For MikroTik from the console, you use; /interface ethernet set sfp1 auto-negotiation=no /interface ethernet set sfp1 disable-running-check=yes This turns off management of the SFP port to manage the speed it can connect at, and will turn on the optics on the SFP. Make sure you have a dust cover in place on the optics so not to blind yourself. 'sfp1' is the sfp interface in RouterOS.
Reasons for that being that the network needs to be able to monitor the customers equipment to test for any issues with PON ID, IP address, light levels ect, general issues in the area ect either with the local OLT exchange or eCin cabinets.
Hey, Thanks for this video and the guide you done, very much appreciated, I will be following this all very shortly, got my new router, WAS-110 on their way, however I need to get the LC/APC to SC/APC, You have kindly linked to a cable on amazon, but is there also just an adaptor to convert the existing VM cable to SC/APC, if possible can you link one that will work or reccommended, I want to ensure I don't order the wrong adaptor, thank you
Hey Alan thank you for your kind feedback glad you found the video useful. Here is a link to an adaptor that I know someone else has used with this setup Iacob Adapter/Coupler for Fibre Optic Singlemode Simplex LC SC UPC APC (1, LC/APC - LC/APC)
Hi I have city fibre network installed to my address and having trouble choosing between A&A, IDNet, Yayzi, or Zen. These are supposedly the top 4 ISP’s from my research. The broadband will be used for working from home and mobile gaming. I am based in Coventry, West Midlands. Which of the ISP’s would you recommend and is a static IP required so I don’t have CGNAT? All help is appreciated.
Hi Elusive12, I’ve used Andrew’s and Arnold and IDNet before and both are very good and provide static IPv4 and IPv6 as standard and let you use own router etc. Zen are also meant to be good from what I hear all those three I know offer good customer support . Yayzi I’ve heard mixed things about and not had any experience of yet but I believe they are cheaper.
Thank you, The WAS-110 supports full 10Gbps speed of XGSPON therefore if you pay for Gig2 you will get full Gig2 speeds on the WAS-110 and same latency. You wont get any of VM's automated speed tests that have been known to cause performance issues on the Hub 5x so you may find it performs better.
Youll be taking away the smart monitoring feature that the Hub5x uses to test for any area issues ect. Samknows monitoring wont relay back to the servers and cause issues resulting in technicians being booked to your address for BB issues ect.
Unfortunately that monitoring/ testing was causing issues especially for people with GiG2 VM have had to disable it on a lot of lines for now see www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2024/08/virgin-media-uk-working-to-fix-ping-spikes-on-2gbps-broadband-lines.html I’m not aware of any technicians coming out as a result of using the WAS-110 nor VM contact anyone due to lack of monitoring. Everyone I know who has changed to using a WAS-110 has had a more stable and better performing broadband connection.
@@westtell4 mate i've been on virgin since it was ntl. why should these new ppl coming in get to do as they please when we've followed the rules for years.
@@Martin1989-m4z it’s not there fault you have followed the rules or are not technically inclined to do this. ISPs shouldn’t limit us to crappy hardware I have done this with my XGS-pon service. Just because you had to experience it doesn’t mean the rest of us have to suffer with it. I’m not even in the uk and never used virgin but American isps are just as terrible
@@Martin1989-m4z what the hell are you drivelling on about? I've been on virgin since diamond cable, pre-ntl, every single version I've been able to use Modem mode so that I can use my own networking hardware instead of the crap you get from the ISP. XGS-pon and the hub 5x is the first time we haven't had a modem mode. If virgin were bothered about it they'd offer a proper modem mode for us. This is a great solution until they do.
@@Martin1989-m4z because the "rules" are flawed. VM have provided hardware for XGS-PON connections which are buggy, and not fit for purpose (missing features, even compared to their other service types). Look at the lack of modem mode here, or the numerous bugs with Intel Puma chipsets on prior models. Consumers have had enough of ISPs supplying garbage hardware. Consider other European countries which enforce a right for consumers to be able to run their own CPE. That's the right way to do it.
At least on VMs DOCSIS network you have fully working modem mode to allow people to use their own routers. On the Hub5X (at the time of writing) Modem Mode is not fully working which is the main reason people are using the WAS sticks to enable them to use their own routers which is permitted in the TOS. VM are upgrading their HFC and RFOG DOCSIS areas to XGSPON over the next few years which means everyone on VM will be on XGSPON. I hope Virgin Media do see this may spur them on to fixing Modem Mode on the Hub 5X and or provide XGSPON customers with a separate ONT.
not from the UK but good to See Virgin is finally Doing FTTP BT/openreach has been doing them for years now
For MikroTik from the console, you use;
/interface ethernet set sfp1 auto-negotiation=no
/interface ethernet set sfp1 disable-running-check=yes
This turns off management of the SFP port to manage the speed it can connect at, and will turn on the optics on the SFP. Make sure you have a dust cover in place on the optics so not to blind yourself. 'sfp1' is the sfp interface in RouterOS.
And Virgin could have just added modem mode or allowed users to request an ONT instead of a hub5x, complete inflexibility.
Reasons for that being that the network needs to be able to monitor the customers equipment to test for any issues with PON ID, IP address, light levels ect, general issues in the area ect either with the local OLT exchange or eCin cabinets.
@@EpicXProtocol and now what they get is unknown hardware in use on their network instead.
Feels like they shot themselves in the foot there tbh.
Hey, Thanks for this video and the guide you done, very much appreciated, I will be following this all very shortly, got my new router, WAS-110 on their way, however I need to get the LC/APC to SC/APC, You have kindly linked to a cable on amazon, but is there also just an adaptor to convert the existing VM cable to SC/APC, if possible can you link one that will work or reccommended, I want to ensure I don't order the wrong adaptor, thank you
Hey Alan thank you for your kind feedback glad you found the video useful. Here is a link to an adaptor that I know someone else has used with this setup Iacob Adapter/Coupler for Fibre Optic Singlemode Simplex LC SC UPC APC (1, LC/APC - LC/APC)
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CNZZ2MYM?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Thanks for that, did you get your was-110 from fiber mall, did you pay any additional customs fees?
I got one stick from Fibre Mall no issues with customs etc and another from the 8311 discord group buy again no issues.
@nsmmedia perfect, thank you 👍
Great video. Are you able to add a link for the cable or adapter to attach the fibre to the WAS-110 so we don’t buy the wrong thing?
Thank you - Added link to vid description now amzn.eu/d/9qHy2zz
Hi
I have city fibre network installed to my address and having trouble choosing between A&A, IDNet, Yayzi, or Zen. These are supposedly the top 4 ISP’s from my research.
The broadband will be used for working from home and mobile gaming. I am based in Coventry, West Midlands.
Which of the ISP’s would you recommend and is a static IP required so I don’t have CGNAT?
All help is appreciated.
Hi Elusive12, I’ve used Andrew’s and Arnold and IDNet before and both are very good and provide static IPv4 and IPv6 as standard and let you use own router etc. Zen are also meant to be good from what I hear all those three I know offer good customer support . Yayzi I’ve heard mixed things about and not had any experience of yet but I believe they are cheaper.
You have two "Sticks" in the last pic. Were you doing Failover? I'm trying to look into auto gateway failover with Ubiquiti Shadow mode.
Hi Les, yes I have multi wan gateway failover configured in my PFSense Router which works pretty well 👍
@@nsmmedia Are the WANs different fiber companies?
Yup both different networks/ISPs I also have Three 5G broadband as a backup
IP host MAC needs to be the one on the bottom of the hub or you'll get a false O5. Mine was different to the :01 MAC.
Intresting works fine for me with that MAC address guess they may be updating their systems to lock to MACs on the Hub 5x rather than use the same one
@@nsmmedia I think mine was 50:52 instead of 00:01. When I used the 01 I got a false O5, everything looked good but got no IP or connection.
Cool stuff as always, is there a performance difference between the WAS-110 and the Hub 5x, in terms of speed?
Thank you, The WAS-110 supports full 10Gbps speed of XGSPON therefore if you pay for Gig2 you will get full Gig2 speeds on the WAS-110 and same latency.
You wont get any of VM's automated speed tests that have been known to cause performance issues on the Hub 5x so you may find it performs better.
@@nsmmedia glad to hear I can circumvent those issues once XGS-PON is available in my area 👍
Im a total noob when it comes to VLAN's can someone help me with connecting the PON fibre module to sharing its internet across my network?
Feel free to reach out via the 8311 discord and we can help you on there 👍
@@nsmmedia Thanks I will do!
will Virgin implement anything that can cause this not to work in future
It’s certainly possible just one of the risks you take with this solution.
Don't know why they don't just do this from the start
Is it still IPv4 only?
To be fair at least in the US alot of our providers even fiber providers are IPv4 only... i have been bugging my ISP for about a year for IPv6
If your on Virgin Media then yup it’s IPv4 only there are ways round that ie using an AAISP L2TP service
Seems VM will never roll out naitive IPV6. @@nsmmedia
Youll be taking away the smart monitoring feature that the Hub5x uses to test for any area issues ect. Samknows monitoring wont relay back to the servers and cause issues resulting in technicians being booked to your address for BB issues ect.
Unfortunately that monitoring/ testing was causing issues especially for people with GiG2 VM have had to disable it on a lot of lines for now see www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2024/08/virgin-media-uk-working-to-fix-ping-spikes-on-2gbps-broadband-lines.html
I’m not aware of any technicians coming out as a result of using the WAS-110 nor VM contact anyone due to lack of monitoring.
Everyone I know who has changed to using a WAS-110 has had a more stable and better performing broadband connection.
sent this over to my friends at Virgin to see what they've got to say. this is almost definitely against tos
Ok Karen
@@westtell4 mate i've been on virgin since it was ntl. why should these new ppl coming in get to do as they please when we've followed the rules for years.
@@Martin1989-m4z it’s not there fault you have followed the rules or are not technically inclined to do this. ISPs shouldn’t limit us to crappy hardware I have done this with my XGS-pon service. Just because you had to experience it doesn’t mean the rest of us have to suffer with it. I’m not even in the uk and never used virgin but American isps are just as terrible
@@Martin1989-m4z what the hell are you drivelling on about? I've been on virgin since diamond cable, pre-ntl, every single version I've been able to use Modem mode so that I can use my own networking hardware instead of the crap you get from the ISP.
XGS-pon and the hub 5x is the first time we haven't had a modem mode.
If virgin were bothered about it they'd offer a proper modem mode for us. This is a great solution until they do.
@@Martin1989-m4z because the "rules" are flawed.
VM have provided hardware for XGS-PON connections which are buggy, and not fit for purpose (missing features, even compared to their other service types). Look at the lack of modem mode here, or the numerous bugs with Intel Puma chipsets on prior models. Consumers have had enough of ISPs supplying garbage hardware.
Consider other European countries which enforce a right for consumers to be able to run their own CPE. That's the right way to do it.
Sent this over to my friends at virgin to see what they've got to say.. this can't be allowed
Yawn, don't you have anything better to do lol
@@coolvideos8864 us lot on the cable network dont get this choice so why should you lot get to.
At least on VMs DOCSIS network you have fully working modem mode to allow people to use their own routers.
On the Hub5X (at the time of writing) Modem Mode is not fully working which is the main reason people are using the WAS sticks to enable them to use their own routers which is permitted in the TOS.
VM are upgrading their HFC and RFOG DOCSIS areas to XGSPON over the next few years which means everyone on VM will be on XGSPON.
I hope Virgin Media do see this may spur them on to fixing Modem Mode on the Hub 5X and or provide XGSPON customers with a separate ONT.
Yawn. Stay in your own lane, it doesn't affect you.
@@dbrose77 I beg to differ, seeing how I have a PON Stick and your a male Karen so it’s like shooting fish in a barrel to upset you