Just like my old district manager. He never answered my calls or called me back. Except the same day I handed in my two week notice he called me. Funny how that worked.
Companies need to stop undermining the importance of customer service. Even if it’s a good product, shitty CS will make me never want to do business again.
yeah, people will downplay PSA. But their warranty customer service is excellent. I had to send a pistol in to them, they had it repaired and shipped back to me within 3 days. Zero charge.
A reason I am a massive Ruger fan is the customer support. I had a firing pin break on my new MKIV. Called, and they shipped a new enhanced titanium firing pin at no charge without any question. Also I was only on hold for like 30 seconds before talking to a rep.
I thought he was joking when he said $7,000. Nope, it pretty much is. You can buy 2 new SCAR's for that. Or, literally anything else. 2,700 Doritos Locos Tacos or 700 40-piece McNuggets, which is 28,000 McNuggets.
Its not like James paid for the gun. They told him they have it. Maybe they couldn't fix the problems. It was a review gun and maybe the final version of it isn't ready yet. They shouldn't have to keep James updated on everything.
@@monotech20.14 please tell me you're not serious - they send him the gun for free because they expect to make way more money off him reviewing it and having people buy it off his review. Pissing off one customer is bad, pissing off the customer who will influence the buying decisions of tens of thousands of customers is disastrous. Gun manufacturers work on slim margins. A small business with a risky innovative design doesn't have the luxury to f*ck up like this. They should've been kissing ass and begging for him to hold off on his review until they sent him another, with promises and assurances and details laying out what happened and what got fixed to make sure he (and all his viewers) don't have to worry about it again. Instead, they said "yep." and now have a reputable name in the firearm community with a video calling their product "The Most Disappointing Firearm"
I agree with the "one shot to fix it" policy as long as you do disclose what the initial problem was. I really judge a company by how well they handle issues, while I obviously prefer everything to be perfect the first time, shit happens and knowing they will handle any issues is a key part of a review. Typically you are also going to be reviewing products new to the market in which case more issues are to be expected.
Yeah I think the review of customer service is honestly more useful than the review of the product in some ways. Everyone messes up products occasionally but it's whether that problem gets fixed or not that actually matters.
Many moons ago, I read that customers actually tend to be happier with a product & company if they have a problem that's promptly & pleasantly taken care of than they are if there were no problems. Also, when calling, people will get impatient after the third ring, and will usually hang up after the sixth, so now that's stuck in y'all's head too.
I put my money on dissimilar metals! Heating up the aluminum hand garden and upper is quicker than the steel barrel. Meaning it literally squeezes the barrel preventing it from reciprocating
Maybe put your money on him using WOLF 150 gr .308. Editing this as clarification: Camera artifact, S&B and Igman. The progressive rate of failure seems to still indicate fouling of some sort.
@@KarsenKeith Seems like no. Likely a CC artifact. Pre edit: Check when he quickly takes the mag out during one of the malfunctions and tries to hide it from the camera, you can see the distinctive black casing of a wolf 150gr. At 7:00
@@iansanchez331 I've had a Del-ton for a bit. I was disappointed by their parts finishing. Poorest I've ever seen on an AR-15 upper receiver inside, but honestly it's ran fine so far. Haven't put 10k rounds through it or anything; but I've got it on a P80 lower that identifies as binary, and haven't had any malfs after a few hundred rounds. I know that's not much. When it comes to value, I think PSA is better. I also don't know if anyone can see my comments as YT has been hiding them from even me lately; so if you can, please let me know.
Did James mean the opposite of inertia operated shotgun at 05:50? If you clamp an inertia gun into a vise that prevents the slight motion at the start, it will not cycle. That motion of the whole gun is what charges the primary inertia spring. It is opposite of any recoil operated mechanism (short recoil like Browning handgun, or long recoil like Auto 5), where holding the gun stiffer helps.
I think they ran out of ideas like an entire lifetime before us ago theres really only so much you can innovate with guns I reckon, I mean look at how much use the AK platform is still seeing despite being from the 40s. Sure, maybe the common AK today is slightly different from the OG from the 40s, but nothing fundamentally has changed. we're still using the m2 browning .50 cal machine gun from WW2 as well, on like a ton of vehicles, ESPECIALLY in Ukraine right now, which is the most modern war in human history using weapons never used in any war before. All thats left is putting a new coat of paint on existing things and making things worse to seem different and attract interest.
Depends how they balanced the system. They can make it work (let's forget for the sake of argument that it doesn't) with a muzzle break or without. However adding a muzzle brake afterwards would probably be an issue.
Olympus Arms made the mistake of not realizing before you can behave like HK, you have to make guns like HK… All that aside, I imagine a simple monthly status update and apology would have stopped James from looking at OA like the RAF looking at Dresden.
@@OffensiveProduction1 it's technically true, but practically doesn't matter that much... its a sales pitch and its not technically wrong, but a gun generally moves less than a millimeter before the bullet leaves the barrel.
He was 100% correct. By definition, recoil (reaction force of the acceleration of the bullet) can only happen while the bullet is transiting the barrel and recoil is what moves a shooter (or, a portion of the shooter, such as compressing the meat of the shoulder pocket). As the shooter moves, the barrel moves. It's hard to say how the shooter, and hence barrel, will move - backwards, laterally, or likely a combination of both. And yes, it matters and is a known component of accuracy. On a 24" barrel, every 0.001" of lateral movement of the barrel = 0.050" of lateral movement of the point of impact at 100 yards. So, lateral movement the width of a piece of paper (say 0.005") = 0.25" at 100 yards. It's not huge, put it's not nuthin'.
Recoil operation works very well - it works great in the majority of production pistols, all the recoil operated shotguns that are around, and in the Barrett .50 cal rifles, just as few examples. There's no reason why this shouldn't work outside of poor execution. Otherwise, a recoil operated .308(or similar size/power cartridge) makes all kinds of sense.
I see the issue, you were using ammo and not rendering the effects on a computer. If you had 3D rendered all the action scenes, this $7,000 rifle with WA State compliant parts would've brought a wide grin on your face and made your shorts feel a little tighter.
@@ktosty6983 I don't know that it's evolving backwards. I'd say it is higher recoil rounds trying to catch up. We learned back in the day that the extra recoil made a rifles use a bit brutal over extended firing, and so we designed different ammunition. Still, for uses that require heavy ammunition, we have this system to work with; see the Barret M107 and Inkunzi PAW. Here, they are trying to utilize that system on a smaller modern rifle that many would think wouldn't need it, but the M14 and the FAL both lost out for full auto fire in the end for excessive recoil. *Correction: The Inkunzi PAW is an inertial action, not long recoil. But there are other examples like the Lynx .50 cal.
Reminds me of the MDR story. Early on they had terrible communication and terrible customer service if you weren't a gun channel. Now they've matured a bit and improved. It's great to have more innovative firearms on the market. Maybe they can partner with another company to get things sorted out.
James that is a nice System if they can get it to work properly! Ronnie Barrett took 7 years to get the M82 Light Fifty Rifle to work properly from 1980 to 1986 and then the US Military started to tested shortly after that in 1990 the US DOD started to purchase M82A1s. Olympic Arms has allot of work ahead of them because it looks to me that they are having an issue with the Buffer Tube Spring Bringing back the barrel to battery but the issue is that there should also be some additional buffers to slow down the barrel rearward travel without totally overwhelming the Forward Progress Needed to Reload the Chamber and that is where they are Hanging UP! Inertia Weapons can sometimes have MAJOR ISSUES when they are used in HIGH HUMIDITY and WET Conditions as many Benelli M2 owners know if they do not keep their shotgun clean and properly lubed. Allot of the time it is not an issue of Too Little or Too Much Lube but the Right Amount to make the System work like a Pendulum with the ability to go back and forth with little input and that is the KEY! I have played with a few M2 Browning Machine Guns and even a couple of M107 during my Military Days and I have seen Weapons that have acted just like that rifle. The Weapon is not ready for SALE Olympus Arms needs to take it back to the R&D Engineers and Up the weight of the Buffer Tube Spring while at the same time making sure the weapon can cycle properly then they will be ready but that is ALLOT of SMALL Adjustments that the majority of the people that buy a rifle like that specially at 7k will not do!
Absolutely fair. Really cool concept, but the manufacturing needs work. That can happen when a small company gears up to manufacture. What cannot happen is abysmal customer service...unless you're trying to sink your small boat.
As with all new products, be smart and wait. Should be the standard consumer principle. If this gun comes good then great, if not you've saved some money.
The John Browning long recoil, sliding barrel design is an incredibly reliable mechanism. Same for his Remington Model 8 semi auto rifle. Kicks like a Missouri Mule, but I have NEVER had a Browning A5 Shotgun jam. EVER. Thousands of light rounds, NO jams. This rifle seems a different story.
went bird hunting early last year and everyone’s nice new semi autos were having issues with bird shot except for my step brother’s 70 year old auto 5 (and my old ass side by side)
After the shot show range video I went searching online for info on the company and this rifle, nothing could be found but one reference to the rifle, the TFB TV video. I knew at that moment the rifle was doomed.
The rifle is shit, granted, but anyone saying “reciprocating barrels aren’t accurate” must be forgetting that the M2 uses short-recoil, and was more than accurate enough for Carlos Hathcock.
it was by no means one shot one kill. he lobbed lead from that thing every day and the accuracy was in roughly a 6-foot cone for his cold zero on the ho chi minh trail. Even he said he got lucky with that shot. Reciprocal barrels are inherently less accurate because the breech is not pressed into the receiver, and as such will vary from the optic's zero on every shot even if it's a miniscule amount.
i kinda feel like olympus just thought you were sending it back to them post review, as if you were done with it. prolly gonna have to keep on 'em til they figure it out. I wonder if the vulcan wants more powerful ammo. good luck ever getting it back; it's be nice to see one of those run flawlessly. always an enjoyable vid on TFB. cheers; keep makin em!
I think the email response is likely from a guy who was not looped in on "why" the T&E gun arrived back. I mean, at 5-6 months delay...the dude may have not even been working for Olympus when the rifle was shipped back, and he may have just been answering emails, lol.
How on earth does a TFB test rifle "fall through the cracks?" They knew this was going to be filmed, right??? I'd love to be a fly on the wall in that Olympus Arms conference room debrief on Monday!
I've never seen a GunTuber turn more firearms into "one-shot-wonders" as you, James. You truly have a one-in-a-million set of skills. Bryan Mills himself would be amazed.
I would say it's most similar to the Remington Model 8, one of the earliest commercial semi-auto rifle and was designed by John Browning. This gun definitely took the old style of long recoil operation and refined it; old school long recoil were notorious for its recoil impulse, so kudos to Olympus Arms for solving that problem. Otherwise, it's not a new concept at all. People more commonly know this system in the Browning Auto 5. The thing is, a regular AR-10, DI (internal piston) or (external) piston, can already achieve 2 MOA average. The SR-25/M110 is already around 1.5 MOA. The claim that the moving barrel guarantees better accuracy sounds like a half truth where the gains are marginal at best. I can't recall if Ian had given a piece of his mind of this rifle during SHOT but I know he won't be impressed by this thing beyond how they revived and refined the long recoil operation for rifles.
The accuracy claim was kind of dumb and unnecessary, nobody in their right mind would have expected a recoil operated firearm to be a precision rifle. In my opinion, they should have started with a smaller cartridge, like 5.56 and use the selling point that recoil runs cleaner and is usually lighter than gas/piston. But, either way, it would have been an uphill battle with pricing like that - how do you justify $7000 when you can build a good AR 308 for under $2000, or whatever a 5.56 version might have cost compared to all the ~$1000 ARs out there...
@@shmuckling You can get the SIG Spear with the cost of one of these things. And yeah, a sub-2000 dollar AR-10 build will achieve 2 MOA consistently and better with the right ammo. And one of the reasons that the recoil operated rifle is abandoned is also the potential for reliability issues because of increased complexity. It seems that Olympus is able to damp a lot of the harshness from the long recoil operation but that might absorb too much of the energy and we see why James have issues with it. Might be a comfortable gun--something you can do with gas system tuning and the right choice of springs and buffers on a regular AR-10 as well as muzzle device--but what's the point of good recoil impulse if it can't cycle every time.
I really hope it works out for them, I appreciate any company innovating and trying new things; a failed attempt at something new is almost as valuable as something new that changes the game.
@@papalegba6796 Long recoil works fine, a majority of larger bore machineguns and autocannons work fine off of long recoil. A decent amount of AMRs work off of long recoil. Almost every handgun works off of long recoil. This is not even mentioning various shotguns and the remington model 81, which was used for an extreme amount of time or perhaps the browning auto 5, the most prolific self loading shotgun to ever exist. You should spam more emojis it really gives everyone else a good idea of how narrow minded you are.
I purchased mine back when they were $3800. Took 6 months to get it. There are videos on thier sight where they tell you about lubricating different parts. Mine wasn't bad as James but they do give the rifle a 50 round break in time. Mine took 200 rounds to break in and now it is fairly reliable. Accuracy is 2 MOA. It is a fun range toy but if you want something to depend your life on ger an AR.
TFB's policy of giving a manufacturer one chance to fix any problems is fair, as no mfr has ever had a 100% perfect record - especially for a new product. It's not possible. Someone will get one of 1% defective products or one of 0.01%, but the number will never be zero and someone will be unlucky. That's why it's important to test your equipment before trusting it.
Good video, as always. To be fair, that appeared to be a two-line response to a one-line inquiry (10:07). I would try explaining that you do, in fact, have questions. What kind of ammo were you using?
I just bought a Falkor Petra that sends a larger round further with very little recoil, and I know it's a pretty penny but I really wanted it and saved up. This thing you're fighting with fails to cycle at a price $1200 more than my FerrARi was with a very nice case and shipping included!!
The ghosting of JJ then the curt belated reply tells you everything you need to know about the folks at Olympus Arms and their $7K scam-o-matic rifle. A well deserved “default judgement” delivered by James Reeves, Esq.
Small caliber artillery thud rifle. Failures aside, I still want one... of but for no other reason than it will likely be the only recoilless .308 of the century.
Honestly, I wish someone big, like PSA, would bring a modernized version of that back. A little problem with the Rem Rimless cartridge line-up being non-existent today, but they could chamber it in something like 5.56 or .350 Legend.
@@shmuckling unfortunately I don’t think that’ll ever happen for a price even close to resembling “Affordable” it’s a pretty complex design to manufacture. But you can get originals in 300 savage if you’ve got a good eye for just under $1000
In slo-mo you can clearly see that the bolt and barrel doesn't separate at the end of the recoil travel, they go forward still together, hence the failure to extract. In a long recoil action, that' should be mechanically impossible. So, or the lever that locks the bolt at the end of the travel, ensuring separation, broke, or the bolt-barrel setup doesn't reach the end of the recoiling course. Because the rifle has some friction enhancer (like many long recoil actions, to reduce felt recoil. See the friction ring of the Auto-5) that, with thermal expansion, becomes too effective.
@@DC-bk6ep i thought the UXR used a push stroke? Where the drive rod moves with the BCG until unlock.. well. If that's the case then my idea would actually be different
They over engineered it to try to have their cake and eat it too. It's fundamentally complex and expensive. They should have eaten their failure to make it work but no one wants bankruptcy.
I've got a 20" PSA Gen3 Ar10. Put a 3 vent comp on it and a 9 ounce buffer. Super smooth shooter. Tack driving SS heavy barrel. A heavy beast to tote. I'm used to heavy so I have a heavy-carry sling and an old swivel carry handle to break up the weight fatigue from long duration carry. I'm a poor, but beware threatening those under my protection.
Different smokes for different folks... I've tried this every year at SHOT and always disliked it, lol. Innovative? Maybe. Comfortable and smooth? Not at all for me.
I was thinking the same thing. I'm not saying a moving barrel gun can't be accurate, but what he says goes against every principle of gun manufacturing of few moving parts leads to better mechanical accuracy. But even talking about shooter accuracy, what he says about recoil throwing off shooters is just plain wrong.
Dude this is so depressing i remember fhe other video you did of it and it looked so cool. I was like man if that action works that platform would be crazy awesome for the 308 or 6.5creedmoor. Imagine no recoil rifle like that with a 30round mag full of armor piercing incindiary 308 rounds man
Muzzle brake important to counter secondary recoil, which is major contributor to felt recoil. It is a result of gasses from muzzle blast forming force pair with atmospheric gasses, thus pushing gun back, plus atmospheric gasses rushing into evacuated barrel after shot.
@papalegba6796 exhaust gasses hitting the atmosphere does not generate more recoil. In the same way rocket engines don't generate more thrust in an atmosphere
My NEMO OMEN RECON in 300 win mag has even less recoil than this, far less actually, and it has a superb non-reciprocating Bartlien thick steel barrel to boot. I think it has much to do with NEMO's unique BCG design with an additional dampening spring at the rear that interfaces with the buffer tube assembly and delays bcg movement. Additionally, the titanium muzzle brake also substantially reduces recoil further. You really end up with a 300 win mag that feels like 556 or even smaller caliber. I Love it so much, that I actually plan to get another one with a longer barrel(Maybe the Watchman).
@@kh503335 So I've looked at just about all the information on the internet I can find on Nemo, and in particular the Watchman model. I was already convinced that I wanted one, but the conversation I had with my local gunshop owner today really pushed me over the edge. I was in the store paying for a new Smith Bodyguard 2.0, when I mentioned to the guy ringing me up that I'd been researching the Nemo Watchman. The owner of the shop overheard me, and came running out from the back. I was worried about keeping them past quitting time, but the owner just wouldn't stop talking about how impressed he was with the entire Nemo line. He acted as the FFL for a buddy of his that wanted to purchase one. His buddy took him out shooting it several times. The owner of the gun shop ended up ordering one for himself as he was so impressed with it. He said it is just unreal to be shooting full power 300 Winchester Magnum rounds and getting the soft tap to the shoulder of a 5.56. He said that other than the increased weight, you would swear that you were shooting a 5.56 AR-15. The conversation continued for quite a while, as he was quite enthusiastic about his rifle, but I'll cut him some slack, as we all know that feeling! So yeah, thanks to your post, I'll be asking Santa Wife for one for Christmas. And an optic for my Birthday, and a suppressor for Fathers day, etc. etc. I was hoping to be able to use my SilencerCo Omega 36M on it, but apparently it's not really meant for rapid fire 300 win mag, and there is a muzzle brake/suppressor combo that is supposed to work even better with the Watchman. I had to cut the conversation off at the beginning of the suppressor discussion, so I'll be going back to talk to him about the brake/suppressor combo he recommends. It's definitely going to be a while to get the rifle completely outfitted, as the cost of the rifle, optic, brake, and suppressor is going to put the total cost a bit north of $11k. So I'll just be starting with the rifle for now, as long as Santa Wife will spend that much money on me for Christmas. :) Thank you so much for posting about this little gem!
Oh, forgot a bit of detail in what little time we had to talk about suppressors... He said something about a suppressor that either works with the Nemo factory brake, or that the suppressor company got the rights to use Nemo's brake design so that they could manufacture a brake that could be used as a quick mount for their can. The whole point being that they wanted to keep the effectiveness of Nemo's brake while being able to mount a suppressor. I need to get some clarification on this from him.
Solid, thanks for the review. Customer service is HUGE.....When I pay a ton of money for something there shouldn't be any issues with it. IF there is, I expect customer service make a serious warm fuzzy
Contrast this to a couple of years ago when Desert Tech had review gun go south with another channel. They actually worked with said channel to get it right.
Knowing what I know about long recoil, before even watching I'm gonna guess there's reliability and accuracy issues. Edit: LOL. LMFAO. Guess we'll have to wait until part 2 to find out it's not accurate.
@@theforcedmeme that is not a legitimate or recognized position by the international committee of positions certification branch. That is an outlaw position reserved for scoundrels, miscreants and people who like soccer and the metric system.
See you guys on the forgotten weapons review in a few years 💀
Or even months
Maybe one named Forsaken Weapons?
@@Manco65 Forsaken Weapons sounds like a great B channel idea for Ian @forgottenweapons.
Exactly 👍
Even Gun Jeebus wants to forget about this one !
I bet you got a email strangely 10mins after this video posted 😂
Just like my old district manager.
He never answered my calls or called me back.
Except the same day I handed in my two week notice he called me. Funny how that worked.
‘Yep got it’ guy is going to have an interesting Monday morning at work.
Everyone not named Tristan, say 'I'...iiii
I was thinking similarly.
@@762x69 you know his Mom loved Brad Pitt and Legends of the Fall soooo much.
@@Craig_Nyet, only you got that reference 😂
if his boss is worth a damn
Companies need to stop undermining the importance of customer service. Even if it’s a good product, shitty CS will make me never want to do business again.
yeah, people will downplay PSA. But their warranty customer service is excellent. I had to send a pistol in to them, they had it repaired and shipped back to me within 3 days. Zero charge.
HK and Colt, I'm looking at you.
I'm completely with you. I've had companies win me back after a horrible experience. By going above and beyond to make it right.
Aero has horrible out of spec parts sell all the time. I have gotten more bad parts than good, but CS is so good I’m not terribly upset
A reason I am a massive Ruger fan is the customer support. I had a firing pin break on my new MKIV. Called, and they shipped a new enhanced titanium firing pin at no charge without any question. Also I was only on hold for like 30 seconds before talking to a rep.
I thought he was joking when he said $7,000. Nope, it pretty much is.
You can buy 2 new SCAR's for that. Or, literally anything else. 2,700 Doritos Locos Tacos or 700 40-piece McNuggets, which is 28,000 McNuggets.
I bought an old Coupe Deville for $250 in 1989. Drove it home with the AC blasting! 🤣
So the question is: would you rather spend 7k on a gun that doesn't work, or eat 2 pounds of chicken nuggets every day for the next year and a half.
In this economy, the choice is easy. Not even figuring in ammo.@@robertm.4167
If anyone orders 28k nuggets I'd be jazzed if you'd send 100 my way.
We really are screwed. Older generations didn't want newer ones to do anything but struggle.
It's creepy how Olympus ghosted you like the drunken one-nighter.
Ghosted James harder than my last situationship
zeus? is that you?
The recoil wasn’t light enough to comfort hurt feelings.
That’s not creepy that’s just disrespectful 😂
We’ve all been there. Get really excited and eager …Performance anxiety kicks in…. Can’t get the barrel up. Ghosted.
Damn, imagine making your "Going Out of Business" announcement via a one sentence email - that's crazy
Its not like James paid for the gun. They told him they have it. Maybe they couldn't fix the problems. It was a review gun and maybe the final version of it isn't ready yet. They shouldn't have to keep James updated on everything.
@@monotech20.14 please tell me you're not serious - they send him the gun for free because they expect to make way more money off him reviewing it and having people buy it off his review. Pissing off one customer is bad, pissing off the customer who will influence the buying decisions of tens of thousands of customers is disastrous.
Gun manufacturers work on slim margins. A small business with a risky innovative design doesn't have the luxury to f*ck up like this.
They should've been kissing ass and begging for him to hold off on his review until they sent him another, with promises and assurances and details laying out what happened and what got fixed to make sure he (and all his viewers) don't have to worry about it again.
Instead, they said "yep." and now have a reputable name in the firearm community with a video calling their product "The Most Disappointing Firearm"
@@A_Qwynide He's not a customer. He reviewed a sample gun.
@@monotech20.14 way to miss the most important 90% of the point and choose petty semantics to argue over. Good job 👍🏼
@@monotech20.14 A sample is indicative of the lot but by all means cope and strawman just a bit more..
Reminder that a $250 Maverick 88 survived a more brutal beat down than this junk
$250 for a 88? you overpaid!! more like $180 at a pawnshop AND its already had a few thousand rounds through it lmao
Don't forget the Yeet Cannon's functionality at 1/28th the price.
Maverick 88 for the win.
88 is the best.
@@007twm 590a1 ftw, 88 is a great budget option for those who are tight on money.
The slow mo bee attack was EPIC, made watching this totally worth it
I'm sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused.
@@cbbees1468 😂
And this is why I love this community - appreciation of the little things.
That wasn't no bee attack. That was a bee flick ifyaknowudayemean...
No recoil from James either!!
I agree with the "one shot to fix it" policy as long as you do disclose what the initial problem was. I really judge a company by how well they handle issues, while I obviously prefer everything to be perfect the first time, shit happens and knowing they will handle any issues is a key part of a review. Typically you are also going to be reviewing products new to the market in which case more issues are to be expected.
Always have, always will
Yeah I think the review of customer service is honestly more useful than the review of the product in some ways. Everyone messes up products occasionally but it's whether that problem gets fixed or not that actually matters.
Many moons ago, I read that customers actually tend to be happier with a product & company if they have a problem that's promptly & pleasantly taken care of than they are if there were no problems. Also, when calling, people will get impatient after the third ring, and will usually hang up after the sixth, so now that's stuck in y'all's head too.
Masterclass on how to roast a manufacturer....reciprocated with facts.
The kiss of doom from TFB TV
10:36 Is there any more slowmotion footage of James fist fighting giant bees? This review turned into EDF for a second there.
Another cultured individual.
Where's said bee clip?? I miss it :(
"like a Microtech knife" I spent $300 on one of those and it pocket lint made it so unreliable that I now carry a $20 Atomic OTF.
I’ve carried one for years and never had a single issue with it.
@@brettb5089 this mf got no pocket lint
@@CanyonF he can’t afford lint with knife prices like that
@@brettb5089 Maybe I need to improve my pocket lint game
Microtech OTFs are overrated garbage like Tony Marfione and their folders haven’t been interesting for 20 years.
That's how a review should be. I appreciate the honesty.
I put my money on dissimilar metals! Heating up the aluminum hand garden and upper is quicker than the steel barrel. Meaning it literally squeezes the barrel preventing it from reciprocating
Maybe put your money on him using WOLF 150 gr .308.
Editing this as clarification: Camera artifact, S&B and Igman. The progressive rate of failure seems to still indicate fouling of some sort.
@@Nothing_._Here Is he actually?
Wasn't that one of the chauchat's problems?
@@KarsenKeith Seems like no. Likely a CC artifact.
Pre edit:
Check when he quickly takes the mag out during one of the malfunctions and tries to hide it from the camera, you can see the distinctive black casing of a wolf 150gr.
At 7:00
@@Nothing_._Herekinda sad that for $7k it can't even run steel
Bummer. I do appreciate your honest reviews and sense of humor James.
Looks over at my $500 Del-ton and whispers, "Dont worry, baby. You're not going anywhere".
Over here caressing my psa I’ve had for several years 😂
How reliable has your DelTon been?
@iansanchez331 joining this thread hoping to find out.
@@iansanchez331 I've had a Del-ton for a bit. I was disappointed by their parts finishing. Poorest I've ever seen on an AR-15 upper receiver inside, but honestly it's ran fine so far. Haven't put 10k rounds through it or anything; but I've got it on a P80 lower that identifies as binary, and haven't had any malfs after a few hundred rounds. I know that's not much.
When it comes to value, I think PSA is better.
I also don't know if anyone can see my comments as YT has been hiding them from even me lately; so if you can, please let me know.
I have been sitting here stroking my Bear Creek
Did James mean the opposite of inertia operated shotgun at 05:50? If you clamp an inertia gun into a vise that prevents the slight motion at the start, it will not cycle. That motion of the whole gun is what charges the primary inertia spring. It is opposite of any recoil operated mechanism (short recoil like Browning handgun, or long recoil like Auto 5), where holding the gun stiffer helps.
Yeah I'm an idiot. Thanks for catching that.
Giving James a bad gun AND bad customer service is the number one way to destroy your brand.
It seems like people are running out of ideas on how to take our money.
Au contraire, it's an Australia-legal AR10.
I dunno PSA keeps getting mine
IDK, politicians seem to have all those ideas
I think they ran out of ideas like an entire lifetime before us ago
theres really only so much you can innovate with guns I reckon, I mean look at how much use the AK platform is still seeing despite being from the 40s. Sure, maybe the common AK today is slightly different from the OG from the 40s, but nothing fundamentally has changed. we're still using the m2 browning .50 cal machine gun from WW2 as well, on like a ton of vehicles, ESPECIALLY in Ukraine right now, which is the most modern war in human history using weapons never used in any war before. All thats left is putting a new coat of paint on existing things and making things worse to seem different and attract interest.
You could get a solid AR 10, scope, ammo and a class for $7000.
Taking out a cheap car loan for a straight pull AR-10
7k?
Psa ar10 for 7 bones. $2k optic. Cases of ammo.
Legit, several tier-1 courses. 😊
@fairlanemuscle PSA QC is so bad, you dont know if you will get a working gun or not. 😂 PSA builds shiny turds that rarely last
@@zack9912000riiight.
10 dollar battle rifle
Thanks for giving it a chance. It’s not something I would be in the market for even if it was perfect, but it is a cool idea.
I'd think a system like that would NOT want a muzzle brake on it.
Depends how they balanced the system. They can make it work (let's forget for the sake of argument that it doesn't) with a muzzle break or without. However adding a muzzle brake afterwards would probably be an issue.
James never fails with his burns
😂😂😂
Olympus Arms made the mistake of not realizing before you can behave like HK, you have to make guns like HK… All that aside, I imagine a simple monthly status update and apology would have stopped James from looking at OA like the RAF looking at Dresden.
Now that's one weird example to use, war crimes aren't fun.
@@selmevias1383 War crime?? Get real!
@selmevias1383 the HK comparison is on point.
@@stephenurban9880 Last time I've checked, firebombing unarmed civilian population was a war crime, it still is.
@selmevias1383 Coventry would like to have a word with you. Don't start no war, won't be no Dresden.
The gATF is not gonna be happy that it keeps converting itself into a 10" sbr without the 27 form 1's you need from 2 mags worth of ammo.
lol i was gonna say that
It’s actually gAFT.
😂
Lmfao. "The shooter moves before the bullet gets out of the barrel." 😂
When I saw that clip I knew it was gonna be worse than expected 😂
@@OffensiveProduction1 it's technically true, but practically doesn't matter that much... its a sales pitch and its not technically wrong, but a gun generally moves less than a millimeter before the bullet leaves the barrel.
Reminds me of the movie Wanted. Wonder if he's seen that
He was 100% correct. By definition, recoil (reaction force of the acceleration of the bullet) can only happen while the bullet is transiting the barrel and recoil is what moves a shooter (or, a portion of the shooter, such as compressing the meat of the shoulder pocket). As the shooter moves, the barrel moves. It's hard to say how the shooter, and hence barrel, will move - backwards, laterally, or likely a combination of both. And yes, it matters and is a known component of accuracy. On a 24" barrel, every 0.001" of lateral movement of the barrel = 0.050" of lateral movement of the point of impact at 100 yards. So, lateral movement the width of a piece of paper (say 0.005") = 0.25" at 100 yards. It's not huge, put it's not nuthin'.
Wait. It takes around 0.20 seconds for the brain to react to stimuli, i.e. recoil. The bullet has to be out of the barrel by then, right? Right? 🤔
Never thought this would work. Thanks for saving me $$
Preconceived judgement goes brrrrrrrr. Just got the confirmation bias upgrade.
How did he save you money if you obviously weren't going to buy it anyways
@@Survivinglife871 LOL, right?!
Recoil operation works very well - it works great in the majority of production pistols, all the recoil operated shotguns that are around, and in the Barrett .50 cal rifles, just as few examples. There's no reason why this shouldn't work outside of poor execution. Otherwise, a recoil operated .308(or similar size/power cartridge) makes all kinds of sense.
If you never thought it would work anyway he didn't save you any money.
I see the issue, you were using ammo and not rendering the effects on a computer. If you had 3D rendered all the action scenes, this $7,000 rifle with WA State compliant parts would've brought a wide grin on your face and made your shorts feel a little tighter.
Recoils in Chauchat.
This is my first time hearing about this gun and this was my first thought.
@@Hybris51129 same. The action on the Olympus is not exactly the same as the Chauchat, the amount the barrel travels is huge, like crazy huge!
Olympus could be a a new gun term for dropping the ball. "Man, they really Olympused this product."
Goes right in line with, "don't Zeus this up"
I didn’t want to get Olympus’d out here in the middle of nowhere
“Goes from a Ryan to a Hickok45” Ryan catching strays.
I had to re-watch that part, cuz I couldn't believe he said that. LOL
I fucking cackled
The first semi auto rifles were long recoil
Its litteraly evolving backwards
Recoill moves backwards 😁
I couldn't believe when he said "novel idea". We literally stopped doing this a century ago because it's ass, now it's novel?
I can't believe he said literally
@@sharkmiiiscoolliterally 😂😂😂
@@ktosty6983 I don't know that it's evolving backwards. I'd say it is higher recoil rounds trying to catch up. We learned back in the day that the extra recoil made a rifles use a bit brutal over extended firing, and so we designed different ammunition. Still, for uses that require heavy ammunition, we have this system to work with; see the Barret M107 and Inkunzi PAW. Here, they are trying to utilize that system on a smaller modern rifle that many would think wouldn't need it, but the M14 and the FAL both lost out for full auto fire in the end for excessive recoil.
*Correction: The Inkunzi PAW is an inertial action, not long recoil. But there are other examples like the Lynx .50 cal.
shot show has become shark tank
change my mind LOLLOLOLOLOLO
Shark Show?
Shot Tank?
Theres a fishing convention called ICAST and it has become the same mess
Always has been…
9:07 Rule #1 of long distance range trips: always bring a backup fun gun that you know works ;)
Truth!
I thought that by now, James would be used to shrinkage and performance issues...on long guns of course.
Reminds me of the MDR story. Early on they had terrible communication and terrible customer service if you weren't a gun channel. Now they've matured a bit and improved. It's great to have more innovative firearms on the market. Maybe they can partner with another company to get things sorted out.
James that is a nice System if they can get it to work properly! Ronnie Barrett took 7 years to get the M82 Light Fifty Rifle to work properly from 1980 to 1986 and then the US Military started to tested shortly after that in 1990 the US DOD started to purchase M82A1s. Olympic Arms has allot of work ahead of them because it looks to me that they are having an issue with the Buffer Tube Spring Bringing back the barrel to battery but the issue is that there should also be some additional buffers to slow down the barrel rearward travel without totally overwhelming the Forward Progress Needed to Reload the Chamber and that is where they are Hanging UP! Inertia Weapons can sometimes have MAJOR ISSUES when they are used in HIGH HUMIDITY and WET Conditions as many Benelli M2 owners know if they do not keep their shotgun clean and properly lubed.
Allot of the time it is not an issue of Too Little or Too Much Lube but the Right Amount to make the System work like a Pendulum with the ability to go back and forth with little input and that is the KEY!
I have played with a few M2 Browning Machine Guns and even a couple of M107 during my Military Days and I have seen Weapons that have acted just like that rifle. The Weapon is not ready for SALE Olympus Arms needs to take it back to the R&D Engineers and Up the weight of the Buffer Tube Spring while at the same time making sure the weapon can cycle properly then they will be ready but that is ALLOT of SMALL Adjustments that the majority of the people that buy a rifle like that specially at 7k will not do!
They've sent you a bolt-action variant of the rifle by an accident XD
Absolutely fair. Really cool concept, but the manufacturing needs work. That can happen when a small company gears up to manufacture. What cannot happen is abysmal customer service...unless you're trying to sink your small boat.
It is unfortunately a flop. I wanted one bad
As with all new products, be smart and wait. Should be the standard consumer principle. If this gun comes good then great, if not you've saved some money.
Did you really though? I mean...genuinely? Someone thinks that a gimmicky barrel is suddenly worth $7K?
The John Browning long recoil, sliding barrel design is an incredibly reliable mechanism. Same for his Remington Model 8 semi auto rifle. Kicks like a Missouri Mule, but I have NEVER had a Browning A5 Shotgun jam. EVER. Thousands of light rounds, NO jams. This rifle seems a different story.
went bird hunting early last year and everyone’s nice new semi autos were having issues with bird shot except for my step brother’s 70 year old auto 5 (and my old ass side by side)
After the shot show range video I went searching online for info on the company and this rifle, nothing could be found but one reference to the rifle, the TFB TV video. I knew at that moment the rifle was doomed.
I really wanted to see that 1 MOA proven. Love y’all for the no BS reviews!
The rifle is shit, granted, but anyone saying “reciprocating barrels aren’t accurate” must be forgetting that the M2 uses short-recoil, and was more than accurate enough for Carlos Hathcock.
@@Zach_Hazard Yeah, but he had that feather for luck! 😋
it was by no means one shot one kill. he lobbed lead from that thing every day and the accuracy was in roughly a 6-foot cone for his cold zero on the ho chi minh trail. Even he said he got lucky with that shot. Reciprocal barrels are inherently less accurate because the breech is not pressed into the receiver, and as such will vary from the optic's zero on every shot even if it's a miniscule amount.
@@hakjobtm7472 6 feet at 2500 yards is pretty good. 😅
@@whelper4231 it's pretty good but by no means precision
Because recipricating barrels are inherently less precise than fixed barrels. Its a simple matter of fact.
That final response is fucking hilarious. What a way to sink your company hahaha
i kinda feel like olympus just thought you were sending it back to them post review, as if you were done with it. prolly gonna have to keep on 'em til they figure it out. I wonder if the vulcan wants more powerful ammo. good luck ever getting it back; it's be nice to see one of those run flawlessly. always an enjoyable vid on TFB. cheers; keep makin em!
I think the email response is likely from a guy who was not looped in on "why" the T&E gun arrived back. I mean, at 5-6 months delay...the dude may have not even been working for Olympus when the rifle was shipped back, and he may have just been answering emails, lol.
Great video, love the honesty, Thank you very much.
Thank you for your honesty and integrity.
I liked the slowmo with the bumblebees at least. Theyre so clumsy lol but sweet
I was excited about it too. Sorry to see how it turned out. Thanks!
How on earth does a TFB test rifle "fall through the cracks?" They knew this was going to be filmed, right??? I'd love to be a fly on the wall in that Olympus Arms conference room debrief on Monday!
A admirable effort at turning a .308 Ar-10 into a Browning A5 with more barrel travel. The Remington R51 of Ar-10's.
08:17 He's had that problem before.
I've never seen a GunTuber turn more firearms into "one-shot-wonders" as you, James.
You truly have a one-in-a-million set of skills. Bryan Mills himself would be amazed.
I would say it's most similar to the Remington Model 8, one of the earliest commercial semi-auto rifle and was designed by John Browning.
This gun definitely took the old style of long recoil operation and refined it; old school long recoil were notorious for its recoil impulse, so kudos to Olympus Arms for solving that problem. Otherwise, it's not a new concept at all. People more commonly know this system in the Browning Auto 5.
The thing is, a regular AR-10, DI (internal piston) or (external) piston, can already achieve 2 MOA average. The SR-25/M110 is already around 1.5 MOA. The claim that the moving barrel guarantees better accuracy sounds like a half truth where the gains are marginal at best.
I can't recall if Ian had given a piece of his mind of this rifle during SHOT but I know he won't be impressed by this thing beyond how they revived and refined the long recoil operation for rifles.
The accuracy claim was kind of dumb and unnecessary, nobody in their right mind would have expected a recoil operated firearm to be a precision rifle. In my opinion, they should have started with a smaller cartridge, like 5.56 and use the selling point that recoil runs cleaner and is usually lighter than gas/piston. But, either way, it would have been an uphill battle with pricing like that - how do you justify $7000 when you can build a good AR 308 for under $2000, or whatever a 5.56 version might have cost compared to all the ~$1000 ARs out there...
JMB made a gun that lasted more than 100 rounds
@@shmuckling You can get the SIG Spear with the cost of one of these things. And yeah, a sub-2000 dollar AR-10 build will achieve 2 MOA consistently and better with the right ammo.
And one of the reasons that the recoil operated rifle is abandoned is also the potential for reliability issues because of increased complexity. It seems that Olympus is able to damp a lot of the harshness from the long recoil operation but that might absorb too much of the energy and we see why James have issues with it. Might be a comfortable gun--something you can do with gas system tuning and the right choice of springs and buffers on a regular AR-10 as well as muzzle device--but what's the point of good recoil impulse if it can't cycle every time.
Wheel: Reinvented
Dead Horse: Thoroughly beaten
I love the new James horse impression intro.
Not that I ever doubted the veracity of James or TFBTV on reviews, but videos like this really build up my brand trust in you guys.
I really hope it works out for them, I appreciate any company innovating and trying new things; a failed attempt at something new is almost as valuable as something new that changes the game.
It's not new or innovative. It's a century old concept that got abandoned because it doesn't work very well 😂
@@papalegba6796 Source?
@@Nothing_._Here Source: everywhere, by everyone, starting in 1885 . Does Google not work for you?🤔 😂
@@papalegba6796 Long recoil works fine, a majority of larger bore machineguns and autocannons work fine off of long recoil.
A decent amount of AMRs work off of long recoil.
Almost every handgun works off of long recoil.
This is not even mentioning various shotguns and the remington model 81, which was used for an extreme amount of time or perhaps the browning auto 5, the most prolific self loading shotgun to ever exist.
You should spam more emojis it really gives everyone else a good idea of how narrow minded you are.
@@Nothing_._Here not as lightweight target rifles tho, slow poke. Which is what this is marketed as 😂
I purchased mine back when they were $3800. Took 6 months to get it. There are videos on thier sight where they tell you about lubricating different parts. Mine wasn't bad as James but they do give the rifle a 50 round break in time. Mine took 200 rounds to break in and now it is fairly reliable. Accuracy is 2 MOA. It is a fun range toy but if you want something to depend your life on ger an AR.
Dear Olympus Arms, Ghosting James Reeves? Ya done messed up A-A-Ron.
"from Ryan to Hickok45" gave me a hearty chuckle
TFB's policy of giving a manufacturer one chance to fix any problems is fair, as no mfr has ever had a 100% perfect record - especially for a new product. It's not possible. Someone will get one of 1% defective products or one of 0.01%, but the number will never be zero and someone will be unlucky. That's why it's important to test your equipment before trusting it.
Good video, as always. To be fair, that appeared to be a two-line response to a one-line inquiry (10:07). I would try explaining that you do, in fact, have questions. What kind of ammo were you using?
Maybe PSA will buy the design and make it work in a few years.
I just bought a Falkor Petra that sends a larger round further with very little recoil, and I know it's a pretty penny but I really wanted it and saved up. This thing you're fighting with fails to cycle at a price $1200 more than my FerrARi was with a very nice case and shipping included!!
Might have an easier time cycling without the muzzle brake. Brakes push the barrel forward.
This made me want to re-watch the Turkish shotgun videos. Thanks for the honesty James.
The ghosting of JJ then the curt belated reply tells you everything you need to know about the folks at Olympus Arms and their $7K scam-o-matic rifle. A well deserved “default judgement” delivered by James Reeves, Esq.
Small caliber artillery thud rifle.
Failures aside, I still want one... of but for no other reason than it will likely be the only recoilless .308 of the century.
*Laughs in Remington model 8
Honestly, I wish someone big, like PSA, would bring a modernized version of that back. A little problem with the Rem Rimless cartridge line-up being non-existent today, but they could chamber it in something like 5.56 or .350 Legend.
@@shmuckling unfortunately I don’t think that’ll ever happen for a price even close to resembling “Affordable” it’s a pretty complex design to manufacture. But you can get originals in 300 savage if you’ve got a good eye for just under $1000
In slo-mo you can clearly see that the bolt and barrel doesn't separate at the end of the recoil travel, they go forward still together, hence the failure to extract.
In a long recoil action, that' should be mechanically impossible.
So, or the lever that locks the bolt at the end of the travel, ensuring separation, broke, or the bolt-barrel setup doesn't reach the end of the recoiling course. Because the rifle has some friction enhancer (like many long recoil actions, to reduce felt recoil. See the friction ring of the Auto-5) that, with thermal expansion, becomes too effective.
Thought this was gonna be about that long stroke piston AR10 thing, I forget who even makes it
PWS does. And they UXR. PSA has a .308 JAKL coming too. I was hoping a .308 BRN upper would show up too..
@@PureCountryof91the UXR is short stroke unfortunately. I love PWS. It’s all I run. But I was disappointed that the UXR is short stroke
@@DC-bk6ep i thought the UXR used a push stroke? Where the drive rod moves with the BCG until unlock.. well. If that's the case then my idea would actually be different
Good job JJ. This is my 6th favorite video with you
It’s a novel idea, but perhaps a shoulder fired rifle isn’t the best platform. Maybe a mounted medium machine gun could be a better application.
It's 100 years late as a MG, Chauchat already tried long recoil
@XenonLover52 - what?
@XenonLover52 - no. I'm shocked to learn that olympic arms has filed for bankruptcy. That is why the what
@6:27 "and it goes from Ryan to Hickok45 and it's back in action"🤣🤣🤣
LMAO....$7000 for a P.O.S.? They're nuts.
At least with an LMT, it actually works
They over engineered it to try to have their cake and eat it too. It's fundamentally complex and expensive. They should have eaten their failure to make it work but no one wants bankruptcy.
@@michaelbaker8284 there are also too many points of failure
James I really hope they listen to your advice and make the improvements needed to fix the issues.
$7000 of trash insane. 7k it better work out the box
At that price it should make you breakfast
For $7K it better come in a custom pelican case, with an optic, a suppressor and spare barrels...
I've got a 20" PSA Gen3 Ar10. Put a 3 vent comp on it and a 9 ounce buffer. Super smooth shooter. Tack driving SS heavy barrel. A heavy beast to tote. I'm used to heavy so I have a heavy-carry sling and an old swivel carry handle to break up the weight fatigue from long duration carry. I'm a poor, but beware threatening those under my protection.
With each shot you can see James getting more and more pissed off. Lol
Different smokes for different folks... I've tried this every year at SHOT and always disliked it, lol. Innovative? Maybe. Comfortable and smooth? Not at all for me.
3:39 After watching the full video and viewing James’ interaction with the company, this guy seems like a snakeoil salesman.
I was thinking the same thing. I'm not saying a moving barrel gun can't be accurate, but what he says goes against every principle of gun manufacturing of few moving parts leads to better mechanical accuracy.
But even talking about shooter accuracy, what he says about recoil throwing off shooters is just plain wrong.
The Johnson rifle and machine gun both had the same recoil system. They were pretty good rifles, Gun Jesus did videos on them in Forgotten Weapons.
Pfft, any AR-10 is no recoil if you don't fire it.
Dude this is so depressing i remember fhe other video you did of it and it looked so cool. I was like man if that action works that platform would be crazy awesome for the 308 or 6.5creedmoor. Imagine no recoil rifle like that with a 30round mag full of armor piercing incindiary 308 rounds man
Its not a mystery to get low recoil .308 and you don't need gimmicks: don't make it 5 pounds, tune the gas/buffer and get a decent brake
Muzzle brake important to counter secondary recoil, which is major contributor to felt recoil. It is a result of gasses from muzzle blast forming force pair with atmospheric gasses, thus pushing gun back, plus atmospheric gasses rushing into evacuated barrel after shot.
@papalegba6796 exhaust gasses hitting the atmosphere does not generate more recoil. In the same way rocket engines don't generate more thrust in an atmosphere
@@TurboTaco2JZ wrong.
@@TurboTaco2JZ how do you think muzzle brakes work? 🤔😂
@@papalegba6796 reread my comment. I didn't say the gasses don't contribute to recoil. Try again.
Great review , always.
My NEMO OMEN RECON in 300 win mag has even less recoil than this, far less actually, and it has a superb non-reciprocating Bartlien thick steel barrel to boot. I think it has much to do with NEMO's unique BCG design with an additional dampening spring at the rear that interfaces with the buffer tube assembly and delays bcg movement. Additionally, the titanium muzzle brake also substantially reduces recoil further. You really end up with a 300 win mag that feels like 556 or even smaller caliber. I Love it so much, that I actually plan to get another one with a longer barrel(Maybe the Watchman).
This post really got my attention. Going to research this firearm right now.
@@floorpizza8074 How's your research going friend?
@@kh503335 So I've looked at just about all the information on the internet I can find on Nemo, and in particular the Watchman model.
I was already convinced that I wanted one, but the conversation I had with my local gunshop owner today really pushed me over the edge. I was in the store paying for a new Smith Bodyguard 2.0, when I mentioned to the guy ringing me up that I'd been researching the Nemo Watchman. The owner of the shop overheard me, and came running out from the back.
I was worried about keeping them past quitting time, but the owner just wouldn't stop talking about how impressed he was with the entire Nemo line. He acted as the FFL for a buddy of his that wanted to purchase one. His buddy took him out shooting it several times. The owner of the gun shop ended up ordering one for himself as he was so impressed with it.
He said it is just unreal to be shooting full power 300 Winchester Magnum rounds and getting the soft tap to the shoulder of a 5.56. He said that other than the increased weight, you would swear that you were shooting a 5.56 AR-15. The conversation continued for quite a while, as he was quite enthusiastic about his rifle, but I'll cut him some slack, as we all know that feeling!
So yeah, thanks to your post, I'll be asking Santa Wife for one for Christmas. And an optic for my Birthday, and a suppressor for Fathers day, etc. etc. I was hoping to be able to use my SilencerCo Omega 36M on it, but apparently it's not really meant for rapid fire 300 win mag, and there is a muzzle brake/suppressor combo that is supposed to work even better with the Watchman. I had to cut the conversation off at the beginning of the suppressor discussion, so I'll be going back to talk to him about the brake/suppressor combo he recommends.
It's definitely going to be a while to get the rifle completely outfitted, as the cost of the rifle, optic, brake, and suppressor is going to put the total cost a bit north of $11k. So I'll just be starting with the rifle for now, as long as Santa Wife will spend that much money on me for Christmas. :)
Thank you so much for posting about this little gem!
Oh, forgot a bit of detail in what little time we had to talk about suppressors... He said something about a suppressor that either works with the Nemo factory brake, or that the suppressor company got the rights to use Nemo's brake design so that they could manufacture a brake that could be used as a quick mount for their can. The whole point being that they wanted to keep the effectiveness of Nemo's brake while being able to mount a suppressor.
I need to get some clarification on this from him.
OK, last reply... promise. : ) Maybe we can get TFB TV to do a review on one of the Nemo line? Preferably in a larger caliber.
Solid, thanks for the review. Customer service is HUGE.....When I pay a ton of money for something there shouldn't be any issues with it. IF there is, I expect customer service make a serious warm fuzzy
Guy running company himself if theyre responding 5-6 months later -- insult to injury
Bummer. You should review the CMMG Dissent MK3!
"Tender tactical toddler" ......I snorted. Trademark that phrase first thing Monday!
Yeah, that one got me good LMAO
Cringe
Too late buddy.
Tender Tactical Toddler® is mine.😂😂
Contrast this to a couple of years ago when Desert Tech had review gun go south with another channel. They actually worked with said channel to get it right.
Seems like a rifle trying to solve a problem that is not a problem...
This gun with a frt would have been a game changer
And became a problem.
@@SuperKinganthonylong recoil cycles very slowly, you can probably out run it in semi
A bolt action frt. LOL@@SuperKinganthony
@@Nathan-jh1ho yeah that makes sense. Basically black powder with that delay
1:19 Just more James Reeves gunsmithing
Knowing what I know about long recoil, before even watching I'm gonna guess there's reliability and accuracy issues.
Edit: LOL. LMFAO. Guess we'll have to wait until part 2 to find out it's not accurate.
Given the email story, IF we get a part 2.
Ima let u finish, but missionary is the greatest position of all time.
*reverse-cowgirl has entered the chat*
If you dont like missionary you are fat
@@theforcedmeme that is not a legitimate or recognized position by the international committee of positions certification branch. That is an outlaw position reserved for scoundrels, miscreants and people who like soccer and the metric system.
@@ironcityblueyou must be from the south. “You never turn your back on family!”
@@cjones070 did we just become best friends?