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I had a call from the "small family-like company" while I was looking for work recently. They almost immediately started to complain that previous guy in this position left their "family" and they are very upset about that. I knew that there is no chance I am going to work for them but decided to amuse myself and discuss salary. After I gave them my value they told me that it is way above their limit which is 40k dollars annual. Canadian dollars.
My job is in between currently. Sometimes they make it feel like I'm a failure especially when I wanted to go take a break. They act like I know nothing which is dumb especially in my co-workers but my bosses know that I'm doing the best I can and they appreciate my work unlike some co-workers
Yup my former boss from smaller company said that to me in 2021. Company struggled financially during pandemic and made sure employees like me will report to work, when needed (no work day, no salary) I changed jobs by 2022 in govt & now happily working with people. Former boss called me in 2023 & asked me to go back with sweet promises. I declined. That insult to my performance in 2021 is clearly built on lies. I get the last laugh.
Imagine all the talent going to waste because they arent playing the right political games at work, it's pretty sad. It's almost like your performance is meaningless, the only thing that matters is who likes you... and if you don't "please" the right people you're useless to the company even if you work 13 hours a day. How did we get here?
When I drove up to the parkinglot of the place I worked, and had to sit in my car for 5 minutes to gather the strength to stand up and enter the office, I knew this place wasn't for me.
I know the feeling and I had the exact same thing going on I had to stay at the parking lot to gather the chi to enter the office, it was not worth my time, now I realize I would of been better spending my time at the street looking for a job than wasting my time hanging on to that shipwreck of a job.
You know your job is draining when: 1) Fridays feel way too good. Sunday’s are not enjoyable. 2) the drive to the work place is the worst part. 3) need the strength to get in the office. 4) every month feels like a year.
Great point. My absolute favorite time is Friday nigh when I can really relax and get a good night's sleep. Sunday around 8 PM I start getting depressed again. Probably time to leave this job.
@@Magik1369 do it mate. I did leave my shit job, and now, even tho my job is not 100% fulfilling, I don’t mind going to work, and the experience has been positive. A nice work environment, good work colleagues and a decent boss are really what we need the most.
@@trent1984 Sounds like your personality type often draws erroneous conclusions due to prrmature judgment. I have worked a few jobs and felt undervalued at most of them. I just wanted the other person to elaborate.
Lol Almost every job I've been in has been toxic. The most disappointing thing about getting into the workforce was realizing that high school never ends for a lot of people. I've never been so disappointed when I realized how immature a lot of "adults" were. The gossiping is especially a big problem and has caused so much damage to people's lives and reputations. I've had so many jobs so I can feel on the first day whether or not I'm going to come back the next day.
You hit the nail on the head , for a lot of those ass clowns high school never ends . So frustrating for the rest of us who just want to work get paid , and not be bothered with drama and bullshit .
Love, the point you make! I tell my friend, it seems your co-workers at work, were dropped off at kindergarten by their daddy and no one is there to make sure, they behave themselves. And of course, they are just like their daddy ( their boss) into all kinds of mischief. They are the bullies of the class and no one ( HR) is not stopping the behaviors, because she is the mother part of it. It's like a bad marriage, bad parenting, and the effects are their children who duplicate their childish behaviours of their parent's, name calling, gaslighting, lying and vindictiveness. The list is endless. My only hope is the walls come tumbling down on all of them and soon.
Yup. Too many "men" that think they are the hosts of that clucking chicken show called the view. Highschool needs to start ending in highschool one of these generations
A word of advice, never stay at a toxic work place "just for the money" and "until something better comes along" because over a short time the toxic people will drain you to such a point that looking for another better job is barely possible and you could end up stuck there. When you are exhausted mentally and physically and have little time outside of that workplace to apply, you could find yourself miserable amongst horrible people for months or even years. If your confidence is knocked potential employers will see this and it will go against you if you do get interviews.
I've only worked in 3 companies and the first two fit that description. I quit with no plan both times and it took weeks for me to be able to function 8n the right headspace to job hunt
I think this is why I don't stay at companies for so long because of all the drama. Even my friend was being drama and I hung up the phone tonight. All I've been interested in is reading and playing games on my phone and maybe Dawson's Creek lol
For me I was being harrassed and I was the one that almost got fired i reporeted they think I was making false accusations I also had to do other people's work and trained managers and never became a manager myself I work harder than the managers that's why sometimes I just hide in the bathroom
This happened to me. I transferred to a new department at work, remember the first week another team member quit! Since I was there for 4 months 7 more folks left, myself included. I still feel bad for leaving, as the company as whole is amazing to work for.
My boss told me last week that the only people who ever need to take mental health days are people who have poor planning and time management skills... and in that same conversation said to remember we need to have empathy...
That’s why a lot of people stay at a bad job because it could be worse somewhere else, it’s such a vicious cycle! Even working alone night shift I can’t avoid drama!
It is everywhere. Its a rare thing for a person to find the occupation where they feel at peace in their work. However, don't forget to look at yourself too. If you find that every place you land is found to be "toxic", maybe look back at yourself while examining everything else. I'm not saying that to single you out. I'm making a generaization that could apply to anyone. I don't think enough people examine themselves.
I've worked at the same place for 17 years. Why? I have a great boss. His department has no turnover. He allows us to be adults. He doesn't demand things. We know our jobs, he stays out of the way.
No one will train you or include you. You're always left out because you're the newbie. Your boss is too busy for you or avoids you. It's the suck-ups who get all the perks and opportunities. If you notice a problem and no one wants to talk about it.
Yikes! That's me in this new gig. My direct manager doesn't want to train me. But _her_ boss, the VP does. 🤔 *EDIT* - the manager handed in her letter of resignation 7/11/2021.
This all my be true however what is worse is when you are the employee who's been at a company the longest. You are treated as 1st and foremost competition. It permeates every aspect of your work day. And a boss who enjoys the "drama" and loves the divide and conquer.
Grown adults gossiping like toddlers. Bad bosses. Moving the goal post… His analysis is spot on.👏🏽 I wish I had enough money to not work for someone else and be my own boss. 🙌🏽
Co workers is one of the biggest things. They are not your friend in any manner. However you will see the clicks which could make it feel like high school.
It's more like junior high - me previous employer is like that. They promote their friends and family members that are not qualified for the job. I remember executives asked employees to post positive reviews on Glassboro because majority of the reviews are negative. Then all of suddenin two days they have tons of positive reviews. I decided to leave after the constant yearly layoffs.
I just started working at a company, and there are definitely a lot of clicks between some of the employees and the managers, a lot of nasty talk and tons of gossip, none about me, yet. I wonder if I should be wary.......
@@david-lt9wj Right. But when the time comes to move, don't allow fear or complacency to control you. Also, you can get the elevation you want also by moving companies.
I have been in the work force for 35 years. 90% of all my jobs apply to these categories. It is no wonder so many people did not want to go back to work after COVID.
It's simple, toxic people thrive in toxic environments. When they start work at a new company they will immediately identify the important people and befriend them, once that's done they will make everyone else's life a living hell. That's why toxic environments stay toxic, the horrible people are always elevated and the normal people leave after some time.
This is the very reason why I decided to work for myself. When you can feel your eyes well up with tears as soon as you pull into the parking lot, that's when you know it's time to leave that job.
@Kris Marshall.... i was taking the train to work.... being sick every morning before getting into the office.... I was so stressed out my brain was all over the place...one day watching tele i saw the news about some "tragedy" and burst into tears.... my roommates were very confused.... i quit my job after that....not worth it.
I started the job that I thought was going to be a dream job paid literally twice what I made my previous job. However what I found out was I was hired over somebody else who was the current supervisors friend. That guy made it his goal to make my life hell for about 3 months until finally my fiance said you need to start documenting everything that is going on there and I had a notebook and wrote down everything and when Review Time came up and he tried to throw me under the bus I was able to show point-by-point where he was wrong. Right after that he went on vacation and while on on vacation he put in his retirement papers and never came back. I almost left that job within the first two months I'm glad I Rode it out if that guy had not retired I would have had to go somewhere else or ended up in court with those people.
We had a toxic environment at work, until miraculously, the four employees that were causing it were gone, the first got fired for inappropriate behavior towards a client, the other three left on their own to start their own business, cannot emphasize how happy everyone is now and how productive work is, no more gossip! No more backstabbing and no more fear! We were the lucky ones
I have dealt with / witnessed some of the most ridiculous things in my career. Lying, setting other ppl up, backstabbing, blatant racism, public shaming / belittling, screaming & shouting, and ppl protecting each other from accountability. Makes such a huge difference in your mental health.
@BleuJasper-rb9eiyes really. Just to give one example, head of sales told the sales rep to give a price to a customer, figuring the regional director would allow it after the fact. When the head of sales went to the regional director to get permission to give a price at that level, the regional director said no. Head of sales then denied ever telling the sales rep to provide the price and fired her for giving a price without approval. Another time, an on-site consultant was told he was to work extra hours without additional compensation because of the color of his skin. Programmers were coerced into moving to a developing country for 2 years for a project, and take a 2/3 pay cut, or lose their jobs. Kudos to them, they all banded together and said no. A new joiner made a ppt presentation to the regional management team, her boss tore her down in front of everyone, told her work was utter crap and if she ever brought something like that again she could start looking for another job. So many examples...
My company has 20 employees... 6 of them quit in the last 2 months. Meanwhile the boss is giving us presentations about how we cant succeed if we hang around "negative people"... its sick
I'm 60, so I've been "around the block" a few times. I've worked for many companies and have done labor, to office/professional settings. Everything becomes Toxic eventually. I work for myself now. Good points/ bad points, but much less toxicity. I only piss MYSELF off now, and I can live with that!!!!
@@swirlblue4626 I've owned 3 businesses. A machine shop, a blacksmith shop, and a cleaning business. The cleaning business is the only one I considered a "success" as I still do it on the side to this day.
What he says in the video: 1-high turnover (voluntary) 2-high turnover (involuntary) 3-moving target 4-poor reviews 5-win at all cost mentality 6-work / life balance 7-dishonesty 8-going behind your back (Co-workers) 9-excessive gossip 10-bad bosses You're welcome.
It means they have inappropriate expectations and demand a level of commitment that is unhealthy. It also means you will be overworked and underpaid. It also means they will not value your free time and you’ll be getting constant calls and communications during non-work hours, days off and vacations.
Being harassed on a daily basis is a toxic work environment. At one job people knitpicked what I had for lunch. Even a yogurt was under scrutiny. Another job my coworkers were trying to match me up with another coworker. When I worked at a hair salon, my supervisor kept telling me to cut my hair because it was "too long ". It barely grazed my shoulder. My blood pressure was high for years because of these jobs.
lol. You sound like an old employment specialist I had she was the only one I loved at the mental health clinic I went to. lmao everyone else was awful but they would always say things like, "It smells like popcorn" and of course my employment specialist would roll her eyes because she was making popcorn. So annoying...just stuff like that I find so annoying also. Like I'd sit down to eat and someone would always try to talk to me..."Enjoy your lunch." I even go sick and tired of saying hello to co workers it's like can we just show up to work and not say anything? I'm good with that. lmao
@@mariahconklin4150 I agree. People could be so annoying. Another job I had people complained that it was cold in the building. Walked by shivering and rubbing their arms. Everyday the same people and the numbers steadily increasing. Recently I lost a substantial amount of weight and people keep asking me how much I weigh then say " you look smaller ". One lady keeps saying I'm going to disappear. Every week. Ugh!!
@@rominagresely526 These people who feel a need to bully their coworkers are usually extremely unhappy and insecure. Any business that keeps those people on payroll should be avoided by employees and customers alike, nothing good comes of it
match you up with another coworker? 🤣 Many years ago, a store manager said to me in front of a couple coworkers, "why don't you date this young lady?" but I think they knew we liked each other. 25 years passed since then, and we are still together.
True story: I got laid off unexpectedly after nine years. On the conference call informing me and hundreds of co-workers we were gone, I was cheering with relief. Later that night , I went to bed smiling and got the best nights sleep I'd enjoyed in a long time. I made good money, but it was foolish to remain in that environment so long. Lie is too short to put up with a miserable job.
Well, I know folks that change adult diapers for a living, not sure if they enjoy their work, but it pays the bills. Underworked and overvalued people are always worried about their feelings, not the rest of us.
@@rybald1973 I once worked for an attorney who was a narcissist and a bully. I got fired based on some trivial nonsense that supposedly happened several weeks prior (he moved to a new office and kept me on long enough to help him move all his crap to the new building, then fired me). I hated working there and I told the other employees that I felt like a cat that had just been let out of a clothes dryer.....😁😄🤣
Oh yeah. At my first part time office job as a teenager while I was attending college management pulled that garage on employees. The Director gathered us all into a circle and proceeded to rant and rave that she had heard people grumbling and we could all get up and leave ANYTME “even if you are the sole support of yourselves, a child or working to help the family make a house payment. NOBODY IN HERE IS IRREPLACEABLE)”!!! Dear Lawd those people were horrid and abusive, it was a nightmare working there and for a pittance!!! They talked garbage about people behind their back loud enough for the entire office to hear including their victim de jour. Several people reported them to HR but nobody cared.
Same here, my last manager said it out loud in our group chat: "There are so many products that will launch this week so I expect you all to work hard and produce great results. Anyone who does below my expectations will be replaced." Plus my senior was acting like a boss, used to diss me a lot. "You are so careless." "Your designs look awful, be more "professional".", "We are family, I'm looking for people who are passionate about design that he/she'd sacrifice personal time for our company." While she kept asking me to do her "Favors", on most weekly meetings, I found out that most of the designs were mine, she only designed 2 to 3 stores, while I designed 5 to 6 stores, and she even complained of my lack of "enthusiasm" to my manager. Left the job and felt free (I worked on the retail company as a Retail store designer)
I once saw a documentary with stressed out baboons. Turns out their stress levels went down after the violent baboons met with an unfortunate accident. They ate trash accidentally left out by the researchers and died of food poisoning tuberculosis. I think we can make sure that toxic people in our lives also meet with an unfortunate accident. That baboon study inspired me.
I live in England. I quitted being an employee and become a freelancer 8 years ago, best decision ever. My pay skyrocketed and I am accountable to deliver a specific result in a project, not for being 8 hours in pointless meetings smiling to people I despise. I come in cold, deliver a result, get paid and I'm out. The only challenge is you need to constantly renew your skillset and certifications, you are being paid for being special and have a wider skillset than permanent staff, so you better have a winner attitude.
I've heard for years "People don't leave jobs, they leave managers". I can speak from experience, that is true. I can't stand micro management. If you are thinking about going to a call center, be prepared for micro managing and hitting KPIs that are VERY difficult.
Not all call center are micro management. I worked in 2 of them they're not at all micro management which I was very surprised. Very layback and very professional they don't even ding us for errors or go after me about anything. And never say anything to me since I've been with the company. But yes most are micro management. My boss she isn't even close to micro management lol
@limelight81 I saw people become supervisors and suddenly people who were their peers, the supervisor had to be hard ass now because his manager held HIM to KPIs. I worked 17 years in places like that between 2 different companies. I wouldn't do even 17 hours now. Not unless I was paid $20 an hour, THEN just the 17 hours.
I worked for a manufacturing in the paint shop. New supervisor came in and it went south quick! Senior 30yrs plus quite. My lead that’s been there for 10 yrs quite. Many others quite. People coming in stay for couple of days. I quite after 5 1/2 yrs. he made me do everything while others barely did any. I said f him I’m done. Covid played a role also with my kids.
I just got fired for speaking up about unscientific laboratory practices at a childrens hospital. The reasons were the typical intangible touchy feely crap; "your tone was bad, it was the way you did it I didnt like, the other employees felt intimidated." As if my tone or the way I did it is more important than childrens healthcare. Toxic boss, toxic work environment, I feel so blessed to not work there anymore.
They used 'tone' to get you off on a technicality because it was handy. That's just dirty. And when upper mgmt has their way with things (because it's the greatest idea in the world in their eyes), you begin to notice them changing your protocol and boundaries.. they leave it to the backend people to clean / cover up the consequences.. Yes is hard to leave a livelihood but your own sanity needed it
He’s so right about dishonest coworkers and people who go behind your back. Both of the times that I worked for toxic companies, I left after coworker lies made it untenable to stay.
My husband was fired from his job because of the gossip from his coworkers. His old manager quit, and the new manager was looking for the slightest excuse to fire my husband from day 1. Then one of his coworkers started spreading false rumors in the workplace that gave the manager the excuse he needed.
Mine is a co worker that is nice helpful but at some point her personality switches and so goes up and starts accusing others in our department of doing something that of course we didn’t do. They know this but still come back and ask us if we did such and such. We’re blindsided because we are just working and know nothing about it. They tolerate it because they say she has mental issues possible multiple personalities. Sorry but that’s not my fault and growing tired of this and the boss actually let her piddle around while I had to do her work and mine too. I did this time but not again
At my last performance review , literally 80% was that someone said that I said something that was offensive 😂😂😂. I was like WTF ??? luckily I knew who made the complaints and called out the supervisor to the extent that he called in the manager just to help him navigate the situation 😂😂😂.
Never ever accept a job offer if an interviewer bad mouths any prior candidates. I took a job (because I was a bit desperate after getting fired from a previous job) and the interviewer (hiring manager) was mocking a candidate that came in before me. The department was filled with people who loved to gossip and bad mouth each other. I'm still with the company but the manager left the company, ironically because he couldn't take the toxicity of his managers.
Why would I care? There's the rub right there. Gossip if only toxic if a person cares too much about what everyone else is saying. And the weird thing is this is exactly what creates gossip. Gossip can only exist between people who care a lot about what others are saying. I would see that type of company as a possible opportunity. It doesn't take much effort to do well in a group of people who spend most of their day not working. Workers who worry about what peers are saying. Screw peers. I'll produce. The higher up in management you go the more they care about results rather than opinions. What I always looked for in a job was whether there was a way for me to stand out. For example working on a factory assembly line the job is not to stand out so there's no way to stand out. The best you can do is keep your job for 50 years.
A job I had for 3 weeks had the owner doing interviews. He started bad mouthing an employee that currently worked there. That was eyebrow raising. But I later found out a couple of things. 1) The former owner (he sold the business to the present owner) worked there pt to help out, and 2) this former owner said he owned a book on ten things to not do in running your small business. He didn't clarify what they were, only that the present owner had practically all of them in play. At the time I left, almost everything was backlogged for at least a month. Except for radio restorations. They were backlogged by 12 weeks. And they kept accepting orders. There was no cut off. How many people who actually did the work worked there : counting me, 4 plus the part timer. And you can count the general manager also; On top of everything else he had to do, he was forced to help out in the shop as well. It didn't take long to realize the owner was putting the existence of the business in jeopardy. Eventually, people will start demanding their property back simply due to backlog that was incessantly growing. Then the business name gets run into the ground and people avoid you altogether. (Antique Auto) Instrumentation was the only area that was kept mostly up to speed. You can't keep a business afloat on a single item when you're a multifaceted company.
How about a work environment that is so toxic it makes you physically sick? I had such a bad boss once that I started suffering from vertigo. I quickly planned my exit strategy, and was gone shortly thereafter. No vertigo since!
My worst employment experiences have all been with small, privately owned companies. They committed every single offense in this video plus a few more! I was even slandered on a few occasions, I suppose in an attempt to keep me there by making it impossible for me to work anywhere else. It was difficult to escape from that, but I managed, even though it severely derailed my life for a while. With hindsight I now realize I was dealing with people who had significant mental health issues. Now, when I take on new employment, if I see anything I don't like in the first 90 days, I quit. I put my employers on a 90 day probationary status! I can ALWAYS FIND ANOTHER JOB!
Working for a First Nation I never experienced anything so crazy and toxic. The turnover was unbelievable. They try to come across all caring, etc. but nothing could be further from the truth. Avoid FNs if you value your mental health.
When your employer accuses you of "not communicating." Aka not snitching on your coworkers. So many managers use this technique to pit people against each other and to gain leverage.
Early in my career I made the mistake of confiding in senior HR people. I was too naive to understand that they are usually tight with senior leadership, or even part of it, and will throw you under the bus in the blink of an eye. Never confide in internal HR people. They are there to protect company interests and the will of their bosses, not your interests, and to assume they will do what is right and fair is naive.
Very tru I just lost my job Had a psychological breakdown because my family is being torn apart Went to HR to explain my situation and i needed to leave early because i was having trouble compartmentalizing By 2:30pm i was informed i no longer have a job I made myself vulnerable and got fired for it They didnt just ruin my life They ruined my families life too because now i am going to lose my families home because i dont have the money to keep it Never make ur troubles known Never explain urself They will use it against u
I just quit my job today. Thank you for this video. Being brand new in my industry made me feel like what I was going through was normal but boy was I wrong
Sounds like my experience working for a bank. Called into a disciplinary meeting because I had "A bad attitude towards work" Turns out all I wanted was to come to work, do my job and then go home. The predatory/unethical sales strategies however were the thing that made me jump ship.
A common corporate strategy is to try to force numerous other departments to do sales work. They think this will magically increase revenue. They will also bait and switch applicants with fake jobs that they find out are really sales jobs.
I also once worked at a bank like that as a teller. They called me in a meeting and told me I had to get at least 5 new checking accounts and or savings accounts customers per MONTH. I worked as a TELLER. Cashing paychecks. In a small town of under 2000 residents. HOW in the heck am I supposed to get all these people to open accounts while working behind a counter? Obviously, the people the come in to the bank ALREADY HAD AN ACCOUNT....🙄 So I quit and went to work for a law firm as a legal secretary. And that was an even worse nightmare.
Toxic people aka" Karen's "every workplace has a minimum of 1. A lot of people act like they're the boss, those people need to act their wage. If you wantb to know who to trust? Make up something, and only tell that person, and see how fast the story travels.
I was dating a Hatian man and he never took crap from anyone. I learned to defend myself more. I always thought it’s better to stay quiet with gossipers but its better to be direct with them so they don’t bother you anymore.
I worked at an extremely toxic company for years. Every single one of the points you brought up in your video rang true. Health issues sprang up, I had a mental breakdown resulting in attempted suicide, resulting in a severe anxiety disorder diagnosis. My digestive health collapsed, resulting in IBD from the constant stress. I still have nightmares about that place. They had the gall to call me up a couple weeks ago and tell me "You're starting on Monday," without me applying to go back. and when I didn't show up on Monday, they threatened to sue me because of all the money they claimed to have invested in me, which was none. Basically they couldn't find someone to replace me, which was their own fault. Kind of happens when you have only ONE person in an entire department for years and refuse to put people in that department.
Just came across your comment, I know the exact feel. I had to quit a job due to a mental breakdown that lead to a whole range of health issues. High BP, panic attacks, suicidal thoughts, loss of appetite, depression. My workplace was one of the most toxic I had ever worked in 15 years, and from the first month I saw all the red flags but I thought "Hey, just get your experience, quit after 2 years and walk away"....and I regret not listening to my gut. Today I'm much better, however i still have anxiety issues that I need to work through. I hope you're doing much better today!
Experience that on my first job to a certain extent. From being fit and healthy, on my 3rd yr on the job, I became obese. I gained weight because of stress and over eating out of stress. Stressful coworker, boss with favoritism, pleasing clients everyday. Our boss takes more target goals than other departments to make sure our department is the most effective one. Chill other departments personnel are not over worked nor stressed out. I was living an expensive lifestyle by spending money just to comfort myself thru food. my work is 12 hrs everyday, for 5 days. Now that I already changed back, looking at that company, it makes my blood boil knowing they made me a slave for work. Never again! Work life is more important than work!
I just quit my first job 2 weeks ago , because my boss would constantly have these little disciplinary meetings for every small thing, and he would talk to me with zero respect just because I'm a fresher. I quit and he told me how I'm unprofessional for quitting in the middle
I thought I had found my dream job.....but then I found out my coworkers are just like the mean girls in high school. They would make up stories about me and go to the manager about it. I gained 20 pounds and started having health issues before I realized it was time to move on....
I'm glad you left. I used to work with people like that. These women were well over 50 years old. I'm like grow up. But, I started overachieving to give them something extra to talk about on purpose.😁 By the way, I made the production numbers high so now they actually have to work. 😇 Keep your head up, and learn how to make everything be enjoyable to you.
I had a similar experience. I gained 20kg over 3 years and developed diabetes from the stress eating. Worst thing was the "mean girls" were all around my age and to this day I still have no idea what I ever did for them all to dislike me so much. We barely ever talked to each other at work. Ended up getting fired since I was too scared to leave at the time as I was feeling pretty worthless.
@@gravyz2cute4u you getting fired was a blessing in disguise because you outgrew that place and those people. Just remember you will always be where your expectations are about yourself. You are always in Divine timing got all of your good. Keep reminding yourself that. Your not alone💖💝👏👏👏👏
@@thehappyexperience3309 Thank you so much for your kind words :) Yes it was a blessing because I have a much more secure job with better pay and nice people now ^_^ That stuff happened back in 2016 yet I am still struggling to make peace with it.
I had a manager for 17 years that loved to pit one employee against another as a way to get information. Very toxic. It took me and another guy who complained to HR before he backed off. He generally left us alone after that.
I've had 2 bosses in my career who took me out of the office to ask me to force a peer out of the company. Not shitting you. I was a software engineer and very intense. I got things done by doing what was needed. And yeah these 2 employees needed to go...but that was the manager's job, not mine. I could have done what the manager wanted and made this guys look bad, stressed them out but how is that good for me or the company? The real problem imo appeared to be the manager. So I made them look bad instead. F them, they were worthless.
My former workplace constantly audited us, and the other employees who were stupid suck-ups who would try to impress the overlords so they would bully coworkers about every tiny thing that went wrong. I almost lost my shit and slapped a coworker before of this.
I had quit an office job 2 months ago because an unprofessional coworker was jealous that I had a degree and she didn't know enough English. She has senority working at the company for 11 years. She would humiliate me and yell at me in front of the office manager. I immediately quit. It was a great deal breaker. The office manager herself didn't handle the situation. She was friends with this coworker and needed her because of her knowledge of the company. I'm sure karma would hit her back someday.
I left the most toxic company I have ever worked for a couple years ago. It was one of those "family" companies where everybody is looking for a reason to snitch on you. They'll even attempt to shoot you a Facebook friend request. All they want to do is dig into your past and find something to either gossip about or get you fired. Even though I was there for a year and a half, it felt like I had been there for more than 5 years, and NOT in a good way. In my early 30s, I started having health issues old retirees tend to have such as blood clots, a PE, other cardiopulmonary and cardiovascular issues, out of control stress related weight gain, a lower back that deteriorated so much it's been compared to an 80 year old's lower back, sciatica, and my knees are shot. It was also an extremely draining place, psychologically. Being there was like being back in high school and middle school with all the gossip and scapegoating. Crap like that is counterproductive and creates an environment of hostility. They have to constantly play propaganda videos on their internal TV network. It really felt like I was part of a cult. That company definitely puts the "cult" in culture. The CEO knows what is going on but refuses to do anything about it. He's an out of touch Boomer and won't fire any of his college buddies from positions they have no business being in. I've tried talking to him about the internal issues and he would power walk away from me. What kind of message does that send to subordinates? The guy is a total chicken s---! Oh, and a "short" work week was 70hrs. Screw that! After leaving, I spent 8 months drawing off my 401(k). I needed that much time to regather myself so I wouldn't go into the next company with a seriously negative and jaded attitude. Been at the company I work for since taking those 8 months off to get myself back together. It's an awesome place. There is no tolerance for gossip, a company owner who isn't some worthless armchair general, and most of all we're all treated like adults who have a life OUTSIDE of the workplace. The pay is real darn good, too!
Was it a warehouse or distribution environment bc that sounds very much like what I went through 5 years ago with my last employer. I still have nightmares and had to go back on antidepressants and ADHD meds to try to get through work.
This sounds like my job exactly. I am in a family company, with frequent layoffs and people leaving. I gained at least 30 lbs just from stress. It got to the point where I would get anxiety attacks at every meeting, because meetings were a place to bring people down for the smallest mistakes. I am glad I am leaving for good; I am upset about leaving my direct boss and team though☹️ they were the only saving grace of the job.
Worked for a bully of a manager. He drove my immediate manager off. I was promoted and soon understood why he had left. After a few months I finally had my fill. Told him he was a bully and had a hostile work environment. A few weeks later he hung up on me during a call. I complained to his manager and HR. Two weeks later he gave me a crappy end of year review, which I challenged, and had overturned. My group was pulled out from under him. Unfortunately, it cost me all of my political capital, and a year later, I'm taking an early out. I was told I needed to let go of the past. Management and HR downplayed everything.
I went to HR to help take down a predatory boss and immediately took my exit right after. The look of betrayal that HR gave me when I let them know I was leaving was really funny. I know if I would have stayed it would've turned on me somehow. No thanks. Goodbye.
When it comes to exit interviews, I constantly hear the advice of "Don't do it." As management will take something you say out of context or just label you as a salty sally and proceed to bad mouth you when another potential employer calls them.
"we're always hiring" is the largest red flag for me, as I worked for most major companies who advertise in that manner, they can't keep good workers to stay. I also worked one day for a company I honestly couldn't tell you what their name was..my state is popular for pop-up companies due to local business laws etc especially call center jobs
Sometimes they go on hiring binges, then realize they have over indulged, then go on firing binges. Big tech companies notorious for that of late (2002, 2003).
I quit an awesome job that I loved to death because of a bad boss that created a toxic work environment. (7/10 as per this video) videos like this helped me with job interviews and signs to look for. Now I’m in a much better place both career and as an extension, personal.
This is my situation right now. I’m finally in my dream job after 5 interviews to secure the position. Toxic outgoing staffer to train me and he created quite the smear campaign behind my back talking smack to our colleagues and (bragging about) reporting lies to managers, which they took seriously based on his testimonials. Even when managers told me about these reports and said they had no concerns about my conduct or dress, they still “brought these accusations to my attention.” As a result, I trusted no one because it seems that everyone smiled at my face but reported something negative behind my back and management took it seriously. This was an awesome job in every aspect except for the toxic and cliquey staff. Don’t miss them at all and will be extra careful in my new job to avoid these types of people.
This happened to me at my last job I ended up getting these nasty migraines that felt like bad hangovers went to the Dr. took multiple MRIs & the conclusion was STRESS. Told them to give me a raise or if walk to a competitor who would offer me more money. They didn't give me a raise so I just left. Migraines left ever since that
I had stress in my job.....they were abusing me....for years unsocial hours etc... I drew my pension then 1 week into that they bullied me...they didn't realise I had my pension... So we had a quick discussion in the office....20 minutes later I was walking offsite.happy as Larry,...they had an attitude problem..
@limelight81 it felt good that the bullies didn't win at last.they hated not having control over me.. But I'm sure they justified themselves that I was a pillock..
Mine caused anxiety to the point I would shake walking into work to clock in then shake more at my desk. About a week into abusing prescription drugs prescribed to me I knew I had to RUN. Only job I gave zero notice. Stopped abusing meds, made appointment with psychologist, they verified I wasn't crazy, started my own business, never looked back no anxiety since.
@@davidp8627 glad to hear you made the right steps buddy. One thing I ALWAYS remember now is there's nothing bad about quiting a job that does that to you. Since I was young I was taught that you need to stick it out yada yada yada. But now I've taken my health more seriously. Before I posted about my recent incident I had never returned to a job in an AG shop. The many made me feel like a real moron no matter what if do. He'd tell me to ask for advice but when I would he would rub things in my fave or laugh. So I figured that wasn't worth the shitty $12 an hr I was making. So I took all my stuff from work when I left that Friday & never returned or answered there calls. Fuck them! All that shit for $12 you can suck me sideways I'll make the same amount selling stuff in eBay
Don't normally share private things, but watching this video has been validating. I am so tired of working hard for companies and employers who do not value me and, in fact, undermine my accomplishments or skills. In my experience, fast food frequently involves workplace toxicity and poor management. I work hard and work to live. I love dealing with customers- nothing makes me happier than helping someone with lunch or dinner for themselves, friends, and family! I don't mind the job, just like how you said, "people don't quit jobs, they quit bosses". Hopefully everyone else who knows what it's like finds a better company, boss, and means of living.
Yeah, except from what I've observed, work from home is code for screwing off, walking your dog, running errands, playing with your kids, living in your pajamas, but still getting paid as if you are going into the office and being held to account and a standard. I work in the remodeling industry, so I've worked in many homes where people "work from home".
Well, that was a tour of most of my previous job environments. And part of the reason, I didn't leave the house for eight months because I could not longer face people. Run far, run fast people. If that alarm goes off and you get a knot in your stomach .... get out. Even if you have to retrain into a different sector and start from scratch (I did at 44), your mental health is worth it. Thanks for all of the videos.
Another big one I've experienced is regular threats of disciplinary action from managerial staff. I recently worked with a company who would regularly threaten staff for extremely minor infringements then got confused when figures and morale tanked. Things finally started to change when it began seriously affecting staff turnover but I'd had enough by then and quit.
Or how about the boss who says, "I should have fired you on the spot for..." (something trivial). My feeling was how come nobody fired him? Or how about the boss who is so used to being catered to he runs behind your back to tattle on you?? I get so sick of these behaviors every time I hear about them. THEY are the ones who should be fired (with poverty then nipping at their heels). Then let's see how they feel after losing their job, their car and their house (if they are lucky enough to have one), situations that they have no qualms about regularly putting the average worker through -- not to mentioned ruined credit and the consequences that brings.
Another contributor to a toxic work environment, somewhat related to your point: the expectation for your work is absolutely perfect work, with zero mistakes. How does a person exceed expectations in that job? It's logically impossible
I worked at a Assisted Living home as a receptionist, and something about it was off. No one was happy there, everyone acted like they hated their lives. The managers spent a whole lot of time in the back chatting in the clique. So we were working, while everyone was having a social hour. They gossiped about people…I just couldn’t.
Yep. I worked in a place where the boss tried to impose the norm that everybody worked 50 hours a week or more. If you accept a job that does that, make sure that the pay reflects the extra hours. Then make sure that you leave the work at the office at quitting time.
'In most cases, people quit bosses not jobs' Good leadership is so important to retain good employees. I have known many to be happier with less compensation and a great boss than the other way around. Although having the best of both would be ideal ;)
I agree 100 ! I am currently looking to leave bc my supervisor . I have a supervisor who never worked in my position . My current job is so busy that i never get a real lunch , I don’t get 6 seconds of a mental break ever , get out late all the time and the mounds of side work I have to do while scanning patients is just ridiculous. I am feeling very over whelmed . The company I work for was just on the news for being the lowest paid hospital in the area so they decided to do one of those market adjustment raises but when they gave it they took pto away from everyone to offset it. I still don’t understand why our pto was taken away just bc we got a market adjustment raise. The icing on the cake is my coworker will be out for 3 months on FMLA so my supervisor wants to stick me with a new grad. My job takes YEARS to be decent at it. I came up with some other ideas that would work much better bc I will not have time to train and watch everthing he does while having to do the million other things I have to do. This has been an awful job
@@ccalexander1924 It sounds like you are beyond working flat out... I hope you are able to help your management understand how unrealistic their expectation is... of you or anyone in this position. If not, then I hope you eventually find an opportunity that truly values your hard work, dedication and commitment. Stay strong CC Alexander.
Its what has made me leave any job if I leave it… volunteer or paid…. Bad leadership, bully leadership or inconclusive leadership roles (I dont know who is in charge)
@@Jaxmusicgal23 Good on you for not staying in a toxic situation. It can be challenging for many to make such a decision but sounds like you have it covered! All the best in your journey.
Other signs are: 1) Bad employees get rewarded/promoted over good employees. 2) Favoritism 3) Lack of leadership in management and clear communication 4) No opportunities for professional growth (like courses, training, resources, promotions, etc) 5) Sudden hyper focus on sales, metrics, PIPs and cutting costs and corners 6) "Cliques" within the company (like in highschool) 7) Old time employees leaving the company 8) Feeling like you are not valued/appreciated 9) Feeling like you can't express your concerns or bring up issues with management 10) Back stabbing co-workers One thing I've learned is that bringing up issues or concerns or even ideas and suggestions (to really toxic enviroments) is career suicide. You come off as a debbie downer, a person who complains a lot and is not grateful, and not a team player or like you don't fit the company culture. And in really toxic places, if you bring up issues you will be ignored and or reprimanded, and then ostraziced or isolated from the rest. Promotions will never happen for you, and no more opportunities to grow within the company. You will get stuck in a shitty role or even be moved to a lower position and kept there until you quit. So, it's best to keep a mental note of all the stuff you don't like and if it's too much or is affecting your health and quality of work, then it's probably a good thing to start looking for a another job and leave when possible.
Here's my contribution (not sure if already mentioned): constantly getting "it is what it is" in response to areas for improvement, issues and obstacles.
Or the "This is how we have always done it!". Means they are not open to changes that would benefit everyone in the long run cos it take some time and cost a bit.
Really simple. 1. If they aren’t paying you a competitive salary. 2. You are given a amount of work & expected to complete it at a unreasonable rate. You must leave, they won’t change & your boss won’t charge. Don’t waste your time going to HR
The going behind my back is what I’m dealing with now. All the hard work I do is constantly being overlooked. But one small thing, I catch hell over it. I’m starting to think people like this are sociopaths. They get a thrill of watching others fall by deliberately trying to sabotage them anyway they can.
Yep. Some people can light the building on fire and they’re still the prized employees but I’m not even at work the day the building burns down and somehow I’m blamed for the blaze. (Figuratively speaking - I’m not an arsonist and no where I’ve worked has burned down - it’s just an analogy)
Thank you for this amazing video. I recently left a toxic environment. Unfortunately, I only see this getting worse. I spoke with an Attorney friend (not to sue just to understand what is going on in the working world) and the way he described is that companies -- especially the large ones -- are going around breaking the law by hiring those that are protected by the law to execute their dirty work (ie female bosses being abusive to their female employees). The government needs to find a way to account for emotional abuse as one of their protected classes and soon. The future of work is very bleak, IMO.
Same. I've had horrible female bosses and I'm a female. One lady boss came to my house to threaten me. The last lady boss never showed up to work, called me on the work phone just to tell me how bad of a job I was doing and after that phone call I broke down and cried in the office. I quit that night I can't handle much any more abuse.
I was just 'let go' I think a coworker or someone was being highly critical of my work and they were being dishonest plus they would go behind my back and kept complaining about my work when there was nothing wrong with it, I cant prove who it was but I have a fare idea and I wish her all the best she wanted my job so bad.
Just passing by to say thanks. After watching this video, I decided to quit and now I have a job that makes me so happy. Nothing compared to the previous one where I was miserable. Thanks again!
I was a teacher for 30 years. In that time, I had 11 principals. 2 were good. The other 9 were very bad. This is very typical for a public school: the person leading teachers is almost always (a) a failed teacher who went into administration and (b) an unprincipled brown noser who will sell out teachers to the district administration or to unreasonable parents in the snap of a finger. This is why there's a teacher shortage and a big reason why teacher morale was so low.
My last job was so toxic that I got laid off after I complained to HR. They wanted me to work 60+ hours every week. Also I had to rate my coworkers’ performance by the end of the year, basically snitching on them, which I didn’t do and I guess it got me laid off.
Everything you said here is accurate. The place I just left hit all ten points. I wish I looked at the reviews. After only one month my health took the biggest turn for the worst I have ever seen. My psoriasis flared up on both my skin and joints & my hair is falling out. I had to leave with no exit strategy & a mortgage. It’s horrible I’m so mad because a month ago the job market was awesome, now it’s not. Don’t waste even a week at a shitty place.
I worked for a warehouse that the owner retired and the new management team came in a bunch narcissists and created a toxic environment with a revolving door of employees. It started to effect my health as I have ADHD and diebetes to the breaking point. I ended up getting a great full time job in transportation busing a job I love with a team that appreciates my work ethics and experience. I have noticed how better my health is with my sleeping and diebetic numbers. No job is worth your health
Good reminder. I HATE looking for a job, interviewing and starting over but my mental and physical health are more important than working for narcissistic bosses.
Just interviewed with a company that spent 20 min selling me on the company, and then told me I would be working 10 hours 6 days a week because they’re so busy. The position is exempt, so the salary calculated hourly plummeted. Zero work/life balance. I passed on the second interviewed.
Yup, I worked for an engineering company. I worked 50 hours from Monday to Friday. Then they started to expect us to put in 5-8 hours on a Saturday. If you refused to work Saturdays, you were tagged as not being a team player. I quit. Edit - this was a small family company too.
I started a new job and it feels too good to be true. My last job became such a sham, it ticked all the boxes of what you said. I'm trying to remember I'm not suffering there anymore, I've hit gold with my new company and job.
When I worked at a credit union, my manager regularly treated the tellers like trash. I was done after 7 months when he tried to discipline me for something that never happened. He even had the assistant manager sign off on it. I quit and wrote a letter to his boss.
I work in Japan, and my gosh the work life balance (at least in my personal experience) is nearly nonexistent, and overwork equals a good worker because the individual pursues the growth of company skills over a healthy balance. I’ve felt insecure about not being ‘tough enough’ to push doing the work, but I’m glad this video brought back my confidence in believing that having a work life balance IS healthy. ( I feel crazy having to type this out)
I was in Japan for vacation and during breakfast in a hotel saw people going to work from a railway station past our hotel. OMG! Prisoners in German concentration camps looked happier. Wishing you the Best of Luck to survive 🫂
@@MauiTheBengalCatthank you very much for your kind message. I’m still surviving somehow, lots of things have changed since I wrote this but I won’t lie, I think the core principle of overworker = good worker hasn’t really changed. I’ve gotten shamed for spending my free time but I’ve gotten over the bullying. Still not sure how long I plan to stay in Japan but if anything it’s quite the challenging work experience that has hopefully toughened me up for other corporate work environments. I hope you guys had a restful vacation!
@@AryaDeVil_EN Stay strong in your spirit and believe in yourself no matter how the environment would want to enslave you. I heard similar stories happening in other countries - the most noble thing to die while working... My young colleagues did pass away from overwork. Wishing you strength, patience and possibly better routes in work. 🥰😍🤩
The problem with reviews is that companies tell their employees to add great reviews. Experienced this first hand and really tricks people outside of the industry
The most toxic environment I've ever worked in was in childcare/daycare/preschool. Gossip. Bad mouthing center directors. Watching children be bullied and neglected by adults. Teachers who felt the need to know everyone's business. If you weren't of the same background of the majority of the staff, you'd be treated with no respect. After working in several childcare facilities in the span of two years, I made the decision to change careers. All the stress I suffered due to toxic environments lead to me having health problems.
I'm deeply sorry what you want through. I knew a man that work for a company 40yrs truck assembe company, he lost most of his memories he's assign to one area, it's serious
That’s cuz you likely were working with all women. When there are no men around women show their fangs constantly. Nothing better to do than find all the things in other people that make them unhappy with their boring loser lives
Just about everything you listed was my last job. And it was the owner of the company who was this biggest issue. He was terrible. I was a manager and he treated me like crap and even did so in front of my team. He put me on a PIP and told me to go to therapy. When I quit within weeks my entire team quit. They continue to have high turnover over and I soon look for them to be out of business. When I am now is an incredible blessing and I could not be happier. I had to go through years of bad work environments and bad bosses to experience the good.
My very first job almost made me feel suicidal. I felt sick every morning heading to work, I would dread Sunday evenings. I worried that all workplaces were like that, that this was just how it was and I would have to get used to it. On my first day at work, the boss was screaming at this one guy, telling him he was an idiot and how he was so close to getting fired. It was quite terrifying but I thought perhaps it was a one-off occurrence. That wasn't the case at all! Almost daily someone would get shouted at, the whole office listening in quietly. It was a small company, the MD was a bully and a pervert. The girl that trained me had only been at the job for 4 weeks and her answer to my questions was to ask someone else if I didn't understand something. I stayed there far too long as I needed the work experience and money but it was soul-destroying. Thankfully, since then I've been lucky. Have worked with some excellent managers, really supportive, encouraging and positive. Some of my coworkers have been a right pain, but on the whole, I can't complain.
I was working an office job while I was going through massage school. Talk about a toxic environment. I was constantly belittled by my gossipy coworkers, and ignored by the constantly changing office manager. The only reason I powered through was because I knew I could get out as soon as I had my license.
Not sure if my workplace qualifies as toxic, but I did notice at least one thing in this video that might qualify: Dishonesty. There seems to be a trend in my workplace where the workhorses(aka the people that get things done) are told they are doing a great job, glad that they are there, ect. But when it comes down to time for raises, promotion ect, despite still being told they are doing great, they still get passed over. Now I'm wondering if it's worth it to try and change the culture, or should I just move on.
@Mocha Reads 777 I learned that the hard way as well. The craft guys make nearly double what I do and didn't have to pay on student loans for 10 years.
@ghost mall That's what I noticed. My employers don't cultivate the leadership skills in their most productive employees. I've been passed over by people hired from outside the company with inferior resumes, multiple times. I've received the "so sorry, we'll keep you in mind speech" numerous times that it's made me disgruntled.
The dishonesty part has really gotten out of hand. I caught my employers and coworkers lying and manipulating so much that I simply couldn't keep up fighting mental games with them and working at the same time.
I was always able to avoid gossip by being “oblivious”. Most of the time things like gossip do go right over my head, but I do hear some of it, but I soon got the reputation of being oblivious, and management didn’t ask me about it anymore.
It's good to hear someone cover this topic, it doesn't get enough attention. Often people assume it is the individual that is that is the problem (sometimes it is), but i have witnessed a lot of egregious behavior over the years (and often it is from employees and not the management). I have worked in enough jobs to see the company culture varies a Lot. there is a developer that has a channel and he tends to focus only on the negative aspects of corporate culture (all jobs have their challenges). But realize that MOST jobs do not last anymore, do not get too comfortable and wrap your identity around the company you work for. What I like about today is there are many permanent work from home jobs now. In the past, it was only sales or specialized computer programming jobs that were remote (and that was because companies couldn't find a local candidate, they were forced to allow developers to work from home).
"Think about what's best for your career"?? OR think about what's best for your mental health better because NO JOB as lucrative as it is is not worth it when it comes to one's own mental health. If only I had considered this thought years ago.
I saw a review of my old office, where: -People showed up at dawn and worked until evening, including Sat and/or Sun -A manager for 12 years simply walked out -An employee was vomiting due to the stress of impossible deadlines -Frequent interruptions and meetings re: those deadlines
I am happy I found your Channel! I am in a very TOXIC work environment. I am new and I found they treat all employees poorly. They give us enough work for 12 hours a day for 7 days a week and barely pay us for 35 hours, no overtime, no compensation for working the extra hours. The job cannot be finished in normal work hours. Co is UNDERSTAFFED. Their expectations are UNREALISTIC. illegally I was told NOT to enter my overtime. That is snake oil.
I was a grocery slave for over 17 years, so I highly agree with this. It’s been about three years since I left the awful grocery world and it still occasionally gives me nightmares. 🤣
gossip is huge at my workplace, i hate gossip so much. i try my absolute hardest to stray from gossip i’ve only ever talked to someone about how i didn’t like how someone was treating me and always felt guilty after “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over”. i really need to pray for more courage and boldness dealing with people and problems face to face. shut things down and not dwell
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10 signs you're in a toxic work environment
1) You're watching a video to see whether your work environment qualifies lol
Hahahahaha shots fired! Yes… we may all need to reflect to see if we need to make some better choices.
It does 😹
Yupppp 😔 and it was confirmed.
Not anymore. I came here from the "signs you're going to get fired" video.
😂🤣
I also found working for a small/medium sized "family company" is a horrible experience.
I had a call from the "small family-like company" while I was looking for work recently. They almost immediately started to complain that previous guy in this position left their "family" and they are very upset about that. I knew that there is no chance I am going to work for them but decided to amuse myself and discuss salary. After I gave them my value they told me that it is way above their limit which is 40k dollars annual. Canadian dollars.
@@vooo1314 You are absolutely right. Joshua Fluke's channel addresses this a lot.
Same here bro same here
@@vooo1314 Yes, and I am tired of them wanting a "high-energy" employee. What is that -- a young employee?
it absolutely is.
"Being made to feel like a failure in a job you've otherwise been very effective in" - Nailed it right on the head, the exact issue at my last job.
My job is in between currently. Sometimes they make it feel like I'm a failure especially when I wanted to go take a break. They act like I know nothing which is dumb especially in my co-workers but my bosses know that I'm doing the best I can and they appreciate my work unlike some co-workers
Kabam, me, too! Ugh!
Yup my former boss from smaller company said that to me in 2021.
Company struggled financially during pandemic and made sure employees like me will report to work, when needed
(no work day, no salary)
I changed jobs by 2022 in govt & now happily working with people.
Former boss called me in 2023 & asked me to go back with sweet promises.
I declined.
That insult to my performance in 2021 is clearly built on lies. I get the last laugh.
Imagine all the talent going to waste because they arent playing the right political games at work, it's pretty sad. It's almost like your performance is meaningless, the only thing that matters is who likes you... and if you don't "please" the right people you're useless to the company even if you work 13 hours a day. How did we get here?
@@BillClinton228 it is like high school all over again. Be popular to the right people and performance is not appreciated in the WRONG COMPANY.
When I drove up to the parkinglot of the place I worked, and had to sit in my car for 5 minutes to gather the strength to stand up and enter the office, I knew this place wasn't for me.
I feel your pain.
That says so much..
I know the feeling and I had the exact same thing going on I had to stay at the parking lot to gather the chi to enter the office, it was not worth my time, now I realize I would of been better spending my time at the street looking for a job than wasting my time hanging on to that shipwreck of a job.
I had the same problem!!!!
Same. I recently did this, not even 6 months yet at my current job.
Currently job hunting.
ALWAYS ask the interviewer how they train new employees. Is there documentation? Is there a training plan at all? If not, take this as a HUGE red flag
Your 100% correct. This is what I’m learning now.
OH my yes! Wish I would have learned this 60 days ago when I accepted my current job.
I’m gonna store this in my brain somewhere
1000% - shoutout to all who had to learn the hard way
very accurate thanks
You know your job is draining when:
1) Fridays feel way too good. Sunday’s are not enjoyable.
2) the drive to the work place is the worst part.
3) need the strength to get in the office.
4) every month feels like a year.
Great point. My absolute favorite time is Friday nigh when I can really relax and get a good night's sleep. Sunday around 8 PM I start getting depressed again. Probably time to leave this job.
@@Magik1369 do it mate. I did leave my shit job, and now, even tho my job is not 100% fulfilling, I don’t mind going to work, and the experience has been positive. A nice work environment, good work colleagues and a decent boss are really what we need the most.
Facts
"You want to find companies that will actually value you."
So none of them.
You don't think companies value employees?
So very true
@@lifestraight sounds like you have never had a job
@@trent1984 Sounds like your personality type often draws erroneous conclusions due to prrmature judgment. I have worked a few jobs and felt undervalued at most of them. I just wanted the other person to elaborate.
This cracked me up. It's so true!
Lol Almost every job I've been in has been toxic. The most disappointing thing about getting into the workforce was realizing that high school never ends for a lot of people. I've never been so disappointed when I realized how immature a lot of "adults" were. The gossiping is especially a big problem and has caused so much damage to people's lives and reputations. I've had so many jobs so I can feel on the first day whether or not I'm going to come back the next day.
You hit the nail on the head , for a lot of those ass clowns high school never ends . So frustrating for the rest of us who just want to work get paid , and not be bothered with drama and bullshit .
Love, the point you make! I tell my friend, it seems your co-workers at work, were dropped off at kindergarten by their daddy and no one is there to make sure, they behave themselves. And of course, they are just like their daddy ( their boss) into all kinds of mischief. They are the bullies of the class and no one ( HR) is not stopping the behaviors, because she is the mother part of it. It's like a bad marriage, bad parenting, and the effects are their children who duplicate their childish behaviours of their parent's, name calling, gaslighting, lying and vindictiveness. The list is endless. My only hope is the walls come tumbling down on all of them and soon.
It's almost like YOU need to grow up, ignore the gossip and just do your fkn job.
Welcome to the workforce full of women...
Yup. Too many "men" that think they are the hosts of that clucking chicken show called the view. Highschool needs to start ending in highschool one of these generations
A word of advice, never stay at a toxic work place "just for the money" and "until something better comes along" because over a short time the toxic people will drain you to such a point that looking for another better job is barely possible and you could end up stuck there. When you are exhausted mentally and physically and have little time outside of that workplace to apply, you could find yourself miserable amongst horrible people for months or even years. If your confidence is knocked potential employers will see this and it will go against you if you do get interviews.
I've only worked in 3 companies and the first two fit that description.
I quit with no plan both times and it took weeks for me to be able to function 8n the right headspace to job hunt
@@gninja92You won't find out the full effect a place has had on you until you leave there. Definitely best to get out as quickly as possible.
That's pretty much what's happened to me and I am having to fight my way into having enough energy to look for new work.
I think this is why I don't stay at companies for so long because of all the drama. Even my friend was being drama and I hung up the phone tonight. All I've been interested in is reading and playing games on my phone and maybe Dawson's Creek lol
100% correct that was the mistake made
If you feel despair on Sunday night, knowing you have to go to work tomorrow, you work in a toxic workplace.
I know what you mean
And when the weekend always seems to fly by
It's like a countdown to anxiety- or an anxiety rush approaching
Yeh defo
Or if you're up all night on Friday wondering how to get out and report these things...
That's the ultimate red flag.
Worse if you worked the weekend and have it again tomorrow
dishonesty, gossip, and going behind your back are, in my experience, a package deal
So true 👍
For me I was being harrassed and I was the one that almost got fired i reporeted they think I was making false accusations I also had to do other people's work and trained managers and never became a manager myself I work harder than the managers that's why sometimes I just hide in the bathroom
Mentally and emotionally, most people never leave high school. That's why it is almost inevitable that every workplace will be non-stop drama.
Yes. They all compliment each other.
Correct, some workers even talk about someone knowing they can hear they are gossiping about you.
Staff turnover is usually a good indication. If its a toxic work place people don't tend to stay very long
This happened to me. I transferred to a new department at work, remember the first week another team member quit! Since I was there for 4 months 7 more folks left, myself included. I still feel bad for leaving, as the company as whole is amazing to work for.
#1: they dismiss your concerns about your mental health but then tell you you need to smile more.
My boss told me last week that the only people who ever need to take mental health days are people who have poor planning and time management skills... and in that same conversation said to remember we need to have empathy...
@@korratheaustralianshepherd5804 Slap that smile on your face while you run for the hills!
Your mental health is no one's problem but your own. Stop expecting anyone else to care or accommodate you
@@nonameshere1592 nobody owes you anything
A colleague of mine was crying during work, and our supervisor told him that it's unprofessional and not acceptable. Absolutely crazy.
unfortunately this is becoming the norm nowadays, don't ever be loyal to a company its just work for a living
Corporations don't care if you're sick or hurt
Neither do some employers of a small business.
Exactly
It's modern day slavery again with minimum wage and rising costs.
Most people started from the bottom
I’ve left jobs because of drama and toxic environments only to go into another toxic situation… it’s everywhere! I hate it.
That’s why a lot of people stay at a bad job because it could be worse somewhere else, it’s such a vicious cycle! Even working alone night shift I can’t avoid drama!
It is everywhere.
Its a rare thing for a person to find the occupation where they feel at peace in their work.
However, don't forget to look at yourself too.
If you find that every place you land is found to be "toxic", maybe look back at yourself while examining everything else.
I'm not saying that to single you out. I'm making a generaization that could apply to anyone.
I don't think enough people examine themselves.
same
I've worked at the same place for 17 years. Why? I have a great boss. His department has no turnover. He allows us to be adults. He doesn't demand things. We know our jobs, he stays out of the way.
You're very lucky in having a boss for so long who cares for his workers.
Where can I apply ? 😊
Same man maybe cuz my boss was in the military but he still pretty cool just tells us what to do and let’s us be
You are inthe minority, kudos to you🎉
I had a couple of good bosses like that and looking back the bosses weren't as bad as some.
No one will train you or include you. You're always left out because you're the newbie. Your boss is too busy for you or avoids you. It's the suck-ups who get all the perks and opportunities. If you notice a problem and no one wants to talk about it.
This
Oh no you pretty much described my workplace
That's what happened to me
Yikes! That's me in this new gig. My direct manager doesn't want to train me. But _her_ boss, the VP does. 🤔
*EDIT* - the manager handed in her letter of resignation 7/11/2021.
This all my be true however what is worse is when you are the employee who's been at a company the longest. You are treated as 1st and foremost competition. It permeates every aspect of your work day. And a boss who enjoys the "drama" and loves the divide and conquer.
Grown adults gossiping like toddlers. Bad bosses. Moving the goal post…
His analysis is spot on.👏🏽
I wish I had enough money to not work for someone else and be my own boss. 🙌🏽
if i ever have a businesss and people in it, i will run it fucking fair. and these highschool adults would be seriously reprimanded there
You described my last job, glad I’m no longer their
Amen!!!!!¡.
Agreed
Moving the goal post spot on
Co workers is one of the biggest things. They are not your friend in any manner. However you will see the clicks which could make it feel like high school.
It's more like junior high - me previous employer is like that. They promote their friends and family members that are not qualified for the job. I remember executives asked employees to post positive reviews on Glassboro because majority of the reviews are negative. Then all of suddenin two days they have tons of positive reviews. I decided to leave after the constant yearly layoffs.
I just started working at a company, and there are definitely a lot of clicks between some of the employees and the managers, a lot of nasty talk and tons of gossip, none about me, yet. I wonder if I should be wary.......
@@Silver77cyn lol I'm sure they're gossiping behind your back. I used to work in an environment like that.
@@keosarin00 Yes. 7th Grade behavior.
Yes the most uninteresting and bland people do the most cliquery
Always be prepared to move companies. Do not remain in a toxic stew for too long - extricate yourself and run for freeedom!
Never stop searching for a job.
I suppose the old adage, quitters don't win, winners don't quit don't apply in this case. I think there's no perfect company.
Run for freedom too much and you won’t get any decent career elevation...
@@david-lt9wj Right. But when the time comes to move, don't allow fear or complacency to control you. Also, you can get the elevation you want also by moving companies.
@@lenac3587 It is important to manage your own career and not rely on your employer to do it for you.
I have been in the work force for 35 years. 90% of all my jobs apply to these categories. It is no wonder so many people did not want to go back to work after COVID.
I was eager to get back to work after covid, I had to leave because where I was working was forcing the poke and I was not having none of that.
@@musicmusic6788 smart.
F work
@@watchinvidzwatchinvidz7691 No kidding. I'm just done at this point.
It's simple, toxic people thrive in toxic environments. When they start work at a new company they will immediately identify the important people and befriend them, once that's done they will make everyone else's life a living hell.
That's why toxic environments stay toxic, the horrible people are always elevated and the normal people leave after some time.
This is the very reason why I decided to work for myself. When you can feel your eyes well up with tears as soon as you pull into the parking lot, that's when you know it's time to leave that job.
@Kris Marshall.... i was taking the train to work.... being sick every morning before getting into the office.... I was so stressed out my brain was all over the place...one day watching tele i saw the news about some "tragedy" and burst into tears.... my roommates were very confused.... i quit my job after that....not worth it.
THIS !
Now your customers are your boss.
honestly, thats alittle behind enemy lines for me. if i dread going there , i go away. resultant, i dont want to go anywhere.
I started the job that I thought was going to be a dream job paid literally twice what I made my previous job. However what I found out was I was hired over somebody else who was the current supervisors friend. That guy made it his goal to make my life hell for about 3 months until finally my fiance said you need to start documenting everything that is going on there and I had a notebook and wrote down everything and when Review Time came up and he tried to throw me under the bus I was able to show point-by-point where he was wrong. Right after that he went on vacation and while on on vacation he put in his retirement papers and never came back. I almost left that job within the first two months I'm glad I Rode it out if that guy had not retired I would have had to go somewhere else or ended up in court with those people.
We had a toxic environment at work, until miraculously, the four employees that were causing it were gone, the first got fired for inappropriate behavior towards a client, the other three left on their own to start their own business, cannot emphasize how happy everyone is now and how productive work is, no more gossip! No more backstabbing and no more fear! We were the lucky ones
You are lucky!
Wow
@limelight81 team of one 😭😭😭
@limelight81 "it takes one spoiled grape to turn wine into vinegar" vinification class
That's a pretty nice outcome man. Some never leave!
I have dealt with / witnessed some of the most ridiculous things in my career. Lying, setting other ppl up, backstabbing, blatant racism, public shaming / belittling, screaming & shouting, and ppl protecting each other from accountability. Makes such a huge difference in your mental health.
Sounds like my current job.
@BleuJasper-rb9eiyes really. Just to give one example, head of sales told the sales rep to give a price to a customer, figuring the regional director would allow it after the fact. When the head of sales went to the regional director to get permission to give a price at that level, the regional director said no. Head of sales then denied ever telling the sales rep to provide the price and fired her for giving a price without approval.
Another time, an on-site consultant was told he was to work extra hours without additional compensation because of the color of his skin.
Programmers were coerced into moving to a developing country for 2 years for a project, and take a 2/3 pay cut, or lose their jobs. Kudos to them, they all banded together and said no.
A new joiner made a ppt presentation to the regional management team, her boss tore her down in front of everyone, told her work was utter crap and if she ever brought something like that again she could start looking for another job.
So many examples...
Could be the National Health Service!
Sounds like my former job.
My company has 20 employees... 6 of them quit in the last 2 months. Meanwhile the boss is giving us presentations about how we cant succeed if we hang around "negative people"... its sick
I'm 60, so I've been "around the block" a few times. I've worked for many companies and have done labor, to office/professional settings. Everything becomes Toxic eventually. I work for myself now. Good points/ bad points, but much less toxicity. I only piss MYSELF off now, and I can live with that!!!!
I'm struggling to find the right "work for myself" job.
@@swirlblue4626 I've owned 3 businesses. A machine shop, a blacksmith shop, and a cleaning business. The cleaning business is the only one I considered a "success" as I still do it on the side to this day.
Lmaoooo 😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂
@@thebeesknees745 that’s dope 💯🤞🏾‼️✊🏾
That’s mostly true I had that experience at every job except working for my Uncle ☺️
What he says in the video:
1-high turnover (voluntary)
2-high turnover (involuntary)
3-moving target
4-poor reviews
5-win at all cost mentality
6-work / life balance
7-dishonesty
8-going behind your back (Co-workers)
9-excessive gossip
10-bad bosses
You're welcome.
Glassdoor and Indeed doesn't allow you to read the reviews unless you post your review.
Except that there’s already time stamps on the video.
I'd add skirting the limits of the law.
@@phishhead231 I don’t think he had it when I posted this , I might be wrong 🤷♂️
My job last year had 6 out of 10 of these traits. Make sense why I was laid off. Lol. I was glad to go.
Be wary of management that tries to call you family. It means they expect you to do things only family members would.
Yep, when the boss is called "Larry" run. Run as fast as you can and don't look back.
It means they have inappropriate expectations and demand a level of commitment that is unhealthy. It also means you will be overworked and underpaid. It also means they will not value your free time and you’ll be getting constant calls and communications during non-work hours, days off and vacations.
I am 55 and NEVER worked for a company that cared about me or my professional development.
I think it depends on your career also
So pretty your saying this is normal?
Yes
No leaders, just a bunch of bosses
Are you a welder too?
This is a warning before taking a job, but if they say "we're like a family here"....RUN.
@@itsmeheathermarie fast and hard!!
Or say..... like family... like the Manson family
@@kevin2400 LOL!
Being harassed on a daily basis is a toxic work environment. At one job people knitpicked what I had for lunch. Even a yogurt was under scrutiny. Another job my coworkers were trying to match me up with another coworker. When I worked at a hair salon, my supervisor kept telling me to cut my hair because it was "too long ". It barely grazed my shoulder. My blood pressure was high for years because of these jobs.
lol. You sound like an old employment specialist I had she was the only one I loved at the mental health clinic I went to. lmao everyone else was awful but they would always say things like, "It smells like popcorn" and of course my employment specialist would roll her eyes because she was making popcorn. So annoying...just stuff like that I find so annoying also. Like I'd sit down to eat and someone would always try to talk to me..."Enjoy your lunch." I even go sick and tired of saying hello to co workers it's like can we just show up to work and not say anything? I'm good with that. lmao
omg that was my first job Fantastic Sam's as a receptionist and I hated it.
@@mariahconklin4150 I agree. People could be so annoying. Another job I had people complained that it was cold in the building. Walked by shivering and rubbing their arms. Everyday the same people and the numbers steadily increasing. Recently I lost a substantial amount of weight and people keep asking me how much I weigh then say " you look smaller ". One lady keeps saying I'm going to disappear. Every week. Ugh!!
@@rominagresely526 These people who feel a need to bully their coworkers are usually extremely unhappy and insecure. Any business that keeps those people on payroll should be avoided by employees and customers alike, nothing good comes of it
match you up with another coworker? 🤣 Many years ago, a store manager said to me in front of a couple coworkers, "why don't you date this young lady?" but I think they knew we liked each other. 25 years passed since then, and we are still together.
True story: I got laid off unexpectedly after nine years. On the conference call informing me and hundreds of co-workers we were gone, I was cheering with relief. Later that night , I went to bed smiling and got the best nights sleep I'd enjoyed in a long time. I made good money, but it was foolish to remain in that environment so long. Lie is too short to put up with a miserable job.
True 🙏🙏🥺
Well, I know folks that change adult diapers for a living, not sure if they enjoy their work, but it pays the bills. Underworked and overvalued people are always worried about their feelings, not the rest of us.
15 years in one job and when I was fired, I felt a weight had been removed from my shoulders.
@@rybald1973 I once worked for an attorney who was a narcissist and a bully. I got fired based on some trivial nonsense that supposedly happened several weeks prior (he moved to a new office and kept me on long enough to help him move all his crap to the new building, then fired me). I hated working there and I told the other employees that I felt like a cat that had just been let out of a clothes dryer.....😁😄🤣
@Reese Daniel all attorneys are narcsissts
My last job had a saying.... Everyone is replaceable. And they made sure you knew it. I still have nightmares 5 years later.
Oh yeah. At my first part time office job as a teenager while I was attending college management pulled that garage on employees. The Director gathered us all into a circle and proceeded to rant and rave that she had heard people grumbling and we could all get up and leave ANYTME “even if you are the sole support of yourselves, a child or working to help the family make a house payment. NOBODY IN HERE IS IRREPLACEABLE)”!!! Dear Lawd those people were horrid and abusive, it was a nightmare working there and for a pittance!!! They talked garbage about people behind their back loud enough for the entire office to hear including their victim de jour. Several people reported them to HR but nobody cared.
@@lisamarielund6292 no, HR wouldn't care bc they're there to protect the employer. I hate office politics and cattiness and gossip and drama so much.
"Everyone is replaceable"... EVEN THE BOSS. That part they always forget to write.
Same here, my last manager said it out loud in our group chat: "There are so many products that will launch this week so I expect you all to work hard and produce great results. Anyone who does below my expectations will be replaced." Plus my senior was acting like a boss, used to diss me a lot. "You are so careless." "Your designs look awful, be more "professional".", "We are family, I'm looking for people who are passionate about design that he/she'd sacrifice personal time for our company." While she kept asking me to do her "Favors", on most weekly meetings, I found out that most of the designs were mine, she only designed 2 to 3 stores, while I designed 5 to 6 stores, and she even complained of my lack of "enthusiasm" to my manager. Left the job and felt free (I worked on the retail company as a Retail store designer)
I once saw a documentary with stressed out baboons. Turns out their stress levels went down after the violent baboons met with an unfortunate accident. They ate trash accidentally left out by the researchers and died of food poisoning tuberculosis.
I think we can make sure that toxic people in our lives also meet with an unfortunate accident. That baboon study inspired me.
I live in England. I quitted being an employee and become a freelancer 8 years ago, best decision ever. My pay skyrocketed and I am accountable to deliver a specific result in a project, not for being 8 hours in pointless meetings smiling to people I despise. I come in cold, deliver a result, get paid and I'm out. The only challenge is you need to constantly renew your skillset and certifications, you are being paid for being special and have a wider skillset than permanent staff, so you better have a winner attitude.
I've heard for years "People don't leave jobs, they leave managers". I can speak from experience, that is true. I can't stand micro management. If you are thinking about going to a call center, be prepared for micro managing and hitting KPIs that are VERY difficult.
Not all call center are micro management. I worked in 2 of them they're not at all micro management which I was very surprised. Very layback and very professional they don't even ding us for errors or go after me about anything. And never say anything to me since I've been with the company. But yes most are micro management. My boss she isn't even close to micro management lol
@limelight81 I saw people become supervisors and suddenly people who were their peers, the supervisor had to be hard ass now because his manager held HIM to KPIs. I worked 17 years in places like that between 2 different companies. I wouldn't do even 17 hours now. Not unless I was paid $20 an hour, THEN just the 17 hours.
Call Centers are Modern day Sweat shops!
I worked for a manufacturing in the paint shop. New supervisor came in and it went south quick! Senior 30yrs plus quite. My lead that’s been there for 10 yrs quite. Many others quite. People coming in stay for couple of days. I quite after 5 1/2 yrs. he made me do everything while others barely did any. I said f him I’m done. Covid played a role also with my kids.
I believe it is called, "Firing the boss."
I just got fired for speaking up about unscientific laboratory practices at a childrens hospital. The reasons were the typical intangible touchy feely crap; "your tone was bad, it was the way you did it I didnt like, the other employees felt intimidated." As if my tone or the way I did it is more important than childrens healthcare. Toxic boss, toxic work environment, I feel so blessed to not work there anymore.
This is a lot more common than you think. Science is tainted with greed.
Wow! commend you for walking away from that
I feel you. Left the toxicity before. They fired me. I was terrified how i was gonna feed my kids. It was awful
They used 'tone' to get you off on a technicality because it was handy. That's just dirty.
And when upper mgmt has their way with things (because it's the greatest idea in the world in their eyes), you begin to notice them changing your protocol and boundaries.. they leave it to the backend people to clean / cover up the consequences.. Yes is hard to leave a livelihood but your own sanity needed it
NEVER stop your job search.
He’s so right about dishonest coworkers and people who go behind your back. Both of the times that I worked for toxic companies, I left after coworker lies made it untenable to stay.
Sounds like he was talking about the company I work for
My husband was fired from his job because of the gossip from his coworkers. His old manager quit, and the new manager was looking for the slightest excuse to fire my husband from day 1. Then one of his coworkers started spreading false rumors in the workplace that gave the manager the excuse he needed.
Mine is a co worker that is nice helpful but at some point her personality switches and so goes up and starts accusing others in our department of doing something that of course we didn’t do. They know this but still come back and ask us if we did such and such. We’re blindsided because we are just working and know nothing about it. They tolerate it because they say she has mental issues possible multiple personalities. Sorry but that’s not my fault and growing tired of this and the boss actually let her piddle around while I had to do her work and mine too. I did this time but not again
@@blackdragoness21sounds familiar
At my last performance review , literally 80% was that someone said that I said something that was offensive 😂😂😂.
I was like WTF ???
luckily I knew who made the complaints and called out the supervisor to the extent that he called in the manager just to help him navigate the situation 😂😂😂.
Never ever accept a job offer if an interviewer bad mouths any prior candidates. I took a job (because I was a bit desperate after getting fired from a previous job) and the interviewer (hiring manager) was mocking a candidate that came in before me. The department was filled with people who loved to gossip and bad mouth each other. I'm still with the company but the manager left the company, ironically because he couldn't take the toxicity of his managers.
Why would I care? There's the rub right there. Gossip if only toxic if a person cares too much about what everyone else is saying. And the weird thing is this is exactly what creates gossip. Gossip can only exist between people who care a lot about what others are saying. I would see that type of company as a possible opportunity. It doesn't take much effort to do well in a group of people who spend most of their day not working. Workers who worry about what peers are saying. Screw peers. I'll produce. The higher up in management you go the more they care about results rather than opinions. What I always looked for in a job was whether there was a way for me to stand out. For example working on a factory assembly line the job is not to stand out so there's no way to stand out. The best you can do is keep your job for 50 years.
@@MrWaterbugdesign Gossip can stunt another employees growth within the company, that’s why you should care.
Never take a girlfriend if she badmouths the last beau...
@@Lauren-ub7ih Exactly. I'm going through this now with the company I work at.
A job I had for 3 weeks had the owner doing interviews. He started bad mouthing an employee that currently worked there. That was eyebrow raising. But I later found out a couple of things. 1) The former owner (he sold the business to the present owner) worked there pt to help out, and 2) this former owner said he owned a book on ten things to not do in running your small business. He didn't clarify what they were, only that the present owner had practically all of them in play. At the time I left, almost everything was backlogged for at least a month. Except for radio restorations. They were backlogged by 12 weeks. And they kept accepting orders. There was no cut off. How many people who actually did the work worked there : counting me, 4 plus the part timer. And you can count the general manager also; On top of everything else he had to do, he was forced to help out in the shop as well. It didn't take long to realize the owner was putting the existence of the business in jeopardy. Eventually, people will start demanding their property back simply due to backlog that was incessantly growing. Then the business name gets run into the ground and people avoid you altogether. (Antique Auto) Instrumentation was the only area that was kept mostly up to speed. You can't keep a business afloat on a single item when you're a multifaceted company.
How about a work environment that is so toxic it makes you physically sick? I had such a bad boss once that I started suffering from vertigo. I quickly planned my exit strategy, and was gone shortly thereafter. No vertigo since!
This might be me.. randomly dizzy, brain fog, poor memory. Just quit last night. Guess I'll know soon if I need to see a doctor 😅
I suffered from laryngitis for four months due to bad boss
I have a rule that if my stomach sinks in the morning when I think about going to work, I immediately start looking for something else.
Having dry heaves in the parking lot before heading into the office each day was my red flag. I wish I had extricated myself sooner.
I suffer from extreme vertigo that usually shows up when I'm under significant stress. Your body is telling you something. :)
My worst employment experiences have all been with small, privately owned companies. They committed every single offense in this video plus a few more! I was even slandered on a few occasions, I suppose in an attempt to keep me there by making it impossible for me to work anywhere else. It was difficult to escape from that, but I managed, even though it severely derailed my life for a while. With hindsight I now realize I was dealing with people who had significant mental health issues. Now, when I take on new employment, if I see anything I don't like in the first 90 days, I quit. I put my employers on a 90 day probationary status! I can ALWAYS FIND ANOTHER JOB!
Big companies are just collections of small companies called "departments." The same kind of crap goes on there also.
Most companies put their new employees on a probationary period, why not put them on one too?
@@KameraShyagreed. Large companies can be a nightmare too.....
Working for a First Nation I never experienced anything so crazy and toxic. The turnover was unbelievable. They try to come across all caring, etc. but nothing could be further from the truth. Avoid FNs if you value your mental health.
“We’re like a family here.”
Yeah... I don’t want to work with my family that much.
When your employer accuses you of "not communicating." Aka not snitching on your coworkers. So many managers use this technique to pit people against each other and to gain leverage.
lol and notoriously take part on the gossip and "arrangement " and "passive" bullying lmao
They encourage it lol
experienced this at my last job and thats why I left.
Early in my career I made the mistake of confiding in senior HR people. I was too naive to understand that they are usually tight with senior leadership, or even part of it, and will throw you under the bus in the blink of an eye. Never confide in internal HR people. They are there to protect company interests and the will of their bosses, not your interests, and to assume they will do what is right and fair is naive.
Very tru
I just lost my job
Had a psychological breakdown because my family is being torn apart
Went to HR to explain my situation and i needed to leave early because i was having trouble compartmentalizing
By 2:30pm i was informed i no longer have a job
I made myself vulnerable and got fired for it
They didnt just ruin my life
They ruined my families life too because now i am going to lose my families home because i dont have the money to keep it
Never make ur troubles known
Never explain urself
They will use it against u
I just quit my job today. Thank you for this video. Being brand new in my industry made me feel like what I was going through was normal but boy was I wrong
They gaslight. All of society is a gaslight. Our govt is a house of cards. Wall Street a den of rats and snakes.
Sounds like my experience working for a bank.
Called into a disciplinary meeting because I had "A bad attitude towards work"
Turns out all I wanted was to come to work, do my job and then go home.
The predatory/unethical sales strategies however were the thing that made me jump ship.
@@genxx2724 I'm not in the USA :)
Hilariously, the bank I was working for got scooped up by a bigger bank and so technically it doesn't exist anymore.
I’ve had jobs like that. It seems that petty tyrant mangers don’t like it when one really works and doesn’t routinely kiss their backsides.
A common corporate strategy is to try to force numerous other departments to do sales work. They think this will magically increase revenue.
They will also bait and switch applicants with fake jobs that they find out are really sales jobs.
I also once worked at a bank like that as a teller. They called me in a meeting and told me I had to get at least 5 new checking accounts and or savings accounts customers per MONTH. I worked as a TELLER. Cashing paychecks. In a small town of under 2000 residents. HOW in the heck am I supposed to get all these people to open accounts while working behind a counter? Obviously, the people the come in to the bank ALREADY HAD AN ACCOUNT....🙄 So I quit and went to work for a law firm as a legal secretary. And that was an even worse nightmare.
Working in a bank is hell.
You’re well spoken! I’m currently dealing with a toxic workplace and it has taken a toll on my mental health and well-being. It’s not worth it at all.
Signs you're in a toxic workplace- You work with other people.
Signs you're in a toxic LIFE = other people are around.
Signs of a toxic workplace: you're required to show up lol😅😅
Toxic people aka" Karen's "every workplace has a minimum of 1. A lot of people act like they're the boss, those people need to act their wage. If you wantb to know who to trust? Make up something, and only tell that person, and see how fast the story travels.
I prefer to work solo---
To say the very least
I was dating a Hatian man and he never took crap from anyone. I learned to defend myself more. I always thought it’s better to stay quiet with gossipers but its better to be direct with them so they don’t bother you anymore.
I worked at an extremely toxic company for years. Every single one of the points you brought up in your video rang true. Health issues sprang up, I had a mental breakdown resulting in attempted suicide, resulting in a severe anxiety disorder diagnosis. My digestive health collapsed, resulting in IBD from the constant stress. I still have nightmares about that place.
They had the gall to call me up a couple weeks ago and tell me "You're starting on Monday," without me applying to go back. and when I didn't show up on Monday, they threatened to sue me because of all the money they claimed to have invested in me, which was none. Basically they couldn't find someone to replace me, which was their own fault. Kind of happens when you have only ONE person in an entire department for years and refuse to put people in that department.
Can you sur them? You probably could win around 50.000$!
Just came across your comment, I know the exact feel. I had to quit a job due to a mental breakdown that lead to a whole range of health issues. High BP, panic attacks, suicidal thoughts, loss of appetite, depression. My workplace was one of the most toxic I had ever worked in 15 years, and from the first month I saw all the red flags but I thought "Hey, just get your experience, quit after 2 years and walk away"....and I regret not listening to my gut. Today I'm much better, however i still have anxiety issues that I need to work through. I hope you're doing much better today!
That's sad. I have anxiety just reading this.
I resonate with this so much 😭
Experience that on my first job to a certain extent.
From being fit and healthy, on my 3rd yr on the job, I became obese. I gained weight because of stress and over eating out of stress.
Stressful coworker, boss with favoritism, pleasing clients everyday. Our boss takes more target goals than other departments to make sure our department is the most effective one.
Chill other departments personnel are not over worked nor stressed out.
I was living an expensive lifestyle by spending money just to comfort myself thru food.
my work is 12 hrs everyday, for 5 days.
Now that I already changed back, looking at that company, it makes my blood boil knowing they made me a slave for work. Never again!
Work life is more important than work!
I just quit my first job 2 weeks ago , because my boss would constantly have these little disciplinary meetings for every small thing, and he would talk to me with zero respect just because I'm a fresher. I quit and he told me how I'm unprofessional for quitting in the middle
You are not unprofessional you have taken a good decision
I thought I had found my dream job.....but then I found out my coworkers are just like the mean girls in high school. They would make up stories about me and go to the manager about it. I gained 20 pounds and started having health issues before I realized it was time to move on....
I'm glad you left. I used to work with people like that. These women were well over 50 years old. I'm like grow up. But, I started overachieving to give them something extra to talk about on purpose.😁
By the way, I made the production numbers high so now they actually have to work. 😇
Keep your head up, and learn how to make everything be enjoyable to you.
I had a similar experience. I gained 20kg over 3 years and developed diabetes from the stress eating. Worst thing was the "mean girls" were all around my age and to this day I still have no idea what I ever did for them all to dislike me so much. We barely ever talked to each other at work. Ended up getting fired since I was too scared to leave at the time as I was feeling pretty worthless.
@@gravyz2cute4u you getting fired was a blessing in disguise because you outgrew that place and those people.
Just remember you will always be where your expectations are about yourself.
You are always in Divine timing got all of your good. Keep reminding yourself that. Your not alone💖💝👏👏👏👏
@@thehappyexperience3309 Thank you so much for your kind words :) Yes it was a blessing because I have a much more secure job with better pay and nice people now ^_^ That stuff happened back in 2016 yet I am still struggling to make peace with it.
@@gravyz2cute4u I’m sorry that happen to you, they didn’t deserve you, you dodged a bullet
I had a manager for 17 years that loved to pit one employee against another as a way to get information. Very toxic. It took me and another guy who complained to HR before he backed off. He generally left us alone after that.
I've had 2 bosses in my career who took me out of the office to ask me to force a peer out of the company. Not shitting you. I was a software engineer and very intense. I got things done by doing what was needed. And yeah these 2 employees needed to go...but that was the manager's job, not mine. I could have done what the manager wanted and made this guys look bad, stressed them out but how is that good for me or the company? The real problem imo appeared to be the manager. So I made them look bad instead. F them, they were worthless.
My former workplace constantly audited us, and the other employees who were stupid suck-ups who would try to impress the overlords so they would bully coworkers about every tiny thing that went wrong. I almost lost my shit and slapped a coworker before of this.
@@princessmarlena1359 Yes when I caught myself snapping at a colleague who didn’t entirely deserve it I realised that the job wasn’t going well.
You're fortunate, considering what I've heard about HR
I had quit an office job 2 months ago because an unprofessional coworker was jealous that I had a degree and she didn't know enough English. She has senority working at the company for 11 years. She would humiliate me and yell at me in front of the office manager. I immediately quit. It was a great deal breaker. The office manager herself didn't handle the situation. She was friends with this coworker and needed her because of her knowledge of the company. I'm sure karma would hit her back someday.
I left the most toxic company I have ever worked for a couple years ago. It was one of those "family" companies where everybody is looking for a reason to snitch on you. They'll even attempt to shoot you a Facebook friend request. All they want to do is dig into your past and find something to either gossip about or get you fired. Even though I was there for a year and a half, it felt like I had been there for more than 5 years, and NOT in a good way. In my early 30s, I started having health issues old retirees tend to have such as blood clots, a PE, other cardiopulmonary and cardiovascular issues, out of control stress related weight gain, a lower back that deteriorated so much it's been compared to an 80 year old's lower back, sciatica, and my knees are shot.
It was also an extremely draining place, psychologically. Being there was like being back in high school and middle school with all the gossip and scapegoating. Crap like that is counterproductive and creates an environment of hostility. They have to constantly play propaganda videos on their internal TV network. It really felt like I was part of a cult. That company definitely puts the "cult" in culture. The CEO knows what is going on but refuses to do anything about it. He's an out of touch Boomer and won't fire any of his college buddies from positions they have no business being in. I've tried talking to him about the internal issues and he would power walk away from me. What kind of message does that send to subordinates? The guy is a total chicken s---! Oh, and a "short" work week was 70hrs. Screw that!
After leaving, I spent 8 months drawing off my 401(k). I needed that much time to regather myself so I wouldn't go into the next company with a seriously negative and jaded attitude. Been at the company I work for since taking those 8 months off to get myself back together. It's an awesome place. There is no tolerance for gossip, a company owner who isn't some worthless armchair general, and most of all we're all treated like adults who have a life OUTSIDE of the workplace. The pay is real darn good, too!
Was it a warehouse or distribution environment bc that sounds very much like what I went through 5 years ago with my last employer. I still have nightmares and had to go back on antidepressants and ADHD meds to try to get through work.
"we're a family"= "we're a toxic cult'
@Electric Worry - where are you currently working? Sounds like a great company!
@@ZetaCancri truth
This sounds like my job exactly. I am in a family company, with frequent layoffs and people leaving. I gained at least 30 lbs just from stress. It got to the point where I would get anxiety attacks at every meeting, because meetings were a place to bring people down for the smallest mistakes. I am glad I am leaving for good; I am upset about leaving my direct boss and team though☹️ they were the only saving grace of the job.
Worked for a bully of a manager. He drove my immediate manager off. I was promoted and soon understood why he had left. After a few months I finally had my fill. Told him he was a bully and had a hostile work environment. A few weeks later he hung up on me during a call. I complained to his manager and HR. Two weeks later he gave me a crappy end of year review, which I challenged, and had overturned. My group was pulled out from under him. Unfortunately, it cost me all of my political capital, and a year later, I'm taking an early out. I was told I needed to let go of the past. Management and HR downplayed everything.
HR is not on your side
They are cowards
I went to HR to help take down a predatory boss and immediately took my exit right after. The look of betrayal that HR gave me when I let them know I was leaving was really funny. I know if I would have stayed it would've turned on me somehow. No thanks. Goodbye.
HR will never have your back, even if you have everything documented and all the proof.
@@LunaELugo Been down that road recently.
If you're looking for these videos, your work place is most likely toxic.
When it comes to exit interviews, I constantly hear the advice of "Don't do it." As management will take something you say out of context or just label you as a salty sally and proceed to bad mouth you when another potential employer calls them.
exit interviews are a form of CYA for the company. They want to make sure they aren't going to get sued...
Yup. One also avoids signing a ball-and-chain NDA. Just find a new gig and never come back.
"we're always hiring" is the largest red flag for me, as I worked for most major companies who advertise in that manner, they can't keep good workers to stay. I also worked one day for a company I honestly couldn't tell you what their name was..my state is popular for pop-up companies due to local business laws etc especially call center jobs
Sometimes they go on hiring binges, then realize they have over indulged, then go on firing binges. Big tech companies notorious for that of late (2002, 2003).
I quit an awesome job that I loved to death because of a bad boss that created a toxic work environment. (7/10 as per this video) videos like this helped me with job interviews and signs to look for. Now I’m in a much better place both career and as an extension, personal.
I quit an awesome job because of a bad boss. I’m glad after reading your comment that I’ll find something and land in a better place.
This is my situation right now. I’m finally in my dream job after 5 interviews to secure the position. Toxic outgoing staffer to train me and he created quite the smear campaign behind my back talking smack to our colleagues and (bragging about) reporting lies to managers, which they took seriously based on his testimonials. Even when managers told me about these reports and said they had no concerns about my conduct or dress, they still “brought these accusations to my attention.” As a result, I trusted no one because it seems that everyone smiled at my face but reported something negative behind my back and management took it seriously. This was an awesome job in every aspect except for the toxic and cliquey staff. Don’t miss them at all and will be extra careful in my new job to avoid these types of people.
I'm currently experiencing a secret storm from hellbent toxic heads. .
God knows my case
This happened to me at my last job
I ended up getting these nasty migraines that felt like bad hangovers went to the Dr. took multiple MRIs & the conclusion was STRESS.
Told them to give me a raise or if walk to a competitor who would offer me more money.
They didn't give me a raise so I just left.
Migraines left ever since that
I had stress in my job.....they were abusing me....for years unsocial hours etc...
I drew my pension then 1 week into that they bullied me...they didn't realise I had my pension...
So we had a quick discussion in the office....20 minutes later I was walking offsite.happy as Larry,...they had an attitude problem..
@limelight81 it felt good that the bullies didn't win at last.they hated not having control over me..
But I'm sure they justified themselves that I was a pillock..
@limelight81 we're still here swinging for the fences.
Have a final interview today for a job 🤞
Mine caused anxiety to the point I would shake walking into work to clock in then shake more at my desk. About a week into abusing prescription drugs prescribed to me I knew I had to RUN. Only job I gave zero notice. Stopped abusing meds, made appointment with psychologist, they verified I wasn't crazy, started my own business, never looked back no anxiety since.
@@davidp8627 glad to hear you made the right steps buddy.
One thing I ALWAYS remember now is there's nothing bad about quiting a job that does that to you.
Since I was young I was taught that you need to stick it out yada yada yada.
But now I've taken my health more seriously.
Before I posted about my recent incident I had never returned to a job in an AG shop.
The many made me feel like a real moron no matter what if do.
He'd tell me to ask for advice but when I would he would rub things in my fave or laugh.
So I figured that wasn't worth the shitty $12 an hr I was making.
So I took all my stuff from work when I left that Friday & never returned or answered there calls.
Fuck them!
All that shit for $12 you can suck me sideways I'll make the same amount selling stuff in eBay
Don't normally share private things, but watching this video has been validating. I am so tired of working hard for companies and employers who do not value me and, in fact, undermine my accomplishments or skills. In my experience, fast food frequently involves workplace toxicity and poor management. I work hard and work to live. I love dealing with customers- nothing makes me happier than helping someone with lunch or dinner for themselves, friends, and family! I don't mind the job, just like how you said, "people don't quit jobs, they quit bosses". Hopefully everyone else who knows what it's like finds a better company, boss, and means of living.
I hope you find a job you like that pays well enough with a good boss 💜
Work from home is so much better and healthier than working on site full of toxic and insecure negative people.
Yeah, except from what I've observed, work from home is code for screwing off, walking your dog, running errands, playing with your kids, living in your pajamas, but still getting paid as if you are going into the office and being held to account and a standard.
I work in the remodeling industry, so I've worked in many homes where people "work from home".
@@markbrowning4334 That is not true for the majority of people who actually care about their work.
Well, that was a tour of most of my previous job environments. And part of the reason, I didn't leave the house for eight months because I could not longer face people.
Run far, run fast people. If that alarm goes off and you get a knot in your stomach .... get out.
Even if you have to retrain into a different sector and start from scratch (I did at 44), your mental health is worth it.
Thanks for all of the videos.
Another big one I've experienced is regular threats of disciplinary action from managerial staff. I recently worked with a company who would regularly threaten staff for extremely minor infringements then got confused when figures and morale tanked. Things finally started to change when it began seriously affecting staff turnover but I'd had enough by then and quit.
Yes ive been told my boss would "have me" for that (minor issue). And im like....why?
Or how about the boss who says, "I should have fired you on the spot for..." (something trivial). My feeling was how come nobody fired him? Or how about the boss who is so used to being catered to he runs behind your back to tattle on you?? I get so sick of these behaviors every time I hear about them. THEY are the ones who should be fired (with poverty then nipping at their heels). Then let's see how they feel after losing their job, their car and their house (if they are lucky enough to have one), situations that they have no qualms about regularly putting the average worker through -- not to mentioned ruined credit and the consequences that brings.
Another contributor to a toxic work environment, somewhat related to your point: the expectation for your work is absolutely perfect work, with zero mistakes. How does a person exceed expectations in that job? It's logically impossible
The powers that be are hellbent on trying to get rid of me
Parallel lives!
I worked at a Assisted Living home as a receptionist, and something about it was off. No one was happy there, everyone acted like they hated their lives. The managers spent a whole lot of time in the back chatting in the clique. So we were working, while everyone was having a social hour. They gossiped about people…I just couldn’t.
Yep. I worked in a place where the boss tried to impose the norm that everybody worked 50 hours a week or more.
If you accept a job that does that, make sure that the pay reflects the extra hours. Then make sure that you leave the work at the office at quitting time.
'In most cases, people quit bosses not jobs' Good leadership is so important to retain good employees. I have known many to be happier with less compensation and a great boss than the other way around. Although having the best of both would be ideal ;)
I agree 100 ! I am currently looking to leave bc my supervisor . I have a supervisor who never worked in my position . My current job is so busy that i never get a real lunch , I don’t get 6 seconds of a mental break ever , get out late all the time and the mounds of side work I have to do while scanning patients is just ridiculous. I am feeling very over whelmed . The company I work for was just on the news for being the lowest paid hospital in the area so they decided to do one of those market adjustment raises but when they gave it they took pto away from everyone to offset it. I still don’t understand why our pto was taken away just bc we got a market adjustment raise. The icing on the cake is my coworker will be out for 3 months on FMLA so my supervisor wants to stick me with a new grad. My job takes YEARS to be decent at it. I came up with some other ideas that would work much better bc I will not have time to train and watch everthing he does while having to do the million other things I have to do. This has been an awful job
@@ccalexander1924 It sounds like you are beyond working flat out... I hope you are able to help your management understand how unrealistic their expectation is... of you or anyone in this position. If not, then I hope you eventually find an opportunity that truly values your hard work, dedication and commitment. Stay strong CC Alexander.
Its what has made me leave any job if I leave it… volunteer or paid…. Bad leadership, bully leadership or inconclusive leadership roles (I dont know who is in charge)
@@Jaxmusicgal23 Good on you for not staying in a toxic situation. It can be challenging for many to make such a decision but sounds like you have it covered! All the best in your journey.
Other signs are:
1) Bad employees get rewarded/promoted over good employees.
2) Favoritism
3) Lack of leadership in management and clear communication
4) No opportunities for professional growth (like courses, training, resources, promotions, etc)
5) Sudden hyper focus on sales, metrics, PIPs and cutting costs and corners
6) "Cliques" within the company (like in highschool)
7) Old time employees leaving the company
8) Feeling like you are not valued/appreciated
9) Feeling like you can't express your concerns or bring up issues with management
10) Back stabbing co-workers
One thing I've learned is that bringing up issues or concerns or even ideas and suggestions (to really toxic enviroments) is career suicide. You come off as a debbie downer, a person who complains a lot and is not grateful, and not a team player or like you don't fit the company culture. And in really toxic places, if you bring up issues you will be ignored and or reprimanded, and then ostraziced or isolated from the rest. Promotions will never happen for you, and no more opportunities to grow within the company. You will get stuck in a shitty role or even be moved to a lower position and kept there until you quit.
So, it's best to keep a mental note of all the stuff you don't like and if it's too much or is affecting your health and quality of work, then it's probably a good thing to start looking for a another job and leave when possible.
Here's my contribution (not sure if already mentioned): constantly getting "it is what it is" in response to areas for improvement, issues and obstacles.
Or the "This is how we have always done it!". Means they are not open to changes that would benefit everyone in the long run cos it take some time and cost a bit.
That one is called a "thought terminating cliché".
Really simple. 1. If they aren’t paying you a competitive salary. 2. You are given a amount of work & expected to complete it at a unreasonable rate.
You must leave, they won’t change & your boss won’t charge. Don’t waste your time going to HR
The going behind my back is what I’m dealing with now. All the hard work I do is constantly being overlooked. But one small thing, I catch hell over it.
I’m starting to think people like this are sociopaths. They get a thrill of watching others fall by deliberately trying to sabotage them anyway they can.
Hell is other people
For the wicked cannot sleep unless they do evil; And they are deprived of sleep unless they make someone stumble and fall. Proverbs 4:16
Yep. Some people can light the building on fire and they’re still the prized employees but I’m not even at work the day the building burns down and somehow I’m blamed for the blaze. (Figuratively speaking - I’m not an arsonist and no where I’ve worked has burned down - it’s just an analogy)
@@reesedaniel5835
It's also true that the real victims and the prey of the wicked are deprived of sleep from the anxiety and stress
What does it say about the victims who are deprived of sleep due to the exploits of the wicked?
Thank you for this amazing video. I recently left a toxic environment. Unfortunately, I only see this getting worse. I spoke with an Attorney friend (not to sue just to understand what is going on in the working world) and the way he described is that companies -- especially the large ones -- are going around breaking the law by hiring those that are protected by the law to execute their dirty work (ie female bosses being abusive to their female employees). The government needs to find a way to account for emotional abuse as one of their protected classes and soon. The future of work is very bleak, IMO.
I agree with you...companies need to strongly implement anti-gossiping and anti-harassment laws in the workplace.
Same. I've had horrible female bosses and I'm a female. One lady boss came to my house to threaten me. The last lady boss never showed up to work, called me on the work phone just to tell me how bad of a job I was doing and after that phone call I broke down and cried in the office. I quit that night I can't handle much any more abuse.
@@d-nise6364 Unfortunately such laws would work as well as the anti-age dissemination law.
I was just 'let go' I think a coworker or someone was being highly critical of my work and they were being dishonest plus they would go behind my back and kept complaining about my work when there was nothing wrong with it, I cant prove who it was but I have a fare idea and I wish her all the best she wanted my job so bad.
Wow. That makes so much sense
Just passing by to say thanks. After watching this video, I decided to quit and now I have a job that makes me so happy. Nothing compared to the previous one where I was miserable. Thanks again!
I was a teacher for 30 years. In that time, I had 11 principals.
2 were good.
The other 9 were very bad.
This is very typical for a public school: the person leading teachers is almost always (a) a failed teacher who went into administration and (b) an unprincipled brown noser who will sell out teachers to the district administration or to unreasonable parents in the snap of a finger. This is why there's a teacher shortage and a big reason why teacher morale was so low.
My last job was so toxic that I got laid off after I complained to HR. They wanted me to work 60+ hours every week. Also I had to rate my coworkers’ performance by the end of the year, basically snitching on them, which I didn’t do and I guess it got me laid off.
Hope you got unemployment by documenting their bad management
@@Fil0girl yeah it was a bad experience. Now I’m trying be more selective for my next job.
HR is never your friend. I have learned that much in my 10 year career path. They protect the company, not you.
@@MrPanzerDragoon I just learned that lesson too jaja
If salary that's bad, hourly that's good.
Everything you said here is accurate. The place I just left hit all ten points. I wish I looked at the reviews. After only one month my health took the biggest turn for the worst I have ever seen. My psoriasis flared up on both my skin and joints & my hair is falling out. I had to leave with no exit strategy & a mortgage. It’s horrible I’m so mad because a month ago the job market was awesome, now it’s not. Don’t waste even a week at a shitty place.
I worked for a warehouse that the owner retired and the new management team came in a bunch narcissists and created a toxic environment with a revolving door of employees. It started to effect my health as I have ADHD and diebetes to the breaking point. I ended up getting a great full time job in transportation busing a job I love with a team that appreciates my work ethics and experience. I have noticed how better my health is with my sleeping and diebetic numbers. No job is worth your health
Good reminder. I HATE looking for a job, interviewing and starting over but my mental and physical health are more important than working for narcissistic bosses.
Just interviewed with a company that spent 20 min selling me on the company, and then told me I would be working 10 hours 6 days a week because they’re so busy. The position is exempt, so the salary calculated hourly plummeted. Zero work/life balance. I passed on the second interviewed.
This is the problem with skeletal crews at every office. They want increased max output with bare minimum staff.
Yeah, anyone who wants you to be excited about overtime has a problem. Pass on that and don't look back.
Good call.
Yup, I worked for an engineering company. I worked 50 hours from Monday to Friday. Then they started to expect us to put in 5-8 hours on a Saturday. If you refused to work Saturdays, you were tagged as not being a team player. I quit.
Edit - this was a small family company too.
Good call. The company was saying sorry we do not value your time.
My current company ticks all the boxes you have mentioned! I am constantly tired, stressed and feeling under appreciated.
This reminds me of how badly I wish I could drop my current job like a hot potato. It's like Dysfunction Junction over there 24/7.
I started a new job and it feels too good to be true. My last job became such a sham, it ticked all the boxes of what you said. I'm trying to remember I'm not suffering there anymore, I've hit gold with my new company and job.
When I worked at a credit union, my manager regularly treated the tellers like trash. I was done after 7 months when he tried to discipline me for something that never happened. He even had the assistant manager sign off on it. I quit and wrote a letter to his boss.
I work in Japan, and my gosh the work life balance (at least in my personal experience) is nearly nonexistent, and overwork equals a good worker because the individual pursues the growth of company skills over a healthy balance. I’ve felt insecure about not being ‘tough enough’ to push doing the work, but I’m glad this video brought back my confidence in believing that having a work life balance IS healthy. ( I feel crazy having to type this out)
I was in Japan for vacation and during breakfast in a hotel saw people going to work from a railway station past our hotel. OMG! Prisoners in German concentration camps looked happier. Wishing you the Best of Luck to survive 🫂
@@MauiTheBengalCatthank you very much for your kind message. I’m still surviving somehow, lots of things have changed since I wrote this but I won’t lie, I think the core principle of overworker = good worker hasn’t really changed. I’ve gotten shamed for spending my free time but I’ve gotten over the bullying. Still not sure how long I plan to stay in Japan but if anything it’s quite the challenging work experience that has hopefully toughened me up for other corporate work environments. I hope you guys had a restful vacation!
@@AryaDeVil_EN Stay strong in your spirit and believe in yourself no matter how the environment would want to enslave you. I heard similar stories happening in other countries - the most noble thing to die while working... My young colleagues did pass away from overwork. Wishing you strength, patience and possibly better routes in work. 🥰😍🤩
The problem with reviews is that companies tell their employees to add great reviews. Experienced this first hand and really tricks people outside of the industry
The most toxic environment I've ever worked in was in childcare/daycare/preschool.
Gossip. Bad mouthing center directors. Watching children be bullied and neglected by adults. Teachers who felt the need to know everyone's business. If you weren't of the same background of the majority of the staff, you'd be treated with no respect.
After working in several childcare facilities in the span of two years, I made the decision to change careers. All the stress I suffered due to toxic environments lead to me having health problems.
I'm deeply sorry what you want through. I knew a man that work for a company 40yrs truck assembe company, he lost most of his memories he's assign to one area, it's serious
That’s cuz you likely were working with all women. When there are no men around women show their fangs constantly. Nothing better to do than find all the things in other people that make them unhappy with their boring loser lives
Agree. Same
Worked in the health fueled taking care of elderly I also got anxiety and nerves just from that job
Schools are toxic environments. Ask any teacher or bullied student.
Just about everything you listed was my last job. And it was the owner of the company who was this biggest issue. He was terrible. I was a manager and he treated me like crap and even did so in front of my team. He put me on a PIP and told me to go to therapy. When I quit within weeks my entire team quit. They continue to have high turnover over and I soon look for them to be out of business. When I am now is an incredible blessing and I could not be happier. I had to go through years of bad work environments and bad bosses to experience the good.
My very first job almost made me feel suicidal. I felt sick every morning heading to work, I would dread Sunday evenings. I worried that all workplaces were like that, that this was just how it was and I would have to get used to it. On my first day at work, the boss was screaming at this one guy, telling him he was an idiot and how he was so close to getting fired. It was quite terrifying but I thought perhaps it was a one-off occurrence. That wasn't the case at all! Almost daily someone would get shouted at, the whole office listening in quietly. It was a small company, the MD was a bully and a pervert. The girl that trained me had only been at the job for 4 weeks and her answer to my questions was to ask someone else if I didn't understand something. I stayed there far too long as I needed the work experience and money but it was soul-destroying. Thankfully, since then I've been lucky. Have worked with some excellent managers, really supportive, encouraging and positive. Some of my coworkers have been a right pain, but on the whole, I can't complain.
I always ask about what the work/company culture looks like in an interview, how they answer can often tell you a lot.
I already know I’m in a toxic environment. I just want to not feel like I’m at fault or crazy for feeling this way.
I was working an office job while I was going through massage school. Talk about a toxic environment. I was constantly belittled by my gossipy coworkers, and ignored by the constantly changing office manager. The only reason I powered through was because I knew I could get out as soon as I had my license.
Not sure if my workplace qualifies as toxic, but I did notice at least one thing in this video that might qualify: Dishonesty. There seems to be a trend in my workplace where the workhorses(aka the people that get things done) are told they are doing a great job, glad that they are there, ect. But when it comes down to time for raises, promotion ect, despite still being told they are doing great, they still get passed over. Now I'm wondering if it's worth it to try and change the culture, or should I just move on.
You sound as if you’re working in Columbus Ohio cause we good for some dumb shit like what “Eld” posts here ☝🏿
At least you get a "good job." 😂
@Mocha Reads 777 I learned that the hard way as well. The craft guys make nearly double what I do and didn't have to pay on student loans for 10 years.
I suggest Door #2
@ghost mall That's what I noticed. My employers don't cultivate the leadership skills in their most productive employees. I've been passed over by people hired from outside the company with inferior resumes, multiple times. I've received the "so sorry, we'll keep you in mind speech" numerous times that it's made me disgruntled.
The dishonesty part has really gotten out of hand.
I caught my employers and coworkers lying and manipulating so much that I simply couldn't keep up fighting mental games with them and working at the same time.
In one employment I had, the toxic environment was caused by one person single-handedly .
I was always able to avoid gossip by being “oblivious”. Most of the time things like gossip do go right over my head, but I do hear some of it, but I soon got the reputation of being oblivious, and management didn’t ask me about it anymore.
It's good to hear someone cover this topic, it doesn't get enough attention. Often people assume it is the individual that is that is the problem (sometimes it is), but i have witnessed a lot of egregious behavior over the years (and often it is from employees and not the management). I have worked in enough jobs to see the company culture varies a Lot. there is a developer that has a channel and he tends to focus only on the negative aspects of corporate culture (all jobs have their challenges). But realize that MOST jobs do not last anymore, do not get too comfortable and wrap your identity around the company you work for. What I like about today is there are many permanent work from home jobs now. In the past, it was only sales or specialized computer programming jobs that were remote (and that was because companies couldn't find a local candidate, they were forced to allow developers to work from home).
"Think about what's best for your career"?? OR think about what's best for your mental health better because NO JOB as lucrative as it is is not worth it when it comes to one's own mental health. If only I had considered this thought years ago.
Sounds like my time in the military. Moving targets, work/life balance, "win" at all costs, dishonesty, excessive gossip, bad bosses......
100% of military veterans have been subjected to brutal Narcissistic abuse tactics.
I'm in the Army and I was thinking the same 😂
Wish I could like this comment twice.
Yup
I saw a review of my old office, where:
-People showed up at dawn and worked until evening, including Sat and/or Sun
-A manager for 12 years simply
walked out
-An employee was vomiting due to the stress of impossible deadlines
-Frequent interruptions and meetings re: those deadlines
I am happy I found your Channel! I am in a very TOXIC work environment. I am new and I found they treat all employees poorly. They give us enough work for 12 hours a day for 7 days a week and barely pay us for 35 hours, no overtime, no compensation for working the extra hours. The job cannot be finished in normal work hours. Co is UNDERSTAFFED. Their expectations are UNREALISTIC. illegally I was told NOT to enter my overtime. That is snake oil.
this is more "10 signs you are working in retail".
Never worked retail, but doing hospitality I dread going into work most days.
Probably doesn't help that I basically got thrown headfirst into my role
I was a grocery slave for over 17 years, so I highly agree with this. It’s been about three years since I left the awful grocery world and it still occasionally gives me nightmares. 🤣
gossip is huge at my workplace, i hate gossip so much. i try my absolute hardest to stray from gossip i’ve only ever talked to someone about how i didn’t like how someone was treating me and always felt guilty after “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over”. i really need to pray for more courage and boldness dealing with people and problems face to face. shut things down and not dwell