You can power pretty much anything off of PoE if you have the power budget on your switch (or are using an injector). I use these a lot: amzn.to/49a1eAS. They only caveat with the FP2 is that it cannot be a USB PD charger, it has to be a "regular" USB C charger.
You mention that functions are lost depending on whether the unit is installed on the wall or ceiling. Could 2 units be used in the same room to achieve all functions? For example 1 unit on the wall for presence, movement and zones and a 2nd unit on the ceiling to detect falls? Many thanks
I would think so. I actually saw their demo at CES and it had four devices operating in the same room. They've even added a new feature where you can put it at a 45° angle down on a wall and it will detect sleep information like respiration and heart rate.
5:47 wait so I can't connect it with a usb-c to usb-c cable? I was thinking about plugging it into a wall socket that includes a usb-c port, is this possible?
It depends on what type of charger it is. If it is a USB PD charger then no. A regular USB C style should work. If you look on your charger it should say USB PD if it is that type (usually in very small text).
I mean the brick that plugs into the wall. One of the confusing things about USBC is multiple protocols that use that exact same plug. Look at the side of the brick and see if it says USBC or USB PD. USB PD is a smart charger that requires the device to communicate with it to tell it what voltage to send. Unfortunately it looks like this device doesn't do that and so therefore won't charge with that style of charger.
@thisSmartHouse you mention that features are lost depending on the mounting style used. Can more than one unit be used in one room to take advantage of both features? For example, 1 unit wall mounted for movement, zones and automation and 1 unit ceiling mounted providing alerts for falls only? Thank you
Unfortunatly my last dog passed before I had the chance to set it up, but I think it can tell the difference between a pet and a person (usually the mass of the object).
Great Video ! - Any idea how I can ensure lights stay on when out of view of FP2? I have a small shower room but shower is in Nook with glass door. There is a single door entrance to the room so I just need to ensure “presence” is determined and maintained when entering and “Absense” is when exiting? Is this possible? Tks
Hey Reed, I cannot get my Aqara M1S connected for the life of me. Had it but it won’t reconnect anymore. Their support team has been of no help. Any thoughts? Thanks
Home Assistant has built in Home Kit support. So even if you don't use other apple products it will detect and let you add it via the home kit integration.
When you Say wall install vs ceiling install, how about placing it on the wall but all up, just near the ceiling ? Also, how does it know if it is on the wall vs ceiling ?
They recommend to keep the sensor about head height if you're going to install on the wall. You could certainly try that and see how it affects its sensing distance when you are close to the sensor. It knows because I think there's an accelerometer on board that can detect if it is sitting vertical or flat.
@@ThisSmartHouse okay great. When I first thought I heard you say you needed home kit in order to have it talk to home assistant I thought, well that's pretty dumb.
I usually don't leave this kind of feedback, but the room echo is super intense in this video to the point it's hard to focus on what's being said. Do consider some sound treatment for the recording room or a different style of microphone. Moving microphone as close as possible (boom arm on a cheap light stand) also helps, or a lavalier type mic, or the excellent RODE wireless series. Nonetheless, thanks a lot for the in depth guide and the effort that goes into creating these.
I appreciate the direct and honest feedback. I filmed this in my basement which of course as you can imagine is not good acoustically. I am using a lav mic (DJI Mic), the same I use on all my videos. The challenge is I like to film and different parts of the house which I can't acoustically isolate. But again I appreciate the feedback and I will see what I can do about it.
You mean to use the Aqara FP2? You don't have to have an apple device, you are just using the HomeKit protocol. Once you set up the FP2 on your network, Home Assistant should recognize it in the Integrations tab. Then you will provide the HomeKit pairing code to Home Assistant. Once it is paired you will see the zones, light sensor, and "overall" presense sensor.
Have you tried temporarily disabling the 5Ghz from your eero? that assuming the issue is in the initial setup of the FP2 or other device that only works on 2.4GHz. I have had some 2.4Ghz devices where I had to do that for them to connect during the initial setup.
Is there the possibility to differentiate between cats and humans? We have cats in the house and I don't want to switch on the lights if a cat enters the room.
after more than one year in a complex homekit environment. this is a buggy sensor in the most of cases of daily use for a normal family, better the previous version, limited but it work well, no false detection.
The latest firmware update seemed to have fixed the ghost issues. It feels a lot faster, and they introduced the AI learning feature that looks to work better.
Great video and well thought out, Thank You. But at 83 USD for a single sensor no thank you. To expensive. I don't need all the extras that it has. Being able to setup zones would be nice. But i can buy a LD2410C mmWave sensors for under 4 USD add a D! mini form factor ESP32 for under 4 USD a Project case for around 2.50 USD and you have a great human presence sensor for around 8 times cheaper and does what i need it to do, as well as most people i would think.
As long as there's an open source project to support those sensors I think they'll be great. I think what you're paying for with a sensor is the algorithm that determines location and number of people in the room.
I just purchased this FP2 sensor and managed to set it up correctly in the Aqara app. HOWEVER, when adding it to Google Home, I can only use it as a motion sensor, in a very weird way: When entering a zone, it triggers both device.state.MotionDetection motionDetectionEventInProgress true and false, and when exiting a zone, it triggers device.state.MotionDetection motionDetectionEventInProgress false. Is there any way I can use this sensor in Google Home as a presence sensor and not just as a broken PIR motion sensor? (device.state.OccupancySensing is not showing up for a zone, only device.state.MotionDetection)
On my system it shows up with one motion sensor per zone and an overall sensor. If a zone sensor is tripped it also trips the overall sensor. Basically until there are no motion events in any zones the overall sensor should show motion.
I used the fp2 last fews weeks, It doesn't work precisely, it doesn't update, it keeps seeing people in an empty room, I have to turn off the lights myself, it's not worth the money.
I wish I could go this far but its just too much stuff for me. So I go simple phillips hue sensor in a spot for my dad so the light come on or the front door. Simple. My dog was tripping it so I moved it higher up and tilted so it only goes off for humans.. simple. Would love all these automations but they all compete with one another. Example my hue redundancy switches for my wife and that hue sensor for my dad. Still figuring that out.
I own one of these and it’s very very JANKY. The software never stays up to par. It drops a lot and when the initial room scan doesn’t measure the room correctly. Also many many times it states there are 2 or 3 people in the room when I’m alone. Cool idea but just like most AAA games. It’s not completed at launch. Wait a few years for all of us to pay for the company to complete testing.
I have two different ones and one has a ton of "ghosts". I think it might be hardware or the environment. I need to swap them and see if the issue persists. It might be interference.
@@ThisSmartHouse checked again. Only in scene between 0:45 and 4:07 the signal level on right channel definitely different! Left channel about 2-3db lower. It's sounds like strange "rotation effect". I will assume, that you made a mistake on post-production. F. E. maybe you duplicated channel, and than performed an EQ correction, but with zero-latency EQ and signal phase on lows go for a long walk. Another case - you shifted a duplicated signal in time a little, that will might not affect highs but can take serious effect on lower mids. It sounds like shifted inverted signals, that cancels each other. I'm not a professional sound engineer, btw. it's only assumptions. P. S. I think it hurts me so much because of my decent audio setup... P. P. S. Video is cool anyway, thank you for you efforts!
I don't think it's a choice that they made. But a limitation of the technology. If you think about it it can measure the distance and angle from the sensor. Which means if it's mounted against a wall you can see where you are in the room. If mounted from the ceiling they can see where they are in the room in a 2D plane plus their distance from the floor.
@ThisSmartHouse if they make it so you can have 2 in the same room, one on the ceiling and the other on the wall. They both talk to each other to get a full map of the room
I get that the title has to be attractive so people click your video and watch it, but all you did is an overview of the product, nothing in depth at all for this to be called a "Master Guide"... You didn't even elaborate more about the zone mapping as this is one of the core features of the sensor... I was expecting at least some tips on how to optimize the zone setup or something along those lines.
i've watched a few reviews of this product. But this one is the best by far!! great job, dude !
Great shout out to Lewis. Nice, when creators acknowledge others for their efforts. 👍
Absolutely
Great presentation!
Just a question, would it work from behind a window to monitor a Zone outside?
well thought out and informative post.. Thank you
Very welcome
What an amazing video and explanation. Congrats! New sub here 😊
Glad the video helped!
Great review, could you please tell something more about POE connection, or link some products? Thanks!
You can power pretty much anything off of PoE if you have the power budget on your switch (or are using an injector). I use these a lot: amzn.to/49a1eAS. They only caveat with the FP2 is that it cannot be a USB PD charger, it has to be a "regular" USB C charger.
@@ThisSmartHouse Thanks! Is the regular POE enough or maybe it needs POE+?
You mention that functions are lost depending on whether the unit is installed on the wall or ceiling. Could 2 units be used in the same room to achieve all functions? For example 1 unit on the wall for presence, movement and zones and a 2nd unit on the ceiling to detect falls? Many thanks
I would think so. I actually saw their demo at CES and it had four devices operating in the same room.
They've even added a new feature where you can put it at a 45° angle down on a wall and it will detect sleep information like respiration and heart rate.
Is there a way to redo the edge detection setup if you change the sensor location?
Sneakers is a great movie!
Thanks for the demo and info. have a great day
Can you connect Home Assistant with the Aqara Hub via Matter? I'd rather avoid using Homekit if possible
Friend, can you tell me please if fp2 works great with fans ? May tuya sensor has many false detections with fans😢
Wohooo
Awesome video as always!
Thanks Rishab!!!
5:47 wait so I can't connect it with a usb-c to usb-c cable? I was thinking about plugging it into a wall socket that includes a usb-c port, is this possible?
It depends on what type of charger it is. If it is a USB PD charger then no. A regular USB C style should work. If you look on your charger it should say USB PD if it is that type (usually in very small text).
@@ThisSmartHouse by charger do you mean the cable or the brick? The wall socket is a usb-c port so I won’t be connecting a brick to it.
I mean the brick that plugs into the wall. One of the confusing things about USBC is multiple protocols that use that exact same plug. Look at the side of the brick and see if it says USBC or USB PD. USB PD is a smart charger that requires the device to communicate with it to tell it what voltage to send. Unfortunately it looks like this device doesn't do that and so therefore won't charge with that style of charger.
@thisSmartHouse you mention that features are lost depending on the mounting style used. Can more than one unit be used in one room to take advantage of both features? For example, 1 unit wall mounted for movement, zones and automation and 1 unit ceiling mounted providing alerts for falls only? Thank you
Great Video, what’s it like with Pets ? If my dog walks around I’m guessing this could cause a trigger ?😊
Unfortunatly my last dog passed before I had the chance to set it up, but I think it can tell the difference between a pet and a person (usually the mass of the object).
Great Video ! - Any idea how I can ensure lights stay on when out of view of FP2? I have a small shower room but shower is in Nook with glass door. There is a single door entrance to the room so I just need to ensure “presence” is determined and maintained when entering and “Absense” is when exiting? Is this possible? Tks
What about a simple ceiling mounted motion sensor instead?
Hey Reed, I cannot get my Aqara M1S connected for the life of me. Had it but it won’t reconnect anymore. Their support team has been of no help. Any thoughts? Thanks
Did you remove it from the Aqara app and factory reset it? Make sure it isn't connected to the MI home app (if you used it there before).
how would I add it to home assistant if I do not have any apple devices? so I am unable to use homekit.
Home Assistant has built in Home Kit support. So even if you don't use other apple products it will detect and let you add it via the home kit integration.
@ThisSmartHouse interesting.. I must have done something wrong. It did not pick up the device at all.
When you Say wall install vs ceiling install, how about placing it on the wall but all up, just near the ceiling ? Also, how does it know if it is on the wall vs ceiling ?
They recommend to keep the sensor about head height if you're going to install on the wall. You could certainly try that and see how it affects its sensing distance when you are close to the sensor.
It knows because I think there's an accelerometer on board that can detect if it is sitting vertical or flat.
I wish you had totally set this up in the app. Is there a video out there that shows this. I am going to be using Alexa. Thank you either way.
What are you struggling with?
@@ThisSmartHouse the app itself. I need to get it figured out. Ugh
This sensor works great with fans?
I haven't seen issues with either of mine. But all I have is small table top fans in those rooms.
This is pure class. Thank you .
I'm multitasking as I watch your video so maybe I just misunderstood, but do I need home kit to pair this with home assistant?
Nope. Home Assistant can "speak" HomeKit. So it natively integrates.
@@ThisSmartHouse okay great. When I first thought I heard you say you needed home kit in order to have it talk to home assistant I thought, well that's pretty dumb.
So this thing only integrates with Home Assistant if you have Apple Home Kit
No it uses the built in HomeKit protocol within Home Assistant. Basically, Home Assistant acts like a HomeKit hub. Nothing else is required.
Is there a distance limit from the sensor? My room is very long
I am sure there is a sensing limit, but I don't know if it is published. Maybe 30ft?
@@ThisSmartHouse thanks. I tried it out. A bit too buggy for me. Sometimes it works perfect though
Did you go through the automated set up? It seems to find interference better that I could.
I usually don't leave this kind of feedback, but the room echo is super intense in this video to the point it's hard to focus on what's being said. Do consider some sound treatment for the recording room or a different style of microphone. Moving microphone as close as possible (boom arm on a cheap light stand) also helps, or a lavalier type mic, or the excellent RODE wireless series. Nonetheless, thanks a lot for the in depth guide and the effort that goes into creating these.
I appreciate the direct and honest feedback. I filmed this in my basement which of course as you can imagine is not good acoustically. I am using a lav mic (DJI Mic), the same I use on all my videos.
The challenge is I like to film and different parts of the house which I can't acoustically isolate.
But again I appreciate the feedback and I will see what I can do about it.
So for HASS I must have at least one Apple device?
You mean to use the Aqara FP2? You don't have to have an apple device, you are just using the HomeKit protocol. Once you set up the FP2 on your network, Home Assistant should recognize it in the Integrations tab. Then you will provide the HomeKit pairing code to Home Assistant. Once it is paired you will see the zones, light sensor, and "overall" presense sensor.
OK that’s all fine and well 2.4 GHz but my new EERO device from my cable provider does not provide 2.4 GHz
Really? It doesn't provide a dedicated 2.4 or no 2.4 at all? Because must don't devices support 5ghz.
@ThisSmartHouse
I have a myQ garage door opener will not connect under circumstances.
Have you tried temporarily disabling the 5Ghz from your eero? that assuming the issue is in the initial setup of the FP2 or other device that only works on 2.4GHz. I have had some 2.4Ghz devices where I had to do that for them to connect during the initial setup.
@@jcarriagacr tried that still couldn’t get it to connect. Maybe my garage door opener just don’t want to be nice.
Is there the possibility to differentiate between cats and humans? We have cats in the house and I don't want to switch on the lights if a cat enters the room.
I know it ignores small dogs so I'd think it will do the same for cats 😊
Yes I think it detects based on the size of the person. It does detect my 4 year olds. So not sure if you have really big dogs it might get confused.
@@Only1Sosa. This is great! Thanks for the information.
@@ThisSmartHouse We have just cats, thus it should work. Possibly. Thanks for the information!
Greate video, since Homey Pro is getting a huge traction, my request would be to include setup for Homey Pro if possible
after more than one year in a complex homekit environment. this is a buggy sensor in the most of cases of daily use for a normal family, better the previous version, limited but it work well, no false detection.
Mine have been pretty solid. Once is tuned it to the rooms. What bugs have you seen?
It so hard to set up aqura and the sensor and of course it doesn’t work with smartthings
Works better with Alexa then Google Home. But it's still giving me "ghost" person detection. Since the last update, it is just slow for me.
I will get ghost detection as well. I keep doing the "no person" retraining.
The latest firmware update seemed to have fixed the ghost issues. It feels a lot faster, and they introduced the AI learning feature that looks to work better.
Great video and well thought out, Thank You. But at 83 USD for a single sensor no thank you. To expensive. I don't need all the extras that it has. Being able to setup zones would be nice. But i can buy a LD2410C mmWave sensors for under 4 USD add a D! mini form factor ESP32 for under 4 USD a Project case for around 2.50 USD and you have a great human presence sensor for around 8 times cheaper and does what i need it to do, as well as most people i would think.
As long as there's an open source project to support those sensors I think they'll be great. I think what you're paying for with a sensor is the algorithm that determines location and number of people in the room.
@@ThisSmartHouse2:18 2:18
What about the timestamp?
I just purchased this FP2 sensor and managed to set it up correctly in the Aqara app. HOWEVER, when adding it to Google Home, I can only use it as a motion sensor, in a very weird way:
When entering a zone, it triggers both device.state.MotionDetection motionDetectionEventInProgress true and false, and when exiting a zone, it triggers device.state.MotionDetection motionDetectionEventInProgress false. Is there any way I can use this sensor in Google Home as a presence sensor and not just as a broken PIR motion sensor?
(device.state.OccupancySensing is not showing up for a zone, only device.state.MotionDetection)
On my system it shows up with one motion sensor per zone and an overall sensor. If a zone sensor is tripped it also trips the overall sensor. Basically until there are no motion events in any zones the overall sensor should show motion.
I used the fp2 last fews weeks, It doesn't work precisely, it doesn't update, it keeps seeing people in an empty room, I have to turn off the lights myself, it's not worth the money.
I wish I could go this far but its just too much stuff for me. So I go simple phillips hue sensor in a spot for my dad so the light come on or the front door. Simple. My dog was tripping it so I moved it higher up and tilted so it only goes off for humans.. simple. Would love all these automations but they all compete with one another. Example my hue redundancy switches for my wife and that hue sensor for my dad. Still figuring that out.
I own one of these and it’s very very JANKY. The software never stays up to par. It drops a lot and when the initial room scan doesn’t measure the room correctly. Also many many times it states there are 2 or 3 people in the room when I’m alone. Cool idea but just like most AAA games. It’s not completed at launch. Wait a few years for all of us to pay for the company to complete testing.
I have two different ones and one has a ton of "ghosts". I think it might be hardware or the environment. I need to swap them and see if the issue persists. It might be interference.
I am entousiast
Awesome
My FP2 got destroyed in transit 😭
Noooooooooo. That really sucks
What was the point to make your voice juggling from left to tight in stereo??? My poor ears(
Might be a glitch in your player. I record in mono and duplicate into stereo, so there would be no way for that to happen.
@@ThisSmartHouse Nope occurs for me to on TH-cam app
@@ThisSmartHouse hmmm… This only happened in first part of the video. I’ll check in more detail later…
@@ThisSmartHouse checked again. Only in scene between 0:45 and 4:07 the signal level on right channel definitely different! Left channel about 2-3db lower.
It's sounds like strange "rotation effect". I will assume, that you made a mistake on post-production. F. E. maybe you duplicated channel, and than performed an EQ correction, but with zero-latency EQ and signal phase on lows go for a long walk.
Another case - you shifted a duplicated signal in time a little, that will might not affect highs but can take serious effect on lower mids. It sounds like shifted inverted signals, that cancels each other.
I'm not a professional sound engineer, btw. it's only assumptions.
P. S. I think it hurts me so much because of my decent audio setup...
P. P. S. Video is cool anyway, thank you for you efforts!
its stupid how it only gives you fall detection or zone controll depending on mount loaction, all features should be available no matter loaction
I don't think it's a choice that they made. But a limitation of the technology.
If you think about it it can measure the distance and angle from the sensor. Which means if it's mounted against a wall you can see where you are in the room. If mounted from the ceiling they can see where they are in the room in a 2D plane plus their distance from the floor.
@ThisSmartHouse if they make it so you can have 2 in the same room, one on the ceiling and the other on the wall. They both talk to each other to get a full map of the room
@jackofalltrades4091 That would be neat. But I believe they interfere if they are in the same room.
I get that the title has to be attractive so people click your video and watch it, but all you did is an overview of the product, nothing in depth at all for this to be called a "Master Guide"... You didn't even elaborate more about the zone mapping as this is one of the core features of the sensor... I was expecting at least some tips on how to optimize the zone setup or something along those lines.
lol it's a 2 amp power supply .. the sensor will not work - wont connect to the app to set up with a 1 amp power supply
5V - 1A as per: www.aqara.com/us/product/presence-sensor-fp2/specs/
Jesus he talks to much, bro get to the video!!