His control is just......wow. Always been a fan of him since he can play with a hyper car like a toy or go seriously quick with barely a thought. Plus his commentary is so informative......
That's laughable. You could do that with any American Muscle Mustang, Camaro, Aussy's Menaro (Now defucted Pontiac GTO) or Nissan 350/370Z manual RWD.. Toyota's 86GT(Scion FRS/Subaru BRZ) M3's, Honda S2000.....the list goes on...... to learn much better car control. RR/RWD there's a reason why there's not more car like it. It's because of the poor weight balance and only Pee Brand loyalist would think it's better....in their own mind.
***** yeah, but for the money you spend on a 911 turbo s you can get 2 GTR's and a BRZ.. Or you can get a gtr, modify it and kick every Porsche's ass, and still have a comfortable 4 seater everyday car :P
***** Now now, kids.... Come on obviously Michael Graff is just wanted to justify his love of VW Beetle that catches fires even in stock trim (991 GT3) LOL..... so I doubt a stock GTR would do that. Oh did I forget to mentioned that the Toyota TS040 Hybrid beating the Porsche 919 Hybrid in a 6hrs endurance race not one time but both Silverstone and Spa? And the reason of that is because the Porsche broke down? Hmmm.. LOL
GT-R's are fast and can be very reliable, I have driven one and holy hell, but all and all the car requires no talent and therefore is not a driver's car, I have a built Evo X and I can tell you with my somewhat talent paws can tear up most GT-R's. It's not about the car, its about the driver.
i understood that it was faster with the T/C off. check 5:52 on the video. but this was the 2008 version of the car. they changed much in the 2012 systems, so on reflection, with this car, you are probably right. thanks
They were trying to compare cars of the same price. The Turbo S is around $65,000 more than the Nissan GT-R. With that price difference you could get an AMS package added that would boost performance to near Bugatti figures.
You have to consider most racing drivers don't like traction control and feel like they can do better without it. Someone should test the GTR like that
Tiff Needle you are awesome man! Please let your next comparison be between the GTR Nismo and the 911 Turbo S. Can't wait to see those two monsters go head to head.
That makes Nissan all the more impressive, humble manufacturer quietly selling better value for money cars (which ultimately speak for themselves) Personally I love my Nissan 370Z and would love to own a Porsche Cayman R and 991 Carrera S manual.
Forgot to mention, the Nissan GT-R 2012 from: 0-60mph at an incredibly 2.8sec! And the GT-R weighs over 300kg more than the Porsche! Also it is cheaper, better fuel economy and even more environment-friendly. And, such a beautiful high advanced machine.
Tiff Needell is such an amazing driver, by far my favourite car reviewer. Bloody legend! Considering the amount of power, torque and lack of AWD on a damp track, that Porsche did really well to finish only 2secs from the GTR"s time. I would take the Porsche, in black please!
Thelastmag.....the nissan you can take ur kids to soccer practice in. The GT3 is a race car for the street for multi millionaires. There is nothing fair at all about that comparison.
Or at least with an awd Porsche C4S with PDK...and.. yes, it can carry kids in the back seats. The GTR is an AWD car also, so I agree the comparison is definitely not equal.
because of tiff's driving ability, with the traction off will bring him to the limit of the car and tyres. where for normal drivers, traction control will bring you closer to the limit than you would without it. in fact, a normal driver would crash before getting close to the limit of the car.
thats good, that way nissan makes a better car and vice versa this constant battle keeps us car nuts happy by giving us even more brilliant cars to gawk at
Astralwurksdk Three seconds is a lot of time to make up for. One can't simply assume that another version of the same car could make it up so easily. This isn't a drag race after all.
The GTR actually has good racing heritage as well, all the way back to the 70's with the first GTR in fact. Your point? In any case both are great cars.
i fucking love reading these arguments. GTR fanboy (no driver's license): "LOOK GTR beats this crappy beatle! How awesome is this?? Fuck porsche!" a turbo'd GTR vs a NA porche.... then comes a 911 turbo S, beats the GTR.. GTR fanboy (no driver's license): "BUT that is not fair! GTR is cheaper, that is why its better!" No shit its gonna be cheaper! its a fucking nissan! Seems to me its only fair for these kids when porsche is in disadvantage due to the inferior model.
***** what about Nissan's best vs Porsche's best? Can't even compare LOL nice try. NISMO is independent company that mods and upgrades cars so ur GTR NISMO is comparing to Switzer Porsche. Oh my... no comparison XD
***** LOL it'a not emotional its facts XD it's called science, physics maybe you heard of em' I can see you are the emotional one who's making that weird ass comment... "Pheeeeeeew right over your head (face)" even gived a fuck to make a sounding verb and a face XD. I think you are confused.
***** well... some car guys and race drivers loves lab times and how fast it can go. some car guys like how it's easy to tune and customize. but most of us want a reliable cars. Porsche does almost everything. It can be a track car, race car, Sunday car, shopping car, show off car, and mos importantly it's the most reliable sports/super car out there.
I don't know about anyone else, as much as I love the R35 GTR, the 911 in this video looked fun to drive... He was getting sideways with no issues. People buy sports cars to have fun with them. And if someone finds the GTR to be more fun than a 911, then so be it. Love both cars..
gone2secondzin123 U don't say! he sees Porsche as a beetle that means Porsche has to be shorter, taller and narrower and that means If he saw GTR it'll look like a cube with top tail chopped off lol. r u offended that I made a comparison with cube and gtr?
Gofgilla is awesome as always and has as breakfast some porches audis and especially ferraries !! But don't you get upset you guys from this comment cause it's very true !!
Love both cars but for me I prefer the new Kid in Town the Nissan GTR it has far more potential , it's easier to get it to its limits and safer at the same time
The takeaway from this video is that a twin turbo-charged Nissan is barely faster 'round the track than a non-turbo-charged Porsche with an old school manual gearbox which shifts slower [but is more fun]. Therefore I can't help but laugh at the Nissan fan-boys saying "Nissan bedst." Let's see your overweight overhyped oversized boxcar beat the 911 Turbo S PDK. ;)
Almost 3 seconds definitely isnt 'barely' faster on the track... it's a big difference. Had it been a longer track with more straights the Porsche would have been utterly slaughtered
Considering it's twin-turbo charged and the Porsche isn't... Yeah, I'd say that's barely faster. And you also can't leave out the fact that the Porsche is manual [slower old-school shifting gearbox] and the GT-R is paddle-shift. And had it been a longer track with more straights what would that have proven; that a twin-turbo car beats a non-turbo with the same number of cylinders? What would that be called "The DUH Challenge?" Let's see it "utterly slaughter" a 911 Turbo S PDK [ON ANY TRACK, EVEN DRAG].
Stephen R "supercar killer"? The only thing it has is off-the-line acceleration, and that's only if you're standing still, and you somehow manage to convince your opponent in a real car to wait for you to put it on launch-control. It doesn't have very much left in it at speeds over 100 MPH. It also oversteers too much, and it's just too big and heavy, and its brakes are unimpressive too. It's also ugly and boxy; looks like a sedan not a supercar which it wants to pretend to be. The GT-R is like the fat ugly girl on the catwalk -- no one wants to see that. If Nissan wanted to make a fast car they should have made it look like one -- not this thing.
Tiff raced Formula 1 and had numerous rides at Le Mans. And his racing resume is much better than the Stig's. The Stig now is on 5th Gear with Tiff, his last name is Collins. Shaddup about the Stig already...
mazdaman1980 Porsche may be more fun to you, but for me, Nissan GTR wins and this is MY opinion. I love Japanese cars and Nissan GTR is one of the best cars overall.
mazdaman1980 Because for me, Nissan GTR is a fantastic looking car, it is produced by Japanese people who are true artists. Also, GTR is awesome in anime/manga (I love anime/manga), NISMO company is fantastic, GTR looks better in drifting than 911 in my opinion. I choose Nissan GTR because it is my dream car, it looks awesome in Tokyo at night. I love the interior of this car and I love the tail lights. For me, 911 is overrated and GTR is not. Some people can say - hey it's Porsche and Nissan is just Nissan, but for me GTR is sweet, sexy and anime-looking car if you know what I mean.
Canniballistix Much closer. Tiff appeared to struggle to combine control and gear shifting in the 911. The PDK isn't there just for tech. It's there to make the car comfortable and easy to drive going *all out*.
2013 GTR has a better, stronger transmission, more HP (545), and better suspension then in previous model years so even when the new Porsche Turbo comes out it'll still lose on the track and road. Unfortunately too but even knowing this, I'd still buy the Porsche Turbo ;)
I was expecting the porsche to be more then 3 sec's slower, but... HATS off to tiff.. His driving is top notch. Love how he takes the apexi's. Good stuff mate.
I can understand that, for me it's the 911, quality and refinement, but the GTR looks stunning when I see them in car parks for example, especially in black. Enjoy!
Now that was a great battle! good to see Tiff in action. Great to see the nissan driven with the controls off and struggling against oversteer, don't get that from video presenters often if ever.
I love my gtr and adore the 911s' but hey man I also compete in open class circuit racing, so, I understand that in a 1:20 circuit it feels really really slow to drive 2.8 seconds slower. Of course the new Turbo S will do similar or better than the gtr, but this type of reviews are really just for entertainment.
Even though the GTR won, you could just tell how involved Tiff was when he was driving the 911. Both are incredible but I would take the drivers car even if it is slower :)
Tiff, you lovable maniac! I miss your old show 5th Gear here in the states. Our loss, for sure. I concur with JayRicci, your enthusiasm is off the hook! Major kudos and keep up the excellent reporting. No one captures a car's spirit as you do, no tells of as well.
I recall one day a fellow behind a food counter remarked how he'd dreamt of driving a car like my BMW convertible. It was then that I realized how fortunate some of us are to experience the thrill of driving amazing machines. In the end it's, not the car, but the locations and the experiences you achieve by driving them.
991 Turbo hasn't been released. Although, I think the 991 C4S has been. The 4 wheel drive would've been a closer contest, and so would've PDK over a stock 7 speed manual that he was using in the Porsche.
WHERE DID THIS COME FROM?! I subscribed to Evo some time ago, and this wasn't in my subscription box. I only found it just now after watching the new Boxster review.
i agree they would have to call it monster gt-r had the gt-r had it's own assembling plant also a v8tt with the aggressive tune of the v6tt would be nice
yes but the turbo is much heavier because it will most likely remain awd, so it could be more interesting than you think, also its a better comparison because the GT-R was benchmarked against the turbo and the 2013 model in this vid was updated specfically to go up against the 991 turbo
His control is just......wow. Always been a fan of him since he can play with a hyper car like a toy or go seriously quick with barely a thought. Plus his commentary is so informative......
A lot of pro drivers have problems drifting the R35, Tiff?... easy peasy...
Remember kids, if you can drive a manual rear wheel drive Porsche, then you can drive anything.
That's laughable. You could do that with any American Muscle Mustang, Camaro, Aussy's Menaro (Now defucted Pontiac GTO) or Nissan 350/370Z manual RWD.. Toyota's 86GT(Scion FRS/Subaru BRZ) M3's, Honda S2000.....the list goes on...... to learn much better car control. RR/RWD there's a reason why there's not more car like it. It's because of the poor weight balance and only Pee Brand loyalist would think it's better....in their own mind.
***** yeah, but for the money you spend on a 911 turbo s you can get 2 GTR's and a BRZ.. Or you can get a gtr, modify it and kick every Porsche's ass, and still have a comfortable 4 seater everyday car :P
***** Now now, kids.... Come on obviously Michael Graff is just wanted to justify his love of VW Beetle that catches fires even in stock trim (991 GT3) LOL..... so I doubt a stock GTR would do that. Oh did I forget to mentioned that the Toyota TS040 Hybrid beating the Porsche 919 Hybrid in a 6hrs endurance race not one time but both Silverstone and Spa? And the reason of that is because the Porsche broke down? Hmmm.. LOL
GT-R's are fast and can be very reliable, I have driven one and holy hell, but all and all the car requires no talent and therefore is not a driver's car, I have a built Evo X and I can tell you with my somewhat talent paws can tear up most GT-R's. It's not about the car, its about the driver.
alex baracskai Well said Alex
i understood that it was faster with the T/C off. check 5:52 on the video.
but this was the 2008 version of the car. they changed much in the 2012 systems, so on reflection, with this car, you are probably right. thanks
Dear Evo... More Tiff please! :)
They were trying to compare cars of the same price. The Turbo S is around $65,000 more than the Nissan GT-R. With that price difference you could get an AMS package added that would boost performance to near Bugatti figures.
Haha, 1:14, one-hand drifting, LCD screen indicating 95mph! That's why we love Tiff!! :)
Thats just as good a signing as Kun Augero was for City. Tiff Needell and Chris Harris...wow what a combo. Put Tiff in the F12 Berlinetta ASAP please.
You have to love Tiffs enthusiasm for driving after all these years. Brilliant.
You have to consider most racing drivers don't like traction control and feel like they can do better without it. Someone should test the GTR like that
Tiff Needle you are awesome man! Please let your next comparison be between the GTR Nismo and the 911 Turbo S. Can't wait to see those two monsters go head to head.
agreed
The nismo is more track focused the turbo s is a very capable grand tourer. Comparing it to the gt2 is better.
+groupCAP although i would bet on the 911 turbo s
That makes Nissan all the more impressive, humble manufacturer quietly selling better value for money cars (which ultimately speak for themselves) Personally I love my Nissan 370Z and would love to own a Porsche Cayman R and 991 Carrera S manual.
I don't care if the Nissan is faster, I'll have the Porsche!
oppenheimer yea same
It’s not faster......it’s the fact that the Carrera S is not 4wd.....They should use a Carrera 4S
And day
Forgot to mention, the Nissan GT-R 2012 from: 0-60mph at an incredibly 2.8sec!
And the GT-R weighs over 300kg more than the Porsche!
Also it is cheaper, better fuel economy and even more environment-friendly. And, such a beautiful high advanced machine.
Tiff Needell is such an amazing driver, by far my favourite car reviewer. Bloody legend! Considering the amount of power, torque and lack of AWD on a damp track, that Porsche did really well to finish only 2secs from the GTR"s time. I would take the Porsche, in black please!
Why would you leave the traction control off on the GTR? It's known for its amazing cornering abilities because of it's traction control.
Comparison makes NO sense... At least give the 911 a Pdk..!
Although the gt3 would actually be a fair fight.
Not on price it isn't lol!
HAHA you're right, the tested Nissan's MSRP is $112,000 the Carrera S MSRP is 98K, also puts the Porsche at a $14,000 disadvantage.
Thelastmag.....the nissan you can take ur kids to soccer practice in. The GT3 is a race car for the street for multi millionaires. There is nothing fair at all about that comparison.
Or at least with an awd Porsche C4S with PDK...and.. yes, it can carry kids in the back seats. The GTR is an AWD car also, so I agree the comparison is definitely not equal.
because of tiff's driving ability, with the traction off will bring him to the limit of the car and tyres. where for normal drivers, traction control will bring you closer to the limit than you would without it. in fact, a normal driver would crash before getting close to the limit of the car.
Tiff is soo underrated, extremely talented at what he does! Thank you Sir!
thats good, that way nissan makes a better car and vice versa this constant battle keeps us car nuts happy by giving us even more brilliant cars to gawk at
The nissan GTR drifting sounds like a Tie fighter from Star Wars passing by ^^
Nice to see the GTR in it's natural habitat and not at a drag strip.
Crazy that this isn't even the Turbo 911 and it was still only 3 seconds slower. A 911 Turbo or GT3 would spank that GTR
Just about any supercar it is always 2 or 3 seconds slower than gt-r lol
Astralwurksdk Three seconds is a lot of time to make up for. One can't simply assume that another version of the same car could make it up so easily. This isn't a drag race after all.
astralwa....yah they are also hugely more expensive!!! Nothing beats Godzilla in its price range. Nothing!!!
he looks like he has so much fun when he drives. braking traction in a gtr man tiff is a boss
Would this not have been a tad fairer with a Carerra 4 S?
No, GTR competes with 911 Turbo non S model
The GTR actually has good racing heritage as well, all the way back to the 70's with the first GTR in fact. Your point? In any case both are great cars.
i fucking love reading these arguments.
GTR fanboy (no driver's license): "LOOK GTR beats this crappy beatle! How awesome is this?? Fuck porsche!"
a turbo'd GTR vs a NA porche....
then comes a 911 turbo S, beats the GTR..
GTR fanboy (no driver's license): "BUT that is not fair! GTR is cheaper, that is why its better!"
No shit its gonna be cheaper! its a fucking nissan!
Seems to me its only fair for these kids when porsche is in disadvantage due to the inferior model.
***** what about Nissan's best vs Porsche's best? Can't even compare LOL nice try. NISMO is independent company that mods and upgrades cars so ur GTR NISMO is comparing to Switzer Porsche. Oh my... no comparison XD
They are ruining the actual GTR fanbase. Though, they are pretty comparable to the Vette fanboys.
***** are you comparing shares to cars? why?
***** LOL it'a not emotional its facts XD it's called science, physics maybe you heard of em' I can see you are the emotional one who's making that weird ass comment... "Pheeeeeeew right over your head (face)" even gived a fuck to make a sounding verb and a face XD. I think you are confused.
***** well... some car guys and race drivers loves lab times and how fast it can go. some car guys like how it's easy to tune and customize. but most of us want a reliable cars. Porsche does almost everything. It can be a track car, race car, Sunday car, shopping car, show off car, and mos importantly it's the most reliable sports/super car out there.
Man....he's torturing those GTR tires like the Spanish Inquisition!!
Tiff still got the drift skills
I don't know about anyone else, as much as I love the R35 GTR, the 911 in this video looked fun to drive... He was getting sideways with no issues.
People buy sports cars to have fun with them.
And if someone finds the GTR to be more fun than a 911, then so be it.
Love both cars..
Porsche looks pretty much like it did back in the 60s but it still looks way better than the GTR!
***** so in ur view, GTR will looks like stretched out cube with it's top tail copped off XD
WhatUwant? Thats actually in "your" view, clearly he was talking about the porsche...
gone2secondzin123 U don't say! he sees Porsche as a beetle that means Porsche has to be shorter, taller and narrower and that means If he saw GTR it'll look like a cube with top tail chopped off lol. r u offended that I made a comparison with cube and gtr?
Man the tire screeching on the GTR really does sound like Godzilla. Weird.
Gofgilla is awesome as always and has as breakfast some porches audis and especially ferraries !!
But don't you get upset you guys from this comment cause it's very true !!
I wonder how Keiichi Tsuchiya gonna do with the R35 and the Porsche?
hell of a driver....passenger ride please
Respect Tiff's opinion over anything from Top Gear just saying!
Great Japanese car. :-)
PampyO it’s hideous though
Love both cars but for me I prefer the new Kid in Town the Nissan GTR it has far more potential , it's easier to get it to its limits and safer at the same time
The takeaway from this video is that a twin turbo-charged Nissan is barely faster 'round the track than a non-turbo-charged Porsche with an old school manual gearbox which shifts slower [but is more fun].
Therefore I can't help but laugh at the Nissan fan-boys saying "Nissan bedst."
Let's see your overweight overhyped oversized boxcar beat the 911 Turbo S PDK. ;)
Almost 3 seconds definitely isnt 'barely' faster on the track... it's a big difference. Had it been a longer track with more straights the Porsche would have been utterly slaughtered
Considering it's twin-turbo charged and the Porsche isn't... Yeah, I'd say that's barely faster. And you also can't leave out the fact that the Porsche is manual [slower old-school shifting gearbox] and the GT-R is paddle-shift.
And had it been a longer track with more straights what would that have proven; that a twin-turbo car beats a non-turbo with the same number of cylinders? What would that be called "The DUH Challenge?"
Let's see it "utterly slaughter" a 911 Turbo S PDK [ON ANY TRACK, EVEN DRAG].
The Mind of Sorin It's a supercar killer and absolutely unmatched at its price point
Stephen R
"supercar killer"? The only thing it has is off-the-line acceleration, and that's only if you're standing still, and you somehow manage to convince your opponent in a real car to wait for you to put it on launch-control. It doesn't have very much left in it at speeds over 100 MPH. It also oversteers too much, and it's just too big and heavy, and its brakes are unimpressive too. It's also ugly and boxy; looks like a sedan not a supercar which it wants to pretend to be. The GT-R is like the fat ugly girl on the catwalk -- no one wants to see that.
If Nissan wanted to make a fast car they should have made it look like one -- not this thing.
"Warm the tires up" ? He should have said, "Get rid of the tires"...
As much as I am a gtr fan, let's get a real pro driver to see real laptimes... where's the stig when you need him
how do you know that the stig is not a retired racing driver as well??????
MoiLeRoi1 no one ever said the stig was retired... that's why I know lmao
Tiff raced Formula 1 and had numerous rides at Le Mans. And his racing resume is much better than the Stig's. The Stig now is on 5th Gear with Tiff, his last name is Collins. Shaddup about the Stig already...
Ben Collins*
what? You know who Tiff is right?
If anything, the R32 was a real game changer, hence the name Godzilla.
Without any doubts I would choose Nissan GTR.
Why, I doubt you have driven either, if you had you would realise that whilst the GTR is faster, the Porsche is far more fun to drive in every way!
mazdaman1980 Porsche may be more fun to you, but for me, Nissan GTR wins and this is MY opinion. I love Japanese cars and Nissan GTR is one of the best cars overall.
mazdaman1980 It may be just a hollow, empty option, but it is my option and for me, my option is the best. Still, GTR wins.
Why does it win?
mazdaman1980 Because for me, Nissan GTR is a fantastic looking car, it is produced by Japanese people who are true artists. Also, GTR is awesome in anime/manga (I love anime/manga), NISMO company is fantastic, GTR looks better in drifting than 911 in my opinion. I choose Nissan GTR because it is my dream car, it looks awesome in Tokyo at night. I love the interior of this car and I love the tail lights. For me, 911 is overrated and GTR is not. Some people can say - hey it's Porsche and Nissan is just Nissan, but for me GTR is sweet, sexy and anime-looking car if you know what I mean.
As much as I love the Nissan GT-R, I have to say that when the new Porsche 911 Turbo S comes out Nissan is going to have a serious problem
Had it been a 991 gt3, Bye bye ricer Nissan(:
Also bye bye additional 20k
andrew stormes the new 2015 gtr is more expensive than the gt3 and its performance numbers are no better than the previous gtr.
mainlymusicman but you get more features like led headlights, better ride quality, and well its still GODZILLA
I think it would've been a closer match if the carrera s had the pdk gearbox.
Canniballistix Much closer. Tiff appeared to struggle to combine control and gear shifting in the 911. The PDK isn't there just for tech. It's there to make the car comfortable and easy to drive going *all out*.
tiff drifting a GTR like a rear wheel drive car... so BOSS :P
The Nissan is ugly
Monsters aren't supposed to be pretty.
GODZILLA!!!!!
+Robert Foster you have common sense bro💯👹👺
Jee Tea Aaahr!!! YYYOSH!!!
2013 GTR has a better, stronger transmission, more HP (545), and better suspension then in previous model years so even when the new Porsche Turbo comes out it'll still lose on the track and road. Unfortunately too but even knowing this, I'd still buy the Porsche Turbo ;)
I was expecting the porsche to be more then 3 sec's slower, but... HATS off to tiff.. His driving is top notch. Love how he takes the apexi's. Good stuff mate.
Why would it void the warranty of the car when you turn off the traction control??? They were made to be turned on and off!
Jeremy, Are you watching this? Thats how you drive a Nissan GT-R
Hey Tiff, on the track the Porsche is a "more rewarding drive" until you realize you lost to the GT-R.
I'm still waiting for a Jason Plato review for evo
Nissan made an amazing car that packs a punch but my heart is still with Porsche....
I can understand that, for me it's the 911, quality and refinement, but the GTR looks stunning when I see them in car parks for example, especially in black. Enjoy!
No matter where, Top Gear, Fifth Gear....he will always be my favorite presenter!
Now that was a great battle! good to see Tiff in action. Great to see the nissan driven with the controls off and struggling against oversteer, don't get that from video presenters often if ever.
No, The GT-R series is a classic to any true car enthusiast.
I love my gtr and adore the 911s' but hey man I also compete in open class circuit racing, so, I understand that in a 1:20 circuit it feels really really slow to drive 2.8 seconds slower.
Of course the new Turbo S will do similar or better than the gtr, but this type of reviews are really just for entertainment.
i love how he handle that GTR...i wish i could had his skills!!!he's not Stig,but definetely his skills are more than the ordinary average driver ...
Tiff is a driving god. I've sat next to him as he drifted me around Silverstone. Genius.
stop hating the gtr it is a pure legend super car from the early times in racing.today the gtr is another machine to talk about
I really want to learn to drive like you Tiff...
You can do that in the Nissan as far as I know!
Welcome aboard, Tiff. Glad to see you working with the Evo team.
Even though the GTR won, you could just tell how involved Tiff was when he was driving the 911. Both are incredible but I would take the drivers car even if it is slower :)
Tiff, you lovable maniac! I miss your old show 5th Gear here in the states. Our loss, for sure. I concur with JayRicci, your enthusiasm is off the hook! Major kudos and keep up the excellent reporting. No one captures a car's spirit as you do, no tells of as well.
tiff one of the few presenters who can actually drive!
I recall one day a fellow behind a food counter remarked how he'd dreamt of driving a car like my BMW convertible. It was then that I realized how fortunate some of us are to experience the thrill of driving amazing machines.
In the end it's, not the car, but the locations and the experiences you achieve by driving them.
Awesome again, love these Tiff road tests/ balls to the wall!
Great clip. Love Tiff- no helmet, no music. total oversteer- full control
that intake roar from the porches cabin is soooo beautiful.
I love both cars but if i had the chance to buy which one i'd go for the GTR all the way! xD
YESSSS!!!!! TIFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!
is plato busy or can they team up again to make videos?
great combo
Not only is Tiff an amazing driver but he's great at doing these tests.
that is what we expected from GTR
i don't have to watch this to know who wins, and it wasn't really a fair battle.
the Nissan GT-R was built to beat the Porsche 911 Turbo.
the 4 wheel drift in the gtr is fking awesome!!!!!
That was a close win for the gtr
O_o Crazy that a v6 could pump so many ponies.. Thanks bro
thank you for letting me know a car with 550hp, double clutch and AWD is faster than a car with 400hp,manual and RWD......
Porsche = Amazing racing legacy and accolades
Nissan still has a great racing history, but nowhere near Porsche.
Both cars are fantastic
Who Said You Cant Drift GT-R's?
991 Turbo hasn't been released. Although, I think the 991 C4S has been. The 4 wheel drive would've been a closer contest, and so would've PDK over a stock 7 speed manual that he was using in the Porsche.
WHERE DID THIS COME FROM?! I subscribed to Evo some time ago, and this wasn't in my subscription box. I only found it just now after watching the new Boxster review.
Unfortunately got rid of the 911 early this year, now missing it so will buy another next year probably
@EVOTV Is this a one-time-only? :( I hope there are more reviews coming up by Tiff for EVO.
Good to have a feedback from someone owning both cars...
gees tiff i thought you cant drift a gtr. but this...wow!!!!
I hope to see a lot of GTR's at Japfest in June. Cant wait
1:16 drift at close 100 mph FUCK!!! most faster drift than fast and the furious tokyo drift
i agree they would have to call it monster gt-r had the gt-r had it's own assembling plant also a v8tt with the aggressive tune of the v6tt would be nice
WHY NOT 4S ???
Porsche is more of a driver's car because of that manual gearbox, it even makes Tiff more concentrated on track rather that talking.
GT-R=low cost ,high spec
911=high cost ,low spec
Amazing driving skills!! Such a pleasure to watch! :)
well Tiff was a professional racing driver.
There is no 2012 Porsche Turbo available yet...
Because it says so in the GT-R manual! Not sure if they have changed it now or not.
yes but the turbo is much heavier because it will most likely remain awd, so it could be more interesting than you think, also its a better comparison because the GT-R was benchmarked against the turbo and the 2013 model in this vid was updated specfically to go up against the 991 turbo