A Black 5 hauling 12 up Shap and not an oilcan in sight? I'm not surprised she was working hard, but she still seemed well in control. Wonderful, do-anything locos!
Meanwhile the normal fare paying punters, who’ve paid a lot of money to get from A-B in a fairly quick time, are sat behind or are crawling at 20mph when they should be doing 110! If kettle neds want to play trains, they should go & do it on a preserved line.
@@nedseagoon5101 Actually I think the speed limit up Shap is 100 and trains usually only manage 90 at the summit. The steam record up Shap is about 60 average by the Duke of Gloucester. That aside, they do time the steam trains to avoid holding up regular traffic; I don't guarantee they are 100% successful, but the train may well have been put in the loop at the top to let regular traffic through.
@@titup2 Trust me, they are rarely successful. I’ve been delayed & held many times due to specials. Either the train crawling or idiots trespassing. They’re not fit to run on the 21st century railway.
If I remember correctly none of the tours on this video delayed an Mainline train traffic and Network Rail are very happy to take the money from Steam to be able to access the Mainline 😂
Another great video - nothing quite like the sight, sound & smell of a hard working steam locomotive, doing what they were designed & built for and handled by people who know how to get the best out of them. Thanks.
Reminds me of my childhood ( 1950s) Two C17s ( 4-8-0) 3'6" gauge QGR, double heading a long ( 30 car) Bogie Cattle Train, on the Toowong-- Auchenflower Up Grade ( about 2 km) at 10PM ( night) sparks from chimneys, glow from cabs! And the sound ( about 500 meters from front porch, across open parkland). AND Garrats as well ( also on cattle trains)
Thanks for including the K4, it offered such performance value with respect to its size. I understand the owner's wishes but it is a shame that it is no longer available to be experienced in use.
@@TheStephengthompson It is unfortunate that the “owner” of the A4 has failed to realise that he is actually just the locomotive’s custodian. That engine will outlive him by a massive stretch, and in reality should be made available for future generations to enjoy. Sometimes selfishness gets the better of us…
@@struck2soon The “owner” has OWNED it, his property, since 1966 and has used his own money to keep it running, that is not being selfish. He owes the railway preservation movement absolutely nothing. If he chooses now to go and spend a few minutes of an evening to enjoy his own property why should you deny him that? And I know for a fact that John Cameron does just that, he has a chair in the shed where the locos are and he spends time in there looking at them and being with them. Tell me something struck2soon, have you expressed the same comments to the NRM for not putting Mallard, Green Arrow, Evening Star, Duchess of Hamilton back out for others to enjoy? If so what was their reply? As a retired member of the 60009 support crew for 27 years, I got to know John Cameron fairly well and selfishness is not something I would ever associate with him. Me and my support coach colleagues miss the loco considerably more than those, possibly like yourself, who liked to go and see it go by for a fleeting moment or watch it on TH-cam. But we respect John’s decision and accepted it and have not moaned that he should’ve given it away to a group to restore. Why should he? His loco his choice, he is the OWNER.
Woah amazing video, I’ve always been a fan of American locomotives but i gotta admit these engines are beautiful! Love to hear a good ol’ steamer working hard on the rails
I lived in Carlisle for 9 years and used to photograph all the steam excursions coming into Carlisle station. I also regularly travelled on the Settle to Carlisle line. Now I live in Ausralia but watching this video takes me to a happy place :-). Thank you Stephen for a beautiful compilation of superb videos - I love your composition and use of static shots BTW.
I always thought it was interesting how the steam locomotives wiggle back and forth almost like they're jogging. I'm guessing a mix of massive torque and frame flex or something.
Well, I´ve never been to England... and, only saw the first Harry Potter movie long ago... however, this opening shot did remind of the Hogwart's train. Seems like Harry would be better off taking the bus instead of this train if he didn't want to report in before the first semester of school was over. Slow, but solid looking. Those coach carriages appear to be built strong enough to accept graduate-level magic. Muy divertido video... very fun video. Gracias. RT sends... envía... Puebla, México...
Only slow because these are shot on the steepest inclines in Britain. Most of these locos can cruise at well over 100mph. Modern, electric trains may do better on steep stretches but they cost hundreds of times more to build and operate. Electrification cost billions and there is growing evidence that spending even short periods of time in an electric field of 25,000kw has negative health effects.
Steve, A great compilation as always and what's common on all the clips, except one, is there is no diesel on the back and this was not pushing. Regards, John
Thanks John, I did try to put shots in without a diesel but like you the one that does the diesel wasn’t helping and to be honest as it was a test run it probably shouldn’t either .
The sharp continuous bark of an engine with a load has almost been lost the the UK main lines in the last few years. Diesels like to give a little push when attached at the back
Now that's just as preserved steam should be seen !!Working hard and unassisted . So Its a shame that there was a diesel in the presentation which for me spoiled that one clip ..
Thanks John , totally agree with you and the one clip that has a diesel on the rear was a loaded test run so they always take one just in case anything goes wrong but they don’t assist unless there’s a problem. Regards Steve
@@rmgilyard Then you will never get the very best out of the steam loco or the engine crew ! Its very easy to " Toot For A Shove" if you need an easy run or havent managed the fire correctly and at the other extreme having to dragg 100 plus dead tons , isn't going to help much , so inevitably the diesel must dilute the steam performance and of course ruin the picture ..
Thanks for the comment Peter . Network rail ultimately decide what the tour operators can have behind a loco so not the tour operators fault but double heading would be the answer but then it’s down to logistics and cost I’d say 🤔
Hard work doesn't mean a locomotive is overloaded, it simply means that pulling a train up a long sustained gradient is by definition hardwork - especially if signal checks mean a standing start, or bad weather means a greasy railhead. Given the right combination of factors even diesels will slip and come to a standstill on quite short stretches of moderately inclined track. All of these locomotives were working well within their design capacity. There are predetermined maximum loads for each power class of locomotive over each route. The fact that they are going slowly towards the summit or to avoid slip in bad weather is factored in to the timetabling of the train.
A Black 5 hauling 12 up Shap and not an oilcan in sight? I'm not surprised she was working hard, but she still seemed well in control. Wonderful, do-anything locos!
Meanwhile the normal fare paying punters, who’ve paid a lot of money to get from A-B in a fairly quick time, are sat behind or are crawling at 20mph when they should be doing 110!
If kettle neds want to play trains, they should go & do it on a preserved line.
@@nedseagoon5101 Actually I think the speed limit up Shap is 100 and trains usually only manage 90 at the summit. The steam record up Shap is about 60 average by the Duke of Gloucester. That aside, they do time the steam trains to avoid holding up regular traffic; I don't guarantee they are 100% successful, but the train may well have been put in the loop at the top to let regular traffic through.
@@titup2 Trust me, they are rarely successful. I’ve been delayed & held many times due to specials. Either the train crawling or idiots trespassing. They’re not fit to run on the 21st century railway.
If I remember correctly none of the tours on this video delayed an Mainline train traffic and Network Rail are very happy to take the money from Steam to be able to access the Mainline 😂
@@nedseagoon5101 Then buy a car.
Nice to see a young woman on the footplate. Great Compilation as always. Thanks for posting.
Thanks Mark , yes indeed as the young lady is Joanne Crompton who fires on the East Lancs railway 👍
Will always love the sight, sounds and smell of the old loco's. Great piece of engineering and takes a great team of people to keep and operate them.
Thanks Ken , pleased you enjoyed the video 👍
Another great video - nothing quite like the sight, sound & smell of a hard working steam locomotive, doing what they were designed & built for and handled by people who know how to get the best out of them. Thanks.
Thanks for the kind comment and I totally agree with you 👍
they may make a lot of noise but you could set your clocks by them ,to half a minute now adays you you got a job to set the day
1:35
That second clip is a winner! Terrific.
Thanks Alan, I did think at the time wow 👍
Reminds me of my childhood ( 1950s) Two C17s ( 4-8-0) 3'6" gauge QGR, double heading a long ( 30 car) Bogie Cattle Train, on the Toowong-- Auchenflower Up Grade ( about 2 km) at 10PM ( night) sparks from chimneys, glow from cabs! And the sound ( about 500 meters from front porch, across open parkland). AND Garrats as well ( also on cattle trains)
Thanks Astrid, pleased it brought back memories for you 👍
Oh how the Greens must be jumping with rage! The Ks were remarkable engines, clearly a great design.
Thanks for the kind comment as it’s much appreciated 👍
Wonderful collection. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Robert, glad you enjoyed the video 👍
A fabulous collection of steam engines pulling hard. Wow
Cheers Pete , pleased you enjoyed it 👍
See Detroit not the only one the converts fule to sound 👍👍
Watching your video brought back so many memories of my childhood. I could almost smell the smoke as these mechanical marvels passed by.
Thanks Chris , pleased you enjoyed the video 👍Regards Steve
Nice to see most without a tin can pushing at the back… many thanks for your efforts.
Thanks Russ , yes indeed and the only shot with a diesel was the test run which nearly always has a back up 👍
There is no greater sound then that of a steam locomotive .Great video!
Thanks Steve , very true 👍
Fantastic compilation Steve, your best yet. The Marquess was sublime. Thank you and much appreciated.
Thanks Christopher, certainly miss seeing the Marquess as it was a brilliant engine 👍
Thanks for including the K4, it offered such performance value with respect to its size. I understand the owner's wishes but it is a shame that it is no longer available to be experienced in use.
Thanks for the kind comment and I must admit the K4 will be missed ☹️
@@TheStephengthompson It is unfortunate that the “owner” of the A4 has failed to realise that he is actually just the locomotive’s custodian. That engine will outlive him by a massive stretch, and in reality should be made available for future generations to enjoy. Sometimes selfishness gets the better of us…
Although it was quite funny to watch her waggle her cab on the way up that incline.
@@struck2soon The “owner” has OWNED it, his property, since 1966 and has used his own money to keep it running, that is not being selfish. He owes the railway preservation movement absolutely nothing. If he chooses now to go and spend a few minutes of an evening to enjoy his own property why should you deny him that? And I know for a fact that John Cameron does just that, he has a chair in the shed where the locos are and he spends time in there looking at them and being with them.
Tell me something struck2soon, have you expressed the same comments to the NRM for not putting Mallard, Green Arrow, Evening Star, Duchess of Hamilton back out for others to enjoy? If so what was their reply?
As a retired member of the 60009 support crew for 27 years, I got to know John Cameron fairly well and selfishness is not something I would ever associate with him. Me and my support coach colleagues miss the loco considerably more than those, possibly like yourself, who liked to go and see it go by for a fleeting moment or watch it on TH-cam. But we respect John’s decision and accepted it and have not moaned that he should’ve given it away to a group to restore. Why should he? His loco his choice, he is the OWNER.
@@juleshathaway3894 all I will say is: you are entitled to your opinion, and I am to mine.
Didn't realise how powerful the K4 was! 12 coaches, uphill, unaided? Pretty good for a mogul in my eyes
Cheers Luke , did enjoy seeing the K4 back when she ran over the S&C 👍
She was built to pull hard for the Western Highland lines. 3 cylinders.
All because she had little wheels and a great steaming boiler!
A rivetting watch Steve. How lucky are we to have such wonderful locos and excellent crews with lumps and bumps for them to play on? Take care - Chris
Thanks Chris, totally agree as we are so lucky especially now with the climate brigade out in force .
I've said it many a time steam is king and will rule the rails for ever.
Thanks Timothy 👍
Woah amazing video, I’ve always been a fan of American locomotives but i gotta admit these engines are beautiful!
Love to hear a good ol’ steamer working hard on the rails
Thanks for the kind comments as they are much appreciated 👍
Superb footage. She looked like she had that well in hand
Thanks Ryan, pleased you enjoyed the video.
Lovely bark.
Thanks Ian 👍
Hi Stephen, the video was great, love the smoke and sound of the loco working hard, great stuff.
Thanks Ken , surprising what I’ve managed to capture over the years 👍
Superb video! Thank You for posting.
Thanks for the kind comment as its much appreciated 👍
Some heroic efforts there!
Thanks Trevor, very true 👍
I lived in Carlisle for 9 years and used to photograph all the steam excursions coming into Carlisle station. I also regularly travelled on the Settle to Carlisle line. Now I live in Ausralia but watching this video takes me to a happy place :-). Thank you Stephen for a beautiful compilation of superb videos - I love your composition and use of static shots BTW.
Thanks Mark , pleased the video brings back memories for you 👍Happy Christmas and all the best for 2022
I always thought it was interesting how the steam locomotives wiggle back and forth almost like they're jogging. I'm guessing a mix of massive torque and frame flex or something.
Your compilations are always amazing. Some great captures, well done Steve, stay safe 🤓 💙
Thanks Anthony, pleased you enjoyed the video 👍
The first & Second shots are just absolutely fantastic. Rest are pretty dam good to 👍🏻
Thanks for the kind comment and I’m pleased you enjoyed the video. Regards Steve
A good few classics in there Steve, an enjoyable compilation
Thanks Austin, surprising what we capture over Shap the years .
Terrific compilation Steve, very enjoyable - many thanks for sharing.
Thanks Alan, pleased you enjoyed the video 👍
Super collection of shots. Really enjoyed them Steve. 👍👍👍
Thanks Ian, pleased you enjoyed the video 👍
Excellent ,thank you 👍
Thanks Ian, pleased you enjoyed the video 👍
Spot on Steve, a excellent collection 👍
Thanks Nige , plenty of footage to trawl through to make this one 😂
Well, I´ve never been to England... and, only saw the first Harry Potter movie long ago... however, this opening shot did remind of the Hogwart's train. Seems like Harry would be better off taking the bus instead of this train if he didn't want to report in before the first semester of school was over. Slow, but solid looking. Those coach carriages appear to be built strong enough to accept graduate-level magic. Muy divertido video... very fun video. Gracias. RT sends... envía... Puebla, México...
Thanks for the kind words that are much appreciated 👍
Only slow because these are shot on the steepest inclines in Britain. Most of these locos can cruise at well over 100mph. Modern, electric trains may do better on steep stretches but they cost hundreds of times more to build and operate. Electrification cost billions and there is growing evidence that spending even short periods of time in an electric field of 25,000kw has negative health effects.
Excellent captures Steve superb !!! ☆
Thanks Lynn, pleased you enjoyed the video 👍
Great action, well filmed. That class 5 did well.
Thanks for the kind comment and very sorry for the late response.
Very nice video Steve, great collection :)
Thanks Simon, much appreciated as ever 👍
Great compilation Steve, Miles platting a favorite for me, great sounds, Steve . 👍
Thanks Steve, sorry for the late response 😞
Excellent! There’s no other word to use!
Thanks Nigel, very kind comment from you that’s much appreciated 👍
Steve, A great compilation as always and what's common on all the clips, except one, is there is no diesel on the back and this was not pushing. Regards, John
Thanks John, I did try to put shots in without a diesel but like you the one that does the diesel wasn’t helping and to be honest as it was a test run it probably shouldn’t either .
Hi Steve. Great compilation ,Nice too lookback ...Dave.
Thanks Dave , plenty of footage to trawl through 😂👍
@@TheStephengthompson Hi Steve, Yes indeed ,Thanks for reply ...Dave
The sound is great and i like that sound
Thanks for the kind comment and I always think a video is nothing without decent sound 👍🎥
Super shots Stephen, Miles Platting the stand out shot for sound. Good shot of Great Marquees at Hougton.👍
Thanks David, Miles Platting was a great capture I must admit.
Well worth watching, I thought the first loco sounded like it kept repeating, Jaffa Cake a jaffa Cake and no I haven't touched a drop.
Thanks Phil , not heard a loco being referred to sounding like Jaffa cake but it sounds great 👍
Fantastic Steve loved the Marquess and all of them. Shame the B1 spoiled the sequence with a paraffin burner on the back
The sharp continuous bark of an engine with a load has almost been lost the the UK main lines in the last few years. Diesels like to give a little push when attached at the back
Music to the ears and eyes...
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10:10 ....ugh! I miss hearing theses going up to Cass after having maintenance or just stretching their legs
I see TH-cam subtitles also think that the Black 5 in the first clip is music :D
I suppose it was hard work but those engines handled it well
Thanks Vivian 👍
A great selection of varied and well-composed shots. Brilliant sound (but the sheep at 5:30 didn't like it).
Footplate crews earning their money here.👍
5:15 gorgeous country side.
Thanks for the kind comment and we are pretty lucky scenery wise 👍
45562 climbing Miles Platting bank just sounds epic
Thanks Joshua, that climb was spectacular I must admit 👍🎥
Brilliant!
Thanks Jon , pleased you enjoyed the video 👍
. Definitely hard work.
You know it's an 8F when you see steam coming, then some more steam, then .... :-)
Thanks Chris, always get a cracking display from the 8f I must admit 👍
Splendid !! What a pity you can't edit out the overhead gantries on some shots somehow!!😏
Thanks Johnty, I know what you mean gantry wise as they do stand out a bit .
Now that's just as preserved steam should be seen !!Working hard and unassisted . So Its a shame that there was a diesel in the presentation which for me spoiled that one clip ..
Thanks John , totally agree with you and the one clip that has a diesel on the rear was a loaded test run so they always take one just in case anything goes wrong but they don’t assist unless there’s a problem. Regards Steve
I don;t see a problem with adding a diesel onto the back.
@@rmgilyard Then you will never get the very best out of the steam loco or the engine crew !
Its very easy to " Toot For A Shove" if you need an easy run or havent managed the fire correctly and at the other extreme having to dragg 100 plus dead tons , isn't going to help much , so inevitably the diesel must dilute the steam performance and of course ruin the picture ..
How on earth did you get all of these without a tin can on the back? Well done!
Thanks Russ , most of the videos were taken back before Network rail clamped down on assisted tours in late Autumn.
It must of took an age to get anywhere by steam.
But it was quicker than the horses. I seem to remember an early journey was reduced from 4 days to 4 hours.
Yeah but still quicker than nowadays
Its hard work speaking from experience a shovel in your hands for ten hours 😅
Thanks Robert, I bet it is and certainly something I appreciate from all who fire a steam engine 👍
For gawds sake don't let Greta see this, can see a "how dare you" making its way swiftly to the comments section
I think she would choke on her breakfast 😂
You can sing the praises of 25kV all you like, and quite rightly,but you must admit that catenary looks a sorry mess!
Shoot poor the fule to it mash it in the fire wall yanker down in to 2 an jump in the hammer lain 😆😆😆😆
În ce an a decedat Stephenson ?
1848 Danut .
Mulțumesc .
All pommie trains
This train in1952
Thanks Babja, certainly could be 1952 but it’s actually quite recent 👍🎥
Be even better if you panned round as the trains past.
Thanks Nigel, some locations are near impossible to pan round especially if it’s a bridge or if someone is behind me but will take it onboard 👍
Greta would love this. 😂
Wouldn’t she just 😂😂😂
sounds like hard work because clowns have put too many coaches on the back. double heading is the answer like diesels do when needed.
Thanks for the comment Peter . Network rail ultimately decide what the tour operators can have behind a loco so not the tour operators fault but double heading would be the answer but then it’s down to logistics and cost I’d say 🤔
Hard work doesn't mean a locomotive is overloaded, it simply means that pulling a train up a long sustained gradient is by definition hardwork - especially if signal checks mean a standing start, or bad weather means a greasy railhead. Given the right combination of factors even diesels will slip and come to a standstill on quite short stretches of moderately inclined track.
All of these locomotives were working well within their design capacity. There are predetermined maximum loads for each power class of locomotive over each route. The fact that they are going slowly towards the summit or to avoid slip in bad weather is factored in to the timetabling of the train.
Thanks for the kind comment Mark and you are totally correct in what you said 👍
Uranenvirronment.
Possibly but if you see what China and the big countries churn out day in day out it’s nothing comparable ☹️
Leave them in the museum where they belong
That won’t happen for a while with the worlds most famous steam engine in Flying Scotsman still working in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧