How Do I Quit A Toxic Job?
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As a 27 year old working at a toxic job as well, I needed this
I have never had a bad JOB. It's always shitty bosses/management/work environment.
Bingo!
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Quitting a toxic job is easy. It's finding something better that isn't.
People don’t leave jobs. They leave bosses.
They do both! Ppl outgrown jobs all the times
Yes!
That's for sure.
And the poisonous colleagues.
@@carojames6776 tell me about it
It's so diffucult working in an increasingly toxic work environment when I'm nearing retirement, and don't know when that will be... when I'm 70 and single income now. Leadership all male, literally no HR department, not listened to, greedy ungrateful leadership. Please pray for me if you are a Believer.
Dave saying “I’m sorry” made her break instantly. Crazy how toxic environments are really just a simple lack of empathy by leadership.
The toxic guy who doesn’t care about people leaving, is now giving advice on how to leave toxic workplace lol.
He has a good point about exit interviews honestly, if the company doesnt listen to you when you work there, theyre not gonna care once you quit. Exit interviews themselves are a good idea, an honest company would do them and try to learn from their mistakes, but a toxic workplace is going to continue to ignore the problems
Factsss
Bingo! You are absolutely correct 💯
They don’t care!
Ramsey admitting to being a toxic boss that doesn't care about feedback explains a lot.
If you have a relatively high retention rate and low turnover, there’s no reason to care. I’d agree with his premise if that is the case for him but who knows 🤷🏽♂️
They wont listen to your opinions when you're there. They won't listen to your opinions either when you leave. So moral of the story here is to just leave
True
Yup
Working in the medical field is one of the most unappreciated, thankless careers. I agree with the useless "leadership" and the toxic environment. I would tell anyone not to bother with it...
As a former Healthcare Hero, I can confirm.
but but but the pay should make it all worth it, no ?
I see your medical field and raise you law enforcement field
Doesn't compare with corporate life where you can get thrown in the streets on a minutes notice. Absolutely immoral and unethical.
And teaching.
“I’m staying you’re leaving, why do I care what you think” is the epitome of a toxic workplace. Perhaps you should care because others in your company might be exiting for the same reason unless you reflect and do something about it.
Absolutely, hearing this worried me. You need to care why people are leaving your organization and if the same sentiments could potentially be shared by others
I work in HR and I completely agree with the comment about the exit interviews! No HR department that I've ever worked with has ever done anything with the information they learned from exit interviews. It's such a shame. If I'm ever in a leadership position in HR, I will take exit interviews seriously! Leaving a toxic HR environment and I'm being asked to do a exit interview. "No thank you"
Ain’t nobody sitting down to do no exit interview…lol once we done WERE done!
Invest in interviews with people who are on board. Too late to invest in interviews with people who quit.
@@187Chevy exactly you got that right! We’re done!
Plot twist....
THE CALL IS COMING FROM IN THE BUILDING!!!
😂😂
Omg...good one!
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
Have a 1 year emergency fund and u can leave a toxic job . It's all about the ER fund
And a in demand skillset
Honestly this day and age it's actually much easier to leave a toxic job than it was years ago. You can do jobs whenever you want to like uber, doordash, postmates, pick people's groceries up for them and get paid for it. With all that being said yes you should at least have three to six months of an emergency fund to use just in case.
I had a buddy at an exit interview say that in order to improve the organization they need to "fire all of the leadership staff" and he's doing just fine today lol.
I wonder if I work at the same place as your buddy did.
1. Get signed off from your GP for workplace stress 2. file a grievance with HR 3. Resign, negotiating your exit.
Get away from toxic, malevolent people. The longer you stay, the harder it will be to heal.
Dave just proved this: People need to check their egos at the door and realize leadership at most workforces don’t give a sh*% about your opinion, otherwise they’d ask for it.
That's why people need to work for themselves
I work in the medical field and it’s so toxic, I feel her pain.
I surprisingly got hired by a company who I thought was not impressed by my interview. I took it as a positive nod from the universe when I got the job. I accepted the position and felt like it was going to be great fit. 4 months in, I’m regretting it. The environment is like a fraternity, the gal who was supposed to train me in did a lackluster job, but tends to other employees like they’re family, my manager is passive aggressive, and I feel like hardly none of my coworkers are trying to connect with me no matter how I try to connect with them. It’s a very awkward situation to be in everyday. I’m a hair away from putting in my two weeks notice.
Too many women in the workplace they undercut each other all day. I deal with this everyday.
Yes, they run in packs until there is no one to put a target on and then their group implodes due to they all want control. Our company is the same way.
Yeah this is a big issue in the medical field
Yes!
That is why I avoid hiring females. Too much drama.
👍🏻👈🏻 they're jokes
Just slip out the back Jack, make a new plan Stan, just drop off the key Lee... just set yourself FREE! Just write a simple classy letter of resignation, give at least two weeks notice and graciously move on.
Never give ANY notice. They don't care about you. Watch out for yourself.
@@wyatt1153 facts they will disrespect you or fire you with no hesitation. Same i will never put in a 2 week notice. Never have never will.
@@hemilifestyle1715 I've seen them throw people in the streets with no notice. Evil.
@hemilifestyle1715 I thought 2 weeks is part of the contract?
Why are so many workplaces toxic
Because people are toxic
Money, power, influence, ambition, greed...if you think about it gravitates the worst kind of person
I think workplaces in general are toxic
Loss of paternal leadership in the homes
Lack of true leadership
Thank you for saying it Dave. I have never agreed with exit interviews and will never do one. I don’t care what they say about it.
You should thou
Ramsey kind of showed himself to be one of those toxic leaders through this video.
😂 Exactly!! 💯
He actually is. I lived in Nashville and know people who worked for him. A very controlling religious freak
Yup
He is a toxic leader. Just ask people who work for him. Creepy dude.
Thought the same thing.
Dave ramse. Your advice is no good in the real world. You have no clue.
The real world doesn't actually exist.
Ramsey should listen to exit interviews to make his work environment a better place to work. Pretty ignorant statement.
@wyatt1153, nope. Any large corporation does them to sniff out if a lawsuit is on the horizon for them. Nothing more. They do not care about your thoughts or feelings.
Well it's been known that working for him is horrible so not shocked he doesn't care Dave is the stereotypical old guy who struggles to change
@@Tunechi65 State your sources please. "Know" by who exactly? The people who violated the company code of conduct and were fired?
I agree. Honestly dave is giving horrible advice. If he is not listening to any kind of exit interview for improvement i can already tell you his place is one of those "positive toxic" work environments where it looks ok on the surface, but people are frightened underneath the surface.
Ignorance and arrogance are a dangerous combination
Why bother putting in a 2 week notice if they can fire you at virtually any time ?
A lot of times people give lots of input and it falls on deaf ears. You as a boss or a leader need to listen or you’ll lose employees that actually care and do the work!
But some bosses don’t care to lose good employees because they will retire anyway.
A principal, I know, will be retiring soon but along the way he has been harassing many good teachers and creating a toxic environment. He doesn’t do all of it directly, but he has his minions, the assistant principals do the bullying.
This principal will be getting a cushy pension, but he will destroy the path of teachers who are getting close to retire and to earn their hard-earned pension.
I hope there is karma for evil monsters like him.
Plot twist: she works at Ramsey Solutions and is talking about toxic Dave.
Real good advice here from Dave. Go out with class. Looking for a new job is a lot of work and stress, but she's gotta get out of there.
I understand where Dave is coming from but I feel like he is missing an opportunity here. Let say hypothetically if 20 people leave under your leadership and 19 of those people are doing it for the same reason then you as a leader should be taking that information very seriously. Sure you may not want to change how you’re doing things but more input is never a bad thing.
@@michaelwebber4155 that may be true, but I honed in on what Dave was saying about opinions, specifically the job you’re leaving. They don’t want to listen to you, if they did they would’ve done what they should’ve been done long time ago!
Ive quit job with nothing lined up
I hope you've found something better.
There are so many different areas in nursing that there should be something for anyone. I thank God every day I went into nursing. I’ve had to bounce around and I’ve dealt with some horrors but overall it’s a great career field.
I can one up that , i stated a job about 2 years ago. I got a job i fucking hate just being straight the company is one of those small 40 employee companies that barely can give me 40 hours as is.
Anyways, yesterday they told me i was required to take on alot more responsibility. I friendly told them that i am good where i am at. I really don't want to be in a position of such responsibilities anymore. Mind you i have zero issues with my job or issues such at attendence never had an issue.
I was told i either accept the "extension" of my role. Or i am no longer needed at the company.
I told them , no worries ill do it ..
My manager texted me "sorry bro for that was beyond me"
I told him to stop texting me after hours . I am most definitely fucking off there. And i came to the realization?!
I need to sell my house, i am going to step towards being no longer a job slave. Ill be debt free buy something alot smaller and go for what i NEED.
I won't give them two weeks eirher, i own them notning. I own it to myself and my family to set ourselves up properly.
SOUNDS LIKE MY JOB🤣🤣😭
dave ramsey doesn't like exit interviews ever since they pointed out the sexism of his office dating/baby-having policy (which was apparently pro-abortion for unmarried women)
never pro abortion - why would you say that?
He's never done exit interviews.
Your points helped in quitting a job in a toxic workplace. Sometimes there is the employee who creates a toxic environment that leads to a rise in employee turnover rate. We were facing the same problem of a toxic environment, so we anonymously install computer monitoring software like CleverControl. This software turns out life-changing point for our organization. We easily figure out the person who provokes others about the organization. As a result, we reduce toxic environments and employee turnover.
Just say three words.
I QUIT.
I QU IT?
Maybe learn how to count first.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 might have learned math via Common Core 😆
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 Maybe learn what it means first.
@@jimmymcgill6778 I understand what 'three' means. You clearly don't.
I hate my job, been there 12 years and I knew it was a garbage job when I started and somehow I'm still there.
Cuz u like the smell of garbage
@@pahanin2480 Thanks, I'm just too comfortable being miserable.
@@shootthemoon9549 well if this helps you're not the only one, don't beat yourself up too much because at least you have a job and it sounds like it's paying the bills. I quit a job that I later regretted, although if I had stayed I would still be trying to leave, if that makes sense.
Regardless if it pays the bills. Keep looking for a replacement job. Don’t give up! & don’t settle your worth more than that.
@hemilifestyle1715 agreed!
I would not do an exit interview either. The company knows I am leaving and they don't care otherwise problems would have been fixed beforehand.
4:15 yep that's textbook toxic leadership 😂
How to quit a job. Walk in say I’m Rick James b$&@& slap the boss and walk out
She wants so much just to unload on these people on her way out.
Love it when Dave steals a narcissist's thunder
She’s not the definition of a narcissist
@@thishappycrafter272 go read a dictionary or learn how to read people.
@@joeriveracomedy I’m aware of what a narcissist is and this is not it
@@joeriveracomedy Okay, give me the times when she was acting narcissistic in this call
@@thishappycrafter272 honey, if you had the goods to be the boss at your nursing job, you would be. You wouldn't have called Dave, interrupting him and bloviating about how much better you think you are than your soon to be former superiors otherwise. Good luck at your next failed job.
People are so clueless today. Why would anyone ask such a dumb question. It's simple, find another job and put in your notice. Your overthinking it.
Some people work their whole lives and work years and decades on one company that they get emotional and get too attact to co workers.
She recently took this job, so wanted to know how she could leave after a short time without giving herself a bad name in the industry. Many industries are very tight-knit in the local area so leaving on bad terms could affect her chances at a job at similar workplaces.
My toxic job tried to put me on PIP disciplinary while on FMLA with medical restrictions.
Now...having to make tough decisions with nothing lined up for the sake of health physical and mental.
Dave just admitted that he doesn’t care about people’s opinion. He doesn’t do exit interviews because he doesn’t care what people say. Ouch
Most places of employment don't care tbh.
The real question is why do you care about other peoples opinion?
@@unfairsanic5089 the real question is why do you care about my opinion?
@@jfresh2054 but why
Well yeah..he is a Republican. No heart.
I used to work the medical field and I tell everyone how toxic it can be. What you see as a patient is not the same as what goes on behind the scenes. A lot of toxicity and bullying. No thank you glad I left
I had enough toxicity for years although my jobs pays very well. Im an x-ray tech the work is heavy but with a dumb boss makes it worse
Move on.. lots of other jobs out there.
Nursing especially.
I agree with Dave. They aren’t going to do anything with the feedback you give them.
They’ll continue as they are and keep churning through staff. My previous manager has already had a complaint in by staff and customers for her attitude but still no change, lol you can’t change someone’s character.
Same here! Perfect video at the perfect time. Just got into a position where this is happening. Values don't align with mine so I'm in the process of changing jobs as well.
Dear Colleague, don’t ask a non-health professional about opinion… they can’t get it, understand it, don’t understand the abuses against us.
There are industry nuances but the general idea is the same - regardless of industry. There are toxic people and jobs everywhere.
I am in IT and can fully relate to her!
You're not special just because you work in health care. Get over yourself
Isn’t that like saying a cancer doctor can’t possibly help someone unless they themselves had cancer? It doesn’t seem right to say only someone in the same field can provide a valuable opinion. On a funnier note Ramsey is an expert at giving his opinion he has stated that clearly many times
@@NOHANDLENECESSARY-x8heveryone is an expert at giving an opinion tho
Just quit you dont need to have another job if you have somewhere to stay. It isn't worth the stress and some time off will clear your head.
Free loader
That field is very competitive! So leaving without having a job in place is silly
Total bs
Agreed! Nursing and medical jobs right now are so tough! Leadership basically all retired due to the unconstitutionally required medical treatment, so there is a LOT of a vacuum in leadership. I love the sample language Dave provided and that advice!
This is across other industries too! Poor leadership is a modern phenomenon, or has it always been around in waves?
I always say " eat a bag of s#!7, get my money"
I’m going through this now and it’s time to go. I love the work, but the leadership is making it insufferable 😩 😂
Need to hear this right now currently working at a place that surely IS a toxic place I just couldn't believe it turned out to be that way
Same. I always thought that the job im at now isn’t that big of a deal but i was COMPLETELY wrong.
this is solid advice from them
I finally got out today after 6 long months…full check new job lined up yess sirrr I’m as resilient as they come but I’ll never stay in any situation that makes me miserable n I’ll never sit down to do a silly “exit” interview unless I was getting paid for it ✌️
Ramsey is so toxic omg lol
No job is worth you putting up with abuse. Prioritise you mental health and be at peace with it. If you can find another job before leaving great. If not find another job ( whatever that may be), whilst you are trying to find your preferred job.
Idk but this sounded like you don't think there's ever a toxic boss. Im 53 years old and have always worked hard and there are a ton of toxic employers! The women that called in sounded sincere and even traumatized by her work environment. Thr response to her seemed very condescending, not sincere, somewhat accusatory like shes a quiter cause she needs to protect herself from office abuse.
Everytime someone calls, from Columbus Ohio, I remember Alex P. Keaton.
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@@abelvillarreal5383 famous show from late 80s early 90s 😅 along with famous actor who's name is Micheal LOL
In my worst experience, working in a toxic environment, even hostile. The owners slash bosses and managers do not care if you go to them for help. Time to go. My problem was I waited till things got better and it just doesn't it gets worse. In desperation I have accepted jobs with less money, but I was also happier.
Ramsey is a toxic boss
Leave on best terms possible, you leave when you have another job and you give them your two weeks and you tell them this new job is a step and you thank them.
@neal cassady I purposely got fired.... to collect ui.
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I have been trying like crazy to leave my toxic job applying to different places and no one is giving me a call back sending resumes and CV’s 😎
Its harder when your contracted to give these toxic monsters two weeks notice.
Leave like Bill Belichick left the Jets: hand your toxic boss a crumpled napkin that says I resign.
Dave's advice is very sound here.
Dave Ramsey just gave himself away here.
Look up what has been going on with the organization.
Im going through this right now same age, it’s crazy because I’m having this same problem.
Interesting asking Dave this, because I've heard more than a couple of reports of Ramsey Solutions being described as a toxic workplace
You can’t make everyone happy.
who was doing this description, the folks who were a bad fit?
I’ve heard that too
@@makeitpay8241 due to abuse apparently
@@thishappycrafter272 You will hear that about any large employer.
I greatly appreciate this!!!!
Dave is so out of touch
As are ALL Americans
Lolz youre defining america
Dave runs a private corporation of 1K +. He has a job to do, being "in touch" does not help his bottom line.
@@alinatamashevich3354 Dave is sexy
Nurse= red flag.
I am a teacher in an ES school with a similar environment. I am literally writing a resignation based on this advice right now.
How did it work out? I'm about to quit, too. Terrible environment.
@@Blessed1283 I am now the Head Band Director in an inner city middle school and I love it. Very supportive staff and admin. Not a lot of money but the kids are great. Just goes to show who you work with and how you are supported MATTERS
Welcome to health care. The Peter Principle is quite evident.
Never quit a job until you have the next one in hand. Also you never give two weeks notice an employer will never give you two weeks notice when they fire you you leave when you're ready to leave on your terms remember an employer can only verify your length of employment and your wages that you are making once you leave a job they can't say oh yeah they left me hanging because he didn't give me two weeks notice again then player would fire you today without two weeks notice why should you give them two weeks notice that's 1950s thinking
They're not supposed to but they do anyway meaning that they are only supposed to verify the length of employment but they also add a little extra sometimes if they don't like the fact that you're leaving.
You always give two weeks!
What makes you think an employer can only verify length of employment and wages? That might be policy at some companies but they can do whatever they want including disclosing anything about you and your performance that they want.
They can’t talk negatively about you! But they can word it in away that turn jobs away!
@@reese85 Wrong. They can't legally lie about you or they could be sued for slander. However if I employed you and fired you for cursing out a customer, for instance, I could, and would say so. Where are you guys getting these ideas?
Should at least put a complaint in before you leave.
I just did it today. I have suffered 2 yrs of my @sshole smoking co-workers making me sick!
This makes no sense. She probably knows someone that works for Ramsey that is thinking about quitting.
Hmm idk I’m weak I guess cus I hit my breaking point and called my boss out and the energy sucking environment
I had to end my tenure at a construction job on Sunday evening because of a series of nightmare-like days, that were bleeding over into my personal life and taking a toll on my health off-duty. The final straw was being called a "dipshit" over something that I was specifically instructed to do on Friday, over a group message, that made me feel like I was having a heart attack.
I'm glad that my exit went as smoothly as it did, and I went almost exactly by the script that was laid out here. I offered more professional courtesy than this owner likely deserved, but that's for my own pride. Same as all of the hard, skilled work that I brought to the table.
As an RN, toxic jobs are the norm and not the exception.
I personally disagree with not providing feedback when you exit. I'd rather leave a place making it better than it was especially if I have colleagues that are still there. Ignoring the problem doesn't help. I understand what Dave is saying for sure, leave and be professional but shoot, why not add some awareness? Ah well.
They don't care what you think and will not do anything to correct it. pointless waste of time especially when you were doing it all the time you were there.
They prob wouldn’t care, so I wouldn’t bother with leaving feedback
You leave your critiques while at work, not while leaving. If they never cared to listen to you while you were working, they wouldn’t care to listen as you leave. So exit interviews are useless unless you never gave your bosses an interview in the first place, in which case go ahead and say what you gotta say.
@@GrandChessboard BINGO!
@@reese85 Correct! They only do it to see if a lawsuit is on the horizon for them, nothing more.
If she transitions into a man and demands a 5 year severance package-
Kinda seems the path.
Wherever you go there you are....
Love how Dave was fairly aware his company is toxic lol
What if you cant get another job though? I've tried applying for jobs and ive gotten nothing.
great reply Ramsey, got it.
Best thing to do is find a new job and call in saying you resign effective immediately once you have a new job.
Funny I got an ad about timeshares on Dave’s video 😂
Currently dealing with this too. Fantastic insight
They didn’t ask her exactly about the leadership makes her feel the way she does. Is it the executives who own the facility she works at or is it the clinical director or head nurse that she doesn’t like.
It is almost always the immediate supervisor or one step above them. Most workers are too far removed from executive leadership to be affected by them.
It happens to the best of us...
Don't expect an alligator to be anything but an alligator. That doesn't define you, that defines them.
Perfect email:
“Dear (human resources manager),
I hereby tender my resignation from (company) effective immediately.
Sincerely,
Name”
"There is no reason to critique them on the way out. It will do no good." -The words I needed to hear.
Like if a red dress would suite Dave