yes I also wonder why people keep testing it as if it’s a new engine 🤦🏽♂️. But I also agree in the hilux it’s acceptable but in the Prado that car feels underpowered and the fact that the all new Prado will come out with the same engine with no power upgrade is a bit disappointing.. you can imagine the new Prado coming in even with a detuned v6 from the 300series pushing 250+ hp that will be a treat
I had the chance of driving the 2.8 the other day, good setup, feels like a Hilux. Would I replace my current VDJ79? No. The tuned V8 with manual gear box is fun, pulls way harder than the factory 2.8 that I drove and if I wanted an auto I’d buy a 300 series. Will this appeal to your average new 70 series buyer, definitely. Does it fix the high percentage of commercial need for staff with auto only licences, absolutely. The 2.8 auto is a great addition to the 70 series line up.
I've just ordered the 2.8L, having had the V8 (2021). I never modded my Troopy's engine mainly as I couldn't bear replacing the clutch in a brand new vehicle and throwing away my warranty with an ECU upgrade. Maybe a modded V8 is better, but stock for stock, that 2.8L kills the V8. If it only lasts 300,000Kms instead 500,000Kms, well thats 15 years of motoring and by then I'll probably be dead anyway. Or I'll have bought a new car after ~150,000Kms. Either way I reckon it'll last long enough!
You can remap the 2.8 I’ve seen TH-camrs like Matt Dubber in south Africa has his hilux remapped and its pushing 240+ hp. the tuning ecu software and hardware allows him to select whether he wants to drive in full remap mode or just normal performance. It’s quite cool
@@LyfovRyan51 Yep - it's super annoying that they don't fix the rear track issue. But not much else has the GVM capacity of a 79, so what else do you buy? The only other options I could find were 'small' trucks, like the Hino 300 or Fuso Canter or the little 4x4 ISUZU truck.
Ive had 3 LC200 V8s and love them and had no issues. Im 70 and love the bigger engine over the 2.8 and Im wondering how much better is the twin turbo engine performance compared to 2.8.Having said that and its not a true comparison I would not dismiss the new 79 with the 2.8. Toyota are generally ahead of the curve
It is hard to have a reasonable discussion with those, especially older people with loud shrill voices who are in denial and think that something is being "taken away from them". The world moves on; some good, some bad. The landcruiser started off with small engines and did everything asked. The new iteration will do the same. Those wedded to the past will remain so and there is nothing one can do to change their mindset
Mmm, some reluctant improvements from Toyota but still a vehicle from the past, which some might like. Towing 3500kg regularly, I simply won't go past 240kw and 8 speeds and max of 14l/100klms, so I'll stick with my current 11 yo vehicle. A 6 speed old school auto...wow! Hope they've made them stronger.
I'll spell it out for you. The way you had it set up means you have lightened the front axle heaps and overloaded the rear axle. Makes it an unstable combination.
Lots of people are sold on Haval etc. purely based on features and looks. That’s fine for driving to the shops. What is invaluable is the fact that mechanics all over the world know Toyota inside out, spare parts will still be available even after armageddon and as the old slogan said “Everything keeps going right” Just remember, your climate control and courtesy lights are comfy, but my chassis is strong. If you find Toyota overpriced and boring, you’re shopping in the wrong aisle.
I'm not sure how popular it will be on the land. But mining oil and gas will snap it up as so many can not drive a manual now. A six speed auto behind the v8 would make that a better car again.
@@Drivecomau Hi Sam as a diesel fitter if it uses engine water instead of a second radiator it will not be effective Untested to know if it is unreliable
Do you lot have rocks in your head? Towing that load with that vehicle is downright dangerous. 2.8 tonne van has a 10% towball down-load of 280kg. 244kg tray 850kg in the tray. Thats 1374kg. 50kg overloaded and havent accounted for the 100kg driver.
I just watched the video and thought the same thing: 850kg in the tray 75kg driver 280kg towball weight 1205kg total That’s well over the 1,081kg payload limit. No wonder the arse of the 70 series was so low the front so high. Silly review Drive!!!
The 2.8 has already proved itself in the prado and hilux, don't know why people are carrying on like it's a new motor.
maybe different mapping?
It’s a underperforming motor.
yes I also wonder why people keep testing it as if it’s a new engine 🤦🏽♂️. But I also agree in the hilux it’s acceptable but in the Prado that car feels underpowered and the fact that the all new Prado will come out with the same engine with no power upgrade is a bit disappointing.. you can imagine the new Prado coming in even with a detuned v6 from the 300series pushing 250+ hp that will be a treat
@@reubs91 you talking about the old v8?
Yes, but the Ford V6 (as used in Discovery before) engine for example is better than a 4 cylinder in a high end vehicle like a Prado or 70 series
I had the chance of driving the 2.8 the other day, good setup, feels like a Hilux. Would I replace my current VDJ79? No. The tuned V8 with manual gear box is fun, pulls way harder than the factory 2.8 that I drove and if I wanted an auto I’d buy a 300 series. Will this appeal to your average new 70 series buyer, definitely. Does it fix the high percentage of commercial need for staff with auto only licences, absolutely. The 2.8 auto is a great addition to the 70 series line up.
I've just ordered the 2.8L, having had the V8 (2021). I never modded my Troopy's engine mainly as I couldn't bear replacing the clutch in a brand new vehicle and throwing away my warranty with an ECU upgrade. Maybe a modded V8 is better, but stock for stock, that 2.8L kills the V8. If it only lasts 300,000Kms instead 500,000Kms, well thats 15 years of motoring and by then I'll probably be dead anyway. Or I'll have bought a new car after ~150,000Kms. Either way I reckon it'll last long enough!
true but you can still remapping the V8 not the 2.8L
You can remap the 2.8 I’ve seen TH-camrs like Matt Dubber in south Africa has his hilux remapped and its pushing 240+ hp. the tuning ecu software and hardware allows him to select whether he wants to drive in full remap mode or just normal performance. It’s quite cool
The narrow rear axle and wing mirrors are the main reason I didn't by another 79.
@@nmvi226240hp/600Nm for what?
@@LyfovRyan51 Yep - it's super annoying that they don't fix the rear track issue. But not much else has the GVM capacity of a 79, so what else do you buy? The only other options I could find were 'small' trucks, like the Hino 300 or Fuso Canter or the little 4x4 ISUZU truck.
Ive had 3 LC200 V8s and love them and had no issues. Im 70 and love the bigger engine over the 2.8 and Im wondering how much better is the twin turbo engine performance compared to 2.8.Having said that and its not a true comparison I would not dismiss the new 79 with the 2.8.
Toyota are generally ahead of the curve
Not with the short wheelbase and the overhang at the back...and a loaded pallet in the tray ??? your asking for trouble !!!
It is hard to have a reasonable discussion with those, especially older people with loud shrill voices who are in denial and think that something is being "taken away from them". The world moves on; some good, some bad. The landcruiser started off with small engines and did everything asked. The new iteration will do the same. Those wedded to the past will remain so and there is nothing one can do to change their mindset
So if small engine was fine why did they go up to v8
Smaller engines have to work harder, a backward step for many.
maybe not but for sure you can't modify it at all
Two cup holders, car of the year?
It's a lot safer to have both hands on the steering wheel when driving
My question is if you have the previous gen can you facelift it to the current one?
What's the rear axle max? That looked very suspect.
They have overloaded it by at least 200kg.
Some people here are harping on about if it will last as long as the V8, pfff hahah of course it will the V8 is shit house!
When it comes to towing you are putting additional stress on the transmission be it a V8 or 2.8
Mmm, some reluctant improvements from Toyota but still a vehicle from the past, which some might like. Towing 3500kg regularly, I simply won't go past 240kw and 8 speeds and max of 14l/100klms, so I'll stick with my current 11 yo vehicle. A 6 speed old school auto...wow! Hope they've made them stronger.
All your towball weight and payload was behind the rear axle - a recipe for disaster.
I'm yet to see a towball in front of the rear wheels - Sam
I'll spell it out for you. The way you had it set up means you have lightened the front axle heaps and overloaded the rear axle. Makes it an unstable combination.
😅😅😅@@Drivecomau
Lots of people are sold on Haval etc. purely based on features and looks. That’s fine for driving to the shops. What is invaluable is the fact that mechanics all over the world know Toyota inside out, spare parts will still be available even after armageddon and as the old slogan said “Everything keeps going right” Just remember, your climate control and courtesy lights are comfy, but my chassis is strong. If you find Toyota overpriced and boring, you’re shopping in the wrong aisle.
I'm not sure how popular it will be on the land. But mining oil and gas will snap it up as so many can not drive a manual now. A six speed auto behind the v8 would make that a better car again.
Unfortunately they won’t make the V8 auto it only comes in manual transmission
how much fuel per 100kms? l fast forwarded to the summary but only heard garbage
a mate has the 4 door V8 ute, brand new, gets 550kms from a 100K tank
Unsafe towing with a van on the back. Suspension looks under stress.
Is that intercooler çooled with engine water if so that's a fail
Yes, it's a new water-to-air intercooler design. Do you think it's unreliable? -Sam
@@Drivecomau
Hi Sam as a diesel fitter if it uses engine water instead of a second radiator it will not be effective
Untested to know if it is unreliable
What I wonder is if that 4 cylinder will last as many km as the V8. I hope so! But…
OEM V8? probably not but I am just guessing
Wow, way to not understand about towing weights. GCM is not the deciding factor pretty much ever.
I completely disagree. GCM is misunderstood and very important. - Sam
@@Drivecomau yet you overloaded the vehicle's GVM...
476,000ks on my 89 hilux so you know which motor i prefer.
Yeah but how much hard work has it done or is it weekend people mover
You would have to be stark raving made to buy a Landcruiser, especially the 2.8. Extremely overpriced junk.
Do you lot have rocks in your head? Towing that load with that vehicle is downright dangerous.
2.8 tonne van has a 10% towball down-load of 280kg.
244kg tray
850kg in the tray.
Thats 1374kg. 50kg overloaded and havent accounted for the 100kg driver.
nose up, ready for take off.
@@nicknick7052you can even tell with the rake that it is overloaded on the rear axle. Idiotic.
@@user-vk4vd7vr5t waa waa
I just watched the video and thought the same thing:
850kg in the tray
75kg driver
280kg towball weight
1205kg total
That’s well over the 1,081kg payload limit.
No wonder the arse of the 70 series was so low the front so high.
Silly review Drive!!!
How much weight was transferred from the front axle to the rear axle , should of weighed it
This thing is chugging old..
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