Marvel's Daredevil: Chopin - Nocturne Op.9 No.1 (Kingpin meets Vanessa)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2017
- Ending scene of Episode 3 of Season 1 of Marvel's Daredevil.
Wilson Fisk and Vanessa Marianna converse about a white painting on the notes of Chopin's Nocturne Op.9 No.1.
This scene is the best explanation of ART i've ever heard.
Yeees I totally agree - this is what made me understand art
Oh god no, you're doing such a disservice to art by using the "how does it make you feel" argument. What about all the writers and painters and developers that don't give a fuck about your feeling but wanna tell an interesting story that makes sense?
@@Neo2266. The only way an "interesting story" matters is if it gets you emotionally invested, either through compelling characters and/or themes. A story could have the most twists and turns, but the only way any of that matters or feels groundbreaking is if we care about the world itself or the characters being changed.
Hence, "feeling" matters.
@@lucaspoon4202 Both are correct, but your point is dependent on neo's. If you want to ignore an artist or writer's intent, that's your choice. Created works mean different things to different people as we all view them through our own experiences and pre-conceived notions. But that doesn't mean the beholder's interpretation trumps the artist's. That opens up the pandora's box of 'this can mean anything to anybody, therefore it's all meaningless'. But this doesn't make sense because the only reason you originally connected with it is because it does mean something.
The best stories understand that things still have to make sense logically at their foundational level so that the emotional connections can be formed off of that base. Of course feelings matter! But without a tether to reality, our feelings can be extremely dangerous--just look at Wilson Fisk's character in this season.
I never cared for art. It wasn’t until I saw this scene I finally understood it. I now have two art pieces hanging on my wall and I use that philosophy every time I look at a painting.
It's one of the things that i love so much about art and especially about abstract painting. The dynamic the painting gets once the paint leaves your brush and someone else than you (the artist) is looking at it. As if it became alive when being seen by acquiring a new meaning, evry time someone sees something new or different in it.
When i was younger i would spend tens and tens of hours perfecting an image, porportions, lighting, plastics etc. But when i finished i had one motive, one image. And the painting became irrelevant to me. Others loved it and appreciated the execution. I can make alot of improvements executionwise still. But i'm perfectly capable or doing pictures that look realistic now. It wasn't until then, that i wanted to create something with a more permanent meaning to it. Abstract paitings do that for me.
Good job, you've managed to rationalize something irrational, you wasted a lot of money for something utterly useless that you might not even like the aesthetics of
@@Neo2266. People spend money on useless things that many appreciate. What's the point of expensive shoes, house, cars, and clothes if cheaper alternatives can achieve the same thing. The worth of an item is the emotional response you place on it. Same goes with art.
@@Adonis_Quinn exactly
She had him at "it's about how it makes you feel"
I love how they captured the attraction of Kingpin with Vanessa.
*Inhales*
WHEN I WAS A BOY.
My father...
Lol
THIS CITY
BANESSA
SOMETHING BOOTIFUL!!
Vanessa's actress is so gorgeous.
She's a Goddess 😍
Israeli Goddess like Gal Gadot.
the arts prettier
@@ArghyadeepPal but prettier.
The lovely Aylet Zurer
I don’t know why this scene stands out so much more than any other in this series to me.
I love it; for some reason.
It's the Chopin playing in the background
Because it happens at the end of the third of three episodes we’ve gone without seeing the main antagonist, only hearing about him in hushed whispers from underlings or associates. We don’t know much about him, but know that he is very connected, very meticulous, and very ruthless. This is emphasized in the scene just before this one, where a battle-hardened, highly skilled hit man and martial artist chooses to kill himself rather than go to jail after giving up the main antagonist’s name, simply because he’s that afraid of said antagonist. Not to mention the manner in which this hit man kills himself is rather brutal and shocking; right after that, we jarringly transition to a more relaxed atmosphere for socialites and aristocrats to gawk at expensive works of art. It further emphasizes just how detached and indifferent this antagonist is from the violent world we’ve been venturing through since the first episode.
And we couldn’t be more fascinated by him.
I think it's because he's not your typical bad guy, he gets nervous asking a woman out, you see his ocd rituals, he's a very human villain if that makes sense
I just realized this is similar to the white wall he stared at before he killed his dad, when he thought about what kind of man he wanted to be
That’s the reason why he relates to this painting so much.
Well you just realized the whole point, man
Nice avatar dude. Legacy of Kain is bae
@@aldamis8384 Vae Victis
Obvious or not, the show do a great job in put art in the main subject
Daredevil Season 1 & 2 was the absolute peak of the MCU. Far above what even the best of the movies did.
Season 3 too imo
This is my best part of this whole thing, it makes me love Vanessa so much in this.
This still makes me cry. I think about Fisk so much
Like in a sexual way?
I think in the same way painters did with beautiful sights. I think the Fisk relationship is sooooo ROMANTIC!
That was the good in him, and he embraced his shadow as we see him monologue in the swat vehicle. His jail arc is so good too
Fuck other comments! I understand what you mean. He is such a great character. I would go on to say he is the best mcu villain but as the scene says these things are more subjective than objective. Others won't get what it makes us feel.
@@chintandoshi2291 We know exactly what he means, we just don't drink that much soy milk.
Vanessa Fisk, A.K.A. The Queenpin.
This is a beautiful scene and an awesome episode rabbit in the snowstorm is my favorite daredevil episode
Can you explain it to me? Im not ashamed to say that I watched it twice and still not fully understand what happened.
@@pretenderxxx2385 there is a long back story. You will have to see the show to understand. What you can understand right now is- art is subjective. Interestingly, quality is subjective. It depends upon what it makes you feel.
What a scene, what a character, what a show.
I'm going to echo the other comments here: This scene (and the one later where he's staring at it and having flashbacks) changed how I view art. I finally understood how people can buy a giant canvas with a tiny circle in the corner. This is one of the most beautiful TV scenes ever.
I love this scene! Both actors are awesome
The big bad of this series, his first appearance, we see him in a vulnerable state, and he tells a girl he likes that he feels alone.
Then the next episode he crushes a guys head with a car door.
Omg! Incredible characterization!
I honestly didn't expect the painting to be so important throughout the entire series, lol.
This was so deep like idk it made me feel emotional best explanation of art❤️🔥💯
I’m so glad he’s back.
Why? They turned him into a cartoon character.
I wish art can make me feel something
1:15 That's a look that says, "...Well shit, now I'm in love."
I got goosebumps! anyone else get goosebumps?
Geese most likely
Was listening to the song a little while back and heard the part at 1:19, couldn't figure where I knew it from. Even checked the wiki article on the song and nothing there seemed familiar. only about 5 minutes of brain searching later did I land on this scene. And a fantastic scene it is. One of the best villain introductions I've seen. It subverts every expectation a viewer has of the villain
back when writing and plot mattered rather than politics and propaganda
This show is literally all about politics..
@@komplecks888 identity* politics
Ah yes, the good old days of, *checks notes*, 2015.
@@komplecks888 Yes but it's not left-wing at its core, unlike 99% of hollywood
@@SteveNathnthe protagonist is a disabled man and the main villain is basically the embodiment of unchecked capitalism what are you talking about?
i like how this scene makes everyone in the comments section happy but it pisses me off how vanessa had the audacity to forcibly take the painting from a holocaust survivor in the last season. she is just as evil as fisk.
It was either her or Monica Bellucci 🥂👑
Yeah our boy is back
It makes me feel alone......
What is Superman's mother doing here with kingpin, I guess she survived the destruction of krypton lol
Did anyone else feel uneasy when they first saw the ending to this episode?
this show is just so good
Canceling this show was criminal.
Let’s be grateful things didn’t get as bad as Game of Thrones
At least it ended on a high note.
“A thing is not beautiful because it lasts.”
@@MrPjw5ending with just 3 seasons naturally is good but the show was cancelled.
Ayelet Zurer should return in the MCU on Daredevil: Born Again, but this time she should play Rosalind Sharpe, the attorney from Boston.
Damnn vanessa is a bomb
I was hoping to see Dana White.
lovely couple
I will be incredibly disappointed if this painting is not in the new Disney Plus show. That painting itself was like a character in the show
Make a better world, Kal.
Vanessa is hot.
Is it just me or is this lady from man of steel
Yep. She plays Kal-El's birth mother on Krypton at the start.
Same actress , Ayelet Zorer
0:50
🖼
Makes me feel like I've been gypped.
Dam
Has this scene been cut out of Season 1 on disney plus? I don't remember seeing it.
1:05
Name song?
Damn she's hot
1:06 League Of Legends players looking at their maxed account
It would be interesting if we had a QueenPin and she went against people like Karen Page and Jessica Jones
Heideggerian
Disney will absolutely ruin this mythos. Never forget the original daredevil trilogy.
I dont like and understand paintings like this b4 this scene
Goddamn I love Israeli women
I knew she sounded like Gal Gadot
All that it matter is how u can evade taxes with it so stop with bs in the comments why not sit at home and stare at blank paper instead of wasting money
They should have got the big show or Brock lesnor to play kingpin becuase there the only people that can match is physicality this actor is great but he’s not physically imposing like the comics like he should be
He is the most perfect actor for a role I have ever witnessed. The way they film him sometimes gives him that exact aura of his physically imposing radiating violence presence. There are some scenes where its a little less and he looks fat, yeah.
Yeah true, but I value performance and emotional investment more than physicality etc. Just like Hugh Jackman not being the right height. People love him anyway
Congratulations: your idea of casting one of two lunkheads from WWE to play one of the most sophisticated and Machiavellian crime bosses of all comic books was so stupid that it made me laugh hard enough to cry.
He’s chonky af in hawkeye, are you happy now?
A stupid scene that attracts pretentious people
Poor Piggle Wiggle
is that why you’re here?