That is why this bloody judge gets out of hand 👌 how he treated Mshololo, Mnisi and now Mngomezulu ❤ he is now trying to be nice to Mnisi. Tjo he is rude he can't see the defence being strong. Today he is really trying to impress the lying crook gininda..we pray 🙏 and they must know we serve a just and fair God that will never leave or forsake His faithful people ...satan rata baloyi and gininda 🙈 😈👿😈👿
I fail to understand how Gininda and his Junior Police officers are expecting people who have not outsourced their thinking capacity to believe that someone could be arrested for another case and voluntarily disclosed something he had not being asked about it. If he had done that willy nilly, then he should had been taken to people to checked his state of mind, just before they even considered to started the process of the so called confession.
@Malusintombela you nailed it? I have asking myself the same question?? How can someone is arrested for drugs or Nongoma case, then from nowhere you just decide to confense about death?? Taking someone is not a joke. Gininda must accept that interrogation and torture was involved amongst the accused. It's a pity for these guys but I still do have a filling that there is a possibility that they are not involved in this Meyiwa crime but this whole shenanigans was fully planned and there's a lot of syndicate involved
The is no sense it look like he wanted badly to be big for his office as he was appointed in this big case he have dine all evil 😈 to look good to the world but we are not stupid
If the confessions were made indeed, Gininda would have been the first to testify as he is the IO. Then there would have been a plea deal! These animals think we are stupid! His English proficiency doesn't prove intellect or competence. He is a liar and crooked as fuck.
He is a smooth operator and slick as oil on the freeway. He has a gift of the garb as well. Sounds like a malignant narcissistic marchavelian psychopath. Dangerous. Like a 🐍he looks beautiful on the outside buy very lethal.
Usiphethe weGininda udlalile ngeSouth Africa neFamily yakweMeyiwa😢😢😢after u went around wanted to pay the families may ur future generations go through what these accused went through 😢😢
Yona ayikho fair shame, something must be done. We are not saying they are innocent but for Meyiwa bana they are used as a scapegoat and oKelly nabo Zandie and Longwe bejayiava ngaphandle. LoGikinja he thinks he smart idiot. One day uyozakhela umlilo enhloko wena Gininda
If honestly speaking, this so called Jinginja is an expert in investigation he would by now have arrested the people who were in the house. He would also have considered the forensic findings picked up at the Khumalos house which excluded the accused. Is this a genuine investigator or a goast investigator? He explains a lot of things which are not necessary just to impress the judge that he knows his job. Go to school Jinginja to raise another bar of torturing innocent people.
If a criminal comes in and out of the house without touching all sorts of things, they are more chances that no forensic prints are mostly likely to be found ..
Adv Mngomezulu your very intelligent don't be threatened by Ratha not forgetting assisting Baloyi and witnesses the richer always get away with everything the poorer always suffer in our Banana Republic
To be honest, Advocate Mngomezulu seem to keep repeating himself and misquoting some witnesses who have given their testimonies. He’s only bright only when there is no brighter people in the house.. Gininda is more smarter .. I am not saying all he’s saying is the truth, all I am saying Gininda is more smarter than Mngomezulu
They also has rights for your own information they're trapped but Adv Mngomezulu will set the record straight as your so-called Gininda was asked by Mngo about the case he was a witness totally pretend as forgotten and are you sure they killed Senzo I think you must also be on the witness box as you saw them
Brigadier Gininda is demonstrating his academics not his quality work. E. G the accused is arrested for other case and then suddenly accused is now made to answer to the most popular case of Senzo. The worse part of this the leading evidence to the questioning of the accused is a statement presented,Brigadier Gininda!!😛
His not sure,😂he's already halfway in the corner, he is now even saying Sgt Magula whatever her name must come answer for herself. I'm not sure he was then updated all the time by his lying buddies 😂😂😂😂
We pray 🙏 without ceasing. Shame he was so irritated with this judge that something happened that he hit his chest 😭 I started pleading the blood of Jesus over him . We must pray for defence, suspects and most of all Senzo's family 🙏
Why there is always contradicting amongst the witnesses even Gininda Obekuthiw uChief investigator mogole will not say a lie iyoooh icala likaMeyiwa amanga wodwa esiwalalelayo ihlazo support Adv Mngo bekusekude uRatha abgawancedi amawitness lokho siyakwazi singuMzansi and it's a disgrace Ratha and Baloyi by supporting a lie eHigh court
Imagine questioning 20 people of a particular incident, do you really think their explanations will be the same word to word? When one does not mention one thing you say there are all lying, really? Those nkabis sitting there kill people and we know they are lying based on the evidence before the court.
The judge is not a robot, he is human and is taking own notes. Defense is also trying to win for its clients and will try every means to do that, so is the state. Let us watch objectively.
Yizani nazo noba ngubani. The truth is on the way. No one must be killed. We belong together even if we are hungry and hate ourselves.Money will put us in shit Even if we are bosses if we keep on doing this.This case shows that no one must be killed We will seek the mrder till the end The law has a long arm.even if one is the highest Brigadier of the world.
Why is Ratha shaking his head when Gininda is answering and when he changes what he was about to say then again Ratha agrees that means he is helping him to answer the questions Wow SA if our people r going to be killed and judges and police cover up for the real criminals this is painful because this can happen to anyone ,its sad guys what we see the judge of the law defending the witnesses during cross examination
Gininda can't agree on what he did not see or hear......facts are important. Judge gets annoyed when an answer was already provided and the defense repeats the question. You need to follow the line of question without taking sides
No no no this judge is a problem why is he feeding the witnesses with the way of answering, why is he doing this its unfair to the accused persons and the defendants
This is just a mockery been done to the public, these people have done such before but now Mngomezulu is really pushing them to the edge and their lies will run out. Its clear that their stories don't add up at all and the judge keeps disturbing intentionally to take the lawyers off track.😢
the police arrested a boy in mamelodi hostel for shoplifting he told the police that he is not the one who killed someone at home but the victim is inside the hostel he suddenly took the police to the killer
"i understand the meaning of investigation and i dont want to be distorted" thats knowing a clever witness who want to distort issues. Come on Mngom !!!
I thinks Mngomezullu didn't maintain the sequences of events , when it comes connecting the dot related to officers who where at the different venues while dealing with common issues he is now busy want to iron. Gininda escape the blade
He is a clever jack amongst his stooges that ask how mych must they jump. Now he cant answer the questions asked by Mngomezulu abd why is Rata smiling 😅😅
Proven guilt. Angazi ngoba phela uphenya udaba ulusematheni kumphakathi. Once you heard that the person is admitted that he is having an information about death, you need to take it serious and explain every right of a person before the law.
Hlala ukwenza kukulungele Gininda this time ngeke uphunyuke young and old of South Africa we are praying without ceasing
Gininda is a craft man and ngeke uwine siyakhuleka eSouth Africa for ijustice kaMeyiwa and uzoyiihlanza
He won't win actually all of them and the judge
Wow Adv Mngomezulu the wisdom of God was @work in you
That is why this bloody judge gets out of hand 👌 how he treated Mshololo, Mnisi and now Mngomezulu ❤ he is now trying to be nice to Mnisi. Tjo he is rude he can't see the defence being strong. Today he is really trying to impress the lying crook gininda..we pray 🙏 and they must know we serve a just and fair God that will never leave or forsake His faithful people ...satan rata baloyi and gininda 🙈 😈👿😈👿
So true😢😢
I fail to understand how Gininda and his Junior Police officers are expecting people who have not outsourced their thinking capacity to believe that someone could be arrested for another case and voluntarily disclosed something he had not being asked about it. If he had done that willy nilly, then he should had been taken to people to checked his state of mind, just before they even considered to started the process of the so called confession.
More than right
@Malusintombela you nailed it? I have asking myself the same question?? How can someone is arrested for drugs or Nongoma case, then from nowhere you just decide to confense about death?? Taking someone is not a joke. Gininda must accept that interrogation and torture was involved amongst the accused. It's a pity for these guys but I still do have a filling that there is a possibility that they are not involved in this Meyiwa crime but this whole shenanigans was fully planned and there's a lot of syndicate involved
We r not stupid & they r not clever one day lizovela iqiniso
The is no sense it look like he wanted badly to be big for his office as he was appointed in this big case he have dine all evil 😈 to look good to the world but we are not stupid
If the confessions were made indeed, Gininda would have been the first to testify as he is the IO. Then there would have been a plea deal! These animals think we are stupid! His English proficiency doesn't prove intellect or competence. He is a liar and crooked as fuck.
He got all his promotions bcoz his talkativeness not bcoz he is hardworking
Yena iphiwe emlonyeni
He is a smooth operator and slick as oil on the freeway. He has a gift of the garb as well. Sounds like a malignant narcissistic marchavelian psychopath. Dangerous. Like a 🐍he looks beautiful on the outside buy very lethal.
Tsotsi this one.
He was supposed to be a salesman
Its ok as long fair justice is served for Senzo, meyiwa family and public at large #justice for Senzo 😢
🙏
A
Its true
Ratha akakhiphe isigwebo ngoba vele ulethelwe khona,akukho bulungiswa obungeza naye khohlwani🤞
Judge made a funny sound indeed and disturbing the court
Une nhliziyo embi uyaphumisela nge sound okuse nhliziyweni
Usiphethe weGininda udlalile ngeSouth Africa neFamily yakweMeyiwa😢😢😢after u went around wanted to pay the families may ur future generations go through what these accused went through 😢😢
It means Gininda is a billionaire if he can say he will pay those millions to those families 😂😂
Gininda is the best he answer the questions the way he supposed to and you can see he know what is talking about
Yes! They will inherit this corrupt infested system he created.
Yabona ke manje uGininda udinga Adv.Mshololo ake amphekisise sihle isandla sika Adv.Mshololo khuluma ndoda
We praying each n every day 4 meyiwas family n us senzo fvy ngeke siye ukukhuleka siyabufuna ubulungiswa
My question is why did they not directly arrest him on 636 caseinstead on planting unnecessary drugs n ammunition
The potjiekos is no longer cooking for Gininda and Rantha
Guys ngibona ubungozi obuzokwenzeka mhla kugwetshwa labafa,,ngiyayibona ne EFF isiqalile isiyayikhuluma lento yalelicala ukuthi ayihambi kahle,uze usigcine nkosiyami 🙏
Khohlwa
Yona ayikho fair shame, something must be done. We are not saying they are innocent but for Meyiwa bana they are used as a scapegoat and oKelly nabo Zandie and Longwe bejayiava ngaphandle. LoGikinja he thinks he smart idiot. One day uyozakhela umlilo enhloko wena Gininda
In my mind I think Gininda is a oversize man and old hey bakithi kazi bangaki ababoshwa bengenze lutho 🤗🤗👮♂️🙀😿😿😿
All in the name of promotion
Akukho okufihliwe okungayi kuvela akukhathaleki ukuthi izikhathi esingakanani zizosulwa izinyembezi zakwa meyiwa nezethu abalandeli baka senzo,,,,,,,,woza naye mngomezulu ,,,mkhonto kashaka ,,zuluuuuuu,kankukunkulu uzokupha amandla okubhekana namagcinga,,kasathane,,,sinawe ngomkhuleko
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂xem
Angiqali ukukuphosa imibuzo Gininda,,, you still remember me in 2003 in Johannesburg??
He is telling him that "I know your modus operandi! You are slick".
Oh Ratha Thula siyakucela
RATHA IS A DAMN DISGRACE OF THE ALREADY DISGRACED JSC
WHAT A SHAME...WHAT AN EMBARRASSMENT YOH
If honestly speaking, this so called Jinginja is an expert in investigation he would by now have arrested the people who were in the house. He would also have considered the forensic findings picked up at the Khumalos house which excluded the accused. Is this a genuine investigator or a goast investigator? He explains a lot of things which are not necessary just to impress the judge that he knows his job. Go to school Jinginja to raise another bar of torturing innocent people.
If a criminal comes in and out of the house without touching all sorts of things, they are more chances that no forensic prints are mostly likely to be found ..
Adv Mngomezulu your very intelligent don't be threatened by Ratha not forgetting assisting Baloyi and witnesses the richer always get away with everything the poorer always suffer in our Banana Republic
To be honest, Advocate Mngomezulu seem to keep repeating himself and misquoting some witnesses who have given their testimonies. He’s only bright only when there is no brighter people in the house.. Gininda is more smarter .. I am not saying all he’s saying is the truth, all I am saying Gininda is more smarter than Mngomezulu
Kahle kahle yini le esiyibona lana?? Akuthethwe icala lokuthi babulala uMeyiwa hhayi lokhu okwamalungelo ezigebengu. Akungadlalwa ngathi lana
They also has rights for your own information they're trapped but Adv Mngomezulu will set the record straight as your so-called Gininda was asked by Mngo about the case he was a witness totally pretend as forgotten and are you sure they killed Senzo I think you must also be on the witness box as you saw them
@@IvySibanyoni-jr2sg kwakutheni bengavulanga icala lokubhonya emapoyiseni
@andrehlako558 The day what happened to them and their family knocks at your family's door you'll understand it better
we all love zenzo rest in peace brother
Uyandweza ukhuluma njenge Hr ikhulumela i company.
Phendula umbuzo.
Wayekhona na umsolwa wokuqala nowesibili ophenyweni lokuhamba kukasenzo.
You were not in court Gininda but you were watching on tv or given update by your team
Gininda unamanga umogola wathi uphonele yena
Brigadier Gininda is demonstrating his academics not his quality work. E. G the accused is arrested for other case and then suddenly accused is now made to answer to the most popular case of Senzo. The worse part of this the leading evidence to the questioning of the accused is a statement presented,Brigadier Gininda!!😛
Lelijaji liyacika liyahluleka nokuzifihla ukuthi lingakuliphi uhlangothi lize liveze nokujala okuchemile okusobala kunoma ubani, angazi lisagcinelweni lapha ngoba liyahluleka nokuzifihla ukuthi lingakuluphi uhlangothi, seliziophuce nesithunzi sokubayijaji selizifanela nami engingazi lutho ngomthetho. Sizani sesikhathele ukubuka lento yalobaba ochemile😢😢
#Mngomezulu woow you know your story.😊
No Gininda.... The question was about the case you are in court for
His not sure,😂he's already halfway in the corner, he is now even saying Sgt Magula whatever her name must come answer for herself. I'm not sure he was then updated all the time by his lying buddies 😂😂😂😂
Adv.Mngomezulu qinisa kakhulu lapho kuPoyisa Gininda sicela ukwazi ukt ubani akabulala Senzo
Uqalile Ratha uphendulela iwitness
😂 hooo ujudge hayi ufanele ehle esihlalweni
Report the judge to be recused.
Udoti wekhehla
Tomorrow morning uShembe be with you MR MNGOMEZULU JUST TO CONQUIR THESE LIERS MEYIWA FAMILY TO GET FAIR JUSTICE
Khondlo Lukhona UNyazi makhona onke basazosha bonke kanye nabashushisi Thixo Mkhulu
We pray 🙏 without ceasing. Shame he was so irritated with this judge that something happened that he hit his chest 😭 I started pleading the blood of Jesus over him . We must pray for defence, suspects and most of all Senzo's family 🙏
They won't get justice if you're still defending criminals because of this conspiracy theories
Khuluma ndoda ubani akabulala Senzo Meyiwa sifun ukwazi singabahlali baseMzansi
Why there is always contradicting amongst the witnesses even Gininda Obekuthiw uChief investigator mogole will not say a lie iyoooh icala likaMeyiwa amanga wodwa esiwalalelayo ihlazo support Adv Mngo bekusekude uRatha abgawancedi amawitness lokho siyakwazi singuMzansi and it's a disgrace Ratha and Baloyi by supporting a lie eHigh court
His jumping when he sees gininda is in a corner and answer for him. Hi man this man is rising our blood pressure 😂
Imagine questioning 20 people of a particular incident, do you really think their explanations will be the same word to word? When one does not mention one thing you say there are all lying, really? Those nkabis sitting there kill people and we know they are lying based on the evidence before the court.
Bukani le jaji,,,,licemile hayi booo akakhoni nokuzibamba gcubeka mngomezulu ungapheli moya mngomezulu phakama chief
What happened to the 1st suspect with the dreadlocks?
He is sitting in court.
He's in the dock
If the Judge is biased allegedly is better to act neutral even if you know at the end you gonna Judge your biased way.
Lomkhulu kufanele ashenxe uyinkinga ngoba usewufakazi ke manje
What was those admission and usevuma ento ebuzwe kanjani kuye, sibopha ama druggs manje i admission kuvunywa ini?
U judge uze acijise umlomo efuna kuphendulela Gininja
Niyosibizela ababesendlini kengoku emva kwalomntu sifuna uva bona
UZungu lona owayeyosilanda eKZN
Is mkhulu the witnesse?Thixo kukude ekulaleni ngoxolo kukaSenzo
I thought 💭 he was intelligent 🧠 enough like Kompela no he is not he just speak polite and im not decisive by his devil 👿 lies
Funny sounds and funny hand and facial gestures by umkhulu judge is making worried about the verdict
The judge is not a robot, he is human and is taking own notes.
Defense is also trying to win for its clients and will try every means to do that, so is the state.
Let us watch objectively.
Ingede ewuGininda iyagedeza
This guys are hitmen, history said it all 😢
What were the reasons to link them?
He was arrested for druggs, give us the reasons that are associated him with Mr Meyiwa.
thanks tolika wethu that you are back
Qina. Nqoba. Mngomezulu. ungathambi. UJehova. Uzoba. Nawe
Yizani nazo noba ngubani. The truth is on the way. No one must be killed. We belong together even if we are hungry and hate ourselves.Money will put us in shit Even if we are bosses if we keep on doing this.This case shows that no one must be killed We will seek the mrder till the end The law has a long arm.even if one is the highest Brigadier of the world.
Judge Ratha, funny noise
Nklnkl esimkhonzayo uvela la sekuvalwe amehlo sesithi kuphelile bese yavela yena aqale namadoda amathathu afakwa esthandwen somlilo babethi baqedile ngawo wathi ngikhona mina ngzobakhipha.
It annoys me when this judge shows smiles when this Gininda guy answers with his lies, he becomes amused and excited
I hear the funny sound" WOOW MNGOMEZULU
19:20 Mngomezulu wakuphinda lokho kuMy Lord wambeka endaweni😂😂😂😂😂😂
This case will take long. There is no direction.
I am afraid Advocate Mngomezulu seems to be firing blanks, and the judge is cringing.😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Gininda is showing him flames
Brigadier is in the house we were waiting for him for so long .Gininda is trying to help to get hitman so that they will be to arrest mastermind
The judge is communicating to Gininda behind the back of Mngoh 🤣 using hand guestures for the second time now 😂
USING HAND EXPRESSIONS SINCE FROM DAY ONE 2 FAVOR ALL OF THE WITNESSES
UJWAYELE
Ndanditshilo ndathi simlinde kwicross examination yeva ke ngoku?
Uyaxoka akhange tu avelelwe ekoneni .. Mgomezulu was again not prepared Yhuu
Hayi amahloni kumina I judge likhuluma ngokulingisa llphinde livikele I witness this country is a joke with this week judiciary
Judiciary system is in shambles because these products of apartheid like Ratha
Ratha he's playing ""skim saam game""""he is standing with witnesses.kromm kromm qedelela ke wena😂😂😂😂😂😂
Anitshele lekhehla ukth ama advocate lawa akubona abazukulu balo sengathi alazi likuphi la
Mgomezulu is very smart line of questioning is on the right track
Kelly makakhiphe iqiniso .mabayeke ukudlala I game lana
THIS JUDGE IS A NUISANCE ALWAYS BEING A WITNESS AND ASSISTING THE STATE
Why is Ratha shaking his head when Gininda is answering and when he changes what he was about to say then again Ratha agrees that means he is helping him to answer the questions
Wow SA if our people r going to be killed and judges and police cover up for the real criminals this is painful because this can happen to anyone ,its sad guys what we see the judge of the law defending the witnesses during cross examination
It's caught on camera,the whole world saw it
Gininda can't agree on what he did not see or hear......facts are important.
Judge gets annoyed when an answer was already provided and the defense repeats the question.
You need to follow the line of question without taking sides
Yagedeza inhlava ekubizela izinyozi
Ubisi lwengulube alungeni Eguleni
Ginida and this old judge they know each other somewhere
No no no this judge is a problem why is he feeding the witnesses with the way of answering, why is he doing this its unfair to the accused persons and the defendants
This is just a mockery been done to the public, these people have done such before but now Mngomezulu is really pushing them to the edge and their lies will run out. Its clear that their stories don't add up at all and the judge keeps disturbing intentionally to take the lawyers off track.😢
Tactical move by Baloyi previous witnesses were horrible, very smart Mr Vaseline.
I still need photos with date and time from Zungu
Mngomezulu is challenging his thinking ability how he answers questions
the police arrested a boy in mamelodi hostel for shoplifting he told the police that he is not the one who killed someone at home but the victim is inside the hostel he suddenly took the police to the killer
"i understand the meaning of investigation and i dont want to be distorted" thats knowing a clever witness who want to distort issues. Come on Mngom !!!
Gininda this is not a linguistics class, please behave
I thinks Mngomezullu didn't maintain the sequences of events , when it comes connecting the dot related to officers who where at the different venues while dealing with common issues he is now busy want to iron. Gininda escape the blade
Ekaze iyozala nkomoni kulelicala yooh 😢😮
my question is how many crimes these guys were implicated? if the answer is 3 ,how many of those cases do they confess?
Mngomezulu
Thina sifuna injustice KaSenzo Meyiwa. Laba kuzocaca noma bamsulwa na? Justice for accuse, asizwa nje ngokunye.
ADV MNGOMEZULU
Baloi nale judge i hope unkulunkulu unibhekile nalamanga niwadlalayo
😂😂😂 no its other way round, Gininda is roasting the defense
He is a clever jack amongst his stooges that ask how mych must they jump. Now he cant answer the questions asked by Mngomezulu abd why is Rata smiling 😅😅
Show the face of Gininda i want to see him please
Behaviour yaleli jaji iyanginyanyisa ngoba likhombisa ngokusobala ukuthi lichemile
Proven guilt.
Angazi ngoba phela uphenya udaba ulusematheni kumphakathi.
Once you heard that the person is admitted that he is having an information about death, you need to take it serious and explain every right of a person before the law.
😂😂😂😂 judge uyajabula aze evume ngekhanda makukhuluma gininda✋south Africa ngiyathutha🤞
Hawu bengithi ngibona ngedwa, umshayela ama sign, uze avume ngekhanda, achife neso ibody language ye JAJI, soyicela Ivuthiwe
Likhohlakele lelikhehla,ngabe kuncono judge elimhlophe,ngobalona ohlezilapha usathane uqobolwakhe😢
Ujaji uchazekile unqekuzisa ikhanda nobubi
@@nomusamasina3872 RUBBER NECK
This case is obvious whith this nonsense judge fingers he can't even hold him self that he is bais & corrupt 🥶🙄🥶🤧🤧
Ratha yah for what because Gininda starts to explain Ya without hearing what he say is totally out
umaylord ungenelwe yini ngempela wakhuluma yedwa aybo logogo unani
Gininda is talkative
That's why he is a mpimpi
defensive
This Judge is eating up Ginindas story 100%
Judge is annoyed by questions because he is already having a view
Look @ the judge when Gelekexe Gininda judge fingers believes everything from him even if Gininda is talking rubbish to 🤮🥶🤮🤧
Why is captain Gininda generalizing in his answers? He should be specific about the link of the evidence to the accused.
Wabanjwa Ratha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 uyowasiza kuze kuphele icala amawitness hayi shame esouth Africa kuyi justice system sibona imanga
Heeee iso likababunkulunkulu libona emfihlakalweni gininda,,,,,,gininda,,,angifuni nokumbhala,,,nge capital letter lo gininda nxx
I agree 💯👍 with you 💯
Gininda is not a dom kop he is very smart, Mngomezulu is trying his luck😂