Very true, looking at so much of the gameplay I've seen so far my immediate reaction has been "This already looks great, AND this platform will be so fun for the community to iterate on!"
As exciting as that is conceptually, it's worth noting that neither AoW 3 or Planetfall have had much genuine in the way of modding. They've been extremely limited in terms of the inclusion of new models/assets, which keeps mods restricted primarily to numerical tweaks and adjustments.
I am definitely excited for this game. looks fun, I'm very excited for all the levels of customization. These types of games (especially from Paradox) are very much about the DLC. Here's a basic game. now lets make it an awesome game with cool add ons. This looks awesome from the start, and your excitement (comes through in your voice) just confirms that for me. I'll find out on the 2nd.
I was gonna this is the first game in this genre thats imo has come out fully loaded in years. Atleast compared to civ 6 and humankind. I started following it a couple of days ago and there's so much right out the gate. Jumbo and Potato have definitely sold me based on the content alone. Can't wait until tomorrow 😂
oh god thats what im afraid of, do people really now look at Stellaris and think "gee i wish every game had that much dlc" ? This was a big worry with aow3 when paradox became publishing and the game series has slowly evolved into a paradox game more and more
I can’t wait for this game. Also while I agree the combat mechanics kinda remind me of Total War (Warhammer 3 specifically with the heroes and magic) I think it more reminds me of something like Heroes of Might and Magic. Great video!
Even stuff like having multiple heroes and the magic system reminds me a lot of it. This game feels like a dream come true and I absolutely cannot wait to spend days playing it. Also can’t wait for the mods and dlc if this game becomes really popular 😄 This is one of those games that I feel like could never have too many races/realm traits/options/hero cosmetics. At least for me
@maegnificant the one thing that makes me question to buy this or not, total warhammer and stellaris have nearly ruined me for their smooth rts gameplay
Pre-ordered this, first Age of Wonders game ever. I’m ready for a slow deep dive enjoying the lore and stories, immersion and action. Can’t wait, especially after your review, thanks!
Paradox did do a good job picking up Triumph and I think Triumph got a lot to benefit having Paradox's help even if they still seem to operate mostly on their own. The studio still made banger games everytime, AoW3 was amazing as the last non-Paradox published game, a very trustworthy studio to release quality and quantity, the games always been packed and so have their DLC's, with a ton of free content in patches. No cut corners like games feel nowadays.
I felt Planetfall was OK. It has 3 DLC, but none of them were "neccessary" to play the game. They added more races, secret tech, some stuff like adventure sites, new campaigns. More or less in style of AoW 3, not Paradox "let's gut half of mechanics from the game and introduce them in DLC"-style. But Paradox helped a lot with marketing, especially since theirplayer bases are similiar, lot of Stellaris players were interested in Planetfall, etc. They organised these mini-promotions with youtubers too, I think.
@@leflyxdvdthey didn't "find" Triumph Studios to create AOW4, the whole franchise is Triumph's creation in the first place. Triumph is the only studio that could make it.
Maps can be larger by increasing player count or player distance. And yeah, I wouldn't it even call it naval combat since it is literally just a flat map with a bunch of boat-skins
I love huge maps and slow progression in these kinds of games, so my worries are the same, but from what i've seen by cranking up player count and player distance the maps get pretty big. Aaand if i'm wrong there are going to be tons of mods for that for sure.
We have 4 confirmed DLCs, as MoaRider said. That's more than they've done for previous games. As a player of those previous games I will say this: every one of them will be meaty and game changing on several levels. It's just how Triumph has done things in the past. There will be new cultures, tomes, units, (and because of those new units and spells), but also new structures, events, standalone units, races, whole new game systems, biome changes. And with each new DLC, Triumph spends time with bug fixes and balancing. This next year and a half is going to see the game change in major ways. And that's all vanilla, developer changes. The mod community is gonna go nuts as well.
I plared Age of Wonders Planetfall for 1211! It's ridiculous. The time just melts away as you play this game. You start at 10pm, then you look up and is 3am and you better got some sleep for work tomorrow.
Thank you for your detailed and honest review of this game. You delve into all areas that most newbies and experienced players will be wondering about. With your genuine comments and excitable tone, you create excitement and intrigue alike. I usually turn to your reviews before buying a strategy game for these reasons and that most certainly will continue post this one. Thank you.
AoW3 was a casual-type distraction i downloaded in between Total Wars, and I fell in love. It felt less stressful, less overwhelming (not managing 100s of cities), and just really fun. So, my reaction to the positive reviews is more relief - they've augmented the things that I liked the most about the last one.
The standards for casual and hardcore in 4x fandoms, I swear...some people can't even handle HoMM, with its relative simplicity. That said, I am not complaining at all. Smart games are good.
Hang on a minute. I demand spinning circles in my ground battles , come on Paradox get your act together and stick to what you are good at :) I may have been brainwashed by Stellaris but this looks right up my alley. Stellaris meets Warhammer is making me drool with need.
If a game is successful at launch it will generally get patched and updated. This will probable happen with this game as DLC are added and mods are included. I played Age of Wonders 1, 2 , 3 and Planetfall and enjoyed them all. This is one the few games I have pre-ordered hoping it will meet expectations.
As someone who does not play 4x games on pc. If this game runs even half as well on console as AOW planetfall i have 0 concerns about this. Paradox games always seem to be perfectly optimised for console and imo tend to have a more intuitive way of traversing menus etc. Cannot wait for this game
Going from AoW3 to Planetfall felt like a bit of a disappointment because while Planetfall's economy system was more polished, it just didn't have the same high degree of unit variety and strategic depth in combat as AoW3. I walked away from Planetfall thinking to myself "man if they make a game with Planetfall's economy system and AoW3's unit roster and customization options you'd have like...the perfect game. And they not only did that, but also EXPANDED that customization. God I'm so excited for this game
I will say Paradox does a great job getting the good strategy game youtubers to play, test, and advertise their games. Helps know there's quality when it's being tested and reviewed officially by trusted strategy gamers that know what we want.
Can you simulatenously fight in multiplayer? One of the hassles about these games is having to manage your resources and wait for friends to fight, and them waiting for you to finish your fights.
No unfortunately not. As it is now the other player cant even interact with anything else so he just has to wait until the fight is over and cant do anything. Even if you only autoresolve ive seen some issues and players got desynced, but the game did a good job at fixing and reloading that in a few seconds. I have seen 2 player multiplayer and these problems are ok for that, but 4 or more players would just take too much time. However, I feel like this game is more of a singleplayer game anwhere and not about minmaxing and more about roleplaying =)
this game looks amazing! so much fun trying a lot of different things, and i've heard modding support is coming as well! Even though it's published by paradox, and they usually expand their games a lot with DLC, i don't know anything about the devs, I hope they follow the same vein thanks for the review
I played this serie since I was 13 year old with the fist game and the second being my favorite. I am sad about the fact there is no storyline, but I am pomp for the sandbox experience and seeing my mage being used by the ai in game!
From what I can see on gameplay videos, the maps are extremely closed compared to 4x games in general, and more closed than even typical classic HoMM maps. Don't you find it uncomfortable and very noticeable when playing the game? When the map is full of impassable terrain and tight passages between them, you have a lot less freedom for exploring, traveling, building cities, waging wars, etc. It must be a huge difference from Humankind, for example.
There is no shame in admitting what your "fairly high-end system" is. Please tell us, we promise not to be upset. If you tell us what you're running AoW4 on, it would give us a point of reference on system performance (if our system is same, better or worse than yours).
I've already bought this, lets hope my laptop doesn't croak running it (I have a desktop PC, too but that is out of commission, probably broken GPU and the current ones are simply too expensive to simply go and buy one! Not to mention that both AMD and Nvidia are trying to screw you over more than usual! AMD still can't do raytracing despite the fact that the tech is standard now and not new and they are also "buy" (or forcing!) performance out of their cards by simply dumping current into them like there's no tomorrow (which generates a lot of excess heat, might also be a problem for your PSU if you didn't splurge on a good 850W or more PSU!). Nvidia on the other hand is getting rather stingy with VRAM and they are also building in worse memory-interfaces! So you'll have less and access times also go up...yeah, both companies suck and their pricing comes on top! Even with the inflation their pricing for the last few generations was no way justified and this generation is even worse!)
I feel like all the options are such tiny baby steps vs endless legends widely different faction to faction playstyles(even so when you make a custom faction with it). But I really dig how your race changes appearance with the choices u make
Lost all credibility when he failed to acknowledge how stupid the AI plays, moving groups of armies back and forth in the same few spots until something threatening nears the army. Also the fact that the enemy AI can PUMP out units without regard to economic stability. (Unless the AI just has unlimited resources.) Your puny 3 full army groups will get dwindled down by this boring AI mechanic and there is nothing you can do about it, as the AI pumps out more units in a shorter period of time than you can keep up with. Which seems to be the biggest issue with the game.
I will agree with you on the combat and AI especially. However, I have to disagree strongly on the city building/empire stuff. City development in AoW4 is as dull as a box of rocks. For those looking for the nuances of more involved 4x games, you aren't going to find that here. the buildings are incredibly generic, the provinces are generic, its just clicking to get the next thing. Realistically the game is about getting to the armies so you can go do the big tactical combats, and that part is a lot of fun. But make no mistake, this is no "empire building" game, its a tactical army fighting game with just the trappings of a 4x empire buildings behind it.
As someone who has absolutely zero grand strategy experience ive been having a blast with this game, the mechanics are intuitive, the tooltips mean I've barely had to open the glossary The different affinities gives me stromg MTG vibes, over all I'm absolutely a fan
I’ve been so disappointed with Civ 6. I know a lot of people like it, but I very much don’t. At all. This looks promising. Hopefully this can be a replacement.
Difficult and complex? Sad that its that target group asking these questions. AoW4 is as easy as those types of games can get. I'd really like to know if it is even less complex than part 3.
Hmm I find it kinda bland that there arent any huge differences between the base units of the races. generic melee rats are just as tough and have the same abilities as generic melee humans. Youd expect the humans the significantly tougher and the rats to be a lot faster or something.. Every faction I encounter just feels the same and the unique look of them feels like a very thin coat of paint. You obviously put enchantments optop, some of which do have some interesting changes.. But even then it is few and far between. "2 extra damage and 1 ressistance" isnt exciting.. its still just small number tweaks.
If you just auto complete all the battles (like I did because my wife was interested in the game but found the actual battles boring) and the game is rather boring. Even when I did handle the battles it didn't feel all that great. It has a great idea but goes really fast and kind of boring. Because you can research new spells in like 2 or 3 turns, build buildings in like 2 or 3 turns, and even throw out troops usually in under 5 turns it is kind of unimportant and all you do is quickly scan what bonuses you get and the story it's supposed to tell loses all meaning.
I'm just annoyed by the performance issues. My fps hovers around 30 and gets worse as the armies get stacked more. Anyone found a way to resolve this issue?
Runs great on Steam deck :) What makes this game so addictive that every ones game is different. And as you fail or get defeated your learn from your mistakes. This is not a game where you need to win to enjoy the ride. must play.....
I am no lifeing this title since release! I am in love! Reminds me a lot of a boardgame called MageKnight. One of the best games ive ever played. I highly suggest playing MageKnight if you enjoy this game.
My problem is I keep comparing it to heroes of might magic 6 and I'm a little confused on the troop and monster movement and how do you stack them or can you not stack them or they like want a piece or they stacked and if you can't stack them how do you do it I know you can only have six in an army so it's at 6:00 monsters or is a six types of monsters. And does the game allow you to convert your cities so all of your monsters are the same?
Is it anything like endless legend and humankind? I hate those 2 games, I love civilization and stellaris and xcom and divinity and even galactic civilization. Will I like this game or will I hate it like I do endless legend and humankind? That's the question
I like strategy games and this seemed up my lane but after buying the deluxe version and playing a couple hours I’m disappointed. The battles are lame and units are boring
Find it a bit odd people thinking the combat looks like total war. It's nothing like it. I would say it's more akin to something like heroes of might and magic.
hi im looking to buy this game but it all depens on how the multiplayer feels and plays, can someone tell me how much a multiplayer round lasts and if its fun.
Grew up playing AoW 1. was horrible at it but I was enchanted by the games style and fantasy. Then we got AoW2: Shadow Magic. I spent MANY afternoons in my childhood, sometimes even entire days playing AoW2. Then I found modding for AoW2 and played it through highschool. Then AoW3 came out, it felt like too much of a departure from what I loved, but I still spent probably 400 hours in it. Now THIS comes out, and it's EVERYTHING I could ever want in an AoW or 4x strategy RPG (its more than that but that's what I want) I just CANNOT wait to play this. And yeah, this games modding support will do it wonders for longevity. I'm very excited. This seems like Triumph Studio's true vision of what they wanted Age of Wonders to be. After the expansions and love and care patches/updates over time, I think this will be GOAT for me. Unless they make a 5th and beat this one too.
Can someone tell what the maximum amount of human players is? And how does the biggest map compare to the biggest map of civ 6? I literally can't find this information anywhere.
8. But also these are the wrong kinds of questions. AoW isn't really designed to play at that scale and trying to do synchronous 8 player multiplayer would be a mess unless you completely outlawed manual combat.
Planetfall was my first AoW experience. The game was a bit daunting, especially with all the types of units having x amount of possible attacks and abilities but overall I loved it.This looks like even more polished experience in a fantasy setting, so I am super excited to jump in today.
Its funny you know? AOW has been this for decades, all the way back to AOW1. The only really big change to the series has been the territory system where you annex areas one by one and the progression mechanics with the panethon. But suddenly the popularity of the series is taking off. "the combat is like xcom" "Its like civ if..." "It sort of reminds me of total war" no, its AOW like.
The 2P, and mainly performance. Fairly high-end system doesnt mean anything, give your spec and fps, at least in the description, or just dont speak it and explain why.
I wanna say for those worried about low end systems. There's a lot LOT of processing and all of the games when your playing a large map and a lot of units it will slow down. It's not Terrible, noticeable I'm sure given the graphics updates. but unless your running multiple i9's it'll happen, it's not a big deal
I've tried it on a Haswell i7 4770 and an RX 5700. Runs perfectly playable. It's not like it's an eSports FPS where you need 120hz and ms response times.
The one thing I don't like is the Imperium resource. Admin Points from EU4 is not a mechanic I wish to see show up in other games. I would have givne them tha feedback during development but Paradix bans people who critizise them on their boards so I stay away these days.
One thing, that so far, every review skipps, for some odd reason, is: HOW does this compare to AoW3? No one was mentioned, that this uses regions, as Planetfall, which is a huge difference and something that might put some people off like me. Is there a scenarion choice, or are all maps generated? Because so far, generated maps have been looking super weird and ugly, and that also seems to apply here, from what I have been seeing. And in the same vein: is there a scenario editor? Also: as being published by Paradox, everyone should remember Imperator Rome. I don't count on them adding for fixing stuff if this doesn't sell enough. Most games published by them have been a bug-fest, not speaking of new DLC or patches causing more issues.
While I'm sad at the loss of Racial units (Tigran Sphinx being one of my personal favorites), I'm excited to see the dlc's, mods, and other things taht will sprout for this excellent framework of a game. I've heard some complaints about optimization and bugs but I haven't personally experienced them myself.
Planetfall had a lot going for it - just was missing some of the narrative work to pull it all together (and perhaps some more varied planetary biomes) - I think Planetfall II will be interesting. Also would be interesting to compare/contrast this with Spellforce: Conquest of Eo that seems to be in a similar bucket.
As much as I prefer the fantasy side, Planetfall was a gem. If they do a PF2 alike AoW4 but improved further and features fitting the sci-fi side, I think that would be so good. A dev did mention the Tome system came from an idea they had with PF during development but didn't get through, how instead of picking secret techs you found them as you explored, just a funny tidbit.
@@prinstyrio0 I think it could have been aided greatly with some cutscenes to get a better feel for the story it was trying to tell. Also would have helped to have a "choose a faction and take them all the way back to recreating empire" instead of jumping so that I got a bit lost on who was actually going to reconstitute things.
The current game feels like Age of Wonders 3.1 rather than AOW4. While it’s not a terrible game, it is definitely overhyped in its current state. It has the potential to be a great game, however like every paradox game now that will take time and it’s clear that the support for this game will hopefully be 2 3 years.
I have many issues with the game. However it is a paradox game so I'm sure that most of the things will improve over time. It is even the best vanilla version of a paradox game I've played so far. And I've played over a thousand hours on EUIV and Stellaris and more than 100 hours on several of their other games. So I'm pretty sure that I will enjoy the game for many years to come.
Could somebody explain to me what is so cool about those bigger hands like in Warcraft ? And with chibi-style head proportions? I'm pretty curious what is the thinking behind changing the design to this.
This video really helped sell the game for me. It’ll be my first Age of Wonders game, and I’m excited to play it after work today on my ps5 (my computer would probably struggle with this game)
It's like you feel guilt for everyone who buy the game after your endorsement and then will feel dissapointment, even thought for most it's just a wrong genre and not the game design fault.
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This game is gonna be even more insane, when the modding tools come out.
The possibilities are mind blowing
@@JumboPixel Nothing is true, everything is permitted
Very true, looking at so much of the gameplay I've seen so far my immediate reaction has been "This already looks great, AND this platform will be so fun for the community to iterate on!"
Yeah. I want to have a mod for dwarven flesh eating ratogers with angel wings on bats.
As exciting as that is conceptually, it's worth noting that neither AoW 3 or Planetfall have had much genuine in the way of modding. They've been extremely limited in terms of the inclusion of new models/assets, which keeps mods restricted primarily to numerical tweaks and adjustments.
I am definitely excited for this game. looks fun, I'm very excited for all the levels of customization. These types of games (especially from Paradox) are very much about the DLC. Here's a basic game. now lets make it an awesome game with cool add ons. This looks awesome from the start, and your excitement (comes through in your voice) just confirms that for me. I'll find out on the 2nd.
I’ve got my fingers crossed for a smooth launch day 🤞 🤞
I was gonna this is the first game in this genre thats imo has come out fully loaded in years. Atleast compared to civ 6 and humankind. I started following it a couple of days ago and there's so much right out the gate. Jumbo and Potato have definitely sold me based on the content alone. Can't wait until tomorrow 😂
oh god thats what im afraid of, do people really now look at Stellaris and think "gee i wish every game had that much dlc" ? This was a big worry with aow3 when paradox became publishing and the game series has slowly evolved into a paradox game more and more
Thanx for mentioning it's paradox. My hoi4 has become unplayable without the latest dlc's so not falling for that trap again.
@@jeanemare4116 paradox published not developed. AoW planet fall didn't have the same issues as other paradox games
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When talking about manual combat, you should show manual combat footage instead of the character creator.
I can’t wait for this game. Also while I agree the combat mechanics kinda remind me of Total War (Warhammer 3 specifically with the heroes and magic) I think it more reminds me of something like Heroes of Might and Magic. Great video!
Yeah totally, Heroes of Might and Magic is another really common thread. Not just in combat, but in the way you explore the map for goodies too.
Even stuff like having multiple heroes and the magic system reminds me a lot of it. This game feels like a dream come true and I absolutely cannot wait to spend days playing it. Also can’t wait for the mods and dlc if this game becomes really popular 😄
This is one of those games that I feel like could never have too many races/realm traits/options/hero cosmetics. At least for me
@@JumboPixel it's not like total war at all. Total war is rts with Pause while this is turn based
@@maegnificantyeah I don't know why people say its like total war its nothing like it lol its basically just fantasy civ
@maegnificant the one thing that makes me question to buy this or not, total warhammer and stellaris have nearly ruined me for their smooth rts gameplay
Age of Wonders 3 is one my all time favourite games and 4 is looking to continue its legacy
Pre-ordered this, first Age of Wonders game ever. I’m ready for a slow deep dive enjoying the lore and stories, immersion and action. Can’t wait, especially after your review, thanks!
Isn’t this published by Paradox? They’ve been killing it recently, despite some internal drama.
published yeah, They mainly focused on these 4x, strategy games and are pretty good at finding decent studio's to develop them.
Paradox did do a good job picking up Triumph and I think Triumph got a lot to benefit having Paradox's help even if they still seem to operate mostly on their own. The studio still made banger games everytime, AoW3 was amazing as the last non-Paradox published game, a very trustworthy studio to release quality and quantity, the games always been packed and so have their DLC's, with a ton of free content in patches. No cut corners like games feel nowadays.
I felt Planetfall was OK. It has 3 DLC, but none of them were "neccessary" to play the game. They added more races, secret tech, some stuff like adventure sites, new campaigns. More or less in style of AoW 3, not Paradox "let's gut half of mechanics from the game and introduce them in DLC"-style. But Paradox helped a lot with marketing, especially since theirplayer bases are similiar, lot of Stellaris players were interested in Planetfall, etc. They organised these mini-promotions with youtubers too, I think.
That’s right. Triumph developed and Paradox published. Seems like a good fit to me as an outsider.
@@leflyxdvdthey didn't "find" Triumph Studios to create AOW4, the whole franchise is Triumph's creation in the first place. Triumph is the only studio that could make it.
I want so many DLCs for this game. My gripes are small maps and terrible naval combat
Maps can be larger by increasing player count or player distance. And yeah, I wouldn't it even call it naval combat since it is literally just a flat map with a bunch of boat-skins
I love huge maps and slow progression in these kinds of games, so my worries are the same, but from what i've seen by cranking up player count and player distance the maps get pretty big. Aaand if i'm wrong there are going to be tons of mods for that for sure.
It’s a Paradox game, so likely you will get your wish
Four confirmed from the get go. Not sure if they'll do more than that. Triumph's other games aren't really known for having a lot of DLCs.
We have 4 confirmed DLCs, as MoaRider said. That's more than they've done for previous games. As a player of those previous games I will say this: every one of them will be meaty and game changing on several levels. It's just how Triumph has done things in the past. There will be new cultures, tomes, units, (and because of those new units and spells), but also new structures, events, standalone units, races, whole new game systems, biome changes. And with each new DLC, Triumph spends time with bug fixes and balancing. This next year and a half is going to see the game change in major ways. And that's all vanilla, developer changes. The mod community is gonna go nuts as well.
This is why i cant wait to play it - it reminds me mix of heroes franchise (might and magic heroes 3 etc) and civilisation ... very good concept!
I plared Age of Wonders Planetfall for 1211! It's ridiculous. The time just melts away as you play this game. You start at 10pm, then you look up and is 3am and you better got some sleep for work tomorrow.
I love AOW3, can't wait for this one
"and then to problems" *avoids talking about the problems and rambles about critic scores*
Thank you for your detailed and honest review of this game. You delve into all areas that most newbies and experienced players will be wondering about. With your genuine comments and excitable tone, you create excitement and intrigue alike.
I usually turn to your reviews before buying a strategy game for these reasons and that most certainly will continue post this one. Thank you.
its Heroes of Might and Magic, mixed with Civ 6 AND you can make your own factions
Just only 6 unit is a big No for me.
12+ would atleast make it intresting.
AoW3 was a casual-type distraction i downloaded in between Total Wars, and I fell in love. It felt less stressful, less overwhelming (not managing 100s of cities), and just really fun. So, my reaction to the positive reviews is more relief - they've augmented the things that I liked the most about the last one.
The standards for casual and hardcore in 4x fandoms, I swear...some people can't even handle HoMM, with its relative simplicity. That said, I am not complaining at all. Smart games are good.
Hang on a minute. I demand spinning circles in my ground battles , come on Paradox get your act together and stick to what you are good at :)
I may have been brainwashed by Stellaris but this looks right up my alley. Stellaris meets Warhammer is making me drool with need.
If a game is successful at launch it will generally get patched and updated. This will probable happen with this game as DLC are added and mods are included. I played Age of Wonders 1, 2 , 3 and Planetfall and enjoyed them all. This is one the few games I have pre-ordered hoping it will meet expectations.
As someone who does not play 4x games on pc. If this game runs even half as well on console as AOW planetfall i have 0 concerns about this.
Paradox games always seem to be perfectly optimised for console and imo tend to have a more intuitive way of traversing menus etc. Cannot wait for this game
but is safe? is it hidden?
Going from AoW3 to Planetfall felt like a bit of a disappointment because while Planetfall's economy system was more polished, it just didn't have the same high degree of unit variety and strategic depth in combat as AoW3. I walked away from Planetfall thinking to myself "man if they make a game with Planetfall's economy system and AoW3's unit roster and customization options you'd have like...the perfect game.
And they not only did that, but also EXPANDED that customization. God I'm so excited for this game
I will say Paradox does a great job getting the good strategy game youtubers to play, test, and advertise their games. Helps know there's quality when it's being tested and reviewed officially by trusted strategy gamers that know what we want.
Can you simulatenously fight in multiplayer? One of the hassles about these games is having to manage your resources and wait for friends to fight, and them waiting for you to finish your fights.
No unfortunately not. As it is now the other player cant even interact with anything else so he just has to wait until the fight is over and cant do anything.
Even if you only autoresolve ive seen some issues and players got desynced, but the game did a good job at fixing and reloading that in a few seconds.
I have seen 2 player multiplayer and these problems are ok for that, but 4 or more players would just take too much time.
However, I feel like this game is more of a singleplayer game anwhere and not about minmaxing and more about roleplaying =)
@@bene5428 Do the other players spectate the fights?
@@shinigummie I saw the option: Spectate if fight is seen on map when setting up the game so I guess you have some options
@@bene5428 Cool thanks
this game looks amazing! so much fun trying a lot of different things, and i've heard modding support is coming as well!
Even though it's published by paradox, and they usually expand their games a lot with DLC, i don't know anything about the devs, I hope they follow the same vein
thanks for the review
i wonder, how different it will be from aow2. it seems like aow2 with planetfall basesystem, which i like, and changing races.
I played this serie since I was 13 year old with the fist game and the second being my favorite. I am sad about the fact there is no storyline, but I am pomp for the sandbox experience and seeing my mage being used by the ai in game!
Really looking forward to this one!
From what I can see on gameplay videos, the maps are extremely closed compared to 4x games in general, and more closed than even typical classic HoMM maps.
Don't you find it uncomfortable and very noticeable when playing the game?
When the map is full of impassable terrain and tight passages between them, you have a lot less freedom for exploring, traveling, building cities, waging wars, etc.
It must be a huge difference from Humankind, for example.
There is no shame in admitting what your "fairly high-end system" is. Please tell us, we promise not to be upset. If you tell us what you're running AoW4 on, it would give us a point of reference on system performance (if our system is same, better or worse than yours).
they have ruined a lot of things from me from AOW3..Its all blend and similar ..Heroes upgrade its not satisfying
I've already bought this, lets hope my laptop doesn't croak running it (I have a desktop PC, too but that is out of commission, probably broken GPU and the current ones are simply too expensive to simply go and buy one! Not to mention that both AMD and Nvidia are trying to screw you over more than usual! AMD still can't do raytracing despite the fact that the tech is standard now and not new and they are also "buy" (or forcing!) performance out of their cards by simply dumping current into them like there's no tomorrow (which generates a lot of excess heat, might also be a problem for your PSU if you didn't splurge on a good 850W or more PSU!). Nvidia on the other hand is getting rather stingy with VRAM and they are also building in worse memory-interfaces! So you'll have less and access times also go up...yeah, both companies suck and their pricing comes on top! Even with the inflation their pricing for the last few generations was no way justified and this generation is even worse!)
I feel like all the options are such tiny baby steps vs endless legends widely different faction to faction playstyles(even so when you make a custom faction with it). But I really dig how your race changes appearance with the choices u make
Lost all credibility when he failed to acknowledge how stupid the AI plays, moving groups of armies back and forth in the same few spots until something threatening nears the army. Also the fact that the enemy AI can PUMP out units without regard to economic stability. (Unless the AI just has unlimited resources.) Your puny 3 full army groups will get dwindled down by this boring AI mechanic and there is nothing you can do about it, as the AI pumps out more units in a shorter period of time than you can keep up with. Which seems to be the biggest issue with the game.
I will agree with you on the combat and AI especially. However, I have to disagree strongly on the city building/empire stuff. City development in AoW4 is as dull as a box of rocks. For those looking for the nuances of more involved 4x games, you aren't going to find that here. the buildings are incredibly generic, the provinces are generic, its just clicking to get the next thing.
Realistically the game is about getting to the armies so you can go do the big tactical combats, and that part is a lot of fun. But make no mistake, this is no "empire building" game, its a tactical army fighting game with just the trappings of a 4x empire buildings behind it.
As someone who has absolutely zero grand strategy experience ive been having a blast with this game, the mechanics are intuitive, the tooltips mean I've barely had to open the glossary
The different affinities gives me stromg MTG vibes, over all I'm absolutely a fan
I’ve been so disappointed with Civ 6. I know a lot of people like it, but I very much don’t. At all. This looks promising. Hopefully this can be a replacement.
Difficult and complex? Sad that its that target group asking these questions. AoW4 is as easy as those types of games can get. I'd really like to know if it is even less complex than part 3.
Age of Wonders has always been a great game that has released better and better versions of itself. This looks great.
Hmm I find it kinda bland that there arent any huge differences between the base units of the races. generic melee rats are just as tough and have the same abilities as generic melee humans. Youd expect the humans the significantly tougher and the rats to be a lot faster or something.. Every faction I encounter just feels the same and the unique look of them feels like a very thin coat of paint.
You obviously put enchantments optop, some of which do have some interesting changes.. But even then it is few and far between. "2 extra damage and 1 ressistance" isnt exciting.. its still just small number tweaks.
If you just auto complete all the battles (like I did because my wife was interested in the game but found the actual battles boring) and the game is rather boring. Even when I did handle the battles it didn't feel all that great. It has a great idea but goes really fast and kind of boring. Because you can research new spells in like 2 or 3 turns, build buildings in like 2 or 3 turns, and even throw out troops usually in under 5 turns it is kind of unimportant and all you do is quickly scan what bonuses you get and the story it's supposed to tell loses all meaning.
I'll wait another year or so until some mad mods are out for it.
Your introduction sounds as if you're describing the game to a baby.
Never hurts to quickly start with the basics
@@JumboPixel depends on your audience I guess.
For someone who played all the games when they came out it sounds strange.
I'm just annoyed by the performance issues. My fps hovers around 30 and gets worse as the armies get stacked more. Anyone found a way to resolve this issue?
Runs great on Steam deck :) What makes this game so addictive that every ones game is different. And as you fail or get defeated your learn from your mistakes.
This is not a game where you need to win to enjoy the ride. must play.....
I am no lifeing this title since release! I am in love! Reminds me a lot of a boardgame called MageKnight. One of the best games ive ever played. I highly suggest playing MageKnight if you enjoy this game.
Looks weird, obscure, messy looking map which reminds me of Heroes 3 but without its beauty, finesse and lore.
The highlights on the map look absolutely awful on its already haphazard patchy landscape. One patch here, another patch there. Complete eyesore.
My problem is I keep comparing it to heroes of might magic 6 and I'm a little confused on the troop and monster movement and how do you stack them or can you not stack them or they like want a piece or they stacked and if you can't stack them how do you do it I know you can only have six in an army so it's at 6:00 monsters or is a six types of monsters. And does the game allow you to convert your cities so all of your monsters are the same?
Potential of this game is so huge. And remind me back to theday i play m&m heroes 3. Thank you so much to create wonderful game.
Is it anything like endless legend and humankind? I hate those 2 games, I love civilization and stellaris and xcom and divinity and even galactic civilization. Will I like this game or will I hate it like I do endless legend and humankind? That's the question
I love the "if your a total dumb dumb..." line.
I have never micromanaged a battle, id like to finish a map while im still young
Lol. Not wrong, if you manually managed every battle the game would be long
I like strategy games and this seemed up my lane but after buying the deluxe version and playing a couple hours I’m disappointed. The battles are lame and units are boring
Yeah imma buy this instead of Redfall
Looking at those reviews, I don’t blame ya
you are talking about "your system" but what are your specs? im new to your channel and dont know if you specified it already
2:00 More like the Heroes of might and magic series. Total war is real time strategy in it's combat, AoW was always turn based.
Find it a bit odd people thinking the combat looks like total war. It's nothing like it. I would say it's more akin to something like heroes of might and magic.
Your performance & problems section has failed to sway me. On another note my wallet now hates you. Cheers!
I enjoyed Age of wonders 2 and shadow magic. Still waiting for its continual.
hi im looking to buy this game but it all depens on how the multiplayer feels and plays, can someone tell me how much a multiplayer round lasts and if its fun.
You review well, but stop asking for people to sub and check out your other videos so much, it gets anoying.
Hoping they fix a lot of the bugs with the ps5 version. It doesn’t run great
l would like turn based strategy leave hex, one queue production by city,
Grew up playing AoW 1. was horrible at it but I was enchanted by the games style and fantasy.
Then we got AoW2: Shadow Magic. I spent MANY afternoons in my childhood, sometimes even entire days playing AoW2. Then I found modding for AoW2 and played it through highschool.
Then AoW3 came out, it felt like too much of a departure from what I loved, but I still spent probably 400 hours in it.
Now THIS comes out, and it's EVERYTHING I could ever want in an AoW or 4x strategy RPG (its more than that but that's what I want) I just CANNOT wait to play this.
And yeah, this games modding support will do it wonders for longevity. I'm very excited. This seems like Triumph Studio's true vision of what they wanted Age of Wonders to be. After the expansions and love and care patches/updates over time, I think this will be GOAT for me. Unless they make a 5th and beat this one too.
Do you still think it’s good 2 months later?
@@theundergrad5994 Not as good as i was expecting but I still love it. And the modding community is going ham.
2:40 I think you forgot to edit the fighting here
Sad :(
Can someone tell what the maximum amount of human players is? And how does the biggest map compare to the biggest map of civ 6? I literally can't find this information anywhere.
8. But also these are the wrong kinds of questions. AoW isn't really designed to play at that scale and trying to do synchronous 8 player multiplayer would be a mess unless you completely outlawed manual combat.
Lol was the description of this video created by ChatGPT?
Oh, this is your HONEST impression. I was hoping for your DISHONEST impression of AGE OF WONDERS 4
What are they taking about? Is it not same as it always been in combat, similar to master of magic
it just a modded version age of wonder planetfall basically the same game
Game looks cool i feel like i need a demo tho to give it a go. Really miss the old days when that was normal
I'm wondering if there's any controllable dragon units in this game?
There are, and they’re awesome. I had some tier 5 dragon units one game and they carried me hard.
@@JumboPixel Are they Wyverns?
Planetfall was my first AoW experience. The game was a bit daunting, especially with all the types of units having x amount of possible attacks and abilities but overall I loved it.This looks like even more polished experience in a fantasy setting, so I am super excited to jump in today.
It's worse than planetfall
Congrats on making vids for the official channel
I love the series and AoW 4 feels like downgrade.. atleast for now.
How is PVP? Want to play with friends but heard the combat was the weakest part
you have to wait and do nothing when other player have battle in MP ... (same as in the third)
Its funny you know? AOW has been this for decades, all the way back to AOW1. The only really big change to the series has been the territory system where you annex areas one by one and the progression mechanics with the panethon. But suddenly the popularity of the series is taking off. "the combat is like xcom" "Its like civ if..." "It sort of reminds me of total war" no, its AOW like.
It plays like Spellforce Conquest of EO
The 2P, and mainly performance.
Fairly high-end system doesnt mean anything, give your spec and fps, at least in the description, or just dont speak it and explain why.
You might want to take another look, my PC specs *are* in the description.
I wanna say for those worried about low end systems. There's a lot LOT of processing and all of the games when your playing a large map and a lot of units it will slow down. It's not Terrible, noticeable I'm sure given the graphics updates. but unless your running multiple i9's it'll happen, it's not a big deal
I've tried it on a Haswell i7 4770 and an RX 5700. Runs perfectly playable. It's not like it's an eSports FPS where you need 120hz and ms response times.
Yeah I agree you don't need super fast frame rates I play on a gaming laptop with a 5900hx rhzen and a 3070 nvidia graphics card, it does a good job
Been following u since humankind..nice video
its basically a modern heroes of might and magic
6:40 you had the option for allied victories back in AoW3, so I don't see how that's refreshing?
I play a lot of strategy games, not just Age of Wonders 3/4. It’s refreshing in that wider context.
This is a game I am really looking forward to playing when it comes out. I loved the other games in the series.
The one thing I don't like is the Imperium resource. Admin Points from EU4 is not a mechanic I wish to see show up in other games. I would have givne them tha feedback during development but Paradix bans people who critizise them on their boards so I stay away these days.
One thing, that so far, every review skipps, for some odd reason, is: HOW does this compare to AoW3? No one was mentioned, that this uses regions, as Planetfall, which is a huge difference and something that might put some people off like me. Is there a scenarion choice, or are all maps generated? Because so far, generated maps have been looking super weird and ugly, and that also seems to apply here, from what I have been seeing. And in the same vein: is there a scenario editor?
Also: as being published by Paradox, everyone should remember Imperator Rome. I don't count on them adding for fixing stuff if this doesn't sell enough. Most games published by them have been a bug-fest, not speaking of new DLC or patches causing more issues.
no dragonians
no lizardmen
Wack game 0/10
Great review. Gonna pick this one up!
While I'm sad at the loss of Racial units (Tigran Sphinx being one of my personal favorites), I'm excited to see the dlc's, mods, and other things taht will sprout for this excellent framework of a game. I've heard some complaints about optimization and bugs but I haven't personally experienced them myself.
Planetfall had a lot going for it - just was missing some of the narrative work to pull it all together (and perhaps some more varied planetary biomes) - I think Planetfall II will be interesting. Also would be interesting to compare/contrast this with Spellforce: Conquest of Eo that seems to be in a similar bucket.
As much as I prefer the fantasy side, Planetfall was a gem. If they do a PF2 alike AoW4 but improved further and features fitting the sci-fi side, I think that would be so good.
A dev did mention the Tome system came from an idea they had with PF during development but didn't get through, how instead of picking secret techs you found them as you explored, just a funny tidbit.
@@prinstyrio0 I think it could have been aided greatly with some cutscenes to get a better feel for the story it was trying to tell. Also would have helped to have a "choose a faction and take them all the way back to recreating empire" instead of jumping so that I got a bit lost on who was actually going to reconstitute things.
The current game feels like Age of Wonders 3.1 rather than AOW4. While it’s not a terrible game, it is definitely overhyped in its current state. It has the potential to be a great game, however like every paradox game now that will take time and it’s clear that the support for this game will hopefully be 2 3 years.
are there still gunpowder units in AOW 4? I dont find an answer for that... anywhere
Not to my knowledge
I have many issues with the game. However it is a paradox game so I'm sure that most of the things will improve over time. It is even the best vanilla version of a paradox game I've played so far. And I've played over a thousand hours on EUIV and Stellaris and more than 100 hours on several of their other games. So I'm pretty sure that I will enjoy the game for many years to come.
Could somebody explain to me what is so cool about those bigger hands like in Warcraft ? And with chibi-style head proportions? I'm pretty curious what is the thinking behind changing the design to this.
HEY EVERYONE, look up Brigandine, a simpler but very similar japanese version of this game especially combatwise...I want more people to play it!
This video really helped sell the game for me. It’ll be my first Age of Wonders game, and I’m excited to play it after work today on my ps5 (my computer would probably struggle with this game)
Ah man. I just look at the Expansion Pass DLC titles. And none of them sound like they would include any Kirko like Insect race to play as. Bummer.
It's like you feel guilt for everyone who buy the game after your endorsement and then will feel dissapointment, even thought for most it's just a wrong genre and not the game design fault.
Great video ! Love how involved you are in this, it seems it's one of the things I was lacking in other YT vids, just realized it :o