Also Tatiana : « I don’t really have a technique » I strongly recommand the Audiotree performance which is out of this world + Pit of consciousness live in Kiev. At least for you to listen. At least !
They also have a “live in the beastiarium” from their first album and it’s amazing how great they sounded in their beginning. Just been honing the craft ever since.
Lol tati has not formally trained from anybody but she has absolutely mastered self trial-by-error technique that works for her for both harshes, cleans and also phrasing and structuring Vocal lines over such crazy proggy djenty music with a million complex time signature changes 😂😂
I was excited to recognize that Tatiana is constantly doing exactly what your new exercises in SingTogether 365 are teaching us how to do! That line “I had to try on the armour” is a perfect example. I’m discovering that not only am I learning to sing at new levels of skill and proficiency from your videos and courses but I’m also learning to listen and to hear. Sooo exciting!!! ✨🔥🙌
I fell in love with Jinjer in 2015-2016 when I was in a very dark place in my life. I've followed their music since then, and they have never stopped impressing me with their creativity and talent. The interview on Audiotree shows the kind of mentality they have to reach the pinnacle of success in music. But, as their lyrics say, I wonder, "Is it lonely on the top?"
Your excitement towards vocals is refreshihg....it is always a joy to see someone in their element. As always, you being able to break down both cleans and harsh vocals and demonstrate them as well helps us all understand and appreciate the music even more. That's a gift. Have a super great fucking day and keep rocking. 🤘
Love ur videos Chris! You've been a great help in my singing journey. Can you do more videos about singing the closed vowels? For me it's especially hard in the middle of my range but its way easier to sing the closed vowels up high.
I love this new song by Jinjer, always love Jinjer! I've done some amateur dabbling in music, but I love hearing musicians talk about Jinjer, they're just so good! I love the portrayals in video of Joan of Arc, Marie Curie and (I think) Georgia O'Keeffe, although since we know Tatiana loves Frida Kahlo (as do I) because of that tattoo on her arm, I will always think of that character in this video as Georgia O'Keeffe on the outside and Frida Kahlo on the inside. Great reaction and vocal analysis! Thank you, Chris, for bringing more of the fantastic music of Jinjer to more people! ❤️ 🖤 🤘
Love your analysis so damn much. Always picking up on things I never would have seen even after hundreds of listens. I would love to see you analyse “Pit of Consciousness” live in Kiev. Some of the most brutal lows, but also mixed in some banshee screams on top. Delicious.
^I second this motion^ 😄 It's my favourite thing about Tati's harsh vocals.. not only the range but the way she can transition through that range seamlessly. Whos Gonna Be The One live being one of the best examples. POC live in Kiev is probably my fave live track of theirs... the final low and the length she holds it is epic \m/
It's so weird how, without any real understanding of vocal techniques or any vocal training whatsoever, I can still kind of instinctively understand what you were talking about in regard to the "upper" and "lower" constriction and how maybe Tatiana is able to engage both those areas of the...vocal tract, I guess. I can sort of imagine in my head what that might feel like and how it might change the sound. Not saying I could do it well, but it's fascinating how accessible singing is through pure feeling. Nice to see you point out all of the tiny subtle things Tatiana uses when she sings, even from one syllable to the next. Helps you appreciate her even more. Also, have you been working on those low growls? Even that "YES" at 6:48 sounded beefy!
@@paulriddle7818 no way! That would be amazing. Her vocals are interesting. Especially lately it sounds like she’s been mixing false chord and fry, possibly at the same time like Chris speculated Tatiana is doing.
When she does that compressed fry sound I always hear a little bit of pre 2015 Tatiana peaking through saying "I'm still here". This song is one of those that I think shows one of her unsung talents and that is taking complex music and laying vocals over it. The actual instrumentation for this was actually done weeks before she went into the studio. She just takes what she hears and starts her lyrics, melody, phrasing, all of it. Just another thing that impresses me. On prior albums there are pictures and video of her using a Shure SM7 for vocals. I don't know if she used it this time but she did use it for their previous album and those vocals don't sound significantly different. The capsule in that mic isn't terribly different from the wireless mic she uses or any other average dynamic you might use live. In fact it's supposedly the same as an SM58. I think you said you saw her interview with Elizabeth from the Charismatic voice. In that she mentioned that she will take a break and "forget" how to do the harsh vocals and have to relearn it. It's probably not that she forgets but I think I know what she means. Because of that fans who have heard the entire discography know she has a slightly different sound from time period to time period. It's kind of like selecting a fine wine. Do you like the 2012 vintage, 2015, 2019 or 2022? Amazing thing is they are all good. There is a recent live session done in 2022 on video called Jinjer From Nothing that was just recently released and that would be an excellent thing to look at for her 2022 "vintage". It does remind me of a line in a Lethal Weapon movie where I think Tatiana has forgotten more about harsh vocals than most people will ever know. I would still like to see you analyze their video Pit of Consciousness Live in Kyiv. She goes super low in that one but after she does she does, I don't even know what it is but it's pitched, it's extremely gritty, doesn't have a sheen at all and it's really high.
@@ericpeterson7512 I think the full list is 2009, 2012, 2015/16, 2018/19, 2021, 2022 to present. I'm willing to bet corresponds to breaks and touring. I love them all except maybe for ~2009. Sounds IMO like that one hurt a little. but that's baby Tati.
Judging by the rather uncommon length of this song's lyrics I think that this time Tatiana had more time and less pressure to write them. Also, after reading the lyrics I'm thinking that she probably used more clean vocals because she wanted to get the message across more clearly. There are some clean parts where we would expect harsh vocals but if there's anything I learned from Jinjer in the last 8 years is to expect the unexpected. 🙂
That Teacher Teacher video is a great suggestion for a vocals channel. Tati sings in, I dunno, five distinct vocal styles? Six maybe? In that one song. It's so good.
I just noticed you never featured The Plot In You on your channel before. You really HAVE to listen to some of their stuff, you're going to love it. Landon Tewers is an insanely good and incredibly unique vocalist. I'd recommend all of their latest songs basically. (older stuff is good, but it's been especially vocal centered lately) "Been Here Before" for a more melodic track with insane sing screaming and "Forgotten" for a really heavy experience with mostly pitchless screams would be my first recommendations..
This is the 4th time this morning that I've listened to this song and I hear more each time Obviously there's Tatti but the second half of the song goes hard almost thrashy then shifts into odd time stops chugs and open chords I'm looking forward to the new album now that Jinjer have established themselves as top tier musicians and band ✌️🤘🧐 Imo Roman is such an underrated player and deserves more credit
Agreed re: Roman, he's amazing. And his parts never try to dominate. Eugene is maybe my favourite bassist right now but definitely part of what's going on with why we hear a bit more gushing about the bass is that those two write parts that complement and weave around each other, rather than the guitar dominating the bass, and the latter is often the case in metal. So there's some novelty in just how present and articulate the bass sounds in their songs. (Also the mixing is extremely good of course.) They really thrive on not having a second guitarist chugging just rhythm on top and rather Roman writing these intricate parts that fuse little lead-like licks into riffs, and let Eugene carry the rhythm, (and then also vice versa). I think it's actually hard to rate anyone in this band individually because showing off is never anyone's prerogative, and solos aren't a thing; everyone's to be credited as much for when/where they don't play, because the arrangement doesn't call for it. Anyway Roman is incredible, he has the skills to show off more but that's not what they're trying to create, and I love that.
Also I know some of this lately is written by Vlad which I assume means at least the skeletons of the guitar/bass parts. But the same applies to anything Roman and Eugene have written and co-written.
Please react "Vortex" from "Audiotree from nothing"...... It's from an interview they gave a few days ago and they play 3 songs, one of them is Vortex, it goes from minute 1 to 5
Pretty sure it's still the Overload Achilles 5, or one of the new Dingwalls. I've never seen him play a Ricky. That instrumental section in the middle does have a nice bright Chris Squire sounding tone. I'm betting it's a Dingwall.
I would be interested to see you react to songs by Togenashitogeari, there was an anime for the band called Girls Band Cry that released recently, and its going to have a proper release for english speaking countries soon, absolutely love their songs though, Wrong World, Void, Emptiness and Catharsis, and Voiceless Fish are all great songs.
i would like to thank you for this videos they have helped so much to improve my voice. can you do a vídeo about higher notes mix? when sing some notes or musics like jesus christ pose sounds weird, like the cat sound. thank you, and sorry by my english, a hug from brazil.
Hey chris, hope youre having a great day / night I wanna ask another question, what do i do when i wanna hit the notes i normally hit right after i wake up? Cuz it seems impossible to hit those notes in the morning for me, does vocal fry help?
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Also Tatiana : « I don’t really have a technique »
I strongly recommand the Audiotree performance which is out of this world + Pit of consciousness live in Kiev. At least for you to listen. At least !
They also have a “live in the beastiarium” from their first album and it’s amazing how great they sounded in their beginning. Just been honing the craft ever since.
Tatiana's reaction to all these vocal coaches' analysis of her voice:
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Lol tati has not formally trained from anybody but she has absolutely mastered self trial-by-error technique that works for her for both harshes, cleans and also phrasing and structuring Vocal lines over such crazy proggy djenty music with a million complex time signature changes 😂😂
I love her voice. Wow, I remember first time hearing her was the Pisces song and it blew me away!!!
I was excited to recognize that Tatiana is constantly doing exactly what your new exercises in SingTogether 365 are teaching us how to do! That line “I had to try on the armour” is a perfect example. I’m discovering that not only am I learning to sing at new levels of skill and proficiency from your videos and courses but I’m also learning to listen and to hear. Sooo exciting!!! ✨🔥🙌
Composition wise this song is also nuts. Jinjer's musicianship is on another level.
It’s so hard to understand how they structure their songs and it’s frustrating because I want to write like this lol
@@chrisbassartist4344 They seem to approach it more like classical music. There doesn't need to be a chorus verse chorus it's more just sections.
@@ryanexsus I love it I’m a bassist trying to learn eugene’s basslines is a challenge
I fell in love with Jinjer in 2015-2016 when I was in a very dark place in my life. I've followed their music since then, and they have never stopped impressing me with their creativity and talent. The interview on Audiotree shows the kind of mentality they have to reach the pinnacle of success in music. But, as their lyrics say, I wonder, "Is it lonely on the top?"
Awesome! Great analysis. Thank you so much. And now suddenly, I am so into Tatiana's voice and her music. And that badass guitar work. Damn . . .
Your excitement towards vocals is refreshihg....it is always a joy to see someone in their element.
As always, you being able to break down both cleans and harsh vocals and demonstrate them as well helps us all understand and appreciate the music even more. That's a gift.
Have a super great fucking day and keep rocking. 🤘
Chris, he's a fantastic coach 😁
She makes it seem so effortless 😏 really strong backing vocals to, people tend to underestimate and don't look close enough at heavy metal ⁉️
Love ur videos Chris! You've been a great help in my singing journey. Can you do more videos about singing the closed vowels? For me it's especially hard in the middle of my range but its way easier to sing the closed vowels up high.
Fantastic analysis as always sir 🤘
Jinjer - From Nothing (Live Audiotree Performance)
Jinjer - Call Me A Symbol (Official Live in LA)
I love this new song by Jinjer, always love Jinjer! I've done some amateur dabbling in music, but I love hearing musicians talk about Jinjer, they're just so good!
I love the portrayals in video of Joan of Arc, Marie Curie and (I think) Georgia O'Keeffe, although since we know Tatiana loves Frida Kahlo (as do I) because of that tattoo on her arm, I will always think of that character in this video as Georgia O'Keeffe on the outside and Frida Kahlo on the inside.
Great reaction and vocal analysis! Thank you, Chris, for bringing more of the fantastic music of Jinjer to more people! ❤️ 🖤 🤘
🤘🇺🇦❤️ Jinjer
Love your analysis so damn much. Always picking up on things I never would have seen even after hundreds of listens.
I would love to see you analyse “Pit of Consciousness” live in Kiev. Some of the most brutal lows, but also mixed in some banshee screams on top. Delicious.
^I second this motion^ 😄 It's my favourite thing about Tati's harsh vocals.. not only the range but the way she can transition through that range seamlessly. Whos Gonna Be The One live being one of the best examples. POC live in Kiev is probably my fave live track of theirs... the final low and the length she holds it is epic \m/
Moose, you're not kidding there she has skill, she has incredible control of her vocal 🎶😤
It's so weird how, without any real understanding of vocal techniques or any vocal training whatsoever, I can still kind of instinctively understand what you were talking about in regard to the "upper" and "lower" constriction and how maybe Tatiana is able to engage both those areas of the...vocal tract, I guess. I can sort of imagine in my head what that might feel like and how it might change the sound. Not saying I could do it well, but it's fascinating how accessible singing is through pure feeling.
Nice to see you point out all of the tiny subtle things Tatiana uses when she sings, even from one syllable to the next. Helps you appreciate her even more. Also, have you been working on those low growls? Even that "YES" at 6:48 sounded beefy!
Tatiana is the #1 pick for the next candidate for Zharoff’s stick a camera down the nose project.
I believe Alissa White Gluz has agreed to do it next.
@@paulriddle7818 no way! That would be amazing. Her vocals are interesting. Especially lately it sounds like she’s been mixing false chord and fry, possibly at the same time like Chris speculated Tatiana is doing.
Im so in love with the queen tatiana shmayluk !!
You gotta check out some of her live screams. Absolutely insane the pitch she can get to
Agreed, @Just.Another_Cover! "Pit of consciousness - live in Kiev" is my favorite!
The boys crushed it in this track. Those riffs are abusive. ☠
Chris, surprise🎉 you know when I get an email saying you got a new drop I'm going to be here😊
When she does that compressed fry sound I always hear a little bit of pre 2015 Tatiana peaking through saying "I'm still here". This song is one of those that I think shows one of her unsung talents and that is taking complex music and laying vocals over it. The actual instrumentation for this was actually done weeks before she went into the studio. She just takes what she hears and starts her lyrics, melody, phrasing, all of it. Just another thing that impresses me.
On prior albums there are pictures and video of her using a Shure SM7 for vocals. I don't know if she used it this time but she did use it for their previous album and those vocals don't sound significantly different. The capsule in that mic isn't terribly different from the wireless mic she uses or any other average dynamic you might use live. In fact it's supposedly the same as an SM58. I think you said you saw her interview with Elizabeth from the Charismatic voice. In that she mentioned that she will take a break and "forget" how to do the harsh vocals and have to relearn it. It's probably not that she forgets but I think I know what she means. Because of that fans who have heard the entire discography know she has a slightly different sound from time period to time period. It's kind of like selecting a fine wine. Do you like the 2012 vintage, 2015, 2019 or 2022? Amazing thing is they are all good.
There is a recent live session done in 2022 on video called Jinjer From Nothing that was just recently released and that would be an excellent thing to look at for her 2022 "vintage". It does remind me of a line in a Lethal Weapon movie where I think Tatiana has forgotten more about harsh vocals than most people will ever know. I would still like to see you analyze their video Pit of Consciousness Live in Kyiv. She goes super low in that one but after she does she does, I don't even know what it is but it's pitched, it's extremely gritty, doesn't have a sheen at all and it's really high.
Excellent comment. I have a hard time deciding which vintage I like best!
@@ericpeterson7512 I think the full list is 2009, 2012, 2015/16, 2018/19, 2021, 2022 to present. I'm willing to bet corresponds to breaks and touring. I love them all except maybe for ~2009. Sounds IMO like that one hurt a little. but that's baby Tati.
Liberty, they can't all be gold 🪙
Judging by the rather uncommon length of this song's lyrics I think that this time Tatiana had more time and less pressure to write them. Also, after reading the lyrics I'm thinking that she probably used more clean vocals because she wanted to get the message across more clearly. There are some clean parts where we would expect harsh vocals but if there's anything I learned from Jinjer in the last 8 years is to expect the unexpected. 🙂
Tell me about it 🤔 are vocals are very unique 👂
Teacher Teacher (OMV) is synched up to a long tour they did for the 3rd abum Micro. Its a fantastic song and a great video.
btw... They played a second song from this up coming album the other night at a Romanian festival and its a lot heavier then this.
That Teacher Teacher video is a great suggestion for a vocals channel. Tati sings in, I dunno, five distinct vocal styles? Six maybe? In that one song. It's so good.
Nice❤🎉
Hey Chris! I really like your videos and I'd love to see your analysis on ''Asphyxia'' by Cö shu Nie.
Chris, see you next time brother 🙏
Hello, Chris. New subscriber here. I want you to listen Ado and her friends sing Ready Steady especially the Live version.
Tatiana made you go full Beavis at 3:19
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She has quite a bag of tricks ©️😘 Chris is your guy if you want to be a serious vocalist 😊 I'm always plugging you Chris🎉
Chris, I'm always plugging you when I run into a vocalist, and I've been having a lot of fun with that software you turn me on to🎉
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I just noticed you never featured The Plot In You on your channel before. You really HAVE to listen to some of their stuff, you're going to love it. Landon Tewers is an insanely good and incredibly unique vocalist.
I'd recommend all of their latest songs basically. (older stuff is good, but it's been especially vocal centered lately) "Been Here Before" for a more melodic track with insane sing screaming and "Forgotten" for a really heavy experience with mostly pitchless screams would be my first recommendations..
This is the 4th time this morning that I've listened to this song and I hear more each time Obviously there's Tatti but the second half of the song goes hard almost thrashy then shifts into odd time stops chugs and open chords I'm looking forward to the new album now that Jinjer have established themselves as top tier musicians and band ✌️🤘🧐 Imo Roman is such an underrated player and deserves more credit
Agreed re: Roman, he's amazing. And his parts never try to dominate. Eugene is maybe my favourite bassist right now but definitely part of what's going on with why we hear a bit more gushing about the bass is that those two write parts that complement and weave around each other, rather than the guitar dominating the bass, and the latter is often the case in metal. So there's some novelty in just how present and articulate the bass sounds in their songs. (Also the mixing is extremely good of course.)
They really thrive on not having a second guitarist chugging just rhythm on top and rather Roman writing these intricate parts that fuse little lead-like licks into riffs, and let Eugene carry the rhythm, (and then also vice versa). I think it's actually hard to rate anyone in this band individually because showing off is never anyone's prerogative, and solos aren't a thing; everyone's to be credited as much for when/where they don't play, because the arrangement doesn't call for it. Anyway Roman is incredible, he has the skills to show off more but that's not what they're trying to create, and I love that.
Also I know some of this lately is written by Vlad which I assume means at least the skeletons of the guitar/bass parts. But the same applies to anything Roman and Eugene have written and co-written.
Hey Chris, 👋😀 I'm back old friend@
Please react "Vortex" from "Audiotree from nothing"...... It's from an interview they gave a few days ago and they play 3 songs, one of them is Vortex, it goes from minute 1 to 5
Is it just me or is my man bulking up. Power arms for power chords
I've added a few pounds lately, for sure!
You can see the veins in his biceps for sure. Never noticed that before. lol
Is Eugene playing a Rickenbacker there? Beautiful tone
Pretty sure it's still the Overload Achilles 5, or one of the new Dingwalls. I've never seen him play a Ricky. That instrumental section in the middle does have a nice bright Chris Squire sounding tone. I'm betting it's a Dingwall.
@@ericpeterson7512it’s his Fujin model by overload guitars
@@Powerfulpuffball Yep Overload Fujin.
I would be interested to see you react to songs by Togenashitogeari, there was an anime for the band called Girls Band Cry that released recently, and its going to have a proper release for english speaking countries soon, absolutely love their songs though, Wrong World, Void, Emptiness and Catharsis, and Voiceless Fish are all great songs.
i would like to thank you for this videos they have helped so much to improve my voice. can you do a vídeo about higher notes mix? when sing some notes or musics like jesus christ pose sounds weird, like the cat sound. thank you, and sorry by my english, a hug from brazil.
Hey chris, hope youre having a great day / night
I wanna ask another question, what do i do when i wanna hit the notes i normally hit right after i wake up? Cuz it seems impossible to hit those notes in the morning for me, does vocal fry help?
Can you do a review of Chapell Roan?
you should react to the attack on titan song (emU) sang by Hiroyuki Sawano/project i recommend you wait for the chorus
Chris, the word supposed to be thinking 🤔 TH-cam Mic 🎤 software is just a bit off 📴
Chris, have you heard of Peyton Parrish? That deepth in his voice!
Hey theres a cover of Ado Aisthita Aisthita Aisthita by Michi a vtuber if you could react to it that be amazing!
Might wanna correct the band name in the title 😅
Ugh, thanks :)