@@ASUSUSA I've been running my build from college which still has a gtx 580 which was pretty sweet 10 years ago. Due for an upgrade to say the least. I'll have to check that group out for sure
Awesome information, so glad I switched to Asus boards a few generations ago now. You do a legit great job explaining this info so it's easy to understand and put into practice! Thank you
Amazing what CPUs can do now and how fast they are. Many (many, many) moons ago, over-clocking would void any warranty with CPUs, and you had to get a specialized BIOS for a supported motherboard ! A long way from the (x)86 I started out with !
I feel like the theme for ASUS's new Z690 boards is "user friendly and feature-full." Genuinely responsive and adaptive AI-based machine learning is really one of the only ways I can imagine bringing genuine overclocking to the masses. Folks (like me) who don't necessarily feel comfortable or knowledgeable enough to tweak and balance individual sliders in the Intel tuning utility, this is a fantastic middle ground. Also, the fact that it learns and adjusts based on your system's cooling performance is just so incredibly cool! Crossing my fingers and hoping I can get my hands on one! Also, props for the shout-outs to a real and fairly comprehensive list of stress tests, and explaining how they are different from real-world use!
You nailed it, ASUS AiOC is about allowing you take advantage of your CPU, CPU cooler and ASUS motherboard, easily, reliably, efficiently and of course effectively when it comes to OC all without having to spend hours upon hours upon of trial and error along research. Glad you found the video interesting and useful!
You have to be kidding me. I'm building a system after many years and I've never seen asus charge so much for such basic features like a reset button. Their z690 line is a total ripoff
@12:19 You mention enabling "Intel Forced Defaults" but you don't show where that is in the video. It just says "Load Optimized Defaults". If you said "you do this by choosing Load Optimized Defaults" then it would be clear but this leads me to believe this is a setting somewhere i need to find? Help :)
great tutorial !. I would love to see a part 2 that dives deeper (more detailed with examples) into these little AIOC tweaks mentioned at the end of the video to prevent overheating or instability etc
Overheating is not an issue as the temp is already tracked and the OC aligns with cooling performance. Those options are purely for those who are critical of wanting more advanced options or will use unrealistic synthetic stress tests. That being noted thanks for your feedback we may look to expand upon this tutorial with a more advanced guide.
I'm building a new pc and upgrading from an aorus z390 master to an Asus Z690e wifi with a 12900k. Sounds like I made a good choice. There sure are so many tweaks one can do, it's mind boggling how much it can be tweaked n tuned for performance! Thanks for the very detailed and informative info!!
@@canson1988 My current PC has a 9700k. I'm building a new pc with a Asus strix Z690E, 12900k and ddr5 5200 ram and an evga 3080ti ftw3. Using a lia LI 011d xl case with the SL120 fans and a 360 nzxt aio.
A FANTASTIC video! I followed this step by step and have been able to earn a hefty overclock on my i-7-13700K with the ASUS z690 ROG Strix -F! I have used ASUS motherboards for a few years now and don't work with any otehr board brands at the point. The UEFI is so easy to use and the boards are feature laden. I agree with another poster that a part two with some tips on manual tweaks would be great! Keep up the great work ASUS!
i as well have a 13700k currently at 5700 all core. but one thing i noticed is at idle its betwen 1.4 and 1.5 volts. then under load its 1.32 is having voltage that high while doing light loads oK?
@@lindseyhunt1090garageb from what I have gathered from other comments and threads, running at that those high voltages is unhealthy for the cpu and will decrease the life expectancy of your cpu. Also your power bill will see an increase.
@@jerrytweak I don't think you will ever see .2v increase on your power bill lol. Unless your paying 100 dollars per kw. But so far my research has been higher voltage is ok on idle because there is no load. Maybe 60 watts. But when the cpu is loaded the voltage decreases to 1.28v at 240 watts.
Thanks, JJ! Very informative, as someone who has always been an Asus fan. This adds more knowledge to my understanding of Asus mobos. Keep up the good work!
Thing is, I can't use intel XTU bc when I do open it, I get a notification that it is unable to due to a system icompatibility. Essentially saying that it is incompatible with WIndows VBS and features that enable VBS if undervolt protection is not enabled. I have the bios updated to the latest, Win 11 is to the latest as well. I cannot find anything about undervolt protection anywhere in the BIOS to enable it like it suggests.
Wow, I got the TUF Gaming Z690 Plus with i5-12600k, but did not know I don't have the AiOC functionality until now. The board still ROCKS despite this fact.
I have that cooler in my system right now and all it does is show a swirly sign wave then flicker sold white then show a swirly sign wave then flicker solid white over and over and over and over.. keeps my 12900k in the 50's under light load and it maxes in the 70's when compiling llvm on all cores for 20 minutes so the cooling is fine. How do i get it to display temperatures?
Setting up my Strix Z690-F, what is the interplay between AiOC and the AiCooling. If you turn AICooling off does the AiOC take over? Should you run them both at the same time, or does one step on the other?
I have a question. Since technically each of the stress test applications you named will deliver different results.. In terms of temps.. An example would be this, Cinebench stress test will cause highier cpu temps then something like aida 64. Which means a lower cooler score if Cinebench is used. Compared to a highier score if Aida 64 is used. If I'm a gamer and say Aida 64 is a closer stress test to gaming. Compared to cinebench being a highier load than gaming. Would it make more since to use a stress test application that could technically provided a highier cooler score? To my knowledge the AiOc is based off the cooler score. Also.. Once AiOC is enabled.. Do you recommend having bios settings on auto? Or use things like "remove all limits" to improve performance.
I know this video is pretty old, but i have the z690 motherboard. I'm running the G. Skill trident Z5 6000 ram. I'm having trouble getting my second stick of ram to work. With one stick of ram in the pc runs fine. But as soon as I put the second in my pc, it won't boot. I've updated bios to the current patch. But I still can't get it to work. Question is well overclocking my cpu fix this issue?
Waiting for my new build's components to be delivered. In the meantime I would like to ask you.. probably a silly question since it could be automatic but here we go: should I re-enable Asus Multi Core Enhanchment after applying AI overclock or leave that disabled? And why? Thanks in advance
Thanks for information. But i am facing issue with Asus Rog maximus z690 hero and the issue is when I insert motherboard hdmi port nothing display and debug code is D6. But when I insert hdmi in graphic card then entering bios automatically and not showing m.2 SSD. debug code is A9. Please tell me how to fix this issues.
Hi JJ. I know I am late to the party on this video, but after buying a 12900k and using the AiOC feature, I think you accidentally missed talking about a very important point when using this overclocking feature. It disables XMP. I noticed this when checking my ram speeds in CPUZ after using AiOC. My expensive 4,000Mhz CL16 ram kit was running at the correct timings, but only half the frequency (1,000 Mhz per channel for a total of 2,000Mhz). Sue enough when I go into the Bios and check, it turns the memory speed to automatic. I turned it on and off several times to confirm and each time AiOC turns memory speed to automatic. I reached out to Asus who confirmed this is the case to maintain stability, as running XMP and whatever other optimizations are being applied by AiOC at the same time introduces too many points of failure (what I was told). So I ran AiOC then manually changed the memory speed to 4,000Mhz. This did indeed result in stability issues at the recommended AiOC setting. This is really disspaointing and I think it should be mentioned by Asus up front. Sure, it's nice to have a 1 button OC mode, but the cost is literally half of your rated RAM frequency. I am not sure what the net gains are in practical FPS for gaining 5-8% on the CPU but losing 50% of your RAM frequency speed. Also, people (like me) who shell out money for expensive, high frequency RAM kits then lose a good portion of that investment since the RAM speed is essentially halved by default in AiOC. This then leads to a trial and error process of reducing the Optimisim setting from 100 downwards towards 50 as you try to run your baseline XMP profile at the same time as whatever else AiOC is doing. WHy isn't this discussed? Or maybe show some benchmarks of AiOC without XMP versus no AiOC and XMP enabled to see if its even worth it.
AiOC does not disable XMP as it does not touch XMP. We do not modify the DRAM divider as DRAM overclocking can introduce further instability as it is another form of overclocking and the quality of the IMC relative to your memory kit that is install can vary considerably ( population, rank, density and IC ). As such it is up to the user to enable XMP after the fact and also account for target being pursued as some values may be more likely compared to others. CPUz also does not reflect DDR values ( you need to multipy ) times two or use an alternate utility like Armoury Crate, AIDA64, The UEFI BIOS, Intel XTU etc This is covered in the guide and also covered in the in depth live stream we also have on the TH-cam channel. If you find you have instability with a higher DRAM divider you may want to attempt to drop the DRAM divider by one value and retest to see if it is stable. This is the reality of testing the limits of your memory controller. Lastly, ensure you have updated your UEFI to the latest release to have the best experience for DRAM divider scaling and AiOC.
@@ASUSUSA Hello, thanks for replying. What I mean by my comment is that if you have XMP enabled, then enable AIOC, it turns XMP off, back to manual. You have to go back in and turn it on - however, like you said, this increases the liklihood of instability. AIOC halves my ram speed to 1,000MHZ (dual channel, so it is 2,000MHZ). I need to go back into BIOS and turn it back up to 4,000MHz. This left my system unstable. So I think AIOC is a bit misleading since it leaves XMP settings out of the algorithm when overclocking. Who wants to overclock their CPU but leave XMP disabled? No one. AIOC would be more impressive if it factored in an overclock with the XMP profile ENABLED to the rated memory kit installed.
I am trying to overclock my 12700k using Aioc and I gess I just cant follow along. The 1st step is to load defaults by pressing F5, the second step is to force intel defaults? What and where is that? In the comments below, you say that performing this step is not for those who want to overclock but rather for those who want to to stay are factory clock speeds. Why add this step if its not for overclocking? Also, you mention that we should stress test our system for 30 minutes to let the system learn our thermal thresholds, but how is it going to learn if we arent supposed to turn Aioc until after we do that? It doesnt make sense to me that system would learn if its not on and in use. Also, when we do turn aioc on, do we set it to fast tuning or extreme tuning? The video is great but not very specific. Please help, thanks!
With the latest 1720 bios on Formula , the AI OC doesn't work at all, basically spits out the same results in Cinebench as stock 27200-27400 despite running at 5.4 from the "Prediction Table" -- what gives?
Does the ASUS PRIME Z690-P support AiOC? I know you only mention the PRIME Z690-A in this video, but in the 12th gen overclocking video you say that the PRIME, ROG STRIX, and ROG MAXIMUS series all support AiOC.
I'm little lost on thee enable Intel forse defaults? U need to do this to be able to run benchmarkss? And do I have to turn it back after if I'm not using a aioc? And final when I tried to use Intel xmt it won't let me use it because of my core isolation memory integrity settings?
Force defaults does not have to be enabled but if you want the settings that are closest to a base stock level of operation this would be it. If you enable AiOC you do not need to re enable or modified this value after enabling AiOC.
I recently purchased an all ROG system, and it was the easiest setup I have ever experienced. Just one app checks and updates all of my drivers. One click of a button and I can overclock easily and safely.
Tried a few different runs with AI overclocking and the performance is great. However im seeing voltages over 1.4. Is this considered safe to run daily now?
I was wondering the same thing all you have to do is set a voltage cap but it will over ride the voltage cap just a little because let’s be realistic you need that voltage
I have a new tuf gaming z690-plus wifi d4 mobo but it doesn't have AIOC. I want to OC my Corsair RGB DDR4 3600 ram first, then CPU last. How do i do it? Cant' seem to find a UEFI bios manual
This board does not offer AiOC, you would need to manually overclock the CPU via the UEFI BIOS or Intel XTU in Windows. You can find out more by joining our ASUS PCDIY group. You can enable your DRAM"s XMP profile by going into the UEFI BIOS and toggling it to on.
### HELP ### I have z690 asus rog extreme. I9 12900k. I purchased compatible TRIDENT F5-6000U3636E 16GX2-TZ5RK. 64gb. 4 dimms. The xmp profile will not work. Failed boot every time. Will there be a bios update ?
Hi, i tried onece the ai OC it crash my cinebench, what to do now how to OC? Right now i enable xmp1 then remove all limits enabled, then i went to per core usage first 4 core i set to 52 the next 4 is 50, then e core first 2 is 40 next 2 is 42, then everything is auto i did not adjust any in voltage, is this correct OC? This one i get 5ghz with boost to 5.2ghz, cinebenchr24 temp around 80 to 88 degrees, with spike of 94 on package, my cpu is 12700k with rog z690 e mobo. I am i doint it correctly? Or do i need to tweak more? Oh by ai OC it automatically gave me 5.2 ghz my tems are around 90 to 95
Not necessarily a problem Dravin. Corsair offers some great RGB fans and jayz2cents in his evaluation of this cooler also recommends another set. You can use the noctura as intake or exhaust fans somewhere else on your case
I have the Maximus hero ( capacitor installed correctly:)) and a 12900k. I'm currently using XMP 1 with Trident Z 6000 mhz CL 40. Can/Should I run XMP with the AI Over Clocking or should it be turned off?
Yeah he was just saying to enable them one at a time because if it’s unstable you won’t know which overclock is responsible. You’ll definitely want to run xmp
XMP is fine on. He was talking about overlocking your RAM further beyond XMP. XMP on and then run stress tests. Then enable AIOC. If you want to try to tweak your RAM frequency higher than XMP settings you do it last.
Please, can someone let me know what fans are used on the radiator? I am planning to buy the new aio cooler from Asus for my i9 12900k and from what I noticed it doesn’t have rgb fans.
Stock fans are noctua ippc 2000 rpm. You can put rgb fans on it but there aren’t any rgb fans that compare specs wise to the noctua fans considering they are industrial grade server fans
Any idea how to set adaptive voltage for particular core? Assuming my P-Core 5 is extremely hot, I would like to manually set adaptive voltage -0.01, where to find the setting? I know Intel Extreme Tuning can do it
You can modify per core voltage in the UEFI BIOS as part of the VF Curve, look under Extreme Tweaker. Do keep in mind some cores run hotter than others this is normal assuming your overall average is in line with expectations there may be no needed to manually offset/undervolt.
Hi JJ, I have an asus rog maximus extreme z690 , with 64 gb (16x4) ram corsair dominator platinum 5600 mhz C36. With 32 gb I can run without problems XMP 1 and 2, but with 4 modules Its imposible and I have to run to auto (default) speed (4800 mhz) or it dont POST I know this is a known issue, and I have seen other tutorials increasing DRAM voltage to make it work but I dont want to risk my system, so there is Any Official tutorial from asus to solve this, or I have to wait some BIOS update, what can I do? Thanks in advance
There are a few points to clarify, this is not a known issue as it is an issue with our board or the UEFI BIOS. What is correct is that this type of DRAM configuration and divider is not supported by the IMC ( integrated memory controller ). The assumption the IMC can support working with mix kits is incorrect or running high MT 4 DIMM configurations. This is why there is no manufacturer that produces high MT 4 DIMM kits. If you want to run a speed generally exceeding 4400MT then it must be in two DIMM configurations. Do keep in mind rank, density and IC play a part, and based on this you can see varying results/configurations. We are the leaders in DDR5 compatibility working with all key memory manufacturers as well as directly with IC producers to ensure an outstanding DRAM experience. If you want to run 5600MT this needs to be in a 2 DIMM configuration. While newer UEFI releases have contained improvements from ASUS RD team as well as Intel to maximize DRAM interoperability, compatibility, and overclocking this will be most apparent in 2 DIMM configurations which include 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB kits. If you have further questions join our PCDIY group and check out our DDR5 insights post. Best of luck with your build.
Specifically how do I captain voltage at 1.35 maximum I do not want to set a static voltage I want it to go down when not needed but I only have a cap of 1.35 V
Voltage is already adaptive so you do not need to adjust as it will vary based on load also setting a cap of 1.35 will limit the scaling. Keep in mind your voltage is relative to the cores/frequency. If you want to force limit it use the cap option noted in the video or use the V/F curve but you will be limiting scaling by a considerable margin.
I have an Asus TUF z690 Wifi. Does not having AiOC mean I can never achieve 5.5ghz type numbers? Could you share a guide for us customers who are unable to have this feature but also want to be able to manually and efficiently get there?
TUF GAMING does not support AiOC which requires hardware and firmware, it is a more entry solution. That being noted the UEFI BIOS firmware and power delivery will ensure a stable and reliable OC experience but you will need to overclock the board manually. If you have more questions consider joining our PCDIY group.
As noted in the video the enforce all limits is for testing pure stock compared to AiOC, when you using AiOC you purely complete your load testing with UEFI defaults which does not set the enforce all limits option. This is purely communicated in the video to help users understand how to best create a pure "stock" operating baseline.
@@ASUSUSA thank you for clarifying. I took the advice. Everything stock. The only thing I dislike is my frequency drop while using aioc. So to avoid this I slowly turn up the optimism scale? If so do I stress test after uping the scale? To check stability? This is for gaming.
If I want to try this, you mention going in and doing an "F5" , which will essentially reset the UEFI BIOS settings. Since I have some tweaked settings already in place such as "Resizable Bar" enabled and other minors things, Do i just need to write those down and re-apply them after the AIOC enablement and testing? I currently have XMP-1 and "AI Optimized" settings in place for slight overclocking of the memory and CPU, I would guess it's those very features that need to be turned off with the "F5" reset of the BIOS so that AIOC can start at ground-zero with it's harvesting of the data from all points (AIO cooler, mobo, CPU). Kind of a system devices telemetry importation? Is that accurate?
That is correct, re enable other parameters after the fact. With that note, the telemetry should already have been collected so you can also just move to enable AiOC.
@@ASUSUSA When I first overclocked my PC, I did it on my own by turning on the XMP I profile in the BIOS to get my RAM to 6000 (my ram is on the QVL for mobo), then i went into the Turbo settings and turned on "AI" in the E-Z setup of the bios. That's it, just those two quick things (2 setting changes). When my system rebooted it said 38% OVERCLOCK during the BIOS splash-screen reboot (ASUS). Everything ran just fine for 5 months. But then I got to watching videos of overclocking and did the "AiOC" Asus overclock after watching your videos. The BIOS splash screen said 68% OVERCLOCK and I thought everything was ok, but it wasn't because heat was spiking up even at idle i was 1.43v or higher and I even tuned the predictive value to 89. But I said "I'll run with it", then i turned my resizeable bar on (mistake).....system crashes in-game. So I turned that back off. Now I'd like to get back to that 38% OVERCLOCK splash screen but it won't take me back to that even if I go into BIOS and hit "F5" , reboot, then go into E-Z setup and set from "normal" to "AI Performance". It doesn't seem to want to take me back to that 38% Overclock message. I basically have to run at 68% Overclock or turn everything off. Ideas on how to return to the simple days of when I had it to the E-Z setting? It would put the CPU at around 5.2GHz for P-cores and run cooler and no crashes. Thx for any ideas.
This is normal and you should not change it without understanding whether your load will cause this breach for most applications it will not as they will not use all cores or AVX. If you do want to modify power limits though you can do so in Intel XTU or the UEFI. more important though is to check your performance/frequency relative tot he applications you are utilizing and if also using AVX modify the offset ( which is already enabled by AiOC )
We do not auto enable XMP as XMP is overclocking and stressing the CPU IMC alongside a CPU centric OC is not advised as you introduce two points of fault/failure. As such to ensure a better experience we leave it disabled and should you want to enable it you can. If you do not enable it and you memory has an XMP profile you are most likely not getting the rated speed/timings of your kit of memory.
As noted in the video, TUF GAMING models do not support AiOC - You can manually overclock or use basic OC presets in the UEFI or via Intel XTU. Thanks for being #TeamTUFgaming best of luck with your build, if you have more questions consider joining our PCDIY group.
After doing this my core voltage at idle - while in the BIOS is 1.447 (seemingly ridiculously high). My computer shutdown and restarted last night. Any way to keep this voltage from spiking. You mentioned a way to set voltage limits but it was not something you spent any time on and I seem to have a different bios revision that you. Mine is 2103
You BIOS does not reflect idle/load states just a set value, as such it is not relevant you can correctly more voltage in the OS. If you want it to be more conservative then adjust the optimism slider as shown in the video.
Thanks for all the help JJ. I have had a blue-screen with the windows sad face and a count-down while in overclock-mode. I had the OPTIMISTIC setting at 85 (per your suggestion to adjust it down), so I decided to turn off overclocking and did the same thing in my game and no blue-screen or system restarts. I noticed at 85 optimistic setting that the CPU core speed was between 4900 and 5100 (fluctuating) and the Core Voltage was at 1.35 to 1.448. It would seem the trade-off isn't enough to keep trying because the clock-speeds are not enough to make it worth it. Is there something I'm doing wrong or is the ASUS AiOC programmed to require that much Voltage or is just not to the point where it can optimize the voltages low enough? I'll take this farther if you think there is something I'm missing or doing wrong. Again, thanks so much JJ !!!! (Asus Rog Strix "E" z690, ddr5, 12900K with lastest BIOS - 2103). Again, no issues with my system once I turn off ASUS AiOC.
As noted in your other post, voltage is going to need to go up and is normal when overclocking. Your CPU seems be subpar in it's OC margin so you may want to first fully stress test it at full stock and confirm it passes a stress test like OCCT. From there ensure you are not enabling AiOC and XMP at the same time without verifying your DRAM XMP stability independently. If you have more issues please join our PCDIY group.
You have other issues as shown in the video their are interoperable/compatible. You may want to try uninstalling both ( independently ) reboot separately and then reinstall separately after rebooting after each uninstall.
@@ASUSUSA last question if possible. I have a z690 extreme with a 12900k and a light oc. System seems stable but sometimes when I reboot it hangs with black screen with error code: 0 What does it means?
If you do not want to have it potentially change ( which it wont ) unless your coolers performance drops as noted in the video you can select stop training. If you have more questions join our PCDIY group.
Hey JJ - love your videos, thank you. No idea if you or anyone who knows may see this, just bought/built i9-12900k Asus Rog Strix Z690-E Gaming -- everything has been great so far, I set Asus AI Overclocking per your guide above... however, my voltage and temps during Cinebench can get high (according to all the comments I read here or on other OC sites) -- over 1.4-1.45volts and temps hit 90 at their worst (I'm using NZXT Z73 Kraken AIO 360mm). My issue/question -- I can't figure out an EASY way to reduce voltage in BIOS. It's so confusing and complicated to me. Any suggestions? Is it okay if I just leave it be (with Asus AI OC on and let it do its thing) or should I be worried that voltage can be as high as 1.45-1.5 on extreme benchmarking?
Same issue here, My temps will peg to tjmax after extended tests and eventually bsod from just turning on AIOC. same cooler and basically the same board (just the F version (both the mobo F and processor KF) which should make 0 diferance)
Same here lol it’s a joke, you HAVE to set your own by core overclock and adaptive voltage, dude acts like it’s “that simple” . I have a 360mm radiator and a custom loop on my cpu, and a water cooled 3080ti, 9 fans and a custom mounted 80mm exhaust fan on my lian li O11 dynamic, instant 1.45+ voltage, thermal throttling, etc.. After setting by core and adaptive voltages I used a LOWER LOAD LINE CALIBRATION, LOWER VOLTAGES, ENDED WITH HIGHER FREQUENCIES AND MANAGED TO HIT 877 single core and 11901 on multi core CPUz benchmark.. with this “AIOC” I got 10553 and 788 because of insane temps and thermal throttling! Sp score 90 (96P 83 E) Be nice if they’d reply why this happens and doesn’t adjust! I’ll be nice and help y’all, turn on XMP1, auto let’s bios optimize, turn on OCTVB and enable first two then set 3rd option to +1 (+2 can be used but lower the negative offset in voltage), turn on your c states by going to advanced tab, then cpu power management control, c states to enabled, enabled, and c8, exit that, go to bottom where voltages are, enable BCLK aware adaptive voltage, global core acid to adaptive, negative sign .020 offset, leave turbo auto, svid voltage adaptive leave all auto, but negative sign, cache adaptive and leave plus sign, go to vfcurve 6 and apply .010 negative offset, vf core 11 apply .015 positive offset and if you bsod raise this, and also raise the offset we changed in core voltage.. exit and run it! If temps are solid and you wanna lower them more increase offset, set LLC to 3 also.. if you wanna get more performance switch to +2 OCTVB, if you want more then you’re going to have to go in detail on a by core overclock, but I bet you leaving it STOCK AND P/E cores on AUTO with OCTVB and ADAPTIVE BOOST ON. You’ll smoke your “AI OC” this guy explained because the voltages are insane and we BSOD immediately of temps get to 100c in cinebench instantly! Even after setting an offset and if you regulate temperature the performance hit is worse than stock everything
Hey mate nice video. I have a quick question, i have ASUS rog z690 formular also have 4 sticks of Dominator ddr5 ram 5600mhz and iv been told that the new boards don’t like 4 sticks when xmp is enabled? Some say it’s fine some say it’s unstable? Are you able to shed some light at all? Thanks heaps
There are no issues with 4 DIMM XMP, it is that 4 DIMMs places a different load/requirement on the IMC and 4 DIMM configurations just like in prior DDR4 do not support operating at the same frequencies. There are more complicated aspects to this including rank, density and IC type but overall, you cannot expect to run a XMP profile designed for 2 DIMMs on a mixed 4 DIMM kit and furthermore the frequency support will differ. Generally, 2 DIMMS assuming they are rated for high speeds can generally reach/support 6000MHz, but 4 DIMM is going to be lower around 4000-4400MHz+
@@ASUSUSA no worries thanks for the reply. Will a bios update in the future end up fixing this so we can run the full speed with 4 Dimms in operation? Thanks mate keep up the great videos 👌
@ Asus. Thanks for that explanation, a lot of people are wondering about that. The conclusion seems to be by the highest Ram you can at 2 sticks and run it at full speed since you are never going to use Beyond 32 gigabytes for anything anyway
hello again, great video. After doing the AiOC procedure and up to new bios and all other firmware updates. My CPU Core Voltage is camping around 1.439 and I notice My Package 1 temps crank up really fast and hard even when just gaming as opposed to stress or benchmarking. (12900K). Seems like my performance is affected by the high voltage but no unstable CTD's or anything like that, did all the stress testing and benchmarking before and after (after stress testing up to 80~C.) Using a Corsair Capellix Ultra 360mm AIO , lots ot case fans too. But worried that my temps are high. Does 1.439v seem like a high number at idle ? (no applications open). CPU Clock is showing 5200 in ROG CPU-Z, and in AI Suite 3 , the CPU Clock is just hovering around that same number , generally 5.176 to 5.200.
If you have your power profiles set to normal then the voltage and frequency will drop when your system is idle or under light loads. There is no static VID used with ASUS AiOC. Temperatures can peak and also be hotter on some cores than others, that is normal. The important value to check is relative AVG over a period of time. If you prefer to reduce performance, then use a target temp value but this will lower your OC scaling.
Your question does not make sense, can you clarify? Overclocking by it's nature will not optimize cooling but put more demands on your cooling solution due to an increase in cooling requirements due to high temperatures. If you want an easy way to calibrate and tune your fan(s) you can use our Fan Xpert fan calibration and profiling feature as well as AiCooling. These can be accessed in the UEFI BIOS or via the Armoury Crate or AiSuite III system utility.
When rendering using davinci resolve, my new pc is using %100 CPU, is at 90°c. This is with a I7 12700kf, rog strix z690 gaming f mobo, 32gb ddr5 ram and just a twin fan deep cool cooler (cheap cooler I know). Would it risk raising the temp above 90°c with Ai overclocking enabled, when rendering using this software, or would the Ai overclock adjust for that task and revert the overclock back to its usual parameters for other applications such as gaming? I paid a fortune for my new pc to have these features, I should start utilising them. I'm not sure my case would fit a 3 fan cooler, but it would fit a better twin fan cooler if you think it would help, down the track when funds permit. Currently, I'll have to make with do with the deep cool twin fan set up that I've got. Your informed opinion would be much appreciated! P.s I've uninstalled armoury crate, can I Ai overclock without this app, just using the ai function and the Intel firmware that's free to download? Sorry for all the questions, just still learning this stuff. I stopped gaming when quake 2 and diablo was out, it's been a long time between drinks but it's great to be back! 🤣👌
AiOC is based on your coolers measured performance meaning the peak OC will be limited based on the coolers performance. The better the cooler the higher the OC will be implemented. In your situation, with a less performant cooler you can keep AiOC but the all core OC as well as per core OC will be less than if you had a higher performing cooler. If you find yourself consistently rendering then consider if possible a cooler like our TUF GAMING 240mm AIO solution. AiOC as shown in the video can be enabled via the UEFI BIOS and is firmware based. It does not require software to run. Feel free to join our ASUS PCDIY group linked in the description. Best of luck with your build.
Hey I got this mobo but my system takes really really long time to boot. Where could I get help to solve this issue please? Got a i9 12900KS, asus Rog Strix LC 3090 ti, 64 DDR5 corsair dominator, ROG RYUJIN II 360, Thor 850 W. Is there any easy way to fix or any option in the Bios that I might be missing? Thanks in advantage.
Lengthy BOOT is normal for high end system that are overclocked, have more memory and many internal and external devices. You can at times help by updating your UEFI but this is a really of more complex configurations. Consider sharing your build in our PCDIY group. Best of luck with the build.
@@krontexpit Hey! Thanks for asking. Hope your build is coming along. Mine is still sitting in boxes in the corner. Injured my right shoulder, so it's going to be awhile before I build. I returned the Asus TUF 3080Ti because I found an EVGA 3080ti (yes, I paid too much, but worth it to have EVGA customer service). At least I can use the new 34" LG Gsync ultra wide monitor. Best to all.
@@GySgt_USMC_Ret. That sounds epic, I hope you get better soon so you can enjoy the process of putting it together. This was my first PC build ever and I had a blast. Luckily I had no major problems besides not plugging in some connectors all the way! I also went with EVGA, but a 3060. I’m not much of a PC gamer so I figured going higher than that isn’t worth it for me. Wish you the best!
@@waskus there was another guy above saying that running aioc caused their xmp profiles to disable so they enabled them again and had stability issues. That being said how would one sort that?
@@housebaelishgaming I have no stability problems with AiOC and XMP. I got a 12700k, asus z670 D4, 2x8gb 4400mhz ddr4 ram. After enabling AiOC it will reboot and if it has reset bios to enable AiOC, just enable XMP again.
Make sure you UEFI is up to date, enabling AiOC should not produce a stop error immediately as it requires a reboot to apply as such this would indicate you have other issues. You may want to reinstall your OS, if you have more problems consider joining our PCDIY group.
Hey JJ, ASUS NA Team, awesome video, I think I have watched 3 or 4 of the various versions or live streams you did JJ, very good content. I am late to the party as I like to let new hardware bios and ram versions settle before I buy as I normally like to OC, but I will definitely be taking advantage of AIOC this time. now to my Question... you mentioned F5 load factory defaults and set disable on the factory Intel setting ( which forces use of standards) turn on AIOC after doing your baselines etc.. After you do the baselines, with and with out XMP, then with and without AIOC then finally together with XMP.. do you turn the Intel standards back to controlled by the Bios?
No, when overclocking you would leave this value on auto. Force Intel defaults is only applicable for users who do not want to OC and want to run their system within the constraint of pure stock operating parameters.
@@ASUSUSA thanks, just purchased z690e motherboard and have an artic 360 cooler I haven’t opened for 7 months. Apparently I need some sort of adapter for the cooler?
After the latest BIOS update for my Z790 maximus hero, AI OC from Asus is crashing certain apps and giving crashes for my i9-13k cpu sadly. It used to work just fine before the update, I hope Asus takes a look and eventually fixes this.
I was having issues and downloaded the 1501 bios version and as of right now my AI OC is working well. XMPII, Corsair ddr5 dominator 6000, 13900k, 3080TiFE. One day the AI OC was causing massive bsod's which I found out after trying so many things. Seems to be working fine now. Not going to 1801 bios version if this one is working. Read someone was having issues with the 1801 bios version and rolled back to 1501 bios version as well.
Thank you very much, you were very helpful! with thermal velocity boost and aioc İ am enjoying using 12900k at 5600ghz with rog extreme board and rog ryujin 2 cooler. :) next on my list manually oc'ing corsair dominator 64gb (32*2) ddr5 ram :)
Join our PCDIY group, not sure what your question is, if you have an XMP kit ensure you have updated the UEFI and then load the XMP profile. Keep in mind if you are running duplicated/mix kits you will not achieve the DRAM scaling of only two DIMM kits.
@@ASUSUSA TY for the response -- the question was regarding RAM overclocking. Was just wondering if there was any tips you had with regards to getting at least the factory spec'd 5200Mhz for the RAM -- at the moment, the highest I can get is 4400. Have tried increasing voltage to no avail. 16x2's Corsair vengeance 5200 mhz with the asus ROG Z690 Mobo... TY! Will join group, as well.
@@housebaelishgaming Hey there.. well yeah biggest mistake I made was to seat the ram incorrectly -- have to occupy slots 2 and 4 -- not 1 and 3... Try that... Once I did that it OC'd easy.. got it at 5400 mhz now
That is the great thing with ASUS AiOC, you can just enable it and not worry about the rest. If very concerned about temps you can always set a target temperature but in most cases this is not needed.
i have a question why am I running a 13900kf with the same ryuijin 3 360 aio is what i got and you have like 175 rating on cooler and I have 144 and i most def can never use ai optimize i let it do that and I'll never boot unless I turn it offalso even running it stock no overclock any stress test i do crashes within a minute or so running a strix 4090 oc, 32gb corsair ddr5 5200 z790 hero , thor 1200 watts samsung pro4tb 990 m.213900kf, 7 QL 140 mm fans aio ryuijin 3 360 helios case not even close to a year old and bought all brand new drivers all up to date sfc checked ouyt good DISM all comb back good pretty bad when I buy top of ther line and my 159600k z390 ddr4 strix 2080 super had way less problems and could complete stress tests and games that worked on a 2080 super constantly crashes or won't even load old system happy newer 5k more spent miserable for almost a year with 10's of hoursa trying to figure it out and still no fun
You should contact service and support and request help debugging your issue. Just engaging AiOC should not cause immediate BOOT issues. You may have a faulty component or installed something incorrectly. I would advise you to load F5 defaults, reinstall your OS, and then perform a system stress test either with Aida64 that comes included with your board or via a utility like OCCT. You should be able to pass CPU, DRAM, Graphics, and PSU without issue at F5 default. If it fails, it would indicate a hardware issue. You can also run a memory test within the UEFI independent of the OS as a quick check. This is good to first verify your issue is not DRAM related. Keep in mind DRAM failure can also be tied to pin pad issues and dirty contacts. Ensure your testing is first performed at F5 defaults to confirm it is not OC-related.
What I would like to see is when it comes to over clocking that the entire system makes the changes it needs to make when you make choice to over clock your cpu.. and when it comes to overclocking a cpu.. I would like to see the settings for it this way.. either automatic and or manual, and then on automatic, it would make changes to both the cpu and the ram given the amount of how much you want to increase the overclocking of the cpu.. and with the settings of Underclock with settings of 100 every time you want to go low.. example if you have a cpu at 3500, when you want to underclock the cpu, it would show 3400, 3300 3200 ect.. going down.. and if you wanted to overclock the cpu.. from 3500 also increasing by 100 for each one... so if I want to lightly over clock, I can pick say 4000 or I can pick 4500 or 5000.. which ever I want.. and when I pick say 4000, then the Memory would also change with that increase which would best suit that over clock at 4000.. or if I wanted to increase the overclock to 4500.. then when I set the overclock to 4500, the memory would automatically set to a setting which is best suited for the cpu at 4500.. so you set the CPU to a certain overclock and the system knows whats best for other settings of the Memory as well.. so if you want to either underclock or over clock your CPU, you would do so automatically in increments of 100.. and it would be nice to have it so your system would remember some of the settings you want to save.. so with one button, it would run a medium over clock or an aggressive overclock.. and of coarse, you always have the option of manually setting any and all settings in overclocking.. but the idea here is, to make it easy for those who are novices and they can simply over clock in increments of 100.. and JJ, not sure about the newer Intel CPU's with P Cores and E Cores, if you can just overclock the P cores and not touch the E cores.. how does that work JJ?
I wish it worked but Nope… I’m running the asus rog strix with a 12900k and every benchmark I’ve done with a manual per core OC beats the AIOC by a large margin. 27180 on a manual OC with cinebench r23 vs 24622 on multicore. AIOC runs 5.5 when the computer is idling (really useful) and as soon as you put any load on such as games or benchmarks it drops massively reducing any potential benefit. AIOC crashed my system 4 out 5 times I’ve run it. Not being able to use XMP with AIOC makes no sense. It needs a little more work to beat a true manual OC with a stable 5.2 IMO.
AiOC is a manual based OC and with a manual all core OC you are not leveraging the benefits of per core increments/efficiency. The values you have while valid also are as always variable. The benefit of AiOC is the scaling is specific to your CPU and cooling solution and adaptively adjustments based on cooling performance. The value you also note is 5.5 possibly for one or two threads or one core. You need to detail the whole per core range which on average will be between 200 to 500MHz over the default Intel multiplier range. You can also easily modify the profile once defined increasing it, lower it, targeting a voltage or a temp value if you would like. While your sample is valid we test hundreds of CPU samples to arrive at the adaptive voltage targets and per core OC targets utilized in AiOC. Regardless you have both options available to you manual or AiOC or even a mixture of both should you use AiOC as your "base" and then customize.
Just something to say to asus remember the slider tablet from 2011 or 2012? For a new suggestion form a new product (not really). I thought people would like a tablet featuring usb, micro sd and a sliding keyboard! I hope this could be the next big thing
I've got 5.5x2, 5.4x3, and 5.3x3 on my 12900K. Everything looks good. Though when it's idle I notice 1 or 2 cores dropping to 800MHz, is that normal? Under load it seems fine. Thermal package limit set to 90C. In R23 it drops to 5.1GHz which is perfect. Temps never really break 85C. Everything is performing really well. Just the 800MHz that's throwing me off. May be totally fine.
@@ASUSUSA I know a lot about overclocking And the most important thing for the game was the smoothness of the game and the delay in memory. Not cpu clock up down
I have done a OC in other way, so 5ghz on all P-cores and 4.1ghz at all E-cores with a undervolting ( - offset) and the system is pretty much stable, 80 degrees celsius at max in Cinebench R20... This is more as enough for me and i have the Asus z690 prime-a, i just love those mainboard ❤️
When I use AI OC it sets insanely high CPU voltage, like up to 1.6V at at times! Which makes me feel really uncomfortable, it's one thing for some guy from ASUS to tell you to do this, but at the end of the day ASUS aren't going to be liable for my CPU when it lets go the magic smoke.
Have you updated your BIOS. And what are the temps when its running at that voltage? Might be misreporting the voltage? If its an issue the CPU will throttle and then shut down. Or you could go into AIOC and use the feature there to limit voltage.
As noted in the guide you can define a voltage cap. 1.6 would generally only be applied in limited scenarios with very good cooling. If you want to reduce just set the cap, or reduce the slider. Also keep in mind you can measure the voltage which is only a peak voltage to a low number of cores and not a sustained voltage ( difference between adaptive or static voltages ).
Ensure you have updated the UEFI, if you continue to have issues as noted in the video you can modify the slider within AiOC features to make the OC more conservative.
@@ASUSUSA I think I know what it was. It was my cooler score not being set to static. When idle for long periods of time my cooler score goes upto between 175-178, and when under heavy load, eventually will go as low as 157 (after +30 mins of cinibench or a long gaming session). What it was doing was gradually increasing the OC the longer I idled for as the cooler scores got better and better, till the point it was pushing 5.6-5.7GHz 3 core (breifly) and 5.3-5.4GHz all core under load (or at least it tried till it instantly thermal throttled and/or BSOD)! If I suddenly loaded it after it being idled for a long time, it just couldn't handle it as the clocks would be for a much more effeciant cooler than how mine actually reacts under load, crashing the system as they were just unstable. After long gaming sessions my cooler score would go down, as would the clocks, and without thermal throttling being involved. I just set it to do not continue updating cooler after resetting it's learning and ran cinibench for 30 mins again, but this time fixed the cooler score to not update so the cooler score wouldn't keep kreeping up at idle when temps were really low pushing my clocks into unstable territory when under load. I always have latwst bios/drivers. Am on 1505 and have been since close to when it came out. Thanks for the reply though.
I've honestly been looking to build a new PC for a long time. Watching these videos, theres no way I'm not going with ASUS!
Thanks for keeping us in mind and if you need help on picking components considering joining our PCDIY Group.
@@ASUSUSA I've been running my build from college which still has a gtx 580 which was pretty sweet 10 years ago. Due for an upgrade to say the least. I'll have to check that group out for sure
Awesome information, so glad I switched to Asus boards a few generations ago now. You do a legit great job explaining this info so it's easy to understand and put into practice! Thank you
Amazing what CPUs can do now and how fast they are. Many (many, many) moons ago, over-clocking would void any warranty with CPUs, and you had to get a specialized BIOS for a supported motherboard ! A long way from the (x)86 I started out with !
Intel CPUs - Overclocking still voids the warranty...
@@MrMindlink amd too it's industry standard
@@MrMindlink Lol. Yeah I remember those days. Now the time has changed.
I feel like the theme for ASUS's new Z690 boards is "user friendly and feature-full."
Genuinely responsive and adaptive AI-based machine learning is really one of the only ways I can imagine bringing genuine overclocking to the masses. Folks (like me) who don't necessarily feel comfortable or knowledgeable enough to tweak and balance individual sliders in the Intel tuning utility, this is a fantastic middle ground. Also, the fact that it learns and adjusts based on your system's cooling performance is just so incredibly cool! Crossing my fingers and hoping I can get my hands on one!
Also, props for the shout-outs to a real and fairly comprehensive list of stress tests, and explaining how they are different from real-world use!
You nailed it, ASUS AiOC is about allowing you take advantage of your CPU, CPU cooler and ASUS motherboard, easily, reliably, efficiently and of course effectively when it comes to OC all without having to spend hours upon hours upon of trial and error along research.
Glad you found the video interesting and useful!
@@ASUSUSA please tell if z690-p can be used for non k overclocking
You have to be kidding me. I'm building a system after many years and I've never seen asus charge so much for such basic features like a reset button. Their z690 line is a total ripoff
@12:19 You mention enabling "Intel Forced Defaults" but you don't show where that is in the video. It just says "Load Optimized Defaults". If you said "you do this by choosing Load Optimized Defaults" then it would be clear but this leads me to believe this is a setting somewhere i need to find?
Help :)
Straight to the point. Clear and concise. Love it.
Thanks for the feedback and for the view, best of luck with your build.
That AIO looks just amazing!
Where have you mentioned how to enable AIOC ???? You are mentioning what to do before and after @14:32
great tutorial !. I would love to see a part 2 that dives deeper (more detailed with examples) into these little AIOC tweaks mentioned at the end of the video to prevent overheating or instability etc
Overheating is not an issue as the temp is already tracked and the OC aligns with cooling performance. Those options are purely for those who are critical of wanting more advanced options or will use unrealistic synthetic stress tests.
That being noted thanks for your feedback we may look to expand upon this tutorial with a more advanced guide.
How did you get that custom lighting on the io screen?
I'm building a new pc and upgrading from an aorus z390 master to an Asus Z690e wifi with a 12900k. Sounds like I made a good choice. There sure are so many tweaks one can do, it's mind boggling how much it can be tweaked n tuned for performance! Thanks for the very detailed and informative info!!
i have z390 master too , are you running 9900k also? i can't decide if i should upgrade or wait next generation.
@@canson1988 My current PC has a 9700k. I'm building a new pc with a Asus strix Z690E, 12900k and ddr5 5200 ram and an evga 3080ti ftw3. Using a lia LI 011d xl case with the SL120 fans and a 360 nzxt aio.
A FANTASTIC video! I followed this step by step and have been able to earn a hefty overclock on my i-7-13700K with the ASUS z690 ROG Strix -F! I have used ASUS motherboards for a few years now and don't work with any otehr board brands at the point. The UEFI is so easy to use and the boards are feature laden. I agree with another poster that a part two with some tips on manual tweaks would be great!
Keep up the great work ASUS!
i as well have a 13700k currently at 5700 all core. but one thing i noticed is at idle its betwen 1.4 and 1.5 volts. then under load its 1.32 is having voltage that high while doing light loads oK?
@@lindseyhunt1090garageb from what I have gathered from other comments and threads, running at that those high voltages is unhealthy for the cpu and will decrease the life expectancy of your cpu. Also your power bill will see an increase.
@@jerrytweak I don't think you will ever see .2v increase on your power bill lol. Unless your paying 100 dollars per kw. But so far my research has been higher voltage is ok on idle because there is no load. Maybe 60 watts. But when the cpu is loaded the voltage decreases to 1.28v at 240 watts.
Thanks, JJ! Very informative, as someone who has always been an Asus fan. This adds more knowledge to my understanding of Asus mobos. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the feedback, glad you found it useful. Best of luck with your build.
Pls what is the CPU cooling fans that show the ROG rgb in the back of you?
Thing is, I can't use intel XTU bc when I do open it, I get a notification that it is unable to due to a system icompatibility. Essentially saying that it is incompatible with WIndows VBS and features that enable VBS if undervolt protection is not enabled. I have the bios updated to the latest, Win 11 is to the latest as well. I cannot find anything about undervolt protection anywhere in the BIOS to enable it like it suggests.
Thanks JJ😀❤️👍
I can find, in Armoury crate and in my UEFI bios how to overclock using AiOC. But if I am not happy... how do I go back??
Hi JJ
Asus has really come a long way since I bought my first Asus motherboard a P8Z77-V PRO 9 years ago. Keep it up.
Thanks for being #TeamASUS - Best of luck with your build!
Wow, I got the TUF Gaming Z690 Plus with i5-12600k, but did not know I don't have the AiOC functionality until now. The board still ROCKS despite this fact.
Thank you Juan José, very interesting as usual 👍
I have that cooler in my system right now and all it does is show a swirly sign wave then flicker sold white then show a swirly sign wave then flicker solid white over and over and over and over.. keeps my 12900k in the 50's under light load and it maxes in the 70's when compiling llvm on all cores for 20 minutes so the cooling is fine.
How do i get it to display temperatures?
Can I still use AI Overclocl Tuner to load up my XMP progile while AI OC is enabled?
AiOC will not enable XMP, once you have reached a satisfactory point with AiOC you can enable XMP.
Setting up my Strix Z690-F, what is the interplay between AiOC and the AiCooling. If you turn AICooling off does the AiOC take over? Should you run them both at the same time, or does one step on the other?
I have a question. Since technically each of the stress test applications you named will deliver different results.. In terms of temps.. An example would be this, Cinebench stress test will cause highier cpu temps then something like aida 64. Which means a lower cooler score if Cinebench is used. Compared to a highier score if Aida 64 is used. If I'm a gamer and say Aida 64 is a closer stress test to gaming. Compared to cinebench being a highier load than gaming. Would it make more since to use a stress test application that could technically provided a highier cooler score? To my knowledge the AiOc is based off the cooler score.
Also.. Once AiOC is enabled.. Do you recommend having bios settings on auto? Or use things like "remove all limits" to improve performance.
I know this video is pretty old, but i have the z690 motherboard. I'm running the G. Skill trident Z5 6000 ram. I'm having trouble getting my second stick of ram to work.
With one stick of ram in the pc runs fine. But as soon as I put the second in my pc, it won't boot.
I've updated bios to the current patch. But I still can't get it to work.
Question is well overclocking my cpu fix this issue?
Awesome video, a lot of great information and easily explained. Thanks Asus !
Waiting for my new build's components to be delivered. In the meantime I would like to ask you.. probably a silly question since it could be automatic but here we go: should I re-enable Asus Multi Core Enhanchment after applying AI overclock or leave that disabled? And why? Thanks in advance
Thanks for information. But i am facing issue with Asus Rog maximus z690 hero and the issue is when I insert motherboard hdmi port nothing display and debug code is D6. But when I insert hdmi in graphic card then entering bios automatically and not showing m.2 SSD. debug code is A9. Please tell me how to fix this issues.
Hi JJ. I know I am late to the party on this video, but after buying a 12900k and using the AiOC feature, I think you accidentally missed talking about a very important point when using this overclocking feature. It disables XMP. I noticed this when checking my ram speeds in CPUZ after using AiOC. My expensive 4,000Mhz CL16 ram kit was running at the correct timings, but only half the frequency (1,000 Mhz per channel for a total of 2,000Mhz). Sue enough when I go into the Bios and check, it turns the memory speed to automatic. I turned it on and off several times to confirm and each time AiOC turns memory speed to automatic. I reached out to Asus who confirmed this is the case to maintain stability, as running XMP and whatever other optimizations are being applied by AiOC at the same time introduces too many points of failure (what I was told). So I ran AiOC then manually changed the memory speed to 4,000Mhz. This did indeed result in stability issues at the recommended AiOC setting. This is really disspaointing and I think it should be mentioned by Asus up front. Sure, it's nice to have a 1 button OC mode, but the cost is literally half of your rated RAM frequency. I am not sure what the net gains are in practical FPS for gaining 5-8% on the CPU but losing 50% of your RAM frequency speed. Also, people (like me) who shell out money for expensive, high frequency RAM kits then lose a good portion of that investment since the RAM speed is essentially halved by default in AiOC. This then leads to a trial and error process of reducing the Optimisim setting from 100 downwards towards 50 as you try to run your baseline XMP profile at the same time as whatever else AiOC is doing. WHy isn't this discussed? Or maybe show some benchmarks of AiOC without XMP versus no AiOC and XMP enabled to see if its even worth it.
AiOC does not disable XMP as it does not touch XMP. We do not modify the DRAM divider as DRAM overclocking can introduce further instability as it is another form of overclocking and the quality of the IMC relative to your memory kit that is install can vary considerably ( population, rank, density and IC ).
As such it is up to the user to enable XMP after the fact and also account for target being pursued as some values may be more likely compared to others.
CPUz also does not reflect DDR values ( you need to multipy ) times two or use an alternate utility like Armoury Crate, AIDA64, The UEFI BIOS, Intel XTU etc
This is covered in the guide and also covered in the in depth live stream we also have on the TH-cam channel.
If you find you have instability with a higher DRAM divider you may want to attempt to drop the DRAM divider by one value and retest to see if it is stable. This is the reality of testing the limits of your memory controller.
Lastly, ensure you have updated your UEFI to the latest release to have the best experience for DRAM divider scaling and AiOC.
@@ASUSUSA Hello, thanks for replying. What I mean by my comment is that if you have XMP enabled, then enable AIOC, it turns XMP off, back to manual. You have to go back in and turn it on - however, like you said, this increases the liklihood of instability. AIOC halves my ram speed to 1,000MHZ (dual channel, so it is 2,000MHZ). I need to go back into BIOS and turn it back up to 4,000MHz. This left my system unstable. So I think AIOC is a bit misleading since it leaves XMP settings out of the algorithm when overclocking. Who wants to overclock their CPU but leave XMP disabled? No one. AIOC would be more impressive if it factored in an overclock with the XMP profile ENABLED to the rated memory kit installed.
The ryujin 2 360 has rgb? I'm just curious because doesn't it come with Noctua fan's?
I am trying to overclock my 12700k using Aioc and I gess I just cant follow along. The 1st step is to load defaults by pressing F5, the second step is to force intel defaults? What and where is that? In the comments below, you say that performing this step is not for those who want to overclock but rather for those who want to to stay are factory clock speeds. Why add this step if its not for overclocking? Also, you mention that we should stress test our system for 30 minutes to let the system learn our thermal thresholds, but how is it going to learn if we arent supposed to turn Aioc until after we do that? It doesnt make sense to me that system would learn if its not on and in use. Also, when we do turn aioc on, do we set it to fast tuning or extreme tuning? The video is great but not very specific. Please help, thanks!
With the latest 1720 bios on Formula , the AI OC doesn't work at all, basically spits out the same results in Cinebench as stock 27200-27400 despite running at 5.4 from the "Prediction Table" -- what gives?
Does the ASUS PRIME Z690-P support AiOC? I know you only mention the PRIME Z690-A in this video, but in the 12th gen overclocking video you say that the PRIME, ROG STRIX, and ROG MAXIMUS series all support AiOC.
Did you make any fan curve changes, bios changes or any settings to obtain this 189 cooler score? If so please mention details.
No the coolers profile was set to standard
It was probably done out of a case on a test bench.
I'm little lost on thee enable Intel forse defaults? U need to do this to be able to run benchmarkss? And do I have to turn it back after if I'm not using a aioc? And final when I tried to use Intel xmt it won't let me use it because of my core isolation memory integrity settings?
Force defaults does not have to be enabled but if you want the settings that are closest to a base stock level of operation this would be it.
If you enable AiOC you do not need to re enable or modified this value after enabling AiOC.
with my 13700k when its idling its around 1.51 volts... when its under load its 1.3v thats with ai overclocking. is 1.5v high with only 20-30 watts.
I recently purchased an all ROG system, and it was the easiest setup I have ever experienced. Just one app checks and updates all of my drivers. One click of a button and I can overclock easily and safely.
Thanks for being #TeamROG best of luck with your build and setup! Feel free to share in our ASUS PCDIY group.
Tried a few different runs with AI overclocking and the performance is great. However im seeing voltages over 1.4. Is this considered safe to run daily now?
No
I was wondering the same thing all you have to do is set a voltage cap but it will over ride the voltage cap just a little because let’s be realistic you need that voltage
my R23 keeps popping up bug report, and cannot finish benchmarking after turning on AI oveclock. How can I fix?
That means unstable
I have a new tuf gaming z690-plus wifi d4 mobo but it doesn't have AIOC. I want to OC my Corsair RGB DDR4 3600 ram first, then CPU last. How do i do it? Cant' seem to find a UEFI bios manual
This board does not offer AiOC, you would need to manually overclock the CPU via the UEFI BIOS or Intel XTU in Windows. You can find out more by joining our ASUS PCDIY group.
You can enable your DRAM"s XMP profile by going into the UEFI BIOS and toggling it to on.
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I have z690 asus rog extreme. I9 12900k.
I purchased compatible TRIDENT F5-6000U3636E 16GX2-TZ5RK. 64gb. 4 dimms.
The xmp profile will not work. Failed boot every time. Will there be a bios update ?
Great video. You address so many valid points! :)
Glad it was helpful!
Hi, i tried onece the ai OC it crash my cinebench, what to do now how to OC? Right now i enable xmp1 then remove all limits enabled, then i went to per core usage first 4 core i set to 52 the next 4 is 50, then e core first 2 is 40 next 2 is 42, then everything is auto i did not adjust any in voltage, is this correct OC? This one i get 5ghz with boost to 5.2ghz, cinebenchr24 temp around 80 to 88 degrees, with spike of 94 on package, my cpu is 12700k with rog z690 e mobo. I am i doint it correctly? Or do i need to tweak more?
Oh by ai OC it automatically gave me 5.2 ghz my tems are around 90 to 95
Are those coolermaster fans on the AIO cos the Ryujin 2 has Noctua non RGB fans yeah?
Yes, but we will offer a aRGB edition of the RYUJIN II soon.
@@ASUSUSA Dam I just brought the non rgb one.
Not necessarily a problem Dravin. Corsair offers some great RGB fans and jayz2cents in his evaluation of this cooler also recommends another set. You can use the noctura as intake or exhaust fans somewhere else on your case
No matter what I try I can interduce per core offset voltage with AI OC - can someone please tell me what im doing wrong?
I have the Maximus hero ( capacitor installed correctly:)) and a 12900k.
I'm currently using XMP 1 with Trident Z 6000 mhz CL 40.
Can/Should I run XMP with the AI Over Clocking or should it be turned off?
Yeah he was just saying to enable them one at a time because if it’s unstable you won’t know which overclock is responsible. You’ll definitely want to run xmp
XMP is fine on. He was talking about overlocking your RAM further beyond XMP.
XMP on and then run stress tests. Then enable AIOC. If you want to try to tweak your RAM frequency higher than XMP settings you do it last.
Thanks Martin. I was wondering about the order as well
Please, can someone let me know what fans are used on the radiator?
I am planning to buy the new aio cooler from Asus for my i9 12900k and from what I noticed it doesn’t have rgb fans.
Stock fans are noctua ippc 2000 rpm. You can put rgb fans on it but there aren’t any rgb fans that compare specs wise to the noctua fans considering they are industrial grade server fans
I'm planning on substituting quality RGB fans in the cooler and using the noctura fans it comes with as intake fans
Any idea how to set adaptive voltage for particular core? Assuming my P-Core 5 is extremely hot, I would like to manually set adaptive voltage -0.01, where to find the setting? I know Intel Extreme Tuning can do it
You can modify per core voltage in the UEFI BIOS as part of the VF Curve, look under Extreme Tweaker. Do keep in mind some cores run hotter than others this is normal assuming your overall average is in line with expectations there may be no needed to manually offset/undervolt.
Hi JJ, I have an asus rog maximus extreme z690 , with 64 gb (16x4) ram corsair dominator platinum 5600 mhz C36. With 32 gb I can run without problems XMP 1 and 2, but with 4 modules Its imposible and I have to run to auto (default) speed (4800 mhz) or it dont POST
I know this is a known issue, and I have seen other tutorials increasing DRAM voltage to make it work but I dont want to risk my system, so there is Any Official tutorial from asus to solve this, or I have to wait some BIOS update, what can I do? Thanks in advance
There are a few points to clarify, this is not a known issue as it is an issue with our board or the UEFI BIOS. What is correct is that this type of DRAM configuration and divider is not supported by the IMC ( integrated memory controller ). The assumption the IMC can support working with mix kits is incorrect or running high MT 4 DIMM configurations.
This is why there is no manufacturer that produces high MT 4 DIMM kits. If you want to run a speed generally exceeding 4400MT then it must be in two DIMM configurations. Do keep in mind rank, density and IC play a part, and based on this you can see varying results/configurations. We are the leaders in DDR5 compatibility working with all key memory manufacturers as well as directly with IC producers to ensure an outstanding DRAM experience.
If you want to run 5600MT this needs to be in a 2 DIMM configuration. While newer UEFI releases have contained improvements from ASUS RD team as well as Intel to maximize DRAM interoperability, compatibility, and overclocking this will be most apparent in 2 DIMM configurations which include 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB kits.
If you have further questions join our PCDIY group and check out our DDR5 insights post. Best of luck with your build.
XMP only works correctly with 2 sticks of ram on any board afaik. It's how it's designed to work.
What AIO is this? I can't find it on the site.
RYUJIN II
Why everybodys says Extreme tweaker and Mine says AI TWEAKER?
Specifically how do I captain voltage at 1.35 maximum I do not want to set a static voltage I want it to go down when not needed but I only have a cap of 1.35 V
Voltage is already adaptive so you do not need to adjust as it will vary based on load also setting a cap of 1.35 will limit the scaling. Keep in mind your voltage is relative to the cores/frequency. If you want to force limit it use the cap option noted in the video or use the V/F curve but you will be limiting scaling by a considerable margin.
I have an Asus TUF z690 Wifi. Does not having AiOC mean I can never achieve 5.5ghz type numbers? Could you share a guide for us customers who are unable to have this feature but also want to be able to manually and efficiently get there?
TUF GAMING does not support AiOC which requires hardware and firmware, it is a more entry solution. That being noted the UEFI BIOS firmware and power delivery will ensure a stable and reliable OC experience but you will need to overclock the board manually. If you have more questions consider joining our PCDIY group.
I noticed you changed to enforce all limits. is this recommended when using aioc?
As noted in the video the enforce all limits is for testing pure stock compared to AiOC, when you using AiOC you purely complete your load testing with UEFI defaults which does not set the enforce all limits option.
This is purely communicated in the video to help users understand how to best create a pure "stock" operating baseline.
@@ASUSUSA thank you for clarifying. I took the advice. Everything stock. The only thing I dislike is my frequency drop while using aioc. So to avoid this I slowly turn up the optimism scale? If so do I stress test after uping the scale? To check stability? This is for gaming.
If I want to try this, you mention going in and doing an "F5" , which will essentially reset the UEFI BIOS settings. Since I have some tweaked settings already in place such as "Resizable Bar" enabled and other minors things, Do i just need to write those down and re-apply them after the AIOC enablement and testing? I currently have XMP-1 and "AI Optimized" settings in place for slight overclocking of the memory and CPU, I would guess it's those very features that need to be turned off with the "F5" reset of the BIOS so that AIOC can start at ground-zero with it's harvesting of the data from all points (AIO cooler, mobo, CPU). Kind of a system devices telemetry importation? Is that accurate?
That is correct, re enable other parameters after the fact.
With that note, the telemetry should already have been collected so you can also just move to enable AiOC.
@@ASUSUSA When I first overclocked my PC, I did it on my own by turning on the XMP I profile in the BIOS to get my RAM to 6000 (my ram is on the QVL for mobo), then i went into the Turbo settings and turned on "AI" in the E-Z setup of the bios. That's it, just those two quick things (2 setting changes). When my system rebooted it said 38% OVERCLOCK during the BIOS splash-screen reboot (ASUS). Everything ran just fine for 5 months. But then I got to watching videos of overclocking and did the "AiOC" Asus overclock after watching your videos. The BIOS splash screen said 68% OVERCLOCK and I thought everything was ok, but it wasn't because heat was spiking up even at idle i was 1.43v or higher and I even tuned the predictive value to 89. But I said "I'll run with it", then i turned my resizeable bar on (mistake).....system crashes in-game. So I turned that back off. Now I'd like to get back to that 38% OVERCLOCK splash screen but it won't take me back to that even if I go into BIOS and hit "F5" , reboot, then go into E-Z setup and set from "normal" to "AI Performance". It doesn't seem to want to take me back to that 38% Overclock message. I basically have to run at 68% Overclock or turn everything off. Ideas on how to return to the simple days of when I had it to the E-Z setting? It would put the CPU at around 5.2GHz for P-cores and run cooler and no crashes. Thx for any ideas.
i got the z690 master and im so sad the overclock on that board is not so good and the baord wont support ssd 5.0
Hi, I am getting power limit throttling while running cinebench r23. what setting should i change?
This is normal and you should not change it without understanding whether your load will cause this breach for most applications it will not as they will not use all cores or AVX.
If you do want to modify power limits though you can do so in Intel XTU or the UEFI.
more important though is to check your performance/frequency relative tot he applications you are utilizing and if also using AVX modify the offset ( which is already enabled by AiOC )
Why does aiOC turn off the XMP profile and turn it to auto? Does this mean I'm not getting the XMP timings even though the CPU is being overclocked?
We do not auto enable XMP as XMP is overclocking and stressing the CPU IMC alongside a CPU centric OC is not advised as you introduce two points of fault/failure. As such to ensure a better experience we leave it disabled and should you want to enable it you can. If you do not enable it and you memory has an XMP profile you are most likely not getting the rated speed/timings of your kit of memory.
How do I do this on a TUF board? It seems AiOC doesn't exist in there.
As noted in the video, TUF GAMING models do not support AiOC - You can manually overclock or use basic OC presets in the UEFI or via Intel XTU.
Thanks for being #TeamTUFgaming best of luck with your build, if you have more questions consider joining our PCDIY group.
@@ASUSUSA you're welcome! If the strix d4 came in black, I would have bought that one.
After doing this my core voltage at idle - while in the BIOS is 1.447 (seemingly ridiculously high). My computer shutdown and restarted last night. Any way to keep this voltage from spiking. You mentioned a way to set voltage limits but it was not something you spent any time on and I seem to have a different bios revision that you. Mine is 2103
You BIOS does not reflect idle/load states just a set value, as such it is not relevant you can correctly more voltage in the OS. If you want it to be more conservative then adjust the optimism slider as shown in the video.
Thanks for all the help JJ. I have had a blue-screen with the windows sad face and a count-down while in overclock-mode. I had the OPTIMISTIC setting at 85 (per your suggestion to adjust it down), so I decided to turn off overclocking and did the same thing in my game and no blue-screen or system restarts. I noticed at 85 optimistic setting that the CPU core speed was between 4900 and 5100 (fluctuating) and the Core Voltage was at 1.35 to 1.448. It would seem the trade-off isn't enough to keep trying because the clock-speeds are not enough to make it worth it. Is there something I'm doing wrong or is the ASUS AiOC programmed to require that much Voltage or is just not to the point where it can optimize the voltages low enough? I'll take this farther if you think there is something I'm missing or doing wrong. Again, thanks so much JJ !!!! (Asus Rog Strix "E" z690, ddr5, 12900K with lastest BIOS - 2103). Again, no issues with my system once I turn off ASUS AiOC.
As noted in your other post, voltage is going to need to go up and is normal when overclocking. Your CPU seems be subpar in it's OC margin so you may want to first fully stress test it at full stock and confirm it passes a stress test like OCCT. From there ensure you are not enabling AiOC and XMP at the same time without verifying your DRAM XMP stability independently. If you have more issues please join our PCDIY group.
I have armoury crate installed and can't launch Intel XTU, since XTU says that there is another tuning utility... how to fix it?
You have other issues as shown in the video their are interoperable/compatible. You may want to try uninstalling both ( independently ) reboot separately and then reinstall separately after rebooting after each uninstall.
@@ASUSUSA last question if possible. I have a z690 extreme with a 12900k and a light oc. System seems stable but sometimes when I reboot it hangs with black screen with error code: 0
What does it means?
please make a similar video for 13700k
Is there a way, to pin it that overclock profile that AI made? that it wont change lower perfomance?
If you do not want to have it potentially change ( which it wont ) unless your coolers performance drops as noted in the video you can select stop training. If you have more questions join our PCDIY group.
@@ASUSUSA Where are the training controls in bios ver. 2103? I see almost nothing described from this video in that bios
Hey JJ - love your videos, thank you. No idea if you or anyone who knows may see this, just bought/built i9-12900k Asus Rog Strix Z690-E Gaming -- everything has been great so far, I set Asus AI Overclocking per your guide above... however, my voltage and temps during Cinebench can get high (according to all the comments I read here or on other OC sites) -- over 1.4-1.45volts and temps hit 90 at their worst (I'm using NZXT Z73 Kraken AIO 360mm). My issue/question -- I can't figure out an EASY way to reduce voltage in BIOS. It's so confusing and complicated to me. Any suggestions? Is it okay if I just leave it be (with Asus AI OC on and let it do its thing) or should I be worried that voltage can be as high as 1.45-1.5 on extreme benchmarking?
Same issue here, My temps will peg to tjmax after extended tests and eventually bsod from just turning on AIOC. same cooler and basically the same board (just the F version (both the mobo F and processor KF) which should make 0 diferance)
Same here lol it’s a joke, you HAVE to set your own by core overclock and adaptive voltage, dude acts like it’s “that simple” . I have a 360mm radiator and a custom loop on my cpu, and a water cooled 3080ti, 9 fans and a custom mounted 80mm exhaust fan on my lian li O11 dynamic, instant 1.45+ voltage, thermal throttling, etc..
After setting by core and adaptive voltages I used a LOWER LOAD LINE CALIBRATION, LOWER VOLTAGES, ENDED WITH HIGHER FREQUENCIES AND MANAGED TO HIT 877 single core and 11901 on multi core CPUz benchmark.. with this “AIOC” I got 10553 and 788 because of insane temps and thermal throttling!
Sp score 90 (96P 83 E)
Be nice if they’d reply why this happens and doesn’t adjust!
I’ll be nice and help y’all, turn on XMP1, auto let’s bios optimize, turn on OCTVB and enable first two then set 3rd option to +1 (+2 can be used but lower the negative offset in voltage), turn on your c states by going to advanced tab, then cpu power management control, c states to enabled, enabled, and c8, exit that, go to bottom where voltages are, enable BCLK aware adaptive voltage, global core acid to adaptive, negative sign .020 offset, leave turbo auto, svid voltage adaptive leave all auto, but negative sign, cache adaptive and leave plus sign, go to vfcurve 6 and apply .010 negative offset, vf core 11 apply .015 positive offset and if you bsod raise this, and also raise the offset we changed in core voltage.. exit and run it! If temps are solid and you wanna lower them more increase offset, set LLC to 3 also.. if you wanna get more performance switch to +2 OCTVB, if you want more then you’re going to have to go in detail on a by core overclock, but I bet you leaving it STOCK AND P/E cores on AUTO with OCTVB and ADAPTIVE BOOST ON. You’ll smoke your “AI OC” this guy explained because the voltages are insane and we BSOD immediately of temps get to 100c in cinebench instantly! Even after setting an offset and if you regulate temperature the performance hit is worse than stock everything
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Always impressed by ASUS motherboards, adaptive overclocking is brilliant.
but my core voltage shot up and was 1.449 and higher , any idea how?
Hey mate nice video. I have a quick question, i have ASUS rog z690 formular also have 4 sticks of Dominator ddr5 ram 5600mhz and iv been told that the new boards don’t like 4 sticks when xmp is enabled? Some say it’s fine some say it’s unstable? Are you able to shed some light at all? Thanks heaps
There are no issues with 4 DIMM XMP, it is that 4 DIMMs places a different load/requirement on the IMC and 4 DIMM configurations just like in prior DDR4 do not support operating at the same frequencies. There are more complicated aspects to this including rank, density and IC type but overall, you cannot expect to run a XMP profile designed for 2 DIMMs on a mixed 4 DIMM kit and furthermore the frequency support will differ. Generally, 2 DIMMS assuming they are rated for high speeds can generally reach/support 6000MHz, but 4 DIMM is going to be lower around 4000-4400MHz+
@@ASUSUSA no worries thanks for the reply. Will a bios update in the future end up fixing this so we can run the full speed with 4 Dimms in operation? Thanks mate keep up the great videos 👌
@ Asus. Thanks for that explanation, a lot of people are wondering about that. The conclusion seems to be by the highest Ram you can at 2 sticks and run it at full speed since you are never going to use Beyond 32 gigabytes for anything anyway
how did you get the rocketship on the polymo lighting bruh lol
This is not Polymi display it is the AniMe Matrix display on the EXTREME which is different than the Polymo display on other ROG boards.
hello again, great video. After doing the AiOC procedure and up to new bios and all other firmware updates. My CPU Core Voltage is camping around 1.439 and I notice My Package 1 temps crank up really fast and hard even when just gaming as opposed to stress or benchmarking. (12900K). Seems like my performance is affected by the high voltage but no unstable CTD's or anything like that, did all the stress testing and benchmarking before and after (after stress testing up to 80~C.) Using a Corsair Capellix Ultra 360mm AIO , lots ot case fans too. But worried that my temps are high. Does 1.439v seem like a high number at idle ? (no applications open). CPU Clock is showing 5200 in ROG CPU-Z, and in AI Suite 3 , the CPU Clock is just hovering around that same number , generally 5.176 to 5.200.
If you have your power profiles set to normal then the voltage and frequency will drop when your system is idle or under light loads. There is no static VID used with ASUS AiOC.
Temperatures can peak and also be hotter on some cores than others, that is normal. The important value to check is relative AVG over a period of time.
If you prefer to reduce performance, then use a target temp value but this will lower your OC scaling.
How do you optimize cooling without over clocking
Your question does not make sense, can you clarify? Overclocking by it's nature will not optimize cooling but put more demands on your cooling solution due to an increase in cooling requirements due to high temperatures.
If you want an easy way to calibrate and tune your fan(s) you can use our Fan Xpert fan calibration and profiling feature as well as AiCooling. These can be accessed in the UEFI BIOS or via the Armoury Crate or AiSuite III system utility.
@@ASUSUSA The second part of your reply sufficiently answers my question. I appreciate the response.
When rendering using davinci resolve, my new pc is using %100 CPU, is at 90°c. This is with a I7 12700kf, rog strix z690 gaming f mobo, 32gb ddr5 ram and just a twin fan deep cool cooler (cheap cooler I know).
Would it risk raising the temp above 90°c with Ai overclocking enabled, when rendering using this software, or would the Ai overclock adjust for that task and revert the overclock back to its usual parameters for other applications such as gaming?
I paid a fortune for my new pc to have these features, I should start utilising them. I'm not sure my case would fit a 3 fan cooler, but it would fit a better twin fan cooler if you think it would help, down the track when funds permit. Currently, I'll have to make with do with the deep cool twin fan set up that I've got.
Your informed opinion would be much appreciated! P.s I've uninstalled armoury crate, can I Ai overclock without this app, just using the ai function and the Intel firmware that's free to download?
Sorry for all the questions, just still learning this stuff. I stopped gaming when quake 2 and diablo was out, it's been a long time between drinks but it's great to be back! 🤣👌
AiOC is based on your coolers measured performance meaning the peak OC will be limited based on the coolers performance. The better the cooler the higher the OC will be implemented. In your situation, with a less performant cooler you can keep AiOC but the all core OC as well as per core OC will be less than if you had a higher performing cooler.
If you find yourself consistently rendering then consider if possible a cooler like our TUF GAMING 240mm AIO solution.
AiOC as shown in the video can be enabled via the UEFI BIOS and is firmware based. It does not require software to run.
Feel free to join our ASUS PCDIY group linked in the description. Best of luck with your build.
Hey I got this mobo but my system takes really really long time to boot. Where could I get help to solve this issue please?
Got a i9 12900KS, asus Rog Strix LC 3090 ti, 64 DDR5 corsair dominator, ROG RYUJIN II 360, Thor 850 W.
Is there any easy way to fix or any option in the Bios that I might be missing?
Thanks in advantage.
Lengthy BOOT is normal for high end system that are overclocked, have more memory and many internal and external devices. You can at times help by updating your UEFI but this is a really of more complex configurations. Consider sharing your build in our PCDIY group. Best of luck with the build.
Will the z690e run the new 13700k?
Yes, you just need to update the UEFI BIOS. Thanks for being #TeamROG and #TeamSTRIX
Thanks for the info! I'll be trying this when the new system is built. Asus Strix DDR4, i7 12700k, TUF 3080Ti. Happy Holidays!
How’s the new system treating you, I also just purchased a similar set up
@@krontexpit Hey! Thanks for asking. Hope your build is coming along. Mine is still sitting in boxes in the corner. Injured my right shoulder, so it's going to be awhile before I build. I returned the Asus TUF 3080Ti because I found an EVGA 3080ti (yes, I paid too much, but worth it to have EVGA customer service). At least I can use the new 34" LG Gsync ultra wide monitor. Best to all.
@@GySgt_USMC_Ret. That sounds epic, I hope you get better soon so you can enjoy the process of putting it together. This was my first PC build ever and I had a blast. Luckily I had no major problems besides not plugging in some connectors all the way!
I also went with EVGA, but a 3060. I’m not much of a PC gamer so I figured going higher than that isn’t worth it for me.
Wish you the best!
When using AiOC, should I ignore any XMP profiles, or is it suggested that this be changed from defaults (i.e. to leverage DDR5 6000Mhz)?
Ai oc dont do anything for your memory. Just enable xmp.
@@waskus there was another guy above saying that running aioc caused their xmp profiles to disable so they enabled them again and had stability issues. That being said how would one sort that?
@@housebaelishgaming I have no stability problems with AiOC and XMP. I got a 12700k, asus z670 D4, 2x8gb 4400mhz ddr4 ram. After enabling AiOC it will reboot and if it has reset bios to enable AiOC, just enable XMP again.
@@waskus copy that and have you seen improvement?
Everytime I turn on AIOC I always get a blue screen error. :( Any idea why? I have i9 12900k, DDR5 6000Mhz Ram, Asus Apex Z690
Make sure you UEFI is up to date, enabling AiOC should not produce a stop error immediately as it requires a reboot to apply as such this would indicate you have other issues.
You may want to reinstall your OS, if you have more problems consider joining our PCDIY group.
Hey JJ, ASUS NA Team, awesome video, I think I have watched 3 or 4 of the various versions or live streams you did JJ, very good content. I am late to the party as I like to let new hardware bios and ram versions settle before I buy as I normally like to OC, but I will definitely be taking advantage of AIOC this time. now to my Question... you mentioned F5 load factory defaults and set disable on the factory Intel setting ( which forces use of standards) turn on AIOC after doing your baselines etc.. After you do the baselines, with and with out XMP, then with and without AIOC then finally together with XMP.. do you turn the Intel standards back to controlled by the Bios?
No, when overclocking you would leave this value on auto. Force Intel defaults is only applicable for users who do not want to OC and want to run their system within the constraint of pure stock operating parameters.
@@ASUSUSA Thank you, exactly what I thought.. Loving my Hero board BTW!!!
What motherboard is in this video? Is that the hero or extreme?
The feature being shown applies to all ASUS Z690 motherboards that feature ASUS AiOC and is not dependent on the motherboard.
@@ASUSUSA thanks, just purchased z690e motherboard and have an artic 360 cooler I haven’t opened for 7 months. Apparently I need some sort of adapter for the cooler?
After the latest BIOS update for my Z790 maximus hero, AI OC from Asus is crashing certain apps and giving crashes for my i9-13k cpu sadly. It used to work just fine before the update, I hope Asus takes a look and eventually fixes this.
Half the options described here are gone for me in bios ver 2103
I was having issues and downloaded the 1501 bios version and as of right now my AI OC is working well. XMPII, Corsair ddr5 dominator 6000, 13900k, 3080TiFE. One day the AI OC was causing massive bsod's which I found out after trying so many things. Seems to be working fine now. Not going to 1801 bios version if this one is working. Read someone was having issues with the 1801 bios version and rolled back to 1501 bios version as well.
Thank you very much, you were very helpful! with thermal velocity boost and aioc İ am enjoying using 12900k at 5600ghz with rog extreme board and rog ryujin 2 cooler. :) next on my list manually oc'ing corsair dominator 64gb (32*2) ddr5 ram :)
Great to hear! Thanks for being #TeamROG and #TeamMAXIMUS best of luck with the build and #MoreMHz #AiOC
Hi JJ. Got a new z690 12900k with 32gb Corsair vengeance 5200mhz. Can get up to 4400 mhz but no higher. Any tips??
Join our PCDIY group, not sure what your question is, if you have an XMP kit ensure you have updated the UEFI and then load the XMP profile. Keep in mind if you are running duplicated/mix kits you will not achieve the DRAM scaling of only two DIMM kits.
@@ASUSUSA TY for the response -- the question was regarding RAM overclocking. Was just wondering if there was any tips you had with regards to getting at least the factory spec'd 5200Mhz for the RAM -- at the moment, the highest I can get is 4400. Have tried increasing voltage to no avail. 16x2's Corsair vengeance 5200 mhz with the asus ROG Z690 Mobo... TY! Will join group, as well.
@@apex_chris ever figure it out?! I have a 6000mhz kit stuck at 4400
@@housebaelishgaming Hey there.. well yeah biggest mistake I made was to seat the ram incorrectly -- have to occupy slots 2 and 4 -- not 1 and 3... Try that... Once I did that it OC'd easy.. got it at 5400 mhz now
I honestly used to fear overclocking because I just didn't want to risk overheating the cpu
That is the great thing with ASUS AiOC, you can just enable it and not worry about the rest. If very concerned about temps you can always set a target temperature but in most cases this is not needed.
i have a question why am I running a 13900kf with the same ryuijin 3 360 aio is what i got and you have like 175 rating on cooler and I have 144 and i most def can never use ai optimize i let it do that and I'll never boot unless I turn it offalso even running it stock no overclock any stress test i do crashes within a minute or so running a strix 4090 oc, 32gb corsair ddr5 5200 z790 hero , thor 1200 watts samsung pro4tb 990 m.213900kf, 7 QL 140 mm fans aio ryuijin 3 360 helios case not even close to a year old and bought all brand new drivers all up to date sfc checked ouyt good DISM all comb back good pretty bad when I buy top of ther line and my 159600k z390 ddr4 strix 2080 super had way less problems and could complete stress tests and games that worked on a 2080 super constantly crashes or won't even load old system happy newer 5k more spent miserable for almost a year with 10's of hoursa trying to figure it out and still no fun
You should contact service and support and request help debugging your issue. Just engaging AiOC should not cause immediate BOOT issues. You may have a faulty component or installed something incorrectly.
I would advise you to load F5 defaults, reinstall your OS, and then perform a system stress test either with Aida64 that comes included with your board or via a utility like OCCT. You should be able to pass CPU, DRAM, Graphics, and PSU without issue at F5 default. If it fails, it would indicate a hardware issue.
You can also run a memory test within the UEFI independent of the OS as a quick check. This is good to first verify your issue is not DRAM related. Keep in mind DRAM failure can also be tied to pin pad issues and dirty contacts.
Ensure your testing is first performed at F5 defaults to confirm it is not OC-related.
What I would like to see is when it comes to over clocking that the entire system makes the changes it needs to make when you make choice to over clock your cpu.. and when it comes to overclocking a cpu.. I would like to see the settings for it this way.. either automatic and or manual, and then on automatic, it would make changes to both the cpu and the ram given the amount of how much you want to increase the overclocking of the cpu.. and with the settings of Underclock with settings of 100 every time you want to go low.. example if you have a cpu at 3500, when you want to underclock the cpu, it would show 3400, 3300 3200 ect.. going down.. and if you wanted to overclock the cpu.. from 3500 also increasing by 100 for each one... so if I want to lightly over clock, I can pick say 4000 or I can pick 4500 or 5000.. which ever I want.. and when I pick say 4000, then the Memory would also change with that increase which would best suit that over clock at 4000.. or if I wanted to increase the overclock to 4500.. then when I set the overclock to 4500, the memory would automatically set to a setting which is best suited for the cpu at 4500.. so you set the CPU to a certain overclock and the system knows whats best for other settings of the Memory as well.. so if you want to either underclock or over clock your CPU, you would do so automatically in increments of 100.. and it would be nice to have it so your system would remember some of the settings you want to save.. so with one button, it would run a medium over clock or an aggressive overclock.. and of coarse, you always have the option of manually setting any and all settings in overclocking.. but the idea here is, to make it easy for those who are novices and they can simply over clock in increments of 100.. and JJ, not sure about the newer Intel CPU's with P Cores and E Cores, if you can just overclock the P cores and not touch the E cores.. how does that work JJ?
I wish it worked but Nope… I’m running the asus rog strix with a 12900k and every benchmark I’ve done with a manual per core OC beats the AIOC by a large margin. 27180 on a manual OC with cinebench r23 vs 24622 on multicore. AIOC runs 5.5 when the computer is idling (really useful) and as soon as you put any load on such as games or benchmarks it drops massively reducing any potential benefit. AIOC crashed my system 4 out 5 times I’ve run it. Not being able to use XMP with AIOC makes no sense. It needs a little more work to beat a true manual OC with a stable 5.2 IMO.
AiOC is a manual based OC and with a manual all core OC you are not leveraging the benefits of per core increments/efficiency. The values you have while valid also are as always variable. The benefit of AiOC is the scaling is specific to your CPU and cooling solution and adaptively adjustments based on cooling performance.
The value you also note is 5.5 possibly for one or two threads or one core. You need to detail the whole per core range which on average will be between 200 to 500MHz over the default Intel multiplier range.
You can also easily modify the profile once defined increasing it, lower it, targeting a voltage or a temp value if you would like. While your sample is valid we test hundreds of CPU samples to arrive at the adaptive voltage targets and per core OC targets utilized in AiOC. Regardless you have both options available to you manual or AiOC or even a mixture of both should you use AiOC as your "base" and then customize.
Just something to say to asus remember the slider tablet from 2011 or 2012? For a new suggestion form a new product (not really). I thought people would like a tablet featuring usb, micro sd and a sliding keyboard! I hope this could be the next big thing
I have probably the worst i9 10900k the ai oc puts 1.5 volts and still doesnt go past 5ghz
I've got 5.5x2, 5.4x3, and 5.3x3 on my 12900K. Everything looks good. Though when it's idle I notice 1 or 2 cores dropping to 800MHz, is that normal? Under load it seems fine. Thermal package limit set to 90C. In R23 it drops to 5.1GHz which is perfect. Temps never really break 85C. Everything is performing really well. Just the 800MHz that's throwing me off. May be totally fine.
It’s totally normal. The reason for these cores dropping to 800Mhz is because Windows’ power management.
That's c-states and/or intel speed step in action, normal behaviour with these settings turned on.
have latency ?
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@@ASUSUSA I know a lot about overclocking And the most important thing for the game was the smoothness of the game and the delay in memory. Not cpu clock up down
I have done a OC in other way, so 5ghz on all P-cores and 4.1ghz at all E-cores with a undervolting ( - offset) and the system is pretty much stable, 80 degrees celsius at max in Cinebench R20... This is more as enough for me and i have the Asus z690 prime-a, i just love those mainboard ❤️
@FLNT what a mainboard do you have and what type of thermal paste you use?
i have 12900k asus formula and ddr5 32gb 6400 ram when try this my all games r crashing i mean bluescreen
Did everything and still dont have stability.
When I use AI OC it sets insanely high CPU voltage, like up to 1.6V at at times! Which makes me feel really uncomfortable, it's one thing for some guy from ASUS to tell you to do this, but at the end of the day ASUS aren't going to be liable for my CPU when it lets go the magic smoke.
Have you updated your BIOS. And what are the temps when its running at that voltage? Might be misreporting the voltage? If its an issue the CPU will throttle and then shut down. Or you could go into AIOC and use the feature there to limit voltage.
As noted in the guide you can define a voltage cap. 1.6 would generally only be applied in limited scenarios with very good cooling. If you want to reduce just set the cap, or reduce the slider.
Also keep in mind you can measure the voltage which is only a peak voltage to a low number of cores and not a sustained voltage ( difference between adaptive or static voltages ).
Where is xmp 3.0 support ?
All ASUS Z690 motherboards support XMP profiles including XMP 3.0, we will have a dedicated video on this topic later. Stay tuned.
@@ASUSUSA I will sub the channel, thanks
Yes until you make a HUGE DDR5 purchase of 6400mhz RAM and it reads it as 2400mhz and will not go any faster
THIS NEEDS FIXED
stock i5-12600, corsair icue h100i cooler w/ stock thermal paste...65 celsius with 100% cpu on cinebench, low 30's at idle
THANK YOU! 🙂
You're welcome!
i always thought that overclocking was something fancy and risky - not for everyone.
I guess I was wrong
Glad you found it interesting, useful and illuminating.
Asus AI OC makes my PC BSOD unfortunately. rog strix 690-f gaming wifi with 12900kf (3x120 fan AIO rad - already repasted once in case)
Ensure you have updated the UEFI, if you continue to have issues as noted in the video you can modify the slider within AiOC features to make the OC more conservative.
@@ASUSUSA I think I know what it was. It was my cooler score not being set to static. When idle for long periods of time my cooler score goes upto between 175-178, and when under heavy load, eventually will go as low as 157 (after +30 mins of cinibench or a long gaming session).
What it was doing was gradually increasing the OC the longer I idled for as the cooler scores got better and better, till the point it was pushing 5.6-5.7GHz 3 core (breifly) and 5.3-5.4GHz all core under load (or at least it tried till it instantly thermal throttled and/or BSOD)!
If I suddenly loaded it after it being idled for a long time, it just couldn't handle it as the clocks would be for a much more effeciant cooler than how mine actually reacts under load, crashing the system as they were just unstable. After long gaming sessions my cooler score would go down, as would the clocks, and without thermal throttling being involved.
I just set it to do not continue updating cooler after resetting it's learning and ran cinibench for 30 mins again, but this time fixed the cooler score to not update so the cooler score wouldn't keep kreeping up at idle when temps were really low pushing my clocks into unstable territory when under load.
I always have latwst bios/drivers. Am on 1505 and have been since close to when it came out. Thanks for the reply though.