Great stuff. I just wish that, when you quote Jung, you would give the exact reference where the quote is from i.e. from which volume of the collected works along with the paragraph number. Hope you read this. Thanks in advance.
I thank you all three for the lovely pod cast, but I thank even more the Dreamer. I have been thinking about the way a tiny bit of arsenic taken regularly ( thanks to Dorothy Sayers! 😂) makes hair lush, though I would imagine would also make one feel ill. Peacocks eat poison which makes their tail feathers beautiful...they are also a symbol of wisdom. Whispering, but unidentified colleagues are known to cause damage. Of course this is just things to consider along with the rest. Offered in all humility, because only the Dreamer can know. She seems to have " won", come out the stronger. The pinch of poison has made the hair/tail feathers the better for it. In all gratitude, Charlotte L Greff
Another beautiful episode. Thank you! I’d like to chip in with the dream analysis, if I may. Somehow a man with supernatural hair sitting on a chair as described by the dreamer in my imagination gives way to a fantasy of seeing Zeus presiding on his throne. If you type “Zeus hair” in Google you’ll notice how many hair salons in the world are capitalizing on this word association even today. In classical depictions Zeus has a voluminous and beautiful hair indeed. It’s a convalescent (recharging) Zeus that the dreamer encountered but an convalescent King of Gods is a god nonetheless. We know that Zeus is a master of disguise and can appear as many things including a bull, an eagle, etc. He can certainly pull off the appearance of a tired man. I began fantasizing about Zeus once you gave us some context for this dream. The dreamer had a conversation with a friend on that day because she felt her space had been trespassed. The dreamer adds that she felt that being angry felt good and that she felt extremely energized. “Angry” and "energized" are the keyword here, I’d say. Zeus is an angry god and his outbursts of calculated rage give name to Zeus complex which is none other than “a tendency to monopolize authority and to eliminate in others anything which might be seen as a display of independence.” That energy the dreamer feels so excited about is of a very dangerous nature. It’s Zeus’s anger buzzing with electricity. Zeus and high voltage natural electricity are synonyms. Zeus destroys things and people by throwing lightning at them. The dreamer sampled it and liked it. But this is not normal for humans to dwell in god’s realm. It’s like feeling excited about getting away with lighting a cigarette from a strike of lightning. There are matches for that! It’s way too dangerous. The dreamer has to find another way to channel her (newly discovered or rarely expressed) feeling of being angry. It’s a destructive force so it needs to be unleashed with caution. I’d go even further and suggest that the dreamer might have been a subject of someone else’s Zeus complex which affected her own way of reacting. Zeus is a father figure. An authoritative one. Logos. Can it be that the dreamer’s original (unplaced) anger resides there? And if we stay with the Olympian terminology then the females hidden in the dark collectively represent Eros, or the ability to relate to others which is currently in the depressed state because they are only lurking in the dark causing fear. I’d say that the message of this dream is that of caution. Leave the Mount Olympus and the gods and go down where humans live. Find a healthy way to express your anger. Reconcile the male and female qualities, i.e. Logos and Eros in you 🙏
A figure inside who’s forbidden to speak Disturbing the ego and made to feel weak The sharp interruption Produces disruption An outburst in shame that exposes the freak
Great stuff. I just wish that, when you quote Jung, you would give the exact reference where the quote is from i.e. from which volume of the collected works along with the paragraph number. Hope you read this. Thanks in advance.
I thank you all three for the lovely pod cast, but I thank even more the Dreamer. I have been thinking about the way a tiny bit of arsenic taken regularly ( thanks to Dorothy Sayers! 😂) makes hair lush, though I would imagine would also make one feel ill. Peacocks eat poison which makes their tail feathers beautiful...they are also a symbol of wisdom. Whispering, but unidentified colleagues are known to cause damage. Of course this is just things to consider along with the rest. Offered in all humility, because only the Dreamer can know. She seems to have " won", come out the stronger. The pinch of poison has made the hair/tail feathers the better for it.
In all gratitude,
Charlotte L Greff
Another beautiful episode. Thank you! I’d like to chip in with the dream analysis, if I may.
Somehow a man with supernatural hair sitting on a chair as described by the dreamer in my imagination gives way to a fantasy of seeing Zeus presiding on his throne. If you type “Zeus hair” in Google you’ll notice how many hair salons in the world are capitalizing on this word association even today. In classical depictions Zeus has a voluminous and beautiful hair indeed.
It’s a convalescent (recharging) Zeus that the dreamer encountered but an convalescent King of Gods is a god nonetheless. We know that Zeus is a master of disguise and can appear as many things including a bull, an eagle, etc. He can certainly pull off the appearance of a tired man. I began fantasizing about Zeus once you gave us some context for this dream. The dreamer had a conversation with a friend on that day because she felt her space had been trespassed. The dreamer adds that she felt that being angry felt good and that she felt extremely energized.
“Angry” and "energized" are the keyword here, I’d say. Zeus is an angry god and his outbursts of calculated rage give name to Zeus complex which is none other than “a tendency to monopolize authority and to eliminate in others anything which might be seen as a display of independence.” That energy the dreamer feels so excited about is of a very dangerous nature. It’s Zeus’s anger buzzing with electricity. Zeus and high voltage natural electricity are synonyms. Zeus destroys things and people by throwing lightning at them. The dreamer sampled it and liked it. But this is not normal for humans to dwell in god’s realm. It’s like feeling excited about getting away with lighting a cigarette from a strike of lightning. There are matches for that! It’s way too dangerous. The dreamer has to find another way to channel her (newly discovered or rarely expressed) feeling of being angry. It’s a destructive force so it needs to be unleashed with caution.
I’d go even further and suggest that the dreamer might have been a subject of someone else’s Zeus complex which affected her own way of reacting. Zeus is a father figure. An authoritative one. Logos. Can it be that the dreamer’s original (unplaced) anger resides there? And if we stay with the Olympian terminology then the females hidden in the dark collectively represent Eros, or the ability to relate to others which is currently in the depressed state because they are only lurking in the dark causing fear.
I’d say that the message of this dream is that of caution. Leave the Mount Olympus and the gods and go down where humans live. Find a healthy way to express your anger. Reconcile the male and female qualities, i.e. Logos and Eros in you 🙏
A figure inside who’s forbidden to speak
Disturbing the ego and made to feel weak
The sharp interruption
Produces disruption
An outburst in shame that exposes the freak
Outstanding!!! ~ Joseph