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So is smoking a drug more harmful method of administration as opposed to IV administration? Since most physicians administer drugs by way of intravenous access or IM intramuscular….
Joe Rogan’s podcast with Hamilton was entertaining but I didn’t come out of it feeling like a learned anything new. This was 100% more interesting and informative. Great job!
If you think about it Joe Rogan doesn’t know enough about pharmacology to have a substantial conversation. Seth has a lot of knowledge on pharmacology and can bring topics which are more drug based
Seth I hope you are proud of yourself, sincerely you should be. Hamilton is one of your inspirations and to be able to discuss your passion with him on a public platform is awesome. It's entertaining to see because of the content and context. You're doing great. Props to you Seth.
This is gold. Thank you both so much for this discussion, it's really a privilege to have access to the perspectives and the knowledge you've made public here.
I love how freely spoken Morris was on this interview. Also have been watching your content for years now this was an awesome crossover to hear your two voices on the same take.
Criminally underrated podcast, great work as always Seth. I really hope to see future episodes featuring Hamilton, this has to be just about the most informative, fascinating content on TH-cam today.
I’ve always loved to think of chemistry especially organic as the punk rock of science. It does have an edge and that’s why it’s appealing to many. Even the most mundane compounds are really interesting. Great episode so far
Hamilton Morris needs to start a podcast of his own. You're leaving money on the table buddy not only that but the public could benefit greatly from in-depth long format discussions. Possibly focusing on one drug or one group of drugs per episode.
Thank you! Just found out about this great channel! I already knew Hamilton's work since many years, and this podcast didn't let me down, extremely interesting. I really enjoyed your conversation.
Have only heard a few podcasts from the classroom before this one, but you were the perfect counterpart to Hamilton in this sort of linguistic tennis match, compliment each other really well
It's been such a pleasure to watch your channel grow. I still remember when you were the new guy on the block, and here you are today a peer to Hamilton Morris. Cheers, TDC! Here's to even bigger milestones in 2019!
Thank you for the video. Thank you Hamilton and all the supporters of this channel. Salvia was the first “psychoactive” chemical I took besides prescribed medication from accidents. Before school down the street in my truck with friends, that feeling of being stretched, pulled backwards is very true, but I happened to go all the way the first time. Tree took on a matrix visual energy field and I remember being sucked through the truck into the tree and I remember ending up in outerspace looking at the earth with the top right quarter section missing and it was completely pixelated and multicolored. An Elf (played magic the gathering at the time, elf deck was my main deck so I find myself relatively attached to this being), basically was floating in space with me and he held out his hand and told me to follow him. I remember nodding and following the elf and getting pulled in by gravity, rocketed back into my body. First spiritual experience led me to you guessed it “Erowid” where I became very interested in all psychoactive substances and the meaning of hard and soft drugs disintegrated when I realized the difference between OxyContin up the nose is arguably more potent than street heroin a high schooler can typically come across. Same with adderall on high doses brings euphoria similar to methamphetamine (I know that there is a difference in chemical structure and that it is not a d/l isomer amphetamine salt mixture, strictly d-isomer if I have my Erowid knowledge stored in my head correctly). However I absolutely loved this podcast and I am appreciative for all the things both of you are doing to improve society.
It's very refreshing to listen to Hamilton being interviewed by someone with a background in science. I have listened to this interview several times, thanks for the content!
20:45 - I have been looking for a good way to verbalize or describe this point made by Hamilton for so long. It's so easy to legitimize that psilocybin is much healthier than alcohol, but that doesn't mean you should take shrooms every weekend, just like how antibiotics are going to help you at times, you shouldn't take them Everytime you have a minor illness.
This interview was incredible. Two people whose work I love and respect talking to each other about subject matter that I love and respect. Doesn't get much better than that 😜
This is a beautiful podcast. Best interviewer of Hamilton I've seen yet due to your background. We actually get to dig into the weeds rather than see Hamilton trying to explain drug complexities to laymen. Love it.
How am I just now discovering this channel? Although my days of experimenting with crazy new substances or even the classic types ended quite a while ago now as real life kind of took over I still am fascinated with the type of information on this channel. Thanks for doing what you do.
It’s really refreshing to have a discussion at this level. First time listener because of my love of Hamilton, but I am now going to be a long term listener. Really great stuff guys.
At around 1:30:10 though I have no ketamine experience, in my mind I was thinking of my salvia experiences in that context of "getting the message", so I was very glad to hear you mention it! This has been overall a great interview, thank you.
This was insanely interesting & informative, thank you TDC! Really refreshing to see (or rather hear) drugs being discussed in this manner, your channel is a godsend.
Obviously, I'm very late in discovering this video, but it's great to have my two favorite sources of pharmacological information in discussion with one another. It's so important to focus on harm reduction and the reasons why certain substances have been stigmatized, the validation or lack thereof of such an action, and a realistic approach to a safe dosaging. Hamilton Morris is absolutely brilliant and exactly what we need--50 years ago.
2 psychopharmacology gods having a beautiful, respectful and deep discussion about science, politics and human Nature. Love this fucking video, love TDC. Thanks to this channel I've been learning a lot about chemistry and pharmacology. What a lovely subject matter.
Your channel is great and this is by far my favorite interview with someone I also find very interesting and whom I enjoy listening to!! Great job, thanks for sharing!!
the back story to why Methoxetamine was initially synthesized is why I think chemistry can be for good with the right motivation a interesting story and a truly incredible compound
I appreciate everything you do for the community. The pod cast are great, an make almost great arranguments, taking into consideration both side love the perspectives on both your ideas. Keep on doing what your doing seth.👍👍👍🤘🤘👌👌🤩
I once ran around a festival shouting Hamilton's name (among other people) because I thought he/they would teleport to me. Maybe big mushroom doses are an alone time activity... :3 Anyway, great podcast!
Awesome man im glad i found this. i grew up on erowid after my dare counselor told the class it was possible to hear colors and see sounds then got sent to iraq. It has always interested me looking into the science and reading peoples experiences. Im on a path to a degree in chemistry too and im hoping we can keep up with this insane rise of new barely tested compounds pharmaceutical and clandestine. Hopefully we can put all of these new compounds into their proper places and do some much needed research. It is amazing how far we've come though that shows and things like this are even possible
Eszopiclone 12mg gave me intense close eye visuals comparable in shape and appearance to lsd+weed but far more intense and concrete. I was pleased to hear your discussion of GABAergic hallucinogens. I think it’s an especially interesting and unique and not widely enough discussed unique pharmacological effect
How can there be visuals more intense than the ones provided by the combination of LSD and weed? When the LSD is dosed high enough the visuals get so complex that I am not able to comprehend them at all anymore. Like my normal visual field is just one atom and the visuals I perceive in this state are the whole universe.
Zopiclone gave me some interesting visuals too but nothing nearly as mind blowing as LSD with cannabis. I had a pretty scary sleep paralysis experience on it tho. I was sleeping in the old office of my grandfather who had passed away a few days earlier. I took some zopiclone and fell asleep quickly and happily but I awoke in the middle of the night hearing steps from my back that I had turned in the direction of the empty room. They came closer and closer and I was not able to move or scream. It was extremely terrifying but I realised I was in sleep paralysis shortly before the steps reached me and I was able to pull myself out of it. Considering this experience and the fact that low to medium doses of zopiclone combined with weed gave me visuals that don't make sense in three dimensional space I can imagine that high doses of eszopiclone can be very trippy.
I agree, the war on drugs and information is a way to keep people obeying and not manufacturing their own medicine. The war on drugs has slowed down the evolution of humans for 70 years. It's slowly eroding and it's beautiful. keep this up
God I wish I studied pharmacology. I’ve been researching drugs since 14 and it’s by far the topic I have the most knowledge about. I know more about drugs than I do about knowledge relevant to my career and just can’t use it. I’m pretty confident I could hold a conversation on this exact same level with Hamilton yet I have no way of putting my knowledge into practice 🥲
There is a serious lack of intelligent Hamilton Morris interviews out there... You asked all the right questions. Brilliant interview. I just wish there was more content like this with Hamilton.
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This was a fantastic episode brother. Thank you for what you do
Spotify 👍 thank you!
I have very much enjoyed it. Thanks for all your hard work in this field, you are a good few that i consider great
Can you please do a video on Parnate? Please please please. I am about to start it and I can’t find any information on it.
Methadone man its long due
This is one of the best interviews I’ve heard with him
Agreed!
Moth THE best
Mothman y’all related?
Mothman my son...I have found you
Moth - 😉 Best comment I've read in a long time!
Ah nice you got Hamilton! This is going to be a fascinating listen 👂
cool to see you here :)
Balls
What the hell??? Tom watches Hamilton and TDC?????
@@yogurt1924 I agree!
Holy crap, haven't clicked a youtube notification e-mail this fast in a LONG time.
Stadium ARTs agreed man
Holy shit, am i dreaming?
mista RIGHT?
This is great
Holy dream am i shitting
yes you're dreaming
Wow, Hamilton and TDC, great work, keep it up!
pangod666 killer, right?
Hamilton Morris is the Hero of Harm Reduction
Well and TDC
He doesn't go that much into harm reduction. Ethan Nadelman is the hero of harm reduction!
So is smoking a drug more harmful method of administration as opposed to IV administration?
Since most physicians administer drugs by way of intravenous access or IM intramuscular….
Joe Rogan’s podcast with Hamilton was entertaining but I didn’t come out of it feeling like a learned anything new. This was 100% more interesting and informative. Great job!
Rogan didn't even bother to watch a single episode of Pharmacopia. Is it that hard to do a little bit of prep work?
Tom Tricker right? And it’s a great fucking show seems like it would be right up joes alley
Proteus Forest 1000%
If you think about it Joe Rogan doesn’t know enough about pharmacology to have a substantial conversation. Seth has a lot of knowledge on pharmacology and can bring topics which are more drug based
Tom Tricker that’s Jamie’s job.... sheesh joe is just supposed to look pretty and talk about wolves chickens and the clinch
Seth I hope you are proud of yourself, sincerely you should be. Hamilton is one of your inspirations and to be able to discuss your passion with him on a public platform is awesome. It's entertaining to see because of the content and context. You're doing great. Props to you Seth.
Bob dole is one of your inspirations
@@BlackenzieSmithe hi dad
Fantastic interview Seth. You're the perfect person to interview Hamilton Morris.
IKHOMPYUTHA agreed
That's what I was thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An excellent interview with intelligent questions by an interviewer who knows what he's talking about. A good match. Thank you!
This is gold. Thank you both so much for this discussion, it's really a privilege to have access to the perspectives and the knowledge you've made public here.
I love how freely spoken Morris was on this interview. Also have been watching your content for years now this was an awesome crossover to hear your two voices on the same take.
Criminally underrated podcast, great work as always Seth. I really hope to see future episodes featuring Hamilton, this has to be just about the most informative, fascinating content on TH-cam today.
High quality stuff Seth. Regards from Spain
I’ve always loved to think of chemistry especially organic as the punk rock of science. It does have an edge and that’s why it’s appealing to many. Even the most mundane compounds are really interesting. Great episode so far
You rock buddy!
Two of the most positively influential people to me having a conversation. This is absolutely beautiful..
Collab of the century!! Amazing seth, love you and your channel, keep up the good work
The collab we all needed but none of us deserved
Hamilton Morris needs to start a podcast of his own. You're leaving money on the table buddy not only that but the public could benefit greatly from in-depth long format discussions. Possibly focusing on one drug or one group of drugs per episode.
He actually has one. Look op his patreon (Hamiltonmorris) he posts them there
Thank you! Just found out about this great channel! I already knew Hamilton's work since many years, and this podcast didn't let me down, extremely interesting. I really enjoyed your conversation.
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vice might be a hot mess, but the stuff Hamilton did I always appreciated
Have only heard a few podcasts from the classroom before this one, but you were the perfect counterpart to Hamilton in this sort of linguistic tennis match, compliment each other really well
It's been such a pleasure to watch your channel grow. I still remember when you were the new guy on the block, and here you are today a peer to Hamilton Morris. Cheers, TDC! Here's to even bigger milestones in 2019!
Thank you for the video. Thank you Hamilton and all the supporters of this channel. Salvia was the first “psychoactive” chemical I took besides prescribed medication from accidents. Before school down the street in my truck with friends, that feeling of being stretched, pulled backwards is very true, but I happened to go all the way the first time. Tree took on a matrix visual energy field and I remember being sucked through the truck into the tree and I remember ending up in outerspace looking at the earth with the top right quarter section missing and it was completely pixelated and multicolored. An Elf (played magic the gathering at the time, elf deck was my main deck so I find myself relatively attached to this being), basically was floating in space with me and he held out his hand and told me to follow him. I remember nodding and following the elf and getting pulled in by gravity, rocketed back into my body.
First spiritual experience led me to you guessed it “Erowid” where I became very interested in all psychoactive substances and the meaning of hard and soft drugs disintegrated when I realized the difference between OxyContin up the nose is arguably more potent than street heroin a high schooler can typically come across. Same with adderall on high doses brings euphoria similar to methamphetamine (I know that there is a difference in chemical structure and that it is not a d/l isomer amphetamine salt mixture, strictly d-isomer if I have my Erowid knowledge stored in my head correctly). However I absolutely loved this podcast and I am appreciative for all the things both of you are doing to improve society.
Coleman Remington I can’t imagine starting with salvia of all things. Prohibition ftw
When the legends meet. Next is the ghost of Sasha, or maybe just get Anne on. Keep up the good work Seth!
Oh my god congrats Seth!!!!
Gui Kirsch what a catch, right?
Incredibly stimulating and inspiring conversation. Thanks a lot for that!
Thanks for putting out quality content this is insane thanks!
Glad for another Hamilton video coming online, glad you got a good guest like Hamilton on!!
It's very refreshing to listen to Hamilton being interviewed by someone with a background in science. I have listened to this interview several times, thanks for the content!
My dad is a pretty straight-laced medical journalist, but he wanted you to know he found this fascinating and very professional
Great, I'm glad he liked the conversation!
20:45 - I have been looking for a good way to verbalize or describe this point made by Hamilton for so long. It's so easy to legitimize that psilocybin is much healthier than alcohol, but that doesn't mean you should take shrooms every weekend, just like how antibiotics are going to help you at times, you shouldn't take them Everytime you have a minor illness.
Amazing talk with Hamilton. Thank you TDC
Excellent episode - certainly the most interesting and in-depth out of Morris's recent podcast round.
Awesome! This is long overdue!!
This interview was incredible. Two people whose work I love and respect talking to each other about subject matter that I love and respect. Doesn't get much better than that 😜
😝
I think I'm gonna listen to these more often in the future, this was...amazing
Awe man! This is just GREAT!!! Thank you both!
Woooo Hooooooo!!!
Hamilton Morris on TDC on Christmas Eve! My night of wrapping presents just got WAY BETTER! Merry Christmas!!!
Absoloutely incredible! I really look up to both of you and aspire to be like both of you
Gsg uppity
@@jonbigeffortthegoodness7437 hell yeah man. Different place now but I always have respect for Hamilton. Absolute god
This is my favorite of your podcasts, as well my favorite of Hamilton's interviews. Definitely saving this one to listen to again.
Just discovered your channel through your phenibut video. Im a fan of Hamilton. This interview was superb! So many great topics covered.
So awesome!!! Hamilton's show is so good.
What a treat !!!
I've been following your channel for a long time, I'm so glad you decided to start doing podcast segments on your channel.
Thank you
Hands down the best interview yet, I've been following his work since 2015 and this one is truly the best.
This is a beautiful podcast. Best interviewer of Hamilton I've seen yet due to your background. We actually get to dig into the weeds rather than see Hamilton trying to explain drug complexities to laymen. Love it.
How am I just now discovering this channel? Although my days of experimenting with crazy new substances or even the classic types ended quite a while ago now as real life kind of took over I still am fascinated with the type of information on this channel. Thanks for doing what you do.
It’s really refreshing to have a discussion at this level. First time listener because of my love of Hamilton, but I am now going to be a long term listener. Really great stuff guys.
Best way to start the day. Thank you!
Thanks for listening!
At around 1:30:10 though I have no ketamine experience, in my mind I was thinking of my salvia experiences in that context of "getting the message", so I was very glad to hear you mention it! This has been overall a great interview, thank you.
This was insanely interesting & informative, thank you TDC! Really refreshing to see (or rather hear) drugs being discussed in this manner, your channel is a godsend.
Hamilton need more exposure. He's very well versed and love listening to him. You learn a lot.
Thank you for this podcast, been following you since dexedrine.
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Amazing!! So happy to see Hamilton on here
Obviously, I'm very late in discovering this video, but it's great to have my two favorite sources of pharmacological information in discussion with one another. It's so important to focus on harm reduction and the reasons why certain substances have been stigmatized, the validation or lack thereof of such an action, and a realistic approach to a safe dosaging. Hamilton Morris is absolutely brilliant and exactly what we need--50 years ago.
Lets give a shout out to Erowid while we're here.
Fantastic podcast, love Hamilton and what he does. Best I have listened to with him, you know how to ask the right questions, keep it up Seth!
2 psychopharmacology gods having a beautiful, respectful and deep discussion about science, politics and human Nature.
Love this fucking video, love TDC. Thanks to this channel I've been learning a lot about chemistry and pharmacology. What a lovely subject matter.
Your channel is great and this is by far my favorite interview with someone I also find very interesting and whom I enjoy listening to!! Great job, thanks for sharing!!
I hope you revive this channel. One of my favorite. Do another hammy interview too!!
so excited for this one. good job!
This is hands down one of my favorite podcasts of all time.
Thank you for this interview, good questions good answers!
One of the best podcasts I have ever heard.
Hell yeah, I love hamilton. Gonna be a good 2 hours
This is was an epic podcasts, we need more educational podcasts like this.
We love your perspective Hamilton morris
the back story to why Methoxetamine was initially synthesized is why I think chemistry can be for good with the right motivation a interesting story and a truly incredible compound
Where. Did. It. All. Gooooooooooo
I appreciate everything you do for the community. The pod cast are great, an make almost great arranguments, taking into consideration both side love the perspectives on both your ideas. Keep on doing what your doing seth.👍👍👍🤘🤘👌👌🤩
SO HAPPY to see this episode!!!! Good shit getting Hamilton MORRIS on the show!
I once ran around a festival shouting Hamilton's name (among other people) because I thought he/they would teleport to me.
Maybe big mushroom doses are an alone time activity... :3
Anyway, great podcast!
This was incredibly good content.
I had no clue you did podcasts have watched a ton of your videos. But you got Hamilton????? Thank you for this vid!!!!!
I love the “S-ketamine” anecdote. I hate when people say different LSD tabs have different feels just based on the blotter. It’s placebo.
Hamilton Morris - for the love of the game
21 minutes in and this is gold
Thanks you for putting alll this information! :)
Another Great Podcast! Love Hamilton’s work.
Excellent discussion gentlemen.
Thank you, Seth! An amazing and very informative interview!
Problem one of the biggest problems with RC s and street drugs in general is proper dosage
Love this channel so much. Keep up the great work Seth!
Awesome man im glad i found this. i grew up on erowid after my dare counselor told the class it was possible to hear colors and see sounds then got sent to iraq. It has always interested me looking into the science and reading peoples experiences. Im on a path to a degree in chemistry too and im hoping we can keep up with this insane rise of new barely tested compounds pharmaceutical and clandestine.
Hopefully we can put all of these new compounds into their proper places and do some much needed research. It is amazing how far we've come though that shows and things like this are even possible
Amazing interview
Nice! I like Hamilton Morris! Awesome interview!
Yusssss two of my favorite people !
Eszopiclone 12mg gave me intense close eye visuals comparable in shape and appearance to lsd+weed but far more intense and concrete. I was pleased to hear your discussion of GABAergic hallucinogens. I think it’s an especially interesting and unique and not widely enough discussed unique pharmacological effect
How can there be visuals more intense than the ones provided by the combination of LSD and weed? When the LSD is dosed high enough the visuals get so complex that I am not able to comprehend them at all anymore. Like my normal visual field is just one atom and the visuals I perceive in this state are the whole universe.
Zopiclone gave me some interesting visuals too but nothing nearly as mind blowing as LSD with cannabis. I had a pretty scary sleep paralysis experience on it tho. I was sleeping in the old office of my grandfather who had passed away a few days earlier. I took some zopiclone and fell asleep quickly and happily but I awoke in the middle of the night hearing steps from my back that I had turned in the direction of the empty room. They came closer and closer and I was not able to move or scream. It was extremely terrifying but I realised I was in sleep paralysis shortly before the steps reached me and I was able to pull myself out of it. Considering this experience and the fact that low to medium doses of zopiclone combined with weed gave me visuals that don't make sense in three dimensional space I can imagine that high doses of eszopiclone can be very trippy.
I agree, the war on drugs and information is a way to keep people obeying and not manufacturing their own medicine. The war on drugs has slowed down the evolution of humans for 70 years. It's slowly eroding and it's beautiful. keep this up
Great Podcast! Love Hamilton, does he have a book that can get me into Pharmacology?
Shulgin's PHIKAL and THIKAL are requisite.. however not exactly starting points.
Check out his interview with Tim Ferris, he lists a half dozen of his 'must reads'.
God I wish I studied pharmacology. I’ve been researching drugs since 14 and it’s by far the topic I have the most knowledge about. I know more about drugs than I do about knowledge relevant to my career and just can’t use it.
I’m pretty confident I could hold a conversation on this exact same level with Hamilton yet I have no way of putting my knowledge into practice 🥲
There is a serious lack of intelligent Hamilton Morris interviews out there... You asked all the right questions. Brilliant interview. I just wish there was more content like this with Hamilton.
Fascinating podcast, thanks!
wow! fascinating about Al Most! that is wild. this is such an amazing interview!
Thanks for doing this Seth and Hamilton! Great episode :D
I saw this and felt little butterflies.
Psilocybin causes overwhelming synchronicity to people anecdotally..
Please convince Adam from psyched substance to interview Hamilton! For the community!
Vote for Hamilton morris as Drug minister
I wish Hamilton would start a podcast or education channel on the science of different substances.