@@Dawwwg Lewis has been a game changer since his rookie season. Not an educated take to think otherwise with all the records he has broken and continues to even in not the best car. Also his rookie and twilight form both top Michael’s. Michael lost to Rosberg three years in a row.
Lulu is just mediocre when the cars is not dominant. Even his team mate beats him regularly. That did never happen with Schumacher. And it never happened to Max. Nough said.
@@caskraker And Lewis had a massive setback in 2021, they’re all phenomenal but doubting Lewis’s greatness and calling him mediocre just isn’t an educated take. Especially with how natural he was his rookie season and all he’s accomplished since.
Considering the Verstappen's and Schumacher's families were so close that they went on holidays together, I think it's all but impossible that Schumacher didn't took part in Verstappen his training regiment. For the Netherland Verstappen really is the "Johan Cruijff" for this century.
I respect all drivers. Senna is a legend. For me Max Verstappen is the greatest of all time. Schumacher was a cheat in cheat cars. Lewis simply had the fastest car for almost 8 years. Verstappen can make a bad car look great. This guy is so allround. He is a master in the rain just like Senna. He has a superieur mentality and never gives up. The only thing is that he is not charismatic and is not a smooth talker like Lewis.
Lewis had competition because he just isn’t that good as he is hyped to be. Bloated stats based on a superior car worth 40 million more than any other car on the grid during 8 years of unchanged rules. Sheep no goat.
Merc won the constructors in 21. It was a fast car, especially in the later stages where they boosted their engine modes. Let’s not say it was a crap car, that’s ridiculous.
You’re right, not quite on Lewis level. The rookie season really separates Lewis from the others and how good he still is at an older age unlike Michael when he returned.
@@Minifliek Correct Lewis lost to Rosberg once and Rosberg knew he couldn’t do it again so he retired because Lewis’s competitiveness was too mentally draining for Rosberg. Michael lost to Rosberg three consecutive years. Jenson is a great driver so fair-play and Lewis beat a much younger George Russell in 2023, dominated him. 2024 he announced he’s leaving the team and if you know Formula 1, Mercedes is smart to favor the driver staying for sponsorships and team morale etc. Even with that Lewis is very close.
@@rientsdijkstra4266 So we’re just going to forget 2008 and how close the Ferrari was to McLaren that year and Lewis winning by a single point. 2017-2018 also Ferrari and Vettel were a threat and Hamilton had to be consistent and deliver under pressure.
Praise Michael as much as you want, he deserve it but don't go and glaze him by saying his questionable antics were subconscious. He is the most calculated driver ever to drive F1.
Fangio hardly had any competition because in those years racing a racecar was only for the happy very (3x) few. Much easier to be the best when there are only a few competing in racing, compared to now.
Comparing Fangio to Verstappen is a Joke. Back then they had 8 or 10 races a year. And they raced in Horrible dangerous cars. That doesn't make you a better racer. You just had to be crazier than the drivers today.
You can compare F1 drivers to sportspeople in any other sport. Since records are broken all the time there's always progress in the development and capabilities of sportspeople. Compared to decades ago preparation is much better and they are constantly studied and monitored to get the most out of their entire being, both physical and mental. And that is constantly evolving and improving as well. F1 drivers are not different in that than swimmers, runners or whatever. There's no sport where winners from yesteryear could compete and win on today's level. Why would F1 be different.
1. in the early days cars did not had many buttons on a car. these days they are adding inputs on the wheel every single corner. then have to talk with engineer etc. so the drivers of today have less braincells to focus completely on racing only. 2 max when he has the fastest car broke all important seasonal records. max can easy break lewis record of most race wins, if he got just like lewis the fastest cars. it is like lebron breaking soon the 3 point throw record, while he has played 700 more games to do it.
It’s a travesty we only got one year of Lewis vs max. Two legends with different driving styles putting on a masterclass of a championship battle. Schumacher was a dirty driver. People say max is but I don’t think he is as bad as people make him out to be. Max is clever he just uses the grey areas of the rules and maximises it to his advantage. Max and Lewis above Schumacher all day every day and twice on a Sunday!
I didn't know that Lewis was not competing in 2022, 2023and 2024. That must be the reason that he was hardly on the podium! I always thought that it was the not 20% plus power engine missing but Lewis didn't compete!😅
Who is the best football player? Is it Pele, Georgy Best, Cruyff, Messi or Ronaldo? It is a ridiculous question, because there is no way you can compare them. It is the same with F1 drivers. How can you compare Fangio with Senna, or Schumacher with Hamilton or Max Verstappen. Lets just agree on that they were all great sportsmen and exceptional talented people.
Fangio was a brave big balls spitfire pilot and current F1 drivers are super human F22 fighter pilots, comparing is romantic but it is BS. Divide it in 2, old F1 and modern F1 from the 90’s Now some inconvenient truth, Lewis was never in the GOAT debate with Senna and Schumacher and now Max. Lewis has a 7 year walk in the park to 6 easy WDC’s, didn’t matter who was driving, beaten with a second in qualify and he would still be P2, now he is out in Q2 with a second. It’s delusional and when you talk about Senna, Schumacher and Max and their driving style, they never took anyone out on purpose with 200mph only sir holy Lewis, Lewis has clashed with 12 drivers in the last 3 years alone. Lets be honest, you Brits don’t dare to judge Lewis as a racing driver, it’s all woke BS afraid of getting canceled, Lewis must make you all look woke and inclusive but the reality is that he is now way near a clean driver and or saint.
Raikkonen was destroyed on pure pace by Alonso and Vettel. Another British myth from wishful thinking because they wanted a driver to beat the hated Schumacher so bad, who had his moments but certainly didn't have a dark streak. It was Hill's mistake. 3 time WDC Piquet had a sebservient contract? He was just slower, just like all the other teammates were much slower to an embarassing lot slower. But now Schumacher can't answer himself the British journos go full berserk on their conspiracy theories to talk down the hated German. Disgusting cowards. The special thing of Schumacher is that he chose not to chase the most WDCs but 1 WDC with Ferrari. He could have won a lot more but went to the very much struggling Ferrari as the driver every team wanted badly because he was far above all of them. That is what greats do, they take a car that doesn't belong there into the WDC fight. They fight with cars for the win that wouldn't be there with any other driver. That's how they got their seat from a top team with the best car, unless you have the right passport and are just invited in like Hamilton. So just the usual toxic British bias again.
😠 Lewis is not getting the treatment he once did since 21 from Mercedes, especially this year because he going to Ferrari. Also the Mercedes cars have been crap since 21. Oh yeah you obviously did not watch Lewis in Vegas. As for Michael. Michael did not get sacked mate, Michael retired because Ferrari signed Kimi for 07. Michael has a soft spot for Massa & felt it was right thing to do for Massa to keep his seat. Michael achieved so much but the decision to retire could not have been an easy decision for Michael.
This constant downplay of Hamiltons prime after a poor season at 39 is extremely tedious. Hes not what he was but he’s actually a lot better for his age than Schumi was at the same stage tbh
Hamilton is a great driver. But he got all his WDC's in an extremely superior car. So we simply don't know how good he really is. What we do know however is that Max beat him in 2021 when bother cars where comparable
Max is not lewis successor , he's michael's !!!
It’s more of a compliment to say Lewis’s. Michael really fell off with age unlike Lewis, also Lewis was an insane rookie.
@@jonSLAYR Lewis isn't as good as Michael; the latter was a game changer, just like Max is; Lewis "merely" dominated the game for years.
Senna's
@@Dawwwg Lewis has been a game changer since his rookie season. Not an educated take to think otherwise with all the records he has broken and continues to even in not the best car. Also his rookie and twilight form both top Michael’s. Michael lost to Rosberg three years in a row.
@@Dawwwg Lewis will always be better than Michael. Schumacher fell off after 36. Lewis is the only driver to win a race after 300 races
Lulu is just mediocre when the cars is not dominant. Even his team mate beats him regularly. That did never happen with Schumacher. And it never happened to Max. Nough said.
2010-2012…. says otherwise regarding Schumacher. He lost to Rosberg three seasons in a row.
@@jonSLAYR Don’t edit your comments like this, it is bad form.
@@caskraker You needed more context so I added it.
@ By deleting text I reacted to. Whatever. Schumacher had been out of competition for years. Lulu hasn’t. No comparison.
@@caskraker And Lewis had a massive setback in 2021, they’re all phenomenal but doubting Lewis’s greatness and calling him mediocre just isn’t an educated take. Especially with how natural he was his rookie season and all he’s accomplished since.
Considering the Verstappen's and Schumacher's families were so close that they went on holidays together, I think it's all but impossible that Schumacher didn't took part in Verstappen his training regiment. For the Netherland Verstappen really is the "Johan Cruijff" for this century.
Merc in 21 was the fastest in most races. Amazing that Max brought the fight down to the wire.
Max is not lewis successor , he's michael's I agreed with Berthobo3912
Senna's!
There can be only one.
I respect all drivers. Senna is a legend. For me Max Verstappen is the greatest of all time. Schumacher was a cheat in cheat cars. Lewis simply had the fastest car for almost 8 years. Verstappen can make a bad car look great. This guy is so allround. He is a master in the rain just like Senna. He has a superieur mentality and never gives up. The only thing is that he is not charismatic and is not a smooth talker like Lewis.
Lewis had competition because he just isn’t that good as he is hyped to be. Bloated stats based on a superior car worth 40 million more than any other car on the grid during 8 years of unchanged rules. Sheep no goat.
Merc won the constructors in 21. It was a fast car, especially in the later stages where they boosted their engine modes. Let’s not say it was a crap car, that’s ridiculous.
Max has nothing to do with Lewis. His f1 "father" is Michael Schumacher... The red baron himself.
You’re right, not quite on Lewis level. The rookie season really separates Lewis from the others and how good he still is at an older age unlike Michael when he returned.
@@jonSLAYR We talking about Lewis Hamilton beaten by Nico Rosberg, Jenson Button and George Russel?
@@Minifliek Correct Lewis lost to Rosberg once and Rosberg knew he couldn’t do it again so he retired because Lewis’s competitiveness was too mentally draining for Rosberg. Michael lost to Rosberg three consecutive years. Jenson is a great driver so fair-play and Lewis beat a much younger George Russell in 2023, dominated him. 2024 he announced he’s leaving the team and if you know Formula 1, Mercedes is smart to favor the driver staying for sponsorships and team morale etc. Even with that Lewis is very close.
@@jonSLAYR Bruh, Hamilton got ALL his WDC's in an extremely superior car. And Max beat him in 2021 when bother cars where comparable.
@@rientsdijkstra4266 So we’re just going to forget 2008 and how close the Ferrari was to McLaren that year and Lewis winning by a single point. 2017-2018 also Ferrari and Vettel were a threat and Hamilton had to be consistent and deliver under pressure.
This is easy …. Max is the best and Lewis is the 18th best ever.
As a max fan what are you on about lewis being 18th ever?? Hes 1or2 atm
@ You’re a Lewis fan. Admit it
@@stableianF1oracle absoluut
Praise Michael as much as you want, he deserve it but don't go and glaze him by saying his questionable antics were subconscious. He is the most calculated driver ever to drive F1.
Fangio hardly had any competition because in those years racing a racecar was only for the happy very (3x) few. Much easier to be the best when there are only a few competing in racing, compared to now.
Max is not a succesor, he is an evolution of Michael's!
Michael is a wannabe Senna.
Max is Senna.
Senna reincarnated.
Senna is colapinto
Max is Max... goat
Comparing Fangio to Verstappen is a Joke. Back then they had 8 or 10 races a year. And they raced in Horrible dangerous cars. That doesn't make you a better racer. You just had to be crazier than the drivers today.
Fangio was a big fish in a tiny pond. He also had use of his team mates cars when his own broke down.
No comparison.
You can compare F1 drivers to sportspeople in any other sport. Since records are broken all the time there's always progress in the development and capabilities of sportspeople. Compared to decades ago preparation is much better and they are constantly studied and monitored to get the most out of their entire being, both physical and mental. And that is constantly evolving and improving as well. F1 drivers are not different in that than swimmers, runners or whatever. There's no sport where winners from yesteryear could compete and win on today's level. Why would F1 be different.
And ho from the cureent pundits have seen Fangio drive?
You are right, now the competition is much tighter, making the difference is much harder.
Completely INCOMPARABLE. You are clearly rambling nonsense. Nowadays the level is much higher and it is much harder to become WDC.
1. in the early days cars did not had many buttons on a car. these days they are adding inputs on the wheel every single corner. then have to talk with engineer etc. so the drivers of today have less braincells to focus completely on racing only. 2 max when he has the fastest car broke all important seasonal records. max can easy break lewis record of most race wins, if he got just like lewis the fastest cars. it is like lebron breaking soon the 3 point throw record, while he has played 700 more games to do it.
Max is neither Lewis, Schumacher or Senna equivalent.
He is HIGHEST amongst them.
It’s a travesty we only got one year of Lewis vs max. Two legends with different driving styles putting on a masterclass of a championship battle. Schumacher was a dirty driver. People say max is but I don’t think he is as bad as people make him out to be. Max is clever he just uses the grey areas of the rules and maximises it to his advantage. Max and Lewis above Schumacher all day every day and twice on a Sunday!
I didn't know that Lewis was not competing in 2022, 2023and 2024.
That must be the reason that he was hardly on the podium!
I always thought that it was the not 20% plus power engine missing but Lewis didn't compete!😅
Who is the best football player? Is it Pele, Georgy Best, Cruyff, Messi or Ronaldo? It is a ridiculous question, because there is no way you can compare them. It is the same with F1 drivers. How can you compare Fangio with Senna, or Schumacher with Hamilton or Max Verstappen. Lets just agree on that they were all great sportsmen and exceptional talented people.
Fangio was a brave big balls spitfire pilot and current F1 drivers are super human F22 fighter pilots, comparing is romantic but it is BS.
Divide it in 2, old F1 and modern F1 from the 90’s
Now some inconvenient truth, Lewis was never in the GOAT debate with Senna and Schumacher and now Max.
Lewis has a 7 year walk in the park to 6 easy WDC’s, didn’t matter who was driving, beaten with a second in qualify and he would still be P2, now he is out in Q2 with a second.
It’s delusional and when you talk about Senna, Schumacher and Max and their driving style, they never took anyone out on purpose with 200mph only sir holy Lewis, Lewis has clashed with 12 drivers in the last 3 years alone. Lets be honest, you Brits don’t dare to judge Lewis as a racing driver, it’s all woke BS afraid of getting canceled, Lewis must make you all look woke and inclusive but the reality is that he is now way near a clean driver and or saint.
interesting stories!
Raikkonen was destroyed on pure pace by Alonso and Vettel. Another British myth from wishful thinking because they wanted a driver to beat the hated Schumacher so bad, who had his moments but certainly didn't have a dark streak. It was Hill's mistake.
3 time WDC Piquet had a sebservient contract? He was just slower, just like all the other teammates were much slower to an embarassing lot slower. But now Schumacher can't answer himself the British journos go full berserk on their conspiracy theories to talk down the hated German. Disgusting cowards.
The special thing of Schumacher is that he chose not to chase the most WDCs but 1 WDC with Ferrari. He could have won a lot more but went to the very much struggling Ferrari as the driver every team wanted badly because he was far above all of them. That is what greats do, they take a car that doesn't belong there into the WDC fight. They fight with cars for the win that wouldn't be there with any other driver. That's how they got their seat from a top team with the best car, unless you have the right passport and are just invited in like Hamilton.
So just the usual toxic British bias again.
They can't change the fact that their precious driver Hill is just an average talent in f1.
Of out in the off season
Lewis wishes, lol
😠
Lewis is not getting the treatment he once did since 21 from Mercedes, especially this year because he going to Ferrari.
Also the Mercedes cars have been crap since 21.
Oh yeah you obviously did not watch Lewis in Vegas.
As for Michael. Michael did not get sacked mate, Michael retired because Ferrari signed Kimi for 07. Michael has a soft spot for Massa & felt it was right thing to do for Massa to keep his seat. Michael achieved so much but the decision to retire could not have been an easy decision for Michael.
This constant downplay of Hamiltons prime after a poor season at 39 is extremely tedious. Hes not what he was but he’s actually a lot better for his age than Schumi was at the same stage tbh
Hamilton is a great driver. But he got all his WDC's in an extremely superior car. So we simply don't know how good he really is. What we do know however is that Max beat him in 2021 when bother cars where comparable
What? Schumi left f1 for years and got a permanent neck injury prior to his comeback in 2010.
@@rientsdijkstra4266 Merc was the fastest in most races in 2021
Max is 4x fake champion. Discount 2021 Lewis was robbed. Unforgettable Championship robbery
Keep on crying, you cultists have nothing but utter BS to offer.
Lewis a fake 7 time then? 🤦🏼♂️😂
Euhm, you are not really good with logic, aren't you?
You’ll get that Fanta from your mum, sweetie
Start watch some cricket mate and stay away from racing