some input i gathered in my guild and through testing myself: fire madeleine can deal some good dmg. vio, despair, vampire, all viable. s2 works with revenge AND teamups! s1 with her passive and her s2 up is a 7.4 multi aoe attack that decreases atb by 30% with a 50% chance! (most s3 single target abilities have 7.8-8) wind madeleine seems like a decent generic booster/buffer. needs more testing. the 15% is a bit on the low side and i had to use a secondary booster to enable her. fire espresso is absolutely great. her s2 hits decently hard and has utility on a low cd. her s3 is now the first accessible method of applying aoe brand. the secondary debuffs atb break, def break and spd break can be used on the same target if less targets are available or fit the condition making it great for r5 and other boss fights (4 debuffs in one skill!). can also be build as a dd if you are somehow crazy enough...multis are pretty decent! water vanilla seems like a great buffer. the s1 heal is actually not too bad and the oblivion is just sooooo good. super good for spd scaling damage comps in siege/gw. fat atk leader too! with some s1 recovery artifacts her heal can easily become 4-6k per attack. works on revenge and teamups. fire vanilla shield and heal based on HER hp is actually great. good sustain. the passive works great with all the usual suspects: oracles, verd,... fun fact: purian (water inferno) can boost atb of whole team by 2/3 on a 3 turn cd! lets hope for an inferno 2a soon :) fun fact 2: ariel plus fire vanilla heals the whole team by 65% plus full cleanse plus 26% atb boost and the healing over time is also boosted. fun fact 3: very funny when paired with succu s1 ;-) dark vanilla s3 DOESNT HIT, making her absolutely bonkers strong. she can not be revenged, -triggers no passives- and doesnt have to deal with elemental disadvantage. absolutely SSS unit. if she would be faster she would be the best unit in the game. probably still top 5. (she too has the 2 turn oblivion on a 3 turn cd!) water holly massively overrated if not used with a full rng team to just bully the enemy out
I got all the 4* normal elements and the fire espresso is indeed good. I think it's the best out of the whole group. S2 can hit pretty hard too on full atk bar and I think it has a partial ignore defense effect. S3 will drop all 4 debuffs on a target if it's the only one left as well.
@@OnceInLuv, it kind of is. It says it reduces their health by up to 30% according to attack bar level. That's similar wording to water lighting emp, Mo Long, Ramagos, ect. All those mons work off of straight HP reduction and will do the same damage on a target no matter their defense.
My gripe with the aoe effect for the madeleine cookies is that they lose the effect in-between waves so they are useless in subjugation and laby stages. Their s1 doesn't do a whole lot in rta amd their whole kit revolves around it.
I had a choice between Fire Vanilla or Wind Holly. I picked the wind holly and now I just hope it gets some kind of healing buff in the near future. Honestly, didnt care much for either.
@@resterreese3341 Yeah for sure, but defense units are already in a bad position with the power of additional artifacts, and their scaling damage never matches the scaling damage of say a Fire Bison for example with HP scaling damage. Her skill 3 is cracked don't get me wrong, just really lackluster everywhere else.
@@OnceInLuv trying to use her in some AOs but not having to use galleon but also needing an atk buff is kinda weird 😂best thing I tried was using her instead of galleon in the chiwu eshir Poseidon lineup. Speed buff is good enough usually if you got a slappin Poseidon
I'm actually trying to see if I can make a Tricaru team using the Madaline cookies (even though I already have the standard verd) because it seems like it has the *potential* to be fairly fast, given I assume the Ai for Commmanders honor is probably perfect, given its one of those *set up* skills that often have 100% priority. Assuming the Madaline cookie was the fastest on the team, with the tricaru team ups it *should* always have s2 available, and therefore always be aoe attacking and reducing atk bar.
@@OnceInLuv From my tests the damage is there, but its a lot more stat hungry than a standard verd because it needs damage speed and accuracy. I'm not 100% sure on the s1 scaling, but it 100% clears the trash waves considerably faster than verde even with mediocre runes from my tests. Only mid boss seems to prove a problem without skill ups because if towers get a chance to move the can defense break an icaru and screw up the team ups. I should mention this was with a 0 skill up water cookie, so with full skill ups in S1 I think the potential is there to potentially be quite usable if not outright better than standard verd, and potentially makes giants tricaru capable as water passive offsets damage and clears debuffs
@@Jiyuww It's less damage than Astar but more control. All in all, from my tests I'd honestly just suggest anyone to stick with their verds or astars, and the only real potential being a tricaru giants team is probably just better having a dots team for
The event is lag. I collected leg scroll from wave2 and it says i havent collected one yet lol. Once i got collab scroll it then counted the leg scroll as collected
Hey, got the dark hollyberry and noticed you wanted to try her out, you're welcome to contact me if you'd like, i'm on asia server g3 siege c3 rta (no oliver masha shizuka nana hurts)
Pulled the dark expresso and I can't see the use to be honest feels like the move either heals the enemy or does nothing. Maybe I'm too small brain to use but I don't see how to this is any use
If you missed it im doing my summons on my Birthday on September 11th
My birthday too!!! Happy birthday to us
Do you have a discord
@@gabrieochoa8906 its in the description!
Glad you're back. Never feel bad for taking time for yourself dude. Regular 9-5ers have PTO for that same reason. Love the content!
True PTO and Vacation would be nice LOL
some input i gathered in my guild and through testing myself:
fire madeleine can deal some good dmg. vio, despair, vampire, all viable. s2 works with revenge AND teamups! s1 with her passive and her s2 up is a 7.4 multi aoe attack that decreases atb by 30% with a 50% chance! (most s3 single target abilities have 7.8-8)
wind madeleine seems like a decent generic booster/buffer. needs more testing. the 15% is a bit on the low side and i had to use a secondary booster to enable her.
fire espresso is absolutely great. her s2 hits decently hard and has utility on a low cd. her s3 is now the first accessible method of applying aoe brand. the secondary debuffs atb break, def break and spd break can be used on the same target if less targets are available or fit the condition making it great for r5 and other boss fights (4 debuffs in one skill!). can also be build as a dd if you are somehow crazy enough...multis are pretty decent!
water vanilla seems like a great buffer. the s1 heal is actually not too bad and the oblivion is just sooooo good. super good for spd scaling damage comps in siege/gw. fat atk leader too! with some s1 recovery artifacts her heal can easily become 4-6k per attack. works on revenge and teamups.
fire vanilla shield and heal based on HER hp is actually great. good sustain. the passive works great with all the usual suspects: oracles, verd,... fun fact: purian (water inferno) can boost atb of whole team by 2/3 on a 3 turn cd! lets hope for an inferno 2a soon :) fun fact 2: ariel plus fire vanilla heals the whole team by 65% plus full cleanse plus 26% atb boost and the healing over time is also boosted. fun fact 3: very funny when paired with succu s1 ;-)
dark vanilla s3 DOESNT HIT, making her absolutely bonkers strong. she can not be revenged, -triggers no passives- and doesnt have to deal with elemental disadvantage. absolutely SSS unit. if she would be faster she would be the best unit in the game. probably still top 5. (she too has the 2 turn oblivion on a 3 turn cd!)
water holly massively overrated if not used with a full rng team to just bully the enemy out
Hey man, great videos! I appreciate that you go straight to the point. Thanks!
I got all the 4* normal elements and the fire espresso is indeed good. I think it's the best out of the whole group. S2 can hit pretty hard too on full atk bar and I think it has a partial ignore defense effect. S3 will drop all 4 debuffs on a target if it's the only one left as well.
Partial IED? I think they would write that down.
@@OnceInLuv, it kind of is. It says it reduces their health by up to 30% according to attack bar level. That's similar wording to water lighting emp, Mo Long, Ramagos, ect. All those mons work off of straight HP reduction and will do the same damage on a target no matter their defense.
Oh I see what you mean, I mistook the skill with someone else. That totally makes sense!
Thanks for the review!
Good to see you back. Thank you the content.
My gripe with the aoe effect for the madeleine cookies is that they lose the effect in-between waves so they are useless in subjugation and laby stages. Their s1 doesn't do a whole lot in rta amd their whole kit revolves around it.
Hmm, losing the effect between kinda sucks. Maybe Interserver/Siege?
@@OnceInLuv I have the light one so I will try to make it work on a def lol
Can't wait to watch the summons, I hope you get another LD5 for your bday. Thanks for all your S.W. help.
I had a choice between Fire Vanilla or Wind Holly. I picked the wind holly and now I just hope it gets some kind of healing buff in the near future. Honestly, didnt care much for either.
Hard choice between two unknown units :(
Hope all is going well Tyler💜
You're welcome to use my Dark Hollyberry, her damage is really underwhelming though sadly.
Imo, dark hollyberry is not really for the damage, but to deny dmg and disruption with her provoke.
@@resterreese3341 Yeah for sure, but defense units are already in a bad position with the power of additional artifacts, and their scaling damage never matches the scaling damage of say a Fire Bison for example with HP scaling damage. Her skill 3 is cracked don't get me wrong, just really lackluster everywhere else.
the fire pure vanilla will pair amazing with verde
I just pulled Light Hollyberry👍
if dark espresso evened out hps BEFORE doing aoe damage... that might make it nice.
do some insane damage on something to set him up. then use s3.
I pulled the light espresso and a variety of the other 4*. Most excited about the light espresso
Shes so cute :D Lmk how you like her
@@OnceInLuv trying to use her in some AOs but not having to use galleon but also needing an atk buff is kinda weird 😂best thing I tried was using her instead of galleon in the chiwu eshir Poseidon lineup. Speed buff is good enough usually if you got a slappin Poseidon
if you wanna try light PVC lemme know.
thanks
Welcome back
Happy to see you are shwoing your face again :)
I feel dark hollyberry will be a no touch unit for double lushen ads now
I'm actually trying to see if I can make a Tricaru team using the Madaline cookies (even though I already have the standard verd) because it seems like it has the *potential* to be fairly fast, given I assume the Ai for Commmanders honor is probably perfect, given its one of those *set up* skills that often have 100% priority. Assuming the Madaline cookie was the fastest on the team, with the tricaru team ups it *should* always have s2 available, and therefore always be aoe attacking and reducing atk bar.
Is it enough damage?
@@OnceInLuv From my tests the damage is there, but its a lot more stat hungry than a standard verd because it needs damage speed and accuracy. I'm not 100% sure on the s1 scaling, but it 100% clears the trash waves considerably faster than verde even with mediocre runes from my tests. Only mid boss seems to prove a problem without skill ups because if towers get a chance to move the can defense break an icaru and screw up the team ups. I should mention this was with a 0 skill up water cookie, so with full skill ups in S1 I think the potential is there to potentially be quite usable if not outright better than standard verd, and potentially makes giants tricaru capable as water passive offsets damage and clears debuffs
Like using Astar
@@Jiyuww It's less damage than Astar but more control. All in all, from my tests I'd honestly just suggest anyone to stick with their verds or astars, and the only real potential being a tricaru giants team is probably just better having a dots team for
Morning coffee and SW 😁
I did the collab dungeon yesterday and did it again today but it only gave me credit for doing it once in the event
The event is lag. I collected leg scroll from wave2 and it says i havent collected one yet lol. Once i got collab scroll it then counted the leg scroll as collected
Interesting, totally worked for me both days :O
Got the dark espresso, s2 is nice but hopefully they buff s3
Yeah id like to see more out of the S3s!
September 11th is my birthday as well
Hey, got the dark hollyberry and noticed you wanted to try her out, you're welcome to contact me if you'd like, i'm on asia server g3 siege c3 rta (no oliver masha shizuka nana hurts)
i used 700 scrolls and got none of the new 5* units.. I wanted to quit so bad then i look at my ragdoll and now i still can't quit
Pain, 20% chance if you hit a nat 5 to get collab. Its up from the usual 12% too :(
@@OnceInLuv I hope you get all the luck that com2us took from us XD.. Wish you all the best in sept 11!!
Pulled the dark expresso and I can't see the use to be honest feels like the move either heals the enemy or does nothing. Maybe I'm too small brain to use but I don't see how to this is any use
Hopefully I get them so I can try it out
Oh revenge does apply the aoe on the maddies
Now that is sick
Dark madeleine 🍪 good or no?
I think its cracked af
@@OnceInLuv all along I meant light.
I have Trinity Zerath and Dark Hollyberry bunch unfortunately no Shizuka
Woah spooky team! Could try with Chloe maybe
no way would have never guess your age!
What were you thinking :O
Are u gonna bto buy any packs?
I bought the 3 middle collab packs
4:12 that whistle on “cool” 😎
Wish well
Water fire and dark espresso seem usable in toahell
ToAHell, the one content I hate LOL
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