I was thinking the same way since i saw a new Kangaskhan card from the upcoming set that used its Red/Blue version artwork from Ken Sugimori and i think that mosntly confirms we will get more of that in future sets since like them
Before going into the video, I want to point out that the demo stations only had you opening packs. There still hasn't been much of anything regarding the actual game part of the TCG Pocket app. I feel like we should have more than we've been shown. That doesn't mean it will be good or bad. It simply means I will be cautiously optimistic.
I think most people will end up playing the Pokemon TCG GAME this way. This is how the game will get a bigger base. Most people dont have 1 hour a day to play on TCG Live, but we all have 5-10 mins for Pocket! And the card game seemed for most people to be about collecting and not about playing the game! So this might end up beeing the best way to play the game and build a collection in the end.
The problem I have with any TCG is it is 80$ for a competitive deck now , then the next rotation goes around and you need to drop another 80$ for the next deck.
In Yu-Gi-Oh it's almost $300, for a fully competitive deck. I am highballing, but not that much. To buy a fully competitive deck every couple of months for $80, is not that bad, at least compared to Yu-Gi-Oh
@@reedhat6440 true. I played MTG for a bit and the constant 3 month swap for standard just got to me. I know there are other formats that will allow for more wide range of sets.
The thing with Pokemon is even in an $80 deck 70% of the cost is useable again in the next format. Ultravall, nest balls, switches and all the sort are reuseable forever
Another smart edge to Monetization for this game is with Trading. They could charge for trading like Pokemon Go, but honestly, they don't even have to do that. If there is an ability to have multiples of these special alt-art cards, people are going to want to chase and hoard cards they don't want just to have something they can trade for the rare card they DO want. Now I don't know how they are going to set up a marketplace for that, if they plan on doing that at all... but I will say, even in the local or friend trades, that is going to boost purchases among the playerbase.
I think Pokémon Duel was just ahead of its time. Mobile apps just didn’t have longevity or the popularity that they had until Pokémon Go came out. I think Pokémon Go has since helped create an entire space for mobile games to thrive and Duel was just before it’s time. I played a loved it from launch all the way to its close. I think if Pokémon Duel were released today it would be a huge success
I don't think it will flop, but I do think you're severely overestimating its future success. It's got a novelty aspect to it that will probably run out of hype after a few months or so. There's also the potential that the new style of gameplay could do well, but I feel like that's not as likely as something like Duel Links succeeding. Duel Links has a sizable singleplayer campaign, whereas we've only seen pvp for TCG Pocket. Every card game, whether played digitally or physically, has some core group of people who enjoy the metagame, play competitive all the time, etc., but those types of people tend to be the minority. Compare it to Master Duel, which is trying super hard to get people interested in competitive (via different rule sets and changing ban lists), but the game also has a lot of singleplayer content to cater to people who want a more casual experience. If Pocket can't get enough people interested in competitive, and/or it doesn't supply a singleplayer mode, then I don't think it will be massive at all.
the app description in the app-store confirms "solo challenges and going against the computer. I also think what Pokemon Pocket lacks in a campaign experience (if it doesnt have one) is made up by the Collecting and trading experience which is what they have been showing in advertisements like a digital binder, or display boards it seems you can create with different card styles. as well as trading favorite cards will be a big thing like he mentioned it will rekindle the playground trading experience idk if it will be PoGo big but i do like the thought of my manager/coworkers coming up to me like "Oh you got this card? u wanna trade?? " in 2024 as an Adult LOL
As a fan of Pokemon Masters and knowing about their bundles, if Pocket is anything similar then most bundles will be outrageously expensive but then there would be the reasonable priced bundles but with the caveat that you must log 20 individual days (either 20 days in a row or a total of 20 days across weeks and months) at the bundle is drip fed Example In Pokemon Masters there is a £/$4 bundle for 3k gems but you get 1k of that 3k right away and you are given 100 gems every day until you reach 3k. How many Gatcha units do you get with 3k? 1 multi pull of 11 units
You did also miss just one more actual dud from Pokémon on mobile which was Rumble Rush. I really liked it but I guess it just didn’t have enough people. Loved the Rumble games and I’m sad this one didn’t survive
Re the comment on pokemon go: I feel it will start finding a niche as a place to get less common or rarer pokemon as the pokemon life continues. An easier and even potentially cheaper way to get some that doesn't involve buying and playing a whole game just to get one.
I hope that the new format and rules make the game fun. The TCG had lots of moments of balance issues or fun issues, like playing against a Lost Zone deck, for example, or turns that take foreeeeever.
BIG question: Does TCG pocket going to have competitive battles? Or just collect cards and friendly battles etc Because i have hear that TCG live is not that good etc! So what happened with the competitive battles I strongly believe and i want to believe that they will close PTCGL and transfer what matters to PTCGP
I think pocket will be very successful, but not even close to the level of pogo, pogo was a cultural reset, it brought a lot of people that were not pokemon fans to the franchise, pocket just dont have the same four quadrant appeal, it will be successful with pokemon fans, it can be as big as that marvel cardgame which I heard is huge right now, it may even be as big as clash royale or some other mobile games, but pogo was like a second pokemania, it was constantly on the news, which made it even more popular, to think pocket can be even close to that I do agree is delusional, sorry, Toby
No honestly thank you for the reasonable comment. I’m not convinced this couldn’t be that big and I think if anything could be this has a pretty good shot
This is their chance to push TCG into mainstream. I play Snap A LOT. I love the artwork and happy to spend some money on the game because it’s FUN too.
They should rather focus on their main game TCG LIVE. It is still in a catastrophic state. Pocket is just a pure rip-off, not even the cards are the same as in real life. It's just a disgrace what the Pokemon company has been doing for the last few years. I can only advise anyone not to spend money on Pokemon Pocket to collect cards. I also collected almost all the cards in Pokemon TCG Online and spent a lot of money and then they just replaced Pokemon TCG Online with LIVE and all the cards from older series are no longer available. An absolute SCAM and that's exactly what will happen again in Pocket. For me, it's just a rip-off of naive customers. And when I look at the comments here, there are a lot of them and that's exactly what they know how to exploit.
I'm just glad the TCG doesn't have all the types, and the match-ups are all wonky. That was, and still is, a huge turn-off for me. Took me out of the scene entirely. Which has saved me a lot of money over the years. There are a lot of Pokémon that are neglected in the TCG as well, so people who don't have good representation of their favorites will also be out. For those reasons, I can't see this being as big as GO. But, for the reasons you mentioned, I can definitely see it being successful.
Just so you know, last winter, 85% of all Pokémon evolution lines had competitive viability And another 7% had cards that might not be the greatest in a competitive setting, but are good enough to beat to decks ~40~% of the time
Just so you know, last winter, 85% of all Pokémon evolution lines had competitive viability And another 7% had cards that might not be the greatest in a competitive setting, but are good enough to beat to decks ~40~% of the time Also, sinse 2022, the game has been very non consequensal by the weaknesses on your winrates, as long as you know how to play the matchup
I’m ready to learn about Pokemon trading card I never bought a pack in my life as I don’t know anything about it but I’m looking forward to this app/game
Pocket has nothing to do with the real Trading Card Game. It is a slimmed-down version and does not even contain the real cards, but modified cards that do not exist in real life. Have I already mentioned Pay2Win? I can only recommend that if you want to spend money, then buy real cards.
I got two Charizard one gold and ex two Blastoise one venasuar mewtwo ex aracaine ex zapdos ex articuno regular one gengar ex and been three days since playing I just need two moltress ex to combo my Charizard deck need two misty support stamie ex and Greninja ex an and articuno ex and gardvoir to support mewtwo got two ralts and two kirlia hopefully i get it before the game release in global to do verses match and pvp and trade
Has this person never heard of Pokemon TCG Live? There’s already a card game app for Pokemon, but it runs like crap. But he’s existing in a world where he doesn’t even acknowledge the game?
TCG live is a different thing. It’s an online version of an existing game (and yeah the app runs like crap) not new game featuring pokemon cards built for mobile. Maybe I’ll do a video on just this
@@cardkeepertoby Didn’t realize that. So this game’s cards are modified specifically FOR this version of the game? I really wish they would show off the battling side officially more because so far it’s catering to collector people but I’ve been dying for an actual Pokemon mobile game that is collection and battling that doesn’t run like garbage.
you are comparing apples to oranges. main line pokemon games are in most cases, one time buy and isnt competitive. Trading card games are competitive and most people either hate losing or spending real money just to win and then lose again
This is false the main line game do have competitive aspects. For casual they dont care sure but pokemon comp battles are very very popular in todays age now. All TCG games are like that this comes from a yugioh player we get salty but it is what it is.
I feel like this TCG Pocket is more balanced for Pokemon Card Collectors... and I feel like there are much more card collectors than card players, especially professional players. That said, it's also more balanced for them in that the game is easier for them to play and get into as well. I might be over-assuming, but it seems like it might take the aspect of play similar to how the Pokemon TCG video games simplified the TCG in the past as well as something like Yugioh duel Links where it feels like you are playing the regular game even though it is a condensed and simplified version. (And Duel Links was super popular, not sure if still is, but likely so) I don't know if it will do anything to TCG Live though... I think that is the big question mark and just the assumption that the devs are smart enough to not have the two games trip over each others toes... That said, I also already signed up for Pocket's preregister, so I'm all in.
I totally agree that this game is going to be huge. I would not be surprised if a lot of 90’s kids play for the nostalgia, similar to Go. Do you think there will be a story mode similar to Masters? I’m guessing yes, and that it will award some of the cinematic cards, and that those cards will relate to the story.
For anyone curious, he’s just saying a bunch of shit that’s not even close to being true. First off you can’t spend money in that game and also you don’t get 2 free packs per day. You get 2 daily quests per day and that’s all. I’m gonna hit the don’t ever recommend this garbage channel again button thanks 👍🏼
Bro I love Pokemon pocket I love to play it pin this comment please 😢🙏🤌
Sure why not ^_^
Thank you very much❤
Will Pokemon pocket will come to India I am from India I hope it will
@cardkeepertoby Toby miss ya hope the break does you good
I will be playing the game for card collecting and not fighting so the fact that you get 2 packs per day is good
Exactly lmao, but I’ve also never bothered to learn the rules of tcg, maybe this will be my turning point, but casual gameplay
I was thinking the same way since i saw a new Kangaskhan card from the upcoming set that used its Red/Blue version artwork from Ken Sugimori and i think that mosntly confirms we will get more of that in future sets since like them
@@williamlevison9966 I agree
Same 😂
Before going into the video, I want to point out that the demo stations only had you opening packs. There still hasn't been much of anything regarding the actual game part of the TCG Pocket app. I feel like we should have more than we've been shown. That doesn't mean it will be good or bad. It simply means I will be cautiously optimistic.
I'll have to admit I agree. Honestly, I'm taking the silence as a potentially positive sign. Maybe they are starting to leave us some surprises again.
I think most people will end up playing the Pokemon TCG GAME this way. This is how the game will get a bigger base. Most people dont have 1 hour a day to play on TCG Live, but we all have 5-10 mins for Pocket! And the card game seemed for most people to be about collecting and not about playing the game! So this might end up beeing the best way to play the game and build a collection in the end.
The fact that it was mentioned at worlds makes me think that TCG pocket will appear at worlds in 2025. Maybe, but I don't know why they would if not.
If they have Pokemon GO, this one will be there FOR SURE
The problem I have with any TCG is it is 80$ for a competitive deck now , then the next rotation goes around and you need to drop another 80$ for the next deck.
In Yu-Gi-Oh it's almost $300, for a fully competitive deck. I am highballing, but not that much. To buy a fully competitive deck every couple of months for $80, is not that bad, at least compared to Yu-Gi-Oh
@@reedhat6440 true. I played MTG for a bit and the constant 3 month swap for standard just got to me. I know there are other formats that will allow for more wide range of sets.
The thing with Pokemon is even in an $80 deck 70% of the cost is useable again in the next format. Ultravall, nest balls, switches and all the sort are reuseable forever
80 Bucks for a deck that you can play till April 2025 seems fine for me tbh
And you can still buy a deck which rotates later
Another smart edge to Monetization for this game is with Trading. They could charge for trading like Pokemon Go, but honestly, they don't even have to do that. If there is an ability to have multiples of these special alt-art cards, people are going to want to chase and hoard cards they don't want just to have something they can trade for the rare card they DO want. Now I don't know how they are going to set up a marketplace for that, if they plan on doing that at all... but I will say, even in the local or friend trades, that is going to boost purchases among the playerbase.
I think Pokémon Duel was just ahead of its time. Mobile apps just didn’t have longevity or the popularity that they had until Pokémon Go came out. I think Pokémon Go has since helped create an entire space for mobile games to thrive and Duel was just before it’s time. I played a loved it from launch all the way to its close. I think if Pokémon Duel were released today it would be a huge success
I don't think it will flop, but I do think you're severely overestimating its future success. It's got a novelty aspect to it that will probably run out of hype after a few months or so.
There's also the potential that the new style of gameplay could do well, but I feel like that's not as likely as something like Duel Links succeeding. Duel Links has a sizable singleplayer campaign, whereas we've only seen pvp for TCG Pocket. Every card game, whether played digitally or physically, has some core group of people who enjoy the metagame, play competitive all the time, etc., but those types of people tend to be the minority. Compare it to Master Duel, which is trying super hard to get people interested in competitive (via different rule sets and changing ban lists), but the game also has a lot of singleplayer content to cater to people who want a more casual experience. If Pocket can't get enough people interested in competitive, and/or it doesn't supply a singleplayer mode, then I don't think it will be massive at all.
the app description in the app-store confirms "solo challenges and going against the computer. I also think what Pokemon Pocket lacks in a campaign experience (if it doesnt have one) is made up by the Collecting and trading experience which is what they have been showing in advertisements like a digital binder, or display boards it seems you can create with different card styles. as well as trading favorite cards will be a big thing like he mentioned it will rekindle the playground trading experience idk if it will be PoGo big but i do like the thought of my manager/coworkers coming up to me like "Oh you got this card? u wanna trade?? " in 2024 as an Adult LOL
6:15 I see that Caddicarus video Toby! Good taste ;)
As a fan of Pokemon Masters and knowing about their bundles, if Pocket is anything similar then most bundles will be outrageously expensive but then there would be the reasonable priced bundles but with the caveat that you must log 20 individual days (either 20 days in a row or a total of 20 days across weeks and months) at the bundle is drip fed
Example
In Pokemon Masters there is a £/$4 bundle for 3k gems but you get 1k of that 3k right away and you are given 100 gems every day until you reach 3k. How many Gatcha units do you get with 3k? 1 multi pull of 11 units
I'm kinda curious if thiis going to be more of a Yu-gi-oh "Speed Duels" or "Rush Duels" like gameplay.
The game is going to be fun, but I'm slightly concern about it being run by DNA that need to be launch Master twice already.
You did also miss just one more actual dud from Pokémon on mobile which was Rumble Rush. I really liked it but I guess it just didn’t have enough people. Loved the Rumble games and I’m sad this one didn’t survive
Re the comment on pokemon go: I feel it will start finding a niche as a place to get less common or rarer pokemon as the pokemon life continues. An easier and even potentially cheaper way to get some that doesn't involve buying and playing a whole game just to get one.
I only own 1 trading box set. Is having actual Pokemon cards a necessity for this game?
No this is seperate from the physical cards.
@@MrToby11 oh perfect, I can start from scratch yay.
No it’s not at all but it’s an idea about how they might integrate it
I hope that the new format and rules make the game fun. The TCG had lots of moments of balance issues or fun issues, like playing against a Lost Zone deck, for example, or turns that take foreeeeever.
I'm very excited for pocket and I believe it will be a fairly big deal especially for those who are nostalgic for the original pokemania
BIG question:
Does TCG pocket going to have competitive battles? Or just collect cards and friendly battles etc
Because i have hear that TCG live is not that good etc! So what happened with the competitive battles
I strongly believe and i want to believe that they will close PTCGL and transfer what matters to PTCGP
I think pocket will be very successful, but not even close to the level of pogo, pogo was a cultural reset, it brought a lot of people that were not pokemon fans to the franchise, pocket just dont have the same four quadrant appeal, it will be successful with pokemon fans, it can be as big as that marvel cardgame which I heard is huge right now, it may even be as big as clash royale or some other mobile games, but pogo was like a second pokemania, it was constantly on the news, which made it even more popular, to think pocket can be even close to that I do agree is delusional, sorry, Toby
No honestly thank you for the reasonable comment. I’m not convinced this couldn’t be that big and I think if anything could be this has a pretty good shot
Very interested in this game!! I don't have patience to play an entire game on TCG live
Will code cards work in pocket?
Not that we know of yet
This is their chance to push TCG into mainstream. I play Snap A LOT. I love the artwork and happy to spend some money on the game because it’s FUN too.
They should rather focus on their main game TCG LIVE. It is still in a catastrophic state. Pocket is just a pure rip-off, not even the cards are the same as in real life. It's just a disgrace what the Pokemon company has been doing for the last few years. I can only advise anyone not to spend money on Pokemon Pocket to collect cards. I also collected almost all the cards in Pokemon TCG Online and spent a lot of money and then they just replaced Pokemon TCG Online with LIVE and all the cards from older series are no longer available. An absolute SCAM and that's exactly what will happen again in Pocket. For me, it's just a rip-off of naive customers. And when I look at the comments here, there are a lot of them and that's exactly what they know how to exploit.
im hyped until proven wrong
I'm just glad the TCG doesn't have all the types, and the match-ups are all wonky. That was, and still is, a huge turn-off for me. Took me out of the scene entirely. Which has saved me a lot of money over the years. There are a lot of Pokémon that are neglected in the TCG as well, so people who don't have good representation of their favorites will also be out. For those reasons, I can't see this being as big as GO. But, for the reasons you mentioned, I can definitely see it being successful.
That’s interesting I’ve never thought of those reason Turning anyone away from the TCG before
Just so you know, last winter, 85% of all Pokémon evolution lines had competitive viability
And another 7% had cards that might not be the greatest in a competitive setting, but are good enough to beat to decks ~40~% of the time
Just so you know, last winter, 85% of all Pokémon evolution lines had competitive viability
And another 7% had cards that might not be the greatest in a competitive setting, but are good enough to beat to decks ~40~% of the time
Also, sinse 2022, the game has been very non consequensal by the weaknesses on your winrates, as long as you know how to play the matchup
I’m ready to learn about Pokemon trading card I never bought a pack in my life as I don’t know anything about it but I’m looking forward to this app/game
Pocket has nothing to do with the real Trading Card Game. It is a slimmed-down version and does not even contain the real cards, but modified cards that do not exist in real life. Have I already mentioned Pay2Win? I can only recommend that if you want to spend money, then buy real cards.
I got two Charizard one gold and ex two Blastoise one venasuar mewtwo ex aracaine ex zapdos ex articuno regular one gengar ex and been three days since playing I just need two moltress ex to combo my Charizard deck need two misty support stamie ex and Greninja ex an and articuno ex and gardvoir to support mewtwo got two ralts and two kirlia hopefully i get it before the game release in global to do verses match and pvp and trade
Im looking forward to trying this
2 packs a day is plenty enough for me 😅
This will be a gacha, I’m foreseeing
Is it an actual trading card game? Live wasnt despite it being in the name.
it's gonna be HUUUUUGE
Has this person never heard of Pokemon TCG Live? There’s already a card game app for Pokemon, but it runs like crap.
But he’s existing in a world where he doesn’t even acknowledge the game?
TCG live is a different thing. It’s an online version of an existing game (and yeah the app runs like crap) not new game featuring pokemon cards built for mobile. Maybe I’ll do a video on just this
@@cardkeepertoby Didn’t realize that. So this game’s cards are modified specifically FOR this version of the game?
I really wish they would show off the battling side officially more because so far it’s catering to collector people but I’ve been dying for an actual Pokemon mobile game that is collection and battling that doesn’t run like garbage.
you are comparing apples to oranges.
main line pokemon games are in most cases, one time buy and isnt competitive. Trading card games are competitive and most people either hate losing or spending real money just to win and then lose again
This is false the main line game do have competitive aspects. For casual they dont care sure but pokemon comp battles are very very popular in todays age now. All TCG games are like that this comes from a yugioh player we get salty but it is what it is.
I feel like this TCG Pocket is more balanced for Pokemon Card Collectors... and I feel like there are much more card collectors than card players, especially professional players. That said, it's also more balanced for them in that the game is easier for them to play and get into as well. I might be over-assuming, but it seems like it might take the aspect of play similar to how the Pokemon TCG video games simplified the TCG in the past as well as something like Yugioh duel Links where it feels like you are playing the regular game even though it is a condensed and simplified version. (And Duel Links was super popular, not sure if still is, but likely so)
I don't know if it will do anything to TCG Live though... I think that is the big question mark and just the assumption that the devs are smart enough to not have the two games trip over each others toes... That said, I also already signed up for Pocket's preregister, so I'm all in.
Retirement didn’t last long
I totally agree that this game is going to be huge. I would not be surprised if a lot of 90’s kids play for the nostalgia, similar to Go.
Do you think there will be a story mode similar to Masters? I’m guessing yes, and that it will award some of the cinematic cards, and that those cards will relate to the story.
I hope so I think that’s be super cool :D what a fun idea
No Toby this correct. This will be massive
Pocket is and will be great. Chill.
In this video I'm talking about how great I think the game is going to be :') I think this comment belongs on a later video
@@cardkeepertoby oh, I went to the tablet to write that comment
I think it will really good I’m excited to play
Anyone play Marvel Snap?
For anyone curious, he’s just saying a bunch of shit that’s not even close to being true. First off you can’t spend money in that game and also you don’t get 2 free packs per day. You get 2 daily quests per day and that’s all. I’m gonna hit the don’t ever recommend this garbage channel again button thanks 👍🏼