Yes, it can still be done, but the authorities have tended to limit the number of coaches in the train, as far as I can make out, to 2 more than the engine's power classification, if unassisted. This means that a Black 5 could take no more than 7 coaches, and a Class 8 Pacific would be limited to 10; and such trains have been run in the past. The problem is that these short trains cannot generally carry enough passengers to make the day financially viable for the promoters. Therefore they tag on as many coaches as they need, and are then required to add diesel assistance.
For Saphos tours, this is true. For the Railway Touring Company tours, this is not so true. The reason all the Royal Duchy’s were diesel assisted, was because the railtour operator didn’t have enough air braked locomotives to do the tour unassisted, and had to hire less powerful locomotives which required diesel assistance.
Why didn't the driver of the stalled Castle put the loco brake on and did brake check of the passenger carriages and try to lift the train up the hill, well he didn't do that, he waited for diesel assistance. It also helps to use the valve gear in full foward, probably something he didn't do. And there was no slipping.
Steam engines climbing stiff gradients are a gift that keeps on giving!
Really good selection of videos - steam loco's are going well with some good driving skills - but thank goodness for a 60year old Class 47!
Very true!
Lovely. The first and last were probably the most inspiring.
I think so too!
Perfect panned shot of black 5 !
as always our western locos sounding lush attempting the banks once again, glad to see VT still enjoy letting them attack on their own
Enjoyed every bit of it, thanks.
Good video :)
Yes, it can still be done, but the authorities have tended to limit the number of coaches in the train, as far as I can make out, to 2 more than the engine's power classification, if unassisted. This means that a Black 5 could take no more than 7 coaches, and a Class 8 Pacific would be limited to 10; and such trains have been run in the past. The problem is that these short trains cannot generally carry enough passengers to make the day financially viable for the promoters. Therefore they tag on as many coaches as they need, and are then required to add diesel assistance.
For Saphos tours, this is true. For the Railway Touring Company tours, this is not so true. The reason all the Royal Duchy’s were diesel assisted, was because the railtour operator didn’t have enough air braked locomotives to do the tour unassisted, and had to hire less powerful locomotives which required diesel assistance.
60007 Sir Nigel Gresley can hardly be considered to do the attempt :((
It was put in as a bit of a joker! The fact is the 47 couldn't have done it without Gresley.
@@steamtothewest-trecanrail I meant SNG couldn't have done that alone; it's clear that they both were working.
this place must have had a resident banker back in steam days?
Why didn't the driver of the stalled Castle put the loco brake on and did brake check of the passenger carriages and try to lift the train up the hill, well he didn't do that, he waited for diesel assistance. It also helps to use the valve gear in full foward, probably something he didn't do. And there was no slipping.
Is Hemerden the next stop along from Hemeroyd?
So they let a couple of Castles loose without a tedious diesel on the back. Well they are GW locos.....
Amazing!! :)