There is one more exciting feature that I haven't covered in this video, which is the Arri LOG C3 support! This is HUGE for people working in high end cine production. I will have another video to talk about that so please subscribe so you can come back to my channel when it's published. What do you guys think about this Panasonic Lumix GH7? I was sick last week, that's why my voice sounds quite strange and broken in this video. Sorry about that. I hope you guys can still enjoy this long video
i am VERY interested to see how the ArriLogC3 is implemented. I hope it's applied from the raw sensor data and not like a LUT converting VLog to ArriLogC3; cause i can do that in post 😂 Richard, I know it might be a crazy ask, but if you could some how test the GH7 against an Arri Alexa, that would be frickin amazing. Might as well intercut your talking head between the GH7 and the Alexa and ask us to guess the diff 😂😂😂😂
I am thinking: where is the GX8-II, where is the G90 mark II? Why do we have one quite low end cam (G100) and two very high-end flagship camera's (G9-II for photo and GH7 for video) with NOTHING in between? Gh7 is great for video users for sure, but Panasonic is a letdown for all enthusiast which at some point were their main audience (G1, G5, G6, G7, G90, GF1, GX8, GX9 etcetc).
GX9 is still sweet and if you paid attention you'd notice AFS is still DFD anyway :-) but there's a lot to love about this sensor even with severely limited video modes similar to the GX9 (which I have, also have GF1).
Thanks for the review... however I hope that soon I can do the ISO and dynamic range test for this new GH7, since the sensor seems completely new and different from the G9 II: in fact this one mounted on the GH7 is specified by the official website to be BSI type, while the one on the G9 II is not! Now it is to be understood whether this is a “mistake” by Panasonic or whether in fact they are two similar but different sensors!
haha you know what, i was thinking the same! Will cross check with your review and see if I missed anything important or got any different results than you!
No worries Glad you like it. I nearly gone crazy as I spent so many hours JUST editing the video as I keep spotting mistakes and new things I want to test/re-shoot/update . I thought I was never going to be able to finish this video
@@TheRealRichardWong Hehe. It is a lot to go through when making a video this long I’m sure and yes there’s always things to improve, but no worries-your efforts are appreciated. 😋
Too many people complaining about give me this give me that. The E-Stab abilities, faster auto focus and fan for continuous shooting with no risk for overheating should be enough to make people want this camera.
Excellent review! I think that it's worth mentioning that the Atomos Ninja V+ or Blackmagic VideoAssist 12G can record 5.7K 17:9 at 60 fps, or 5.8K 4:4 at 30 fps from the GH6 and GH7, so there are still use cases for the external recorder. Also, if you're a Resolve user then the BlackMagic VideoAssists will get you raw video that works with that ecosystem (I'm a Resolve user with investment in control surfaces etc, but I don't mind using FCP to do initial exposure/balance on ProRes RAW before exporting it in a log space). I've had really good luck with GH6+VideoAssist for cases where I can't physically access a camera that covers an important part of the venue during an event. In that case I pre-frame and leave the camera running unattended on a tripod (ideally with a remote setup so that I can pull focus and maybe tweak framing if it's on a gimbal). That setup has been rock solid for me out to 3+ hours of continuous recording, when connected to a monster 300 W-hr V-mount battery.
Thanks for the detailed video. Having owned G9, then the GH6 and now the G9ii it's good to see GH7 gets the pre-burst photo mode and improved audio. The new internal raw video will be welcome by pro videograhers I'm sure. As someone that likes to record wildlife video, I really wish subject detect auto focus on the G9ii worked on videos above 120FPS with 4K at 4:2:2 10 bit, so it's a shame GH7 doesn't work at 120FPS either. Come on Panasonic get this working! Also on the G9ii when the camera is in photo mode, 120FPS video recording modes are locked out out until you change the dial on the camera to video mode. Does the GH7 also have this same limitation?
the 120fps is same in photo mode. I think Panasoinc really don't expect people to use photo mode for serious video recording. I have a few discussions with them on similar topics and made a few suggestions on how they could improve the current interface. But for now, it is what it is, when you record video, you really should just use creative video mode if you want to have good control of it. Re 4k120 with subject detection, I think it's processor limited.
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks for your reply. Personally I tend to take photos first (get them in bag) and if the subject hangs arround, turn the dial to my custom video preset (120FS 4K HLG) then record video. Then I turn the dial back again to my custom photo mode (and potentially alter and re-save any photo settings changes to the custom slot). Pressing the video record button in camera mode would definitely be more convenient and I'm less likely to miss the action or mess up my photo settings switching between custom presets. Glad to hear Panasonic are cosidering options, cheers!
Oh music is really the most tricky part. I need it to mask the distracting background noise ..etc but always can't get it quite right. Glad you like it
Great review Does it have AF Scope for fn buttons? They omitted that in the GH6. Any other smart segmenting decisions like no pre-buffer, no live composite, etc? Lumix went best to worst in that. 4k60 Anamorphic is probably still cropped as on G9 II. So GH5S is still relevant for uncropped 4k60 4:3 ... At least USB-Streaming finally made it onto the flagship.
Hi and thank you for tour review ! How long it take to write all the 75fps when you shoot raw to complete the save to the cf express B ? i can't find this in your review 35:18 And can you shoot again when the files is in write like sony system or you need to wait until the end of the writing on the cf express B ? Thank you for your answer
thanks for the review. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BUFFER WRITE OUT or clear SPEEDS? the G9ii apparently needs up to 1 minute to clear buffer, often locking shooting new images entirely. Does the GH7 improve that time and problem with ONLY a cf express type b card inserted for max/raw and (afaik) max/regular 20fps shooting and a filled 200-shot, 8GB buffer?
You seems to have goodcontact with Panasonic, Please ask them to implement BRAW internal recording in the GH7 too. And also in the S5iix for that matter.
Thanks Richard for this test.I use little panasonic cams for tours ect.I hope for a gx 10.But the GH7 is also a nice camera . I'am from germany and your english is from all tests from the youtube channel easy to understand.it is the kind of your talk,slowly and clearly. Thank you for your work. Best regards from germany.
I highly appreciate the product reviews of the Lumix from this channel because since the Lumix S5II, I have to be more cautious in choosing products from camera manufacturers. However, one issue that needs to be improved by the manufacturer is the ability to use flash to take photos, still requiring a constant preview to quickly anticipate changes in the environment's lighting in complex lighting conditions and apply it with flash to produce the desired photo. Other camera manufacturers such as Nikon, Sony, and Fuji have recognized this issue and have made changes. As for Canon, we can temporarily address it by using tape to cover the extra contact pins, leaving only the central contact pin for the flash to enable live view effect (exposure simulation). I hope Panasonic listens to users and improves on it.
Thanks for the great review. I felt a little burnt by the GH6, but the GH7 seams to correct most of my issues. I noticed on the GH6 that auto ISO steps in video. It is not a smooth transition to high and low isos like my Canons. This is very annoying and I wounder it is user error on my part. If you shoot manual video with auto-iso, are the iso changes stepped or smooth with the GH7?
I've returned the GH7 to Panasonic already, but just playing with the GH6, ISO does jump but i notice the footage actually seem to transition smoothly when going dark-> bright or vice versa. I even tried play it back frame by frame and it seems the transition is quite smooth? I don't recall there is any special settings for it. But maybe if other viewer know a bit more, please help :)
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks for the reply. The funny thing is that I never really tested the actual footage! I saw the transition on the back of the camera, decided it was unacceptable for my work and shot manual scenes without much change in exposure. I sold my GH6 and ordered the GH7. The canons are nice, but once to get use to histogram, level in viewfinder, full size HDMI and all the customizable button (even the "near focus" feature is great-which I didn't think I needed with canon's awesome AF but have had a lot of situation when with would have help). If the ISO transitions in the playback are smooth, I am going to feel really stupid for not looking into this more closely!
Richer cool review! The question is simply: is it possible to power an on-camera monitor 5-17 V DC in for Osee T5+ from a usb s desk? Well, to be honest, the only feature I was waiting for from the GH7 was replacing HDMI with a USB-c display port. I don’t understand why we need external monitors when we could connect smartphones!The only thing the GH7 lacks is false colors like on OSee!
thanks! I think most filmmakers would like to use a proper monitor that is larger than our phone screen so HDMI is still most important for professional workflow. I don't think the camera's USB port can power other devices.
VERY important limitation when recording in 32 bit float is that you only have REC sound as an option for Sound Output to monitor the audio. The REALTIME option is not available which creates a very annoying delay / echo in the headphones Panasonic HAS to solve this via firmware... as it makes basically monitoring (specially dialogue) impossible, and thus, removing a lot of interest to 32 bit float recording
@@TheRealRichardWong I don't know how I missed it. 😅 Thanks a lot for confirming. One more question. You mention the EIS High crop is about 1.3 to 1.4x at 1:02:02 . The G9ii "only" had a 1.25x crop in EIS high. Did they actually change the crop in amount?
Thank you very much for your review. Can you tell something about the noise behaviour / low light capability in video mode with V-Log? Is it comparable with the GH6 (which was rather noisy, surprisingly at low ISO's) or has something improved there?
Great video, very informative and in depth. You spoke a bit about the C4K RAW recording - could you please tell me what the data rates are for C4K Prores RAW & C4K ProRes RAW HQ? I also have a 2 TB Samsung SSD and a 2 TB CFExpress Card -- how long record time would I have in C4K RAW on the GH7 using these cards?
Sometimes you don't need full size video like when posting on social media. It can also be useful when video editing as full size video can be too slow for some computers.
1:18:34 any chance of a high res copy of the R34 pic and any other car pics you took while there? Can bring an SD card or usb storage device and meet you somewhere or pull from drop box or syncthing or a server or whatever. Car nut even more than camera nut here :-)
Besides all the picture quality updates, for me is the new autofocus and the stabilisation important. If you travel A gimbal can be a pain in the ass. Handheld is the goal, fast lens change, lightweight
Hi Richard @TheRealRichardWong Thanks for the detailed review! But I have a question, In your video you indicated that it in the "XLR + Camera" mode that it isn't possible to record 4 channels at 2496 But on the Panasonic website under the specs for the GH7 it seems to indicate that it is possible: "MOV Linear format: LPCM (4ch monaural 48kHz/24-bit, 96kHz/24-bit**) *When attaching DMW-XLR2 (sold separately). **When attaching Φ3.5mm microphone or DMW-XLR2 (sold separately)." Is it or is it not possible? Could your camera have outdated formware version? Thanks Bill
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks for checking. Too bad, because I'd rather do 4 channels of 2496 (as I currently can do on my GH6) than 32bit float. I have a Sonosax SX-M2D2 with an excellent limiter so no worries about clipping.
Thank you for this detailed review! I have a question: you mentioned the loss of subject detection when filming in 5.7k when a HDMI device is plugged in. Is this also true when sending a RAW video signal over HDMI and recording 5.7k externally, or only when recording 5.7k internally/to a SSD? Thanks!
@@TheRealRichardWong Hi, I’m considering picking up a G9II. Do you happen to know if it also experiences this loss of subject detection at 5.7k when an HDMI device is plugged in? Thanks!
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks for replying. At 1:15:10, you say the sensor has more resolution than 4k or full HD. And, it would not affect image quality too much. Curious as to how/why that is on the crop zoom feature. I appreciate the response.
@@od628 The crop zoom feature basically capture video using a smaller area of the sensor, similar to what digital zoom do. But when you record normal 4k video, it's actually doing something called super sampling, the camera captures higher than 4k resolution video from the full size sensor and then downsize to 4k which gives better quality video. So when crop zoom is enabled, camera would capture the video from smaller than full size. But since full sensor is quite a bit more than 4k. so even if we use a bit smaller sensor area and the sensor still can give more than 4k resolutiion. Hope it make sense, sorry it can be a bit confusing
@@TheRealRichardWong thank you very much for taking the time to explain that. I greatly appreciate it. One last question, can crop zoom be used in pixel to pixel mode in 4k? Thanks again!
If I purchase the DMW-XLR2 will it allow 32 bit recording for the S5iix or does Lumix/Panasonic have to create firmware to allow 32 bit audio for S5iix?
@@TheRealRichardWong thanks for the quick reply. I guess I will keep my fingers crossed for the S5ii(x). That 32 bit audio is a game changer for the camera world
i just bought gh7 and i am very disapointed that lumix removed almost all 4.3 modes. there are only 5.7k and a 4.4 pixel to pixel! mode which mean its not downsampled from 5.7 k but just cropped in which means reduced quality . ther is no real 4k 4.3 mode anymore i used with my gh5 all the time... i hope lumix will fix this with firmware updates
Oh sorry to hear that. I wonder what is the reason you need 4k 4:3 mode? I have never used that mode myself before, always use full resolution open gate so would love to hear what is your workflow/usage.
4.3 is the look i want. When i do my boudoir videos i welcome the extra space up and down as wel you waste a lot of space on the left and to the right if you film a model closeup and you want her whole body in the frame. If i dont have 4.3 open gate i need a wider lense then i use now which can giv more distortion. I use social media a lot as well. 16.9 is very bad for social media l@@TheRealRichardWong
@@TheRealRichardWong5.7k 50 is 17.9 the framing in 17.9 is even worse than in 16.9 its super wide with not much height. You could shoot vertically but then you get a very narrow image i dont want. 4.3 is perfect for what i do. Very versatile and useful for everything
I'm not sure. I checked with all the information I received, there is no mention of XLR1 support at all. I will update you if i got a solid yes/no from my contacts.
@@TheRealRichardWong I have the Xlr1 from my previews gh5... now that I am considering the upgrade to the gh7,,, i wonder this... it seems possible to me,,, yet panasonics could have locked the feature only to work with the new adapter... let me know if you have other news, thank you!
haven't finished your video but gonna say i'm very excited about arri log c3!! if it's taking the RAW 12bit color data and writing that into arri logc3, that would be amazingggggggggggggg truly hope it's not just color transforming vlog colors and just color transforming it to arrilogc3 in a LUT.
@@DuyTran-hy2kx oh nice. I didn't know that! i just assumed it was 12bit cause I remember someone pointing out that the raw photos from these lumix cameras were 12bit in a 14bit file. So i assumed the full color bit depth of the sensor was 12bit. But hell yeah, would be nice if lumix worked with arri to process 16bits of sensor color information directly through ARRI's color science into a legal ArriLogC3 profile. 😍 exciting. might just get one.
Yes I want that too. Even though it could mean adding more size to the camera. And also you would still need XLR adaptor for the best audio quality from a XLR input.
Does the new xlr 2 adapter with the 3.5mm jack work on GH5 and GH6? Great review btw. GH7 looks like a fantastic camera, but in AUD / NZD it's a big purchase.
It's not "cheap" but there is no other camera in the market that can provide all these features at similar price or even double the price. the XLR2 doesn't work on the GH6, not with the current firmware at least
For me the G9II does everything I need. Now if Lumix offers the extra trade in bonus like they did with the G9II ($500) I might trade in again and get the GH7.
Long time GH user so excited, but some questions: 1. Are there any restrictions on SSD usage this time around like there were for G9II? 2. Autofocus: is the AF the same as G9II or have they made other improvements (besides the train/plane AF). I tried out the G9II for recording some martial arts competitions. I found that autofocus was good but it would lose people when they turned around/moved around too rapidly. th-cam.com/video/m6pQKU8im6Y/w-d-xo.html
1.There is, i believe with just the normal battery, recording is up to 60fps. However if you use the new USB-C dummy battery with 9V 3A PD power, then I believe there is no restriction. However Panasonic has not sent me that new dummy battery for me to try/test 2. I have not done side by side testing so I cant answer for sure. However, I watched your video, it seems to be a really challenging scene for subject detection because of the busy background, fast movement, subject not facing the camera..etc I feel even my Sony would not be able to follow the subject 100%. I would suggest playaround with some AF settings instead like rely on area detection rather than subject detection, or decrease the sensitivity
@@TheRealRichardWong: Thanks for the response! 1. Great to know, looking forward to the updates on this. I would love to do an SSD setup on this 2. Yeah, I ultimately went with Area Detection later on. This was definitely a case of pushing it to see what it could do.
I found it on Lumix Japan website panasonic.jp/dc/p-db/DMW-DCC18.html According to this page, it will be available in Japan from 20th June. I have not heard any info re GH6/S5II. I heard S9 is officially supported
@@TheRealRichardWong appreciate the info, I'm on the US, and I would believe it has to be compatible with previous models because its the same battery.
@@AndyLSB Yes i would guess so too. But without officially confirmation, i just don't want to say yes publicly here in case it doesn't for whatever reasons
There is one more exciting feature that I haven't covered in this video, which is the Arri LOG C3 support! This is HUGE for people working in high end cine production. I will have another video to talk about that so please subscribe so you can come back to my channel when it's published.
What do you guys think about this Panasonic Lumix GH7? I was sick last week, that's why my voice sounds quite strange and broken in this video. Sorry about that. I hope you guys can still enjoy this long video
Hi Richard do you know what the sensor readout would be in pixel in pixel? Would it be faster than any of the other settings?
i am VERY interested to see how the ArriLogC3 is implemented. I hope it's applied from the raw sensor data and not like a LUT converting VLog to ArriLogC3; cause i can do that in post 😂
Richard, I know it might be a crazy ask, but if you could some how test the GH7 against an Arri Alexa, that would be frickin amazing. Might as well intercut your talking head between the GH7 and the Alexa and ask us to guess the diff 😂😂😂😂
I am thinking: where is the GX8-II, where is the G90 mark II? Why do we have one quite low end cam (G100) and two very high-end flagship camera's (G9-II for photo and GH7 for video) with NOTHING in between? Gh7 is great for video users for sure, but Panasonic is a letdown for all enthusiast which at some point were their main audience (G1, G5, G6, G7, G90, GF1, GX8, GX9 etcetc).
GX9 is still sweet and if you paid attention you'd notice AFS is still DFD anyway :-) but there's a lot to love about this sensor even with severely limited video modes similar to the GX9 (which I have, also have GF1).
Thanks for the review... however I hope that soon I can do the ISO and dynamic range test for this new GH7, since the sensor seems completely new and different from the G9 II: in fact this one mounted on the GH7 is specified by the official website to be BSI type, while the one on the G9 II is not! Now it is to be understood whether this is a “mistake” by Panasonic or whether in fact they are two similar but different sensors!
Looking forward to watching this fully and seeing if I missed anything!
haha you know what, i was thinking the same! Will cross check with your review and see if I missed anything important or got any different results than you!
Both of you are great at what you do. I enjoy both channels and I love that each of you has a unique approach that stands apart.
Same! :)
Reallllly appreciate your in-depth videos like this! Super helpful; thank you for making them. ^_^
No worries Glad you like it. I nearly gone crazy as I spent so many hours JUST editing the video as I keep spotting mistakes and new things I want to test/re-shoot/update . I thought I was never going to be able to finish this video
@@TheRealRichardWong Hehe. It is a lot to go through when making a video this long I’m sure and yes there’s always things to improve, but no worries-your efforts are appreciated. 😋
Too many people complaining about give me this give me that. The E-Stab abilities, faster auto focus and fan for continuous shooting with no risk for overheating should be enough to make people want this camera.
It's you and Gordon for the reviews. Much appreciate your time and effort!
Thank you! Yes Gordon's reviews are always great !!
Thanks!
Fantastic and thorough review, thank you so much for putting in all the work!
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent review!
I think that it's worth mentioning that the Atomos Ninja V+ or Blackmagic VideoAssist 12G can record 5.7K 17:9 at 60 fps, or 5.8K 4:4 at 30 fps from the GH6 and GH7, so there are still use cases for the external recorder. Also, if you're a Resolve user then the BlackMagic VideoAssists will get you raw video that works with that ecosystem (I'm a Resolve user with investment in control surfaces etc, but I don't mind using FCP to do initial exposure/balance on ProRes RAW before exporting it in a log space).
I've had really good luck with GH6+VideoAssist for cases where I can't physically access a camera that covers an important part of the venue during an event. In that case I pre-frame and leave the camera running unattended on a tripod (ideally with a remote setup so that I can pull focus and maybe tweak framing if it's on a gimbal). That setup has been rock solid for me out to 3+ hours of continuous recording, when connected to a monster 300 W-hr V-mount battery.
Good points about external recorders! Thanks for sharing
Great work, Richard!
Thank you so much Hugh!!
What a monster of a review! Thank you for compiling all of this. Incredible, a GH7 Textbook ❤
Thank you very much!
Thanks for the detailed video. Having owned G9, then the GH6 and now the G9ii it's good to see GH7 gets the pre-burst photo mode and improved audio. The new internal raw video will be welcome by pro videograhers I'm sure. As someone that likes to record wildlife video, I really wish subject detect auto focus on the G9ii worked on videos above 120FPS with 4K at 4:2:2 10 bit, so it's a shame GH7 doesn't work at 120FPS either. Come on Panasonic get this working! Also on the G9ii when the camera is in photo mode, 120FPS video recording modes are locked out out until you change the dial on the camera to video mode. Does the GH7 also have this same limitation?
the 120fps is same in photo mode. I think Panasoinc really don't expect people to use photo mode for serious video recording. I have a few discussions with them on similar topics and made a few suggestions on how they could improve the current interface. But for now, it is what it is, when you record video, you really should just use creative video mode if you want to have good control of it.
Re 4k120 with subject detection, I think it's processor limited.
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks for your reply. Personally I tend to take photos first (get them in bag) and if the subject hangs arround, turn the dial to my custom video preset (120FS 4K HLG) then record video. Then I turn the dial back again to my custom photo mode (and potentially alter and re-save any photo settings changes to the custom slot). Pressing the video record button in camera mode would definitely be more convenient and I'm less likely to miss the action or mess up my photo settings switching between custom presets. Glad to hear Panasonic are cosidering options, cheers!
Thanks!
oh thank you so much for that Sam!!
Much, much respect for such an in-depth review! And again, in a relatively short space of time. Thanks Richard! I’ll probably put in a pre-order
Thank you I hope you found this review useful
Excellent review Richard, thank you for all the hard work and detailed research you have done.
Thank you very much Dennis
Awesome Richard. I have been looking for this all day. Excellent. The longer the better. Looking forward.
Thank you so much
Great detailed review! Lovely music at the correct volume. You've nailed it.
Oh music is really the most tricky part. I need it to mask the distracting background noise ..etc but always can't get it quite right. Glad you like it
Your reviews go the extra mile, Great evening watching when I'm relaxing before bed. Comment for the algorithm!
oh you are the best! I guess the length of my review can help you fall asleep as well :)
Awesome work, as always. Congrats!
I can tell you put a lot of work into your videos. I'm surprised all the improvements they added to GH7. I want one!
thank you, glad you enjoy the video.
your videos are the beat reviews on TH-cam, congratulations!
thank you so much!
Great review
Does it have AF Scope for fn buttons?
They omitted that in the GH6. Any other smart segmenting decisions like no pre-buffer, no live composite, etc?
Lumix went best to worst in that.
4k60 Anamorphic is probably still cropped as on G9 II.
So GH5S is still relevant for uncropped 4k60 4:3 ...
At least USB-Streaming finally made it onto the flagship.
Thanks Richard, your videos are always so helpful in choosing whether to upgrade or not.
thank you very much :)
Thank you for making perfect review, Richard!! Really happy to watch this review, love the specs of GH7, this is what i want,I will make a pre-order:)
Enjoy your gh7
Hi and thank you for tour review !
How long it take to write all the 75fps when you shoot raw to complete the save to the cf express B ? i can't find this in your review 35:18
And can you shoot again when the files is in write like sony system or you need to wait until the end of the writing on the cf express B ?
Thank you for your answer
thanks for the review. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BUFFER WRITE OUT or clear SPEEDS? the G9ii apparently needs up to 1 minute to clear buffer, often locking shooting new images entirely. Does the GH7 improve that time and problem with ONLY a cf express type b card inserted for max/raw and (afaik) max/regular 20fps shooting and a filled 200-shot, 8GB buffer?
You seems to have goodcontact with Panasonic,
Please ask them to implement BRAW internal recording in the GH7 too. And also in the S5iix for that matter.
Thanks Richard for this test.I use little panasonic cams for tours ect.I hope for a gx 10.But the GH7 is also a nice camera .
I'am from germany and your english is from all tests from the youtube channel easy to understand.it is the kind of your talk,slowly and clearly.
Thank you for your work.
Best regards from germany.
Thank you so much! I always worried my English (which is my 2nd or 3rd language) is hard to understand. Glad to hear your feedback
There is never a more thorough review than a Richard Wong review!
Oh thank you so much
Thank you so much for another video!
I highly appreciate the product reviews of the Lumix from this channel because since the Lumix S5II, I have to be more cautious in choosing products from camera manufacturers. However, one issue that needs to be improved by the manufacturer is the ability to use flash to take photos, still requiring a constant preview to quickly anticipate changes in the environment's lighting in complex lighting conditions and apply it with flash to produce the desired photo. Other camera manufacturers such as Nikon, Sony, and Fuji have recognized this issue and have made changes. As for Canon, we can temporarily address it by using tape to cover the extra contact pins, leaving only the central contact pin for the flash to enable live view effect (exposure simulation). I hope Panasonic listens to users and improves on it.
Maybe suggest that to Sean at one of the Lumix Live livestream?
amazing as always!!! ❤
Great review as always Richard. thanks
Thank you very much Jim
Thanks for the great review, Wong. I'd like to know how is Arri log working in GH7, look forward to your next review.
You just earned a subscriber, thank you for this outstanding & detailed review
Awesome, thank you!
Awesome work, Richard! 👏
thank you Shane!
Thank you for your detailed video, Richard !
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the great review. I felt a little burnt by the GH6, but the GH7 seams to correct most of my issues. I noticed on the GH6 that auto ISO steps in video. It is not a smooth transition to high and low isos like my Canons. This is very annoying and I wounder it is user error on my part. If you shoot manual video with auto-iso, are the iso changes stepped or smooth with the GH7?
I've returned the GH7 to Panasonic already, but just playing with the GH6, ISO does jump but i notice the footage actually seem to transition smoothly when going dark-> bright or vice versa.
I even tried play it back frame by frame and it seems the transition is quite smooth?
I don't recall there is any special settings for it. But maybe if other viewer know a bit more, please help :)
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks for the reply. The funny thing is that I never really tested the actual footage! I saw the transition on the back of the camera, decided it was unacceptable for my work and shot manual scenes without much change in exposure. I sold my GH6 and ordered the GH7. The canons are nice, but once to get use to histogram, level in viewfinder, full size HDMI and all the customizable button (even the "near focus" feature is great-which I didn't think I needed with canon's awesome AF but have had a lot of situation when with would have help). If the ISO transitions in the playback are smooth, I am going to feel really stupid for not looking into this more closely!
May i know is any Arri LogC3 review and compare with Arri shoot LogC3 natively ?
haha i need to find an Arri Alexa first
Thanks Richard! Comprehensive and awesome review, as always! 💯☑
thank you so much Pete!
Great review! Respect!!!
Thank you very much
Fabulous work Richard, thank you
thank you Eric!
I really like to now more about the arri log... is really that good to have?
It's useful only if you are working in high end video production or interested in getting into that
the GH7 with E-Stab (High) is unreal, it's close to a gimbal performance with just a little bit of post stabilisation
Nice to see the yellow t-shirt getting more exposure!
Haha that matches my style perfectly, almost like you designed that specially for me Gordon!
EXCELLENT Review!! Thank you so much…
Glad you enjoyed it!
Richards new Feature Documentary is out!!! 🎬 Ah that tease at the end!! 😂 Looking fwd to your (Micro) M43 compact camera video 😅
Thanks Ben! You skip to the end first obviously LOL
@@TheRealRichardWong Haha! I admit I did jump around a bit! But will dive back in when I have more time!
perfect review. thank you!
Incredible video details. You are the first!!
Congratulations 💯💯
thank you!
Richer cool review! The question is simply: is it possible to power an on-camera monitor 5-17 V DC in for Osee T5+ from a usb s desk? Well, to be honest, the only feature I was waiting for from the GH7 was replacing HDMI with a USB-c display port. I don’t understand why we need external monitors when we could connect smartphones!The only thing the GH7 lacks is false colors like on OSee!
thanks! I think most filmmakers would like to use a proper monitor that is larger than our phone screen so HDMI is still most important for professional workflow. I don't think the camera's USB port can power other devices.
VERY important limitation when recording in 32 bit float is that you only have REC sound as an option for Sound Output to monitor the audio. The REALTIME option is not available which creates a very annoying delay / echo in the headphones Panasonic HAS to solve this via firmware... as it makes basically monitoring (specially dialogue) impossible, and thus, removing a lot of interest to 32 bit float recording
Does AFC work in FHD 240p and does subject detection work in 4k 120p? Otherwise, seems like an incredibly thorough review once again!
I actually said it in my review, but without asking you to look for the answer, the answer is NO and NO.
@@TheRealRichardWong I don't know how I missed it. 😅 Thanks a lot for confirming. One more question. You mention the EIS High crop is about 1.3 to 1.4x at 1:02:02 . The G9ii "only" had a 1.25x crop in EIS high. Did they actually change the crop in amount?
interesting, i'm not sure. I would guess no, maybe i measured it wrong?
Great review!
excellent review!
Excellent, you are a perfect teacher ! Thanks a lot Richard !
Many thanks HybridePassion!
So in-depth, thanks!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you very much for your review. Can you tell something about the noise behaviour / low light capability in video mode with V-Log? Is it comparable with the GH6 (which was rather noisy, surprisingly at low ISO's) or has something improved there?
Can I ask where you got your spacer from?
Great video, very informative and in depth. You spoke a bit about the C4K RAW recording - could you please tell me what the data rates are for C4K Prores RAW & C4K ProRes RAW HQ? I also have a 2 TB Samsung SSD and a 2 TB CFExpress Card -- how long record time would I have in C4K RAW on the GH7 using these cards?
Thanks for the info.
What advantage do "proxy" files have, other than i guess, size (?) You don't lose quality when you render / export ?
Sometimes you don't need full size video like when posting on social media. It can also be useful when video editing as full size video can be too slow for some computers.
Dude, the IBIS performance is insane!
indeed
Can you have a cage and still fit the xlr adapter with a top handle?
I hope price for G9ii will go down
Hello Richard, is it possible to combine focus bracketing with the high res mode?
Sorry i have returned the GH7 so i can't check and answer your question
Thank you a lot for great review! 🎉
My pleasure!
Another great video! Please can you test the buffer clearance speed on the GH7 vs G9II. I imagine the GH7 is quicker with the CF Express card.
that's a good suggestion! Unfortunately I've already returned the camera to Panasonic so can't really test it :(
Great review. Thank you very much! I'll be buying the GH7.
Enjoy!
The last chapters are not "time coded" in the description of your video. Last one is "Ibis" 😉
And as always, excellent video to watch! 😊
Thanks for that! I've fixed it now. TH-cam doesn't like anything > 60minutes
1:18:34 any chance of a high res copy of the R34 pic and any other car pics you took while there? Can bring an SD card or usb storage device and meet you somewhere or pull from drop box or syncthing or a server or whatever. Car nut even more than camera nut here :-)
Send me your email adress i see what I can find and email you. I don't think i have that many photos.
Besides all the picture quality updates, for me is the new autofocus and the stabilisation important. If you travel A gimbal can be a pain in the ass. Handheld is the goal, fast lens change, lightweight
Yes for sure! However, the 32bit float audio is the most important improvement for me.
Does the GH6 receive external timecode through fresh?🤔
King Richard returns again for another great review!
Richard, does the nose tapping affect the AF selection point using the rear screen?
If you don't enable touch AF then it's fine
Hi Richard @TheRealRichardWong
Thanks for the detailed review!
But I have a question, In your video you indicated that it in the "XLR + Camera" mode that it isn't possible to record 4 channels at 2496
But on the Panasonic website under the specs for the GH7 it seems to indicate that it is possible:
"MOV
Linear format: LPCM (4ch monaural 48kHz/24-bit, 96kHz/24-bit**)
*When attaching DMW-XLR2 (sold separately). **When attaching Φ3.5mm microphone or DMW-XLR2 (sold separately)."
Is it or is it not possible? Could your camera have outdated formware version?
Thanks
Bill
I can't get that to work. But i feel the spec could mean:
4ch monaural 48kHz/24-bit
or 96kHz/24-bit
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks for checking. Too bad, because I'd rather do 4 channels of 2496 (as I currently can do on my GH6) than 32bit float. I have a Sonosax SX-M2D2 with an excellent limiter so no worries about clipping.
Very nice in-depth review 👍
thank you!
Thank you for this detailed review! I have a question: you mentioned the loss of subject detection when filming in 5.7k when a HDMI device is plugged in. Is this also true when sending a RAW video signal over HDMI and recording 5.7k externally, or only when recording 5.7k internally/to a SSD? Thanks!
The subject detection disabled (or disappeared) as soon as I plug in any HDMI device
@@TheRealRichardWong Thank you for the answer!
@@TheRealRichardWong Hi, I’m considering picking up a G9II. Do you happen to know if it also experiences this loss of subject detection at 5.7k when an HDMI device is plugged in? Thanks!
How about buffer for shot with CFexpress and SD cards?
Great review! Regarding the crop zoom, why is it that there is more resolution in video mode?
Hi there thanks for watching! Do you mind explaining your question a bit more sorry not sure if I understand it correctly
@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks for replying. At 1:15:10, you say the sensor has more resolution than 4k or full HD. And, it would not affect image quality too much. Curious as to how/why that is on the crop zoom feature. I appreciate the response.
@@od628 The crop zoom feature basically capture video using a smaller area of the sensor, similar to what digital zoom do. But when you record normal 4k video, it's actually doing something called super sampling, the camera captures higher than 4k resolution video from the full size sensor and then downsize to 4k which gives better quality video.
So when crop zoom is enabled, camera would capture the video from smaller than
full size. But since full sensor is quite a bit more than 4k. so even if we use a bit smaller sensor area and the sensor still can give more than 4k resolutiion.
Hope it make sense, sorry it can be a bit confusing
@@TheRealRichardWong thank you very much for taking the time to explain that. I greatly appreciate it. One last question, can crop zoom be used in pixel to pixel mode in 4k? Thanks again!
@@od628 oh this one I am not sure, I haven't try that and I have already returned the camera to Panasonic sorry
If I purchase the DMW-XLR2 will it allow 32 bit recording for the S5iix or does Lumix/Panasonic have to create firmware to allow 32 bit audio for S5iix?
Yes , the camera need to support it. So if the hardware can do it, still need new firmware
@@TheRealRichardWong thanks for the quick reply. I guess I will keep my fingers crossed for the S5ii(x). That 32 bit audio is a game changer for the camera world
yes it is definitely! I care about it a lot more than internal ProRes RAW
I have just tested it on a S5II and a GH6, none of these cameras recognise the XLR2 with the current firmware I have
Great review - thanks 👍🏻
thank you Mark!
Is the still photo quality(especially high ISO) same as of GH6/G9II?
Thank Richard!nice review
thank you @Jdtstudio
Have you done any rolling shutter tests?
Yes it's pretty much the same as the g9ii. So it's really good for a non stacked sensor
i just bought gh7 and i am very disapointed that lumix removed almost all 4.3 modes. there are only 5.7k and a 4.4 pixel to pixel! mode which mean its not downsampled from 5.7 k but just cropped in which means reduced quality . ther is no real 4k 4.3 mode anymore i used with my gh5 all the time... i hope lumix will fix this with firmware updates
Oh sorry to hear that. I wonder what is the reason you need 4k 4:3 mode? I have never used that mode myself before, always use full resolution open gate so would love to hear what is your workflow/usage.
@@TheRealRichardWong open gate is 4.3 in mft cameras😸. I do client work and social media so 4.3 open gate is best for me
yeah sorry what i mean is why you don't want to use the 5.7k 4:3? there is more resolution and it's no crop. Is it because of the extra storage space?
4.3 is the look i want. When i do my boudoir videos i welcome the extra space up and down as wel you waste a lot of space on the left and to the right if you film a model closeup and you want her whole body in the frame. If i dont have 4.3 open gate i need a wider lense then i use now which can giv more distortion. I use social media a lot as well. 16.9 is very bad for social media l@@TheRealRichardWong
@@TheRealRichardWong5.7k 50 is 17.9 the framing in 17.9 is even worse than in 16.9 its super wide with not much height. You could shoot vertically but then you get a very narrow image i dont want. 4.3 is perfect for what i do. Very versatile and useful for everything
Great video! Where'd you get that spacer for the Synco?
I was going to get it from local shops but no one has it in stock. So end up I ordered it from Aliexpress
@@TheRealRichardWong What's it called? Is it made as a spacer for shotgun mounts or something else?
@@karllautman search "microphone spacer" you should be able to find them :)
Better image quality than Panasonic au eva1?
what about recording in the Gh7 with the FirstGen Adapter XL1... >?
I'm not sure. I checked with all the information I received, there is no mention of XLR1 support at all. I will update you if i got a solid yes/no from my contacts.
@@TheRealRichardWong I have the Xlr1 from my previews gh5... now that I am considering the upgrade to the gh7,,, i wonder this... it seems possible to me,,, yet panasonics could have locked the feature only to work with the new adapter... let me know if you have other news, thank you!
@@victorcarrera7335 yes will do. i will check with a few other contacts as well and see i got any confirmation from any of them.
okay i got reply from Panasonic, they told me XLR1 is compatible with GH7
Wow, nice review, Does it have the timecode in port like in the GH5s? How the timecode menu options?
It should be the same as GH6. To be honest i haven't test that myself
Will any of the new GH7 come to the S5II series?
Is the new audio XLR adapter compatible with S5II?
I was not told anything. I would love to know too. But I think if it's technically possible , then Lumix would do it
I'm curious if Arri log c-3 is able to come to s5iix.
Not sure, we will have to wait and see.
Is there a jack to plug in remote control for a flash?
there is a Flash Synchro Socket on the camera body. You could of course also use wireless hotshoe remote triggers like the Godox trigger
haven't finished your video but gonna say i'm very excited about arri log c3!!
if it's taking the RAW 12bit color data and writing that into arri logc3, that would be amazingggggggggggggg
truly hope it's not just color transforming vlog colors and just color transforming it to arrilogc3 in a LUT.
Dual Gain Architecture is 16 bit RAW Data not 12 bit
@@DuyTran-hy2kx oh nice. I didn't know that! i just assumed it was 12bit cause I remember someone pointing out that the raw photos from these lumix cameras were 12bit in a 14bit file.
So i assumed the full color bit depth of the sensor was 12bit. But hell yeah, would be nice if lumix worked with arri to process 16bits of sensor color information directly through ARRI's color science into a legal ArriLogC3 profile. 😍
exciting. might just get one.
Richard. I wanted to ask. Can a person use the XLR2 on other Cameras like my GH9ii and GH6?
I just tried on G9II and GH6, with the current firmware I have, it does NOT work at all
Can we record 4 mono tracks using 3-XLR ports 1-3.5mm port on Camera? Basically, I mean 2 shotgun mics and 2 lav mic with 2 receiver?
There are 2 XLR ports and 1 3.5mm port on the XLR2 adaptor. That's the maximum number of input source you can use at the same time.
The 3.5mm port on the camera cannot record in 32 bit float. But the 3.5mm port on the XLR2 can
Hi Richard
Do you recommend Sony FX3 £2800 or GH7 with XLR adapter?
Sorry I can't answer as I haven't got a chance to do extensive test with the fx3 myself
Thanks for doing this review you are awesome 👍 I do wish they would have made 32bit float internal maybe the gh8?
Yes I want that too. Even though it could mean adding more size to the camera. And also you would still need XLR adaptor for the best audio quality from a XLR input.
I better get news about S5iix getting 32bit float and pro res raw update soon or I'm selling
Does the new xlr 2 adapter with the 3.5mm jack work on GH5 and GH6? Great review btw. GH7 looks like a fantastic camera, but in AUD / NZD it's a big purchase.
It's not "cheap" but there is no other camera in the market that can provide all these features at similar price or even double the price.
the XLR2 doesn't work on the GH6, not with the current firmware at least
Mr. Wong великолепная работа! Спасибо за Ваш труд!
thank you very much!
For me the G9II does everything I need. Now if Lumix offers the extra trade in bonus like they did with the G9II ($500) I might trade in again and get the GH7.
Is Raw video 10 bit or 12 bit?
With external recorder only 12 bit. Internally is 10 bit
Long time GH user so excited, but some questions:
1. Are there any restrictions on SSD usage this time around like there were for G9II?
2. Autofocus: is the AF the same as G9II or have they made other improvements (besides the train/plane AF). I tried out the G9II for recording some martial arts competitions. I found that autofocus was good but it would lose people when they turned around/moved around too rapidly.
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1.There is, i believe with just the normal battery, recording is up to 60fps. However if you use the new USB-C dummy battery with 9V 3A PD power, then I believe there is no restriction. However Panasonic has not sent me that new dummy battery for me to try/test
2. I have not done side by side testing so I cant answer for sure. However, I watched your video, it seems to be a really challenging scene for subject detection because of the busy background, fast movement, subject not facing the camera..etc I feel even my Sony would not be able to follow the subject 100%. I would suggest playaround with some AF settings instead like rely on area detection rather than subject detection, or decrease the sensitivity
@@TheRealRichardWong:
Thanks for the response!
1. Great to know, looking forward to the updates on this. I would love to do an SSD setup on this
2. Yeah, I ultimately went with Area Detection later on. This was definitely a case of pushing it to see what it could do.
when will the Dummy battery be released ? and will it be compatible with the GH6 and S5II?
I found it on Lumix Japan website panasonic.jp/dc/p-db/DMW-DCC18.html
According to this page, it will be available in Japan from 20th June. I have not heard any info re GH6/S5II. I heard S9 is officially supported
@@TheRealRichardWong appreciate the info, I'm on the US, and I would believe it has to be compatible with previous models because its the same battery.
@@AndyLSB Yes i would guess so too. But without officially confirmation, i just don't want to say yes publicly here in case it doesn't for whatever reasons
@@TheRealRichardWong sure I understand, no worries.