of that, please! Great video. Clears up a mystery. Thanks.
Brother, hands down the best fork description video I’ve ever seen! You know your shit and that makes a guy like me who is a suspension geek Uber happy! Keep up the Brilliant work!
Thanks so much for the kind words, dude!! Glad I could entertain ya!!
love the out takes or blooper part to this video, you should always add them in or at the end as extras cause they give a real life feel to it and make it all more relaxing and fun know we are all mere mortals that have a passion for mountain biking.
Agree
Great video thanks. Had my Grip2 about 3 weeks and what an amazing fork. Set up mine within 3 rides using the ShockWiz and now feels amazing. Money well spend.
Nice man thats great to hear!!! I love my GRIP2 fork!
Great run down man, I love the detail...just what I was looking for.....really appreciated!
I’m definitely rider B. Set it and forget it 👍🏼 you guys are really doing well with these videos. Keep it up Mike 🤘🏼
. This was awesome!!! Great video. I hope your channel grows because it is great!
Great video. I'm definitely rider B. I'm in the process of understanding the different types of dampers and didn't have any idea of these things, my original concern was more focused on having the 3 positions on the fork which is pretty much the only thing that I use during my rides
Mike, I love your videos. You are very knowledgeable and passionate about bikes. Please keep it up!
Exactly the video I was looking for! Thanks, subbed
Heck yeah! Glad you and enjoyed and happy to have you along for the ride!
Are you looking to get a new Fox fork? If so, give me a ring at the shop and I'll help you get one! The shop number is 360-306-8827.
Rider A: I tried all the helmets in the shop, for the right fit.
Rider B: My small head fits XXXL just fine.. let’s gooo already!
This was a great video. I was on the fence about getting the fit for damper but thanks to your video and explanation definitely going with the fit for as I'm the kind of guy who just wants to ride and not tinker!
Most definitely rider B. Just twist knobs until shit feels good and send it 😁
Thanks for the video and info. The fox fork is way outta my price range, but it's nice to see what's available out there. Also subscibed 😎
LOL turn knobs and send shit... that needs to be a sticker and shirt haha.
Thanks for the subscribe and good words! Glad to have you along for the ride!!
Lol you make the shirts and I'd gladly wear one 😉😁
Just found this! Good stuff. I did find that with the Grip2, a Shockwiz was a huge help. Got my fork tuned in a day.
Thanks for posting this!
I'm using a friend's Shockwiz on my Fit4 damper Factory 34 and the LSC only, single rebound adjustment is a bit frustrating. Weird that a SRAM product has me shopping for a Fox upgrade, lol.
Awsome video. Explained in detail and doesnt leave you guessing. 👍🏻
I've been looking at fox forks and kept wondering wth was the difference. Your video popped up a
With the exact answer. Damn good video broham. I'd like the Grip2 but I'm more of a I just wanna ride type so Fit4 sounds like a winner.
I have a Grip didn't have a time to set up properly (ski season came up on us), for sure will check your video and did I mention I subbed, thank you!
Awesome video as usual! Thanks
The beginning of this video if funny! Thanks for the info guys.
Another great video, thanks again.
Going from a recon to the orange factory 36 gonna be so nice
Thanks for helping me decide.
Good vid. Rider A vs B is a solid philosophy to start with. I've tried both forks and really liked both. Where I believe Grip2 is better is with Big brands that are just borrowing geometry trends from niche brands & haven't thought through the overall kinematics & thus extra adjustment is well appreciated or just super OCD Type A riders. Fit4 is terrific for good niche brands because the geometry & kinematics is painstakingly thought through. For example Pivot or Transition, loved Fit4 on those bikes, yet those brands really think through everything & thus you pay more but get more which equals less to think through on settings vs. big brands. My 2 cents. Totally OK to disagree cause if you do...just means you,'re passionate abt Mtb 🤘
You deserve way more subs man, you make some awesome videos! 🤘
Thanks Nick!!! I just started the channel recently and haven't had a ton of time lately to put up constant videos. Might close the shop for the winter to just focus on filming!!
Mister Lost Bike Shop No problem!! Nice man, the shop looks sick too! I’m sure all of your subscribers would love that I know I would, keep the awesome content coming!! 🤘One thing I wanted to ask you was your thoughts on two bikes that I am in between purchasing for next summer 2019. Right now I am in between the YT Capra 29 and the YT jeffsy 27. I don’t know which to go with, I will be taking the bike to killington bike park in Vermont around 2-4 times a month and I will also be using it on my local single track trails. If you have any insight on these bikes or if you have any other suggestions it would be great to hear them! Cheers!
@@nick-knock Thats an easy one!
Bike Park = Capra 😎
Seriously though! The Capra will make you happier in the bike park, and they pedal pretty dang good!
Mister Lost Bike Shop that’s what I was thinking too! Haha thanks so much for the input man! And If I’m ever in Bellingham (which I hope to get out there one day, seems like some pretty sweet trails) I’ll have to stop by and check out the shop 🤘
Great video! I've got the Fit4 from 2018, but it has the same HSC, LSC dampening control as the Grip2 in your video (just not the independant hi/lo rebound adjuster), so I guess my fork is for the rider between A and B!
Hey Kit! The damper you have is referred to as their FIT HSC/LSC. This damper has been phased out to the new GRIP2 damper which is the upgraded replacement for that damper in the Fox lineup.
That damper was great too! If you ever feel like you'd like to have that adjustable high-speed rebound, you can easily swap out your damper with a GRIP2 which you can order from me @ misterlost.com/forks/2019-fox-36-grip2-damper-upgrade-kit
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thanks for this video.... i finally understood my fox 32 fit 4 damper...👍
man that was great. thanks. very helpful.
This is a great guide.
I have a question about how this relates to the 2019 Fox 34 forks. On the 36 forks, the Grip2 is more expensive than the Fit4, which is totally understandable. But, on the 34, the Grip fork costs less than the Fit4. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Is the Grip Damper on the 34 fork anything like the Grip2 on the 36 fork?
I'm definitely a Type B rider. I currently have a Float 32 CTD on a 2015 Trance 2 and I'm thinking I might update it. I like being able to lock out the fork, so it seems like the Fit4 would be best for me.
Thoughts?
Hey Mike, I'm thinking about the Grip2 after seeing the review. I do a lot of looong climbs on paved roads to get to the top of my trails(DH world cup rated).
Currently I ride a 34 Fit4 and because of paved roads I really appreciate the lockout feature of the Fit4.
How would you compare the lockout of the FIT4 vs GRIP2 with closed compression dials(Is it strong enough to not give when stand pedaling up hill?)...? Thanks ✌
Very useful video and very well explained. Thanks a lot! I’m clearly a rider type B.
Let me ask you a (freak) question: are there differences in terms of weight between the Fit4 and the Grip2?
Subscribed to your channel. Greatings from a fellow TH-camr from Spain
Newb here to MTB and your videos are a huge help. Thx!!
You are very welcome!
Great video. Really great
Nice video. Are there any 3D simulations which explains how damper works in general?
hey mike! love your videos man! I was wondering if I can install a grip2 damper on my 2014 FOX 34 FIT fork? I'm getting ready to rebuild and thought it would be the right time.
Best fork I have tried is the Rock Shox Judy on my old bike, now I got a Suntour coil on my new bike. I think I will be more than happy with any Fox 34 FIT4/GRIP2 model I will choose as my upgrade. Bought the cheapest version of a good-framed branded mtb on sale, to choose the upgrades that I want, instead of getting a high-end version, with only so-so parts.
A fox 34 rhythm can be replaced for a fox 36? Great video, thanks.
Well explained I’m type B rider with a new fork after set up first week or two I dial most one or two more clicks or add more bottom out Tokons
I’d like to put a grip2 in my 36 but I use my lockout alot on my fit4. How stiff can i make the grip2 compared to fit4 for pedaling???
Guess I’m rider A and I’ll be going with the grip 2 thanks broham
Thank you for the great video. Can I ask which it better between a Fit Grip 38 (Float Performance) or a Grip2 36 (Performance Elite)? Thank You!
Great video! Lots of really good info. Any plans on doing one similar with the Fox 34's?
In Factory spec, there is only the FIT4 damper for 34. In lower tier Performance series the GRIP damper has a simpler compression lever (incrementally open through to locked) with no low speed compression adjustment.
This is why i love my Lyric 19 its like a plug and play no need to do any shit just straight shredding out of the box
I honestly had no idea that there was this fit 4 and grip 2 damper I thought they were the same thing. I literally had no idea what they did 😂
Can you go over some DVO stuff? I know they have similar adjustments and more like OTT. They just don't have low and high speed rebound... side by side what is better DVO Diamond or Fox 36 grip
Before watching this video, I had my heart set on getting the Grip2 damper, but now I’m not so sure. My current fork (34 Rhythm) has the Grip damper (basically only a lockout lever and rebound adjust) and I’m pretty happy with it. I mainly want Factory for the lighter weight as well as to match to the Kashima of my DPX2 shock, so I think I may just go with the Fit4
I just bought the 36 in 150mm with fit4 because bizarrely fox wont sell the grip2 as 150mm but they told me i can buy it as a 160mm and then get a shorter air piston to reduce the travel to 150mm. This makes no sense.
Very good video. I have Fit4 inside my Fox 38 160mm. After 300km I have notice interesting behavior: riding down hill above 25-30 km / h suddenly damper start to be perfectly smooth and feels like flowing (perfect damping, perfect control). In opposite with low speed , below 25km/h feels less comfortable.
Wondering it is wrong adjustment of my Fit4 or this is just normal behavior of Fit4. To increase low speed comfort/control I should change for Grip2?
is the grip 2 a good fork to do descents as well as climbing?
"Nice and dry out"... lol! I love PNW winter riding.
Hahahahaha
incredibly helpful video, im for sure rider B lol
Nice job, I went from a 3 year old pike to a fit 4 last year and couldn't be happier, that I know of, I am the guy that will spend time getting it dialed in right away then I better write it down cause I leave it alone from there on. I usually seek out alot of the same terrain that I love to ride so I think I got the right one.
Sounds like the FIT4 was definitely for you! They're awesome dampers!!
Hollywood here, we need you asap
Awesome video ❤
Nice review. I have the Fit4 on a 34FOX and love it and pretty much just set it and forget it. I only weigh 160 and my trails are not that aggressive plus it’s on a hardtail. I’m actually building another hardtail SS and see the new 34FOX has the Grip2 option. I don’t know if I would notice the marginal improvement on a Grip2 so I’ll probably just get another Fit4.
great info
Nice video Mike
Great video! I have no,problem with the high and low compression. The hi and low rebound are giving me a fit! Got it where I fell good cuz out trails here in the east are so rocky and rooty and not much dirt. Should I try a shock,wiz? I always go by way it feels but the rebound shit got me crazy!
Hey Harold! Did you happen to watch my GRIP2 setup video? That should help you fine tune your rebound to get it feeling super dialed. Check it out @ th-cam.com/video/D9vsOHmmmpo/w-d-xo.html
Mike, I'm a midwest kid looking at building a new hardtail. I am thinking about the Fox 34, since we don't have a ton of downhill here, would the GRIP2 not be recommended over the FIT4?
Gives me an idea what to wear in a wet trail. A freaking checkered long sleeves…😆✌🏼
It is possible "update" a 36 model 2016 with 2018 fit4 hydraulic damper?
I'm Type B, with the power of Shockwiz 😎
Jordy- "it's fine, no further adjustment needed"
Great video! I guess like most people that haven't had the chance to be on lots of different bikes, I was curious if a grip2 on a slash would be able to "lockout"/firm up enough by maximizing the LSC to pedal more for my more mediocre midwest single track. I am NOT a big enduro guy or even a great rider, just have the chance to grab a good deal on a bigger travel bike with a F36 with grip 2. Curious if its even worth it for my midwest trails or if ill just be miserable and should hold out for a more mid-travel bike in the first place. Thanks for any of your advice!
I am a midwest rider too. I am interested in the grip 2. I hardly use my lockout on my trek slash 8 that has a 160mm Yari. I was planning on upgrading to a custom built remedy with a fox36 grip 2. I am still not set on doing it yet though. I don't mind the fit4 setup on my hard tail santa cruz chamleon.
Hey buddy! Does kashima coat fades when it get’s older?
Great vid ☝️
would you please make a full tutorial video on how to set up grip 2 fox 38 fork. I really need it.
Great video thanks! One question: What shirt is Josh wearing? 10:45
Can you do a video on the Pike RCT3... i have no idea what all the fancy adjustments do. Other then locking the fork out lol.... AWESOME video BTW!!!
Hey dude! Check out this video: th-cam.com/video/D9vsOHmmmpo/w-d-xo.html
It covers the Fox adjustments, but other than the high speed rebound on the Fox, your Pike RCT3 will work the same way! Happy new year!!
Thanks for this video... I was about to grab the FIT4 not knowing what the GRIP2 is lol
Isn't the sr suntour durolux r2c2 basically a grip 3 damper? It has high and low speed compression as well as high and low speed rebound. It also has a negative coil .
Type B+ I like to tinker but set it and forget it while riding. Currently have the FIT4, but have looked into possibly replacing the damper with the GRIP2 later on.
Haha me too! If you want to swap out the damper, you can order the GRIP2 Damper Kit from me @ misterlost.com/forks/2019-fox-36-grip2-damper-upgrade-kit
will using a shockwiz help me get this dialled in "perfectly"?
Are they both equally serviceable in terms of complexity?
LOL "My dirt bags" I love it.
Do u think I should switch my 2016 pike rct3 140mm for the 2019 fox36 rythm with grip 160mm? On my titus el guapo 29er. The frame can take a 160mm fork. I am planning to get one on a very good deal.
I've got a set of Fox 32 with the Grip system and buggar me, I can't find the "perfect" setup. There's too many settings but I love it. The lockout system is absolutely fantastic and the damping is sublime.
@@demortorman I found a good middle ground in the end and dropped 5ml oil into the air chamber. The sheer range of adjustment took me a while to get right though. Spent ages looking for perfection, a click here, a clock there kind of thing.
@The Lost Co. I just bought a 2021 Cannondale Trail SE 2 bike which has a Rock Shox 35 Silver R, 120mm, 15x110 thru-axle, 51mm offset. I want to switch the fork to a Fox fork but I’m having trouble deciding which is the best fit Fox fork for that bike. I know I am a B type rider so I’d want the Fit4 and I also know I’d like to go with a Step Cast. I don’t mind spending the money on the Factory Fox forks but I prefer the black stanchions so the Performance Elite or Performance will be what I’ll likely choose from. My main question is should I get a 32,34 or 36? I have no clue what size stanchion best suits that bike. I weigh 205lbs and I use the bike to get back and forth to work and keep in shape and on days off I ride it in trails in state parks I go to. My bike has 120mm travel, would you recommend staying at 120mm? My local bike shop that just closed said he won’t go above 130mm on that bike. Also a lot of the blacked out Performance Elite or Performance forks have 44mm offset and mine is 51mm offset, should I make sure I get a fork with 51mm offset or could I use 44mm offset?
other than the adjustability, is there a difference in the “feel” of the dampers? For instance, is one more plush feeling than the other
I haven't ridden both 2019 FIT4 back to back with the GRIP2, but I have heard some people say the GRIP2 is slightly more sensitive than the FIT4. I didn't include it in this video because if you're not super in tune with how your suspension is working and go with the FIT4, then you probably won't feel the small difference between the two.
I have Fox 36 orange RC2. Plan to upgrade the damper to Grip2 or Push ACS3. Any thoughts please? Thanks in advance. Price is similar anyway
Looks like a good hardtail trail... LOL! Great video bro!
Haha are you on a hardtail?
Mister Lost Bike Shop yeah a Diamondback Syncr and my boy rides the Syncr 24.
Got a rockshox pike... Why am i watching this!?
HAHA! The answer is: because you are a mountain biker, you are naturally a tinkerer and are always considering how different things feel on the trail! Thats actual why I enjoy bikes so much, because its s super personal feeling between you and your bike. Your car might have worn out tires, suspension is beat down, etc, but you don't exactly have that much of a connection between your hands, brain, and the vehicle. With a bike, though, there's not as much going on as with a car and you can feel every little difference.
That was a long answer to a short question! 😂
Because you are aspirational :)
@@th_js bro, I saw you again
@@th_js yup, I say this every time
@@th_js it's currently 20:10 here in Switzerland, but have a good one to bro
Thanks! Very informative! 😃 Subscribed!
Thanks man!! Glad to have you along for the ride!
lol if I get stationed up in the PNW, your shop is gonna be the new hangout spot. Plus that mobile bike truck is slick.
Rider A is worst type on the trail lol
You are the suspension GOD
What about the fit grip? How how is it differ among those forks?
Nice. Subscribed!
i concede to install an mrp ramp controll in to my grip2 180 mm fork. what did u thik about the mrp in generall ? and is it woth it so change voliume depens on the terrain
That trail looks similar to the ones I ride in winter in the UK. What tyres do you recommend for wet but fairly hard pack rooty trails?
I ride the WTB Vigilante 2.5 Light/High Grip in the front and the Judge 2.4 Tough/Fast Rolling in the rear and its a damn good setup for any type of wet riding!!
Hi, Your video was very helpful.
I have Fox 36 Grip 2 (180 mm). Just bought it. I ride gnarly, rocky trails. How do you recommend me to set it up? My weight is 80 kg with my gear.
Thanks.
Hey there! I would recommend setting up your fork exactly how I show to set it up in this video. You'll have your fork feeling super dialed after following my steps!
I love the Lacroix cheers.
If I start out with a Fit4 can I upgrade to a Grip2 later? Thank you for all the great info!
Earnest Harvey
Yes. Check the fox website.
Available only for the 36 forks.
Complicated situation; My wife and I are building a tandem for Sea Otter. Can a 36 handle that type of load? Or would you just go straight to a 40? I’m about 140lbs, she is maybe 110lbs.
Additionally, is grip 2 and Fit4 even options on the 40?
can you make a video of the fox x2 set up tips and tricks? thanks!
Planning on it! Just waiting to get a time when me and my mechanic have an entire day to spend out in the woods filming it.
Sick video!
Thanks a ton!!