Does China Pose a Threat to Australia? What Should Our China Policy Be?
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- Almost no question is of greater significance for Australia’s future than the emergence of China as an economic and military great power. Does the rise of China pose a threat to the security of Australia? If so, a threat of what kind?
The La Trobe University Ideas & Society program presents the two most important voices in this debate - Hugh White and Clive Hamilton. Hugh White, is Emeritus Professor of Strategic Studies at The Australian National University and has been an intelligence analyst, a journalist, a senior staffer to Defence Minister, Kim Beasley and Prime Minister, Bob Hawke and the first director of Australian Strategic Policy Institute. Clive Hamilton is Professor of Public Ethics at Charles Sturt University and was the founder and for fourteen years the Executive Director of The Australia Institute.
For those with an interest in Australia’s future, the Hugh White-Clive Hamilton China debate is of highest interest and fundamental importance, not to be missed.
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Australian public's opinion concerning China is shaped by Murdoch news. How can anyone trust them. Australians needs a more honest and balanced view news source. The real scary thing is that the Western world's strategy towards China is the same as the one used on USSR and hope to achieve the same results. This strategy is very dated and doom to fail. China is a totally different country.
You think China news is honest? Hahaha. You're a comedian
No one distorts news and lies like Murdoch news.. Especially when they control most of the English speaking countries' press. Murdoch news is toxic.
@@nathan-ck3je . Chinese news are honest. There is a big difference between not reporting and reporting fake or bias news.
You want to defend your right by fighting in China territory? in the south China sea? Where is your cow sense? And can you afford or not??
Have you seen the Australia comedy show: the PM is asking who proposes to spend $30 billion in military budget to protect its trading route to China against China's aggression in South China sea.
It is natural for a great power to want to dominate its region.Like it or not,China considers the South China Sea and Taiwan its core interest and will fight to protect its interest even to the extent of a nuclear war.The only way for peace is for US,China and Russia to agree to a compromise on the spheres of influence for each of them .Asia is likely to be the sphere of influence for China with America retreating in such a compromise.Australia must adjust its mindset if it wants to thrive in this new era.The good news is that it is not difficult for Australia to adjust as it only needs to drop its superiority complex,truly embrace Asia by learning the languages and cultures and cut its dependency for the faraway West.Australia needs not fear being lonely in Asia as it has fellow whitey NZ and the French are also nearby in their colonies.Don't worry,the Chinese are unlikely to invade and occupy Australia as China has no history of being the aggressor.
invasion may not only come in the form of territorial invasion, but instead in forms of censorship, economic takeover, influence campaigns to attain chinese foreign policy goals and a cyber-invasion. That invasion could and can still become true, Australia in this sense will keep losing influence until the point where China can just use its economic sticks to tell it what to do, as it already does with other states.
This is absurd. Check out the activities of the United Front and tell me the CCP is not an aggressor.
@@joa4019 China has not invaded any country or fired a bullet in anger for 40 years.You cannot say that about the West right?
@@thinkingaloud5379 No, I can’t. Is it relevant?
@@thinkingaloud5379 do you realise your post almost exactly parrots the policy of the CCP in its conception of how it plans to dislodge the US? Of course you do....
Are there any lessons Aus could learn from Japan with its relationship with China?
Afterall, China Japan relationship are on entirely higher level of difficulty compared with China Aus.
Japan haven't been sanctioned by China and but Aus had, diplomatic mistakes?
China did not sanction Aus.
China is a major partner of Aus for trade while america and allies is a major alliance on security, so they need more balancing stance in these two major super powers condidering security over economic factors.
Now in 2021, China had already left Aus alone. Rejoice?
Ha ha ha. China only need to do nothing to/with Aus.
@@NoohCeewho wants to deal with a racist backstabber.
Does what the Aussies say matter without US permission?
Maybe Charles Sturt should get more money from China so it could improve the quality of its professors. 🤣 Clive Hamilton doesn't have any arguments except old-fashioned "red" baiting. Just listen to how he answered the no content issue in the Q&A for the quality of his mind.
It becomes 'common sense' for most aussies to believe that China is the No.1 threat for Australia.The question is how most Chinese rank the threat level of Australia.Will they still like to pay a tour,send their kids for education,or invest in Australia if they realize Australia is so hostile to China?
I don't think Australia cares. Majority of Aussies would be glad to see you all gone..
@@nathan-ck3je how ever Aussy ecconomy wont be so happy when along with the people who leave their wealth and investments also leave. That country will have a slow and painful death.
@@nathan-ck3je we build chinatowns everywhere, its a takeover.
@@nathan-ck3je majority of the Aborigines would be glad to see the white settlers gone .
What a great demonstration of Australian intellectual prowess, or lack of.
Australia has been Obssessed with China for a long time now. Stalker vibes ?😂
I have never seen anyone so obsessed with someone else like this before. What exactly is the second guy's problem? He said a lot of stuff but none of it has anything to do with anything. What a total waste of time. -1 point for this university for bring on such a poor speaker.
He wanted to make a point: even Australia is only a small potato, but it can play a big role in the Liberal Democratic world order against the rising China. Good try.
By the way, China will continue to rise regardless what the western countries have in minds. If you want to jump on the wagon, you are welcome. If you don't, so be it. It is pretty useless to keep on whine about it.
@@qzhang25 China cannot continue to rise because the chinese don't understand very simple economics. Back in the opium war days, the chinese thought there was unlimited silver. But there wasn't, and so china had to give away all of its silver and became one of the poorest country in the world.
Now, china thinks there is unlimited jobs in the world that they can take. But there isn't. So, china will be forced to give away all of its jobs and become one or the poorest countries in the world. History repeats itself when people don't learn.
@@fungames24 Simplistic nonsense. Perhaps you could also say that Australia thinks there is unlimited high grade iron ore, natural gas, coal for it to dig and export?
@@chuanmeixu1246 Australia has stopped digging. Its resources will be more than enough for itself and its friends.
@@fungames24 What do you mean by "Australia has stopped digging"? Mining is still a substantial part of the economy. I worked in the mining industry for many years and know that existing mines all have very limited life and new viable mines are harder and harder to come by.If Australia doesn't wake up and diversify the economy it will risk falling into the "resource curse".
Back off from what?
What did China do?
@NoohCee what did China do? They rise too fast that scared the West
Here we go again!
Creating scarecrows to pick fights with each other and blindfold the populace.
It is sad and scary for my children and my grandchildren that these two educated and well spoken gentlemen cannot forecast a scenario of peace and prosperity for all but only see conflict, wars and egemonic colonial power of USA or China.
Our world is too small. No nation have the monopoly on right and wrong and all systems will fail if they do not adjust and change to the needs of people.
In a perfect world this would be the perfect time to come together, define a small set of global moral and economic rules to be enforced locally, abolish all borders, abolish all armies, concentrate on improving the quality of life for all in absolute, not relative terms.
Instead it looks like we are still, again, planning on building new nuclear bunkers in our basement to save us from the next homegrown boogie man.
One is a pragmatic policy scholar, the other a ideological bigot
This was embarrassing from Hamilton. This should be shown to high school kids in what not to do.
The U.S., Australia, and the UK are good Christians and God-sent protectors for southeast Asian Christians and Muslims. Australia had great experiences in defeating the Chinese in both Korean War and Vietnam War. The battlefields used to be Korea and Vietnam both border China, it is only natural to progress to Taiwan and the South China Sea further from China. Therefore, Southeast Asian Christians and Muslims must be so happy that their countries becoming battlegrounds.
Stop smoking crack is not good for you. also get out.of.your moms basement.
This is not chinese, this is.a.troll。😂
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Stop your bullshit Christianity!
The racism event will be amazing in the context of NZ. Can't wait.
The problem is the west uses its own paradigm of zero sum game of dominate or be dominated. It dominated Asia and ecploited it and assume when China grew it will domninate abd exploit Asia like it did. History of the west in Adia vis a vis China is totally different. China had traded with Asian countries for hundreds if not thousands of years without sunduing or colonizing them but Europeans just came to Asia about 200 years ago and right away colonized, subdued and exploited Asian countries. The problem is Europeanns cannot accept a non white country as a peer.
the intro is a load of rot
When China sends its ships to australia shores then its a treat, right now its the other way around.
No
Australia needs to develop a nuclear capability. It needs to develop it now.
Great debate. Horrible 3 question format.
Hugh White is a fantastic intellectual and speaker.
Hugh White overlooks or underestimates China's poor strategic environment. China shares land borders with more countries than other country in the world. Two of those countries - Russia and India - are nuclear powers and have fought border wars with China. Japan is directly adjacent to China and disputes Japanese control of the Senkaku Islands. The likelihood that the US would not be able to form a very formidable alliance comprising the US, Japan, India and Australia is unrealistic. Russia would not fight a war on China's side against a US-led alliance. Russia's strategic position would be seriously compromised were China to succeed in pushing the US out of Asia. Russia would most likely sit on the fence in any conflict with the US.
Russia is now China's BFF, India was, is, and will always be a fruitcake, it's about 20 centuries due for a revolution just to catch up to modernity.
Fear of a rise of Asians basikalku.
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