The theory of mind test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 เม.ย. 2011
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Researcher Kadria Simons explains how the Theory of Mind test helps young children begin to understand other people's thoughts and feelings. This was one of our mid-year visits during the year-long Kindergarten Diaries series.
Reporter - Kate Hammer
Videographer - Anne-Marie Jackson
Editor - Douglas Perez
The Globe and Mail April 2011
The camera lookback that Kadri gave us after one of the Kids did something expected is everything
I absolutely love this video and love to show this to my Development class. The look on these kids is so awesome when they just get it!
What a great illustration of the theory. Thank you for sharing!
These are tasks we take completely for granted. Yet, when you think about it, it's actually pretty neat that we can simulate minds like that. And from such an early age!
its not neat. they are screening to see if ull go along with deception in life and are ok with secrets
@@thebluedot4728 everyone lies.
@thebluedot4728 yes. 3 years have passed. but do you still think this? it’s a cognitive developmental stage.
@@thebluedot4728 - and that's a theory of conspiracy.
Please add closed captions if you can. Thank you!
very good. don't know how i ended up here but very good.
Do you guys happen to have a video on the responses made by younger children, or at least ones who haven't developed mental-state inference?
You try to give the video more brightness it will be great if you do
Interesting that ToM is now being studied as well in adults with neurodegenerative disorders such as Parkinson's disease and frontotemporal disorders. See:
1. Neuropsychiatr Dis Treat. 2019 Feb 20;15:557-573. doi: 10.2147/NDT.S158996.
eCollection 2019.
Neurocognitive mechanisms of theory of mind impairment in neurodegeneration: a
transdiagnostic approach.
Strikwerda-Brown C(1)(2)(3), Ramanan S(1)(2)(3), Irish M(1)(2)(3).
Much of human interaction is predicated upon our innate capacity to infer the
thoughts, beliefs, emotions, and perspectives of others, in short, to possess a
"theory of mind" (ToM). While the term has evolved considerably since its
inception, ToM encompasses our unique ability to apprehend the mental states of
others, enabling us to anticipate and predict subsequent behavior. From a
developmental perspective, ToM has been a topic of keen research interest, with
numerous studies seeking to explicate the origins of this fundamental capacity
and its disruption in developmental disorders such as autism. The study of ToM at
the opposite end of the lifespan, however, is paradoxically new born, emerging as
a topic of interest in its own right comparatively recently. Here, we consider
the unique insights afforded by studying ToM capacity in neurodegenerative
disorders. Arguing from a novel, transdiagnostic perspective, we consider how ToM
vulnerability reflects the progressive degradation of neural circuits specialized
for an array of higher-order cognitive processes. This mechanistic approach
enables us to consider the common and unique neurocognitive mechanisms that
underpin ToM dysfunction across neurodegenerative disorders and for the first
time examine its relation to behavioral disturbances across social, intimate,
legal, and criminal settings. As such, we aim to provide a comprehensive overview
of ToM research in neurodegeneration, the resultant challenges for family
members, clinicians, and the legal profession, and future directions worthy of
exploration.
DOI: 10.2147/NDT.S158996
PMCID: PMC6388953
PMID: 30863078
Source: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6388953/
good validity.
for me this is mindblowing, it feels like a revelation
Good one, I like it.
Would have been good to show an example where the child fails the test!
they did
Is this basically testing a child’s ability to “put themselves in another’s shoe” or thr child assuming because they had an initial belief that others will come to the same conclusion?
In short is the test testing empathy or belief?
I didn't understand the second half of the first sentence. But anyway, what they are testing is the Innate 'theory' a child has that others have a Mind of their own; so they know things - other than what the child knows etc.
Very well explained! Thank you.
A circle with a spinner and 3 numbers on it. 1 2 and 3. Everyone is is the same size but the number 3 which is bigger. What is the most Likely number the spinner will land on the most?
This was a test back in school I took. I knew the answer but decided to go against the norm and the odds and I always picked number 1.
That’s not a theory of mind test, that’s a probability test
The questions associated with establishing the degree that someone experiences a 'theory of mind' are vague. To Autists in particular, the questions like the Sally/Anne scenario don't provide enough information to give a definitive answer. Autists need details: Is Sally the type of person to watch her belongings? Did Sally see Anne move the ball? Will Sally confront Anne directly, or would she act as though she doesn't know to see if Anne is a trustworthy person? These questions determine the most reasonable place to look. Asking these types of questions express that there's empathy and an even more extreme acknowledgement and understanding that these individuals (if they were real) have their own subjective experiences and a separate mind from our own. Many people just believe the test is ridiculous in the first place, because these are not real people, therefore do not experience in the first place. Refusing to ask these types of questions in a scenario that's lacking detailed information suggests that the person lacks an understanding of complexities in situations and is actually indicative of a more autonomous response based on what's reasonable to that specific individual; their answer is based on their own experiences and not an idea of others experiencing, yet they still pass. Theory of mind is a misguided concept thought up by those who have a deficit in this very area. The presumption that there's a lack of awareness of others' experiences can't actually be concluded in the first place, because those who make such a determination cannot experience the experiences of others, and so those who assume such a thing actually lack theory of mind themselves.
You can do this "test" over and over in relationships.
Autistics need way more details than most people to "assess" a potential outcome. Often, even when given this info...their own cognitive distortions, biases, narratives, muddle the end "prediction" too much. The simply cannot sustain a whole scenario with another's perspectives, experiences, in mind. Therefore they "miss" key variables and often misunderstand the whole picture.
It is this inserting (completely unaware, subconsciously) of one's own perspective at key points in the equation, that can create such a vast difference between being able to accurately predict others behaviors.
You can interview autistics vs neurotypicals, very thoroughly and see these stark patterns. Of course, everyone is different...but the wiring, processing, difference, cause gaps, loss of important data, so that the end conclusion is off.
This is one of the reasons relating to others is such a struggle. So many key things are not seen, understood, because the blindness caused by the autistics own perspective blocking their view of others.
The only thing you proved by this ‘dissertation’ - is that you have a deficit of Theory-of-Mind; and rather you theorize such things ― using Technical Information.
These tests have been done countless times, on different ages ― and reliably show how Theory-of-Mind develops naturally through the ages.
That's how this kind of research works ― through a very large amount of statistical data - which approaches certainty.
And it doesn't test for an ability to predict people's behavior ― it measures an Innate\Instinctual Theory-of-Mind.
I would like to see one of then failing in the teste
they did show one
The more I study these tasks, the more it seems to me the younger children simply do not understand the task. That is, they do not have the linguistic capability to perform the task well.
irmagedden I thought the same
@@brainztain There actually is a 2005 study from Onishi and Baillargeon in which they did similar trials with two-year olds, but without using language at all. They showed the children similar scenes, but instead of asking them questions they tracked the childrens eyes movement. The results strongly imply that Theory of Mind precedes verbal skills.
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Understandable.
@@Sunareila Hey! I know some time had passed since you posted that comment, but can you post name of this study? Im currently writing about theory of mind in my thesis and I would love to read about it :)
Is it true that people who speak several languages have a better theorie of mind?
the background music is kind of creepy imo
so is the womens creepy smile when shes like " she tricked him right?" like its cool and ok to be in on secrets and deception.
How do they control for the variable of intellectual ability? Kids develop at such unique rates... Confusion about the ball could be a like, a learning "delay".. I just need to go back to school and call it a day
Perhaps infants are professional trollers.
The last kid is also in the marshmellow test's video xD
Very well presented
Who here knows that jim from the office has a good theory of mind?
But he doesn’t know people suffer from identity theft.
I see Sally and Ann (second last)
2:29 Ava the doll is just like my cousin Ava looks very similar
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@@dariusadams9644 please forgive me. i was a child.
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Searching about theory of mind and got to this video.
I am not getting it. (This theory)
This video es great, but I feel tricked, I came here to see kids getting it wrong.
That would be pretty cruel...
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What if your kid is too shy to even answer the questions?
Prathmesh seems like the type of kid that would put raisins in a smarties box.
raisins
bruh
is this false belief paradigm
Yeah, but a way to test diverging mental states, which requires theory of mind. So, it is testing their theory of mind capabilities.
are you blind or what?
The basket test used 'white' toys
while the game test used 'black' toys
I mean... both of them had a trickster in it, so... not a big deal
this is dangerous... this means u can decieve people wrongfully.. this is how advertising is possible.. not ok.............
it sounds more dangerous to me if a child believes one cannot deceive people
what if a stranger tells them they have candy in the truck or something?