Replace ISP ONT/ONU with PON Stick (SFP Module) - Hisense GPON LTE3415 and OpenWRT
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video, I will show you how I replace the ISP provided ONU/ONT with my own SFP GPON module (GPON Stick) and configured it on OpenWRT. This can also be applied for other type of PON, such as such EPON.
There are different devices to use with. In this setup, I use the Hisense LTE3415 SCA+ GPON module, the Zimaboard with the Mellanox ConnectX-3 network adapter. It is running OpenWRT. Besides the xPON Stick (SFP xPON module), you can also use a different ONU, as long as it allow you to modify the device information to match with the information of the original ONU (from the ISP).
If you wish to learn more about this, you can also check out the below useful links:
- Hack GPON hack-gpon.github.io
- Realtek RTL960x xPON SFP ONU github.com/Anime4000/RTL960x
- Ditch ONU & Use GPON SFP forum.lowyat.net/topic/492545...
Video timeframe:
00:00 - Quick Overview of PON, OLT, ONU and fiber connector
01:37 - The Hisense LTE3415 SCA+ SFP GPON Module
02:26 - Router with SFP Cage (SFP Port)
03:14 - Connect Fiber cable to the Zimaboard x86 OpenWRT Router PC
04:40 - Login to OpenWRT LuCI & Change the LAN IP
06:46 - Access the SFP GPON module Web-UI behind NAT
08:12 - The LTE3415 SCA+ Web-UI Overview
10:13 - Manage the LTE3415 SCA+ via Telnet & Commands Overview
12:02 - VLAN Configuration (Auto / Manual / Transparent / Tagging)
14:34 - Configure PPPoE on OpenWRT (with VLAN)
16:32 - Configure the LTE3415 SCA+ via Config File
Thanks for watching and good luck!
If you enjoy the video and want to support me, please check out the patreon page at / vantechcorner . Thank you! - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Hi, my question is what's the difference between a router/switch and ont? Are those limited to gpon sfp module meaning can we make any switch a gpon ont by insert an compatible gpon sfp into it?
Last, are gpon ont sfp and gpon onu spf the same or there's difference?
Regarding the first question (What's the difference between a router/switch and ont?): They are 3 distinct things. A router serves as a gateway between your public internet address and the devices in your local network, doing what is called Network Address Translation (NAT). A switch does not do that, neither does an ONT (unless it is a combined ONT/router unit, which is the piece of equipment that ISPs usually install in the client's home). An ONT serves as a converter between optical fiber and copper cables and handles the authentication with a fiber ISP's OLT. A switch serves to connect multiple devices within a local network.
Regarding the second question (Are those limited to gpon sfp module?): ONTs are not limited to SFP modules. There are also ONTs with ethernet connection instead of SFP, which can be used to connect to a router's ethernet WAN port.
Regading the third question (can we make any switch a gpon ont by insert an compatible gpon sfp into it?): In this case, the ONT is actually the GPON SFP module, not the router or switch . But you could attach a GPON SFP module to a switch to convert from SFP to ethernet and then connect another port of the switch to a WAN port of a router. In this case, the switch would not be behaving as a switch, but rather as as media converter (which is another piece of equipment you can buy to connect the SFP module). But in any case you would still need a router to do the network address translation.
Regarding the fourth question: "Last, are gpon ont sfp and gpon onu spf the same or there's difference?": There's technically a difference between an ONU and an ONT, but these terms are usually used interchangeably. The expressions "GPON ONT SFP" and "GPON ONU SFP" refer to the same thing. But, in this case, technically, we're actually talking about an ONT, not an ONU.
@@vitorao Thanks for taking time to write really detailed answer. It really cleared my doubt.
I have another one, for user management, what's the difference between a gpon ont and ethernet switch that's using gpon sfp module? Are they both using Vlan to separate the traffic or there's some difference in their working.
@@RahulAhire, it's pretty unusual to have a switch with a GPON SFP module. Those modules are usually intended for being used directly in a router with an SFP port. Regarding the difference between using a GPON SFP module and an ONT with ethernet connection, they are usually intended for different use scenarios. A simple ONT with ethernet connection is a cheaper solution designed to work with simple routers that only have ethernet connection, and that will work fine for most users. SFP GPON modules, on the other hand, are usually intended for corporate networks that use high-end routers and require an internet connection faster than 1 gigabit/s, as most ethernet connections won't support speeds higher than that. Also, attaching a SFP module directly into a router saves space (which can be a very important thing in corporate racks with tons of equipment) in comparison to using a separate ONT.
@@RahulAhire, regarding the VLAN question, there will not be much difference between a GPON SFP module and an ONT. Both will usually have 2 options. One is called "transparent mode", which will allow the traffic from all VLANs to be directed to the router, and then you will need to configure what to do with each specific VLAN on the router. The other option it to tag a specific VLAN, which will allow only traffic from a specific VLAN, and then you do not need to do any VLAN configuration on the router. The latter is usually done when you need only one VLAN to go into the router and you have an old router that does not support VLAN management.
@@vitorao thanks for answering it, highly appreciated 👍🏻
So so much interesting.
Now I may look for a small 4 port PoE (~50W) switch with SFP for being able to use this.
Hi, you don't need the PoE switch to power on the SFP module. Any router or switch with SFP cage (port) will do.
@@VanTechCorner that's what I need. I have 3 PoE APs (UAP AC PRO) and have no SFP port. So I need to power the APs but need SFP too
Since you are using UniFi/Ubiquiti products, you can take a look at the UniFi Switch 8 PoE (150W) or the EdgeSwitch 8 150W. They are quite expensive IMO. I will grab a 5 ports PoE switch, such as the Netgear GS305P or TP-Link TL-SG1005P and a media converter for the SFP module.
Ah! I will definitely try this.
Hi, I from Brazil. In next week I will try the same solutions (with other SFP GPON Stick). Nice video.
Cool, please share the model of the SFP module and the ISP too. I believe it will be useful for others.
e ai, fez o teste? qual gpon stick vc usou?
@@sbromulo Ainda não, entrega atrasada.
@@geraldoteodoro9326 blz quando fizer os testes me avisa aqui. Vlw
@@sbromulo Sim, pode deixar que aviso sim. Ansioso aqui pois estava previso para chegar dia 8. :D
Great Video , Please make video also on EDGEROUTER X SFP.
Very nice, thanks
Amazing! Thanks!
Very nice video. Thanks for share!
Thank you. There is the EP.2 with the NOKIA GPON SFP G-010S-A, you can check it out at th-cam.com/video/3g6mRDfUppQ/w-d-xo.html
@@VanTechCorner I already watch it. 😂. It’s very fun to do this hackery.
Дякую друже!
At present, Southeast Asia can be adapted, and our interface is super simple, both Chinese and English, and I can pre-configure it before delivery, and you can use it when you get it!
Hello, may I know the model or brand you are talking about. Please don’t put links because TH-cam will think it is spam and remove the comment.
Available in india?
In addition, all our settings interface has been fully integrated in the web page! No need to enter telnet/ssh
pon stick very good
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Thank you!!!
Great video. I have the same ZTE GPON ONU from my service provider. I stumbled across this video, because I was looking for work around instructions for how to put my ZTE router into Bridge Mode. It turns out that the setting is not there because ISP disabled it in the GUI. I have since discovered that the ISP can remotely configure their customer’s routers to Bridge Mode, but only agree to do it if they pay a very small premium for a static IP address (It’s only $1.5 per month anyway). Are there any advantages to having the SFP+ GPON verses keeping my ISP router and having it put in to Bridge Mode ?
Dear Sir
Your video is extremly interesting. I am a optical guy who develop NGPON2 optics. As you know, NGPON2 using different wavelength from GPON, so NGPON2 is always compatible to GPON. My question is whether we can use old GPON router plus NGPON2 SFP PON stick for NGPON2 network. What I am saying is can I change the GPON to NGPON2 by only add NGPON2 SFP PON stick on my GPON louter. Assuming the NGPON2 signal is available.
Very thank you for your valuable comment.
Does it save the chanhed Mac address and serial number or it will be reset after restarting? Any recommended sfp+ 10G GPON ONU?
What is the reason/advantage of loading OpenWRT onto the SFP?
I wish this would work with AT&T Fiber. Their equipment is garbage. Thanks for the great video!
It's optical, it probably does, you just need to know the specifics of the service (service provider nuances).
@@jamess1787 It does not unfortunately because the authentication AT&T uses for their FTTH network. I tried cloning the MAC but the Certificate used is hard to extract from their equipment.
ISPs in the US could probably get away with literal murder based on the way they're allowed to bribe representatives to sign agreements to disallow competitors to come in. Comcast is getting really bad lately. Last year I had to sign another contract with Comcast to keep my price down. Their discounted plans all had a "you have to use our modem" stipulation. If I wanted to keep the modem I bought, I'd have had to pay something like $200 MORE per month. In my area I don't even think I can get DSL. It's Comcast or whatever WISPs exist here.
Helpful video ,
Is possible to replace bsnl ftth gpon router with Ufiber Loco low . Or same edge router with Gpon sfp+..
Im waiting for future video
Would LTF7219 fit in thia set up
Thanks !
Thank you very much, and frankly, I was very pleased with your explanation about Hisense GPON LTE3415, and I decided to buy it from the Internet, but unfortunately I could not find it. My question to you is, is there any piece equivalent to the one you explained about? I have a Huawei device, model EchoLife HG8240T5 GPON Terminal (CLASS B+). Can I use it with my MikroTik RB5009? I thank you again
Hi, you can take a look at the Nokia G-010S-A which is widely available
th-cam.com/video/3g6mRDfUppQ/w-d-xo.html or the ODI GPON SFP module.
How about using MikroTik RB5009 ? Is it work with it? Thanks
Hey. I have a gpon module. I want the sfp to pass over vlan 100 to the router without vlan. How can I configure it for this. Thanks.
Anh ơi cho em hỏi phần setting chỉ thêm gpon s/n thôi phải không ạ?
After the configuration in the zima board... if I take the sfp module and put it in my Unifi Dream Machine Pro SE, do I have to do anything else?
Basically after you configure the SFP Module (with a Media Converter / x86 OpenWRT Router PC with SFP port, etc) the SFP module will become the ONU/ONT and you can plug it to any system (EdgeRouter Pro / UDM, etc). You can also configure the SFP GPON module with the UDM as well (by create a bridge and assign an IP address, I done this with EdgeRouter, not sure about UDM).
Can GPON works with EDGEROUTER X SFP
can it run with mikrotik?
which type openwrt firmware enable 801.2q vlan setting？
What does this apparatus do?
Do you think is it possible to make it works also with other SPF NICs? Like Connectx-2?
It should be as the SFP GPON module is just a the same with a normal SFP transceiver (module). Unfortunately I don’t have the device to test.
and it is possible to connect several ONUs over fiber to the SFP as if it were any OLT?
Sorry I don't get what you mean. Is this the 2nd part of the question?
Hi, Would this work on Adtran ONU as well?
Hi Van, Does the Hisense GPON LTE3415 can be flash to OpenWrt OS?
Hi, there is no information about this, but the Huawei MA5671A and the Nokia G-010S-A can be flashed with OpenWRT (old release). On my next video, I will talk about the Nokia G-010S-A GPON SFP.
I can't access my ONU web ui to clone the gpon settings. I am assuming they have disable web browser management to prevent customers changing configuration. Is there a way to do it anyway? My iphotonix ONU is very unstable; it drops connection too often and a 1gbps connection drops (on wire) to 10mbps every week, until I reboot the onu
Anyone knows if this work with ISP in Canada?
thanks for all your videos you are very important to explain with this way pls I want to buy a D-Link DIR-842 like you show us a video about openwrt plz answer me soon
Hi, I foud the D-Link DIR-842 C2 when I was working in Malaysia. This device was provided to the customer for free if they sign up for Internet plan from Unifi (TM). That is why the router is sold very cheap secon hand. If you plan to buy a router, I suggesg the Xiaomi Router 4, or the Xiaomi R3G for better support and WiFi coverage.
@@VanTechCorner
thank you very much but their routers no comptible with oprntwrt I use it as access point so i want you to advice me to choose one wich has port usb to extend the memory and install more application and i want it has dual bands 2.4 and 5ghz and be easy to install openwrt without problem or with usb TTL thank you agin
VNPT thì cần những thông tin gì để chạy được vậy bạn?
Hi, I have GPON connection as well and would like to replace ONT and ISP's router with my own gear. If I follow that tutorial, is it guaranteed to work? Do I have to get exactly the same SFP module as in the video?
Hi, the answer is no. You need to understand what is the OLT and find a suitable SFP GPON module ( that can communicate with the OLT)
@@VanTechCorner Doesn't GPON just use PPPoE?
@@VanTechCorner how do we find the olt?
@@chaoscapricorn13 communicate with the staff of the NOC.
which model of ( Mellanox ConnectX-3 ) u are using? its budget?
Sorry for the late response. This is the module that I used, but please take not that it will not work with all type of GPON SFP module th-cam.com/video/6sfs6tvDkg4/w-d-xo.html
Nice! Do you know for any affordable and programmable SFP SC/APC XGSPON?
Hi, for XGSPON, I have no idea. But if you are looking for XPON, I have some suggestion:
- th-cam.com/video/ufzR8e4mubg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NJnJ3o_lh53WrrmE
- th-cam.com/video/G3va7X4PZFo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NnjtcjNvlSG11VqB
Hello, I have a Zyxel XPON router from my ISP, can this SFP module replace a Zyxel ONT? I cannot see Zyxel in Manufacture Id section.
Hello, do you know the full name/model of the ONT and what is your ISP?
Can you send the link to buy the gpon SFP? @Van Tech Corner
Hi, from what I know this product is already EOL so there is no new product available. I can see some new PON sticks available in the market, such as the "GPON/EPON/XPON ONU Stick" sold by ODI, or the Nokia G-010S-A and the Huawei MA5671a ...You can take a look at them (the Huawei MA5671a has an active thread on the OpenWRT forum)
Con zimaboard cộng với cái sfp module thì đắt so với nhu cầu. Có con router budget nào có cổng sfp mua về thay cho cả ont được không bạn?
EdgeRouter X SFP, Mikrotik Hex S, RB2011, RB3011, RB4011 rất nhiều lựa chọn nhé bạn.
Could someone tell me if it is possible to do this with a Hisense LTE3680M-BC+? I have one of these SFP modules, but don't know what the IP address would be to access the GUI or if it is even possible. Wanting to get rid of my ISP provided Huawei HG8240H and plug directly into my UDMP. Help would be appreciated.
Hello, from what I know this module is to insert to the OLT (from the ISP side). It won't work as ONU/ONT (client side).
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Our fiber provider uses active ethernet (ONT is made by Raycore) - what is the difference between that and GPON ????.
Hi, may I know the country? Do you mean Active Optical Network (AON). If yes, here is the comparison done by FS community.fs.com/blog/pon-vs-aon-in-ftth-systems.html
South Africa (ZA) - ours was ducted underground but other providers string the cable along existing street poles, and they use GPON.
Also we just get internet - no TV or VOIP services.
Is it possible for ONU with landline?
Hi, landline has a different cable and ONT/ONU. I have yet to play with it, therefore, I can't provide more info.
Hi I have followed many of your excellent guides as well as onemarcfifty, I am on BT full fibre in the uk I have a ONT connection which goes directly to my r7800 using NSS 22.03 openwrt
Why would one replace the ONT? I am a little puzzled by this what are the benefits to swapping out the ISP connection, I have excellent uptime and my speeds are more or less as advertised
Very curious as to the point of this exercise
Hi, there is pros and cons of doing this and we have another comment discuss this. If you have no issue using the ONT from the ISP, there is no need to replace it. Along the way, when you slowly upgrading your network rack and want to reduce the number of devices to build a nice rack, perhaps you will need one
Where can you get those modules?
Hi, the Hisense LT33415 is dis-continued but you can find the NOKIA GPON SFP G-010S-A, here is an update video about it th-cam.com/video/3g6mRDfUppQ/w-d-xo.html
My ISP router has ACS enabled and has its username and password. Do you know if I can use this to switch my ISP router?
Hi, I have no chance working with ACS so I can be sure it will work. However, I believe it is something configured on the router side, not the Fiber/GPON. First, you will need to understand your ONU and OTL before we can move on.
One small question.
Why eth0.35 device? What is it?
Hi, it means VLAN 35 on eth0 interface. My ISP runs PPPoE on VLAN 35 and I have to configure the same in order to establish the connection.
thanks for this videos ,plz can help me to make the same operation ,I have EdgeRouters 12, ZTE F660 ,FTTH
Hi, sorry for the late response.
From what I know, if the ONT is ZTE, most likely the OLT will be either ALU or ZTE.
In this case, you can try the Nokia G-010S-A which I already made the video. This GPON SFP module should be available on Taobao, AliExpress and other marketplaces.
@@VanTechCorner thanks for replay
Chào bạn. Cho mình hỏi chút Viettel không hỗ trợ người dùng cấu hình bridge thì làm sao quay pppoe trên router được như bạn ?
Khi bạn tự trang bị SFP GPON hoặc ONT, bạn không cần họ cấu hình bridge mode vì lúc này bạn không dùng ONT (thường là ZTE hoặc Dasan). Bạn sẽ cần tài khoản để tạo kết nối PPPoE và thông tin này về nguyên tắc trên hợp đồng Viettel phải bàn giao cho bạn. Bạn nhờ kỹ thuật hoặc tổng đài cung cấp.
@@VanTechCorner thank bạn !
what will be the improvement using the gpon ? more speed?
A little space is saved, and that's it.
No backdoor on the ONT device?
@@somebody301 What can a backdoor do when it is on a separate network, protected by your router/firewall? It is located at your home doesn't mean it can do anything -- it is basically like a malicious device on the Internet.
You will have more control of the devices and more statistic of the “ONT/PON Stick”. Save space, save power and you don’t need a power adapter for the ONU … Less cables, simple setup …These are thing I can think of. There is no clear evidence but the PON stick will also increase the connection stability (both Fiber and Ethernet). I have the PPPoE connection up and running for more than 3 months with no down time.
what about xgs-pon , which one would i need ?
I have yet to use it so no clear information on this. However, I can see that XGS-PON use a different wavelength compare to the GPON, this is something you need to pay attention to when looking for a compatible XGS-PON SFP model/ONU. For the authentication I believe it will be more or less the same...
@@VanTechCorner thank you. and great channel you have very informative and love you videos showcasing openwrt and the latest embedded devices,
@@b4kk4li did you found a solution for xgs-pon?
How can I get the GPON password and ID from the router?
Bạn ơi có thể làm video việt hóa được k ạ
Is this SFP module compatible with Mikrotik 4011 routerboard?
Yes, compatible with Mikrotik 4011
@@vuducdong, thank you. I've just tested it with Mikrotik 4011 and indeed it works great.
Nice... // The suggested video is not working on TH-cam. Consider to mirror to odysee platform as well.. Thank you
Odi anh có hướng dẫn không ạ?
Không em ơi, nhưng ODI về cơ bản hầu như chạy tốt với các nhà mạng ở Việt Nam. Chỉ cần clone đầy đủ các thông tin nó sẽ chạy.
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Viettel.? Chủ kênh người Việt à?
Đúng rồi bạn, mình có ghi trong mục about là kênh từ Vietnam mà.
hình như vpnt ko cho xài module này
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i am still waiting plz answer me
Is there a plug and play approach?😂
看完了，就是个桥接。。。
WHAT?? FPT VIETTEL ?? this is a vietnam ISP
Is this legal?
Yes
No
You decide.
Thanks for the video. I just bought a banana pi R3 which comes with SFP ports. I would like to incorporate the fiber into the piR3, like you did. I live in Turkey and my ISP is Turk Telekom. They installed a Calix T072G ONT at our home. I am looking for an SFP module to buy and would like to get something somewhat 'hackable' because I don't know how flexible the ISP will be with a different ONT. Do you have any recommendation? Thanks a lot!
Hey, you can take a look at the Nokia G-010S-A or the Huawei MA5671a. For the G-010S-A, you can see my recent video for more info th-cam.com/video/3g6mRDfUppQ/w-d-xo.html