The Micro Four Thirds manufacturers have left their historic buyers behind. They have focused on equipment specialized in professional video, often much larger than a full frame. And they have neglected those of us looking for a compact, portable, yet robust system. If manufacturers want to keep the Micro Four Thirds system alive, they need to go back to producing more compact mid-range and high-end equipment. In this regard, I fondly remember David Thorpe's channel, which always showcased the essence of what Micro Four Thirds used to be.
You (we) may be waiting forever for a small body update. I’m afraid that train has left the station. Better think about sourcing a small camera before the prices, which have been going higher, continues to increase. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Yes yes yes yes!! For gods sake. The GM5 with 20mm 15mm 45mm lenses was SUCH a monster of a camera in a literally palm sized package. I want it back!!!!!!
Panasonic should make a GX10 with weather sealing like the GX8, but the GX9 form factor and tilt screen with a modification that allows the screen to tilt all the way under like the PEN E-P7. The GM5 is small, but has its limitation with fixed screen. The GX9 is much slimmer than the GX8 so if they could make a new GX10 that is the same size as the GX9 but include the weather sealing, it would be a winner!
The GM5 is unique. I think making a modern GM5 successor is more important than a GX9. A GM5 class body just can't be touched by any competitor, the GX9 can.
@@log791 But not actually heavy at all, being imperceptibly heavier than my iPhone 15 Pro Max. At least with the 45mm f1.8 lens currently fitted with both implements sat six inches to my right just now.
@@hedydd2 Well, ~290g vs ~420g. The rest is all opinion. So my opinion: I prefer the much lighter weight to the features like IBIS. The only thing I'd miss from a GM5 is the swivel screen. I have the GX85, and I don't like its weight and grip. I even prefer my GF1's grip to it.
@@GungKrisna12 Basically a LX100ii with better EVF, updated Leica software, and designed like a Q3. The D-Lux8 still doesn’t have PDAF. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Today finally received my GM5! It came with 12-32mm lens, and with external flash. All black. And with original packaging. Very good deal - even lower than the prices you named in the video. And with just over 4k shutter count! Also have two GM1 bodies with similar low shutter count, acquired from same source (not Japan) for prices significantly lower the ones on MPB. Your videos are very inspiring! Keep them coming!
I've had my GM5 since it was launched and is still being used to this day. I'm glad there are poeple out there who still enjoys this little beast of a camera. They should definitely make an updated version at this size.
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I bought my GM-5 a year ago (like new, only 250 shutter release count). This is my no 1 camera now (I have many more G9, E-P7, GM-1, GR III, LX100II but they are too big for me). I have been using m43 from its day one with Lumix G1 and still today I love m43 for what it was and for what it is. During my journey I lost joy of photography for sometime with all these big cameras I owned, but GM-1 and now GM-5 brings smile on my face every time I use these tiny gems. If Panasonic release GM-5 successor I am the first in line to buy it :)
I bought one of these used from Europe about 5yrs ago, and lost it in the first month during an emergency move to a different home. Today I found the camera, 2 lenses, and the original box. After thanking God multiple times, I nearly cried, and I'm a grown ass man.
Totally agree with you Emily! We need an updated version. I do not have one but I would buy a new version for sure with all the latest bells and whistles. I do like my LX100.2 and GX850 which are similar in size I think. Thank you for the video, great work as always! Take care!
I have a GM5 for 1 year now (353 Euros). Your video on the GM1 gave me the idea to get one. I have it with me at the office every day. A lot of buttons for such a small camera. The only thing I am missing is a tilting LCD for low angle shots.
I agree with you guys. Micro four thirds format should be continued. Not all fans fancy to drag a along a bag full of photographic equipment but we do want that magical picture quality that these gems have to offer.
I have one of these lovelies too (and I have the Gm1). Got the last new GM5 in Canada, for a good price about 7 years ago, maybe longer. Used it so much I basically wore out the thumb dial. Did you know that it originally came with a tiny mountable flash? But to be honest, I feel the G100 is a much better camera, though it is a bit larger, but that actually makes it easier to use. And I have 2 of those! I agree with you about begging LUMIX to please make more small cameras! Thanks for another great video.
Hi Marlen. I am thinking about getting a G100 one day. Now that the G100D is out I am waiting for one being available in my country (I can't believe there is not even a single store selling it in France - only available online and again not even French online stores - this is silly).
@@ImageMaven Back at you Marlene! Looking forward to your how to videos reappearing. Could YOU talk to LUMIX and advocate for us? It looks like lumix is abandoning photographers in order to focus on larger video bodies. Look at the S9 abomination. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
@@martingreenberg870 Hey Marty. Great to hear from you again. Not sure how much pull I have with LUMIX but I’ll definitely let them know that a lot of folks are looking for small photo centric cameras. It’s a tough market to crack these days because most people just use their phones for every-day-carry and vacation photos.
I got an excellent condition GM5 from MPB last year for just £280-with the mountable flash! I didn't realise how lucky I was. It was my first camera, and I have loved using it. With the Lumix/Leica 15mm f1.8 or the Lumix 12-32 kit lens, it is truly a wonder. My friends with 'real cameras' can't quite believe what I get out of it!
I wonder how many ‘this is my favourite/first camera’s’ you’ve had, Emily!!!! And no doubt more to come!!! Loved this review! Yes, would be nice to see a modern version of this particular camera.
My goodness! I had both the GX800 and the GM1 and sold them both to buy the GX80. Both are great cameras but the GX80 is perfection IMO as it has everything I want from a compact MFT camera and takes excellent photos and videos. I wish I kept the GX800 though, as these cameras have become so expensive to buy now.
Thank you so much for the review! I managed to find one for £420 with 12-32mm lens included! Very happy. What would be the most usable lens for travel - lots of landscapes (with my mobile I find I don't like 1x framed pictures, and prefer 2x for landscapes), some zoom, some portraits.
I bought one new in 2015. At first my fumble prone fingers hitting closely spaced buttons on the back and inadvertently changing settings drove me crazy. But then I adapted and learned. Now I love it. I bought it for its small size and EVF. I like to travel light, I do a great deal of motorcycle touring and want a camera that does not take up a lot of space and allow me more than a smartphone. I’d trade the small EVF for a flip screen. I rarely use the video on this camera, I’d like to see similar sized highly capable camera without the video features, a bigger EVF and flip screen, I’d buy it in a minute.
I have a red one. A little rubber finger grip on the front from Amazon made it much more pleasant to hold. I live in southern California and the back screen frequently is unusable because it is just too dim in bright light. EVF saves the day. You can find an extended rubber eyepiece for the EVF that prevents the washout from sunlight coming in from the side. I do love it though. It stopped working once and found that my local camera shop was able to get it repaired. I do wish that Fujifilm would study it and the Sony RX100 to truly learn how to miniaturize. Love your videos.
I have two of them.The GM5 ist the best Lumix ever.I use this cam more than my GX9 and 8.With nice Leica lens you will have best quality pictures. The dials and the buttons have very better feeling as the gx9 buttons. I wish me a new GM or GX in high quality housing. Nice review. Best regards from germany.
I really love my Olympus PENs, a PL2, PL6, and PL8, because they are small and just do it all, and the built-in waggy sensor works better than a dog's tail for correction shake! More importantly, regarding your painted beater cam, when travelling, there are places, where a cruddy looking camera with gritty graffiti spray-paint is actually a good thing, because it's like WHO WANTS IT??? If you can disguise a Ferrari as a golden-beige BMC Princess or a totally rusted out Fiat Uno of unidentifiable colour, that is a good thing Try going there with a high end Leica instead, and see what happens to your neck strap and accessory bags
I bought a used GX80 for street photography and a handy pocket camera. A bit bigger than the GM5 but comes with a tilting screen, great for discrete street photography. I use it with a 25mm 7artisan f/1.8. I'm very happy with it as a 2nd body.
@@martingreenberg870I think therein lies part of the problem: people who really want a small, pocketable camera that they can use their collection of m43 lenses on will mostly be happy with a second hand GM5, or a GM1 or GX1/7/9/80, and turn tracking them down into a branch of their hobby. They may buy a GM5ii if it is made, but might decide not to if the screen is or isn't fully articulated, or is or isn't fold-out. Equally, they may buy a second hand GX80/850/GX9/ GX7. Meanwhile a sizeable chunk of folks using a GH5 upgraded when the GH6 arrived, and again with the GH7.
Nice find! Love the GM5! I must get one again sometime. I'd love for them to pop in a modern sensor BUT fear there's some serious heat management to take care of. The new sensor would probably need a new processor, which would probably also need a new battery, and the three of them will also probably generate more heat - and there's nowhere for it to go in a camera this size. Hence the S5, which is probably about as small as they can now go with a modern processor and battery. That's my fear. I hope I'm wrong.
Let’s face it Gordon, when it comes to cameras you are seldom wrong. Like everyone who has dropped a comment here, I like small lightweight cameras. Great point about heat dissipation! Maybe the small body invission needs to be placed in a S9 body. So be it. I’m hoping the clever LUMIX engineers can figure something out. I look at the Ricoh GRiii for inspiration. How did they jam an APSC body into that tiny body? If Ricoh can do that, what can the lumix engineers do for us? Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret
Love your video on this. The real spirit of Micro Four Thirds. Just managed to pick up a minty fresh, red GM5! Unreal how small they actually are! Only about 270g with the 14mm 2.5!
I love mine, I imported the red one about 2 years ago from GB for a way to high price. But the red version is even harder to come by. The only good thing it had a shutter count of 650 and the MFT to Leica adapter within the package. I think im gonna cry if that one ever dies. But it was hard to get one when I bought it, and unfortunately it did not get any easier.
My third camera and my first M4/3 ! i absolutely love it, got it for 400€ with 3 lenses, Mzuiko 45mm // lumix 45-200 and 12-32 kit lenses, and it's was a really great deal i think. i've waited and checked marketplace everyday and i got lucky after a few month. A piece of advice, get a second battery as soon as you can. The camera is 10 years old, so are the battery that come with it, so grab a new one when they are still sold.
Even brand new a 2nd or 3rd battery is an excellent idea! New cameras don’t even come it’s chargers anymore. These small bodies have small batteries. The good news is 2nd party battery manufacturers provide chargers and batteries at a reasonable price. Since the extra batteries as so small they are easy to take with us when we go out to use our small cameras. Mask On Nurse Marty(Ret)
cool, after getting a GM-1, I started looking for a GM-5, just got one too after looking for a year, so far its been awesome to use where I have to have a viewfinder!
Same sentiment. I held on my m43 equipment because of its overall size. Instead of playing on its strengths Oly and Pana keeps on making bigger and bulkier cameras
Preach!!!!!! I literally want this camera in silver badly! If Lumix built two new cameras off of this the GM5 &/or the LX15 they could literally dominate the travel/edc camera market instead of trying to market to phone users!
I got lucky when I bought my GM5 on eBay in 2019 at a price that is half of what I see currently listed on eBay. It was in mint condition with the original packaging. It came (to Canada) all the way from Romania. I absolutely love the little gem.
Any viewers know if the Japaense to English workaround works on a GX85? Recently subscribed here. Thanks for all your tiny camera series videos Emily! I have an S5 but have been finding it to be too chunky to want to take around when doing fun stuff with family. I've been leaving it at home for personal stuff and just using my iPhone. However, I think I've landed on trying to get a GX85 as my "dad cam", and I found a well priced one but the description says it is in Japanese.
Hi as you like little camera, s just wanted to tell you about my first panasonic lumix camera it wasn't a 4/3 but l realy had lots of realy good fotos and short vids with it , yes it was a Lumix TZ 22 and it was a fantastic blue , also metal would probably fit into your small camera collection, you had a lot of things to play with on it , l still have it somewhere in its box , Barrie
I have one of these and have gotten some beautiful photos with the kit 12-32mm lens. I wish they'd update it with a brighter EVF and tilting screen. They would sell like crazy.
I remember walking into my local camera shop and the manager showing me the GM series camera. We both marvelled at how cute it was but I dismissed it at the time as being something I wanted to buy. Oh how I wish I had picked up a copy!
A GM5 mk ll, w G9 LL sensor and weather sealing (w weather sealed kit lens), latest software obviously would be fantastic for hiking/climbing/cycling/outdoor enthusiasts that don't want to carry a bunch of bulky camera gear, as well as obviously travel/candid photography
I love my GM5. I have bought and sold several Lumix and Olympus bodies since getting the GM5. They might have had more features and slightly better image quality, but none of them made me want to take more pictures the way the GM5 does. The GM5, Fuji X10, and Ricoh GR are the gems of the small camera world.
I love GM1&5 too : ) As a Lumix user I'm so frustrated that the MFT compact is being left behind by Panasonic. Isn’t DJI OSMO Pocket 3 enough to prove that compact products with 1" sensor can also sell very well? They still think Lumix compact can't!? XD
I love my GX85 and while it's a smidge larger than the GM5 it's still as small as my hands could comfortably handle, has a great flippy screen, EVF, decent 4K video and IBIS.
I have both, the GM5 as well as the GX8. GM5 is the best for travelling and as soon the weight and size is impotant. The EVF works better than I thought first. Even the cam is 10 years old, the noise is not dramatically higher than the GX8. I have used it during some business trips also for TWAN (the world at night) as well as for Astrophotos (using a simple Genie mini as a tracker). The 12-32mm and the low end 35-100mm are a good choice zoom lenses - but also the 42.5 F1.7 prime fits very well to the camera. I love it and have it often along with me as an additional backup or as second cam. Thanks for the video. Ralph
Beware of the failing back dial and failing power switch. Very common failures. My dial died long ago. And every time I use it I think it will be the day the power switch breaks. I still love it for the size and eVF. I am with you though. I'd pay a bunch for an updated one.
Certainly a great find. People are going to talk about 4 things it doesn't do: 1) flip-out screen; 2) IBIS; 3) meagre 1/50 sync; 4) 4k video. I'm sure Panasonic would say: "get the G100D", which is a good compromise, but it doesn't really solve many problems either. What about "get the S9", but then you don't get any small lenses or a shutter/possibility for flash. Those compromises are nothing when considering the size and it still is the smallest DSLM with a hotshoe and EVF.
Great video of a very cool camera. If the chatter on TH-cam is a true indication (and who knows if it is) the photography world is ready for a new generation of compact, range-finder-style interchangeable lens cameras, and MFT is in the perfect position to be the best platform for them. Hopefully, Lumix and OMS are listening.
Thanks, love your videos! Around 800 euros for this now on Ebay, no way it's mad! Very happy I just bought an GX80 with the kit lens for just 275 euros!!
I got the same in red with a 20mm 1.7 and a 12-32 for versatility. Good quality but the screen and the visor are really bad but very helpfull outside. A strap like wiimote is very cool on it because you dont have any grip. A real beast
Thank you for mentioning the possibility of changing Japanese only menus to English! It is so frustrating to find a prime example of a Lumix camera on eBay, only to find the menu is Japanese only. I've never understood why a manufacturer would lock a camera down to one language, especially when the other languages are already there, but hidden.
Emily and you are influencers. PLEASE advocate to LUMIX on our behalf for this. I would purchase a GM5 or GX8/80(85)/9 body with these features. Based on the comments on videos like this there is a market for this body. Maybe larger than the S9 market. Mask On Nurse Marty(Ret)
I love my GM5. Mine is red. It's my primary camera. The only thing I don't like is the focus and exposure lock. I don't miss the lack of IBIS as much as I thought I would.
This camera with the G9-II sensor and some limitations like up to 4k30 only, no mechanical shutter, PDAF without the object detection and all the stuf that needs a lot of power. This would be great. With IBIS would be even better but I don't know if this is possible in this size.
The GM5 and GM1 had mech shutters. It was simply a questionable mistake not having it on the S9. But yeah IBIS would be pretty tough without adding significant thickness. Thankfully fast tiny f/1.7 lenses can eliminate shake for the most part.
Thank you so much for making this!! Bought myself a red and black gm5 about the same time you bought yours and love it too. Although I would say my gm1 has sharper photos than gm5 even though same sensor.
Die GM5 ist eine wunderbare Kamera. Zu jedem Preis? Ich hatte eine GM5 bekommen, leider mit Kratzer auf dem Sensor und habe sie wieder zurück gegeben. Jetzt habe ich eine GX800 gekauft, auch schick und klein. Was die GM5 zur GX800 nicht hat ist Peaking in rot und L Monochrom. 🥰 Ein bewegliches Display ist auch nett. Ich habe den Hype GM5 los gelassen und genieße die Freude an der GX800. 😀
💯. Now that the AF, Lens tech are more or less matured, it's time to come back to this type of camera which was the original ethos. I will buy one in a heartbeat.
The GM5 was my dream tiny Micro Four Thirds camera, but it's extremely hard to find used. The ones I could find are asking as much as when the camera was new! ($800+). I also looked for the GM1, but it's too pricey used too, so I ended up getting the GX850. Good compromise between tiny and cheap, with good quality (no AA filter). If Panasonic could revive the GM series with just the 20MP sensor, never mind the new 25MP sensor, it would be a dream!
GX9ii would be phenomenal, or an LX100iii/LX200. With PDAF? I’m not sure why Panasonic hasn’t done it because it would be proper competition to the X100 or GRIII
Absolutely, Panasonic, please update this with maybe the following icings on the cake: the new PDAF, 4K, weather sealed, IBIS, a microphone port and maybe maybe a flippy screen (if it doesn't make it too heavy)... that would be my dream EDC camera! :)
I concur with your icing on the cake except I prefer a tilting screen. That screen is more in line with a small body. Here’s hoping. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
@@log791 I could also live without IBIS, but for some people it's indispensable... maybe one option would be to include gyro data to get excellent post production stabilization!
I have and use both cameras, GM1 and GM5. In my experience both have the same quality regarding materials and build. Besides the obvious differences with EVF, hot shoe, and scroll wheel another advantage of the GM5 is the possibility to quickly toggle the screen's touch function on and off. The lack of this is in my view the biggest nuisance of the GM1. And I fully agree: this is how MFT cameras should look like.
Yes, yes, yes, we want updated small MFT cameras! The GX80 has become the digital camera I carry when I'm shooting film to grab some video and to continue shooting after I finish my roll. I'm really enjoying it. If it had Real Time LUT, v-log, PDAF and an EVF that doesn't give me rainbow vision I'd be even happier, but it's like 90% there for the perfect camera, especially for street photography.
Wow that's a really nice sample of the GM5 you got there, it looks really brand new, congrats! 🎉🎉 Regarding the controls, I don't find the combined wheel and D-pad on the GM1 and others problematic myself, but it's a matter of taste I guess. The reason I in fact prefer it is because it's a more robust construction that is less prone to failing on older cameras. The back wheel found on the GM5, shared with others including GX9 is quite prone to failing unfortunately. It starts with the controls being erratic, and eventually failing altogether. In fact it's such a common fault that you can find lots of posts about it on forums and I even found a guide how to replace it, which I had to do on my GM5, which is now working fine again. Spare part replacement wheel assembly was found in Aliexpress at the time, because there is a market for this part. Panasonic isn't alone with issues with this kind of Wheel design, even some seriously tough Nikon DSLR:s have the same issue with them. Anyways, I really hope there will be an updated GM5 like release from Panasonic, that would be really awesome! 🥳🎈🎈
So happy to see this video, and extremely happy to see how much you liked it! I really hope someone from Lumix watches this video and reads the comments and realises that there are enough diehard fans to justify a new GM!
I've always been hearing people singing praises for the GM5 and after briefly owning a GX9 and hating the EVF since I'd started with a GX8, I've always wondered why. But now I get it.
@@GrahamAtDesk heh I wasn't but I suspect there was an issue with my GX9's EVF. It was blurry so there was no way for me to see the entire image in one clear shot. It was like the Diopter adjustment didn''t go far enough. The thing is I'd used a GX85 before and don't remember having an issue with that. Eventually I sold the GX9 because of that and the AF missed too many easy shots, compared to my other cameras. LOVED the form factor tho
Looks very like a GX80 to me. The Gx80 even has a flippy screen, pop up flash as well as hotshoe and video button in a better place. Plus in-body stabilisation and the newer soft shutter that eliminates shutter shock which was an issue with earlier Lumix cameras.
My GM5 is my favorite tiny camera, a very well designed camera. Glad you talked about it, as we don't find a lot of content about it on TH-cam. I paid mine 250 euros (with the tiny flash and the 12-32mm lens) 2 years ago here in France (on a a local used market plateform between people), a real bargain !
Crazy, I was just thinking about getting a GM5 and a 14-140mm as a travel/all-in-one. Went with a Nikon 1 mount J5 instead, mainly because of cost. Might still do the GM5 one day - the GM5 and 14-140mm actually weighs less than the Nikon J5 and 10-100mm (27-270mm equivalent) despite being larger.
Really want LUMIX to update the GX85/80. Add IBIS and update the AF to the new system that actually works. 16 MP sensor with a fast readout and keep the AA filter far away from me! Do not need to add megapixels! Tilt screen, not a flip out screen. The old one is still a great camera for travel, amazing photo quality in a tiny (but heavy, which I actually like) package.Also great as an EDC camera with a small prime/zoom combo!
Yes. Yes it is too much to ask for. Reconcile yourself that lumix is out of the small and lightweight camera body business. So sad. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Totally agree with you (and I have been shooting with this for a few years). Just be careful with the on/off button and treat it very gently, as that's the only weak spot in its design (better to let it go to sleep than turning it off and on all the time). What a shame the S9 is not built to the same specs WITH a viewfinder, even a small one!:)!
I think make two versions. One with all the bells and whistles and m43 mount just like the gm1/gm5. Then make one with a fixed lens to give competition to the Ricoh GR in a crazy small package that fits every pocket
Agree! Also just want to leave a comment, that Panasonic needs to focus on cameras like this! I sold my GM5, because it wasn't that great in the low light. But oh man, when paired with 14 2.5 or 15 1.7 on the wide and 45 1.8 or 42.5 1.7 on the tele it was great. Also kit lens 12-32 together with the small 35-100 made great combo! I wish there would be mark 2. If they could do this 10 years ago, imagine what they could do now!
I replaced my too small GM1 with the E-PL7. GM5 and E-PL7 were released at the same time. Yes the E-PL7 is slightly larger but we get what the GM5 missed out on. The extra weight of the E-PL7 is its mostly metal construction. We get an excellent tilt screen and a great swivel EVF with the add-on 2.4 million dot VF4, and it has IBIS. Whilst the single wheel around the shutter button gives you the primary parameter, a prod of a button brings up the other two. The GM and GF got assimilated into the GX line-up.
I'm still very happy with my GM5, but the EVF and screen are getting really long in the tooth. I also really wish the mechanical shutter could work with manual lenses. With the 15mm and 42.5 1.7s it's a fantastic set! I also really like the 7a 26 6.3.
Speaking of compact, the GX line needs to live on. If Sony can do a compact a6700, where is Lumix with a powerful GX9 successor? I'm sure so many would love to see this come true.
This has been my biggest request on forums and comment sections of articles featuring Lumix cameras. I would love to have a GM5II with the new G9II sensor. If they could fit even 2 axis IBIS, I'd probably preorder. I didn't grab a GM5 during the fire sales and used examples in the USA are basically new MSRP. I ended up buying an LX10 and a GX85 instead. I also have a GF3, GX1, G9, and G95. I'm hoping to go to Tokyo soon and I'll be on the lookout for a GM5. Unfortunately I think most of the Asian market GM5s go right to ebay since they can get more selling to Americans online.
Agree, it’s a beauty and a great b-cam. Size is everything in MFT world. I’m not sure what the development team is basing their recommendations for development on, but if they haven’t talked to you or any of the influencers in the community, they aren’t doing their job as good as they could. If we want this camera updated, we need to convince some of the developers. It’s that simple.
GM5 with g9 II sensor/capability + improved ergonomics + flippy screen would be such an amazing (perfect?) camera!
That would steal 30% of Fuji's sales!
But without IBIS (there's no room for it)
@@GungKrisna12 if they managed to pack an uncompromising IBIS system into the S9, I don't think a GM1/GM5 with IBIS would be impossible.
also waiting for something like this... GX9 mark II - my sweet dream)) ❤
Yup. If they manage to do that and have the camera weight under 400g w/o lens (it's possible, the E-M10 exists with those ergonomics TBH)
The Micro Four Thirds manufacturers have left their historic buyers behind. They have focused on equipment specialized in professional video, often much larger than a full frame. And they have neglected those of us looking for a compact, portable, yet robust system. If manufacturers want to keep the Micro Four Thirds system alive, they need to go back to producing more compact mid-range and high-end equipment. In this regard, I fondly remember David Thorpe's channel, which always showcased the essence of what Micro Four Thirds used to be.
Totally agree. I ended up getting a GX7MKII and its great. David Thorpe was an amazing presenter, miss him.
RIP David Thorpe 😢
Even more baffling: Panasonic themselves finally releasing a small camera . . . and it's full frame. The S9 just feels like salt in the wound.
Well said. Quality, lightweight and compact is the essence of micro four thirds - not the latest house brick size bodies they are producing now.
EP7 was released in 2021 and is still very relevant in terms of performance... give it time?
I sincerely hope Lumix watches this video and makes an updated GM5. I would be first in line to get one. It's the perfect size for an everyday camera.
I never understood the appeal of lining up just to buy vain things like iPhones. Now, a GM5 Mark 2...
Agreed, Lumix, just make this again
I'm waiting for the GX9-2 with phase autofocus. But a small camera like this GM5 is also very interesting.
You (we) may be waiting forever for a small body update. I’m afraid that train has left the station. Better think about sourcing a small camera before the prices, which have been going higher, continues to increase.
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We are all waiting for GX9-II, and i expect disappointment as corporations aren't driven by brains.
Yes yes yes yes!! For gods sake. The GM5 with 20mm 15mm 45mm lenses was SUCH a monster of a camera in a literally palm sized package. I want it back!!!!!!
Panasonic should make a GX10 with weather sealing like the GX8, but the GX9 form factor and tilt screen with a modification that allows the screen to tilt all the way under like the PEN E-P7. The GM5 is small, but has its limitation with fixed screen. The GX9 is much slimmer than the GX8 so if they could make a new GX10 that is the same size as the GX9 but include the weather sealing, it would be a winner!
Totally agree. At a sensible-ish price.
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Yes but also some video features inc i microphone in jack like gx8
The GM5 is unique. I think making a modern GM5 successor is more important than a GX9. A GM5 class body just can't be touched by any competitor, the GX9 can.
I got a GX7 for around 70 bucks and I think it's fantastic. No one ever talks about the 7?!
Thank you for all of the hard work that's gone into this channel!
Thank you very much I appreciate it! 🙏
Love my lumix GX80, small , tilt screen, view finder, ibis and small, its my every day carry as it fits in my pocket
Yes, the GX80 is a superior GM5.
In addition to my GM5s I also got the GX80, fully realising that it is almost twise the size.
@@hedydd2 And heavier. Much heavier.
@@log791 But not actually heavy at all, being imperceptibly heavier than my iPhone 15 Pro Max. At least with the 45mm f1.8 lens currently fitted with both implements sat six inches to my right just now.
@@hedydd2 Well, ~290g vs ~420g. The rest is all opinion.
So my opinion: I prefer the much lighter weight to the features like IBIS. The only thing I'd miss from a GM5 is the swivel screen. I have the GX85, and I don't like its weight and grip. I even prefer my GF1's grip to it.
I love how you always look like you enjoy taking photos and having a camera in hands! I found it inspiring :)
Comgratulations on your new little gem, the GM5!
Almost perfect. Would prefer the LX100 body, because I just prefer what the dials do, but really just any tiny m43 would be great at this point!
Yep, LX100 dials are a thing to behold! 👌🏻✨
Yet, Leica just made D-Lux 8
@@GungKrisna12 Basically a LX100ii with better EVF, updated Leica software, and designed like a Q3. The D-Lux8 still doesn’t have PDAF.
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Today finally received my GM5! It came with 12-32mm lens, and with external flash. All black. And with original packaging. Very good deal - even lower than the prices you named in the video. And with just over 4k shutter count!
Also have two GM1 bodies with similar low shutter count, acquired from same source (not Japan) for prices significantly lower the ones on MPB.
Your videos are very inspiring! Keep them coming!
What’s your source for purchasing?
I've had my GM5 since it was launched and is still being used to this day. I'm glad there are poeple out there who still enjoys this little beast of a camera. They should definitely make an updated version at this size.
I bought my GM-5 a year ago (like new, only 250 shutter release count). This is my no 1 camera now (I have many more G9, E-P7, GM-1, GR III, LX100II but they are too big for me). I have been using m43 from its day one with Lumix G1 and still today I love m43 for what it was and for what it is. During my journey I lost joy of photography for sometime with all these big cameras I owned, but GM-1 and now GM-5 brings smile on my face every time I use these tiny gems. If Panasonic release GM-5 successor I am the first in line to buy it :)
I bought one of these used from Europe about 5yrs ago, and lost it in the first month during an emergency move to a different home. Today I found the camera, 2 lenses, and the original box. After thanking God multiple times, I nearly cried, and I'm a grown ass man.
absolutely understandable reaction, would've reacted the same way
@@ali-bert Thanks!
Totally agree with you Emily! We need an updated version. I do not have one but I would buy a new version for sure with all the latest bells and whistles. I do like my LX100.2 and GX850 which are similar in size I think. Thank you for the video, great work as always! Take care!
I have a GM5 for 1 year now (353 Euros). Your video on the GM1 gave me the idea to get one. I have it with me at the office every day. A lot of buttons for such a small camera. The only thing I am missing is a tilting LCD for low angle shots.
The body is like that of the LX100ii which is one of my favourite MFT's along with the GX9. Great video!
I agree with you guys. Micro four thirds format should be continued. Not all fans fancy to drag a along a bag full of photographic equipment but we do want that magical picture quality that these gems have to offer.
I have one of these lovelies too (and I have the Gm1). Got the last new GM5 in Canada, for a good price about 7 years ago, maybe longer. Used it so much I basically wore out the thumb dial. Did you know that it originally came with a tiny mountable flash? But to be honest, I feel the G100 is a much better camera, though it is a bit larger, but that actually makes it easier to use. And I have 2 of those! I agree with you about begging LUMIX to please make more small cameras! Thanks for another great video.
Hi Marlene! I hope you're having a great day 🙂
Hi Marlen. I am thinking about getting a G100 one day. Now that the G100D is out I am waiting for one being available in my country (I can't believe there is not even a single store selling it in France - only available online and again not even French online stores - this is silly).
@@I4getTings It’s always a great day when Emily puts out a new video!
@@ImageMaven Back at you Marlene! Looking forward to your how to videos reappearing. Could YOU talk to LUMIX and advocate for us? It looks like lumix is abandoning photographers in order to focus on larger video bodies. Look at the S9 abomination.
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@@martingreenberg870 Hey Marty. Great to hear from you again. Not sure how much pull I have with LUMIX but I’ll definitely let them know that a lot of folks are looking for small photo centric cameras. It’s a tough market to crack these days because most people just use their phones for every-day-carry and vacation photos.
I got an excellent condition GM5 from MPB last year for just £280-with the mountable flash! I didn't realise how lucky I was. It was my first camera, and I have loved using it. With the Lumix/Leica 15mm f1.8 or the Lumix 12-32 kit lens, it is truly a wonder. My friends with 'real cameras' can't quite believe what I get out of it!
You should get the tiny Olympus FL-LM3 flash as well. You can adapt it to the GM5 hotshoe
I wonder how many ‘this is my favourite/first camera’s’ you’ve had, Emily!!!! And no doubt more to come!!! Loved this review! Yes, would be nice to see a modern version of this particular camera.
My goodness! I had both the GX800 and the GM1 and sold them both to buy the GX80. Both are great cameras but the GX80 is perfection IMO as it has everything I want from a compact MFT camera and takes excellent photos and videos. I wish I kept the GX800 though, as these cameras have become so expensive to buy now.
Thank you so much for the review! I managed to find one for £420 with 12-32mm lens included! Very happy. What would be the most usable lens for travel - lots of landscapes (with my mobile I find I don't like 1x framed pictures, and prefer 2x for landscapes), some zoom, some portraits.
I bought one new in 2015. At first my fumble prone fingers hitting closely spaced buttons on the back and inadvertently changing settings drove me crazy. But then I adapted and learned. Now I love it. I bought it for its small size and EVF. I like to travel light, I do a great deal of motorcycle touring and want a camera that does not take up a lot of space and allow me more than a smartphone. I’d trade the small EVF for a flip screen. I rarely use the video on this camera, I’d like to see similar sized highly capable camera without the video features, a bigger EVF and flip screen, I’d buy it in a minute.
I have a red one. A little rubber finger grip on the front from Amazon made it much more pleasant to hold. I live in southern California and the back screen frequently is unusable because it is just too dim in bright light. EVF saves the day. You can find an extended rubber eyepiece for the EVF that prevents the washout from sunlight coming in from the side. I do love it though. It stopped working once and found that my local camera shop was able to get it repaired. I do wish that Fujifilm would study it and the Sony RX100 to truly learn how to miniaturize. Love your videos.
I have two of them.The GM5 ist the best Lumix ever.I use this cam more than my GX9 and 8.With nice Leica lens you will have best quality pictures.
The dials and the buttons have very better feeling as the gx9 buttons.
I wish me a new GM or GX in high quality housing.
Nice review.
Best regards from germany.
Just put the G9II tech in the GX8.
I love my GM5 btw.
I really love my Olympus PENs, a PL2, PL6, and PL8, because they are small and just do it all, and the built-in waggy sensor works better than a dog's tail for correction shake!
More importantly, regarding your painted beater cam, when travelling, there are places, where a cruddy looking camera with gritty graffiti spray-paint is actually a good thing, because it's like WHO WANTS IT???
If you can disguise a Ferrari as a golden-beige BMC Princess or a totally rusted out Fiat Uno of unidentifiable colour, that is a good thing
Try going there with a high end Leica instead, and see what happens to your neck strap and accessory bags
I bought a used GX80 for street photography and a handy pocket camera. A bit bigger than the GM5 but comes with a tilting screen, great for discrete street photography. I use it with a 25mm 7artisan f/1.8. I'm very happy with it as a 2nd body.
Very nice kit.
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@@martingreenberg870I think therein lies part of the problem: people who really want a small, pocketable camera that they can use their collection of m43 lenses on will mostly be happy with a second hand GM5, or a GM1 or GX1/7/9/80, and turn tracking them down into a branch of their hobby. They may buy a GM5ii if it is made, but might decide not to if the screen is or isn't fully articulated, or is or isn't fold-out. Equally, they may buy a second hand GX80/850/GX9/ GX7. Meanwhile a sizeable chunk of folks using a GH5 upgraded when the GH6 arrived, and again with the GH7.
Nice find! Love the GM5! I must get one again sometime. I'd love for them to pop in a modern sensor BUT fear there's some serious heat management to take care of. The new sensor would probably need a new processor, which would probably also need a new battery, and the three of them will also probably generate more heat - and there's nowhere for it to go in a camera this size. Hence the S5, which is probably about as small as they can now go with a modern processor and battery. That's my fear. I hope I'm wrong.
You're probably absolutely right! I'd take fresh stock of this version at this point 😂
@@MicroFourNerds exactly, I would too. Same for many of the old RX100 cameras. A shame they're all out of stock new.
Let’s face it Gordon, when it comes to cameras you are seldom wrong.
Like everyone who has dropped a comment here, I like small lightweight cameras. Great point about heat dissipation! Maybe the small body invission needs to be placed in a S9 body. So be it. I’m hoping the clever LUMIX engineers can figure something out. I look at the Ricoh GRiii for inspiration. How did they jam an APSC body into that tiny body? If Ricoh can do that, what can the lumix engineers do for us?
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Love your video on this. The real spirit of Micro Four Thirds.
Just managed to pick up a minty fresh, red GM5!
Unreal how small they actually are! Only about 270g with the 14mm 2.5!
I love mine, I imported the red one about 2 years ago from GB for a way to high price. But the red version is even harder to come by. The only good thing it had a shutter count of 650 and the MFT to Leica adapter within the package.
I think im gonna cry if that one ever dies. But it was hard to get one when I bought it, and unfortunately it did not get any easier.
Make micro four thirds small again! They're so cute!
My third camera and my first M4/3 ! i absolutely love it, got it for 400€ with 3 lenses, Mzuiko 45mm // lumix 45-200 and 12-32 kit lenses, and it's was a really great deal i think. i've waited and checked marketplace everyday and i got lucky after a few month. A piece of advice, get a second battery as soon as you can. The camera is 10 years old, so are the battery that come with it, so grab a new one when they are still sold.
Even brand new a 2nd or 3rd battery is an excellent idea! New cameras don’t even come it’s chargers anymore. These small bodies have small batteries. The good news is 2nd party battery manufacturers provide chargers and batteries at a reasonable price. Since the extra batteries as so small they are easy to take with us when we go out to use our small cameras.
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@@martingreenberg870 i agree, and the tiny battery go pretty fast on this camera. I got a Duracell battery for about 20€
cool, after getting a GM-1, I started looking for a GM-5, just got one too after looking for a year, so far its been awesome to use where I have to have a viewfinder!
Same sentiment. I held on my m43 equipment because of its overall size. Instead of playing on its strengths Oly and Pana keeps on making bigger and bulkier cameras
Preach!!!!!! I literally want this camera in silver badly! If Lumix built two new cameras off of this the GM5 &/or the LX15 they could literally dominate the travel/edc camera market instead of trying to market to phone users!
I subbed in the first 15 seconds because your channel name made me smile.
I got lucky when I bought my GM5 on eBay in 2019 at a price that is half of what I see currently listed on eBay. It was in mint condition with the original packaging. It came (to Canada) all the way from Romania. I absolutely love the little gem.
Any viewers know if the Japaense to English workaround works on a GX85?
Recently subscribed here. Thanks for all your tiny camera series videos Emily! I have an S5 but have been finding it to be too chunky to want to take around when doing fun stuff with family. I've been leaving it at home for personal stuff and just using my iPhone. However, I think I've landed on trying to get a GX85 as my "dad cam", and I found a well priced one but the description says it is in Japanese.
Hi as you like little camera, s just wanted to tell you about my first panasonic lumix camera it wasn't a 4/3 but l realy had lots of realy good fotos and short vids with it , yes it was a Lumix TZ 22 and it was a fantastic blue , also metal would probably fit into your small camera collection, you had a lot of things to play with on it , l still have it somewhere in its box , Barrie
I have one of these and have gotten some beautiful photos with the kit 12-32mm lens. I wish they'd update it with a brighter EVF and tilting screen. They would sell like crazy.
I miss my GM5 that was burgled a few years ago :( I am pleased with the GX800 I now use as my little camera, but a new GM5-alike would be wonderful
I remember walking into my local camera shop and the manager showing me the GM series camera. We both marvelled at how cute it was but I dismissed it at the time as being something I wanted to buy. Oh how I wish I had picked up a copy!
A GM5 mk ll, w G9 LL sensor and weather sealing (w weather sealed kit lens), latest software obviously would be fantastic for hiking/climbing/cycling/outdoor enthusiasts that don't want to carry a bunch of bulky camera gear, as well as obviously travel/candid photography
I love my GM5. I have bought and sold several Lumix and Olympus bodies since getting the GM5. They might have had more features and slightly better image quality, but none of them made me want to take more pictures the way the GM5 does. The GM5, Fuji X10, and Ricoh GR are the gems of the small camera world.
I love my GX85 despite not using it lately!
I’m looking for a 2nd GX85 as a backup.
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I have the GX80 and it's an incredible piece of kit.
I love GM1&5 too : ) As a Lumix user I'm so frustrated that the MFT compact is being left behind by Panasonic. Isn’t DJI OSMO Pocket 3 enough to prove that compact products with 1" sensor can also sell very well? They still think Lumix compact can't!? XD
Hi, I always enjoy researching different cameras and lens. I have learnt lots from your videos!
congrats on this camera, i still looking for my gm5!
Sooo happy I bought mine when it was still affordable! A truly pocketable camera… I just think you should use the 14 2.5 with it… soooo tiny!
I love my GX85 and while it's a smidge larger than the GM5 it's still as small as my hands could comfortably handle, has a great flippy screen, EVF, decent 4K video and IBIS.
I have both, the GM5 as well as the GX8. GM5 is the best for travelling and as soon the weight and size is impotant. The EVF works better than I thought first. Even the cam is 10 years old, the noise is not dramatically higher than the GX8. I have used it during some business trips also for TWAN (the world at night) as well as for Astrophotos (using a simple Genie mini as a tracker).
The 12-32mm and the low end 35-100mm are a good choice zoom lenses - but also the 42.5 F1.7 prime fits very well to the camera.
I love it and have it often along with me as an additional backup or as second cam. Thanks for the video. Ralph
Beware of the failing back dial and failing power switch. Very common failures. My dial died long ago. And every time I use it I think it will be the day the power switch breaks. I still love it for the size and eVF. I am with you though. I'd pay a bunch for an updated one.
Thanks for the heads up
This almost the perfect tiny camera. And congrats on your purchase. Thanks for sharing.
Certainly a great find. People are going to talk about 4 things it doesn't do: 1) flip-out screen; 2) IBIS; 3) meagre 1/50 sync; 4) 4k video. I'm sure Panasonic would say: "get the G100D", which is a good compromise, but it doesn't really solve many problems either. What about "get the S9", but then you don't get any small lenses or a shutter/possibility for flash. Those compromises are nothing when considering the size and it still is the smallest DSLM with a hotshoe and EVF.
Great video of a very cool camera. If the chatter on TH-cam is a true indication (and who knows if it is) the photography world is ready for a new generation of compact, range-finder-style interchangeable lens cameras, and MFT is in the perfect position to be the best platform for them. Hopefully, Lumix and OMS are listening.
+1 w/weather sealing. IBIS would be a dream.
Thanks, love your videos! Around 800 euros for this now on Ebay, no way it's mad! Very happy I just bought an GX80 with the kit lens for just 275 euros!!
I got the same in red with a 20mm 1.7 and a 12-32 for versatility. Good quality but the screen and the visor are really bad but very helpfull outside. A strap like wiimote is very cool on it because you dont have any grip.
A real beast
Thank you for mentioning the possibility of changing Japanese only menus to English! It is so frustrating to find a prime example of a Lumix camera on eBay, only to find the menu is Japanese only. I've never understood why a manufacturer would lock a camera down to one language, especially when the other languages are already there, but hidden.
GM5 with flippy screen, IBIS, audio jack, and PDAF would be really cool. Thanks for the video 😊
Emily and you are influencers. PLEASE advocate to LUMIX on our behalf for this. I would purchase a GM5 or GX8/80(85)/9 body with these features. Based on the comments on videos like this there is a market for this body. Maybe larger than the S9 market.
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I love my GM5. Mine is red. It's my primary camera. The only thing I don't like is the focus and exposure lock. I don't miss the lack of IBIS as much as I thought I would.
This camera with the G9-II sensor and some limitations like up to 4k30 only, no mechanical shutter, PDAF without the object detection and all the stuf that needs a lot of power. This would be great. With IBIS would be even better but I don't know if this is possible in this size.
The GM5 and GM1 had mech shutters. It was simply a questionable mistake not having it on the S9. But yeah IBIS would be pretty tough without adding significant thickness. Thankfully fast tiny f/1.7 lenses can eliminate shake for the most part.
Don’t argue for limitations. The clever engineers in Japan can sort out your requests.
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Thank you so much for making this!! Bought myself a red and black gm5 about the same time you bought yours and love it too. Although I would say my gm1 has sharper photos than gm5 even though same sensor.
Die GM5 ist eine wunderbare Kamera. Zu jedem Preis? Ich hatte eine GM5 bekommen, leider mit Kratzer auf dem Sensor und habe sie wieder zurück gegeben. Jetzt habe ich eine GX800 gekauft, auch schick und klein. Was die GM5 zur GX800 nicht hat ist Peaking in rot und L Monochrom. 🥰 Ein bewegliches Display ist auch nett. Ich habe den Hype GM5 los gelassen und genieße die Freude an der GX800. 😀
💯. Now that the AF, Lens tech are more or less matured, it's time to come back to this type of camera which was the original ethos. I will buy one in a heartbeat.
The GM5 was my dream tiny Micro Four Thirds camera, but it's extremely hard to find used. The ones I could find are asking as much as when the camera was new! ($800+). I also looked for the GM1, but it's too pricey used too, so I ended up getting the GX850. Good compromise between tiny and cheap, with good quality (no AA filter).
If Panasonic could revive the GM series with just the 20MP sensor, never mind the new 25MP sensor, it would be a dream!
GX9ii would be phenomenal, or an LX100iii/LX200. With PDAF? I’m not sure why Panasonic hasn’t done it because it would be proper competition to the X100 or GRIII
Absolutely, Panasonic, please update this with maybe the following icings on the cake: the new PDAF, 4K, weather sealed, IBIS, a microphone port and maybe maybe a flippy screen (if it doesn't make it too heavy)... that would be my dream EDC camera! :)
I concur with your icing on the cake except I prefer a tilting screen. That screen is more in line with a small body. Here’s hoping.
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@@martingreenberg870 Sure... maybe one that could flip up 180 would be nice, but mainly, keep it small and light... MFT does have a future!
@@TheCruisinCrew Then they could skip the IBIS as well. It makes the camera heavier.
@@log791 I could also live without IBIS, but for some people it's indispensable... maybe one option would be to include gyro data to get excellent post production stabilization!
I have and use both cameras, GM1 and GM5. In my experience both have the same quality regarding materials and build. Besides the obvious differences with EVF, hot shoe, and scroll wheel another advantage of the GM5 is the possibility to quickly toggle the screen's touch function on and off. The lack of this is in my view the biggest nuisance of the GM1.
And I fully agree: this is how MFT cameras should look like.
Yes, yes, yes, we want updated small MFT cameras! The GX80 has become the digital camera I carry when I'm shooting film to grab some video and to continue shooting after I finish my roll. I'm really enjoying it. If it had Real Time LUT, v-log, PDAF and an EVF that doesn't give me rainbow vision I'd be even happier, but it's like 90% there for the perfect camera, especially for street photography.
Wow that's a really nice sample of the GM5 you got there, it looks really brand new, congrats! 🎉🎉
Regarding the controls, I don't find the combined wheel and D-pad on the GM1 and others problematic myself, but it's a matter of taste I guess. The reason I in fact prefer it is because it's a more robust construction that is less prone to failing on older cameras.
The back wheel found on the GM5, shared with others including GX9 is quite prone to failing unfortunately. It starts with the controls being erratic, and eventually failing altogether. In fact it's such a common fault that you can find lots of posts about it on forums and I even found a guide how to replace it, which I had to do on my GM5, which is now working fine again. Spare part replacement wheel assembly was found in Aliexpress at the time, because there is a market for this part.
Panasonic isn't alone with issues with this kind of Wheel design, even some seriously tough Nikon DSLR:s have the same issue with them.
Anyways, I really hope there will be an updated GM5 like release from Panasonic, that would be really awesome! 🥳🎈🎈
So happy to see this video, and extremely happy to see how much you liked it! I really hope someone from Lumix watches this video and reads the comments and realises that there are enough diehard fans to justify a new GM!
I've always been hearing people singing praises for the GM5 and after briefly owning a GX9 and hating the EVF since I'd started with a GX8, I've always wondered why. But now I get it.
Just in case you're considering getting one, the GX7 though 9's evf is a significant step up over the GM5's
@@GrahamAtDesk heh I wasn't but I suspect there was an issue with my GX9's EVF. It was blurry so there was no way for me to see the entire image in one clear shot. It was like the Diopter adjustment didn''t go far enough. The thing is I'd used a GX85 before and don't remember having an issue with that. Eventually I sold the GX9 because of that and the AF missed too many easy shots, compared to my other cameras. LOVED the form factor tho
Well done for finding it ... and drawing our attention to a perfect camera..... the GM1 is silly small because the lenses make the combo bulky
Looks very like a GX80 to me. The Gx80 even has a flippy screen, pop up flash as well as hotshoe and video button in a better place. Plus in-body stabilisation and the newer soft shutter that eliminates shutter shock which was an issue with earlier Lumix cameras.
Size and weight are the biggest differences, aside from the different features. Side by side or held in the hand, they are quite different.
My GM5 is my favorite tiny camera, a very well designed camera. Glad you talked about it, as we don't find a lot of content about it on TH-cam. I paid mine 250 euros (with the tiny flash and the 12-32mm lens) 2 years ago here in France (on a a local used market plateform between people), a real bargain !
Bargain!!
@@MicroFourNerds Well done!
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Yes yes yes please make gm5 great again and again and again ❤❤❤❤❤
Crazy, I was just thinking about getting a GM5 and a 14-140mm as a travel/all-in-one. Went with a Nikon 1 mount J5 instead, mainly because of cost. Might still do the GM5 one day - the GM5 and 14-140mm actually weighs less than the Nikon J5 and 10-100mm (27-270mm equivalent) despite being larger.
Really want LUMIX to update the GX85/80. Add IBIS and update the AF to the new system that actually works. 16 MP sensor with a fast readout and keep the AA filter far away from me! Do not need to add megapixels! Tilt screen, not a flip out screen.
The old one is still a great camera for travel, amazing photo quality in a tiny (but heavy, which I actually like) package.Also great as an EDC camera with a small prime/zoom combo!
man i just want a G9 II sensor and af capabilities in a GX8 body.. is it too hard to ask, panasonic?
Yes. Yes it is too much to ask for. Reconcile yourself that lumix is out of the small and lightweight camera body business. So sad.
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Totally agree with you (and I have been shooting with this for a few years). Just be careful with the on/off button and treat it very gently, as that's the only weak spot in its design (better to let it go to sleep than turning it off and on all the time). What a shame the S9 is not built to the same specs WITH a viewfinder, even a small one!:)!
I think make two versions. One with all the bells and whistles and m43 mount just like the gm1/gm5. Then make one with a fixed lens to give competition to the Ricoh GR in a crazy small package that fits every pocket
Agree! Also just want to leave a comment, that Panasonic needs to focus on cameras like this! I sold my GM5, because it wasn't that great in the low light. But oh man, when paired with 14 2.5 or 15 1.7 on the wide and 45 1.8 or 42.5 1.7 on the tele it was great. Also kit lens 12-32 together with the small 35-100 made great combo! I wish there would be mark 2. If they could do this 10 years ago, imagine what they could do now!
I replaced my too small GM1 with the E-PL7. GM5 and E-PL7 were released at the same time. Yes the E-PL7 is slightly larger but we get what the GM5 missed out on. The extra weight of the E-PL7 is its mostly metal construction. We get an excellent tilt screen and a great swivel EVF with the add-on 2.4 million dot VF4, and it has IBIS. Whilst the single wheel around the shutter button gives you the primary parameter, a prod of a button brings up the other two. The GM and GF got assimilated into the GX line-up.
I had a GM1, but replaced it with the excellent GX80. That camera has everything I need from the M43 format.
@@evertonporter7887 I replace my too small GM1 with the E-PL7. Also small.
I'm still very happy with my GM5, but the EVF and screen are getting really long in the tooth.
I also really wish the mechanical shutter could work with manual lenses.
With the 15mm and 42.5 1.7s it's a fantastic set!
I also really like the 7a 26 6.3.
Speaking of compact, the GX line needs to live on. If Sony can do a compact a6700, where is Lumix with a powerful GX9 successor? I'm sure so many would love to see this come true.
I do love this camera as well. I have the black one too. Thanks for this. Let’s go Panasonic! 20-24 mp and ibis
Ibis will increase the size -- probably irrelevant as they don't seem to want to listen to us anyways :-/
Have you ever reviewed the EP7 though?
This has been my biggest request on forums and comment sections of articles featuring Lumix cameras. I would love to have a GM5II with the new G9II sensor. If they could fit even 2 axis IBIS, I'd probably preorder. I didn't grab a GM5 during the fire sales and used examples in the USA are basically new MSRP. I ended up buying an LX10 and a GX85 instead. I also have a GF3, GX1, G9, and G95. I'm hoping to go to Tokyo soon and I'll be on the lookout for a GM5. Unfortunately I think most of the Asian market GM5s go right to ebay since they can get more selling to Americans online.
They should! Camera tech peaked years ago so just reissue the best you have produced.
Agree, it’s a beauty and a great b-cam. Size is everything in MFT world. I’m not sure what the development team is basing their recommendations for development on, but if they haven’t talked to you or any of the influencers in the community, they aren’t doing their job as good as they could. If we want this camera updated, we need to convince some of the developers. It’s that simple.
I passed on one for ~£150 about 6 months ago. I had a tight budget that month and i just recentlt bought my GM1 so i passed.
I almost regret it. 😅
I think I’m gonna look into a GM5 for travel. My everyday is a GX8 as well….thats my BABY.
GM5 is my all time favorite camera. Small but practical.
Great review thanks, I love my GM5, form and features there is nothing that matches it for the size. I agree an updated one is overdue.
A weather resistant LX 100 III, with a manual zoom, and the modern PDAF would be an amazing travel camera.