I really like the use of the drone. This is helpful for us tourists, but also for the towing company to review and learn. Also the insurance company might also benefit their investigation. Very cool work guys!
OKS !!! Great recovery by both Companies as NO new damage was done to the container !!! Didn't even scratch the paint !!! Good to know that all Companies work together to get the job done & As always ''' KEEP IT SAFE """!!!!!
OKS !!! Couldn't really tell if this is the same container co. that you had to recover on the mountain road & on the other interstate on ramp ???? Anyhows,, if it is ,,they are GOOD customer to have as always have recovery work to do !!!
and the best part of it all.... the folks sleeping in the tents underneath the bridge never even knew what was going on above their heads, that's how smooth these two companies work ;)
Greetings from Brooklyn, New York City. Great to see that we can all get along without stressing one another out sharing is about respecting each others. Jealousy and Hate will never allow us to be great friends and neighbors, we can all learn something here from two companies working together without any animosity or bad blood. Great workmanship together, thank you Pepe's and Van Lingen for not allowing your muscles to get in the way of teamwork friendship. Where're you Big Flipper?
I really enjoyed the drone shots of the L.A. River. when I was a kid in the 70's I used to spend a lot of time down there riding my bicycle and mini-bike. Once in a while the cops would chase me out!
You can make super tight turns with axles slid forward on those landol trailers I used to use that trick to get in and out of some tight jams . You guys in L A have some impressive fleets and alot of work to show off your skills very impressed.
Very interesting clip. beautiful Rotators and Wrecker from the Van Lingen Company. Awesome and beautiful fotage from the Drone. Some arts of the canalflight reminds me on movie scence for example "Terminator" .. Nice job.
Great team work or should I say first rate quality team/salvage work guys (Van Lingen/Pepe's Towing Service) and the drone footage of your salvage operations is top quality, big thumbs 👍👍👍👍👍👍 up to Pepe's Towing Service Los Angeles, California, USA for this great video footage. DJI Mavic Zoom 2 ~ I'll certainly be getting that same Drone this is just awesome video footage, best I have ever seen !!! PS : Container loaders/lumpers bringing in the revenue in more ways than one !!!
That bridge makes for some interesting ground loading. Now every time I drive by and see that busted out concrete, I'll know it was from a container full of safes!
This happens in New Jersey just about every other day on the 78 East just passed a toll booth Exit 14 on ramp getting on around the loop ramp every week There's a tractor trailer flipped on its side because the driver was going too fast with a load word of advice for drivers out there having patience is a Good Thing and in some cases having patience can save your life
Julius Adams hello, EXIT 15 N,,ON THE WESTERN SPUR, THE SPEED LIMIT WENT DOWN TO 15MPH, BECAUSE OF ROLLOVERS+ the exit is NOT GRADED properly, Then I 287N to I 80 W garbage trailers are ALWAYS ROLLING OVER, few days ago I 78 E N HAD a TT ROLLOVER closing both directions for a few hours.,, Cheers From NJ. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Awesome Video! I follow Van Lingren and another Tow company out of Jefferson City, MO by the name of Ron Pratt. It's interesting that you all use rotators from different companies. Love the 'Tators! Keep up the great work.
I watched recovery of concrete pumper that went through cd on I-10 @ Riverside Dr. exit(that killed 5 people). They had 4 rotators, 1 on each corner, and 4 different companies. That was something to watch! Thanks again. Like Statewide's Equipment, drool at Pepe's too! lol
We were one of those rotators lol, we showed up with our 60-ton, that was Statewide's call. They still have it at their yard, we might get the call soon when the paperwork is done to lift it again to transport it out.
I met a driver for Statewide and we talked about that accident. He said it was a mechanic that was driving and the dude fell asleep while driving...And he's still in jail.
@@rickallman1318 Holy crap I did not know he's still in jail. That is seriously sad what happened to all those people. Shut down both sides of the freeway all day. I posted a picture of all four rotators lifting it on my instagram page, it's one of my favorite pictures
Another great job and video!!! Any idea of the actual weight of the container? I’m thinking Way over 42k? Is there video of the cement pumper coming? And thoughts and prayers to everyone involved on that one. People don’t realize how much it effects not just the families, but everyone that’s involved in the recovery cleanup. I still have some that stayed with me from the late 1980s
Thank you! I'm not sure, but it def was over 40k. This sucker was heavy even on my 3 axle lowboy. The mixer video is coming, I just can't post it yet for legal reasons.
the first this is a really amazing vedeo!! great team this recovery company!! this guy's are a really fucking good!! 👌 Jesus a lot dangerous semi truck drivers 😞 cheers from Norway please keep the eyes on road! leave the damm cell phone on bag!!
Awesome footage and partnership with another firm.. darn that jerrdann makes everything look puny and tiny... that is one serious piece of expensive kit.. I suspect that was brought out due to its sheer boom length capacity in that bridge situation yes ?
3D LAND hello, I had NO IDEA that JERR DAN even made such equipment, Not crazy got them either, MOST FOLKS I FOLLOW use MILLER 75 TON ROTATORS, OH WELL. Cheers From NJ🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Nope, it would be useless anyway because of how loud they are. You enable the setting from the DJI app to use your phone for the audio. It will cache along with the video to your phone. From there, I split the audio from the video cache and overlay it to the video that's stored on the memory card of the drone.
I don't believe we've ever called another company for a tag team recovery. We have been called though many times by various companies to tag team their recoveries.
Those containers are always heavy? I load them truck drivers up every night because I drive those big ass cranes on the water front the loads are between 18 tons - 20 tons 🙊🙊🙊🙊
I pull containers. The forwarder will tell you it's a 40000 lb load. Then you cross a scale and the actual weight is 46000 lbs + was the driver too fast for conditions. Weigh the sealed box subtract the known tare weight of the box trailer/chassis and truck. I bet the forwarder lighted the bills. Or load shift. I've seen that as well.
nice job, now im not a tower, but i watch all the tow vids i can find, i am wondering WHY? w 2 rotators with 4 boom winches why you seperate the tractor & trailor from the container when i see many other vids where they use the either or use 1 set of winches to lift and the other to catch to upright the whole truck trailor and container as one, then seperate the tractor from the trailor back another tractor under it move the trailor off the roadway to clean up & restore traffic and then finish the unload of trailor. can someone explain please cause i see this more w tow op`s in cali then anywhere else.
I'm not sure if you saw the entire video, but how would that be any faster? That would probably take longer. The load was unstable, and their trucks were positioned far from the container. Could the 1075 uprighted the container at that distance? I'm sure it could, but why would you do that when the locks broke off and risk the load shifting? When you are working a very difficult call like this, your main priority is safety, not clearing traffic on a freeway that already has shitty traffic (the 405). That onramp it was on is already on a curve, what would have happened if they tried to save five minutes, upright it from where it was, then the load shifts and it goes over again the opposite way? We both have done hundreds of rollovers where everything gets uprighted at once, for this job they made the smart call to split it. Every job is different, you can't look at this one and say "I'm not a tower but....".
@@PepesTowingService thanks for the reply, i saw all the vid that was posted, you answered my question on this call, i understand each call out is different and cant be compared to the last or next call. and safety is #1,and every tower do things their own way with hopefully the same results, i am not a tower, never have, i just noticed a small trend and i asked a question to help me understand better. your vids dont really explain the condition of the wreck, yeah i see it rolled but there is alot unknown to the viewer because your vids dont really show you pulling up on seen and doing a walk around or yous conversing as to the manner or how your going to clear the wreck. as a veiwer, is it wrong for me to ask if it is possible in future vids to be more informative to your views/followers as to why you clear a wreck in a certain way so we understand better what were watching, Not all your viewers work in the tow business. and the camera is the behind the scene look of how & what towers do.
@@scotthaught1 You should check out my other videos. I posted a bobtail that split open with sauce recently and I am very informative there, most of mine are. In this case this wasn't my call, I am with Pepe's Towing and I just happened to assist in this call that went to Van Lingen. They had more info and facts than me, but I'm the one shooting the video. I do try and be informative in my personal videos.
Thanks Pepe's for video. Nice drone. Nice Equipment. I want to take issue. 2nd Rotator behind 2 axle steer shut down too soon! He could have put a cable onto to rear corner nearest him. To stabilize container from pivoting the other way; While 2 axle steer was positioning container after low boy backed under it. Also why (double steer) didn't boom out another ft and rotate a little more? I know it was a heavy trlr, but...lol. Otherwise, great recovery! Too many idiot cdl holders and lack of enough(if any) training by their employer! Job security for you guys.
I'm sure there are a lot of ways it could have been done, but Van Lingen did it quick and easy. For the pivot issue, if you notice in the beginning of the video you can see there was a curb there. The container wouldn't be able to pivot that way, and there was no way it would pivot the opposite way.
@@rickallman1318 Yes, in the beginning, I go over with the drone how at first it being over the curb created pressure on the locks and they used an air matt to get it undone.
And not a touch Rick operator but I have in the past operated heavy equipment and these guys just look like there not the best at doing their job that contain or could have no more than 42000 pounds in a. That track can lifted up by itself
This is a stupidity at its best to lay it down on its side a true professional would have stood it up Wright I would not have put this on utube the job was not well done ,the freight n the container could get damaged due to way it was left on its side 😭😭😢😲 the wrecker company should be lieable.
One of the rails I run out of picked up a box they were putting it on the train the loaded box weight broke the pins on the lift box fell about ten ft. It had 56000 lbs of logs in it. + The weight of the box.
I really like the use of the drone. This is helpful for us tourists, but also for the towing company to review and learn. Also the insurance company might also benefit their investigation. Very cool work guys!
That was a SAFE recovery... pun intended
OKS !!! Great recovery by both Companies as NO new damage was done to the container !!! Didn't even scratch the paint !!! Good to know that all Companies work together to get the job done & As always ''' KEEP IT SAFE """!!!!!
Thank you! We love working with Van Lingen.
OKS !!! Couldn't really tell if this is the same container co. that you had to recover on the mountain road & on the other interstate on ramp ???? Anyhows,, if it is ,,they are GOOD customer to have as always have recovery work to do !!!
and the best part of it all.... the folks sleeping in the tents underneath the bridge never even knew what was going on above their heads, that's how smooth these two companies work ;)
I mentioned that on scene! If they were worried so much about the bridge, why not evacuate everyone below lol. They never even knew what was going on.
Awesome video and drone footage. Highly skilled recovery team.
Yup, Van Lingen are pros
Greetings from Brooklyn, New York City. Great to see that we can all get along without stressing one another out sharing is about respecting each others. Jealousy and Hate will never allow us to be great friends and neighbors, we can all learn something here from two companies working together without any animosity or bad blood. Great workmanship together, thank you Pepe's and Van Lingen for not allowing your muscles to get in the way of teamwork friendship. Where're you Big Flipper?
Right equipment & operators for the job at hand !
Thanks bud!
It’s great to see the camaraderie between your two companies, good going👍
Man......Van Lingen has some beautiful equipment also!!!
Great job by both teams getting loaded and on the trailer/ Good work guys!
Good work by the tow companies! I drove big rigs in the entire LA/OC/SB/Riv area for 20 years. The Harbor area was the worst.
It still is lol
bro. the way you take care of almost any job with great tools that is a big respect for you ... khalid from AMMAN / JORDAN
That bill is gonna be eye watering.
I really enjoyed the drone shots of the L.A. River. when I was a kid in the 70's I used to spend a lot of time down there riding my bicycle and mini-bike. Once in a while the cops would chase me out!
Amazing video work and great narration. Good job!
Thank you!
Hey Pepe's towing service! Awesome cinematography! Those Vanlingen dudes have some fine equipment! Ride ride ride!
LOVE THE DRONE SHOTS! GREAT VIDEO AS ALWAYS! KEEP THE GREAT VIDEOS COMING!
I just go on board, great communication you have a great company of qualified personnel.
That's a cool flatbed trailer great job
Awesome video !!!!
Great team work between Pepe's and Van lingen
Thanks bud!
You can make super tight turns with axles slid forward on those landol trailers I used to use that trick to get in and out of some tight jams . You guys in L A have some impressive fleets and alot of work to show off your skills very impressed.
Very interesting clip. beautiful Rotators and Wrecker from the Van Lingen Company. Awesome and beautiful fotage from the Drone. Some arts of the canalflight reminds me on movie scence for example "Terminator" .. Nice job.
Great teamwork to clear the road and get traffic flowing again.
Thanks!
Great team work or should I say first rate quality team/salvage work guys (Van Lingen/Pepe's Towing Service) and the drone footage of your salvage operations is top quality, big thumbs 👍👍👍👍👍👍 up to Pepe's Towing Service Los Angeles, California, USA for this great video footage.
DJI Mavic Zoom 2 ~ I'll certainly be getting that same Drone this is just awesome video footage, best I have ever seen !!!
PS : Container loaders/lumpers bringing in the revenue in more ways than one !!!
REALLY enjoying the videos
Glad to hear that!
Some serious equipment on that job. Impressive job all around .
@8:37 Liked the Drone flyover of the Mosquito breeding grounds.
That's as good as it gets. Thanks guys!!!!
That bridge makes for some interesting ground loading. Now every time I drive by and see that busted out concrete, I'll know it was from a container full of safes!
Totally! lol
Nice job on your videoing. Nice job on recovery both teams. 👍👍👍
Thanks!
OMG, those living in that homeless encampment below the overpass almost got crushed. What a day to count your blessings.
Super video
Awesome job Van Lingen and awesome video Pete`s Towing
thank 4 the video pops64
This happens in New Jersey just about every other day on the 78 East just passed a toll booth Exit 14 on ramp getting on around the loop ramp every week There's a tractor trailer flipped on its side because the driver was going too fast with a load word of advice for drivers out there having patience is a Good Thing and in some cases having patience can save your life
Julius Adams hello, EXIT 15 N,,ON THE WESTERN SPUR, THE SPEED LIMIT WENT DOWN TO 15MPH, BECAUSE OF ROLLOVERS+ the exit is NOT GRADED properly, Then I 287N to I 80 W garbage trailers are ALWAYS ROLLING OVER, few days ago I 78 E N HAD a TT ROLLOVER closing both directions for a few hours.,, Cheers From NJ. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Man those VL trucks look good. I’m from Cali and I’ve never seen them before
Love the drone footage that was awesome
Appreciate it, I love my drone
What drone are you using ? It looks amazing with very good clarity.
Beast mode
Brings a feeling of cant we all just get along? Nice teamwork!
Towing industry is ruthless, but we get along fine haha
Good job guys 💪
The Idiots that loaded that container
Those loaders pay our bills haha
Hero's ~ know doubt about that 👍😎👍
That shit came from China. Nobody is getting fired
Seems to be a common practice to pack a shipping container to the brim no matter the weight of the product.
Awesome Video! I follow Van Lingren and another Tow company out of Jefferson City, MO by the name of Ron Pratt. It's interesting that you all use rotators from different companies. Love the 'Tators! Keep up the great work.
Great Video !!
Love how them peterbilts look as towtrucks ..
I watched recovery of concrete pumper that went through cd on I-10 @ Riverside Dr. exit(that killed 5 people). They had 4 rotators, 1 on each corner, and 4 different companies. That was something to watch! Thanks again. Like Statewide's Equipment, drool at Pepe's too! lol
We were one of those rotators lol, we showed up with our 60-ton, that was Statewide's call. They still have it at their yard, we might get the call soon when the paperwork is done to lift it again to transport it out.
@@PepesTowingService Ok, wasn't sure. Cool, thanks. Do you happen to know what bill turned out to be?
I met a driver for Statewide and we talked about that accident. He said it was a mechanic that was driving and the dude fell asleep while driving...And he's still in jail.
@@rickallman1318 Holy crap I did not know he's still in jail. That is seriously sad what happened to all those people. Shut down both sides of the freeway all day. I posted a picture of all four rotators lifting it on my instagram page, it's one of my favorite pictures
Just wanted to add my appreciation for the great drone footage!
I am not surprised the container took the truck over that's one top heavy load for a high skelly trailer
Another great job and video!!!
Any idea of the actual weight of the container?
I’m thinking Way over 42k?
Is there video of the cement pumper coming?
And thoughts and prayers to everyone involved on that one.
People don’t realize how much it effects not just the families, but everyone that’s involved in the recovery cleanup.
I still have some that stayed with me from the late 1980s
Thank you! I'm not sure, but it def was over 40k. This sucker was heavy even on my 3 axle lowboy. The mixer video is coming, I just can't post it yet for legal reasons.
Beaux job good job
Super image et prise de vue de la part de la france 😀
I wondered if you changed your truck colors by the thumbnail.That was some Francis ford Coppala camera work
the first this is a really amazing vedeo!! great team this recovery company!! this guy's are a really fucking good!! 👌 Jesus a lot dangerous semi truck drivers 😞 cheers from Norway please keep the eyes on road! leave the damm cell phone on bag!!
Ya, Van Lingen doesn't mess around. They've been in business for over 70 years!
Awesome footage and partnership with another firm.. darn that jerrdann makes everything look puny and tiny... that is one serious piece of expensive kit.. I suspect that was brought out due to its sheer boom length capacity in that bridge situation yes ?
You heavy recovery guys are not shy about investing some serious capital in equipment...
I'm glad you noticed, not everyone takes the investment to get top of the line equipment spec'd out like we do.
@@PepesTowingService how much are those wreckers, north of a million?
@@Will91289 Each one is different, but not north of a million. Rotators can range from 500k and up depending on size and how you spec it
3D LAND hello, I had NO IDEA that JERR DAN even made such equipment, Not crazy got them either, MOST FOLKS I FOLLOW use MILLER 75 TON ROTATORS, OH WELL. Cheers From NJ🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Nice drone video. How hard was it to get to a point where you were comfortable piloting your drone and taking vids? Great shots
I learned pretty quick, the DJI series makes it pretty easy. I do get paranoid with power lines or obstacles even though it has collision detectors.
😢😢wow
A nice landoll trailer, as Roger Dyson imported them from the United States
Does the drone have a mic on it ? I have a DJI Mavic pro and I didn’t think it did but wasn’t sure
Nope, it would be useless anyway because of how loud they are. You enable the setting from the DJI app to use your phone for the audio. It will cache along with the video to your phone. From there, I split the audio from the video cache and overlay it to the video that's stored on the memory card of the drone.
Hey are you going to post a video about that concrete mixer truck accident?
:)
How much is a job like that going to bill for?
Have ya'll ever done a tag team recovery?
I don't believe we've ever called another company for a tag team recovery. We have been called though many times by various companies to tag team their recoveries.
Those containers are always heavy? I load them truck drivers up every night because I drive those big ass cranes on the water front the loads are between 18 tons - 20 tons 🙊🙊🙊🙊
Mooie auto's hebben jullie. Hoeveel ton mogen ze tillen? Groetjes uit Nederland.!!!
Bad location. Good execution!
Top heavy or driver error?
Great! Pepe could have done it smoother....😀
I'm not sure we could have done it any smoother lol, we probably would have done it exactly the same.
I pull containers. The forwarder will tell you it's a 40000 lb load. Then you cross a scale and the actual weight is 46000 lbs + was the driver too fast for conditions. Weigh the sealed box subtract the known tare weight of the box trailer/chassis and truck. I bet the forwarder lighted the bills. Or load shift. I've seen that as well.
Concrete mixer video coming soon? 😁
Haha that's going to be the video of the year! Hopefully I'll have it ready by Saturday
70 miles per hr in the curve
Easily
Was the truck driven by Speedy Gonzales?
A heavy load on a tight bend...what could possibly go wrong?
Great recovery and documentation.
Hello. What drone and camera are you using or used in this video? I worked @ Freddie Macs in the past.
Imagine if that fell the other way and over the bridge
Did you say he was loaded with sage ?!
Chicago is a trucker's nightmare!
I wouldn't know, this is Los Angeles lol
@@PepesTowingService : Oooops! Looking for Florida. I been out there at LAX!
nice job, now im not a tower, but i watch all the tow vids i can find, i am wondering WHY? w 2 rotators with 4 boom winches why you seperate the tractor & trailor from the container when i see many other vids where they use the either or use 1 set of winches to lift and the other to catch to upright the whole truck trailor and container as one, then seperate the tractor from the trailor back another tractor under it move the trailor off the roadway to clean up & restore traffic and then finish the unload of trailor. can someone explain please cause i see this more w tow op`s in cali then anywhere else.
I'm not sure if you saw the entire video, but how would that be any faster? That would probably take longer. The load was unstable, and their trucks were positioned far from the container. Could the 1075 uprighted the container at that distance? I'm sure it could, but why would you do that when the locks broke off and risk the load shifting? When you are working a very difficult call like this, your main priority is safety, not clearing traffic on a freeway that already has shitty traffic (the 405). That onramp it was on is already on a curve, what would have happened if they tried to save five minutes, upright it from where it was, then the load shifts and it goes over again the opposite way? We both have done hundreds of rollovers where everything gets uprighted at once, for this job they made the smart call to split it. Every job is different, you can't look at this one and say "I'm not a tower but....".
@@PepesTowingService thanks for the reply, i saw all the vid that was posted, you answered my question on this call, i understand each call out is different and cant be compared to the last or next call. and safety is #1,and every tower do things their own way with hopefully the same results, i am not a tower, never have, i just noticed a small trend and i asked a question to help me understand better. your vids dont really explain the condition of the wreck, yeah i see it rolled but there is alot unknown to the viewer because your vids dont really show you pulling up on seen and doing a walk around or yous conversing as to the manner or how your going to clear the wreck. as a veiwer, is it wrong for me to ask if it is possible in future vids to be more informative to your views/followers as to why you clear a wreck in a certain way so we understand better what were watching, Not all your viewers work in the tow business. and the camera is the behind the scene look of how & what towers do.
@@scotthaught1 You should check out my other videos. I posted a bobtail that split open with sauce recently and I am very informative there, most of mine are. In this case this wasn't my call, I am with Pepe's Towing and I just happened to assist in this call that went to Van Lingen. They had more info and facts than me, but I'm the one shooting the video. I do try and be informative in my personal videos.
Thanks Pepe's for video. Nice drone. Nice Equipment. I want to take issue. 2nd Rotator behind 2 axle steer shut down too soon! He could have put a cable onto to rear corner nearest him. To stabilize container from pivoting the other way; While 2 axle steer was positioning container after low boy backed under it. Also why (double steer) didn't boom out another ft and rotate a little more? I know it was a heavy trlr, but...lol. Otherwise, great recovery! Too many idiot cdl holders and lack of enough(if any) training by their employer! Job security for you guys.
I'm sure there are a lot of ways it could have been done, but Van Lingen did it quick and easy. For the pivot issue, if you notice in the beginning of the video you can see there was a curb there. The container wouldn't be able to pivot that way, and there was no way it would pivot the opposite way.
@@PepesTowingService Definately, Ok, thanks.
Again, good video, couldn't see that part, my bad. So operator lifted that corner off curb and used curb as brace. Ok, thanks. Good idea, lol.
@@rickallman1318 Yes, in the beginning, I go over with the drone how at first it being over the curb created pressure on the locks and they used an air matt to get it undone.
Cool video. What drone do you have?
DJI Mavic Zoom 2
Sorry rear corner away from him.
Lol that’s not a “safe” load or driver sorry had to. Hope the guy survived.
I never notice the homeless camps under the freeway
Me either so sad California's so beautiful dems destroying the state
What are yous doing boom down
I'm not sure what this question means
thats the 110 on ramp to the 91 east
710 to the 405 actually
@@PepesTowingService dam.... sorry your right the LA river threw me off anyway awesome video love them all
@@hoss2472 Thank you!
#40 Thumbs uP
Note to self don't buy a safe from Costco
csnu62243327 this was the cans' last delivery, scrapped after this last delivery to the middle of the 405
And not a touch Rick operator but I have in the past operated heavy equipment and these guys just look like there not the best at doing their job that contain or could have no more than 42000 pounds in a. That track can lifted up by itself
Both teams need to paint flames on there trucks
No they don't
@@PepesTowingService lol I was just kidding y'alls trucks look sharp as they are especially the one y'all got hooked up to the landall
I what drone you have?
DJI Mavic 2 zoom
I think Pepe's crew does the job better
NEVER GiVE UP 🎹
Size matters for PeePee's tugging!
I hope that truck driver is never given his license back.. 🤦🏼♂️
This is a stupidity at its best to lay it down on its side a true professional would have stood it up Wright I would not have put this on utube the job was not well done ,the freight n the container could get damaged due to way it was left on its side 😭😭😢😲 the wrecker company should be lieable.
Go fix your English
It was already on its side.
never seen a container literally ripped like that at 20:37
That's how fast this guy was going, the impact with all that weight just ripped it open
One of the rails I run out of picked up a box they were putting it on the train the loaded box weight broke the pins on the lift box fell about ten ft. It had 56000 lbs of logs in it. + The weight of the box.