Erika & roger are so magical. I love how he just said viki as she was about to enter vic srs room & she looked back at him & smiled. These 2 were at a level they didnt have to speak. That was an obvious mutual i love u & only us can understand. Only viki above " all others " he trusted & she loved him more than a baby brother but a favorite son/child.
Victor: Irene? Todd: Yeah, Yeah....Irene....you remember Irene, she was my mother and she loved me. (anyone else laugh at this part--considering it was revealed that Irene orchestrated Todd's imprisonment.)
The character of Victor Lord was not a monster or a child molester in the early years of One Life. In fact Erika Slezak said in an interview that the actor who played Victor back then is probably turning in his grave over how the show rewrote Victor's character.
@@hapgood22yes she said the character was so warm loving only cracked a joke once a year was very moral & serious. Rauch started the victor slide badly. I get it andrea evans was a kid then returned in her mid 20s more mature & finally the ingenue oltl was desperately searching for. She needed a greater attachment to the powerhouse family & the two leads victors daughter & widow obviously viki & Dorian. They made victor pervy but not evil as rauch kept doing. First to make victor a young womans dad. Viki & irene were only 18. This was creepy w/ the secret room seducing vikis teen but legal roomate & explained her d.i.d. then they pushed her d.i.d back to 17 when victor kidnapped her first born built an underground city esp to protect nazi gold ! So niki was now created to deal w/ roger dying. At least we got megan. Viki still worshipped him after these 2 horrible stories finally micheal malone gead writer of a gang rape to redeem marty ( creepy if u think about it ) & turn a potential young supercouple & ruin a powerhouse young actor in rh from frat boy who was immature & clumsy to like that a leader of a gang rape. For 2 years it was rape rape rape. Esp the serial rapist story. So of course malone went way over the top having victor a beloved original character into a serial incestous child molestor. They even capped it off w/ dorian telling viki she found tons of kiddoe porn videos & pics esp of viki in the secret room. None of this fits. Dorian just forgot all of this figured viki knew ??? Plus watching clips from 85 dorian was shocked about the secret room. Tina & mitch somehow found it. Malone is also responsible for this hideous story victor & mitch alive ! Mitch raped viki & potentially got her pregnant which is crazy b/c i was able to watch viki drink mitchs laced ice t & she was full term w/ one baby already. Malones retyrn was why rh left for 8 years. Malone had a sick fetish for these sick stories. Thankfully they had dorian at least throw a line out that mitch probably hired an imposter. In one of dorians last scenes she muttered to david " viki chooses to believe " when he said " u were almost sent to death row for a crime u didnt commit " now if thos was victor why would dorian say that. It was a sly admission that basically again this was not victor & kept the who killed 1970s real victor was it dorian? Irene ? Maybe vikis alter & dorian may have finished him off where tori lef5 him. Malone also wrote the stupid walker is todd ( should have left him walker as rh 's todd was irreplaceable & plastic surgery stories are horrible then straight recast ) they had fake todd possibly rape blair ( as if ) only to gave sh return to testify for fake todd then for the sad end cop out blair had like a tumour & didnt remember. Wow. Todd never ever ever would rape anyone esp blair. The writers i get need new material but the show went off the rails in the early 2000s. I wont touch tess jess bess wes or natalie of john mcbain forced as the non supercouple. Why did they even have to kill off victor sr since they milked the man after death for new kids a grandkid a city chuld abuse etc. Maybe it was worth it to create the greatest rivals in viki & dorian
Ridiculous storyline! If they were going to go through the trouble to rewrite history and bring Victor Sr. back from the dead, they should've kept him on the show a lot longer to be interwoven deeply in the show and wreak havoc on Llanview. And this actor they hired looks like he's only in his 60s instead of his late 80s!
“Hell doesn’t want you either?” I wish I could have said that to my mother’s father if I ever encountered him alive again or as a ghost. In the pit he resides, he knows he is hated by us.
I so wish they would bring some OLTL characters to GH. I would love for Todd to use the Sun to expose what a hypocritical narcissist Sonny is (hate how he is treated like a hero). Bo would give the PCPD a compodent cop, and though this will never happen but I would love to see Luke go drinking with Nikki Smith.
I doubt we’ll ever see that happen. The last of the OLTL actors who came over in 2012 has now left GH even though their OLTL characters left a more than a decade ago
I always had a feeling they would have revealed Hope’s daughter and Cole were still alive if the Prospect Park lawsuit hadn’t gotten in the way and forced GH to ditch all of the OLTL characters. I mean these were the same writers who worked on OLTL and had been setting something up involving Allison Perkins (which was never properly paid off even when Prospect Park did finally get their version of OLTL together)
@cataz2626 Do you have the scenes where Viki confronts Victor? If you do could you please post them? Thank you for what you have posted so far. It is very much appreciated.
Victor still haunts Todd more than Irene does. 4:44 the name has already been taken, courtesy of Irene Clayton. She didn't even told Victor about Todd's twin brother and the namesake being given to him. Victor would have been rolling over in his own slab marble tomb if he knew about Todd and Victor Jr.
Definitely not Tina, Todd or Victor. He played no role in their upbringing. He also did not know his son Tony until he was well into adulthood. Viki and Meredith were the children that he raised. Viki was the one who he expected the most from and who he pushed the hardest to be a success. I believe he was somewhat warmer with Meredith.
They kept rewriting the story concerning Todd’s parents. Irene loved Todd … then she came back from the dead and revealed she not only didn’t like Todd, but he had a twin brother
I loved the lords as they were very old money & manners. Viki always called bim.father & i love how todd called him " father" also how in the end viki still took care of him. While blair tea even starr & his other 2 kids viki & tina came tjrough for him. Todd was a good man thus viki the only one who took him him in jesse admitted she never felt faux todd was anything like real todd & tina topd him about the $$ even when david told her to shit up as in 2 months the $$ was hers. Then when victor jrs death was faked irene let it all to todd & handed it all to him. The lord sisters alwats looked out for baby brother
His only living son? Uh...what happened to Tony? And don't get me started with the other two kids he had with Irene Clayton. Been even more fun if Andrea Evans had been around and that Tina could have told him off, too.
I could answer Nora's question. It's because Todd never liked Natalie, and had every right not to. Because, it was the way she came in to town, acting like she was entitled to everything, the way she treated the family and most of all the way she treated Viki. Natalie was just a selfish, conniving, manipulative, bitch. I never liked her, oltl fans never liked her, in fact when I think back on it, Natalie was one of the most hated characters on this show. Damn, Melissa Archer sure played the part down to the bone lol
I kind of agree only I liked Natalie and really she was entitled to her share And the reason Todd didn't like Natalie is because she shared some of his qualities
Erika & roger are so magical. I love how he just said viki as she was about to enter vic srs room & she looked back at him & smiled. These 2 were at a level they didnt have to speak. That was an obvious mutual i love u & only us can understand. Only viki above " all others " he trusted & she loved him more than a baby brother but a favorite son/child.
WOW! Roger is absolutely PHENOMENAL! in these scenes my heart broke in a million pieces for Todd
Victor: Irene?
Todd: Yeah, Yeah....Irene....you remember Irene, she was my mother and she loved me. (anyone else laugh at this part--considering it was revealed that Irene orchestrated Todd's imprisonment.)
Victor Lord was evil incarnate. He was evil. I felt bad for Todd, Tina, and Viki. Meredith and Tony were spared how rotten he was.
The character of Victor Lord was not a monster or a child molester in the early years of One Life. In fact Erika Slezak said in an interview that the actor who played Victor back then is probably turning in his grave over how the show rewrote Victor's character.
Me too
@@hapgood22yes she said the character was so warm loving only cracked a joke once a year was very moral & serious. Rauch started the victor slide badly. I get it andrea evans was a kid then returned in her mid 20s more mature & finally the ingenue oltl was desperately searching for. She needed a greater attachment to the powerhouse family & the two leads victors daughter & widow obviously viki & Dorian. They made victor pervy but not evil as rauch kept doing. First to make victor a young womans dad. Viki & irene were only 18. This was creepy w/ the secret room seducing vikis teen but legal roomate & explained her d.i.d. then they pushed her d.i.d back to 17 when victor kidnapped her first born built an underground city esp to protect nazi gold ! So niki was now created to deal w/ roger dying. At least we got megan. Viki still worshipped him after these 2 horrible stories finally micheal malone gead writer of a gang rape to redeem marty ( creepy if u think about it ) & turn a potential young supercouple & ruin a powerhouse young actor in rh from frat boy who was immature & clumsy to like that a leader of a gang rape. For 2 years it was rape rape rape. Esp the serial rapist story. So of course malone went way over the top having victor a beloved original character into a serial incestous child molestor. They even capped it off w/ dorian telling viki she found tons of kiddoe porn videos & pics esp of viki in the secret room. None of this fits. Dorian just forgot all of this figured viki knew ??? Plus watching clips from 85 dorian was shocked about the secret room. Tina & mitch somehow found it. Malone is also responsible for this hideous story victor & mitch alive ! Mitch raped viki & potentially got her pregnant which is crazy b/c i was able to watch viki drink mitchs laced ice t & she was full term w/ one baby already. Malones retyrn was why rh left for 8 years. Malone had a sick fetish for these sick stories. Thankfully they had dorian at least throw a line out that mitch probably hired an imposter. In one of dorians last scenes she muttered to david " viki chooses to believe " when he said " u were almost sent to death row for a crime u didnt commit " now if thos was victor why would dorian say that. It was a sly admission that basically again this was not victor & kept the who killed 1970s real victor was it dorian? Irene ? Maybe vikis alter & dorian may have finished him off where tori lef5 him. Malone also wrote the stupid walker is todd ( should have left him walker as rh 's todd was irreplaceable & plastic surgery stories are horrible then straight recast ) they had fake todd possibly rape blair ( as if ) only to gave sh return to testify for fake todd then for the sad end cop out blair had like a tumour & didnt remember. Wow. Todd never ever ever would rape anyone esp blair. The writers i get need new material but the show went off the rails in the early 2000s. I wont touch tess jess bess wes or natalie of john mcbain forced as the non supercouple.
Why did they even have to kill off victor sr since they milked the man after death for new kids a grandkid a city chuld abuse etc. Maybe it was worth it to create the greatest rivals in viki & dorian
The way Victor taunted him still sends a chill down my spine after all this time.
Ridiculous storyline! If they were going to go through the trouble to rewrite history and bring Victor Sr. back from the dead, they should've kept him on the show a lot longer to be interwoven deeply in the show and wreak havoc on Llanview. And this actor they hired looks like he's only in his 60s instead of his late 80s!
I agreed with you
I agree with you 1000%
“Hell doesn’t want you either?” I wish I could have said that to my mother’s father if I ever encountered him alive again or as a ghost. In the pit he resides, he knows he is hated by us.
When I see Roger Howarth on OLTL, I realize he is wasted as Franco on GH. The writers can now write for Todd again on GH.
Yes, they can. They can also bring the other characters from OLTL back too. Nora has been on GH twice already.
I so wish they would bring some OLTL characters to GH. I would love for Todd to use the Sun to expose what a hypocritical narcissist Sonny is (hate how he is treated like a hero). Bo would give the PCPD a compodent cop, and though this will never happen but I would love to see Luke go drinking with Nikki Smith.
I doubt we’ll ever see that happen. The last of the OLTL actors who came over in 2012 has now left GH even though their OLTL characters left a more than a decade ago
Todd&Blair should be on GH now!!!!!2020
Vicki too, they should have her and Todd save the hospital from Cyrus.
I always had a feeling they would have revealed Hope’s daughter and Cole were still alive if the Prospect Park lawsuit hadn’t gotten in the way and forced GH to ditch all of the OLTL characters. I mean these were the same writers who worked on OLTL and had been setting something up involving Allison Perkins (which was never properly paid off even when Prospect Park did finally get their version of OLTL together)
@@YeoYeo32 me too 😢
Well Blair will be on for a few days soon
This is televisom history thanks alot.
This is the story that cause RH to leave for 8 yrs
@cataz2626 Do you have the scenes where Viki confronts Victor? If you do could you please post them? Thank you for what you have posted so far. It is very much appreciated.
There is a Victor Lord JR.
Victor still haunts Todd more than Irene does. 4:44 the name has already been taken, courtesy of Irene Clayton. She didn't even told Victor about Todd's twin brother and the namesake being given to him. Victor would have been rolling over in his own slab marble tomb if he knew about Todd and Victor Jr.
lol he would have called him victor lord jr lol that is hilarious
Are there any scenes between Victoria and her father?
@CoressMorell he died of a heart attack. there's no coming back from that. but then again it is a soap
Also by 2003 Victor had to already be in his 90s.
Who is Victor favourite child?Victor jr, tina,vick or todd
Definitely not Tina, Todd or Victor. He played no role in their upbringing. He also did not know his son Tony until he was well into adulthood.
Viki and Meredith were the children that he raised. Viki was the one who he expected the most from and who he pushed the hardest to be a success. I believe he was somewhat warmer with Meredith.
They kept rewriting the story concerning Todd’s parents. Irene loved Todd … then she came back from the dead and revealed she not only didn’t like Todd, but he had a twin brother
I loved the lords as they were very old money & manners. Viki always called bim.father & i love how todd called him " father" also how in the end viki still took care of him. While blair tea even starr & his other 2 kids viki & tina came tjrough for him. Todd was a good man thus viki the only one who took him him in jesse admitted she never felt faux todd was anything like real todd & tina topd him about the $$ even when david told her to shit up as in 2 months the $$ was hers. Then when victor jrs death was faked irene let it all to todd & handed it all to him. The lord sisters alwats looked out for baby brother
Thank you
I hate that they made Victor Lord a monster
@crazylazygirl33 Why did he supposedly leave because of this story line?
Does anyone know the real reason RH left in 2003?
@tafolse funny you say that, cause today's episode just revealed that.
Rex and RH did meet!
His only living son? Uh...what happened to Tony? And don't get me started with the other two kids he had with Irene Clayton. Been even more fun if Andrea Evans had been around and that Tina could have told him off, too.
He had two other kids?
I could answer Nora's question. It's because Todd never liked Natalie, and had every right not to. Because, it was the way she came in to town, acting like she was entitled to everything, the way she treated the family and most of all the way she treated Viki. Natalie was just a selfish, conniving, manipulative, bitch. I never liked her, oltl fans never liked her, in fact when I think back on it, Natalie was one of the most hated characters on this show. Damn, Melissa Archer sure played the part down to the bone lol
todd was worge
I kind of agree only I liked Natalie and really she was entitled to her share And the reason Todd didn't like Natalie is because she shared some of his qualities
Natalie was awful, I absolutely agree. Her and John ending up together really bugged me 😷
its weird Todd is suppose to be the villain but I can't help cheer him while Nora is suppose to be good but I can't help but hate her
Todd is anti he has some redeemable qualities. He loves his family and he puts Vicki and Starr above anyone in his life.
Victor Lord and Viki had a good relationships. Why did one life to live ruin it. He was also a good father to her
Yeah
Haha YUP