I found this video on accident. If you are ever in Utah there is two oilfield guys who will buy you a beer! You are a life saver! Thank you Thank you. It worked on my 2003 Ford F250 v10 crew cab! Thank you!
I seen the other comments and i know you’ve heard it alot but thank you so much for making this video 🙏 after all the research, your video was the only one that actually made sense and was str8 frwrd… and this got my excursion v10 back on the road.
Glad to hear that ol girl is back on the streets 🎉 You know, when I made this video I spent probably two days trying to figure out everything. Then I thought to myself you know I bet I could save people a lot of time by making a video and I never expected it to get this many views 😂
Thanks for making this step by step video to make a simple fix to what should have been a plug and play from the factory. Just completed the remote relay and the old 5.4 is purring again for a fraction of the cost to replace the entire unit.
Just performed on an 05 Excursion Limited. Can confirm, this will work for the fuel pump relay bypass as well with the same indicated color wiring on the back of the CJB. BE ADVISED: I performed this on an 05 v10 6.8l gas config. My CJB still had the nice factory plastic cover on the left side covering the main in, so instead of using that as my power out at all times, I piggy backed off the front of the fuse panel for the Diesel Fuel Heater (which appears to be live at all times on one leg). Thanks again OP for the good description and video.
Hey having same issue with my 2005 f550 v10. Which color wire did you use for ground to computer? Mine 2nd one down is blackish brownish colo lr not blue or orange nothing similar how your looks
4/10/24 hey buddy I need to tell you thank you I have a 2004 F250 with a 5.4L 280k miles. Basically had the truck since it was brand new I had been broke down for a couple weeks trying to figure out the problem I just got done With the relay bypass and your video made it possible you are the man. if you’re ever around Asheville North Carolina I got some clear with your name on it well nobody’s name but I’ll share
Another thank you for this video. I knew my relay was going bad but was having trouble tracing the correct wires for bypassing it. This made it breeze. Thanks 🙏.
Great video. Clearly explained the problem and the fix. Kept it up on my phone while I did the repair...just to make sure. Worked perfectly on my 04 F250 5.4L Lariat. Wiring was different colors/positions on other videos. I found that this video had the CJB (fuse box) ending in "BH", but some other video's CJB did not end in "BH". Make sure you are looking at the same CJB. Im not 100% sure, but I believe some wiring colors/positions differ between the different CJB's. Once I sorted that out, this video made it super easy. Thanks for the great video!
Thank You! You got me out of a bind and for less than $30. I truly appreciate you posting your experience and knowledge. I just smashed that like button and i am hitting subscribe.
I did this on my 2003 F250 5.4 gas truck. Same fuse box. In my case, I was getting intermittent stalling while driving or idling and then it would start back up no problem. I bypassed the fuel pump relay and it runs perfect now. No more stalling while driving or idling. Thank You for doing the hard work and finding which wires we needed to reroute.
I went to dealership in hamburg pa. Pin pointed it to relay. I asked them to bypass like this. They said it would bed a master mind of an electrian to figure It out. Total bill would have been 1300 dollars
Haha that's awesome 😎 yeah I work on elevators for a living so this wasn't too bad. The hardest part is finding decent prints from Ford. Glad you got your truck back on the road.
Thank you, thank you! This saved me from a full board replacement. The only hiccup we had was your green and orange was our blue and orange, but it was the 2nd wire down on the small plug. We started with our green and orange which was the 3rd wire down, which we got the truck started, but the pump wouldn't shut off.
@R P are you able to put everything back like it was and check if it cranks? It's pouring rain where I'm at but when it stops ill go out and get you some pics.
I have a 02 f550 7.3l my truck starts & drives but it feels like its not running right fuel pump making weird noise i changed it but no use i had a code 0231(Fuel Pump Secondary circuit low) does that mean relay is not performing as it should? Plz reply if u can thanks alot for the video.
Hi I have 99 ford f450 with the 6.8 and I believe my fuel pump relay under the hood keep causing my truck to stall! I’m DIY guy however don’t know we’re to start with this process? Any recommendations? I did some research online and the junction had some issues over the years
Hello I was curious as to what guage wire you used to do this or if it even really matters I’ve got a truck in my shop that I’m going to have to do this to cause the customer won’t replace the board
hey, i have kinda the same problem.. while my fuse location tests good, im not getting any power on the backside of the fuse box. so im wondering if this solution leaves the pump working the same as factory(cycling for 15-20 secs and then running on ignition) or if it has constant power while key is on (never stops running while key is in acc position)
As long as you wire it correctly. The pump should shut off if the key is on accessory and not running. Essentially what I did was using external relay to power the fuel pump versus the internal relay that typically goes bad.
@@mikecimmarrusti8734 On my truck, C270a, which is the larger connector with the slide lock tab was the correct color of (DG/YE) at pin 22. The smaller connector, C270f was (LB/OG) at pin 10, so that one was a different main color, but same stripe color. Nonetheless, same pin location. If you're weary, reply with the full vin # and I can verify wire colors and locations for both fuel pump relay control and switched power output. If you have small picks or a de-pin tool, you can also just carefully remove the wire and pin from the connectors prior to cutting to touch test with the relay to ensure fuel pump on/off noise. With that also being said, you're not bypassing the inertia switch, so make sure it's still there and the button isn't up. Ultimately, it was a decent band-aid repair as it would intermittently stall on me at idle. I ended up just coughing up the dough for a new SJB.
@@davidhjelmeland8626 any reason you didnt stick with the external relay and installed (I assume) a rebuilt SJB? Seems to me it was a bad design to begin with and a week before this happened I was towing a boat 300 miles. It would have been a bad deal to have it just die at speed while towing.
@mikecimmarrusti8734 even with the external relay, my truck would intermittently stall only at idle. But would fire right up and would never have issues while moving. At the time, I was still working at the dealer, and my parts guys were able to get me a new SJB for about 350 out the door. Never had an issue since.
Did this exact procedure on my early 2003 and did not work. I hear relay clicking, I get 12V but the pump still will not run. The connector at the HCFM power shows 12 volts even after the 20 second timeout period and the brand new pump still will not run. I can jump 12v from battery to pump and it primes just fine. Any advice?
@@scottk27332 Have you checked the voltage going to the pump when the relay clicks on? I'm not 100% sure but to me sounds like the relay may have a bad contact.
@@RockDude84 Thanks for the reply, yes when relay clicks on it reads 12 volts but it wont light a test light and when plugged into the pump it reads 0 volts. Its a brand new yet off brand relay.
@@RockDude84 Gotcha. I am checking both pins on the connector by backprobing. Maybe run a separate ground just to see if that works? I appreciate the replies and help!
@@RockDude84 I took a chance on replacing the the small harness ($15 Amazon) at the fuel pump and it worked. Must have been a bad or weakened wire on ground or a ground not able to support the pump amperage load. Now I know that checking continuity on grounds isn't enough, need to check load on grounds just as on positive side! Thanks for the replies and great video!
If your relay is getting stuck on Make sure you're getting the correct signal from your power control module. If you are then replace the relay. The fuse will cut power to the pump but then your vehicle will be inoperable.
Thank you for this detailed, easy-to-understand video. I was able to fix my 05 Excursion Limited this morning. I have my own code scanner from Forscan and I cleared the codes then ran again. The original P0231 didn't show, but a new code P0232 came up. I know I wired everything correctly, but what could cause this code?
Nice video but a little complicated for me. Question. I have a 93 Ford E150 5.8L Club Wagon Van. Can i run the wires from the external inline fuel pump to existing ECU in the fuse box under the hood, and if so, can i do it with a Fuse Tap / Circuit Adapter.?
I have no idea about that vehicle.. the wiring could be totally different it is a gas motor. The truck that I was working on was a 2002 F350 with a 7.3 diesel.
I'm not sure, you can cross reference the part numbers for the fuel pump relay to start. Then check the circuits with a meter and if it functions the same it should work.
I would confirm that no wires are shorted out to anything. And all your connections are made properly. Beyond that I don't know why you would be receiving that code.
You would have to look at the wiring schematics. Look up the location for the fuel pump relay if it is the same then the same concept would work but I imagine the wire colors would be different.
I am not entirely sure what you mean. You may have a different year model. My truck was a 2002 7.3 diesel. That year the relay is built into the fuse panel under the steering column.
@@RockDude84 right. I wired in my relay the same way you did. My pump runs and shuts off like it should with the engine not running. My only issue is, I’m getting a code that says “ secondary circuit for pump is to high”. My question is, in the back of the fuse box where the original pump relay is located, there is a 4 wire connector plugged into the fuse box. Did you have to do anything with that particular plug that I’m missing on the video? Thank you
Me too my mechanic changed fuel pump filter throttle body then I took it to another mechanic said it's fuse box can't find the part so now bypass a month of headache and money
I found this video on accident. If you are ever in Utah there is two oilfield guys who will buy you a beer! You are a life saver! Thank you Thank you. It worked on my 2003 Ford F250 v10 crew cab! Thank you!
That's awesome 😎 happy to help!
Man I have been fighting with my 250 for months!!!!!! Was just about to throw my hands up had NO IDEA there was a internal relay. Thank you!!!!
Your welcome happy to help!
I seen the other comments and i know you’ve heard it alot but thank you so much for making this video 🙏 after all the research, your video was the only one that actually made sense and was str8 frwrd… and this got my excursion v10 back on the road.
Glad to hear that ol girl is back on the streets 🎉 You know, when I made this video I spent probably two days trying to figure out everything. Then I thought to myself you know I bet I could save people a lot of time by making a video and I never expected it to get this many views 😂
Thanks for making this step by step video to make a simple fix to what should have been a plug and play from the factory. Just completed the remote relay and the old 5.4 is purring again for a fraction of the cost to replace the entire unit.
You are welcome! Glad I was able to help.
Completed this fix to my 2002 F-350 7.3l yesterday. I can't thank you enough!! Tremendous help! 1:35 1:41
Happy to help!
Just performed on an 05 Excursion Limited. Can confirm, this will work for the fuel pump relay bypass as well with the same indicated color wiring on the back of the CJB. BE ADVISED: I performed this on an 05 v10 6.8l gas config. My CJB still had the nice factory plastic cover on the left side covering the main in, so instead of using that as my power out at all times, I piggy backed off the front of the fuse panel for the Diesel Fuel Heater (which appears to be live at all times on one leg). Thanks again OP for the good description and video.
Happy to help!
Hey having same issue with my 2005 f550 v10. Which color wire did you use for ground to computer? Mine 2nd one down is blackish brownish colo lr not blue or orange nothing similar how your looks
4/10/24 hey buddy I need to tell you thank you I have a 2004 F250 with a 5.4L 280k miles. Basically had the truck since it was brand new I had been broke down for a couple weeks trying to figure out the problem I just got done With the relay bypass and your video made it possible you are the man. if you’re ever around Asheville North Carolina I got some clear with your name on it well nobody’s name but I’ll share
Happy to help @coreyhunt9466 🤠
Gotta give thanks to you, brother. My excursion is up and running again. Thank you soo much.
You are welcome 🍻 happy to help!
Another thank you for this video. I knew my relay was going bad but was having trouble tracing the correct wires for bypassing it. This made it breeze. Thanks 🙏.
What were your symptoms? my truck boggs down when taking off from a standstill. feels like its not getting gas.
Thanks. Had a customers truck that only got about 9 volts to inertia switch and this fixed it. Started right up
Fixed my truck today because of this thank you for posting!
Great video. Clearly explained the problem and the fix. Kept it up on my phone while I did the repair...just to make sure. Worked perfectly on my 04 F250 5.4L Lariat. Wiring was different colors/positions on other videos. I found that this video had the CJB (fuse box) ending in "BH", but some other video's CJB did not end in "BH". Make sure you are looking at the same CJB. Im not 100% sure, but I believe some wiring colors/positions differ between the different CJB's. Once I sorted that out, this video made it super easy. Thanks for the great video!
Glad I could help!
Thank You! You got me out of a bind and for less than $30. I truly appreciate you posting your experience and knowledge. I just smashed that like button and i am hitting subscribe.
@@JuanCarrillo-d1y Glad I was able to help you out!
I did this on my 2003 F250 5.4 gas truck. Same fuse box. In my case, I was getting intermittent stalling while driving or idling and then it would start back up no problem. I bypassed the fuel pump relay and it runs perfect now. No more stalling while driving or idling. Thank You for doing the hard work and finding which wires we needed to reroute.
Glad to help Frank!
Excellent info. Gets to the point with out misc. Talking. This worked on a 2004 ford excursion v10. Super job
I went to dealership in hamburg pa. Pin pointed it to relay. I asked them to bypass like this. They said it would bed a master mind of an electrian to figure It out. Total bill would have been 1300 dollars
Did it for 27 dollars
Haha that's awesome 😎 yeah I work on elevators for a living so this wasn't too bad. The hardest part is finding decent prints from Ford. Glad you got your truck back on the road.
Looking everywhere for this stupid relay today under hood behind radio lol what a joke. Thank you!!
Thank you, work for my 2003 F250!
Thank you, thank you! This saved me from a full board replacement. The only hiccup we had was your green and orange was our blue and orange, but it was the 2nd wire down on the small plug. We started with our green and orange which was the 3rd wire down, which we got the truck started, but the pump wouldn't shut off.
This was a 2004 f250 with the v-10.
Gotta 98 econoline 150. 4.6 L was driving went inside post office. Now no start
What truck was it a 250 or a 350 5.4 or 6.0
Much appreciated, she started right back up
Thank you. You saved my truck 2003 f250 5.4
You are welcome! Glad to help.
@R P are you able to put everything back like it was and check if it cranks? It's pouring rain where I'm at but when it stops ill go out and get you some pics.
That was a fantastic video it fixed my issue!!!!
@@ikefowler7808 Awesome 😎
I have a 02 f550 7.3l my truck starts & drives but it feels like its not running right fuel pump making weird noise i changed it but no use i had a code 0231(Fuel Pump Secondary circuit low) does that mean relay is not performing as it should? Plz reply if u can thanks alot for the video.
Hi I have 99 ford f450 with the 6.8 and I believe my fuel pump relay under the hood keep causing my truck to stall! I’m DIY guy however don’t know we’re to start with this process? Any recommendations? I did some research online and the junction had some issues over the years
Hey look! Common Problem! Honey, give me a butter knife, a wire stripper, and another beer! It's time to Play Mechanic!
Hello I was curious as to what guage wire you used to do this or if it even really matters I’ve got a truck in my shop that I’m going to have to do this to cause the customer won’t replace the board
So the 2002 f350 diesel trucks don't have a fuel pump relay under the hood? They are built into the fuse box?
That's is correct sir
hey, i have kinda the same problem.. while my fuse location tests good, im not getting any power on the backside of the fuse box.
so im wondering if this solution leaves the pump working the same as factory(cycling for 15-20 secs and then running on ignition) or if it has constant power while key is on (never stops running while key is in acc position)
As long as you wire it correctly. The pump should shut off if the key is on accessory and not running. Essentially what I did was using external relay to power the fuel pump versus the internal relay that typically goes bad.
Worked on my 06 f250 6.0. Great video, thanks for saving my ass.
Is there a chance I can be in touch with you to step me through this because I also need to do this and I’m just hesitant to cut wires !
Was the wiring color the same on your truck?
@@mikecimmarrusti8734 On my truck, C270a, which is the larger connector with the slide lock tab was the correct color of (DG/YE) at pin 22. The smaller connector, C270f was (LB/OG) at pin 10, so that one was a different main color, but same stripe color. Nonetheless, same pin location. If you're weary, reply with the full vin # and I can verify wire colors and locations for both fuel pump relay control and switched power output. If you have small picks or a de-pin tool, you can also just carefully remove the wire and pin from the connectors prior to cutting to touch test with the relay to ensure fuel pump on/off noise. With that also being said, you're not bypassing the inertia switch, so make sure it's still there and the button isn't up. Ultimately, it was a decent band-aid repair as it would intermittently stall on me at idle. I ended up just coughing up the dough for a new SJB.
@@davidhjelmeland8626 any reason you didnt stick with the external relay and installed (I assume) a rebuilt SJB? Seems to me it was a bad design to begin with and a week before this happened I was towing a boat 300 miles. It would have been a bad deal to have it just die at speed while towing.
@mikecimmarrusti8734 even with the external relay, my truck would intermittently stall only at idle. But would fire right up and would never have issues while moving. At the time, I was still working at the dealer, and my parts guys were able to get me a new SJB for about 350 out the door. Never had an issue since.
I tried that on my 04 f350 nothing , also relay doesnt click either ! Do you think its the ecu duel pump not getting power, cranks but wont start
Also no communication with ecu either at this point i have no idea what else it could be , new pump , new fuel filter, new fuse box nothing works
Great video. 😊 thanks
Your welcome 🙏
Did this exact procedure on my early 2003 and did not work. I hear relay clicking, I get 12V but the pump still will not run. The connector at the HCFM power shows 12 volts even after the 20 second timeout period and the brand new pump still will not run. I can jump 12v from battery to pump and it primes just fine. Any advice?
@@scottk27332
Have you checked the voltage going to the pump when the relay clicks on? I'm not 100% sure but to me sounds like the relay may have a bad contact.
@@RockDude84 Thanks for the reply, yes when relay clicks on it reads 12 volts but it wont light a test light and when plugged into the pump it reads 0 volts. Its a brand new yet off brand relay.
To me that sounds like a ground issue at the pump. @@scottk27332
@@RockDude84 Gotcha. I am checking both pins on the connector by backprobing. Maybe run a separate ground just to see if that works? I appreciate the replies and help!
@@RockDude84 I took a chance on replacing the the small harness ($15 Amazon) at the fuel pump and it worked. Must have been a bad or weakened wire on ground or a ground not able to support the pump amperage load. Now I know that checking continuity on grounds isn't enough, need to check load on grounds just as on positive side! Thanks for the replies and great video!
will this work with a 5 pin relay
I think my relay is getting stuck on, would this be a good method for me to fix the issue and just pull the fuse on top?
If your relay is getting stuck on Make sure you're getting the correct signal from your power control module. If you are then replace the relay.
The fuse will cut power to the pump but then your vehicle will be inoperable.
Thank you for this detailed, easy-to-understand video. I was able to fix my 05 Excursion Limited this morning. I have my own code scanner from Forscan and I cleared the codes then ran again. The original P0231 didn't show, but a new code P0232 came up. I know I wired everything correctly, but what could cause this code?
My truck would randomly. Run and not run, couldn't tell why. Doesn't matter if it was hot cold, it was random this Works
Does anyone know if it’s the same wiring configuration for 2000 gas 5.4?
If looks lik Frank Canora was successful with his 5.4, he had commented down below.
Can someone say is this the same for a 2002 F450?
I imagine it would be similar you could always test the functions with a voltmeter though.
Nice video but a little complicated for me.
Question. I have a 93 Ford E150 5.8L Club Wagon Van. Can i run the wires from the external inline fuel pump to existing ECU in the fuse box under the hood, and if so, can i do it with a Fuse Tap / Circuit Adapter.?
I have no idea about that vehicle.. the wiring could be totally different it is a gas motor. The truck that I was working on was a 2002 F350 with a 7.3 diesel.
Hey love the video just wondering if this would work on and 06 6.0 thanks
Honestly I'm not sure if this would work on a 6.0
Do you have access to the electrical diagram?
I'm having the same problem. Does this work on the diesel
Yes my truck was a 2002 7.3
Thanks alot
Does this work on a v10 excursion?
I'm not sure, you can cross reference the part numbers for the fuel pump relay to start. Then check the circuits with a meter and if it functions the same it should work.
Ok ty. Idk y it wouldn't it's just a f250 suv lol 😆 hopefully it should be the same
excellent vid
Thanks 👍
Great video, got my 03 v10 going. Why am i getting code p0232 after doing this? High voltage code i think
I would confirm that no wires are shorted out to anything. And all your connections are made properly.
Beyond that I don't know why you would be receiving that code.
does this work on 2000 ford mustang gt??
You would have to look at the wiring schematics. Look up the location for the fuel pump relay if it is the same then the same concept would work but I imagine the wire colors would be different.
@@RockDude84 Thank you for the speedy response.... They were the same colors....
Great video. Did you have to do anything with the 4 wire plug that is for the factory fuel pump relay? Do you leave it plugged in?
I am not entirely sure what you mean. You may have a different year model. My truck was a 2002 7.3 diesel. That year the relay is built into the fuse panel under the steering column.
@@RockDude84 right. I wired in my relay the same way you did. My pump runs and shuts off like it should with the engine not running. My only issue is, I’m getting a code that says “ secondary circuit for pump is to high”.
My question is, in the back of the fuse box where the original pump relay is located, there is a 4 wire connector plugged into the fuse box. Did you have to do anything with that particular plug that I’m missing on the video?
Thank you
@@martywipf3271 You leave the two wires you snip off going into the fuse panel. No other connectors get changed.
So I did this and it worked for the night but now the ground wire is not providing ground anymore
I need more information than that
@@RockDude84 pretty sure my pcm died👍
Gotcha 👌
What gauge wires did you use?
14awg I believe 12awg would be safe
Thank you.
@@hankwilliams2761 You are welcome Hank, happy to help!
Harbor freight has alligator clips that are perfect for backstabbing to test it
Let me know if you have any questions
This has to be the issues with my truck its at ford. Costing me $1800 bucks
Me too my mechanic changed fuel pump filter throttle body then I took it to another mechanic said it's fuse box can't find the part so now bypass a month of headache and money