Nor is he begotten? So the scriptures were lieing about him being begotten ? Your name is Demon could you get any more blasphemous. I'll be praying for you.
Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a Son is born, unto us a child is given, and the government shall be on his shoulders, and his name shall be, Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlating Father, The Prince of Peace."
@A B Jesus is the Son of God, and guess who dwells within him? John 10:30 state I and the Father are One. Said Yeshua Hammashiach. 1 John 5:7 reads: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. Revelation of JC in Rev 1:8. Mic drop.
meanwhile in Islam, Mohammed never even knew God's name was Jehovah (יהוה). Read the prophecy about the Wheat and the Weeds at Matthew 13: 24-30, 36-43, the corruption of Christianity was foretold by Jesus himself, and it was only to be in the time before Armageddon that it would resurface. We are now in that time. Very exciting times indeed. Mohammed was prophesied about twice at least in the Bible, here are those two I'm talking about... Genesis 16: 10-12; Galatians 1: 8, 9.
The problem with Islam is that Muhammad's teachings were in contradiction to Jesus' teachings. You only have to look at what they said about divorce, sexuality, violence, and peace to understand that.
@@annelarm9492 1. Muhammad (PBUH) never preached any thing violent (in context), that I know of. 2. I don't know how violence, sexuality, divorce, and peace came into this discussion. I was talking about how every community has problems. This video was about the holy trinity and if we look at this logically, the trinity doesn't make any sense. Of course I understand the idea of god is something we can't fathom, but belief of a superior deity has to based on some sort of reason or logic. The holy trinity isn't really logical and is lacking in reason (I could give you a few points on this but this is turning into something else so I'll stop for now). 3. Essentially, if we base our beliefs on logic and reason and we don't blindly believe, Islam comes out as the most sensible religion. I try to open my eyes and look at other's point of views but nothing really adds up like Islam does. I'm not gonna try preaching because i'm no professional, nor am I that educated. But, I hope you can look around and see what makes most sense to you. P.S. I don't really get it when you say Muhammad's (PBUH) teachings contradict with Isa (AS) (aka. Jesus), can you give me a few examples of such?
In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. 1. Say, “He is God, the One. 2. God, the Absolute. 3. He begets not, nor was He begotten. 4. And there is nothing comparable to Him.”
@@lukoispratera7550 also we believe islam is false and mohamad is a false and not qualified to be a prophet. its not an insult its the truth based on a description of a false prophet from the bible.
@@faithfultheology well, we could see that there is God, there is the Angel of the Lord, who is also God, and the holy spirit can be grieved in places like Isaiah 63:10 and Ephisians 4:30
@Apple PieI could not do it better than your reply and I do understand, God The Father and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit and all three are one God. A person just has to understand God, see Jesus the Christ and understand what he is all about and why the whole world needs him to do away with Evil and Death and give us a new eternal Life and make all things new, that is love! Bless you Apple Pie.
Blue101 Blue102 John 5:7-8 King James Version (KJV) 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Then explain why God's Word states all 3 (Tri) entities resurrected Jesus from the dead: 1.) Acts 4:10-God the Father raises Jesus from the dead. 2.) John 2:19-Jesus declared that He will raise Himself up in 3 days 3.) Romans 8:11-The Holy Spirit raises Jesus from the dead. And if the Bible affirms that all three Triune nature of the Godhead raises the Begotten Son from the dead. Then that confirms one of many passages in the Bible supporting the doctrine of the Trinity. No one or nothing can raise the Lord from the dead, except the Triune God Himself.
Well the quick answer is no human sees clearly here on Earth, when it comes to understanding God. 1 Corinthians 13:12. You may be interested to know there is one and only one human recorded in the Bible, that has seen God clearly, face to face IN HEAVEN! 1 Corinthians 13:12. Would you care to see what he has to say on this topic? The following is not intended to prove there is a Trinity, but to show from the best source in scripture that Jesus is God Almighty, which simultaneously debunks the One and Only God belief system, and avoids debating Trinity vs. non Trinity. This is my answer to those who don't believe Jesus is God. Best proof in the Bible, that Jesus is God, disproving the One and Only God, heresy. 1. If Jesus is not God, then how do you reconcile that belief with Rev. 22:16 and Rev. 22:6-9? Jesus is God, because He sent HIS Holy Prophet from heaven, HAVING SEEN GOD FACE TO FACE, to the Holy Prophet John in the Revelation, telling us Jesus is Lord God of the Holy Prophets! Jesus sent His Prophet. Only God can send HIS PROPHETS! 2. The Prophet Jesus sent from heaven IS THE ONLY HUMAN SOURCE ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE, having seen GOD CLEARLY, face to face IN HEAVEN! 1 Corinthians 13:12 EVERYONE ELSE SPEAKING IN THE BIBLE, YOU, ME, EVERYONE, just don't see clearly. 1 Corinthians 13:12 Again, Jesus' BIBLE HOLY PROPHET, seeing clearly, says Jesus is LORD GOD of the HOLY PROPHETS! One of GOD's Holy Prophets, certainly knows WHO HIS GOD IS!! 3. God's Holy Prophet John, who is 'in the Spirit' throughout his vision, after seeing and hearing Jesus and God's Holy Prophet in Revelation 22:16 and Rev. 22:6-9, calls Jesus LORD GOD ALMIGHTY in his introduction to the vision HE HAS ALREADY SEEN and HEARD. Rev. 1:7,8. That's Jesus and two Holy Prophets, ONE JESUS SENT FROM HEAVEN, SEEING CLEARLY, WE DON'T, telling you JESUS IS GOD!!!!!
@@bolingdang6020 Yes they believe that Jesus is God and that is false. When Jesus was accused of claiming to be God He even told his accusers that that was not what he claimed to be. Yet here we are, people still accusing Jesus of being God. He told us who he is... The son of God. God has a name and it’s not Jesus it’s YHWH, YAHWEH, JEHOVAH. A name written 6000 +times in the Bible. A name that Jehovah wanted to be known. Yet people justify and perfectly accept reading a bible that does not include his personal name. They’re fine reading bible that says LORD and wrongfully attributing that to Jesus. This is your wake up call
@@Artbycheria i dont think you can read the Gospel according to John and say Jesus is not God. Can you point out a verse that said people accused Jesus of being God and denied He it? Because the magi worshiped him, He accepts people who worshipped him when the waves stopped on His command, and also asks us to pray in His name.
@@Artbycheria actually tho, i dont think that YHWH is the name of God, but an indication that It is God. When you use the Greek Septuagint (old testament that Jesus probably used), you won't find the word YHWH(יהוה). When Moses asked God for His name, God answered "hayah Asher hayah"/ "ehyah asher ehyah, which can mean different things including "I am who I am", "I will become what I choose to become", "I am what I am", "I will be what I will be", "I create what I create", or "I am the Existing One". We can see parallels of Jesus and the Angel of the LORD. For example They both carried the name of God and Jesus said Abraham rejoiced to see His day.
Fortunately, I read the bible before anyone had a chance to indoctrinate me with the Trinity concept. I am so incredibly thankful for this. I am shocked beyond belief that the Trinity doctrine is believed by so many who call themselves "Christians". Christ spoke of the "wide" gate and the many that will go that way. The amount of people who are presently deceived by the Trinity Doctrine is certainly in line with what he said.
Meanwhile, the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain Jesus had designated. When they saw Him, they worshiped Him, but some doubted. Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Matthew 28:16-20 BSB The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. And they were calling out to one another: “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of Hosts; all the earth is full of His glory.” Isaiah 6:3 BSB God is Holy Holy Holy. One Holy each for the Father, and for the Son and for the Holy Spirit.
There is no God but YHWH. I'm the LORD and there is no one else; there is no God but me. I have armored you, although you did not know me yet (Isaiah 45:5).
@@ex-trinitarian5196 Surah 2:255 In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful. Allah! There is no God but He, the Living, the Self-subsisting, the Eternal. No slumber can seize Him, nor sleep. All things in heaven and earth are His. Who could intercede in His presence without His permission? He knows what appears in front of and behind His creatures. Nor can they encompass any knowledge of Him except what he wills. His throne extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them, for He is the Highest and Most Exalted.
@@theresonlyone8881 Yes "Allah" is not a name either it just means "the God" so why shouldn't Arabic Christians use it if it is their mother tongue? Arabic translations of the Bible also have "Allah" in the scripture. But we also say "Arab" which means "LORD" to distinguish ourselves from Muslims.
He was sent to guide the lost people of Israel. The Romans made him a God now they worship his idol, an artist's imagination 🎨 👥. Some Christians I know even call out Mary's name while praying 🙏🙇🙌 Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said: يٰٓأَهْلَ الْكِتٰبِ لَا تَغْلُوا فِى دِينِكُمْ وَلَا تَقُولُوا عَلَى اللَّهِ إِلَّا الْحَقَّ ۚ إِنَّمَا الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ أَلْقٰىهَآ إِلٰى مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِّنْهُ ۖ فَئَامِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦ ۖ وَلَا تَقُولُوا ثَلٰثَةٌ ۚ اِنْتَهُوا خَيْرًا لَّكُمْ ۚ إِنَّمَا اللَّهُ إِلٰهٌ وٰحِدٌ ۖ سُبْحٰنَهُۥٓ أَنْ يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٌ ۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِى السَّمٰوٰتِ وَمَا فِى الْأَرْضِ ۗ وَكَفٰى بِاللَّهِ وَكِيلًا "O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, Three; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs." (Quran. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 171)
@@xxafthabxx9346 that dosen't answer the question. Well I can say that similar too. Muhammad wasn't a prophet later caliphate made him prophet. 2.Why should I care what quran says written by half a millennium later.
The trinity is unexplainable! No matter how hard someone tries to explain what the trinity is, it makes a sober person sound like a drunk when they try! Whoever came with this trinity ideology made billions of people go astray, and all the people who believe the trinity, believe and follow the trinity doctrine BLINDLY.
Agreed, one consequence of belief in the trinity is you lose logic as an exegetical tool. You have to throw out logic and that can't lead one to the truth. Issac Newton didn't believe the trinity either and he could have been the smartest man alive in his day.
Wait, so just because you and everyone you've known can't explain it, that makes it false? Do you know that without faith it's impossible to please God, Hebrews 11:6? Many Bible truths are unexplainable to finite, mortal, carnal man, 1 Cor. 2:14. Okay, I won't even use the word "trinity", but I believe in the following because the Bible itself proves it: One God existing as three distinct persons, all equally ONE GOD. It doesn't matter if I can't explain it. The Bible proves it and therefore I believe it by faith. Obviously the Bible identifies God as The Father, no one disputes that. But the Bible also identifies God as the son/Christ and the Holy Ghost: 1 John 5:7, For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. God identified as the son/Christ: Isaiah 9:6, For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. John 1:1-3, 14, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 20:28-29, And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. Also: Compare Isaiah 44:6 with Rev 1:8, 1:11, 1:17-18 & Rev 22:12-16, 20 Compare Deuteronomy 32:4 & 1 Sam. 2:2 with 1 Corinthians 10:4 Compare Isaiah 40:3 with Matt. 3:1-3 & Mark 1:1-3 God identified as the Holy Ghost: Acts 5:3-4, But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. God identified as One ("these three are one"): 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 Galatians 3:20 Ephesians 4:6 Each person is distinct from the other: John 14:16, And I (Christ) will pray the Father, and he shall give you ANOTHER Comforter (Holy Ghost), that he may abide with you for ever; Notice how Christ is praying to the Father and he shall give ANOTHER (distinct from the Father, distinct from the Son) Comforter. Now, forget about man's ideologies, traditions and doctrines of devils and even your ability or inability to explain it. Either you believe the clear biblical proof or you don't. Did you know that water can coexist in three distinct states? At an exact air pressure of 611.73 pascals or 6.1173 millibars and an exact temperature of 0.01 °C or 32.018 °F, water will coexist in liquid, solid and vapor states in thermodynamic equilibrium. It's called the triple point of water if you want to look it up. Whether anyone can explain that or not, it doesn't negate its veracity. Water is water. At that exact combination of air pressure and temperature, either the liquid, solid or vapor can (hypothetically) accurately claim to be the "one true water" and neither would be wrong. In either state, it's no less water than in the other two states. Now, with that being true for water, what makes anything impossible for an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent God?
That’s a good train of thought. As a Muslim, I am not asking you to consider Islam since with your belief system and by the definition of a Muslim you’re already one. The Quran already mentions that true Christians like you and the true Jews are companions of the same true religion. Just one question, do you still believe then that Jesus still was the Lord in a man’s body ?
@@theholyoneofisrael.9550 I agree. If I could go back 1990 years to Israel I too would be a disciple of Yeshua. However, I was born a Christian in a Judeo-Christian civilisation which changed the world remarkably for the good. Virtually all the evils carried out by "Christian" people and nations towards the jews, has been done in Jesus' name, but not as per his teachings. It was carried out by evil people. Yeshua would have been horrified.
You are correct 100% the trinity is false. We should be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sin and to receive the gift of the holy spirit. This is why people who are baptized in titles do not have a spiritual transformation or have the gift of speaking in tongues. God has woken me up to the Truth and so many are decieved by the trinity and the most problematic part is they will argue all day about it and shame you for not accepting the trinity baptism in titles. They refuse to accept that Jesus Christ is the name above every other name. The trinity is leading people to a false baptism that does not have the power to make you a new being in Christ Jesus.
The Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ is the Easter and Sunday is the He Resurrected and so that day was put above all days. So every Sunday is meant to remember the Resurrection and is therefore referred to as a mini Easter
Christmas is the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ and it happened on 25th December in the year 5199 since the world was created. The world is now 7024 years old
@@innocentmwesigye5398Where in the bible does it say “put sunday above others”? Jesus only spoke about easter and say “keep doing this in memory of me” but not the pagan easter of today, he never said “have a rabbit symbolize easter & make it a game for kids”
@@innocentmwesigye5398Christmas is not the birth of Jesus. It is well known that Jesus was not born on December 25th. Do a little bit of research for yourself, educate yourself a bit more. Dont just go off of what others tell you to believe. Also look at where Christmas really came from, Jesus never celebrated his birthday when he was in earth, nor does the bible say to remember and celebrate his birthday or do gift exchanges.
What about Jesus' death? He prays to his father for strength for what was about to happen. When he ministered, he said 'i have come to do the will of my father who sent me.' The Trinity makes no sense.
You are asking a fair question, but I think you misunderstand what the doctrine of the trinity actually says. The word "trinity" is used to describe the nature of God's being as described in the Bible. You are essentially saying "The Father is not The Son!", and that is CORRECT. To believe in the Trinity is not to believe that The Father, The Son, and The Holy are the same persons, the Bible is clear that they are not the same person. What the Trinity does say is that these 3 persons, in a higher and more holy way than our mortal minds can comprehend, together are ONE God. This is to reconcile the biblical statement that the Lord our God is one God. There's some other aspects to the doctrine of the trinity, namely that these 3 persons are coeternal (These 3 always have been and always will be) and coexistent (Think of the Baptism of Jesus, all 3 were present at the same time). This affirms the Biblical truth that God is eternal and that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit act in perfect unison. On a really shallow level, consider your favorite sports team. It's comprised of multiple persons, who act together in perfect unison to be one. It's not incredibly fruitful to try and liken the nature of God, which our finite minds cannot completely grasp, to something so simple, but just to give a simple example I like that one.
Im a Muslim and i always have conversations with Christians telling them the trinity was not part of early Christianity. Peace be upon Jesus the Messiah sent from Allah
You know that Jesus is the Messiah but you're a Muslim? Jesus is God manifest in the flesh , read 1timothy 3:16 , John 1:1 and Isaiah 9:6 ... Islam is a lie , Jesus warned you not to let the traditions of the world deceive you , Christian prince channel will help you see the lies of Islam , he is arabic , he will make it clear for you even in your own language , this is as far as I would go , once he makes it easy to see Islam is a lie and demonic , just go to Jesus Christ yourself from this point , read a king James in whatever language you can understand and pray to Jesus Christ , do not let a tradition drag you to hell .... Please, and yes , God is one , Jesus Christ is he , he's not just a Messiah , he's God , you think God needs help from someone to save his people? What kind of a weak creator would that be............use logic , be humble , God will reveal how it all happened and is possible what he did .
@@onlymyself7225 John 4:24 God is spirit Luke 24:39 Jesus Christ is flesh not spirit. So Jesus is not God because God is spirit which is not flesh and Jesus is Flesh which is not spirit.🤟🔥💯🙏
As a Muslim I’ve always questioned why Christians are so hard bend on the trinity thing . No other Monotheistic religion from the time of Adam, Moses and the other prophets that followed ever preached an idea of trinity. They all had the same message to worship the one God and suddenly Jesus come up and be like I am all three ( I know he never says that) . If I was a thinking christian, I would believe in the one unseen God while sticking to Jesus’s teachings
Don't be fooled by such things, the trinity is not a Christian concept, never was, never will be. Trinitarians going-around calling themselves Christians are part of a apostacy of the true Christ recorded in scripture. Jesus warned of such behavior while on earth, and things are unfolding just as He predicted they would.
As someone that read the Bible a few times through before even going to church or listening to Christian speakers it seemed obvious to me the God and Jesus were two separate beings. The Bible made it clear to me that God was God, Jesus was God’s first and most loved creation and that the Holy spirit is just a way of saying God’s is doing something on earth with His power. It was only after listening to Christian speakers and what churches believed that I learned of the trinity believe. To this day the trinity believe still seems like an illogical teaching that is being forced on the Bible instead of being taken out of the Bible.
End of story? Did you know Trinitarians believe God is one? Bottom line is you, I, everyone here on Earth don't see clearly. 1 Corinthians 13:12. There is one, and only one human source in the Bible that has seen God face to face, IN HEAVEN, CLEARLY, that has something to say on this topic. 1 Corinthians 13:12 Would you care to see what he, Jesus, and one of God's earthly Holy Prophets have to say on this topic? The following is not intended to prove there is a Trinity, but to show from the best source in scripture that Jesus is God Almighty, which simultaneously debunks the One and Only God belief system, and avoids debating Trinity vs. non Trinity. This is my answer to those who don't believe Jesus is God. Best proof in the Bible, that Jesus is God, disproving the One and Only God, heresy. 1. If Jesus is not God, then how do you reconcile that belief with Rev. 22:16 and Rev. 22:6-9? Jesus is God, because He sent HIS Holy Prophet from heaven, HAVING SEEN GOD FACE TO FACE, to the Holy Prophet John in the Revelation, telling us Jesus is Lord God of the Holy Prophets! Jesus sent His Prophet. Only God can send HIS PROPHETS! 2. The Prophet Jesus sent from heaven IS THE ONLY HUMAN SOURCE ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE, having seen GOD CLEARLY, face to face IN HEAVEN! 1 Corinthians 13:12 EVERYONE ELSE SPEAKING IN THE BIBLE, YOU, ME, EVERYONE, just don't see clearly. 1 Corinthians 13:12 Again, Jesus' BIBLE HOLY PROPHET, seeing clearly, says Jesus is LORD GOD of the HOLY PROPHETS! One of GOD's Holy Prophets, certainly knows WHO HIS GOD IS!! 3. God's Holy Prophet John, who is 'in the Spirit' throughout his vision, after seeing and hearing Jesus and God's Holy Prophet in Revelation 22:16 and Rev. 22:6-9, calls Jesus LORD GOD ALMIGHTY in his introduction to the vision HE HAS ALREADY SEEN and HEARD. Rev. 1:7,8. That's Jesus and two Holy Prophets, ONE JESUS SENT FROM HEAVEN, SEEING CLEARLY, WE DON'T, telling you JESUS IS GOD!!!!!
@@clarawagon9019 take a breath, relax. I don’t believe a trinity but I do believe Jesus is God. Be careful what you call a heresy. Been seeing revelation 22 pointed out lately. It doesn’t prove a trinity, triune, or 3 persons. Just one God.
@@YOCITAS1 we are made in the pure image of God. We are also 3 in 1: mind body and spirit. Apply this to God. Father Son Holy Spirit. Both are 3 in 1. Is our mind body and spirit three different beings? No. apply that to God.
@@YOCITAS1 I have a post where I just say all I need to do is show Jesus is God, don't need to show the Trinity to prove the ONE AND ONLY GOD BELIVERS to be in error. It is clear to me that you are not one of God's Holy Prophets sent from heaven to instruct me. The only human source in the entire Bible that has seen God clearly face to face, is one of God's Holy Prophets, that Jesus sent FROM HEAVEN, telling us that Jesus is LORD GOD of the Holy Prophets! He sees clearly. 1 Corinthians 13:12 You don't. 1 Corinthians 13 :12. After seeing the vision given him, including Rev. 22:16 and Rev. 22:6-9, God's Holy Prophet John calls Jesus God Almighty in Rev. 1:7,8. That's 2 of God's Holy Prophets, and Jesus telling us Jesus is God. Again, you are not an earthly Holy Prophet, nor one of God's Holy Prophets sent from heaven, nor are you Jesus! As far as the Holy Spirit is concerned, for me the Holy Spirit is tough to nail down....mysterious. I know that the Holy Spirit can be blasphemed which means the Holy Spirit is intelligent, not a force. I also know that John is 'in the Spirit' throughout the Revelation, which means at the very least, John is given understanding through the Holy Spirit. The Testimony of Jesus IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY. Rev. 19:10 After studying this vision for 30+ years I am not going to apologize for the fact that I know a whole lot more than you do, concerning what is going on there. I am most likely the only human on the planet that can track the 'angel' through the vision. I tried presenting that once on an online medium called Spectrum, and was instantly cajoled in an angry fashion and banned from the site. With that being the response, I was satisfied that there was no valid response, just angry torch bearers looking forward to a barbeque. Don't make the same mistake they did. Listen and learn.
Jesus himself prophesied that after the Apostles died there would be an apostasy (see Matthew 13: 24-30, 36-43). But he did not prophesy another prophet, nor does the Quran agree with the Bible. Rather in that prophecy he says when the apostasy would end, "in the conclusion of the system of things" or "the end of the age", also translated "the end of the world." Also, the one to separate the true Christians from the false will be "angels" not muslims (see Matthew 13: 41). Islam is the False Prophet, which Christians were warned about at Galatians 1: 6-9. "Even if an angel out of heaven" or 'the Apostles themselves' were to 'teach something beyond what the Apostles taught', they were 'accursed by God.' Muslims do not even use the writings of the Apostles, which they pretend are corrupted even though Mohammed didn't know that when he was alive, and we have manuscripts that predate Mohammed that show our Bibles are the same as those. The truth is that the Quran 'teaches something beyond what the Apostles taught' and as such in incompatible. Mohammed was a false prophet.
@@raselkhandutta2203 JEWISH PRIESTS: We strictly ordered you to stop teaching JESUS' APOSTLES: Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, judge for yourselves. But as for us, we cannot stop speaking about the things we have seen and heard. (Acts of the Apostles 4:18-21; 5:27-32) STOP FOLLOWING A FALSE PROPHET. Mohammed died slowly and painfully over 2 years because of the poison he ate at Kaibar. He had murdered the family of a Jewish woman and she poisoned him. If he had been a true prophet, he would have known it was poisoned. "Even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond the good news we declared to you, let him be accursed." (Galatians 1: 8) Mohammed declared a message "beyond the good news" that the Apostles of Jesus preached. That is why he died an accursed death.
@@marisakennedy777 actually that verse were about paul. And following popes. I mean, look at trinity, christmas. It was not jesus teachings. Roman popes invented christmas to accomodate pagan rituals into christianity. They cherry picked everything to fit their pagan and cultural belief to the point christianism today is different to early christianism while jesus still alive.
@@sr969 I agree with you SR about the Popes and Catholic church, but i STRONGLY disagree about Paul. The Apostle Paul's writings do NOT support the trinity, nor do they support all the garbage the Catholic church has done. And actually, Paul's writings provide some of the best evidence AGAINST the trinity.
Well, read the Quran. U will feel like home. All your questions regarding who God is will be answered in a logical way. The message always has. God is one and Islam only came to revive that.
@@xxafthabxx9346 If you say that God somehow sent a messenger to each nation, why is there not a single Monotheist predating Christian missionaries and Spanish occupation in Latin America?
Salam, Shalom, Peace. I advise myself first and foremost and everyone to follow the scriptures as they command us not to associate partners with God: *Deuteronomy 6:4* - "Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one" *Isaiah 46:9* - "For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me." *Quran 112:1-4* -"Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent.""
The rapture isnt mentioned verbatim in the Bible; it doesn't mean that it's not in the Bible; 1 John 5:7 “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” John 14:26 King James Version (KJV) 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Isaiah 11:2 King James Version (KJV) 2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord; John 10:30 “I and my Father are one. Isaiah 43:10 Isaiah 44:6 King James Version (KJV) 6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isaiah 45:21 (KJV) 21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the Lord? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Simple illustration of the trinity right now at this exact moment Jesus is at the right hand of the Father at this exact moment; thats two we have the Holy Spirit with us right now thsts 3 - the trinity- Another illustration of the trinity is when jhon baptized Jesus and the Holy spirit appears as a dove; the holy spirit then leads Jesus into the wilderness
@@terryjohanne6943 lol Allah is a false God brought forth from Satan; Jesus was God in the flesh; can you give one miracle that Allah preformed? 1 Timothy 3:16(KJV) 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into John 1:1-10 (KJV) 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth Luke 2:16-20 (KJV) 16 And they came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger. 17 And when they had seen it, they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning this child. 18 And all they that heard it wondered at those things which were told them by the shepherds. 19 But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart. 20 And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them. Philippians 2:8 (KJV) 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Philippians 2:8 (TLB) 8 And he humbled himself even further, going so far as actually to die a criminal’s death on a cross.[a]
@@terryjohanne6943 lol Allah is a false God brought forth from Satan; Jesus was God in the flesh; can you give one miracle that Allah preformed? 1 Timothy 3:16(KJV) 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into John 1:1-10 (KJV) 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth Luke 2:16-20 (KJV) 16 And they came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger. 17 And when they had seen it, they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning this child. 18 And all they that heard it wondered at those things which were told them by the shepherds. 19 But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart. 20 And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them. Philippians 2:8 (KJV) 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Philippians 2:8 (TLB) 8 And he humbled himself even further, going so far as actually to die a criminal’s death on a cross.[a]
@@rsar61 don’t bother you’ll never change someone’s faith through a TH-cam comment just keep it pushing and avoid the strife. These conflicts of religion can only be addressed in person.
Jesus taught the shema -that there is only One God. Mark 12:29 But Jesus never mentioned the name Yahweh. He said he came in his Father's name. "I am come in my Father's name and ye receive me not. If another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive."
Hebrews 3:1...... Jesus Christ, 2 faithful to Him Who created him, as Moses also was in all his house. 3 For he has been counted worthy of more eminence than Moses, since the one having constructed it has more honour than the house. 4 For every house is built by somebody, but He Who built all things is God. 5 And Moses was indeed faithful in all his house as a servant, for a testimony of those things going to be spoken afterwards. 6 Christ, though, is faithful as a son over his house, whose house we are, if we hold fixed the firm confidence and the rejoicing of the hope until the end.
Daisy Pawa Do you think when Moses spent 40 days w/ God on Mt Sinai that he would have come to "see" or "understand" the form of God, whether ONE or three in one? Rather than "proving" the trinity, verse like that call into question the authority of the entire NT. I have come to see the NT like christian view the book of mormon. I believe the NT is a book written by man which was ADDED to the Scripture in order to move people away from the truth of the Tanakh.
Daisy Pawa The trinity defies comprehension to everyone but christians. (that is where it starts closing in on "cult status") Listen, you might DISAGREE with Judaism, but at least you understand it. Christians are like John Forbes Nash Jr, the subject of the movie, "A Beautiful Mind". He crossed the line into delusion. I left christianity, NOT because I did not believe it (that came later), I left because the answers stopped making sense. We all know God is omnipresent - everywhere all the time. My friend says, "There is no SPOT where God is NOT!" I love it. So imagine the universe as a box on the table. God is represented by the color BLUE. Looking into the box we see nothing but BLUE. Jesus is RED. What do we see looking into the box? You CAN'T see RED and BLUE. Why? Because if there is a "spot" that is RED, and not BLUE, then we violate the rule that "There is no SPOT where God is NOT!" If Jesus is "fully God", he can't be separate from.... the other God - the Father. Do we see purple? Again, we CAN'T (take a deep breath here....) If we saw purple, it would mean we have TWO Gods, both omnipresent yet filling the same space with the same properties If they have the same properties and fill the same space, then there is only one of them. We only have ONE God. That is what monotheism MEANS. Christianity INVENTED a second god and mixed stuff from the REAL God into a man and have been hopping from one foot to the other trying to make it make sense ever since
Robert Morley maybe you are looking for answers at the wrong places. I am a Christain, i have studied the bible and everything makes sense to me..there is no mystery about it.the Bible is Gods letter to man. everything is clear cut. God has been transparent about his dealings ever since. we just need to find the answers at the right places.
Who is Jesus in the bible? “I can do NOTHING on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the Will Of Him who sent me. (John 5;30) 13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his SERVANT Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go.(Book of Acts 3; 13). Qur'aan Chapter 19 Surah Maryam; 30. Esa/Jesus said, “I am the SERVANT of God. He has given me the Scripture, and made me a prophet. 31. And has made me blessed wherever I may be; and has enjoined on me prayer and charity, so long as I live. 32. And kind to my mother, and He did not make me a disobedient rebel. 33. So Peace is upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the Day I get resurrected alive.” 34. That is Esa son of Maryam-the Word of truth about which they doubt. 35. It is not for Allah to have a child-glory be to Him. To have anything done, He says to it, “Be,” and it becomes. 36. Esa said; "Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.” 37. But the various factions differed among themselves. So woe to those who disbelieve from the scene of a tremendous Day. Surah Al-Kahf, Verse 102: أَفَحَسِبَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَن يَتَّخِذُوا عِبَادِي مِن دُونِي أَوْلِيَاءَ إِنَّا أَعْتَدْنَا جَهَنَّمَ لِلْكَافِرِينَ نُزُلًا What! do then those who disbelieve think that they can take My servants to be guardians besides Me? Surely We have prepared hell for the entertainment of the unbelievers. via iQuran
@@mariamiyu8025 Quraan says jesus did not get killed, instead he was rather raised up. (See Q4;157-159). Therefore death of jesus mentioned in Q19;33 & Q4;159 cannot be the crucifixion! Prophet Muhammed has explained in Hadith that jesus will die in 2nd coming, after his golden rule of peace on earth. Then he will be resurrected on the day of judgement along with the other prophets and everyone else, to stand for accountability in front of the 1 and only Mighty Creator, Muslims call Allah, Christians and Jews call YHWH or Elohim. Abu Huraira reported: The Prophet Muhammed, peace and blessings be upon him, said; “Blessed is he who lives after the coming of the Messiah Esa (jesus). Blessed is he who lives after the coming of the Messiah. It will be announced for the heavens in the land, and it will be announced for the earth in the crops. If you were to sow your seed upon the rock, it would surely grow. You will not have greed for each other, nor will you envy each other, nor will you hate each other, until a man will pass by a lion and he will not harm him and he will walk over a snake and it will not harm him. You will not have greed for each other, nor will you envy each other, nor will you hate each other.” Source: Ḥadīth Abī Bakr al-Anbārī 47 Hadith Ahmad (9349) narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I am the closest of people to ‘Esa son of Maryam because there was no Prophet between him and me…” Then he mentioned his descent at the end of time. Then he said: “And Esa will remain for as long as Allaah wills he should remain, then he will die and the Muslims will offer the funeral prayer for him and bury him.” Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah (2182). Hadith Al-Bukhaari (3435) and Muslim (28) narrated from ‘Ubaadah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever bears witness that there is no god but Allaah alone, with no partner or associate, and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger, and that ‘Esa is His slave and Messenger, a word which Allaah bestowed upon Maryam and a spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is real, and Hell is real, Allaah will admit him through whichever of the gates of Paradise he wishes.” We ask Allaah to make us steadfast in faith and to cause us to die as believers.
It's a great question, and I think the answer is quite obvious That said, and to be fair, it is not the word that calls for attention on such cases, but rather, the implications that come from the terms(or word) - that is to say, that people should conform to a god and doctrine that is nowhere practised, taught or preached by anyone, in all of Bible history - which would include, though not limited-to the son of GOD himself.
Because it was unbiblical. If you accept Triune God it's Equalivient that Triune God is Israelites God in Old Testament which very unlikely if we read Bible carefully rather listen to Church's Leader.
@@EmJay2022 @Em Jay begotten realy , that mean the father is the first the alpha, not jesus the alpha and the first because it happen that father begot him in certain period. And in the bible evry one can be begotten and born from god “Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.” (1John 4:7 NASB)
@@islammyreligionmonotheismm1346 Yes really, he is the ONLY begotten of God. His birth is a direct result of God's will. Yours is NOT and neither is any prophet's birth directly from the will of God, only Jesus. You quote 1 John 4:7 out of context because you are ignorant to the bible. The bible speaks of two births the natural and the spiritual. John speaks to the spiritual rebirth not the natural. Also you do not understand the analogy of the alpha and omega and what that actually means. It has nothing to do with order.
@@EmJay2022 so your god father is women give natural birth , wow! Before he give this birth, forgive me to say that He had an animal sex operation like human, so he can give birth of his son, so weird. That's proof Christianty came from the old tradition of greek and roman, god can make love to a human woman and give birth to a godly human with two nature human and god. Jesus christ is only a man send by god no more, and when god speak about his children, is only metaphorical. Jesus christ when time came fir his ascended to the sky, he give the clear message of how to gain the eternal life in his testimony, wich is in john 17-3 when said, thus the eternal life that they may know you the onky true God (referring the father) and jesus christ whom you send. Clear acknowledge to succeed in the after life the eternal life
@@islammyreligionmonotheismm1346 Where does it say in the bible God had "sex" with a women? This is such an ignorant and shameful interpretation of Christianity made only to provoke. So by your foolish logic, God also had sex with the earth when Adam was created...right? If God had given many animals the ability to reproduce asexually, or without sex, then why do you find it so hard to believe that He did this with a women? You are right, Jesus is a man. But you are wrong if you think you are anything like him. It is not about him having dual natures, it's about him having a perfect nature. You and I are sinners. We have a fallen human nature, Jesus Christ was sinless. He never sinned against God. He has a perfect human nature. This is only possible when you are close to God in relationship and only God's true son can have that. We are not born God's sons. We are born as enemies to God because we sin. Jesus died so that His spirit can be given to us so we too can have the same real relationship to God that he had and be made into true son's and daughters. The only way to get into heaven is to believe this and believe in your heart that Jesus is the unique child of God and that he sacrificed his life so we can be reconciled to God.
@@canderssonswedican7486 Ert matematiska fel som påstår sig ''vara Gud'' som ska bränna allihopa i ett evigt helvete om man inte tror på att 1+1+1=1, till och med dem som aldrig har hört om Kristendom innan skall också brinna enligt din ''gud'' som är full av visdom!
@@misteranonymous5784 Necesito que me espliques que es mas pesado, un bote de frigoles o' el concepto de Dios y quien es Dios, estoy sequro que no sabes cual es el concepto de ninquno de los dos. Dime, es Jesus "Dios?" It is better to stay in the English vernacular as it is a more descriptive language, you statement is a little vague are you telling or asking me if it is fair that God is condeming those who do not believe is his tri-une nature to eternal separation from him?
@@canderssonswedican7486 I don't speak Spanish, I thought that you spoke Swedish because your name is Candersson (a Swedish name) and then after that Swedican and I am from Sweden.
+Rg Drake //Trinity logic : 1+1+1 = 1 Makes sense ?// It's obvious, you can't make an argument from scripture, to refute it, so you resort to silly little comments. Typical of your type.
Haukman66 Sorry but Trinity is not a Original Christian doctrine or from original teachings of Jesus. Rather emerging from Corrupted Churches as well as evil political PAGAN leaders like Constantine influencing them.
+Mahesa Pardede //ISLAM might seems violent & lustful, but CHRISTIANITY is the delusional one for believing this concept// Whoa, such a brilliant thought. You must be right.
it seems that THE WORD is the actual name of what Jesus was as Christ. That which was in the thought and mind of the father became flesh and spoke to us about who the father is.
And God is a spirit, and thus because a spirit cannot become less of itself or something other than itself, especially the Spirit that is God, the Word, which is the Creator, has to also be God.
Thank you for having the guts to bring this out. For many years I have pondered and searched this out. I. finally just had to accept that Scripture just doesn't teach this. However I don't go around sharing this with just anyone because most people don't have a deep enough knowledge of Bible truth.
ever since i was little my mother told me that there is one god. i can't remember that she told anything about the holy trinity and that that is god. when i grew up i was very confused because people said that they were christian but they worshipped jezus christ. my mother told me multiple times that jezus isn't god because it doesn't make any sense if you read the bible. when i was younger i read kid friendly versions of the bible and it didn't say it either. today i tried to read as many books in the bible that ''said'' that jezus and the holy spirit is god but i couldn't find it. what my mother also told that many people didn't read the bible and only follow what other people say, so i hope that jehova lead people to the right path and open their eyes to the truth.
John 1:18. John 8:58. John 10:31-38. John 14;6-7. John 20:27-29. Philippians 2:5-8. Titus 2:13 Goodnight. Read your bible. I mean the entire book of John was written to explain Jesus was God. It’s scary how many of you fall for this blasphemy. You might as well be Muslims because you obviously aren’t Christian’s.
With respect sir, it sounds to me like you're trying to understand an infinite God with a finite mind. one of the things authentic systematic theology teaches us, is that man cannot fully understand God on this side of eternity. And why should we expect to, since God ought to be our fixed point of reference due to the fact that our judgements have misled all of us (Jeremiah 17:9)? If I was capable of understanding everything there is to know about God, then God wouldn't be able to meet my deepest needs! Why? because, I would be capable of knowing my deepest needs and wouldn't need an authoritative, fixed point of reference to test my judgements with to confirm to me that my judgements are based on truth and not merely my opinion. But what if I conclude that, because I have the Bible, I can fully understand God, and therefore, don't need to ever feel like I have to conclude from time to time, that I just won't understand some things about God on this side of heaven? Well, seeing as you have concluded and have also insisted that no-one learns about the trinity strictly by reading the Bible, where do you think something as controversial and confusing like the trinity came from? Theologians read the Bible, and came up with the name "Trinity". Does it make sense? No! you know what else doesn't make sense to me? why God loves me! But He does, and I believe He does because, I believe the Bible is the Word of God, and it says He does! I don't understand it, but accept it by faith! Obviously, the Bible describes the Father as God! But what about the Son and Holy Spirit? John and Paul make it abundantly clear that all things that have been made were made through Jesus Christ (John 1:1-3; Colossians 1:16-17). So, if Jesus isn't God, then He is a created being. But I take what the apostle John says by faith when He says that "All things were made by Him, and apart from Him, nothing was made that has been made". People ask me to explain the trinity, and I tell them that a triangle is a singular shape, made up of three sides. If one side moves, then the entire thing (singular) moves. Because all three are God, not one does a single thing without the other! When I sing to and honor with my lips one member of the Godhead (trinity) I am giving just as much honor to the other two as I am whichever member of the trinity I am acknowledging God at that moment. Now, I believe and do acknowledge all three members, but during my personal, private devotional time, I don't stress, or even try to focus on one member of the trinity, because there is only one God! therefore, I bask and bathe and rest in the everlasting love of the God I worship! Do I understand it? Nope! again, just like I don't understand why God loves me enough to send His only begotten Son to earth with a body able to be broken and die, to die for me to provide me with the opportunity to spend eternity with Him! I believe the Holy Spirit is God, because in Acts chapter 5, Peter declares to Anninias that he had lied to the Holy Spirit, and after a few more words, declares that he hadn't lied to man but to God! At the end of the book of Acts, Paul declared that the Holy Spirit spoke through the mouth of Isaiah, and quoted from Isaiah chapter 6. In Isaiah chapter 6, it says that the Lord spoke to Isaiah and told him to say what is quoted in that section. I say this with love and prayers.
I was looking for this comment! As I try to learn more about the Trinity, I realized, our finite minds cannot comprehend the infinite wisdom of God. Another question that I asked a Unitarian that he cannot answer: If the Holy Spirit is not God, what is He then?
The problem with the definition of trinity is that they say They are coexistent Co substantial and co equal and all are God in three persons. NO verse for that ONE GOD FATHER OF US ALL MESSIAH SON OF GOD AND SON OF MAN AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD WHO PROCEEDS FROM GOD
"is a mystery that you cannot understand ... you just have to believe it" - this is a silly statement since no one generally claims this. How do you explain the point that God has no beginning? There is no human experience to compare that with; therefore, it's also a mystery.
Incorrect. The correct way to state it would be "It is a mystery that cannot be JUSTIFIED ... you just have to believe it". There being One True God can be justified through scripture, a tri-un God head on the hand, cannot be justified.
And Jesus answered him, “It is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.’” - Luke 4:8 These are Christians that see the lie of the Trinity. ❤🙏 mashallah!
John 1:18. John 8:58. John 10:31-38. John 14;6-7. John 20:27-29. Philippians 2:5-8. Titus 2:13 Read your bibles. I mean the entire book of John was written to explain Jesus was God. It’s scary how many of you fall for this blasphemy in the video. You might as well be Muslims because you obviously aren’t Christian’s.
Christians believe in ONE GOD, just as Christ Jesus quoted the SHEMA. The problem with Islam is that it fails to provide an understanding of the Trinity Doctrine because Muhammad didn't understand the revelation of Christ Jesus. In fact, Muhammad gets the Trinity Doctrine wrong in the Quran, so that is all the proof a Christian needs to expose Muhammad as a FALSE prophet. Islam doesn't give a reason for Christ Jesus' purpose of being divinely born upon this earth. What was the Gospel of Jesus? Muslims don't know because Muhammad the FALSE PROPHET failed to comprehend the message. It is not surprising to me you don't know the purpose of the Gospel of the Messiah (Christ Jesus)? You won't find it in the Quran..... The "perfectly preserved" Quran tells you in Arabic who Christ Jesus is if you have eyes to see. Sahih International Surah 9:31 They have taken their scholars and monks as lords 𝐛𝐞𝐬𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐬 𝐀𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐡 , 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐌𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐡, 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐲. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him. So, as written in Arabic, the LORD is Allah (The GOD) AND the Messiah (Christ Jesus). Scholars have to add bracketed text in order to clean up the error as written in Arabic. That verse proves that the Quran is NOT perfectly preserved as Islam claims. The LORD is "Allah" and the Messiah (Christ Jesus) just as it is written in our Bible. The Quran AFFIRMS the scripture that came before the Quran. So, if Muhammad taught anything different than what GOD revealed to the prophets before the Quran (and he did), then that exposes Muhammad as a false prophet because GOD cannot contradict HIMSELF. You as a mere mortal don't have the wisdom and knowledge to DEFINE who GOD is to your own satisfaction. Christ Jesus came into the world in the flesh and revealed the ONE TRUE GOD to all of humanity. The Trinity Doctrine is not an invention of men, it is the revelation received from Christ Jesus. The Triune Nature of the ONE TRUE GOD is found not only in the New testament scripture, but the Old Testament scripture as well. This is what scripture reveals: 1. The Father is God. 2. The Son is God. 3. The Spirit is God. 4. The Father is not the Son or the Spirit. 5. The Son is not the Father or the Spirit. 6. The Spirit is not the Father or the Son. 7. There is only one God. The revelation is what it is, you don't get to define WHO AND WHAT GOD is.....GOD reveals HIMSELF in this way; so, if you take the time to learn, then you will discover 𝑊𝐻𝑌 Christ Jesus came upon the earth in the remarkable way that HE DID. The PERFECTION of GOD's LOVE for us was revealed THROUGH CHRIST JESUS. Peace Be With You
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )
Yeah but.. John 10:30 hahaha they. They have been taught to ignore these scriptures that clearly refute that the trinity is false. Another one I have been using is: Ephesians 1:17-22 New Life Version 17 I pray that the great God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ may give you the wisdom of His Spirit. Then you will be able to understand the secrets about Him as you know Him better. 18 I pray that your hearts will be able to understand. I pray that you will know about the hope given by God’s call. I pray that you will see how great the things are that He has promised to those who belong to Him. 19 I pray that you will know how great His power is for those who have put their trust in Him. 20 It is the same power that raised Christ from the dead. This same power put Christ at God’s right side in heaven. 21 This place was given to Christ. It is much greater than any king or leader can have. No one else can have this place of honor and power. No one in this world or in the world to come can have such honor and power. 22 God has put all things under Christ’s power and has made Him to be the head leader over all things of the church.
"They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the third of three." And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment." (Qur'an 5:73)
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Its hard to fellowship with Trinitarians because they typically become so defensive once they know I am not a Trinitarian. But nearly 100% of the time I ask them to teach me the Trinity they never can.
Understanding the kingdom of God belongs not to all who say they believe in God, even Jesus who teach the path to kingdom of God have to speak in parables so that whoever hears would still not understand, whoever seeing yet still they could not see, even the Jews have been blinded of the truth and have rejected the Son of God, but it is clearly stated that salvation will come from the Jews and now its all over the gentile. For you to be certain that you are save, you should have the true understanding of the Bible and could be able to see with no contradiction whatsoever. I can teach you the trinity of God but that would deprived you of you're urged to search the truth of God, But I could guarantee you that the answer are all in the Bible, the Jews have seen it and have accepted it but ended up in making it a heresy due to Christ followers who become the Christians, its not invented by Christians but it is already imbedded in the Jewish theology. The Old Testament is a complete testimony of God but somehow something are not revealed not until the Revelation of Jesus in the New Testament, If you are a Unitarian then you are like the Jews who are clinging on what the Old testament only revealed and ignoring what Jesus have revealed. Teaser hint: When Moses saw the burning bush, how many presence or being are there in the burning bush? read the text carefully
Rita: What questions do you seek answers to? I do not know about those with whom you have spoken, I can tell you that while I am not defensive about the doctrine of the Trinity, because I believe quite firmly that denying the Trinity means one is not a Christian and is not saved, it causes me great consternation when one rejects it. (btw - my own brother denies the Trinity which means I have had many years of discussing this whole issue.) There is one thing that must be kept in mind: Does the doctrine of the Trinity make human sense? NO! Not at all. To my rational mind it is ludicrous. So what! I'm not God. Since when is something true only when it makes rational sense to me. The real question is does the Bible teach that God is three, separate persons while at the same time there is only ONE God? The answer is yes. That's the real issue. Not whether it makes rational sense or whether the word Trinity is used in the Bible. Just like those who belong to Oneness Pentecostal churches who hold to the "oneness" doctrine cannot find the word "oneness" anywhere in the Bible but that does not stop them from trying to teach it. So too, the fact that the word Trinity is not found in the Bible is of no import. What matters is whether the foundation is there and that that is who God is. I have spoken at length with members of the UPCI, Mormon, and Watchtower over this issue and have found in each case that they simply gloss over the origins of their false teaching that it came, not from careful exegetical work in the Word, but from a supposed "revelation" or internal work of the "spirit" and then made the Bible fit their new-found beliefs.
Rick Pettey Careful, brother. The bible o\is painstakingly clear as to what we must believe to have salvation. The new testament speaks of our belief in Jesus as the propitiation of our sins as necessary for salvation ALL over the place. Every writer says it in multiple ways, using different wording so that you can't botch this essential doctrine. If you are unable to find a single Scripture that says we must believe Jesus is God to be saved, or have to gather it in your own understanding, then you must be willing to walk away from that belief. I am a Christian. I hold to The Bible as ultimate authority and believe that Jesus was the Christ and died so that I might be reconciled to God. To say that we must have a perfect understanding of who God is in order to be saved is a belief that your own views cannot afford. God does not demand that kind of intelligence or scholarship.
Spencer Wentworth Sorry, but you assume facts not in evidence. I no where said that one must achieve a level of intellectual understanding or scholarship to be saved. Christ Himself dismisses such a notion (Matt. 11:25-30). However, it is only because of false teachings that have been substituted for the truth that a more thorough and detailed explanation of the Christian faith is necessitated. Such was the reason for the writings of the 3 ecumenical creeds (Apostles' , Nicene, and Athanasian). The biblical truth that God is one and yet at the same time three, distinct persons cannot be comprehended by our reason but it IS the clear and unequivocal teaching of God's Word. It is only due to false teaching such as you spread following the false teachers of the early church (i.e., Montanus, Arius, Paul of Somosata, Praxeas, Noetus, Pelagius, etc.). It is easy to confess the teaching of the Bible, that the Triune God was so concerned about our salvation that the second Person of the Trinity, God the Son, became man to bear the sins of the world. Though I cannot fully comprehend the truth of that statement, the veracity of it is beyond question. It is only when people such as yourself, depending upon sin-stained reason, attempt to deny such truth relying solely upon fallen reason that a response is demanded. Though it brings me no joy and is not spoken in anger or any other human sentiment, I must publicly confess that the "god" whom you proclaim is NOT the saving God of Holy Scripture: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. You seem to be quite sincere. Sincerity, however, counts for nothing. No matter how sweetly you speak about Jesus (as did the heretics of the early church, likewise in much sincerity) that "god" whom you are espousing is NOT the one, true God of the Bible and therefore your message is NOT Christian. Soli Deo Gloria.
AD325 @Nicea - “The Greek philosophically minded Alexandrian theologian led by Athanasius, won the day. Those more under the earlier influence of Jewish Monotheism (of GOD) were defeated. Dissenters who refused to sign the agreement were immediately banished. The Church was now taken over and dictated by the theologians strongly influenced by the Greek mind ... ‘When the Greek mind and the Roman mind, instead of the Hebrew mind, came to dominate the Church, there occurred a disaster from which the Church has never recovered, either in doctrine or practice.’” [“The Doctrine of Trinity” pp. 151-152 by Anthony F. Buzzard & Charles F. Hunting].
Your definition of The Presevation of Gods word is very narrow and lacking knowledge. The world is huge and there is much that you dont know. Bible says God will preserve His word forever. The doom and gloom outlook on How Gods word has been perverted is foolish.
@@wdbible129 Actually it is not. God has preserved THE religion of tawhid ( monotheism) via the last and final of his messengers destined with a message to the whole world : islam
@@ahmedbassam400 All Nations Were aware of Gods Word in The Books Of Moses, The Psalms, And The Prophets. I made a video on this to prove that through scripture
Just saw your question. Love to. The Bible inspired by God interprets itself, so we need to let it answer - 2 Pet 1:20-21 Rev 3:14 - Gods son Jesus was the beginning of Gods creation so he had a prehuman existence. Col 1:15-17 - After his creation (beginning) he worked with his father to create the other angels, universe including earth. Prov 8:22-30 - He was Gods master worker who had a beginning as Gods earliest achievements. Gen 1:28 - Jesus was with his father when they made humans on earth so God was talking to his son when he said "Let us make man in our image" Thanks Have a nice day 😊
Simple. You have to read the next verse. Genesis 1:27 (NKJV) 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Notice the He, Him, and His.
@Son Of Israel precisely my point brother. The trinity was formed 300 years after Jesus. A lot of African, Middle Eastern, Eastern European Christians believe in One God.
You're believing a false teaching; the author of this video clearly has no understanding from the Holy spirit; The rapture isnt mentioned verbatim in the Bible; it doesn't mean that it's not in the Bible; 1 John 5:7 “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” John 14:26 King James Version (KJV) 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Isaiah 11:2 King James Version (KJV) 2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord; John 10:30 “I and my Father are one. Isaiah 43:10 Isaiah 44:6 King James Version (KJV) 6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isaiah 45:21 (KJV) 21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the Lord? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Simple illustration of the trinity right now at this exact moment Jesus is at the right hand of the Father at this exact moment; thats two we have the Holy Spirit with us right now thsts 3 - the trinity- Another illustration of the trinity is when jhon baptized Jesus and the Holy spirit appears as a dove; the holy spirit then leads Jesus into the wilderness
Jesus was fully man, and fully God. After He won the victory, by having the flesh die for sin, He ascended into Heaven where He is the One True God, and all authority is given unto Him. If there is a trinity, then that leaves the other two powerless.
Heb. 1:8 in the King James Version (AV or KJV) is rendered: “But unto the son he saith, thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.” Since “he saith” and the second “is” (found after “righteousness”) in the above verse are not actually found in the original manuscripts and have been added by the KJV translators, they are found in italics in most printings of the KJV. But more importantly (as a quick glance into any interlinear Greek-English New Testament will show) the first “is” (found after “God”) in the above verse is also not in the original manuscripts but has been added by some modern translators. Yes, literally the original NT Greek manuscripts read: “Toward but the son the throne of you the god into the age of the age. No one should deny that the title theos (NT Greek word meaning “God,” “god,” “mighty one,” “divine,” etc.) can be applied to Jesus (at least in the writings of John - see the DEF and BOWGOD studies), just as it was applied in the scriptures to angels, judges of Israel, Moses, and (according to some trinitarian authorities) even the kings of Israel. But theos is never applied to Jesus with the most high sense that is given only to the Almighty, Most High, only true God. So it could, perhaps, have been used at Heb. 1:8 in its positive secondary sense: “Your throne, o mighty one [theos], is ...”. This seems even more probable when we remember that Paul is really quoting from Ps. 45:6. Psalm 45 is celebrating an Israelite king’s marriage, and the psalmist applies the words of Ps. 45:6, 7 literally to an ancient Israelite king. In fact, the trinitarian New American Standard Bible (NASB), Reference Edition, explains in a footnote for Ps. 45:1, “Probably refers to Solomon as a type of Christ.” So, according to this trinitarian Bible, the words of Ps. 45:6, although figuratively referring to Jesus, were literally applied to an ancient Israelite king (probably King Solomon, it says). So if Ps. 45:6 is properly translated, “your throne, O God ...” then that ancient Israelite King (Solomon?) was also literally called “O God” (or “O god”?). In fact, the highly trinitarian New American Bible, St. Joseph Edition, 1970, explains in a footnote for this verse: “The Hebrew king was called ... ‘God,’ not in the polytheistic sense common among the ancient pagans, but as meaning ‘godlike’ or ‘taking the place of God’.” The trinitarian Easy-to-read-Version also says in a footnote for this passage: “God .... here the writer might be using the word ‘God’ as a title for the king.” (Cf. NIV Study Bible f.n. for Pss. 45:6 and 82:1, 6.) And the revised 1991 ed. of the NAB actually translates Ps. 45:6, 7 as “Your throne, O god.”) The NAB (St. Joseph ed.,1970) goes on to explain, however, that others have translated this verse as, “Your throne is the throne of God” and refers us to 1 Chron. 29:23 “where Solomon’s throne is referred to as the throne of the LORD [YHWH].” Now we’re getting closer to the most likely intention of Heb. 1:8. There is good evidence that the proper translation of Heb. 1:8 (as well as Ps. 45:6) should be “your throne is God forever” or “God is your throne forever.”
In genesis 1 Jehovah was talking to his firstborn son . Jesus was a masterworker. But Jehovah used him to create Bible says everything was created through jesus When I say to my friend let us build a house. Its 2 people that's gonna build No one would assume its 1 person
John 5 vs 36 But I have a greater witness than John’s; for the works which the Father has given Me to finish-the very works that I do-bear witness of Me, that the Father has sent Me. 37 And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
@@tuckerchisholm1005 so angels that represent Jehovah spoke as if they were Jehovah but that doesnt mean they were literally Jehovah God Jeremiah speaks about Jehovah God in that verse u quoted
“My Father and your Father My God and your God” A risen Jesus calls His Father His God there is no debate about this. Trinity was created by man at the council of Nicaea it has nothing to do with the Bible, if Trinity was true Jesus would have been the first to explain it how 3in 1 works
Quran is the word of Allah & it is a guideline for humanity. And Quran is still in it’s original form because Allah himself protect it from corruption. Quran has no power of it’s own.
Very great points made here. Some cite 1 John 5:7 as the description of the trinity. Anyone who’s study New Testament studies will know that this verse was not found in any of the original Greek texts, rather it was added in at a later date to fit the trinity concept. Almost every Christian scholar knows this. If the trinity was true, this would make sense: God sent Himself to earth and God humbled God while on earth. God was still Divine, but God did not know the hour of the judgement (Mark 13:32). God also cursed a fig tree because even though God Created all things including the fig tree, for some reason God didn’t know that it wasn’t the season for figs, so God curses His own creation, which was the fig tree (Mark 11:14). God then prayed to Himself asking... Himself to let the fate of crucifixion pass (Mathew 26:39) from Him. God then was affixed on the cross and God cried out... to Himself "why have I forsaken myself?" (Mathew 27:46) and then God sacrificed Himself... to Himself (no one is on bargaining terms with God) and God died for the sins of mankind. God changed his ways of holding people accountable for their sins, despite how He said "I am Jehovah; I do not change.” (Malachi 3:6) and how the Bible says that God “does not vary or change like the shifting shadows.” (James 1:17)... instead of simply forgiving mankind when they repent (like He did since he beginning of mankind on earth, all throughout the Old Testament).
Guy no original language remains only copied text that we have today, if you qurstion 1John 5:7 That is your problem coz even the whole original text from OT and NT are all obliterated not just 1John 5:7. Now if you want to attack that verse you are lost. Go to Codexes at Alexandrean text Such as Codex Sinaiticus, Codex Vaticanus, and Codex Alexandrinus those are copied materials from the original writings and none of the original writings had survived from antiquity with the exception of dead scroll which recently found at Qumran cave in 1947 by a shephered boy, though that is ancient but again copied text by the scribes of that time.
No wrong answer, but I am curious: your comment could be interpreted in such a way that I might come to the conclusion that you don’t believe in the NT or Jesus in general. That OT God and following His statutes are enough to save someone in the end (like David or Moses). Again, no wrong answer, but am I reading you right?
No need to lie about the verse , the Trinity is from hell and that verse doesn't help them , so don't be afraid and find a way to cover it up , it supports the truth , not the Trinity , God's word is perfect , if you don't believe this ...what is your entire soul in the hands of? The king James is the perfect word of God , and the only word of God , and that verse is there not by man's will , by God's , so don't worry when they use it , these three ARE one makes perfect sense and that's why it doesn't say these three and IN one , big difference
Matthew 28 19 was Changed by the RCC in second century it was originally written go and make disciples of all nations in my Name. Oneness the name of Jesus is highly exalted above every name all power has been given to me go and make disciples of all nations in my Name
John 8:58 "Before Abraham was, I am" (jesus to the pharisees who then, enraged, said "Thou makest thyself to be God"), and John 17, Jesus prayed to someone else greater than himself, not to himself, for his earthly disciples that they (his disciples) may be one even as he and his Father are one. Conclusion: Jesus and the Father are one, in committed purpose, but separate individuals.
It’s called the God head Jesus is God in the flesh God came into his own creation he’s unique hence the term the only beggoten of the father God is so spirit the spirit is what came into the man Christ he’s was 100 percent man and 100 percent God can’t question Gods power.
Paul Wise 1 John 5:20 King James Version (KJV) 20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. Old Testament Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. Isa 43:12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God. Isa 43:13 Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it? Isa 43:14 Thus saith the LORD, your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; For your sake I have sent to Babylon, and have brought down all their nobles, and the Chaldeans, whose cry is in the ships. Isa 43:15 I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King. New Testament Joh 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. Joh 8:25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. Joh 8:26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. Joh 8:27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father. Joh 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. Joh 8:29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him. Joh 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him. One saviour one God “I am he” Clear as day John 1 King James Version (KJV) 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 20:28-29 King James Version (KJV) 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Paul Wise 🤦♂️ yes God is a spirit the spirit dwelt in the man Christ the flesh isn’t God but the spirit in the flesh was God I can help you understand this your flesh soul spirit but yet you are one!!! Created in the image of God. Yes Jesus is God that’s the name that saves so yes I do know and understand that the flesh wasnt God but the spirit that dwelt in the flesh was God!! Here are some verses for you sir that declares Jesus being God in the flesh. 1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. Old Testament “I am he” Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. Isa 43:12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God. Isa 43:13 Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it? New Testament “I am he” Joh 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. Joh 8:25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. One saviour and “I am he” Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. So yes!!! Jesus is the word there is only one God. 1 John 5:7 King James Version (KJV) 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Paul Wise and also you are correct God did raise him on the third day haha Jesus did!!!! Joh 2:18 Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things? Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Joh 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? Joh 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body. Joh 2:22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said. Why did Jesus say he was going to raise himself?🤔
Paul Wise are you the only begotten son of God? The believers are called the sons of God but Jesus is called the only Begotten son of God becuase jesus is God in the flesh Jesus is unique becuase jesus came into his own creation and they recieved him not. Jesus is called the begotten son of God becuase it didn’t take sexual actions from a female and a man it was done by God coming into his creation He came into the womb of a women is this not hard to undertand? Jesus is God in his creation in the flesh the flesh is not God Jesus was a 100 percent man and 100 percent God, God wasng the flesh the man Christ the flesh wasn’t God. The Holy sprit God was in the flesh some people say the have the Holy Spirit in them that’s true but are they God? It’s very simple to understand once you are a believer. Thomas called Jesus God and Jesus said Thomas becuase Thou has seen and believe bless are those who haven’t seen but yet believed Jesus never told him not to Call him God and we both know there is one God one saviour. The spirit is God not the flesh but Jesus was in the flesh. Jesus is God in the flesh
Anytime you say we should read in a doctrine into Gods Word is very dangerous, the Bible clearly defines who He is, woe to all who lead people astray, especially with man’s doctrine
First of all, Jesus was born through the Holy Spirit. The Bible says that Mary conceived by the HS, the HS is literally Jesus' Father. Second of all, the HS came down as a dove not that the dove was the HS another thing God is One and He can be on earth or in the sky all at the same time doesn't mean He is 3 "persons"
@@viviennebaptiste where does it say god is everywhere in the bible,I can see his deeds are everywhere.And just because you are filled with the Holy Spirit doesn't mean the Holy Spirit doesn't have a soul of his own.
@@viviennebaptiste The bible says the father is in the 3rd heaven,the holy spirit is on the earth,2 different places so they can't be the same.Jesus was baptized and the father said this is my son who I am well pleased, Is Jesus a ventriloquist?
@@m97018 The invisible father is the spirit, while Yahusha is the manifestation of the spirit into flesh. His name literally means Yahuah is the saviour or better I AM your Saviour as he already declared that he (Yahuah) will be king, Sheppard, Lion, Lamb, Water, Bread etc., so how come that Yahusha is king and Yahuah too? It's simple, Because THEY ARE ONE something invisible and something visible is like calculating 0+1, which is astonishingly *ONE*
@@MrJole777 You show me where it says in the bible that the father and holy spirit are the same spirit.I have read the bible and I can't find where it says the father and holy spirit are the same,they have always been separate.
For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is giving... and he shall be called, Wonderful, Counselor, the MIGHTY GOD, The Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace Is 9:6 And Thomas answered and said unto him(Jesus) “my Lord and MY GOD” John 20:28 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God AND THE WORD WAS GOD... and the Word BECAME FLESH AND DWELT AMONG US(and we behold His glory as of the only begotten of the Father) John 1:1,14 “Let US make man in OUR own image, after OUR likeness.” Genesis 1:26- So God created man IN HIS own image- Genesis 1:27 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I AM THE FIRST, and I AM THE LAST; and beside me THERE IS NO GOD. Isaiah 44:6 I, the LORD--the FIRST AND THE LAST--I am He." Isaiah 41:4 When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. But He (Jesus) placed His right hand on me and said, "Do not be afraid. I am the FIRST AND THE LAST, Revelation 1:17 To the angel of the church in Smyrna write: These are the words of the FIRST AND THE LAST, who died and returned to life(Jesus Christ) Revelation 2:8 [5] Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: [6] Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Philippians 2:5-6 “For there are THREE that bear record in heaven, The Father, The Word(John 1:1,14 Rev 19:13), and the Holy Ghost: and THESE THREE ARE ONE.” “I and My Father are ONE.” John 10:30
Amen! Hallelujah! Praise Jesus! Thank you my brother in Christ for speaking the truth & listing the Holy Word so that they can look for themselves. God bless you😇
The Holy Spirit has been taking me to ALL of these same passages! No joke, I have all these listed. You're a God send. Keep spreading the Good News & the Truth! There's so much confusion out there.
I and my father are one in terms of direction, in terms of believes, faith, way, but are not one person. Read the context and understand it. The father is better than I, the father is better than all I can of myself do nothing without the well of the father. He is making it clear to you that without the father he is nothing.
I believe that if two verses in the Bible conflict then I am missing a piece of the puzzle or better, I don't understand something. The problem that I have with the trinity is that there are verses that conflict with the trinity doctrine. Let's keep this simple. Would someone explain how this verse goes along with the trinity doctrine? 1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; So if there is one God... and the man Jesus is the mediator between God and men, then how could he be God? Here is another question: How could anyone not believe in the trinity today? If they go to church, most likely they get brainwashed with this doctrine from an early age. I know that I was. Only after searching the scriptures and finding conflicts to the doctrine, I began to doubt the trinity theory. God is the Father. This is repeated all over the New Testament. Jesus is the Son of God. This is what he claimed and it is also repeated quite a lot. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God.
To: Jeff Krueger. It is unfortunate that you think that you were brainwashed ad a child BC that was God's way of getting you the Truth. I Tim 2:5 is just showing us that there is only one God the FATHER, like Eph 4:6 also says. That doesn't mean that the SON isn't also GOD (See John 5:24 & 10:33). The Holy Spirit is also GOD (Acts 5:3-4 & II Cor 3:17) All three persons carry the name GOD , so we accept the Trinity as the GOD of the Bible.
Lonnie Satterfield Hi Lonnie. I am so glad that brought up these Bible verses. Lets look at them: 1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Do you see what I see? This verse shows us there is no trinity. There is one God. There is one mediator between God and men. That is the MAN Jesus Christ Just how can Jesus be God if he is the mediator between God and men. God is the Father. He is the one and only God. This verse by itself is irrefutable. It is verses like this one that I read that when I truly grasped it, I came to realize all the brainwashing that I received as a child in various churches. Let's look at the next verse that you mention. Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Lonnie, here also the bible is clear that God is the Father and he is above all. That means no co-equal trinity. Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. I don't see what this has to do with the trinity. It is a great verse, but I don't see it applying to this discussion. Joh 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. I love how trinitarians think that this proves anything. Jesus never said he was God. He said that He and his Father are one. The Jews said that he said that he was God, but that is not recorded in the Bible. It does not matter what these Jews said about Jesus. It matters what Jesus said about himself. Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Act 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. I believe that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. Therefore the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father. The Holy Spirit is not a separate person who is co-equal to God. No, the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father who is able to come to all of us. 2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Both Jesus and the Father are called Lord in the N.T. What I say about this verse is that the Father is the Spirit and where the Spriit of the Father is, there is liberty. I have studied this for a long time. The Bible verses that convinced me that the spirit of the Father is the Holy Spirit is this: Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. In verse 23, I can not find the words "we" and "our" in the Greek. I am not an expert, but from my studies, I can't find them. If those words are left out, I believe, one can find the true meaning of the verse. If a man loves Jesus, he will keep his words (live by his teachings), and the Father will love him, and will come unto him, and make abode with him. This is truly wonderful. This is what I believe.
Jeff Krueger Sorry, The verse I meant to send is John 5:18 and not 24. In the verse Jesus claimed to be EQUAL with the Father just as Phil 2:6 also states. Of course I realize that you will try to explain away that Truth like you did with 10:33 where He claimed His Deity to them and that's why they said that He made Himself, GOD. You mentioned that Jesus couldn't be GOD if He is the Mediator. That's absurd reasoning BC He is just showing us that He intercedes to God the Father for us like the Holy Spirit does in ROM 8:26-27. This is no way detracts from the Deity of the Son or the Spirit. Since you won't accept this BC of your preconceived assumptions it will be interesting to see how you wiggle out of seeing the Truth in Her 1:8 where it is abundantly clear that God the Father calls the Son, GOD. The early church fathers taught the Trinity way before we entered the discussion BC they searched the Scriptures diligently. (See Council of Nicea AD 325)
Lonnie Satterfield Hi Linnie. Alright, lets look at John 5:18. Joh 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. Lonnie, the jews wanted to kill Jesus. We hear this over and over in the New Testament. they saw him break the sabbath. Also when Jesus said that God was his Father, they turned it around and said that Jesus is making himself equal to God. This verse never says that Jesus said that he was God. It does not say that Jesus said that he was equal to God. It clearly says that Jesus said that God was his Father. There is nothing here at all to support a doctrine of the trinity. So you think that I am explaining away John 10:33. No, I am not. I am looking for the truth in it. I used to believe in the trinity also. I bet growing up I heard it over a thousand times. When I started reading the Bible on my own, and seeking the truth of God then I started to see verses that disagreed with the trinity doctrine. I then started to question it, then I started to doubt it. Then when I started looking at all the verses that trinitarians us to prove it, at that time I knew it was false. Lets look at John 10:33, but lets read the whole story: oh 10:24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. Joh 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. Joh 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one. Joh 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Joh 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? Joh 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? Joh 10:37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. Joh 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. Joh 10:39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand, So the Jews come to Jesus and ask him if he is the Messiah. They want him to tell them plainly. Here, again, Jesus calls God his Father. He make the statement that He, himself, give his sheep eternal life. That is very bold. Then they took up stones to stone him. Here the Jews again in verse 33 state that Jesus makes himself God. Then Jesus asks them: "Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? Lets read this verse again: Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? Verse 36 here clearly states the Jesus again says that he is the "Son of God" He never said that he was God. Never. I am not explaining away anything. I am just reading what it says. Nothing more, nothing less. Now I have a question for you. It is from John 10:36. This verse clearly states Say ye of him whom the Father hath sanctified and sent to the world... If there is a trinity and the Father is God and Jesus is also co-equal God, why did God have to sanctify God? Why does God need to be sanctified?
Jeff Krueger Good question - The word means to "set apart" so the Son was set apart to do the redeeming work for sinners by dying and rising up again which was the reason He came. It is sad that you reached a point in your life that you began to question and doubt this pivotal doctrine that Christians have espoused for centuries. I applaud your parents for revealing the doctrine to you and urge you to stop trying to prove them wrong. I didn't understand a lot about the Triune God while growing up but it is abundantly unambiguous to me now.You seem to believe that for Jesus to be the Son of God , he can't also be God too. Your faulty reasoning is deceiving you. The Father call Jesus GOD in Heb 1:8 so why can't you get by your misconceptions and accept what the Father says. In Isa 6:8 we have the teaching that there is ONE true God by the pronoun "I" and that He is three persons by the pronoun "us". Just believe the Truth about who God is.
Jesus is God 1a. 'The Word' is God (John 1:1) 1b. Jesus is 'The Word' (John 1:14) 2a. Only God can redeem us (Psalm 49:7-9) 2b. Jesus can redeem us (titus 2:13-14) 3a. God is the First and the Last (Isaiah 44:6) 3b. Jesus is the First and the Last (Revelation 1:17-18) 4a. God is the Lord of lords (Deuteronomy 10:17) 4b. Jesus is the Lord of lords (Revelation 19:16, Revelation 17:14) 5a. Everyone is a sinner (1 John 1:8, Ecclesiastes 7:20, Romans 3:10) 5b. Jesus is sinless (1 Peter 2:22, 2 Corinthians 5:21, 1 John 3:5) 6a. God is our only saviour (Isaiah 43:11-12, Luke 1:47, 1 Timothy 2:3-4) 6b. Jesus is our saviour (1 John 4:14, Acts 13:23, Luke 2:11, Titus 2:13, 2 Peter 1:1, Philippians 3:20, 2 Timothy 1:10) 7a. We are only allowed to worship God (Revelation 22:9, Leviticus 19:4, Exodus 20:4-5, 1 John 5:21) 7b. Jesus accepted worship (Matthew 28:9, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 2:11, Matthew 28:16-17, John 9:38, Luke 24:50-52)
You forgot my favorite verse. Hebrews 1:8 - But to the Son He says: “Your throne, *O God,* is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
GOD cannot be given anything from anyone, in terms of; power, authority, etc GOD cannot come from anything, as in; a source and cause GOD cannot be equaled; as He is above all things GOD declared Himself the source and cause of all things; alone and by Himself Therefore and with that being said, Jesus is not GOD
@@smalltimer4370 How do you explain Hebrews 1 verses 8 and 9? It's the author arguing how Christ is far above just angels and is in fact God. Hebrews 1:8 - But *to the Son* He says: "Your throne, *O God,* is forever and ever; Hebrews 1:9 - *Therefore God, Your God,* has anointed You With the oil of gladness. Either there's contradiction within the written word because of the Old Testament passages clearly stating God is one or Jesus Christ, and the Father, are both God. Hence "therefore God, your God". Makes sense with John 1:1 too where the Word *was with and was* God. Then in Colossians 1 we learn Jesus Christ was before all things, made all things for himself, sustains them, and in him dwells all fullness.
@@quentoncollins8861 Who says being above the angels makes one GOD? Where are such things written? The account is clear as day, Jesus was anointed to the throne 'prepared for Him' by His own GOD and Father, and was 'given' all authority 'by GOD' over heaven and earth - to which I'd add, and here again, the record shows that Jesus is clearly not GOD, as GOD cannot be given anything in such cases. Having said that and in response to Heb 1.8-9 the answer is in the details; 1. The words found in verses 8-9 were originally written by the human Psalmist 2. The original citation was in-reference to a human King anointed to the throne of David prepared by YHWH 3. The title of GOD given to the human King did not make Him equal-to or GOD Himself, but moreso, it was used to identify the Son of GOD in power, as a GOD with a GOD above Him - and that the GOD of the son, is the GOD over all, through all and in us all - in other words; the GOD of the son called GOD, is the Most High GOD. *RE:* ...the Old Testament passages clearly stating God is one... *A.* Correct, GOD as-in; YHWH alone, who is One, unequaled, none like Him - none before or after, etc, etc, etc. *RE:* or Jesus Chris and the Father, are both God *A.* Doesn't work, we cannot have one GOD distinguished from the other in power, and claim equality And so at best, what we are left with, is the son of GOD given the title of GOD, with a GOD above Him, just as it was with the Davidic King in Psalm 45. And while this may prove challenging to accept, it's worth noting that the title of GOD is not definitive in this context, as we find similar titles being given onto angels and humans by YHWH throughout Bible history, and who were clearly not GOD equal-to or GOD themselves. In addition to this, it's also worth noting that the Bible makes the distinction between [the GOD] and those given the title of GOD - not of the true and false sense, as that would entail the worship due to GOD, but moreso, as delegates of power authorized by YHWH, and who were worthy of carrying-out GODs judgment in His stead - such as; Moses, the Davidic King, the angels in the assembly, the human Judges and least but not last, the only begotten son of GOD anointed to the throne in heaven. *RE:* Hence "therefore God, your God" *A.* The obvious contradiction with this is that cannot have a Most High GOD in subjection to a higher power - and where the passage makes the distinction between the son of GOD called GOD and the GOD above Him - taking note that the order of operations is that there is one absolute power over all, through all and in all - and that is the GOD and Father of Jesus who's name was revealed to humanity as YHWH for all eternity and all generations. *RE:* Makes sense with John 1:1 too where the Word was with and was God *A.* Here again, we cannot conclude that the word be equal to GOD when it has a source and origin, and where it is commanded carry out the will of GOD. And so if we are to adhere to the order of operations, then the logical conclusion is that the word which was GOD, was not equal-to or GOD itself, but more aptly, a representation of GODs will being done - hens, why the account makes use of a personification(word) rather than identifying the son or Jesus. *RE:* in Colossians 1 we learn Jesus Christ was before all things, made all things for himself... *A.* Let's take a closer look; _17He is before all things, and in him all things are held together. 18He is the head of the body, the assembly, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19For all the fullness was pleased to dwell in him; 20and through him to reconcile all things to himself, by him, whether things on the earth, or things in the heavens, having made peace through the blood of his cross._ As can be seen here, the words; _'he made all things for Himself...'_ do not appear in the text - and so, it would be better to adhere to the text as it is written than to cite words that are not written, as this is how corruptions are made. As for preeminence, it is from such terminology that Jesus' own progeny as GODs only begotten son is established, taking note that He is given all things by His own GOD and Father, and in contrast with the Father who is given nothing by no one. And finally, it's worth noting that the fullness which dwelled in Jesus Christ also dwells in His disciples - see; one with GOD as I am one with GOD, & being filled etc. Having said that, it's also worth noting that the notion of Jesus preexisting creation makes perfect sense, that this would not undermine the order of operations of the fact that the word came from GOD, and did as GOD commanded it to do; 𝟼𝐁𝐲 𝐘𝐚𝐡𝐰𝐞𝐡'𝐬 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐝, 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚑𝚎𝚊𝚟𝚎𝚗𝚜 𝚠𝚎𝚛𝚎 𝚖𝚊𝚍𝚎; 𝚊𝚕𝚕 𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚒𝚛 𝚊𝚛𝚖𝚢 𝚋𝚢 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚋𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚝𝚑 𝚘𝚏 𝚑𝚒𝚜 𝚖𝚘𝚞𝚝𝚑... ...9𝐅𝐨𝐫 𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐩𝐨𝐤𝐞, 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚒𝚝 𝚠𝚊𝚜 𝚍𝚘𝚗𝚎. 𝐇𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐝, 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚒𝚝 𝚜𝚝𝚘𝚘𝚍 𝚏𝚒𝚛𝚖 - Psalm 33.6-9 𝚜𝚘 𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚕𝚕 𝐦𝐲 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐝 𝐛𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐠𝐨𝐞𝐬 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐡 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐨𝐟 𝐦𝐲 𝐦𝐨𝐮𝐭𝐡: 𝚒𝚝 𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚕𝚕 𝚗𝚘𝚝 𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚞𝚛𝚗 𝚝𝚘 𝚖𝚎 𝚟𝚘𝚒𝚍, 𝚋𝚞𝚝 𝚒𝚝 𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚕𝚕 𝚊𝚌𝚌𝚘𝚖𝚙𝚕𝚒𝚜𝚑 𝚝𝚑𝚊𝚝 𝚠𝚑𝚒𝚌𝚑 𝙸 𝚙𝚕𝚎𝚊𝚜𝚎, 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚒𝚝 𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚕𝚕 𝚙𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚙𝚎𝚛 𝚒𝚗 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝙸 𝚜𝚎𝚗𝚝 𝚒𝚝 𝚝𝚘 𝚍𝚘 - Isaiah 55.11
@@smalltimer4370 So you're arguing the writer of Hebrews was misapplying the Psalms then and therefore in error? Are you arguing that Jesus is some "lesser" God turning Christianity into basically a pantheon since the words literally say "therefore God, your God"? The author of Hebrews is arguing Christ as the Son of God hence greater than the angels, but you're making it a pantheon. Colossians 1:16 - For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. *All things were created through Him and for Him.* Literally for him. As well you're now having to argue that Jesus, in John 5:23 when he says all should honor the Son as they do the Father, who is a jealous God, is *allowing his honor to be given to something not him.* This creates a myriad of errors in the New Testament that destroys inerrancy. A swath of contradiction. Your eisegesis of John 1:1 is just that. The Bible plainly states the Word *was with and was* God. You're adding everything else to this and interpreting the Word as "less" when the text bluntly associates both the Word and God as God while maintaining distinction. It's right there in the grammar you don't add to it. Romans 10:13 is a good quote of Joel 2:32 about YHWH that Paul applies to Christ. I mean even the Jews of the second temple generation realized Christ is claiming to be God per John 10:33 and John 8:59. You are literally having to believe that a jealous God who absolutely detests all forms of idolatry is now allowing a lesser being be worshipped. Just nope. For the record Jesus even testified that you must believe he is God to be saved in John 8.
"The Trinity must be read into Scripture not out from it. In fact, I don’t think anyone can arrive at the Trinity from only reading the Bible. It has to be taught alongside of Scripture, and even then most people don’t understand it. " right!
Jesus told me that "Humans got the trinity all wrong." He gave me the understanding that the Trinity doctrine that there are three ENTITIES in one God is incorrect. There is God, His Word, His Spirit. God sent Jesus to us as the WORD made flesh. Jesus told us he would not leave us orphans and God's Spirit was sent to us. Ultimately, not three entities, just our Father giving us his WORD as the lamb of God and much more, and his Spirit to comfort and guide us. So simple yet religion and it's scholars cannot figure it out.
You can not believe yeshua was just a holy prophet. He claimed to be the only way to God the Father. If he wasn't who he said he was then he was a liar or a madman.
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. No trinity
@@Jack-mc1xq 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Deutoronomy 4:35 "To you it was shown that you might know that the LORD, He is God; there is no other besides Him. Deutoronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one! Deutoronomy 32:39 'See now that I, I am He, And there is no god besides Me; It is I who put to death and give life I have wounded and it is I who heal, And there is no one who can deliver from My hand. 2 Samuel 7:22 "For this reason You are great, O Lord GOD; for there is none like You, and there is no God besides You, according to all that we have heard with our ears. 1 Chronicles 17:20 "O LORD, there is none like You, nor is there any God besides You, according to all that we have heard with our ears. Psalms 83:18 That they may know that You alone, whose name is the LORD, Are the Most High over all the earth. Psalms 86:10 For You are great and do wondrous deeds; You alone are God. Isaiah 43:10 "You are My witnesses," declares the LORD, "And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me. Isaiah 44:6 "Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me. Isaiah 45:18 For thus says the LORD, who created the heavens (He is the God who formed the earth and made it, He established it and did not create it a waste place, but formed it to be inhabited), "I am the LORD, and there is none else. Mark 12:29 Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD; 1 Corinthians 8:4 Therefore concerning the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that there is no such thing as an idol in the world, and that there is no God but one. Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all.
The singular vs plural pronouns argument falls flat on its face because both singular and plural are used in reference to God, and I’m not a trinitarian
That's the Royal "We". We can be used by a single person, buy I cannot be used for multiple people. We is used in the Qur'an too, despite the fact that Islam is pure monotheism.
If Jesus is identical with God the Father, yet if Jesus is also our "advocate": with the father (as we learn in the scriptures), wouldn't this create a conflict of interest?
🎯THE TRINITY BRIEFLY EXPLAINED. GOD: The Father, The Son/Word, The Holyghost. MAN: The Body Soul and Spirit. *"God breathed into man and he became a living Soul" Genesis 2* John 8:42 *"I proceeded forth and came out from God"* -Jesus John 16:8.28 *"I came forth from God"* John 1:1 "In the beginning was the WORD, the WORD was with God and the WORD was God. All things were made by him" John 15:26-27 *"The Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:"* Get your salvation now before it's late. John chapter 3: 3,16,18,36
Matthew 11: 25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. 26 Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
Psalm 110:1 The LORD said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.” Mark 16:19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God. Revelations 3:21 To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.
Jehovah and Jesus are one in agreement with each other, the same as Jesus said about the congregation... “I have given them the glory which you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one.”-John 17:22
@@YM-wj2dr It doesn't defend the trinity doctrine. One God The Greek word Kai is translated as and, it is also Even or that is. The word And does not mean another person. Matt 28:19 says NAME singular which is Jesus. All you have to do is read through acts and notice when they mentioned baptism. Jesus is considered the Lamb of God, the King of Kings, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the High Priest. And you believe that, but you don’t believe that One God can be all of that and more. Isaiah 44:6-8 KJVS [6] Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. [7] And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them. [8] Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it ? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any. Revelation 1:7-8 KJVS [7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. [8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Isaiah 9:6 KJVS [6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 1 Timothy 3:16 KJVS [16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Colossians 2:8-9 KJVS [8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. [9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Jude 1:25 KJVS [25] To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. Well over 300 times the singular pronoun is used when speaking of God. The Greek Τριάδα is translated trinity. Not once is it used by the Apostles, nor of the OT writers. The OT is clear that ONE God was taught, then after the Apostles died He changed His mind? Mark 12:29 KJVS And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: Zechariah 14:9 (NKJV) 9 And the LORD shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be- “The LORD is one,” And His name one.
@@YM-wj2dr is become one in mind does mean same person? Become one in mind is that they're agree in to clean all the trouble. John 17:21 already explaining we are one in Christ and God also does that make Jesus and God one person?
I want to follow Jesus teachings but i don't believe in trinity. What church do you recommend I learn more about? I really want to worship with like-minded people.
To find churches and home groups that believe the Father of Jesus is the only true God, check out the Unitarian Christian Alliance: www.unitarianchristianalliance.org/group-directory/
@@christianmonotheism do they also teach he died for our sins? It's also a very foreign concept to me why an almighty God would need one person to die for all. If the penalty for sin is death we all die and pay that prize, no?
@@shadowsidesoamplified God can't die, because He's eternal. So God didn't die for our sins, cause Jesus isn't God. He is the Son of God. Read Romans 5:12-21. It should help you understand why we became sinners through one man Adam. And redeemed through another Man Jesus.
@@algaeselbor1472 i know what you mean but we all die, so why does he have to die for our sins. It makes no sense to me. Same with the sin of Adam. Anyway yes Id rather have Jesus and no bird beings or lizard people
@@shadowsidesoamplified In Leviticus17:11 God said "For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement (amends, reparation) for your souls; for it is blood that makes atonement for the soul." Sin causes death and separates us from God because he is perfect and holy. God allows a life for a life to reconcile a person to Himself. In the old testament, and under the law, God allowed animal blood to atone for sins. He sent Jesus as a better and more perfect sacrifice to once and for all eradicate the sin in our life. Jesus shed His blood for us. A life for a life in order to bridge the gap between us and God, since we were dead in our sins. James 1:13-15 talks about sin and how it brings forth death. We need a substitute, sacrificial life to be given life again. Jesus' death did more than that though. It brought righteousness, justification, sanctification, healing, etc. Hope this helps and makes sense. Some of the things in the bible are not easy to understand, and in some cases have taken me years to learn. I enjoy trying to explain, and if I can answer anymore just ask.
Here is something else...what's your take on this please...The other disciples therefore said unto him, Thomas, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. Jesus Appears to Thomas …eight days later, His disciples were once again inside with the doors locked, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you.” Then Jesus said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and look at My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe.” Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!”… Jesus did not rebuke Thomas when he called Him God!
Anne Sorry I know I’m way late in replying but I really wanted to answer this. When Thomas said “My Lord and My God” it was more of an exclamation of unbelief than it was him actually calling Jesus God. Almost like if I see you do something I thought was unbelievable or impossible I would say “oh my God”. Does that mean I’m referring to you as God? Not exactly. I’m just calling out to God because I’ve seen something that I once thought couldn’t be done. Similarly, Thomas did not believe that the person standing in front of him could be Jesus since he has just seen Jesus crucified and buried. Once he touched Jesus in the hole where he’d been nailed then he realized that it was him and was in complete awe, thus “My Lord and My God”. It’s shouldn’t really be seen as Thomas calling Jesus God
That doesn't mean he said he was God, not t he same thing. This is still grasping for something that is not there. Jesus never claimed to be God but the anti-christ will.
@@raya7052 If you're saying it's just an exclamation, then JESUS could have called Thomas out for mentioning GOD in vain (empty, worthless, nothing). May it be just an expression or intentional, it is strictly forbidden by GOD HIMSELF (Exodus 20:7) as stated in the 3rd commandment. Saying the expression "Oh my GOD" also directly disobeys this commandment. Please know that when Thomas said those words, he knows what he meant. And JESUS see through his heart that he means what he said that HE is the LORD GOD.
@@raya7052 Are you serious? It was not an exclamation of unbelief like saying "oh my God". First of all, if Thomas said "oh my God" as an exclamation, that would mean that Thomas did the despicable act of taking the Lord's name in vain. Jesus would have surely chastised him for that. Thomas was a pious Jew who adhered to Jewish Law, and speaking the Lord's name in vain was absolutely unspeakable and was considered blasphemy. Do you really think he did that, especially in front of the Son of God?
No, it wasn't just an "exclamation". Maybe I did not clarify myself. First of all, from reading the OT, the commandment of not taking the Lord's name in vain seemed to be specifically forbid 1) directly blaspheming or cursing the name of God (see Leviticus 24:16). 2) empty or false oaths: “You shall not swear by my name falsely, and so profane the name of your God: I am the Lord” (Lev. 19:12; Hos. 10:4). Basically, when you make a declaration, swearing by God’s name, it must not be a false promise or one you do not intend to keep. 3) false visions and false claims to speak on God’s behalf, for such prophets “prophesy lies in my name” (Jer. 23:25). Strangely enough, sacrificing one’s children to the false god Molech was considered a violation of the third commandment because it profaned the name of God (Lev. 18:21). The Israelites were to stone the man who sacrificed his children in this way. Failure to do so would allow for uncleanness to permeate the camp, thereby besmirching the name of the Lord, who dwelt in the midst of his people. 4) unlawfully touching any holy things coming from God (see Leviticus 22:2, Malachi 1:10-14:). There are many other things that could also be potential violations of His Third Commandment. Even this idea some of you have perpetuated that I say Thomas said what he said "in vain" would be an offense if it's true. However, I do not think that Thomas violated this law when said it in this way. In fact I completely reject that assumption. Thomas did NOT say "My Lord and My God" in vain or with emptiness/worthlessness as you say I described. How could he? He was a devout follower of Christ and a devout follower of God. He saw his Lord and Master die on the cross and watched him be buried. Thomas believed Jesus Christ to be dead at that time. When he heard from the other disciples that Jesus Christ had been resurrected, he (unlike the other disciples), did not believe. He wanted to see Jesus with his own eyes and touch him where he had been nailed and to put in hand in the place where he had been pierced. Jesus appeared to Thomas and the rest of the apostles and allowed Thomas to touch him. Thomas, who just previously did not believe that his Lord and Master had actually come back to life, now believed and thus you get the statement: "my Lord and my God". This isn't an empty exclamation. He's not saying "Oh my God" like how we say it so commonly in modern times for nearly anything. He says "My Lord and My God" as a statement to testify that he now truly believes what he's actually been told and been taught throughout the Gospel of John: that Jesus Christ was going to be brought back to life by God. He had failed to understand it for a while because he did not see it with his own two eyes but now, after having been able to see his risen Lord, Thomas no longer denies and disbelieves.
@Zakari Romany Book of Jasher is non-canon to scripture. What do you mean he's "talking to wisdom"? This is just your wonky interpretation. Every Jew who knows the language says Elohim is plural. There's even more evidence of the Trinity in the old Testament alone. Don't even need John 1:1 or 1 John 5:7.
@@diegosegreto3872 there are evidences all over the Bible about the Father Son and the Holy Ghost. We all can't deny that. Read 1 John: 5: 7-8 there are 3 that bare record in heaven and also there are 3 that bare witness on Earth. You are on point bro. God bless 🙏🙏💙💛
John 14:24 " anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not of my own; they belong to the Father who sent me". Acts 7:55 " But Stephen, full of holy spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God". Jesus can't be God if he was seen standing at the right hand of God. John 7:16 " Jesus answered, my teaching is not my own. It comes from the one who sent me. Jesus says he's teaching God's teaching. Not his own. I don't understand how people believe Jesus is God. John 17:3 " Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent". If Jesus is God than who is he speaking to in his prayer? John 5:30 " By myself I can do nothing; I judge not only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to Please myself but him who sent me". John 14:28 " The father is greater than I". How can jesus be God when he said someone is greater than he is? Jesus also taught us how to pray. He taught us how to pray to the father and only to the father. Jesus never said pray to me. The trinity messed up a big part of Christianity. The trinity was created was made by Catholics at the counci of nicaea around the beginning of the 3rd century. The trinity makes God a mystery. It's nothing but a big lie. I personally don't trust anything that comes out of the Catholic church. They got rid of the Second commandment and they also do many other things that the bible says not to do!!
John 8:58 “Jesus answered them: 'I solemnly declare it: before Abraham came to be, I AM.” [This was the name God gave himself when he first communicated with Moses, Exodus 3:14 “God replied, 'I am who am. ' Then he added, 'This is what you shall tell the Israelites: I AM sent me to you. '”] Revelation 22:13 Jesus says “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.” John 14:5-16 8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?” (I didn’t not go through the whole verse but if you continue to verse 16 it talks about the Holy Spirit also) Isaiah 43:10 (this is the Old Testament and the father says I am Jesus/the servant that’s in Isaiah chapter 53) “Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that [I am he]: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.” John 13:19 (Jesus says I am he) “Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that [I am he.]” Revelation 1:8 The father claims to be the alpha thee omega the beginning and the end Revelation 22:13 Jesus also claims to be the alpha and the omega the first and the last theses are claims only God can make John 20:28-29 does not get remotely any clearer then this “28 And Thomas answered and [said unto him, My Lord and my God.] 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. “ (look how Jesus responds he didn’t say don’t call me God he took the title which was given to him) John 1:1-5,14. (The word is Jesus) “1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.” 14 “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.” Philippians 2:6-10 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. 9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
Nowhere in Exodus 3, does GOD identify 'I am' as His name. And you would know that if you actually read the account(not single passages), but the entire account, as we find GOD explicitly stating His name(see; this is my name), in the very next verse(15).
@@SmalltimR your the biggest liar in this comment section and it’s sad because your religion allows you to lie to people to win converts if anyone wants the truth it’s literally in exodus 3
***** The United States is awesome, she is a great country! The United Statessss is ONE country! We are created in God's image. 26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; ...........” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them." Does Genesis 1: 27 say we are created in the image of God and His sons or does it only say we are created in the image of God ONLY? Answer that.
***** I am not "pepped up" about anything. If you can't understand my point and the reason I used the USA as an example, then it is no wonder and no surprise you can't grasp the Trinity. I won't even explain, it should be obvious for people who can actually think rationally and humble. "God said let us" The "us" there cannot include angels because only God made man in His image. If you include angels in having anything to do with our creation, then "by Myself" and "All alone" would be lies. But God cannot lie. God made us in His image all alone and by Himself, so the "us" there must only be God and God alone! The text doesn't say Angels did anything related to helping God do anything. The text says only God is creator and maker without need of any help from anyone or anything. Period. Isaiah 44: 24 Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, *"I, the LORD, am the maker of all things,* Stretching out the heavens *by Myself* And spreading out the earth *all alone!* Psalms 100: 3 *Know that the LORD Himself is God; It is He who has made us*, and not we ourselves; We are His people and the sheep of His pasture! As Genesis 1: 27 CONFIRMS "So God created man in His own image" Note that it says "God created man in His image" It doesn't say "God with help of angels created man in His image" You are privately interpreting the Word of God according to your own thought pattern and forget that God's ways and thoughts are not ours. 2 Peter 1 : 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit! Isaiah 55: 8 “For My thoughts are not your thoughts,Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord.9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth,So are My ways higher than your ways,And My thoughts than your thoughts!
***** Yes, I understand the concept of the Trinity , the thing I won't understand is how God is a Trinity. I can understand how scripture gives the same Godly attributes to The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, that's easy to read and grasp, but I will never understand how that works! I think that's pretty obvious. Is not arrogant to know how to read and compare texts. It's not arrogant to read. Yes, rational. Because God says His ways and thoughts are not ours, so it is perfectly rational that God has a higher way of existing than ours. But you wish God was how you arrogantly put Him to be, because you think God is predictable. Can't you read? Isaiah 40: 28 Don’t you know? Haven’t you heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the creator of the ends of the earth. He doesn’t grow tired or weary.*His understanding is beyond human reach"* It is perfectly rational to read how God does things in the Father THROUGH the Son and the Holy Spirit, and then at the same time claim eagerly that God is ONE! Deut 6: 4 Sh'ma Yisrael YHWH Eloheynu YHWH Echad! YHWH is ECHAD (ONE) God. Adam and Eve is ECHAD (ONE) Flesh. You still don't get it! I am not arguing whether Angels are made in the image of God. That's your red-herring. I am simply reading the text and the text says that the "us" in "Let us make man in our image" are the ones who actually made man in His image. So why would you argue Angel's image of God, if that has nothing to do with God making us BY HIMSELF AND ALL ALONE? Please, fathom before you reply. You are rudely mistaken.
***** YOU were the one who brought up "sons of God" to begin with not I. But then I must ask this: If God created ALL BY HIMSELF AND ALL ALONE , who are the "us" in Genesis 1: 26. That's the topic.
***** You've just said Jesus is God by admitting that the "us" includes Jesus. Because only God made man in His own image BY HIMSELF AND ALL ALONE! No one can deny that. Let me try and explain. The "us" in Genesis 1: 26 is referring to God , and God alone. Because NO ONE ELSE BESIDE GOD MAKES ANYTHING! Only God is maker. It's so simple.
I freaking love how I just took a walk and prayed desperately to God about the holy trinity, how to understand it and how to really know God, and then I find this. =) Im ex-Pagan/Wiccan and have been so confused because have still felt like Ive been trying to get to know and worship 3 Gods when I was told christianity was a monotheistic religion. I've have been in desperation, longing, and confusion for the better part of the last two weeks after my 3rd near death experience.
Chasing down truth, Ask AND you shall receive, thats awesome!! Im just coming out of the Trinity Theology myself and it has unlocked the Bible "now" that I'm allowed to read it correctly!!😅
John 1:1 says In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Notice how the word was spelled with a capital "W". This is because John was using "the Word" to illustrate Jesus. It clearly says Jesus was God. Furthermore In John 10:30 Jesus says, "I and the Father are one"
What about the grammatical phenomena in Genesis, “Let us make man in our Image”? How do you account for Jesus saying he is the “Son of Man” the biblical figure in Daniel who is worshipped?
@Paul Wise How can Jesus be biologically related to His Father but not be divine. That's incoherent. I don't expect you to know how to explain everything, but I'm interested in how you work through the Scriptures. This isn't a debate. Just a friendly dialogue between two guys who hold different positions. No animosity whatsoever
@Paul Wise - _28:18__ - “All authority in heaven and on earth _*_Has Been Given To Me._*_ Given? _*_By Whom?_*_ Matthew __28:19__ - _*_Therefore_*_ go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of _*_The Father (1)_*_ and of _*_The Son (2)_*_ and of _*_The Holy Spirit (3)._*_ How can Three Persons be God when there is only _*_One God_*
I do not believe in the doctrine of the trinity and I cannot be also an Unitarian, because since Genesis to Revelation talks about Jesus the only begotten of the Father. I believe in God the Father and His only begotten Son Jesus Christ, as we read in Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. 12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
@Um No only one Spirit of God Almighty ===) Ephesians 4 v 4 To 6. Christ is the Spirit manifested in the Flesh. 1 john 5 v 6. A SPIRIT over all : Christ Spirit of God i.e the Father ===) Romans 9 v 5 *The SPIRIT* Through all : Christ in the Flesh ===) Matthew 1 v 23 *The Body* In all : Christ the Holy Spirit *the soul* in the blood ===) Galatians 2 v 20, Romans 8 v 9, Leviticus 17 v 11 A sentinelle of Christ appointed by CHRIST
Jesus said very clearly in John 17:3: " This means everlasting life, taking in the knowledge of YOU THE ONLY TRUE GOD (YAHWEH/JEHOVAH) AND OF ME JESUS CHRIST WHOM YOU SENT FORTH". Trinitarians get a grip on the real Truth because you've been misled.
How about instead of cherry picking you read more then one verse. in John 17:1-5 Jesus says he has authority over all flesh (Jeremiah 32:27 God has authority over all flesh),can give eternal life, and Jesus existed before the world did. Jesus is YAHWEH
@@mysteryman8122 "cherry picking" you said? My position is most definitely based on the consistency of The Bible as a whole; compared to the " cherry picking" of The Scriptures trinitarians use The Scriptures for to base this false doctrine. Why even the verses you mentioned make it clear that Christ Jesus gets his authority to do all he does from GOD ALMIGHTY - and not himself.
@timmehallaenious910 Christendom are Cherry picking indeed they're proven to be False Witness breath out lie Proverb 14:5. And Clearly hate God's Faithful Witness teaching Revelation 1:5.
John 3:16, clearly states that God the Father, sent/gave his Son. -- as for the Spirit of God, it is clearly stated by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:45. Christ = last Adam. See also, G3875 in the Strong's Concordance.
Hebrews 1:8 {the Father calls Jesus God} Psalm 45:6 But unto the Son he {God } saith, Thy throne, O God {Theos}, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom. The Holy Spirit applies this to Jesus (Hebrews) and to The Father (Psalm 45:6). Psalm 45:6 Your throne, O God, will last, forever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. John 20:28, 29 {Thomas calls Jesus God} And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. { o Kurios mou kai o Theos mou } the definite article. …..Does Jesus correct Thomas? No, he calls him blessed. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. Romans 9:5 {Paul calls Jesus GOD} Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen…NIV I Timothy 4:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles believed on in the world, received up into glory. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Titus 2:13 Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, Philippians 2:5-7 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man: John 1:1, 2,3,14 {John calls Jesus God} In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς En arche en ho logos kai ho logos en pros ton Theon kai theos was the Word . ἦν ὁ Λόγος. en ho Logos He was in [the] beginning with God. All things through him came into being, and without him came into being not even one [thing] which has come into being. And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us, Matthew 1:23 (Matthew calls Jesus GOD} Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Acts 20:28 {Luke calls Jesus God} Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 2 Peter 1:1 {Peter calls Jesus God} Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours: Isaiah 7:14 {The Holy Spirit calls Jesus God} Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. th-cam.com/video/ulPBOFCKOvQ/w-d-xo.html
Jesus John 1:1 the Word was God. John 1:3 Col 1:16 He's a creator of heavens and earth, Heb 1:10 the Father said the Son created heavens and earth , Heb 1:10 the Father calls the Son God, 1st John 5:20 Jesus is the true God, Acts 5:3,4 the Holy Spirit is God.
@@misteranonymous5784 Also, quote the entire verse next time: "1Kings 8:27 But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?"
The lottery: A tax on people who can't do math. The trinity: A belief with people who can't do math. Trinity conclusion is you have a Father that is 100% God, a son that is 100% God, and a holy spirit that is 100% God, all making ONE 100% God.
Yes you can’t undertand it becuase we are this physical realm God is not from earth he’s from above. Your not going to understand how the father the son and Holy sport exist together as one becuase you don’t know what the 4,5,6,7 dimensional realm looks like or what it’s like God isn’t limited he’s above all.
Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed5087 heir of all things, by whom also he made4160 the worlds; Hebrews 3:1.... Jesus Christ, 2 faithful to Him Who created4160 him, as Moses also was in all his house. 3 For he has been counted worthy of more eminence than Moses, since the one having constructed it has more honour than the house. 4 For every house is built by somebody, but He Who built all things is God. 5 And Moses was indeed faithful in all his house as a servant, for a testimony of those things going to be spoken afterwards. 6 Christ, though, is faithful as a son over his house, whose house we are, if we hold fixed the firm confidence and the rejoicing of the hope until the end.
@@AAdaughterofYHWH - apprehend and comprehend are two different things. Scientists don't know what energy, consciousness and gravity is , they can only describe them . Yet understanding God is supposed to be simple? The very one who said, your ways are not my ways, the very one who created energy, consciousness and gravity, He who is eternal and it can't be mysterious some way?
Is the Trinity taught in the Old Testament? The word Trinity is not used in the Bible, but the doctrine of the tri-unity of God is clearly taught in the New Testament. The Old Testament does not explicitly teach the doctrine, but the concept of the Trinity is hinted at in certain places. We could say that the Old Testament lays a foundation for the later revelation concerning the Trinity. The doctrine of the Trinity finds support in the Old Testament in the Hebrew concept of plurality in unity: Deuteronomy 6:4 is a verse that seems, at first, to wholly negate the doctrine of the Trinity: “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.” (Interestingly, the singular Yahweh is coupled with the plural Elohim in this verse.) The word translated “one” is ehad, which means “one” or “unity”; however, the word is also used in other contexts to suggest a plurality within unity. For example, the word ehad also appears in Genesis 2:24, which considers two persons as one: “[A man] is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one [ehad]” (NLT). Obviously, the husband and wife are distinct persons, but they are called “one”-there is diversity within the unity. The doctrine of the Trinity finds support in the Old Testament in the names for God: The very fact that God reveals Himself using multiple names in the Old Testament could be a clue pointing to His triune nature. Two of the names show up right away: Elohim in Genesis 1:1, and Yahweh in Genesis 2:4. Some scholars believe the multiple names for God imply a diversity within the Godhead. One of the Hebrew names for “God” in our Bible, Elohim, is plural in form. The -im suffix is plural, and elohim, when not referring to the One True God, is translated as “gods” (plural) in Scripture. The plural form of a name for the One God could be seen as implying a perfect unity of Persons and is certainly consistent with the New Testament teaching of the Trinity. Adonai, translated in our Bibles as “Lord,” occurs about 300 times in the Old Testament. This title for God is also plural. One writer comments on the word Adonai, “It is significant that it is almost always in the plural and possessive, meaning ‘my Lords.’ It confirms the idea of a trinity as found also in the name of Elohim” (Stone, Nathan, The Names of God, Moody Publishers, 2010, p. 35). The doctrine of the Trinity finds support in the Old Testament in the appearances of the Angel of the Lord: In several places, the Old Testament records encounters with someone called “the Angel of the Lord.” This supernatural presence speaks as if He is God, identifies Himself with God, and exercises the responsibilities of God. For example, in Genesis 16:10, the Angel of the Lord says to Hagar, “I will increase your descendants so much that they will be too numerous to count.” Of course, God is the One who blesses Ishmael, but it’s the Angel of the Lord who personally makes the promise to his mother. The same Angel of the Lord appears to Abraham and assumes the role of God, saying, “Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son” (Genesis 22:12, emphasis added ). See also Exodus 3:2; Judges 2:1-4; 5:23; 6:11-24; 13:3-22; 2 Samuel 24:16; Zechariah 1:12; 3:1; 12:8. In several passages, those who see the Angel of the Lord fear for their lives because they had “seen the Lord.” It’s clear that the Angel of the Lord was no mere angel. Viewed through the lens of the New Testament teaching of the Trinity, it’s easy to conclude that the Angel of the Lord could be a pre-incarnate appearance of Christ. The doctrine of the Trinity finds support in the Old Testament in its descriptions of the Spirit of God: The post-exilic Levites speak of the Spirit of God as being sent by God and speaking for God: “You also gave Your good Spirit to instruct them” (Nehemiah 9:20, NKJV); and “For many years you were patient with them. By your Spirit you warned them through your prophets” (Nehemiah 9:30). Both verses seem to make a distinction between God and another personality called the Spirit of God. See also Isaiah 48:16 and Isaiah 63:10. The doctrine of the Trinity finds support in the Old Testament in God’s self-references: Most of the time, God speaks of Himself using singular pronouns (e.g., Exodus 33:19; Hosea 11:9); at other times, He uses plural pronouns: “Then God said, ‘Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness’” (Genesis 1:26, emphasis added). “And the LORD God said, ‘The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil’” (Genesis 3:22, emphasis added). As sinful humanity was erecting the tower of Babel, God said, “Come, let Us go down and confuse their language” (Genesis 11:7, BSB, emphasis added). In Isaiah 6:8, God refers to Himself in both singular and plural terms: “Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, ‘Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?’” (emphasis added). We could assume that, in each of the above passages, God is simply using the majestic plural to emphasize His power and greatness. Or we could also assume that there’s something more going on-viz., that these statements hint at discrete personalities existing as a unified whole. The doctrine of the Trinity finds support in the Old Testament in Messianic passages: In Psalm 110:1, David writes, “The LORD said to my Lord, ‘Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool’” (NKJV). Here is an example of Yahweh speaking to Adonai and giving Him the place of highest honor in heaven. Jesus pointed to this psalm as proof that the Christ is more than David’s descendant-He is the pre-existent Lord and much greater than David (Matthew 22:41-45). Another Messianic prophecy is found in Psalm 45:6-7: “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. You love righteousness and hate wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.” The psalmist, addressing Elohim, suddenly speaks of “your God” who honors and anoints the Addressee. The doctrine of the Trinity finds support in the Old Testament in the repetition of God’s qualities or His name: In Isaiah 6:3, the angels surrounding God praise Him as being “holy, holy, holy.” The threefold repetition expresses the intensity and completeness of God’s holiness. Some scholars also infer from the angels’ words an expression of the triune nature of God, as the three Persons of the Godhead are each equal in holiness and majesty. Similarly, we have a threefold repetition of God’s name in Numbers 6:24-26: “The Lord bless you and keep you; the Lord make his face shine on you and be gracious to you; the Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace.” The blessing’s appeal to “the Lord . . . the Lord . . . the Lord” is seen by some scholars as providing a glimpse of the Trinity. In many ways, the Old Testament gives a preview of the New Testament’s fuller revelation, including the doctrine of God as a triune Being. While the Trinity is not clearly seen in the Old Testament, there are certainly indicators of that truth.
Very well explained in this video. Also if Jesus was God, Satan would have never tempted him by offering him the world if it already belongs to God from day one right? Also, it says, in scripture that God has, no beginning or end however "God" Jesus DIED! Unless he pretended to die in which makes the bible into a big joke, Satan loved that.
ah maybe Mr Rodriguez I can help you out DEUTERONOMY 6:16 DO NOT TEMPT THE LORD THY GOD AS YOU DID AT MASSAH" WHHAT WAS THAT GOD CANNOT BE TEMPTED, AND all YOU Jdubs need to read, think digest what you've read without the watchtowers filtering as the Jdubs think they got it all wrapped up in their little neat assertions that are unfounded be cause they 1 do not follow any path of logic when it comes to making sense of a triune God who like us is multi-personal" displaying in himself the relational personages defined as FATHER SON AND HOLY SPIRIT, once you can answer what a person is and how personhood is defined in the image of God then maybe just maybe you'll be on your way. Shalom ps I know you'll come back with a smart reply but if you'd like a sincere discussion first put away all your assumptions and arguments read your Bible and then we can talk. Shalom.
GOD DID NOT DIE!. The man born of a woman died. He gave up his God-the-Son position and to die as a flesh and blood MAN with a free will, who had no inherited sin and was tempted to sin in all ways as everyone else is to get us out of this "quarantine pen" we are held in. We just have to accept what he has done for us and embrace it, or stay as we are! P.s. He is back with his Father on the Throne, alive for evermore. Thank you Apple Pie for your excellent reply.
My brother Jesus is the image of the invisible God. Which is revealed to us . which is incarcerated in Mary womb ,he is God the son flesh he comes as substitute for scrifaice as God lamb to cleaness from our sin
Amen. I don;t need to believe in a trinity to be a christian. I am saved by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ who is at the right hand of God the Father, the almighty!
man if only you lived during the time of jesus youd be what we call Muslim. no worries there's Muhammad swt who carried the same true word of jesus so come closer to gods kingdom!
@@nazarean ahahahaha your not saying anything new to me. According to bible god had MANY sons ahahahaha children of Israel? You believe in a book written 100 years after Jesus death. In Greek. Jesus language was Aramaic. Your on your way to HELL if you don’t become Muslim 🫣
This teaching is so encouraging! I love how you are calling Christians back to the original expressions of Jesus and the early apostles. Like you say, such Trinitarian ideas would never have been acceptable to faithful Jewish believers daily quoting the Shema, likewise confirmed in Mark 12. Nicely stated! Meanwhile this same point could easily be made of the virgin birth as well. As the two doctrines are intimately related. Monotheism is so much more concise and clear, when not also trying to process the meaning of the details of a literal supernatural birth. All the while, neither Jesus, nor Peter, nor Paul ever mention a single word to support this supernatural nativity. Nor the gospels of Mark or John. Each gospel seeks to make unique theological claims about Jesus. But it is quite curious how incredibly different are the details of the two birth stories from Matthew and Luke. This is our only information about a supernatural birth, and the two accounts do not agree. Matthew’s version has Joseph and Mary living in Bethlehem and then fleeing to hide in Egypt until after Herod’s death. While Luke has the family travel briefly from their home in Nazareth and then return back right after the purification rituals 40 days later. The two stories and two time frames are obviously so completely different, they cannot both be literally true. Anyhow, what Peter and Paul do say is that in promised fulfillment of 2 Sam 7, Jesus is the actual offspring of David “according to the flesh” (Rom 1:3, Acts 2:30). And in a Jewish patrilineal society, that is only possible if Jesus’ actual father is a son of David. Thus, is Jesus the Jewish Messiah through a virgin birth, or because as promised, he has been chosen and raised up by God from the lineage of David? When we try to make Jesus God, either through a literal virgin birth or through Trinitarian doctrines, we lose our hold on his actual humanity and his actual relationship with God (Acts 2:22, 10:38). One could also point out how truly odd it is that Christianity simply pasted this supernatural birth event on top of a previous pagan celebration, rather than caring in the least when the actual birth of Jesus truly occurred, which according to every biblical scholar was not Dec 25. Again, why do neither Peter nor Paul nor Jesus ever bother to breath even a single word about this supernatural birth? Nor does Jesus’ own family seem to recall any of that privileged status in the narrative of Mark (Mark 3:21). Instead what Peter tells us is how we each have a heavenly birth through the “incorruptible seed” (sperma) of God’s Word (1 Peter 1:23). This aligns with what Jesus tells Nicodemus, how we too must be “born again” from above (John 3:3). So perhaps the obvious contradictions in Matthew and Luke are ultimately meant to press us beyond a literal understanding of this miraculous nativity. Perhaps as new covenant believers, we are actually meant to deal with this story by the Spirit, rather than the letter (2 Cor 3:6). For as Paul tells us, we have each been betrothed and presented “as a pure virgin to Christ” (2 Cor 11:2). Finally, no Jewish person ever imagined that Isaiah’s prophesy to King Ahaz about Isaiah’s wife giving birth to a son with a symbolic name was a prophecy related to a future virgin birth. Nor was Isaiah’s wife a virgin at the time. As Isaiah had his eldest son along with him when proclaiming that prophesy involving her next sign-bearing son (Isaiah 7:3, 8:3). Anyhow, all that to say, revisiting the birth and Messianic lineage of Jesus is an incredibly essential component of re-examining the many developmental errors and problems in Trinitarian thought. And as long as we hold onto the idea that God literally sired Jesus, true Monotheism will continue to remain unnecessarily muddled and suspect in the minds of many believers.
Quran Chapter 4 Verse 171 O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs. Quran Chapter 5 116. And God will say, “O Jesus son of Mary, did you say to the people, `Take me and my mother as gods rather than God?'“ He will say, “Glory be to You! It is not for me to say what I have no right to. Had I said it, You would have known it. You know what is in my soul, and I do not know what is in Your soul. You are the Knower of the hidden. 117. I only told them what You commanded me: that you shall worship God, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them while I was among them; but when You took me to Yourself, You became the Watcher over them-You are Witness over everything. Quran Chapter 3 45. The Angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a Word from Him. His name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, well-esteemed in this world and the next, and one of the nearest. 46. He will speak to the people from the crib, and in adulthood, and will be one of the righteous.” 47. She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child, when no man has touched me?” He said, “It will be so. God creates whatever He wills. To have anything done, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” 48. And He will teach him the Scripture and wisdom, and the Torah and the Gospel. 49. A messenger to the Children of Israel: “I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I make for you out of clay the figure of a bird; then I breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God’s leave. And I heal the blind and the leprous, and I revive the dead, by God’s leave. And I inform you concerning what you eat, and what you store in your homes. In that is a sign for you, if you are believers.” 50. “And verifying what lies before me of the Torah, and to make lawful for you some of what was forbidden to you. I have come to you with a sign from your Lord; so fear God, and obey me.” 51. “God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.” 52. When Jesus sensed disbelief on their part, he said, “Who are my allies towards God?” The disciples said, “We are God’s allies; we have believed in God, and bear witness that we submit.” 53. “Our Lord, we have believed in what You have revealed, and we have followed the Messenger, so count us among the witnesses.” 54. They planned, and God planned; but God is the Best of planners. 55. God said, “O Jesus, I am terminating your life, and raising you to Me, and clearing you of those who disbelieve. And I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return; then I will judge between you regarding what you were disputing. 56. As for those who disbelieve, I will punish them with a severe punishment, in this world and the next, and they will have no helpers. 57. And as for those who believe and do good works, He will give them their rewards in full. God does not love the unjust.” 58. This is what We recite to you of the Verses and the Wise Reminder. 59. The likeness of Jesus in God’s sight is that of Adam: He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be,” and he was. 60. The truth is from your Lord, so do not be of those who doubt. 61. And if anyone disputes with you about him, after the knowledge that has come to you, say, “Come, let us call our children and your children, and our women and your women, and ourselves and yourselves, and let us invoke God’s curse on the liars.” 62. This is the narrative of truth: there is no god but God. God is the Mighty, the Wise. 63. But if they turn away-God knows the corrupt. 64. Say, “O People of the Book, come to terms common between us and you: that we worship none but God, and that we associate nothing with Him, and that none of us takes others as lords besides God.” And if they turn away, say, “Bear witness that we have submitted.” Quran Chapter 19 In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful. 1. Kaf, Ha, Ya, Ayn, Saad. 2. A mention of the mercy of your Lord towards His servant Zechariah. 3. When he called on his Lord, a call in seclusion. 4. He said, “My Lord, my bones have become feeble, and my hair is aflame with gray, and never, Lord, have I been disappointed in my prayer to you. 5. “And I fear for my dependents after me, and my wife is barren. So grant me, from Yourself, an heir. 6. To inherit me, and inherit from the House of Jacob, and make him, my Lord, pleasing.” 7. “O Zechariah, We give you good news of a son, whose name is John, a name We have never given before.” 8. He said, “My Lord, how can I have a son, when my wife is barren, and I have become decrepit with old age?” 9. He said, “It will be so, your Lord says, ‘it is easy for me, and I created you before, when you were nothing.’” 10. He said, “My Lord, give me a sign.” He said, “Your sign is that you will not speak to the people for three nights straight.” 11. And he came out to his people, from the sanctuary, and signaled to them to praise morning and evening. 12. “O John, hold on to the Scripture firmly,” and We gave him wisdom in his youth. 13. And tenderness from Us, and innocence. He was devout. 14. And kind to his parents; and he was not a disobedient tyrant. 15. And peace be upon him the day he was born, and the day he dies, and the Day he is raised alive. 16. And mention in the Scripture Mary, when she withdrew from her people to an eastern location. 17. She screened herself away from them, and We sent to her Our spirit, and He appeared to her as an immaculate human. 18. She said, “I take refuge from you in the Most Merciful, should you be righteous.” 19. He said, “I am only the messenger of your Lord, to give you the gift of a pure son.” 20. She said, “How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, and I was never unchaste?” 21. He said, “Thus said your Lord, `It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign for humanity, and a mercy from Us. It is a matter already decided.'“ 22. So she carried him, and secluded herself with him in a remote place. 23. The labor-pains came upon her, by the trunk of a palm-tree. She said, “I wish I had died before this, and been completely forgotten.” 24. Whereupon he called her from beneath her: “Do not worry; your Lord has placed a stream beneath you. 25. And shake the trunk of the palm-tree towards you, and it will drop ripe dates by you.” 26. “So eat, and drink, and be consoled. And if you see any human, say, ‘I have vowed a fast to the Most Gracious, so I will not speak to any human today.'“ 27. Then she came to her people, carrying him. They said, “O Mary, you have done something terrible. 28. O sister of Aaron, your father was not an evil man, and your mother was not a whore.” 29. So she pointed to him. They said, “How can we speak to an infant in the crib?” 30. He said, “I am the servant of God. He has given me the Scripture, and made me a prophet. 31. And has made me blessed wherever I may be; and has enjoined on me prayer and charity, so long as I live. 32. And kind to my mother, and He did not make me a disobedient rebel. 33. So Peace is upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the Day I get resurrected alive.” 34. That is Jesus son of Mary-the Word of truth about which they doubt. 35. It is not for God to have a child-glory be to Him. To have anything done, He says to it, “Be,” and it becomes. 36. “God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.” 37. But the various factions differed among themselves. So woe to those who disbelieve from the scene of a tremendous Day. 38. Listen to them and watch for them the Day they come to Us. But the wrongdoers today are completely lost. 39. And warn them of the Day of Regret, when the matter will be concluded. Yet they are heedless, and they do not believe.”
Trinity is in (John 14:26). Read: 1 John 5:7 King James Version 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Who is "the Word"? Read: John 1:14 King James Version 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Jesus is the Word. John 1:1 King James Version 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jesus Christ is the Word, God (3 in 1).
Who is the Word made flesh? Anyone manifesting the will of the Father. The Father is the Source. The Spirit is the Breath of Inspiration. And we are the WORD made flesh, as we put on Christ, and thus EXPRESS the true nature of God in all His Divine humility, compassion, gentleness, kindness, patience, peace, joy, and love. But yes, as the Pattern Son, Jesus is definitely that as well! This is Peter’s testimony to Cornelius: “You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how he went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him.” (Acts 10:38) Thus Peter’s testimony is that “God anointed him” and “God was with him.” What Peter doesn’t say is “for He was God.” Likewise Paul taught, “There is one God, and one mediator also between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Tim 2:5).
Wow who knew that a false teaching would be labeled " encouraging" The rapture isnt mentioned verbatim in the Bible; it doesn't mean that it's not in the Bible; 1 John 5:7 “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” John 14:26 King James Version (KJV) 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Isaiah 11:2 King James Version (KJV) 2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord; John 10:30 “I and my Father are one. Isaiah 43:10 Isaiah 44:6 King James Version (KJV) 6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isaiah 45:21 (KJV) 21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the Lord? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Simple illustration of the trinity right now at this exact moment Jesus is at the right hand of the Father at this exact moment; thats two we have the Holy Spirit with us right now thsts 3 - the trinity- Another illustration of the trinity is when jhon baptized Jesus and the Holy spirit appears as a dove; the holy spirit then leads Jesus into the wilderness
Unitarianism destroyed by this question : 1. *If God is loving God, who is God love before the creation?* Trinity is the only answer....unitarianism is nonesense.
1 Corinthians 15:24 New Living Translation After that the end will come, when he will turn the Kingdom over to God the Father, having destroyed every ruler and authority and power. .... Not sure how they can be the same if there is a literal transfer of power here
+dmcarden They aren't the same. People want to claim they _are_ the same and willingly overlook the verses that show GOD *and* Jesus, in heaven TOGETHER, STILL as Father and son!
Deuteronomy 6:13 {The Father said worship only him} Fear the LORD your God, serve him only and take your oaths in his name. Luke 4:8 {Jesus said worship only God} And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him only shalt thou serve Psalm 45:6 {the Holy Spirit uses this to describe God} Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the scepter of thy kingdom is a right scepter. Hebrews 1:8 {the Father calls Jesus God} But unto the Son he {God} saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom. Hebrews 1:6 {the Father tells the angels to worship Jesus} And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world he {God} saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. John 20:28 {Thomas calls Jesus God} And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. { o Kurios mou kai o Theos mou } the definite article. Does Jesus correct Thomas? No, he calls him blessed. Romans 9:5 {Paul calls Jesus GOD} Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen…NIV I Timothy 4:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles believed on in the world, received up into glory. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. John 1:1, 2,3,14 {John calls Jesus God} In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word. He was in [the] beginning with God. All things through him came into being, and without him came into being not even one [thing] which has come into being. And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us, Matthew 1:23 (Matthew calls Jesus GOD} Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Matthew 28:17 {Apostles worship Jesus} Luke 24:52 And when they saw him, they worshiped him: And they worshiped him. Isaiah 7:14 {The Holy Spirit calls Jesus God} Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Revelation 1:8 22:13, 16 (The Father states he is God} I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty. {Jesus states he is GOD} I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Exodus 3:13-14 (the Father states he is I AM THAT I AM) And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, what is his name? What shall I say unto them? And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. John 8:58 10:30-36 {John states Jesus said he is I AM} Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. In His service,
Who is the: First and the Last, Beginning and the end, Alpha and Omega, Creator of all, Only savoir of mankind, Has always existed, Is Omnipresence, Is omniscience, Is Omnipotence, Raised Jesus from the dead, Dwells in all believers, Is our Shepherd, Speaks thru us, Can forgive sins,
Wow, I am so glad I came across this video. Well explained, clear crystal. Everything make sense. Trinity is like 3 carriages driven by one horse. Why would God reveal something to you that you cannot understand & link it to your salvation !!! It beats my imagination how some human beings can accept the trinity and cling to it no matter how you try to reason with them.
Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: Genesis 18:1-3 1 And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; 2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground, 3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:
Jesus states the true God is the Father John 17:3 “And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." Jesus asks why his God abandoned him Matthew 27:46 "At about three o'clock Jesus shouted with a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" that is, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" Jesus tells his disciples that he would be going to their God and his God John 20:17 "Jesus *said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.’” In Revelation Jesus states he hadn't found his followers deeds completed in the sight of his God. Revelation 3:2 "‘Be constantly alert, and strengthen the things that remain, which were about to die; for I have not found your deeds completed in the sight of My God." Jesus states the one who overcomes he would make a pillar in the temple of his God. Revelation 3:12 "‘The one who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will not go out from it anymore; and I will write on him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God, and My new name."
@Flipssss You're quoting 1 Tim 3:16 from the KJV. Modern translations do not read, "God" at 1 Timothy 3:16. Trinitarians make this particular claim by quoting only from the King James Version reading of this verse. Despite the fact that scholars agree that the KJV reading is a certain corruption. Now because this verse is known to be a scribal error, contemporary Trinitarian Greek scholars, who have access to numerous manuscripts, have not been able to perpetuate this error any longer into English translations, despite the passions of some who desire the word "God" to appear in this verse at the expense of truth. Let us look at some of the major translations of this passage and note how Trinitarian Greek scholars themselves acknowledged the scribal error: "He appeared in a body" (NIV) "He who was manifested in the flesh" (ASV) "He who was revealed in the flesh" (NASB) "He was manifested in the flesh" (RSV) "Which was manifested in the flesh" (Douey-Rheims) "Who was manifested in the flesh" (NAB)" The historical evidence indicates the word "God" was not there before the fifthe century. The manuscript evidence indicates the word "God" was not in the original text. All objections based on grammatical and theological grounds are nothing but vain babblings. Christ is the mystery in question which is why the passage should read, "great is the mystery of godliness who/which was manifested in flesh, justified in spirit..." The passage reads smoothly and makes total sense with the rest of Scripture by using either the word "who" or "which" or "that" instead of the word "God" which is an obvious error or forgery. The Douey-Rheims and NAB translations obviously have it right. "Great is the mystery of godliness which/who was manifested in flesh."
@Flipssss There are 217 translations of the verse John 1:1. So 43 translations have John 1:1 translated as a god or divine being. The other 174 have John 1:1 translated as was God. This verse is basically a grammar debate. I find it interesting. John 1:1 (A Liberal Translation of the New Testament (E. Harwood 1768) "Before the origen of this world exifted the LOGOS - who was then with the supreme God - and was himfelf a divine perfon." John 1:1 (American Translation, An (Goodspeed & Smith) "In the beginning the Word existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was divine." John 1:1 (Archbishop Newcome’s New Testament, Improved Version 1809) "The Word was in the beginning, and the Word was with God and the Word was a god." John 1:1 (Authentic New Testament (Schonfield)) "In the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with God. So the Word was Divine." John 1:1 (Barclay New Testament) "When the world began, the Word was already there. The Word was with God, and the nature of the Word was the same as the nature of God." When you look at the context of the NT. You see that the 43 translations accurately translate it be "a god" or "divine being" In the Greek this is: En arche en ho logos, kai ho logos en pros ton theon, kai theos en ho logos. The Greek sentence ends with the crucial words: kai theos en ho logos (“and god was the Word”). We are concerned here with the Greek noun theos (“god”) written without the definite article. This contrasts with the first mentioning of this noun expressed by ton theon, the accusative case of ho theos (“the God”), i.e., the noun theos preceded by the definite article ho. In this verse, reference is made to God and the Logos, not to three beings. When John 1:1 refers to the Word as “god,” there is really no basis for concluding that he is the second person of a triune deity So John 1:14 shows Jesus came in the flesh but a deep study of the original language of John 1:1 you'll find it does not state that Word is God but the word is a divine being that came in flesh. Notice Paul states the Father is the only True God. 1 Corinthians 8:6 "yet for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him." Interestingly Paul says that Jesus is the first born of all creation. Colossians 1:15 "The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation." It shows Jesus had a beginning. Also Paul shows that Jesus and Yahweh are completely different entities. 1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus," Notice the scriptures say God is not a man or a son of man. Numbers 23:19 “God is not a man, that He would lie, Nor a son of man, that He would change His mind; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?" Hosea 11:9 "I will not carry out My fierce anger; I will not destroy Ephraim again. For I am God and not a man, the Holy One in your midst, And I will not come in wrath."
@Flipssss I probably shouldn't have used the word corrupted but poorly translated. An example would be 1 John 5:7-8 often referred to as the Johannine Comma.
Part two John 43 The following day Jesus wanted to go to Galilee, and He found Philip and said to him, “Follow Me.” 44Now Philip was from Bethsaida, the city of Andrew and Peter. 45Philip found Nathanael and said to him, “We have found Him of whom Moses in the law, and also the prophets, wrote-Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.” 46And Nathanael said to him, “Can anything good come out of Nazareth?” Philip said to him, “Come and see.” 47Jesus saw Nathanael coming toward Him, and said of him, “Behold, an Israelite indeed, in whom is no deceit!” 48 Nathanael said to Him, “How do You know me?” Jesus answered and said to him, “Before Philip called you, when you were under the fig tree, I saw you.” 49 Nathanael answered and said to Him, “Rabbi, You are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!”
50Jesus answered and said to him, “Because I said to you, ‘I saw you under the fig tree,’ do you believe? You will see greater things than these.” 51And He said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, hereafterj you shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of Man.” 1:48-50 What exactly occurred under the fig tree is not stated. St. John Chrysostom teaches this was the meeting place of Philip and Nathanael (vv. 45, 46), and that Jesus was praising Nathanael for being so diligent and careful in His search for the Messiah. Christ’s foreknowledge and His ability to see into Nathanael’s heart stir him to this confession of faith (v. 49). 1:51 The title Son of Man is a title of the Messiah that had a level of mystery in its meaning, indicating a man of heavenly origin who would usher in the Kingdom of God (Dan 7:13, 14). In an OT prophecy, Jacob dreamed of a ladder connecting earth to heaven, upon which the angels of God were ascending and descending (Gn 28:12-15). Jesus is this “ladder” who unites earth to heaven, and therefore is this Son of Man. In his Gospel, John gives a specific and definitive explanation of who Christ is. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (1:1). John the Baptist, the Forerunner of Christ, revealed God the Word as “the Light” (1:7). “The Word became flesh and dwelt among us” (1:14). Who then is Jesus Christ? 1. He is God, for He was with God from before all time. Clearly, the One born Jesus of Nazareth did not have His beginning in His earthly birth. Rather, He is the eternal Son of God, without beginning. There never was a time when the Son of God did not exist. 2. He is also man, for He “became flesh.” He has become one of us, being like us in all things, but without sin. 3. He acts both as God and as man, doing what is appropriate for each nature in the unity provided by His one divine Person. Never does divine nature and activity become changed into human nature and activity. The two are in union without confusion. Christ does, however, “energize” human nature with divine energy so that human nature is redeemed from sin and death and brought into union with God. He thus “deifies” humanity. The miracle of these incomparable truths is known as the knowledge of Christ or “Christology.” Many documents have expounded on Christology, but the definitive text is the Nicene Creed, the outcome of the first and second Ecumenical Councils in the fourth century. The Creed of Chalcedon (issued by the Fourth Ecumenical Council, AD 451) embodies other truths concerning the Incarnation of the Word. These creeds set the doctrinal fences outside of which we do not wander in our knowledge of Christ. The apostle John bears witness to Christ: “That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life-the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us-that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ” (1Jn 1:1-3). We, too, bear witness to Jesus Christ. For since God became man, and we are united with Him in baptism, we experience His Incarnation in our lives. The miracle of Christology for us is that, as the Son of God became man, we in turn may participate in God. Concerning John 20:24-29 The doubt of Thomas is described in the Church hymns as “blessed,” for it was not a doubt of resistance to truth, but one that desperately desired a truthful answer-a “doubt which gave birth to faith” when the answer was revealed. In hymns of the Church, Christ says to Thomas, “Your doubt will teach My Passion and Resurrection to all,” and we affirm that his doubt “brought the hearts of believers to knowledge.” The conversion of Thomas’ doubt into faith led him to the clearest confession of Christ’s divinity, addressing Jesus as my Lord and my God (v. 28).
That's easy. The heavens opened up and God's holy spirit (his active force) rested upon Jesus' shoulder, taking the form of a white dove. The reason God transformed his active force into a dove was for John's sake (John 1:32-34) And Yahweh declared out of heaven that Jesus was His Son and that he is the Messiah.
GOD Almighty or the LORD has revealed his name to us Isaiah 42:8 says I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, nor my praise to graven images.
@@jesusisjehovah Simply because JESUS of the new testament is JEHOVAH of the old testament. JEHOVAH (THE WORD) was made flesh. GOD (JEHOVAH) was manifested in the flesh as our LORD JESUS. HE is GOD in flesh. Not "a" GOD in flesh nor one of the personas of GOD in flesh. HE is GOD in flesh. Now GOD being manifested in the flesh doesn't mean that GOD was no longer in heaven. Let's not put HIM in a box. GOD is OMNIPRESENT. HE can be in heaven and at the same time in flesh to fulfill the prophecy. JESUS CHRIST (meaning GOD in FLESH) is called the SON of GOD because HE came from GOD. The SPIRIT of GOD came upon Mary and she bore a CHILD. HE is the IMAGE of the INVISIBLE GOD. To put this into conclusion, GOD the ALMIGHTY was manifested in the FLESH called the CHRIST. When GOD was called FATHER by the LORD JESUS, it was when HE was speaking in FLESH and was calling out to GOD in heaven (WHO is actually present everywhere).
The reason by seeing the Word of God as God is because The Father might do His miraculous Spiritual work at the speed of Light(God is Light) through seeing the word and believing the word. So The only thing in The Way from Knowing God is The Shape of The Letters, so since leters are just shapes, they are also just expressions. And To know God he would have to express himself to us even without the word. The Word of God is God amen No man comes to God but by His word. And no man knows the whole father, but through His spirit, The Holy Spirit, We have a knowledge of God. The Only way to The Holy Spirit is through the word of God. And Since Letter/word is at the speed of Ligth/expression in the name of The Father, The Scripture that speaks on That there are three that bare witness in heaven, The Father, The Word, and The Holy Spirit and these three are one. This scripture makes sense. But I dont believe that this teaches the trintiy. I made a new vdeio on this. th-cam.com/video/T34CQpHYA1A/w-d-xo.html
God may also say..."I AM THE MOST MERCIFUL", I AM THE ALMIGHTY...does that meant God saying 'Merciful or Almighty' is his name...doenst make any sense..ohhh by the way..the meaning of jehovah is...I am That I Am...is not his name...just only a reference to show his divinity! So what is the actual NAME of God...in hebrew dictionary,Eloah is used as a name or a word for God..which shares the same meaning of Allah in Arabic! th-cam.com/video/65zyICBKBPI/w-d-xo.html
@@jeckcovers8645 then according to u God is still one but take different form and exist in three form at the same time..(listen to yourself)..then when God (jesus) died are the rest persons of the Trinity still living?
Another key giveaway is that not only do people that believe in the trinity have to use a lot of let’s say abstract explaining, but they all use the same 2 or 3 quotes, most notably 1 John 5:7. But not only can that quote be debunked, but there are literally hundreds of quotes that support the monotheistic God belief.
That verse is 1 John actually destroys their lie , not sure why they wanna use it , ARE one and IN one are two entirely different meanings , and that's why it says ARE one . If I give you three titles that apply to me and say these three ARE one , would it then make sense to assume I'm three people ... If I witness a car accident and get covered with glass and then say , there are three that bare record of the accident , my mind , my senses , my emotions , does that mean I all of a sudden become three people? That verse is horrible for them and I don't know why they use it , it's not a good verse , they are better off using the baptism or Jesus praying to the spirit , not that it helps them when dealing with God's chosen sons , but , it makes more sense to use than that verse .
Thanks for this, the truth has nothing to fear. The trinity is simply not found in the Bible. It's sad so many prople are so captive of a wrong doctrine.
You just ignore scripture. Jacob called the Angel of the Lord Elohim in gen 48:15-16. That's Jesus. You can also find YHVH being sent by YHVH in Zec 2:8-13 Research "The angel of the Lord". This is an OT secret revealed only to those worthy of the kingdom, not people who read the bible less than 20 seconds a day.
The Trinity Doctrine makes void the love of YHWH for His Son and makes void Jesus' love for the Father as a "child of God/offspring". If Jesus the Son of God YHWH is our ONLY example to follow, then we should walk the path in which he Jesus pointed to; the Way back to the One True God. Jesus warned us about others that would come in his name and truly the Trinity Doctrine is about a "different Jesus".
He claimed to be the way to the Father of course! He and the Father are one. Very easy. For a man to point to himself, as the way to God, is blasphemy according to the jews. That's, as the jews said, making himself God. Why can't you see that?
+Kevin Hauk - Yes, Christ is the only way to the Father. He made this claim while never making the claim that He WAS the Father. He and the Father have the same purpose. That does not make Jesus God, as you and the Jews who 'killed' Him and anyone else without the Holy Spirit claims.
Boy you are obtuse. Trinitarians never claimed Jesus was the father. Get it right. John 1:1. Nuff said. You cannot disprove this, nor even answer the question that has been asked of you so many times. Which is very telling. Who did Isaiah see?
I don’t see how this is hard for the rest of other denominations to grasp. It is so simple. Jesus is not God. This doesn’t take away from Jesus being the Messiah and the importance of his teaching and his divinity.
Isaiah 45: 5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: John 20: 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Come on you guys its obvious, the Father is the only true God (John 17:3). Let's compare The Trinity 1. The Bible never teaches it 2. It doesn't make any sense 3. The Jews, of whom our Lord and savior Jesus is, never heard about it (Would Paul have encountered difficulty in telling His fellow Jews about a Trinity? Of course he would!) 4. It causes all kinds of problems 5. Would the God who loved us so much to send His Son really not tell us the very first thing about Himself? I think he did Mk 12:28-34 vs. One God & One Lord 1. Thousands of scriptures referring to the Father as God as distinct from Jesus our Lord 2. Makes total sense 3. Historically believable for early Jewish audience 4. Has the power to win believers back as we can end the fighting and unite under "One God and Father of all who is above all and through all and in all" Eph 4:6 Seriously Mk 12:28-34!
John 17:3 doesn't prove the Unitarian position. "You, the only true God" This phrase indicates three things: 1. The Father is God 2. There is only one God 3. God is true. If you look at what the Trinity teaches, everything is the exact same. The Trinity also teaches: 1. The Father is God. 2. There is only one God. 3. God is true. So let me ask you, where, in John 17:3, does the contradiction exist?
And about your references to Mark 12:28-34, your argument falls apart when you realize there is not a single piece of evidence that indicates Jews were Unitarians.
ChristianMetalFan100 Very Goo Point, Jews believe in Elohim the world Elohim is Plural. and many Biblical Verses indicate Jews ware Monotheistic Polytheist For example Psalm 82:1 A psalm of Asaph. God has taken His place in the divine assembly; He judges among the gods.
ChristianMetalFan100 Cmon seriously there is no piece of evidence suggesting the Jews were Unitarians? Even in Mk 12 what does the man say - "You are right teacher , you have truly said that 'HE is one, and besides HIM there is no other" So obviously the "Him" is the Father; one person and not three. And your sad breakup of John 17:3 argument is. Even in John 5:44 it says the same thing, Jesus tells us to seek glory from "the one who alone is God". Notice once again it is the Father. Seriously how many times and how many ways must this be said? Gabriel Sosa Weak point, and now we are accusing the Jews of Polytheism? Seriously, how far do we have to go to protect this? "Monotheistic-Polytheist"? That's like saying "Vegan-Carnivores"!! Just come and believe in what Paul says, that there is only "one God and Father of all" Eph 4:6. Seriously you guys, you can end the fighing by simply acknowledging the "King of the ages, immortal, invisible, the only God" 1 Tim 1:17 Give Him the glory just as Jesus did!
Matthew Graham The He and Him that the Jew was referring was the God of Deuteronomy 6:4, which you can't prove was the Father exclusively. John 5:44 doesn't help you either. There is only one God. Both in Unitarianism and Trinitarianism. Plus, you NEVER addressed the evidence I gave you, nor did you address my rebuttal of John 17:3. I agree with Ephesians 4:6. We are acknowledging the King, you aren't. Jesus said in John 5:23 to honor him in the exact same way you honor the Father. You honor the Father as God, thus you must also honor Jesus as God. Which is something you do not do.
How non-Trinity Christians explain Jesus’ own words in John 17:5, “Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began”?
@@Kaden_Smith242 you couldn't explain the Trinity if you tried. It's pure gibberish. Even the trinitarians admit they don't know what they're talking about.
Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begets not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.
Surah Al Ikhlas ❤
Nor is he begotten? So the scriptures were lieing about him being begotten ? Your name is Demon could you get any more blasphemous. I'll be praying for you.
@@sweatymango5564 God is not begotten, my friend. God is more greater than his creation, because he is the Creator❤
Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a Son is born, unto us a child is given, and the government shall be on his shoulders, and his name shall be, Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlating Father, The Prince of Peace."
@A B Jesus is the Son of God, and guess who dwells within him?
John 10:30 state I and the Father are One. Said Yeshua Hammashiach.
1 John 5:7 reads: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
John 3:13
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Revelation of JC in Rev 1:8. Mic drop.
meanwhile in Islam, the core belief is Tauhid which is saying God is One and only to Him we worship.
meanwhile in Islam, Mohammed never even knew God's name was Jehovah (יהוה).
Read the prophecy about the Wheat and the Weeds at Matthew 13: 24-30, 36-43, the corruption of Christianity was foretold by Jesus himself, and it was only to be in the time before Armageddon that it would resurface. We are now in that time. Very exciting times indeed.
Mohammed was prophesied about twice at least in the Bible, here are those two I'm talking about... Genesis 16: 10-12; Galatians 1: 8, 9.
@@jianju4916 irrelevant, God's name in arabic is Allah.
@Mr Lions Every community has it's own problems, but in this context about who is god and the holy trinity, Islam is more logical.
The problem with Islam is that Muhammad's teachings were in contradiction to Jesus' teachings. You only have to look at what they said about divorce, sexuality, violence, and peace to understand that.
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1. Muhammad (PBUH) never preached any thing violent (in context), that I know of.
2. I don't know how violence, sexuality, divorce, and peace came into this discussion. I was talking about how every community has problems. This video was about the holy trinity and if we look at this logically, the trinity doesn't make any sense. Of course I understand the idea of god is something we can't fathom, but belief of a superior deity has to based on some sort of reason or logic. The holy trinity isn't really logical and is lacking in reason (I could give you a few points on this but this is turning into something else so I'll stop for now).
3. Essentially, if we base our beliefs on logic and reason and we don't blindly believe, Islam comes out as the most sensible religion. I try to open my eyes and look at other's point of views but nothing really adds up like Islam does. I'm not gonna try preaching because i'm no professional, nor am I that educated. But, I hope you can look around and see what makes most sense to you.
P.S. I don't really get it when you say Muhammad's (PBUH) teachings contradict with Isa (AS) (aka. Jesus), can you give me a few examples of such?
In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
1. Say, “He is God, the One.
2. God, the Absolute.
3. He begets not, nor was He begotten.
4. And there is nothing comparable to Him.”
ONLY the spirit can interpret that wisdom, but a trinitarian doesn't understand this.
(He begets not, nor was He begotten.)
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if he begat not who is jesus.......
@@Cleonisal the original comment is a muslim believe to insult Jesus as not being the begotten son of God.
@@thehonesttruth278 it is not an insult..it is word from god....a muslim is not a good muslim if he insult Jesus PBUH.
@@lukoispratera7550 also we believe islam is false and mohamad is a false and not qualified to be a prophet. its not an insult its the truth based on a description of a false prophet from the bible.
GOD is not a God of CONFUSION, and theTRINITY is a perfect example of CONFUSION.
4sho 😂
Does it confuse you that you live in a three dimensional world?
@@faithfultheology if we can live in three dimensional world, why can't God be three persons while remaining one God?
@@faithfultheology if it is not confusing to understand we live in 3D world, is it confusing that God is 3 persons one God?
@@faithfultheology well, we could see that there is God,
there is the Angel of the Lord, who is also God,
and the holy spirit can be grieved in places like Isaiah 63:10 and Ephisians 4:30
God is One
John 1
@Apple PieI could not do it better than your reply and I do understand, God The Father and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit and all three are one God. A person just has to understand God, see Jesus the Christ and understand what he is all about and why the whole world needs him to do away with Evil and Death and give us a new eternal Life and make all things new, that is love! Bless you Apple Pie.
Blue101 Blue102 John 5:7-8 King James Version (KJV)
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Then explain why God's Word states all 3 (Tri) entities resurrected Jesus from the dead:
1.) Acts 4:10-God the Father raises Jesus from the dead.
2.) John 2:19-Jesus declared that He will raise Himself up in 3 days
3.) Romans 8:11-The Holy Spirit raises Jesus from the dead.
And if the Bible affirms that all three Triune nature of the Godhead raises the Begotten Son from the dead. Then that confirms one of many passages in the Bible supporting the doctrine of the Trinity. No one or nothing can raise the Lord from the dead, except the Triune God Himself.
Exegetical Nationalist in Christ We are saying the same thang
How can any person with a modicum of sense read where Jesus quoted the Shema as the first and great commandment and still believe in the trinity.
Well the quick answer is no human sees clearly here on Earth, when it comes to understanding God. 1 Corinthians 13:12.
You may be interested to know there is one and only one human recorded in the Bible, that has seen God clearly, face to face IN HEAVEN! 1 Corinthians 13:12.
Would you care to see what he has to say on this topic?
The following is not intended to prove there is a Trinity, but to show from the best source in scripture that Jesus is God Almighty, which simultaneously debunks the One and Only God belief system, and avoids debating Trinity vs. non Trinity.
This is my answer to those who don't believe Jesus is God.
Best proof in the Bible, that Jesus is God, disproving the One and Only God, heresy.
1.
If Jesus is not God, then how do you reconcile that belief with Rev. 22:16 and Rev. 22:6-9?
Jesus is God, because He sent HIS Holy Prophet from heaven, HAVING SEEN GOD FACE TO FACE, to the Holy Prophet John in the Revelation, telling us Jesus is Lord God of the Holy Prophets!
Jesus sent His Prophet.
Only God can send HIS PROPHETS!
2.
The Prophet Jesus sent from heaven IS THE ONLY HUMAN SOURCE ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE, having seen GOD CLEARLY, face to face IN HEAVEN!
1 Corinthians 13:12
EVERYONE ELSE SPEAKING IN THE BIBLE, YOU, ME, EVERYONE, just don't see clearly.
1 Corinthians 13:12
Again, Jesus' BIBLE HOLY PROPHET, seeing clearly, says Jesus is LORD GOD of the HOLY PROPHETS!
One of GOD's Holy Prophets, certainly knows WHO HIS GOD IS!!
3.
God's Holy Prophet John, who is 'in the Spirit' throughout his vision, after seeing and hearing Jesus and God's Holy Prophet in Revelation 22:16 and Rev. 22:6-9, calls Jesus LORD GOD ALMIGHTY in his introduction to the vision HE HAS ALREADY SEEN and HEARD.
Rev. 1:7,8.
That's Jesus and two Holy Prophets, ONE JESUS SENT FROM HEAVEN, SEEING CLEARLY, WE DON'T, telling you JESUS IS GOD!!!!!
Did you forgot that trinitarians believe in one God?
@@bolingdang6020 Yes they believe that Jesus is God and that is false. When Jesus was accused of claiming to be God He even told his accusers that that was not what he claimed to be. Yet here we are, people still accusing Jesus of being God. He told us who he is... The son of God. God has a name and it’s not Jesus it’s YHWH, YAHWEH, JEHOVAH. A name written 6000 +times in the Bible. A name that Jehovah wanted to be known. Yet people justify and perfectly accept reading a bible that does not include his personal name. They’re fine reading bible that says LORD and wrongfully attributing that to Jesus. This is your wake up call
@@Artbycheria i dont think you can read the Gospel according to John and say Jesus is not God. Can you point out a verse that said people accused Jesus of being God and denied He it? Because the magi worshiped him, He accepts people who worshipped him when the waves stopped on His command, and also asks us to pray in His name.
@@Artbycheria actually tho, i dont think that YHWH is the name of God, but an indication that It is God. When you use the Greek Septuagint (old testament that Jesus probably used), you won't find the word YHWH(יהוה). When Moses asked God for His name, God answered "hayah Asher hayah"/ "ehyah asher ehyah, which can mean different things including "I am who I am", "I will become what I choose to become", "I am what I am", "I will be what I will be", "I create what I create", or "I am the Existing One".
We can see parallels of Jesus and the Angel of the LORD. For example They both carried the name of God and Jesus said Abraham rejoiced to see His day.
Fortunately, I read the bible before anyone had a chance to indoctrinate me with the Trinity concept. I am so incredibly thankful for this. I am shocked beyond belief that the Trinity doctrine is believed by so many who call themselves "Christians". Christ spoke of the "wide" gate and the many that will go that way. The amount of people who are presently deceived by the Trinity Doctrine is certainly in line with what he said.
What if oneness is a deception?
Evolution and The Trinity Doctrine is nothing but Anti God Teachings
Exactly the same with me. Trinity must be learned from teaching, it cannot be learned from reading the Bible.
Read your Bible again
Meanwhile, the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain Jesus had designated. When they saw Him, they worshiped Him, but some doubted. Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”
Matthew 28:16-20 BSB
The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
And they were calling out to one another: “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of Hosts; all the earth is full of His glory.”
Isaiah 6:3 BSB
God is Holy Holy Holy.
One Holy each for the Father, and for the Son and for the Holy Spirit.
"La ilaha illalah" - "There is no God but God"
There is no God but YHWH.
I'm the LORD and there is no one else; there is no God but me. I have armored you, although you did not know me yet (Isaiah 45:5).
@@ex-trinitarian5196 Surah 2:255
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Allah! There is no God but He,
the Living, the Self-subsisting, the Eternal.
No slumber can seize Him, nor sleep.
All things in heaven and earth are His.
Who could intercede in His presence without His permission?
He knows what appears in front of and behind His creatures.
Nor can they encompass any knowledge of Him except what he wills.
His throne extends over the heavens and the earth,
and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them,
for He is the Highest and Most Exalted.
There is no God but Allah, Allah in Arabic doesn't mean 'God' 'God' in Arabic is 'illah/illahi and Rabbi'
@@ex-trinitarian5196 You’re too caught up with the Arabic. The word « Allah » literally means God.
Arab Christians call their God Allah.
@@theresonlyone8881 Yes "Allah" is not a name either it just means "the God" so why shouldn't Arabic Christians use it if it is their mother tongue? Arabic translations of the Bible also have "Allah" in the scripture.
But we also say "Arab" which means "LORD" to distinguish ourselves from Muslims.
Real answer: Man made doctrine
Ok then why did jesus I and father are one and baptize all men in the name of father son and holy spirit huh.
He was sent to guide the lost people of Israel. The Romans made him a God now they worship his idol, an artist's imagination 🎨 👥. Some Christians I know even call out Mary's name while praying 🙏🙇🙌
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala said:
يٰٓأَهْلَ الْكِتٰبِ لَا تَغْلُوا فِى دِينِكُمْ وَلَا تَقُولُوا عَلَى اللَّهِ إِلَّا الْحَقَّ ۚ إِنَّمَا الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ أَلْقٰىهَآ إِلٰى مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِّنْهُ ۖ فَئَامِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦ ۖ وَلَا تَقُولُوا ثَلٰثَةٌ ۚ اِنْتَهُوا خَيْرًا لَّكُمْ ۚ إِنَّمَا اللَّهُ إِلٰهٌ وٰحِدٌ ۖ سُبْحٰنَهُۥٓ أَنْ يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٌ ۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِى السَّمٰوٰتِ وَمَا فِى الْأَرْضِ ۗ وَكَفٰى بِاللَّهِ وَكِيلًا
"O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, Three; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs."
(Quran. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 171)
@@xxafthabxx9346 that dosen't answer the question. Well I can say that similar too. Muhammad wasn't a prophet later caliphate made him prophet.
2.Why should I care what quran says written by half a millennium later.
@@Frostx-t7m You believe in the trinity so I have no interest in talking to you.i I want co-existence and peace.
@@xxafthabxx9346 More over I dont know to the question right
The trinity is unexplainable!
No matter how hard someone tries to explain what the trinity is, it makes a sober person sound like a drunk when they try!
Whoever came with this trinity ideology made billions of people go astray, and all the people who believe the trinity, believe and follow the trinity doctrine BLINDLY.
Think of a flame, you can make another flame, they are the same but different. I Understand what that Christian is saying. Amen. He did Great!
Agreed, one consequence of belief in the trinity is you lose logic as an exegetical tool. You have to throw out logic and that can't lead one to the truth. Issac Newton didn't believe the trinity either and he could have been the smartest man alive in his day.
Wait, so just because you and everyone you've known can't explain it, that makes it false? Do you know that without faith it's impossible to please God, Hebrews 11:6? Many Bible truths are unexplainable to finite, mortal, carnal man, 1 Cor. 2:14. Okay, I won't even use the word "trinity", but I believe in the following because the Bible itself proves it: One God existing as three distinct persons, all equally ONE GOD. It doesn't matter if I can't explain it. The Bible proves it and therefore I believe it by faith. Obviously the Bible identifies God as The Father, no one disputes that. But the Bible also identifies God as the son/Christ and the Holy Ghost:
1 John 5:7, For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
God identified as the son/Christ:
Isaiah 9:6, For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
John 1:1-3, 14, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 20:28-29, And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Also:
Compare Isaiah 44:6 with Rev 1:8, 1:11, 1:17-18 & Rev 22:12-16, 20
Compare Deuteronomy 32:4 & 1 Sam. 2:2 with 1 Corinthians 10:4
Compare Isaiah 40:3 with Matt. 3:1-3 & Mark 1:1-3
God identified as the Holy Ghost:
Acts 5:3-4, But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
God identified as One ("these three are one"):
1 Corinthians 8:4-6
Galatians 3:20
Ephesians 4:6
Each person is distinct from the other:
John 14:16, And I (Christ) will pray the Father, and he shall give you ANOTHER Comforter (Holy Ghost), that he may abide with you for ever;
Notice how Christ is praying to the Father and he shall give ANOTHER (distinct from the Father, distinct from the Son) Comforter.
Now, forget about man's ideologies, traditions and doctrines of devils and even your ability or inability to explain it. Either you believe the clear biblical proof or you don't.
Did you know that water can coexist in three distinct states? At an exact air pressure of 611.73 pascals or 6.1173 millibars and an exact temperature of 0.01 °C or 32.018 °F, water will coexist in liquid, solid and vapor states in thermodynamic equilibrium. It's called the triple point of water if you want to look it up. Whether anyone can explain that or not, it doesn't negate its veracity. Water is water. At that exact combination of air pressure and temperature, either the liquid, solid or vapor can (hypothetically) accurately claim to be the "one true water" and neither would be wrong. In either state, it's no less water than in the other two states. Now, with that being true for water, what makes anything impossible for an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent God?
@@jimmie_g “It makes a sober person sound drunk when they try”
At the end of the day do you expect an infinite all powerful god to be explained and understood in a couple sentences by our human minds?
No thinking Christian believes in the trinity. It's a construct of the early Roman Catholic church that still carried pagan sensibilities.
That’s a good train of thought. As a Muslim, I am not asking you to consider Islam since with your belief system and by the definition of a Muslim you’re already one. The Quran already mentions that true Christians like you and the true Jews are companions of the same true religion.
Just one question, do you still believe then that Jesus still was the Lord in a man’s body ?
Yeshua told NO ONE to be Christian. Let's get back to the scriptures.
@@theholyoneofisrael.9550 I agree. If I could go back 1990 years to Israel I too would be a disciple of Yeshua. However, I was born a Christian in a Judeo-Christian civilisation which changed the world remarkably for the good. Virtually all the evils carried out by "Christian" people and nations towards the jews, has been done in Jesus' name, but not as per his teachings. It was carried out by evil people. Yeshua would have been horrified.
@@ianwilson8759 spot on.
You are correct 100% the trinity is false. We should be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sin and to receive the gift of the holy spirit. This is why people who are baptized in titles do not have a spiritual transformation or have the gift of speaking in tongues. God has woken me up to the Truth and so many are decieved by the trinity and the most problematic part is they will argue all day about it and shame you for not accepting the trinity baptism in titles. They refuse to accept that Jesus Christ is the name above every other name. The trinity is leading people to a false baptism that does not have the power to make you a new being in Christ Jesus.
When I question the origins of Christmas and Easter and Sunday worship... I am scrutinized for questioning the origins
Try questioning who the real descendants of Jacob who was renamed Israel are.
The Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ is the Easter and Sunday is the He Resurrected and so that day was put above all days. So every Sunday is meant to remember the Resurrection and is therefore referred to as a mini Easter
Christmas is the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ and it happened on 25th December in the year 5199 since the world was created. The world is now 7024 years old
@@innocentmwesigye5398Where in the bible does it say “put sunday above others”? Jesus only spoke about easter and say “keep doing this in memory of me” but not the pagan easter of today, he never said “have a rabbit symbolize easter & make it a game for kids”
@@innocentmwesigye5398Christmas is not the birth of Jesus. It is well known that Jesus was not born on December 25th. Do a little bit of research for yourself, educate yourself a bit more. Dont just go off of what others tell you to believe. Also look at where Christmas really came from, Jesus never celebrated his birthday when he was in earth, nor does the bible say to remember and celebrate his birthday or do gift exchanges.
What about Jesus' death? He prays to his father for strength for what was about to happen. When he ministered, he said 'i have come to do the will of my father who sent me.' The Trinity makes no sense.
People who are crucified don't die in 6 hours it's a several day process
@@aa-zv8bt ok medical doctor 😂😂😂
@@aa-zv8bt Romans Stabbed him with a spear, what a non sense man
God is not supposed to make sense to us!
You are asking a fair question, but I think you misunderstand what the doctrine of the trinity actually says. The word "trinity" is used to describe the nature of God's being as described in the Bible. You are essentially saying "The Father is not The Son!", and that is CORRECT. To believe in the Trinity is not to believe that The Father, The Son, and The Holy are the same persons, the Bible is clear that they are not the same person. What the Trinity does say is that these 3 persons, in a higher and more holy way than our mortal minds can comprehend, together are ONE God. This is to reconcile the biblical statement that the Lord our God is one God.
There's some other aspects to the doctrine of the trinity, namely that these 3 persons are coeternal (These 3 always have been and always will be) and coexistent (Think of the Baptism of Jesus, all 3 were present at the same time). This affirms the Biblical truth that God is eternal and that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit act in perfect unison.
On a really shallow level, consider your favorite sports team. It's comprised of multiple persons, who act together in perfect unison to be one. It's not incredibly fruitful to try and liken the nature of God, which our finite minds cannot completely grasp, to something so simple, but just to give a simple example I like that one.
THANK YOU !
When ever you question a bunch on Trinitarians they'd give you completely different answers about their faith. It doesn't make anysense.
who is the son? and the holy spirit?
Cleonisal God
Such as?
still waiting...
@@canderssonswedican7486 If jesus, holy spirit, father have the same essence and soul why aren't they equal and did God made jesus
Im a Muslim and i always have conversations with Christians telling them the trinity was not part of early Christianity. Peace be upon Jesus the Messiah sent from Allah
Shalom Aleichem
@@brentbeatty4171 walaykum asalam
You know that Jesus is the Messiah but you're a Muslim? Jesus is God manifest in the flesh , read 1timothy 3:16 , John 1:1 and Isaiah 9:6 ... Islam is a lie , Jesus warned you not to let the traditions of the world deceive you , Christian prince channel will help you see the lies of Islam , he is arabic , he will make it clear for you even in your own language , this is as far as I would go , once he makes it easy to see Islam is a lie and demonic , just go to Jesus Christ yourself from this point , read a king James in whatever language you can understand and pray to Jesus Christ , do not let a tradition drag you to hell .... Please, and yes , God is one , Jesus Christ is he , he's not just a Messiah , he's God , you think God needs help from someone to save his people? What kind of a weak creator would that be............use logic , be humble , God will reveal how it all happened and is possible what he did .
@@onlymyself7225 John 4:24 God is spirit
Luke 24:39 Jesus Christ is flesh not spirit.
So Jesus is not God because God is spirit which is not flesh and Jesus is Flesh which is not spirit.🤟🔥💯🙏
@@fariha67254 It is ironic that you put metal devil horn emote at the end.
As a Muslim I’ve always questioned why Christians are so hard bend on the trinity thing . No other Monotheistic religion from the time of Adam, Moses and the other prophets that followed ever preached an idea of trinity. They all had the same message to worship the one God and suddenly Jesus come up and be like I am all three ( I know he never says that) . If I was a thinking christian, I would believe in the one unseen God while sticking to Jesus’s teachings
Don't be fooled by such things, the trinity is not a Christian concept, never was, never will be.
Trinitarians going-around calling themselves Christians are part of a apostacy of the true Christ recorded in scripture.
Jesus warned of such behavior while on earth, and things are unfolding just as He predicted they would.
1 John 5:7-8
As someone that read the Bible a few times through before even going to church or listening to Christian speakers it seemed obvious to me the God and Jesus were two separate beings. The Bible made it clear to me that God was God, Jesus was God’s first and most loved creation and that the Holy spirit is just a way of saying God’s is doing something on earth with His power. It was only after listening to Christian speakers and what churches believed that I learned of the trinity believe. To this day the trinity believe still seems like an illogical teaching that is being forced on the Bible instead of being taken out of the Bible.
Juan oliver you are logically wright
That is a heresy called arianism that was wildly condemned by the early church.
@Noah Scheid What do you mean drop the cross?
@Noah Scheid Oh ok. Why do you believe that? And why do you say he didn't die for our sins? Can you provide evidence to back that up?
@Noah Scheid I can't find the Playlist.
Jesus said hear Israel our lord God is one. End of story
Yup
End of story?
Did you know Trinitarians believe God is one?
Bottom line is you, I, everyone here on Earth don't see clearly.
1 Corinthians 13:12.
There is one, and only one human source in the Bible that has seen God face to face, IN HEAVEN, CLEARLY, that has something to say on this topic.
1 Corinthians 13:12
Would you care to see what he, Jesus, and one of God's earthly Holy Prophets have to say on this topic?
The following is not intended to prove there is a Trinity, but to show from the best source in scripture that Jesus is God Almighty, which simultaneously debunks the One and Only God belief system, and avoids debating Trinity vs. non Trinity.
This is my answer to those who don't believe Jesus is God.
Best proof in the Bible, that Jesus is God, disproving the One and Only God, heresy.
1.
If Jesus is not God, then how do you reconcile that belief with Rev. 22:16 and Rev. 22:6-9?
Jesus is God, because He sent HIS Holy Prophet from heaven, HAVING SEEN GOD FACE TO FACE, to the Holy Prophet John in the Revelation, telling us Jesus is Lord God of the Holy Prophets!
Jesus sent His Prophet.
Only God can send HIS PROPHETS!
2.
The Prophet Jesus sent from heaven IS THE ONLY HUMAN SOURCE ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE, having seen GOD CLEARLY, face to face IN HEAVEN!
1 Corinthians 13:12
EVERYONE ELSE SPEAKING IN THE BIBLE, YOU, ME, EVERYONE, just don't see clearly.
1 Corinthians 13:12
Again, Jesus' BIBLE HOLY PROPHET, seeing clearly, says Jesus is LORD GOD of the HOLY PROPHETS!
One of GOD's Holy Prophets, certainly knows WHO HIS GOD IS!!
3.
God's Holy Prophet John, who is 'in the Spirit' throughout his vision, after seeing and hearing Jesus and God's Holy Prophet in Revelation 22:16 and Rev. 22:6-9, calls Jesus LORD GOD ALMIGHTY in his introduction to the vision HE HAS ALREADY SEEN and HEARD.
Rev. 1:7,8.
That's Jesus and two Holy Prophets, ONE JESUS SENT FROM HEAVEN, SEEING CLEARLY, WE DON'T, telling you JESUS IS GOD!!!!!
@@clarawagon9019 take a breath, relax. I don’t believe a trinity but I do believe Jesus is God. Be careful what you call a heresy. Been seeing revelation 22 pointed out lately. It doesn’t prove a trinity, triune, or 3 persons. Just one God.
@@YOCITAS1 we are made in the pure image of God. We are also 3 in 1: mind body and spirit. Apply this to God. Father Son Holy Spirit. Both are 3 in 1. Is our mind body and spirit three different beings? No. apply that to God.
@@YOCITAS1
I have a post where I just say all I need to do is show Jesus is God, don't need to show the Trinity to prove the ONE AND ONLY GOD BELIVERS to be in error.
It is clear to me that you are not one of God's Holy Prophets sent from heaven to instruct me.
The only human source in the entire Bible that has seen God clearly face to face, is one of God's Holy Prophets, that Jesus sent FROM HEAVEN, telling us that Jesus is LORD GOD of the Holy Prophets!
He sees clearly. 1 Corinthians 13:12
You don't. 1 Corinthians 13 :12.
After seeing the vision given him, including Rev. 22:16 and Rev. 22:6-9,
God's Holy Prophet John calls Jesus God Almighty in Rev. 1:7,8.
That's 2 of God's Holy Prophets, and Jesus telling us Jesus is God.
Again, you are not an earthly Holy Prophet, nor one of God's Holy Prophets sent from heaven, nor are you Jesus!
As far as the Holy Spirit is concerned, for me the Holy Spirit is tough to nail down....mysterious.
I know that the Holy Spirit can be blasphemed which means the Holy Spirit is intelligent, not a force.
I also know that John is 'in the Spirit' throughout the Revelation, which means at the very least, John is given understanding through the Holy Spirit.
The Testimony of Jesus IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY. Rev. 19:10
After studying this vision for 30+ years I am not going to apologize for the fact that I know a whole lot more than you do, concerning what is going on there.
I am most likely the only human on the planet that can track the 'angel' through the vision.
I tried presenting that once on an online medium called Spectrum, and was instantly cajoled in an angry fashion and banned from the site.
With that being the response, I was satisfied that there was no valid response, just angry torch bearers looking forward to a barbeque.
Don't make the same mistake they did.
Listen and learn.
''Verily this Qur'an doth explain to the Children of Israel most of the matters in which they disagree ''
27vs76 An-Naml
Jesus himself prophesied that after the Apostles died there would be an apostasy (see Matthew 13: 24-30, 36-43). But he did not prophesy another prophet, nor does the Quran agree with the Bible. Rather in that prophecy he says when the apostasy would end, "in the conclusion of the system of things" or "the end of the age", also translated "the end of the world." Also, the one to separate the true Christians from the false will be "angels" not muslims (see Matthew 13: 41).
Islam is the False Prophet, which Christians were warned about at Galatians 1: 6-9. "Even if an angel out of heaven" or 'the Apostles themselves' were to 'teach something beyond what the Apostles taught', they were 'accursed by God.' Muslims do not even use the writings of the Apostles, which they pretend are corrupted even though Mohammed didn't know that when he was alive, and we have manuscripts that predate Mohammed that show our Bibles are the same as those. The truth is that the Quran 'teaches something beyond what the Apostles taught' and as such in incompatible. Mohammed was a false prophet.
@@marisakennedy777 shut up Missionary
@@raselkhandutta2203
JEWISH PRIESTS: We strictly ordered you to stop teaching
JESUS' APOSTLES: Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, judge for yourselves. But as for us, we cannot stop speaking about the things we have seen and heard.
(Acts of the Apostles 4:18-21; 5:27-32)
STOP FOLLOWING A FALSE PROPHET.
Mohammed died slowly and painfully over 2 years because of the poison he ate at Kaibar. He had murdered the family of a Jewish woman and she poisoned him. If he had been a true prophet, he would have known it was poisoned.
"Even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond the good news we declared to you, let him be accursed." (Galatians 1: 8)
Mohammed declared a message "beyond the good news" that the Apostles of Jesus preached. That is why he died an accursed death.
@@marisakennedy777 actually that verse were about paul. And following popes. I mean, look at trinity, christmas. It was not jesus teachings. Roman popes invented christmas to accomodate pagan rituals into christianity. They cherry picked everything to fit their pagan and cultural belief to the point christianism today is different to early christianism while jesus still alive.
@@sr969 I agree with you SR about the Popes and Catholic church, but i STRONGLY disagree about Paul. The Apostle Paul's writings do NOT support the trinity, nor do they support all the garbage the Catholic church has done.
And actually, Paul's writings provide some of the best evidence AGAINST the trinity.
I get accused of being muslim even though I am Christian. I believe that Jesus is the messiah but was not God.
Well, read the Quran. U will feel like home. All your questions regarding who God is will be answered in a logical way. The message always has. God is one and Islam only came to revive that.
John 8.58
Revelation 1:7-8
God swt is one ☝️!
Yes but he didn't send muhammad as a prophet
Empereur Justinien ok
@@empereurjustinien2082 Then why do you believe the previous prophets? Is there any proof?
@@empereurjustinien2082 God sent his messengers and prophets to every nation.
@@xxafthabxx9346 If you say that God somehow sent a messenger to each nation, why is there not a single Monotheist predating Christian missionaries and Spanish occupation in Latin America?
Salam, Shalom, Peace.
I advise myself first and foremost and everyone to follow the scriptures as they command us not to associate partners with God:
*Deuteronomy 6:4* - "Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one"
*Isaiah 46:9* - "For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me."
*Quran 112:1-4* -"Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge.
He neither begets nor is born,
Nor is there to Him any equivalent.""
. John 17:3 - And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent
Islam right
@@Aboodi001 If you're asking me whether or not I am Islamic, no I am not. I am christian
Yes brother!! ..
Jesus Christ is a Moshiach for jewish people
@@raselkhandutta2203 He is the messiah for everyone
@hfoerho God is Yawheh. But Jesus Christ is not God. Jesus died and was resurrected. How can he be God?
I’ve always believed this! Whenever I ask my friends why they believe in the Trinity when it’s not even in the bible, they don’t have an answer…
Allah is one god, jesus is a prophet.
The rapture isnt mentioned verbatim in the Bible; it doesn't mean that it's not in the Bible;
1 John 5:7
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
John 14:26 King James Version (KJV)
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Isaiah 11:2 King James Version (KJV)
2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;
John 10:30
“I and my Father are one.
Isaiah 43:10 Isaiah 44:6 King James Version (KJV)
6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Isaiah 45:21 (KJV)
21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the Lord? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
Simple illustration of the trinity right now at this exact moment Jesus is at the right hand of the Father at this exact moment; thats two we have the Holy Spirit with us right now thsts 3 - the trinity-
Another illustration of the trinity is when jhon baptized Jesus and the Holy spirit appears as a dove; the holy spirit then leads Jesus into the wilderness
@@terryjohanne6943 lol Allah is a false God brought forth from Satan;
Jesus was God in the flesh; can you give one miracle that Allah preformed?
1 Timothy 3:16(KJV)
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into
John 1:1-10 (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth
Luke 2:16-20
(KJV)
16 And they came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger.
17 And when they had seen it, they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning this child.
18 And all they that heard it wondered at those things which were told them by the shepherds.
19 But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.
20 And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them.
Philippians 2:8 (KJV)
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Philippians 2:8 (TLB)
8 And he humbled himself even further, going so far as actually to die a criminal’s death on a cross.[a]
@@terryjohanne6943 lol Allah is a false God brought forth from Satan;
Jesus was God in the flesh; can you give one miracle that Allah preformed?
1 Timothy 3:16(KJV)
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into
John 1:1-10 (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth
Luke 2:16-20
(KJV)
16 And they came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger.
17 And when they had seen it, they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning this child.
18 And all they that heard it wondered at those things which were told them by the shepherds.
19 But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.
20 And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them.
Philippians 2:8 (KJV)
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Philippians 2:8 (TLB)
8 And he humbled himself even further, going so far as actually to die a criminal’s death on a cross.[a]
@@rsar61 don’t bother you’ll never change someone’s faith through a TH-cam comment just keep it pushing and avoid the strife. These conflicts of religion can only be addressed in person.
There is only one true God Yahweh
Jesus taught the shema -that there is only One God. Mark 12:29 But Jesus never mentioned the name Yahweh. He said he came in his Father's name.
"I am come in my Father's name and ye receive me not. If another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive."
God is not Jesus father don’t be so stupid
Hebrews 3:1...... Jesus Christ,
2 faithful to Him Who created him, as Moses also was in all his house.
3 For he has been counted worthy of more eminence than Moses, since the one having constructed it has more honour than the house.
4 For every house is built by somebody, but
He Who built all things is God.
5 And Moses was indeed faithful in all his house as a servant, for a testimony of those things going to be spoken afterwards.
6 Christ, though, is faithful as a son over his house, whose house we are, if we hold fixed the firm confidence and the rejoicing of the hope until the end.
@@rod8989 amen
@@fuadmahmood4813 Don't be foolish. Repent and believe the gospel.
When Jesus was on earth his Father, Jehovah spoke from heaven saying "this is my son".....that distinguishes them both.Period.
Daisy Pawa Do you think when Moses spent 40 days w/ God on Mt Sinai that he would have come to "see" or "understand" the form of God, whether ONE or three in one?
Rather than "proving" the trinity, verse like that call into question the authority of the entire NT. I have come to see the NT like christian view the book of mormon. I believe the NT is a book written by man which was ADDED to the Scripture in order to move people away from the truth of the Tanakh.
Daisy Pawa So, it's not a trinity, it's twins?
Daisy Pawa The trinity defies comprehension to everyone but christians. (that is where it starts closing in on "cult status") Listen, you might DISAGREE with Judaism, but at least you understand it.
Christians are like John Forbes Nash Jr, the subject of the movie, "A Beautiful Mind". He crossed the line into delusion.
I left christianity, NOT because I did not believe it (that came later), I left because the answers stopped making sense.
We all know God is omnipresent - everywhere all the time. My friend says, "There is no SPOT where God is NOT!" I love it.
So imagine the universe as a box on the table.
God is represented by the color BLUE.
Looking into the box we see nothing but BLUE.
Jesus is RED.
What do we see looking into the box?
You CAN'T see RED and BLUE. Why?
Because if there is a "spot" that is RED, and not BLUE, then we violate the rule that "There is no SPOT where God is NOT!"
If Jesus is "fully God", he can't be separate from.... the other God - the Father.
Do we see purple? Again, we CAN'T (take a deep breath here....)
If we saw purple, it would mean we have TWO Gods, both omnipresent yet filling the same space with the same properties
If they have the same properties and fill the same space, then there is only one of them.
We only have ONE God. That is what monotheism MEANS.
Christianity INVENTED a second god and mixed stuff from the REAL God into a man and have been hopping from one foot to the other trying to make it make sense ever since
suz salter TWO different individuals
Robert Morley maybe you are looking for answers at the wrong places. I am a Christain, i have studied the bible and everything makes sense to me..there is no mystery about it.the Bible is Gods letter to man. everything is clear cut. God has been transparent about his dealings ever since. we just need to find the answers at the right places.
Who is Jesus in the bible?
“I can do NOTHING on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the Will Of Him who sent me. (John 5;30)
13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his SERVANT Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go.(Book of Acts 3; 13).
Qur'aan Chapter 19 Surah Maryam;
30. Esa/Jesus said, “I am the SERVANT of God. He has given me the Scripture, and made me a prophet.
31. And has made me blessed wherever I may be; and has enjoined on me prayer and charity, so long as I live.
32. And kind to my mother, and He did not make me a disobedient rebel.
33. So Peace is upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the Day I get resurrected alive.”
34. That is Esa son of Maryam-the Word of truth about which they doubt.
35. It is not for Allah to have a child-glory be to Him. To have anything done, He says to it, “Be,” and it becomes.
36. Esa said; "Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”
37. But the various factions differed among themselves. So woe to those who disbelieve from the scene of a tremendous Day.
Surah Al-Kahf, Verse 102:
أَفَحَسِبَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَن يَتَّخِذُوا عِبَادِي مِن دُونِي أَوْلِيَاءَ إِنَّا أَعْتَدْنَا جَهَنَّمَ لِلْكَافِرِينَ نُزُلًا
What! do then those who disbelieve think that they can take My servants to be guardians besides Me? Surely We have prepared hell for the entertainment of the unbelievers.
via iQuran
So, in Koran Jesus said that he
Will die and will be resurrected
But.. Koran says he did not died
So.. What he was talking about???
@@mariamiyu8025
Quraan says jesus did not get killed, instead he was rather raised up. (See Q4;157-159). Therefore death of jesus mentioned in Q19;33 & Q4;159 cannot be the crucifixion! Prophet Muhammed has explained in Hadith that jesus will die in 2nd coming, after his golden rule of peace on earth. Then he will be resurrected on the day of judgement along with the other prophets and everyone else, to stand for accountability in front of the 1 and only Mighty Creator, Muslims call Allah, Christians and Jews call YHWH or Elohim.
Abu Huraira reported:
The Prophet Muhammed, peace and blessings be upon him, said;
“Blessed is he who lives after the coming of the Messiah Esa (jesus). Blessed is he who lives after the coming of the Messiah. It will be announced for the heavens in the land, and it will be announced for the earth in the crops. If you were to sow your seed upon the rock, it would surely grow. You will not have greed for each other, nor will you envy each other, nor will you hate each other, until a man will pass by a lion and he will not harm him and he will walk over a snake and it will not harm him. You will not have greed for each other, nor will you envy each other, nor will you hate each other.”
Source: Ḥadīth Abī Bakr al-Anbārī 47
Hadith Ahmad (9349) narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“I am the closest of people to ‘Esa son of Maryam because there was no Prophet between him and me…” Then he mentioned his descent at the end of time. Then he said: “And Esa will remain for as long as Allaah wills he should remain, then he will die and the Muslims will offer the funeral prayer for him and bury him.” Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah (2182).
Hadith Al-Bukhaari (3435) and Muslim (28) narrated from ‘Ubaadah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever bears witness that there is no god but Allaah alone, with no partner or associate, and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger, and that ‘Esa is His slave and Messenger, a word which Allaah bestowed upon Maryam and a spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is real, and Hell is real, Allaah will admit him through whichever of the gates of Paradise he wishes.”
We ask Allaah to make us steadfast in faith and to cause us to die as believers.
Jesus is the SON OF GOD. not just a prophet..
@@JAHistheONE bible disagrees "'Sir,' the woman said, 'I can see that you are a prophet'" (John 4:19
@@kingofnone4671 read the rest of the Bible and you’ll find out that He is GOD made flesh.. not just a prophet.
If the word trinity is so important why is it never used in the bible 😮
It's a great question, and I think the answer is quite obvious
That said, and to be fair, it is not the word that calls for attention on such cases, but rather, the implications that come from the terms(or word) - that is to say, that people should conform to a god and doctrine that is nowhere practised, taught or preached by anyone, in all of Bible history - which would include, though not limited-to the son of GOD himself.
Because it was unbiblical. If you accept Triune God it's Equalivient that Triune God is Israelites God in Old Testament which very unlikely if we read Bible carefully rather listen to Church's Leader.
The trinity its a romain creed or doctrine ,he has no relationship or conectio with abraham and his descendants theology wich the pure monotheism
The trinity is a Roman creed, but Jesus Christ is God's only begotten son. That is were Islam is in error.
@@EmJay2022 @Em Jay begotten realy , that mean the father is the first the alpha, not jesus the alpha and the first because it happen that father begot him in certain period.
And in the bible evry one can be begotten and born from god
“Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.” (1John 4:7 NASB)
@@islammyreligionmonotheismm1346 Yes really, he is the ONLY begotten of God. His birth is a direct result of God's will. Yours is NOT and neither is any prophet's birth directly from the will of God, only Jesus. You quote 1 John 4:7 out of context because you are ignorant to the bible. The bible speaks of two births the natural and the spiritual. John speaks to the spiritual rebirth not the natural. Also you do not understand the analogy of the alpha and omega and what that actually means. It has nothing to do with order.
@@EmJay2022 so your god father is women give natural birth , wow!
Before he give this birth, forgive me to say that He had an animal sex operation like human, so he can give birth of his son, so weird.
That's proof Christianty came from the old tradition of greek and roman, god can make love to a human woman and give birth to a godly human with two nature human and god.
Jesus christ is only a man send by god no more, and when god speak about his children, is only metaphorical.
Jesus christ when time came fir his ascended to the sky, he give the clear message of how to gain the eternal life in his testimony, wich is in john 17-3 when said, thus the eternal life that they may know you the onky true God (referring the father) and jesus christ whom you send.
Clear acknowledge to succeed in the after life the eternal life
@@islammyreligionmonotheismm1346 Where does it say in the bible God had "sex" with a women? This is such an ignorant and shameful interpretation of Christianity made only to provoke. So by your foolish logic, God also had sex with the earth when Adam was created...right? If God had given many animals the ability to reproduce asexually, or without sex, then why do you find it so hard to believe that He did this with a women?
You are right, Jesus is a man. But you are wrong if you think you are anything like him. It is not about him having dual natures, it's about him having a perfect nature. You and I are sinners. We have a fallen human nature, Jesus Christ was sinless. He never sinned against God. He has a perfect human nature. This is only possible when you are close to God in relationship and only God's true son can have that. We are not born God's sons. We are born as enemies to God because we sin. Jesus died so that His spirit can be given to us so we too can have the same real relationship to God that he had and be made into true son's and daughters.
The only way to get into heaven is to believe this and believe in your heart that Jesus is the unique child of God and that he sacrificed his life so we can be reconciled to God.
This is too heavy for Christians blind followers.
That is a great way to say it. I agree with you
What is too heavy?
@@canderssonswedican7486 Ert matematiska fel som påstår sig ''vara Gud'' som ska bränna allihopa i ett evigt helvete om man inte tror på att 1+1+1=1, till och med dem som aldrig har hört om Kristendom innan skall också brinna enligt din ''gud'' som är full av visdom!
@@misteranonymous5784
Necesito que me espliques que es mas pesado, un bote de frigoles o' el concepto de Dios y quien es Dios, estoy sequro que no sabes cual es el concepto de ninquno de los dos.
Dime, es Jesus "Dios?"
It is better to stay in the English vernacular as it is a more descriptive language, you statement is a little vague are you telling or asking me if it is fair that God is condeming
those who do not believe is his tri-une nature to eternal separation from him?
@@canderssonswedican7486 I don't speak Spanish, I thought that you spoke Swedish because your name is Candersson (a Swedish name) and then after that Swedican and I am from Sweden.
*Trinity logic* :
*1+1+1 = 1*
Makes sense ?
+Rg Drake //Trinity logic :
1+1+1 = 1
Makes sense ?// It's obvious, you can't make an argument from scripture, to refute it, so you resort to silly little comments. Typical of your type.
Haukman66 Sorry but Trinity is not a Original Christian doctrine or from original teachings of Jesus. Rather emerging from Corrupted Churches as well as evil political PAGAN leaders like Constantine influencing them.
+Rg Drake 1x1x1=1...does this makes more sense?
+Mahesa Pardede so what is your answer to the mathematical equation 1x1x1=??? you got any new answer???
+Mahesa Pardede //ISLAM might seems violent & lustful,
but CHRISTIANITY is the delusional one for believing this concept// Whoa, such a brilliant thought. You must be right.
it seems that THE WORD is the actual name of what Jesus was as Christ. That which was in the thought and mind of the father became flesh and spoke to us about who the father is.
And God is a spirit, and thus because a spirit cannot become less of itself or something other than itself, especially the Spirit that is God, the Word, which is the Creator, has to also be God.
@@xavierthomas5835 I think you are right.
@@SmokingAlien3 Well thank you, but to God be the glory. I simply am a recipient of his knowledge and of his love and grace.
Thank you for having the guts to bring this out. For
many years I have pondered and searched this out. I. finally just had to accept that Scripture just doesn't teach this. However I don't go around sharing this with just anyone because most people don't have a deep enough knowledge of Bible truth.
🥰
ever since i was little my mother told me that there is one god. i can't remember that she told anything about the holy trinity and that that is god. when i grew up i was very confused because people said that they were christian but they worshipped jezus christ. my mother told me multiple times that jezus isn't god because it doesn't make any sense if you read the bible. when i was younger i read kid friendly versions of the bible and it didn't say it either. today i tried to read as many books in the bible that ''said'' that jezus and the holy spirit is god but i couldn't find it. what my mother also told that many people didn't read the bible and only follow what other people say, so i hope that jehova lead people to the right path and open their eyes to the truth.
John 1:18. John 8:58. John 10:31-38. John 14;6-7. John 20:27-29. Philippians 2:5-8. Titus 2:13
Goodnight. Read your bible. I mean the entire book of John was written to explain Jesus was God. It’s scary how many of you fall for this blasphemy. You might as well be Muslims because you obviously aren’t Christian’s.
Many people had the guts
With respect sir, it sounds to me like you're trying to understand an infinite God with a finite mind. one of the things authentic systematic theology teaches us, is that man cannot fully understand God on this side of eternity. And why should we expect to, since God ought to be our fixed point of reference due to the fact that our judgements have misled all of us (Jeremiah 17:9)? If I was capable of understanding everything there is to know about God, then God wouldn't be able to meet my deepest needs! Why? because, I would be capable of knowing my deepest needs and wouldn't need an authoritative, fixed point of reference to test my judgements with to confirm to me that my judgements are based on truth and not merely my opinion. But what if I conclude that, because I have the Bible, I can fully understand God, and therefore, don't need to ever feel like I have to conclude from time to time, that I just won't understand some things about God on this side of heaven? Well, seeing as you have concluded and have also insisted that no-one learns about the trinity strictly by reading the Bible, where do you think something as controversial and confusing like the trinity came from? Theologians read the Bible, and came up with the name "Trinity". Does it make sense? No! you know what else doesn't make sense to me? why God loves me! But He does, and I believe He does because, I believe the Bible is the Word of God, and it says He does! I don't understand it, but accept it by faith! Obviously, the Bible describes the Father as God! But what about the Son and Holy Spirit? John and Paul make it abundantly clear that all things that have been made were made through Jesus Christ (John 1:1-3; Colossians 1:16-17). So, if Jesus isn't God, then He is a created being. But I take what the apostle John says by faith when He says that "All things were made by Him, and apart from Him, nothing was made that has been made". People ask me to explain the trinity, and I tell them that a triangle is a singular shape, made up of three sides. If one side moves, then the entire thing (singular) moves. Because all three are God, not one does a single thing without the other! When I sing to and honor with my lips one member of the Godhead (trinity) I am giving just as much honor to the other two as I am whichever member of the trinity I am acknowledging God at that moment. Now, I believe and do acknowledge all three members, but during my personal, private devotional time, I don't stress, or even try to focus on one member of the trinity, because there is only one God! therefore, I bask and bathe and rest in the everlasting love of the God I worship! Do I understand it? Nope! again, just like I don't understand why God loves me enough to send His only begotten Son to earth with a body able to be broken and die, to die for me to provide me with the opportunity to spend eternity with Him! I believe the Holy Spirit is God, because in Acts chapter 5, Peter declares to Anninias that he had lied to the Holy Spirit, and after a few more words, declares that he hadn't lied to man but to God! At the end of the book of Acts, Paul declared that the Holy Spirit spoke through the mouth of Isaiah, and quoted from Isaiah chapter 6. In Isaiah chapter 6, it says that the Lord spoke to Isaiah and told him to say what is quoted in that section.
I say this with love and prayers.
Amen!
I was looking for this comment! As I try to learn more about the Trinity, I realized, our finite minds cannot comprehend the infinite wisdom of God.
Another question that I asked a Unitarian that he cannot answer: If the Holy Spirit is not God, what is He then?
The problem with the definition of trinity is that they say
They are coexistent
Co substantial and co equal and all are God in three persons.
NO verse for that
ONE GOD FATHER OF US ALL
MESSIAH SON OF GOD AND SON OF MAN
AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD WHO PROCEEDS FROM GOD
"is a mystery that you cannot understand ... you just have to believe it" - this is a silly statement since no one generally claims this.
How do you explain the point that God has no beginning? There is no human experience to compare that with; therefore, it's also a mystery.
Incorrect. The correct way to state it would be "It is a mystery that cannot be JUSTIFIED ... you just have to believe it". There being One True God can be justified through scripture, a tri-un God head on the hand, cannot be justified.
And Jesus answered him, “It is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.’” - Luke 4:8
These are Christians that see the lie of the Trinity. ❤🙏 mashallah!
John 1:18. John 8:58. John 10:31-38. John 14;6-7. John 20:27-29. Philippians 2:5-8. Titus 2:13
Read your bibles. I mean the entire book of John was written to explain Jesus was God. It’s scary how many of you fall for this blasphemy in the video. You might as well be Muslims because you obviously aren’t Christian’s.
Christians believe in ONE GOD, just as Christ Jesus quoted the SHEMA. The problem with Islam is that it fails to provide an understanding of the Trinity Doctrine because Muhammad didn't understand the revelation of Christ Jesus.
In fact, Muhammad gets the Trinity Doctrine wrong in the Quran, so that is all the proof a Christian needs to expose Muhammad as a FALSE prophet.
Islam doesn't give a reason for Christ Jesus' purpose of being divinely born upon this earth.
What was the Gospel of Jesus? Muslims don't know because Muhammad the FALSE PROPHET failed to comprehend the message. It is not surprising to me you don't know the purpose of the Gospel of the Messiah (Christ Jesus)? You won't find it in the Quran.....
The "perfectly preserved" Quran tells you in Arabic who Christ Jesus is if you have eyes to see.
Sahih International
Surah 9:31 They have taken their scholars and monks as lords 𝐛𝐞𝐬𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐬 𝐀𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐡 , 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐌𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐚𝐡, 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐲. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.
So, as written in Arabic, the LORD is Allah (The GOD) AND the Messiah (Christ Jesus). Scholars have to add bracketed text in order to clean up the error as written in Arabic. That verse proves that the Quran is NOT perfectly preserved as Islam claims. The LORD is "Allah" and the Messiah (Christ Jesus) just as it is written in our Bible.
The Quran AFFIRMS the scripture that came before the Quran. So, if Muhammad taught anything different than what GOD revealed to the prophets before the Quran (and he did), then that exposes Muhammad as a false prophet because GOD cannot contradict HIMSELF.
You as a mere mortal don't have the wisdom and knowledge to DEFINE who GOD is to your own satisfaction. Christ Jesus came into the world in the flesh and revealed the ONE TRUE GOD to all of humanity. The Trinity Doctrine is not an invention of men, it is the revelation received from Christ Jesus. The Triune Nature of the ONE TRUE GOD is found not only in the New testament scripture, but the Old Testament scripture as well.
This is what scripture reveals:
1. The Father is God.
2. The Son is God.
3. The Spirit is God.
4. The Father is not the Son or the Spirit.
5. The Son is not the Father or the Spirit.
6. The Spirit is not the Father or the Son.
7. There is only one God.
The revelation is what it is, you don't get to define WHO AND WHAT GOD is.....GOD reveals HIMSELF in this way; so, if you take the time to learn, then you will discover 𝑊𝐻𝑌 Christ Jesus came upon the earth in the remarkable way that HE DID. The PERFECTION of GOD's LOVE for us was revealed THROUGH CHRIST JESUS.
Peace Be With You
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time
The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits
So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply
Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )
Yeah but.. John 10:30 hahaha they. They have been taught to ignore these scriptures that clearly refute that the trinity is false. Another one I have been using is:
Ephesians 1:17-22
New Life Version
17 I pray that the great God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ may give you the wisdom of His Spirit. Then you will be able to understand the secrets about Him as you know Him better. 18 I pray that your hearts will be able to understand. I pray that you will know about the hope given by God’s call. I pray that you will see how great the things are that He has promised to those who belong to Him. 19 I pray that you will know how great His power is for those who have put their trust in Him.
20 It is the same power that raised Christ from the dead. This same power put Christ at God’s right side in heaven. 21 This place was given to Christ. It is much greater than any king or leader can have. No one else can have this place of honor and power. No one in this world or in the world to come can have such honor and power. 22 God has put all things under Christ’s power and has made Him to be the head leader over all things of the church.
@@theguyver4934 yeah no.
"Father into your hands I commend my spirit.". ..who is the 'Father' here?
@@gustavmahler1466 is Jesus son and the father at the same time?
@@gustavmahler1466 omg! You are so blind
@@gustavmahler1466 that's just the adjective. How many times in the Bible did Jesus call God "my father"
@@gustavmahler1466 yes He is God the son but not the Father.
Jesus said I am. Read Exodus 3.
"They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the third of three." And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment." (Qur'an 5:73)
Satan started Islam. Mohammed was a rapist, child molester, pedophile, criminal.
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Satan started Islam. Mohammed was a rapist, child molester, pedophile, criminal.
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Satan started Islam. Mohammed was a rapist, child molester, pedophile, criminal.
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Satan started Islam. Mohammed was a rapist, child molester, pedophile, criminal.
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Satan started Islam. Mohammed was a rapist, child molester, pedophile, criminal.
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Its hard to fellowship with Trinitarians because they typically become so defensive once they know I am not a Trinitarian. But nearly 100% of the time I ask them to teach me the Trinity they never can.
Understanding the kingdom of God belongs not to all who say they believe in God, even Jesus who teach the path to kingdom of God have to speak in parables so that whoever hears would still not understand, whoever seeing yet still they could not see, even the Jews have been blinded of the truth and have rejected the Son of God, but it is clearly stated that salvation will come from the Jews and now its all over the gentile. For you to be certain that you are save, you should have the true understanding of the Bible and could be able to see with no contradiction whatsoever. I can teach you the trinity of God but that would deprived you of you're urged to search the truth of God, But I could guarantee you that the answer are all in the Bible, the Jews have seen it and have accepted it but ended up in making it a heresy due to Christ followers who become the Christians, its not invented by Christians but it is already imbedded in the Jewish theology. The Old Testament is a complete testimony of God but somehow something are not revealed not until the Revelation of Jesus in the New Testament, If you are a Unitarian then you are like the Jews who are clinging on what the Old testament only revealed and ignoring what Jesus have revealed. Teaser hint: When Moses saw the burning bush, how many presence or being are there in the burning bush? read the text carefully
Rita: What questions do you seek answers to? I do not know about those with whom you have spoken, I can tell you that while I am not defensive about the doctrine of the Trinity, because I believe quite firmly that denying the Trinity means one is not a Christian and is not saved, it causes me great consternation when one rejects it. (btw - my own brother denies the Trinity which means I have had many years of discussing this whole issue.) There is one thing that must be kept in mind: Does the doctrine of the Trinity make human sense? NO! Not at all. To my rational mind it is ludicrous. So what! I'm not God. Since when is something true only when it makes rational sense to me. The real question is does the Bible teach that God is three, separate persons while at the same time there is only ONE God? The answer is yes. That's the real issue. Not whether it makes rational sense or whether the word Trinity is used in the Bible. Just like those who belong to Oneness Pentecostal churches who hold to the "oneness" doctrine cannot find the word "oneness" anywhere in the Bible but that does not stop them from trying to teach it. So too, the fact that the word Trinity is not found in the Bible is of no import. What matters is whether the foundation is there and that that is who God is. I have spoken at length with members of the UPCI, Mormon, and Watchtower over this issue and have found in each case that they simply gloss over the origins of their false teaching that it came, not from careful exegetical work in the Word, but from a supposed "revelation" or internal work of the "spirit" and then made the Bible fit their new-found beliefs.
you met the wrong ones who have never read the Bible.
Rick Pettey Careful, brother. The bible o\is painstakingly clear as to what we must believe to have salvation. The new testament speaks of our belief in Jesus as the propitiation of our sins as necessary for salvation ALL over the place. Every writer says it in multiple ways, using different wording so that you can't botch this essential doctrine. If you are unable to find a single Scripture that says we must believe Jesus is God to be saved, or have to gather it in your own understanding, then you must be willing to walk away from that belief. I am a Christian. I hold to The Bible as ultimate authority and believe that Jesus was the Christ and died so that I might be reconciled to God. To say that we must have a perfect understanding of who God is in order to be saved is a belief that your own views cannot afford. God does not demand that kind of intelligence or scholarship.
Spencer Wentworth Sorry, but you assume facts not in evidence. I no where said that one must achieve a level of intellectual understanding or scholarship to be saved. Christ Himself dismisses such a notion (Matt. 11:25-30). However, it is only because of false teachings that have been substituted for the truth that a more thorough and detailed explanation of the Christian faith is necessitated. Such was the reason for the writings of the 3 ecumenical creeds (Apostles' , Nicene, and Athanasian). The biblical truth that God is one and yet at the same time three, distinct persons cannot be comprehended by our reason but it IS the clear and unequivocal teaching of God's Word. It is only due to false teaching such as you spread following the false teachers of the early church (i.e., Montanus, Arius, Paul of Somosata, Praxeas, Noetus, Pelagius, etc.).
It is easy to confess the teaching of the Bible, that the Triune God was so concerned about our salvation that the second Person of the Trinity, God the Son, became man to bear the sins of the world. Though I cannot fully comprehend the truth of that statement, the veracity of it is beyond question. It is only when people such as yourself, depending upon sin-stained reason, attempt to deny such truth relying solely upon fallen reason that a response is demanded.
Though it brings me no joy and is not spoken in anger or any other human sentiment, I must publicly confess that the "god" whom you proclaim is NOT the saving God of Holy Scripture: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. You seem to be quite sincere. Sincerity, however, counts for nothing. No matter how sweetly you speak about Jesus (as did the heretics of the early church, likewise in much sincerity) that "god" whom you are espousing is NOT the one, true God of the Bible and therefore your message is NOT Christian. Soli Deo Gloria.
AD325 @Nicea -
“The Greek philosophically minded Alexandrian theologian led by Athanasius, won the day. Those more under the earlier influence of Jewish Monotheism (of GOD) were defeated. Dissenters who refused to sign the agreement were immediately banished. The Church was now taken over and dictated by the theologians strongly influenced by the Greek mind ... ‘When the Greek mind and the Roman mind, instead of the Hebrew mind, came to dominate the Church, there occurred a disaster from which the Church has never recovered, either in doctrine or practice.’”
[“The Doctrine of Trinity” pp. 151-152 by Anthony F. Buzzard & Charles F. Hunting].
Your definition of The Presevation of Gods word is very narrow and lacking knowledge. The world is huge and there is much that you dont know.
Bible says God will preserve His word forever.
The doom and gloom outlook on How Gods word has been perverted is foolish.
@@wdbible129 Actually it is not. God has preserved THE religion of tawhid ( monotheism) via the last and final of his messengers destined with a message to the whole world : islam
@@ahmedbassam400 All Nations Were aware of Gods Word in The Books Of Moses, The Psalms, And The Prophets. I made a video on this to prove that through scripture
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This is, of course, pseudo history
Can someone explain this: Then God said, “Let us make mankind in OUR image, in OUR likeness"
Um God and Jesus made us! Duh😂😂😂
He was talking to the heavenly host...
That's the Royal we.
Just saw your question. Love to. The Bible inspired by God interprets itself, so we need to let it answer - 2 Pet 1:20-21
Rev 3:14 - Gods son Jesus was the beginning of Gods creation so he had a prehuman existence.
Col 1:15-17 - After his creation (beginning) he worked with his father to create the other angels, universe including earth.
Prov 8:22-30 - He was Gods master worker who had a beginning as Gods earliest achievements.
Gen 1:28 - Jesus was with his father when they made humans on earth so God was talking to his son when he said "Let us make man in our image"
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Have a nice day 😊
Simple. You have to read the next verse. Genesis 1:27 (NKJV) 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Notice the He, Him, and His.
Jews and Muslims believe God is one. Jesus would denounce any Christians claiming the trinity.
@Son Of Israel precisely my point brother. The trinity was formed 300 years after Jesus. A lot of African, Middle Eastern, Eastern European Christians believe in One God.
Trinitarians also believe in one God, they aren't Mormon
Watched 3 times and have a better understanding of God and Jesus than I ever had. I like that you used the scriptures.
You're believing a false teaching; the author of this video clearly has no understanding from the Holy spirit;
The rapture isnt mentioned verbatim in the Bible; it doesn't mean that it's not in the Bible;
1 John 5:7
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
John 14:26 King James Version (KJV)
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Isaiah 11:2 King James Version (KJV)
2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;
John 10:30
“I and my Father are one.
Isaiah 43:10 Isaiah 44:6 King James Version (KJV)
6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Isaiah 45:21 (KJV)
21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the Lord? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
Simple illustration of the trinity right now at this exact moment Jesus is at the right hand of the Father at this exact moment; thats two we have the Holy Spirit with us right now thsts 3 - the trinity-
Another illustration of the trinity is when jhon baptized Jesus and the Holy spirit appears as a dove; the holy spirit then leads Jesus into the wilderness
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What's your evidence that John 5:7 is made up?
All power and authority was given to Jesus. How can you be God if anything is given to you. Shouldn't you already have it?
A father can't give his son a gift?
Jesus was fully man, and fully God. After He won the victory, by having the flesh die for sin, He ascended into Heaven where He is the One True God, and all authority is given unto Him. If there is a trinity, then that leaves the other two powerless.
How does Jesus take away our sins if he is not God. Also, i would love to hear your thoughts on Hebrews 1 and Genesis 1. Thank you for sharing!
Heb. 1:8 in the King James Version (AV or KJV) is rendered:
“But unto the son he saith, thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.”
Since “he saith” and the second “is” (found after “righteousness”) in the above verse are not actually found in the original manuscripts and have been added by the KJV translators, they are found in italics in most printings of the KJV.
But more importantly (as a quick glance into any interlinear Greek-English New Testament will show) the first “is” (found after “God”) in the above verse is also not in the original manuscripts but has been added by some modern translators.
Yes, literally the original NT Greek manuscripts read: “Toward but the son the throne of you the god into the age of the age.
No one should deny that the title theos (NT Greek word meaning “God,” “god,” “mighty one,” “divine,” etc.) can be applied to Jesus (at least in the writings of John - see the DEF and BOWGOD studies), just as it was applied in the scriptures to angels, judges of Israel, Moses, and (according to some trinitarian authorities) even the kings of Israel.
But theos is never applied to Jesus with the most high sense that is given only to the Almighty, Most High, only true God. So it could, perhaps, have been used at Heb. 1:8 in its positive secondary sense: “Your throne, o mighty one [theos], is ...”. This seems even more probable when we remember that Paul is really quoting from Ps. 45:6.
Psalm 45 is celebrating an Israelite king’s marriage, and the psalmist applies the words of Ps. 45:6, 7 literally to an ancient Israelite king. In fact, the trinitarian New American Standard Bible (NASB), Reference Edition, explains in a footnote for Ps. 45:1, “Probably refers to Solomon as a type of Christ.”
So, according to this trinitarian Bible, the words of Ps. 45:6, although figuratively referring to Jesus, were literally applied to an ancient Israelite king (probably King Solomon, it says).
So if Ps. 45:6 is properly translated, “your throne, O God ...” then that ancient Israelite King (Solomon?) was also literally called “O God” (or “O god”?). In fact, the highly trinitarian New American Bible, St. Joseph Edition, 1970, explains in a footnote for this verse:
“The Hebrew king was called ... ‘God,’ not in the polytheistic sense common among the ancient
pagans, but as meaning ‘godlike’ or ‘taking the place of God’.”
The trinitarian Easy-to-read-Version also says in a footnote for this passage:
“God .... here the writer might be using the word ‘God’ as a title for the king.” (Cf. NIV Study Bible f.n. for Pss. 45:6 and 82:1, 6.)
And the revised 1991 ed. of the NAB actually translates Ps. 45:6, 7 as “Your throne, O god.”)
The NAB (St. Joseph ed.,1970) goes on to explain, however, that others have translated this verse as, “Your throne is the throne of God” and refers us to 1 Chron. 29:23 “where Solomon’s throne is referred to as the throne of the LORD [YHWH].”
Now we’re getting closer to the most likely intention of Heb. 1:8. There is good evidence that the proper translation of Heb. 1:8 (as well as Ps. 45:6) should be “your throne is God forever” or “God is your throne forever.”
In genesis 1 Jehovah was talking to his firstborn son . Jesus was a masterworker. But Jehovah used him to create
Bible says everything was created through jesus
When I say to my friend let us build a house. Its 2 people that's gonna build
No one would assume its 1 person
John 5 vs 36 But I have a greater witness than John’s; for the works which the Father has given Me to finish-the very works that I do-bear witness of Me, that the Father has sent Me. 37 And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
@@AstariahJW The Messiah is called YHWH/LORD several times throughout the Old Testament. For example Jeremiah 33:15-16
@@tuckerchisholm1005 so angels that represent Jehovah spoke as if they were Jehovah but that doesnt mean they were literally Jehovah God
Jeremiah speaks about Jehovah God in that verse u quoted
“My Father and your Father My God and your God” A risen Jesus calls His Father His God there is no debate about this. Trinity was created by man at the council of Nicaea it has nothing to do with the Bible, if Trinity was true Jesus would have been the first to explain it how 3in 1 works
Exactly. Jesus the son of God said hes the truth so he would have explain it but he did not
Alhamdulillah for Tawheed, pure monotheistic belief ☝️
Tahwid believes the quran is separate from Allah and also eternal. That makes something eternal other than Allah.
Quran is the word of Allah & it is a guideline for humanity. And Quran is still in it’s original form because Allah himself protect it from corruption. Quran has no power of it’s own.
@@mdimrankabir8690 The Quran is fasle, dear.
@@eve3363 LOL.
@@eve3363 Elaborate please, let’s debate this in a peaceful manner.
Very great points made here. Some cite 1 John 5:7 as the description of the trinity. Anyone who’s study New Testament studies will know that this verse was not found in any of the original Greek texts, rather it was added in at a later date to fit the trinity concept. Almost every Christian scholar knows this.
If the trinity was true, this would make sense:
God sent Himself to earth and God humbled God while on earth. God was still Divine, but God did not know the hour of the judgement (Mark 13:32). God also cursed a fig tree because even though God Created all things including the fig tree, for some reason God didn’t know that it wasn’t the season for figs, so God curses His own creation, which was the fig tree (Mark 11:14). God then prayed to Himself asking... Himself to let the fate of crucifixion pass (Mathew 26:39) from Him. God then was affixed on the cross and God cried out... to Himself "why have I forsaken myself?" (Mathew 27:46) and then God sacrificed Himself... to Himself (no one is on bargaining terms with God) and God died for the sins of mankind. God changed his ways of holding people accountable for their sins, despite how He said "I am Jehovah; I do not change.” (Malachi 3:6) and how the Bible says that God “does not vary or change like the shifting shadows.” (James 1:17)... instead of simply forgiving mankind when they repent (like He did since he beginning of mankind on earth, all throughout the Old Testament).
the theology og trinity does not hang on that one verse
Guy no original language remains only copied text that we have today, if you qurstion 1John 5:7 That is your problem coz even the whole original text from OT and NT are all obliterated not just 1John 5:7. Now if you want to attack that verse you are lost. Go to Codexes at Alexandrean text Such as Codex Sinaiticus, Codex Vaticanus, and Codex Alexandrinus those are copied materials from the original writings and none of the original writings had survived from antiquity with the exception of dead scroll which recently found at Qumran cave in 1947 by a shephered boy, though that is ancient but again copied text by the scribes of that time.
No wrong answer, but I am curious: your comment could be interpreted in such a way that I might come to the conclusion that you don’t believe in the NT or Jesus in general. That OT God and following His statutes are enough to save someone in the end (like David or Moses).
Again, no wrong answer, but am I reading you right?
No need to lie about the verse , the Trinity is from hell and that verse doesn't help them , so don't be afraid and find a way to cover it up , it supports the truth , not the Trinity , God's word is perfect , if you don't believe this ...what is your entire soul in the hands of? The king James is the perfect word of God , and the only word of God , and that verse is there not by man's will , by God's , so don't worry when they use it , these three ARE one makes perfect sense and that's why it doesn't say these three and IN one , big difference
Matthew 28 19 was Changed by the RCC in second century it was originally written go and make disciples of all nations in my Name. Oneness the name of Jesus is highly exalted above every name all power has been given to me go and make disciples of all nations in my Name
John 8:58 "Before Abraham was, I am" (jesus to the pharisees who then, enraged, said "Thou makest thyself to be God"), and John 17, Jesus prayed to someone else greater than himself, not to himself, for his earthly disciples that they (his disciples) may be one even as he and his Father are one.
Conclusion: Jesus and the Father are one, in committed purpose, but separate individuals.
It’s called the God head Jesus is God in the flesh God came into his own creation he’s unique hence the term the only beggoten of the father God is so spirit the spirit is what came into the man Christ he’s was 100 percent man and 100 percent God can’t question Gods power.
Paul Wise
1 John 5:20 King James Version (KJV)
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Old Testament
Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Isa 43:12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.
Isa 43:13 Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it?
Isa 43:14 Thus saith the LORD, your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; For your sake I have sent to Babylon, and have brought down all their nobles, and the Chaldeans, whose cry is in the ships.
Isa 43:15 I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.
New Testament
Joh 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Joh 8:25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
Joh 8:26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
Joh 8:27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
Joh 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
Joh 8:29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
Joh 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.
One saviour one God “I am he”
Clear as day
John 1 King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 20:28-29 King James Version (KJV)
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Paul Wise 🤦♂️ yes God is a spirit the spirit dwelt in the man Christ the flesh isn’t God but the spirit in the flesh was God I can help you understand this your flesh soul spirit but yet you are one!!! Created in the image of God. Yes Jesus is God that’s the name that saves so yes I do know and understand that the flesh wasnt God but the spirit that dwelt in the flesh was God!! Here are some verses for you sir that declares Jesus being God in the flesh.
1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Old Testament “I am he”
Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Isa 43:12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.
Isa 43:13 Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it?
New Testament “I am he”
Joh 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Joh 8:25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
One saviour and “I am he”
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
So yes!!! Jesus is the word there is only one God.
1 John 5:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Paul Wise and also you are correct God did raise him on the third day haha Jesus did!!!!
Joh 2:18 Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?
Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Joh 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Joh 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
Joh 2:22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
Why did Jesus say he was going to raise himself?🤔
Paul Wise are you the only begotten son of God?
The believers are called the sons of God but Jesus is called the only
Begotten son of God becuase jesus is God in the flesh Jesus is unique becuase jesus came into his own creation and they recieved him not. Jesus is called the begotten son of God becuase it didn’t take sexual actions from a female and a man it was done by God coming into his creation He came into the womb of a women is this not hard to undertand? Jesus is God in his creation in the flesh the flesh is not God Jesus was a 100 percent man and 100 percent God, God wasng the flesh the man Christ the flesh wasn’t God. The Holy sprit God was in the flesh some people say the have the Holy Spirit in them that’s true but are they God? It’s very simple to understand once you are a believer.
Thomas called Jesus God and Jesus said Thomas becuase Thou has seen and believe bless are those who haven’t seen but yet believed Jesus never told him not to Call him God and we both know there is one God one saviour. The spirit is God not the flesh but Jesus was in the flesh. Jesus is God in the flesh
Anytime you say we should read in a doctrine into Gods Word is very dangerous, the Bible clearly defines who He is, woe to all who lead people astray, especially with man’s doctrine
In the baptism of Jesus the holy spirit came down as a dove, and the father said this is my son who I love and am well pleased, all three were there.
First of all, Jesus was born through the Holy Spirit. The Bible says that Mary conceived by the HS, the HS is literally Jesus' Father. Second of all, the HS came down as a dove not that the dove was the HS another thing God is One and He can be on earth or in the sky all at the same time doesn't mean He is 3 "persons"
@@viviennebaptiste where does it say god is everywhere in the bible,I can see his deeds are everywhere.And just because you are filled with the Holy Spirit doesn't mean the Holy Spirit doesn't have a soul of his own.
@@viviennebaptiste The bible says the father is in the 3rd heaven,the holy spirit is on the earth,2 different places so they can't be the same.Jesus was baptized and the father said this is my son who I am well pleased, Is Jesus a ventriloquist?
@@m97018 The invisible father is the spirit, while Yahusha is the manifestation of the spirit into flesh. His name literally means Yahuah is the saviour or better I AM your Saviour as he already declared that he (Yahuah) will be king, Sheppard, Lion, Lamb, Water, Bread etc., so how come that Yahusha is king and Yahuah too? It's simple, Because THEY ARE ONE something invisible and something visible is like calculating 0+1, which is astonishingly *ONE*
@@MrJole777 You show me where it says in the bible that the father and holy spirit are the same spirit.I have read the bible and I can't find where it says the father and holy spirit are the same,they have always been separate.
For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is giving... and he shall be called, Wonderful, Counselor, the MIGHTY GOD, The Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace Is 9:6
And Thomas answered and said unto him(Jesus) “my Lord and MY GOD” John 20:28
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God AND THE WORD WAS GOD... and the Word BECAME FLESH AND DWELT AMONG US(and we behold His glory as of the only begotten of the Father) John 1:1,14
“Let US make man in OUR own image, after OUR likeness.” Genesis 1:26- So God created man IN HIS own image- Genesis 1:27
Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I AM THE FIRST, and I AM THE LAST; and beside me THERE IS NO GOD. Isaiah 44:6
I, the LORD--the FIRST AND THE LAST--I am He." Isaiah 41:4
When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. But He (Jesus) placed His right hand on me and said, "Do not be afraid. I am the FIRST AND THE LAST,
Revelation 1:17
To the angel of the church in Smyrna write: These are the words of the FIRST AND THE LAST, who died and returned to life(Jesus Christ)
Revelation 2:8
[5] Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: [6] Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Philippians 2:5-6
“For there are THREE that bear record in heaven, The Father, The Word(John 1:1,14 Rev 19:13), and the Holy Ghost: and THESE THREE ARE ONE.”
“I and My Father are ONE.” John 10:30
Amen! Hallelujah! Praise Jesus! Thank you my brother in Christ for speaking the truth & listing the Holy Word so that they can look for themselves. God bless you😇
The Holy Spirit has been taking me to ALL of these same passages! No joke, I have all these listed. You're a God send. Keep spreading the Good News & the Truth! There's so much confusion out there.
I and my father are one in terms of direction, in terms of believes, faith, way, but are not one person. Read the context and understand it.
The father is better than I, the father is better than all I can of myself do nothing without the well of the father.
He is making it clear to you that without the father he is nothing.
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that's the problem!. God isn't one absolute person yet one absolute nature or essence. Read my comment here, please
I believe that if two verses in the Bible conflict then I am missing a piece of the puzzle or better, I don't understand something. The problem that I have with the trinity is that there are verses that conflict with the trinity doctrine. Let's keep this simple. Would someone explain how this verse goes along with the trinity doctrine?
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
So if there is one God... and the man Jesus is the mediator between God and men, then how could he be God?
Here is another question: How could anyone not believe in the trinity today? If they go to church, most likely they get brainwashed with this doctrine from an early age. I know that I was. Only after searching the scriptures and finding conflicts to the doctrine, I began to doubt the trinity theory.
God is the Father. This is repeated all over the New Testament.
Jesus is the Son of God. This is what he claimed and it is also repeated quite a lot.
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God.
To: Jeff Krueger. It is unfortunate that you think that you were brainwashed ad a child BC that was God's way of getting you the Truth. I Tim 2:5 is just showing us that there is only one God the FATHER, like Eph 4:6 also says. That doesn't mean that the SON isn't also GOD (See John 5:24 & 10:33). The Holy Spirit is also GOD (Acts 5:3-4 & II Cor 3:17) All three persons carry the name GOD , so we accept the Trinity as the GOD of the Bible.
Lonnie Satterfield Hi Lonnie. I am so glad that brought up these Bible verses. Lets look at them:
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Do you see what I see? This verse shows us there is no trinity.
There is one God.
There is one mediator between God and men. That is the MAN Jesus Christ Just how can Jesus be God if he is the mediator between God and men. God is the Father. He is the one and only God. This verse by itself is irrefutable. It is verses like this one that I read that when I truly grasped it, I came to realize all the brainwashing that I received as a child in various churches.
Let's look at the next verse that you mention.
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Lonnie, here also the bible is clear that God is the Father and he is above all. That means no co-equal trinity.
Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
I don't see what this has to do with the trinity. It is a great verse, but I don't see it applying to this discussion.
Joh 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
I love how trinitarians think that this proves anything. Jesus never said he was God. He said that He and his Father are one. The Jews said that he said that he was God, but that is not recorded in the Bible. It does not matter what these Jews said about Jesus. It matters what Jesus said about himself.
Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Act 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
I believe that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. Therefore the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father. The Holy Spirit is not a separate person who is co-equal to God. No, the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father who is able to come to all of us.
2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Both Jesus and the Father are called Lord in the N.T. What I say about this verse is that the Father is the Spirit and where the Spriit of the Father is, there is liberty.
I have studied this for a long time. The Bible verses that convinced me that the spirit of the Father is the Holy Spirit is this:
Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
In verse 23, I can not find the words "we" and "our" in the Greek. I am not an expert, but from my studies, I can't find them. If those words are left out, I believe, one can find the true meaning of the verse.
If a man loves Jesus, he will keep his words (live by his teachings), and the Father will love him, and will come unto him, and make abode with him.
This is truly wonderful. This is what I believe.
Jeff Krueger Sorry, The verse I meant to send is John 5:18 and not 24. In the verse Jesus claimed to be EQUAL with the Father just as Phil 2:6 also states. Of course I realize that you will try to explain away that Truth like you did with 10:33 where He claimed His Deity to them and that's why they said that He made Himself, GOD. You mentioned that Jesus couldn't be GOD if He is the Mediator. That's absurd reasoning BC He is just showing us that He intercedes to God the Father for us like the Holy Spirit does in ROM 8:26-27. This is no way detracts from the Deity of the Son or the Spirit. Since you won't accept this BC of your preconceived assumptions it will be interesting to see how you wiggle out of seeing the Truth in Her 1:8 where it is abundantly clear that God the Father calls the Son, GOD. The early church fathers taught the Trinity way before we entered the discussion BC they searched the Scriptures diligently. (See Council of Nicea AD 325)
Lonnie Satterfield Hi Linnie. Alright, lets look at John 5:18.
Joh 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
Lonnie, the jews wanted to kill Jesus. We hear this over and over in the New Testament. they saw him break the sabbath. Also when Jesus said that God was his Father, they turned it around and said that Jesus is making himself equal to God. This verse never says that Jesus said that he was God. It does not say that Jesus said that he was equal to God. It clearly says that Jesus said that God was his Father. There is nothing here at all to support a doctrine of the trinity.
So you think that I am explaining away John 10:33. No, I am not. I am looking for the truth in it. I used to believe in the trinity also. I bet growing up I heard it over a thousand times. When I started reading the Bible on my own, and seeking the truth of God then I started to see verses that disagreed with the trinity doctrine. I then started to question it, then I started to doubt it. Then when I started looking at all the verses that trinitarians us to prove it, at that time I knew it was false.
Lets look at John 10:33, but lets read the whole story:
oh 10:24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
Joh 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
Joh 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Joh 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
Joh 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
Joh 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
Joh 10:37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
Joh 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
Joh 10:39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,
So the Jews come to Jesus and ask him if he is the Messiah. They want him to tell them plainly. Here, again, Jesus calls God his Father. He make the statement that He, himself, give his sheep eternal life. That is very bold. Then they took up stones to stone him. Here the Jews again in verse 33 state that Jesus makes himself God. Then Jesus asks them: "Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
Lets read this verse again:
Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into
the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
Verse 36 here clearly states the Jesus again says that he is the "Son of God" He never said that he was God. Never. I am not explaining away anything. I am just reading what it says. Nothing more, nothing less.
Now I have a question for you. It is from John 10:36. This verse clearly states Say ye of him whom the Father hath sanctified and sent to the world...
If there is a trinity and the Father is God and Jesus is also co-equal God, why did God have to sanctify God? Why does God need to be sanctified?
Jeff Krueger Good question - The word means to "set apart" so the Son was set apart to do the redeeming work for sinners by dying and rising up again which was the reason He came. It is sad that you reached a point in your life that you began to question and doubt this pivotal doctrine that Christians have espoused for centuries. I applaud your parents for revealing the doctrine to you and urge you to stop trying to prove them wrong. I didn't understand a lot about the Triune God while growing up but it is abundantly unambiguous to me now.You seem to believe that for Jesus to be the Son of God , he can't also be God too. Your faulty reasoning is deceiving you. The Father call Jesus GOD in Heb 1:8 so why can't you get by your misconceptions and accept what the Father says. In Isa 6:8 we have the teaching that there is ONE true God by the pronoun "I" and that He is three persons by the pronoun "us". Just believe the Truth about who God is.
My question is from reading your website, do you baptize into the name of God? Could you clarify your position on the Godhead please.
Jesus is God
1a. 'The Word' is God (John 1:1)
1b. Jesus is 'The Word' (John 1:14)
2a. Only God can redeem us (Psalm 49:7-9)
2b. Jesus can redeem us (titus 2:13-14)
3a. God is the First and the Last (Isaiah 44:6)
3b. Jesus is the First and the Last (Revelation 1:17-18)
4a. God is the Lord of lords (Deuteronomy 10:17)
4b. Jesus is the Lord of lords (Revelation 19:16, Revelation 17:14)
5a. Everyone is a sinner (1 John 1:8, Ecclesiastes 7:20, Romans 3:10)
5b. Jesus is sinless (1 Peter 2:22, 2 Corinthians 5:21, 1 John 3:5)
6a. God is our only saviour (Isaiah 43:11-12, Luke 1:47, 1 Timothy 2:3-4)
6b. Jesus is our saviour (1 John 4:14, Acts 13:23, Luke 2:11, Titus 2:13, 2 Peter 1:1, Philippians 3:20, 2 Timothy 1:10)
7a. We are only allowed to worship God (Revelation 22:9, Leviticus 19:4, Exodus 20:4-5, 1 John 5:21)
7b. Jesus accepted worship (Matthew 28:9, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 2:11, Matthew 28:16-17, John 9:38, Luke 24:50-52)
You forgot my favorite verse.
Hebrews 1:8 - But to the Son He says: “Your throne, *O God,* is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
GOD cannot be given anything from anyone, in terms of; power, authority, etc
GOD cannot come from anything, as in; a source and cause
GOD cannot be equaled; as He is above all things
GOD declared Himself the source and cause of all things; alone and by Himself
Therefore and with that being said, Jesus is not GOD
@@smalltimer4370 How do you explain Hebrews 1 verses 8 and 9? It's the author arguing how Christ is far above just angels and is in fact God.
Hebrews 1:8 - But *to the Son* He says: "Your throne, *O God,* is forever and ever;
Hebrews 1:9 - *Therefore God, Your God,* has anointed You With the oil of gladness.
Either there's contradiction within the written word because of the Old Testament passages clearly stating God is one or Jesus Christ, and the Father, are both God. Hence "therefore God, your God".
Makes sense with John 1:1 too where the Word *was with and was* God. Then in Colossians 1 we learn Jesus Christ was before all things, made all things for himself, sustains them, and in him dwells all fullness.
@@quentoncollins8861
Who says being above the angels makes one GOD?
Where are such things written?
The account is clear as day, Jesus was anointed to the throne 'prepared for Him' by His own GOD and Father, and was 'given' all authority 'by GOD' over heaven and earth - to which I'd add, and here again, the record shows that Jesus is clearly not GOD, as GOD cannot be given anything in such cases.
Having said that and in response to Heb 1.8-9 the answer is in the details;
1. The words found in verses 8-9 were originally written by the human Psalmist
2. The original citation was in-reference to a human King anointed to the throne of David prepared by YHWH
3. The title of GOD given to the human King did not make Him equal-to or GOD Himself, but moreso, it was used to identify the Son of GOD in power, as a GOD with a GOD above Him - and that the GOD of the son, is the GOD over all, through all and in us all - in other words; the GOD of the son called GOD, is the Most High GOD.
*RE:* ...the Old Testament passages clearly stating God is one...
*A.* Correct, GOD as-in; YHWH alone, who is One, unequaled, none like Him - none before or after, etc, etc, etc.
*RE:* or Jesus Chris and the Father, are both God
*A.* Doesn't work, we cannot have one GOD distinguished from the other in power, and claim equality
And so at best, what we are left with, is the son of GOD given the title of GOD, with a GOD above Him, just as it was with the Davidic King in Psalm 45.
And while this may prove challenging to accept, it's worth noting that the title of GOD is not definitive in this context, as we find similar titles being given onto angels and humans by YHWH throughout Bible history, and who were clearly not GOD equal-to or GOD themselves.
In addition to this, it's also worth noting that the Bible makes the distinction between [the GOD] and those given the title of GOD - not of the true and false sense, as that would entail the worship due to GOD, but moreso, as delegates of power authorized by YHWH, and who were worthy of carrying-out GODs judgment in His stead - such as; Moses, the Davidic King, the angels in the assembly, the human Judges and least but not last, the only begotten son of GOD anointed to the throne in heaven.
*RE:* Hence "therefore God, your God"
*A.* The obvious contradiction with this is that cannot have a Most High GOD in subjection to a higher power - and where the passage makes the distinction between the son of GOD called GOD and the GOD above Him - taking note that the order of operations is that there is one absolute power over all, through all and in all - and that is the GOD and Father of Jesus who's name was revealed to humanity as YHWH for all eternity and all generations.
*RE:* Makes sense with John 1:1 too where the Word was with and was God
*A.* Here again, we cannot conclude that the word be equal to GOD when it has a source and origin, and where it is commanded carry out the will of GOD.
And so if we are to adhere to the order of operations, then the logical conclusion is that the word which was GOD, was not equal-to or GOD itself, but
more aptly, a representation of GODs will being done - hens, why the account makes use of a personification(word) rather than identifying the son or Jesus.
*RE:* in Colossians 1 we learn Jesus Christ was before all things, made all things for himself...
*A.* Let's take a closer look;
_17He is before all things, and in him all things are held together. 18He is the head of the body, the assembly, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19For all the fullness was pleased to dwell in him; 20and through him to reconcile all things to himself, by him, whether things on the earth, or things in the heavens, having made peace through the blood of his cross._
As can be seen here, the words; _'he made all things for Himself...'_ do not appear in the text - and so, it would be better to adhere to the text as it is written than to cite words that are not written, as this is how corruptions are made.
As for preeminence, it is from such terminology that Jesus' own progeny as GODs only begotten son is established, taking note that He is given all things by His own GOD and Father, and in contrast with the Father who is given nothing by no one.
And finally, it's worth noting that the fullness which dwelled in Jesus Christ also dwells in His disciples - see; one with GOD as I am one with GOD, & being filled etc.
Having said that, it's also worth noting that the notion of Jesus preexisting creation makes perfect sense, that this would not undermine the order of operations of the fact that the word came from GOD, and did as GOD commanded it to do;
𝟼𝐁𝐲 𝐘𝐚𝐡𝐰𝐞𝐡'𝐬 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐝, 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚑𝚎𝚊𝚟𝚎𝚗𝚜 𝚠𝚎𝚛𝚎 𝚖𝚊𝚍𝚎; 𝚊𝚕𝚕 𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚒𝚛 𝚊𝚛𝚖𝚢 𝚋𝚢 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚋𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚝𝚑 𝚘𝚏 𝚑𝚒𝚜 𝚖𝚘𝚞𝚝𝚑... ...9𝐅𝐨𝐫 𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐩𝐨𝐤𝐞, 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚒𝚝 𝚠𝚊𝚜 𝚍𝚘𝚗𝚎. 𝐇𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐝, 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚒𝚝 𝚜𝚝𝚘𝚘𝚍 𝚏𝚒𝚛𝚖 - Psalm 33.6-9
𝚜𝚘 𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚕𝚕 𝐦𝐲 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐝 𝐛𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐠𝐨𝐞𝐬 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐡 𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐨𝐟 𝐦𝐲 𝐦𝐨𝐮𝐭𝐡: 𝚒𝚝 𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚕𝚕 𝚗𝚘𝚝 𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚞𝚛𝚗 𝚝𝚘 𝚖𝚎 𝚟𝚘𝚒𝚍, 𝚋𝚞𝚝 𝚒𝚝 𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚕𝚕 𝚊𝚌𝚌𝚘𝚖𝚙𝚕𝚒𝚜𝚑 𝚝𝚑𝚊𝚝 𝚠𝚑𝚒𝚌𝚑 𝙸 𝚙𝚕𝚎𝚊𝚜𝚎, 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚒𝚝 𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚕𝚕 𝚙𝚛𝚘𝚜𝚙𝚎𝚛 𝚒𝚗 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝙸 𝚜𝚎𝚗𝚝 𝚒𝚝 𝚝𝚘 𝚍𝚘 - Isaiah 55.11
@@smalltimer4370 So you're arguing the writer of Hebrews was misapplying the Psalms then and therefore in error? Are you arguing that Jesus is some "lesser" God turning Christianity into basically a pantheon since the words literally say "therefore God, your God"? The author of Hebrews is arguing Christ as the Son of God hence greater than the angels, but you're making it a pantheon.
Colossians 1:16 - For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. *All things were created through Him and for Him.*
Literally for him.
As well you're now having to argue that Jesus, in John 5:23 when he says all should honor the Son as they do the Father, who is a jealous God, is *allowing his honor to be given to something not him.* This creates a myriad of errors in the New Testament that destroys inerrancy. A swath of contradiction.
Your eisegesis of John 1:1 is just that. The Bible plainly states the Word *was with and was* God. You're adding everything else to this and interpreting the Word as "less" when the text bluntly associates both the Word and God as God while maintaining distinction. It's right there in the grammar you don't add to it.
Romans 10:13 is a good quote of Joel 2:32 about YHWH that Paul applies to Christ.
I mean even the Jews of the second temple generation realized Christ is claiming to be God per John 10:33 and John 8:59. You are literally having to believe that a jealous God who absolutely detests all forms of idolatry is now allowing a lesser being be worshipped. Just nope.
For the record Jesus even testified that you must believe he is God to be saved in John 8.
"The Trinity must be read into
Scripture not out from it. In fact, I don’t think anyone can arrive at
the Trinity from only reading the Bible. It has to be taught alongside
of Scripture, and even then most people don’t understand it. " right!
Jesus told me that "Humans got the trinity all wrong." He gave me the understanding that the Trinity doctrine that there are three ENTITIES in one God is incorrect. There is God, His Word, His Spirit. God sent Jesus to us as the WORD made flesh. Jesus told us he would not leave us orphans and God's Spirit was sent to us. Ultimately, not three entities, just our Father giving us his WORD as the lamb of God and much more, and his Spirit to comfort and guide us. So simple yet religion and it's scholars cannot figure it out.
***** not a Trinitarian..Follower of Christ.
You can not believe yeshua was just a holy prophet. He claimed to be the only way to God the Father. If he wasn't who he said he was then he was a liar or a madman.
Please, just read it in full and come to the knowledge of the truth
www.fivesolas.com/jo_trin.htm
Words of WISDOM, precious one.
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go.
No trinity
Matthew 4:6-“you shall not tempt the Lord thy God.”
1 John 5:7-“there are 3 that bear record in heaven, the Father, the word and Holy Ghost, and these three are on.
John 8:58-“before Abraham was I Am”
@@Jack-mc1xq its a 16 century addition forgery, tells you everything you need to know www.trinitytruth.org/was1john5_7addedtext.html
@@Jack-mc1xq
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Deutoronomy 4:35
"To you it was shown that you might know that the LORD, He is God; there is no other besides Him.
Deutoronomy 6:4
"Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!
Deutoronomy 32:39
'See now that I, I am He, And there is no god besides Me; It is I who put to death and give life I have wounded and it is I who heal, And there is no one who can deliver from My hand.
2 Samuel 7:22
"For this reason You are great, O Lord GOD; for there is none like You, and there is no God besides You, according to all that we have heard with our ears.
1 Chronicles 17:20
"O LORD, there is none like You, nor is there any God besides You, according to all that we have heard with our ears.
Psalms 83:18
That they may know that You alone, whose name is the LORD, Are the Most High over all the earth.
Psalms 86:10
For You are great and do wondrous deeds; You alone are God.
Isaiah 43:10
"You are My witnesses," declares the LORD, "And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me.
Isaiah 44:6
"Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me.
Isaiah 45:18
For thus says the LORD, who created the heavens (He is the God who formed the earth and made it, He established it and did not create it a waste place, but formed it to be inhabited), "I am the LORD, and there is none else.
Mark 12:29
Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;
1 Corinthians 8:4
Therefore concerning the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that there is no such thing as an idol in the world, and that there is no God but one.
Ephesians 4:6
one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all.
The singular vs plural pronouns argument falls flat on its face because both singular and plural are used in reference to God, and I’m not a trinitarian
That's the Royal "We". We can be used by a single person, buy I cannot be used for multiple people. We is used in the Qur'an too, despite the fact that Islam is pure monotheism.
If Jesus is identical with God the Father, yet if Jesus is also our "advocate": with the father (as we learn in the scriptures), wouldn't this create a conflict of interest?
Identical in nature and divinity, distinct in person
Yes it would, thats why there is one Creator without Partners, with no beginning or end...
@@queenslove92 exactly what Jesus believed because he was a follower of Moses's religion... Jesus didn't come to destroy the Law or the prophets
@@bobpolo2964 Therefore there are two Gods.
@@jb_1971 No. One God in three persons. Would you say that the Holy Spirit is another god?
TRUTH!!!! YOU SIR ARE A REAL CHRISTIAN! We could all live in peace if we all worshipped ONE GOD
🎯THE TRINITY BRIEFLY EXPLAINED.
GOD: The Father, The Son/Word, The Holyghost.
MAN: The Body Soul and Spirit.
*"God breathed into man and he became a living Soul" Genesis 2*
John 8:42 *"I proceeded forth and came out from God"* -Jesus
John 16:8.28 *"I came forth from God"*
John 1:1 "In the beginning was the WORD, the WORD was with God and the WORD was God. All things were made by him"
John 15:26-27 *"The Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:"*
Get your salvation now before it's late. John chapter 3: 3,16,18,36
Matthew 11:
25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. 26 Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
Psalm 110:1
The LORD said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”
Mark 16:19
After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God.
Revelations 3:21
To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.
Yep, it should have been!
Jehovah and Jesus are one in agreement with each other, the same as Jesus said about the congregation... “I have given them the glory which you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one.”-John 17:22
The Bible also says that a husband and wife become ONE also, not one physical body but one in thoughts, interests, soulmates, etc. Genesis 2:24
you have good understanding. i would say they love eachother very much and are in agreement on any important issue
@@YM-wj2dr It doesn't defend the trinity doctrine. One God
The Greek word Kai is translated as and, it is also Even or that is. The word And does not mean another person. Matt 28:19 says NAME singular which is Jesus. All you have to do is read through acts and notice when they mentioned baptism. Jesus is considered the Lamb of God, the King of Kings, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the High Priest. And you believe that, but you don’t believe that One God can be all of that and more.
Isaiah 44:6-8 KJVS
[6] Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. [7] And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them. [8] Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it ? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
Revelation 1:7-8 KJVS
[7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. [8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Isaiah 9:6 KJVS
[6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJVS
[16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Colossians 2:8-9 KJVS
[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. [9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Jude 1:25 KJVS
[25] To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
Well over 300 times the singular pronoun is used when speaking of God. The Greek Τριάδα is translated trinity. Not once is it used by the Apostles, nor of the OT writers. The OT is clear that ONE God was taught, then after the Apostles died He changed His mind?
Mark 12:29 KJVS
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Zechariah 14:9 (NKJV) 9 And the LORD shall be King over all the earth.
In that day it shall be-
“The LORD is one,” And His name one.
@@YM-wj2dr is become one in mind does mean same person? Become one in mind is that they're agree in to clean all the trouble. John 17:21 already explaining we are one in Christ and God also does that make Jesus and God one person?
I want to follow Jesus teachings but i don't believe in trinity. What church do you recommend I learn more about? I really want to worship with like-minded people.
To find churches and home groups that believe the Father of Jesus is the only true God, check out the Unitarian Christian Alliance: www.unitarianchristianalliance.org/group-directory/
@@christianmonotheism do they also teach he died for our sins? It's also a very foreign concept to me why an almighty God would need one person to die for all. If the penalty for sin is death we all die and pay that prize, no?
@@shadowsidesoamplified God can't die, because He's eternal. So God didn't die for our sins, cause Jesus isn't God. He is the Son of God. Read Romans 5:12-21. It should help you understand why we became sinners through one man Adam. And redeemed through another Man Jesus.
@@algaeselbor1472 i know what you mean but we all die, so why does he have to die for our sins. It makes no sense to me. Same with the sin of Adam. Anyway yes Id rather have Jesus and no bird beings or lizard people
@@shadowsidesoamplified In Leviticus17:11 God said "For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement (amends, reparation) for your souls; for it is blood that makes atonement for the soul."
Sin causes death and separates us from God because he is perfect and holy. God allows a life for a life to reconcile a person to Himself. In the old testament, and under the law, God allowed animal blood to atone for sins. He sent Jesus as a better and more perfect sacrifice to once and for all eradicate the sin in our life. Jesus shed His blood for us. A life for a life in order to bridge the gap between us and God, since we were dead in our sins.
James 1:13-15 talks about sin and how it brings forth death. We need a substitute, sacrificial life to be given life again. Jesus' death did more than that though. It brought righteousness, justification, sanctification, healing, etc.
Hope this helps and makes sense. Some of the things in the bible are not easy to understand, and in some cases have taken me years to learn. I enjoy trying to explain, and if I can answer anymore just ask.
Here is something else...what's your take on this please...The other disciples therefore said unto him, Thomas, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
Jesus Appears to Thomas
…eight days later, His disciples were once again inside with the doors locked, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you.” Then Jesus said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and look at My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe.” Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!”… Jesus did not rebuke Thomas when he called Him God!
Anne Sorry I know I’m way late in replying but I really wanted to answer this. When Thomas said “My Lord and My God” it was more of an exclamation of unbelief than it was him actually calling Jesus God. Almost like if I see you do something I thought was unbelievable or impossible I would say “oh my God”. Does that mean I’m referring to you as God? Not exactly. I’m just calling out to God because I’ve seen something that I once thought couldn’t be done. Similarly, Thomas did not believe that the person standing in front of him could be Jesus since he has just seen Jesus crucified and buried. Once he touched Jesus in the hole where he’d been nailed then he realized that it was him and was in complete awe, thus “My Lord and My God”. It’s shouldn’t really be seen as Thomas calling Jesus God
That doesn't mean he said he was God, not t he same thing. This is still grasping for something that is not there. Jesus never claimed to be God but the anti-christ will.
@@raya7052 If you're saying it's just an exclamation, then JESUS could have called Thomas out for mentioning GOD in vain (empty, worthless, nothing). May it be just an expression or intentional, it is strictly forbidden by GOD HIMSELF (Exodus 20:7) as stated in the 3rd commandment. Saying the expression "Oh my GOD" also directly disobeys this commandment. Please know that when Thomas said those words, he knows what he meant. And JESUS see through his heart that he means what he said that HE is the LORD GOD.
@@raya7052 Are you serious?
It was not an exclamation of unbelief like saying "oh my God".
First of all, if Thomas said "oh my God" as an exclamation, that would mean that Thomas did the despicable act of taking the Lord's name in vain. Jesus would have surely chastised him for that. Thomas was a pious Jew who adhered to Jewish Law, and speaking the Lord's name in vain was absolutely unspeakable and was considered blasphemy. Do you really think he did that, especially in front of the Son of God?
No, it wasn't just an "exclamation". Maybe I did not clarify myself. First of all, from reading the OT, the commandment of not taking the Lord's name in vain seemed to be specifically forbid 1) directly blaspheming or cursing the name of God (see Leviticus 24:16). 2) empty or false oaths: “You shall not swear by my name falsely, and so profane the name of your God: I am the Lord” (Lev. 19:12; Hos. 10:4). Basically, when you make a declaration, swearing by God’s name, it must not be a false promise or one you do not intend to keep. 3) false visions and false claims to speak on God’s behalf, for such prophets “prophesy lies in my name” (Jer. 23:25). Strangely enough, sacrificing one’s children to the false god Molech was considered a violation of the third commandment because it profaned the name of God (Lev. 18:21). The Israelites were to stone the man who sacrificed his children in this way. Failure to do so would allow for uncleanness to permeate the camp, thereby besmirching the name of the Lord, who dwelt in the midst of his people. 4) unlawfully touching any holy things coming from God (see Leviticus 22:2, Malachi 1:10-14:).
There are many other things that could also be potential violations of His Third Commandment. Even this idea some of you have perpetuated that I say Thomas said what he said "in vain" would be an offense if it's true. However, I do not think that Thomas violated this law when said it in this way. In fact I completely reject that assumption. Thomas did NOT say "My Lord and My God" in vain or with emptiness/worthlessness as you say I described. How could he? He was a devout follower of Christ and a devout follower of God. He saw his Lord and Master die on the cross and watched him be buried. Thomas believed Jesus Christ to be dead at that time. When he heard from the other disciples that Jesus Christ had been resurrected, he (unlike the other disciples), did not believe. He wanted to see Jesus with his own eyes and touch him where he had been nailed and to put in hand in the place where he had been pierced. Jesus appeared to Thomas and the rest of the apostles and allowed Thomas to touch him. Thomas, who just previously did not believe that his Lord and Master had actually come back to life, now believed and thus you get the statement: "my Lord and my God". This isn't an empty exclamation. He's not saying "Oh my God" like how we say it so commonly in modern times for nearly anything. He says "My Lord and My God" as a statement to testify that he now truly believes what he's actually been told and been taught throughout the Gospel of John: that Jesus Christ was going to be brought back to life by God. He had failed to understand it for a while because he did not see it with his own two eyes but now, after having been able to see his risen Lord, Thomas no longer denies and disbelieves.
Genesis 11:7
“Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.”
@Zakari Romany - he is not bro. And what about Elohim, in Genesis 1?
@Zakari Romany Book of Jasher is non-canon to scripture.
What do you mean he's "talking to wisdom"? This is just your wonky interpretation. Every Jew who knows the language says Elohim is plural. There's even more evidence of the Trinity in the old Testament alone. Don't even need John 1:1 or 1 John 5:7.
@@diegosegreto3872 there are evidences all over the Bible about the Father Son and the Holy Ghost. We all can't deny that. Read 1 John: 5: 7-8 there are 3 that bare record in heaven and also there are 3 that bare witness on Earth. You are on point bro. God bless 🙏🙏💙💛
Amen
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John 14:24 " anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not of my own; they belong to the Father who sent me".
Acts 7:55 " But Stephen, full of holy spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God".
Jesus can't be God if he was seen standing at the right hand of God.
John 7:16 " Jesus answered, my teaching is not my own. It comes from the one who sent me.
Jesus says he's teaching God's teaching. Not his own. I don't understand how people believe Jesus is God.
John 17:3 " Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent".
If Jesus is God than who is he speaking to in his prayer?
John 5:30 " By myself I can do nothing; I judge not only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to Please myself but him who sent me".
John 14:28 " The father is greater than I".
How can jesus be God when he said someone is greater than he is?
Jesus also taught us how to pray. He taught us how to pray to the father and only to the father. Jesus never said pray to me.
The trinity messed up a big part of Christianity. The trinity was created was made by Catholics at the counci of nicaea around the beginning of the 3rd century. The trinity makes God a mystery. It's nothing but a big lie. I personally don't trust anything that comes out of the Catholic church. They got rid of the Second commandment and they also do many other things that the bible says not to do!!
Chris Carter ,excellent points there .People still will argue though even with those logical facts, frustrating 😒
@@dazzadizzy5308 So who is Jesus then ?
@@santanabaltilleramo2009 God's son , first born of all creation
@@dazzadizzy5308 plz explain , a prophet?
@@santanabaltilleramo2009 no he's son of God ,first born I arent muslim
John 8:58 “Jesus answered them: 'I solemnly declare it: before Abraham came to be, I AM.” [This was the name God gave himself when he first communicated with Moses, Exodus 3:14 “God replied, 'I am who am. ' Then he added, 'This is what you shall tell the Israelites: I AM sent me to you. '”]
Revelation 22:13 Jesus says “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”
John 14:5-16
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?” (I didn’t not go through the whole verse but if you continue to verse 16 it talks about the Holy Spirit also)
Isaiah 43:10 (this is the Old Testament and the father says I am Jesus/the servant that’s in Isaiah chapter 53)
“Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that [I am he]: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.”
John 13:19 (Jesus says I am he) “Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that [I am he.]”
Revelation 1:8 The father claims to be the alpha thee omega the beginning and the end Revelation 22:13 Jesus also claims to be the alpha and the omega the first and the last theses are claims only God can make
John 20:28-29 does not get remotely any clearer then this
“28 And Thomas answered and [said unto him, My Lord and my God.]
29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. “ (look how Jesus responds he didn’t say don’t call me God he took the title which was given to him)
John 1:1-5,14. (The word is Jesus)
“1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.”
14 “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
Philippians 2:6-10
6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. 9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
Nowhere in Exodus 3, does GOD identify 'I am' as His name.
And you would know that if you actually read the account(not single passages), but the entire account, as we find GOD explicitly stating His name(see; this is my name), in the very next verse(15).
@@SmalltimR your the biggest liar in this comment section and it’s sad because your religion allows you to lie to people to win converts if anyone wants the truth it’s literally in exodus 3
Did God ever speak and said "our" or "us"?
If God is only one person why would He speak and say "our" or "us" if only God has the glory of creation?
***** The United States is awesome, she is a great country!
The United Statessss is ONE country!
We are created in God's image.
26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; ...........” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."
Does Genesis 1: 27 say we are created in the image of God and His sons or does it only say we are created in the image of God ONLY?
Answer that.
***** I am not "pepped up" about anything.
If you can't understand my point and the reason I used the USA as an example, then it is no wonder and no surprise you can't grasp the Trinity. I won't even explain, it should be obvious for people who can actually think rationally and humble.
"God said let us"
The "us" there cannot include angels because only God made man in His image. If you include angels in having anything to do with our creation, then "by Myself" and "All alone" would be lies. But God cannot lie. God made us in His image all alone and by Himself, so the "us" there must only be God and God alone!
The text doesn't say Angels did anything related to helping God do anything.
The text says only God is creator and maker without need of any help from anyone or anything. Period.
Isaiah 44: 24
Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, *"I, the LORD, am the maker of all things,* Stretching out the heavens *by Myself* And spreading out the earth *all alone!*
Psalms 100: 3
*Know that the LORD Himself is God; It is He who has made us*, and not we ourselves; We are His people and the sheep of His pasture!
As Genesis 1: 27 CONFIRMS "So God created man in His own image"
Note that it says "God created man in His image"
It doesn't say "God with help of angels created man in His image"
You are privately interpreting the Word of God according to your own thought pattern and forget that God's ways and thoughts are not ours.
2 Peter 1 : 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit!
Isaiah 55: 8 “For My thoughts are not your thoughts,Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord.9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth,So are My ways higher than your ways,And My thoughts than your thoughts!
***** Yes, I understand the concept of the Trinity , the thing I won't understand is how God is a Trinity.
I can understand how scripture gives the same Godly attributes to The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, that's easy to read and grasp, but I will never understand how that works!
I think that's pretty obvious.
Is not arrogant to know how to read and compare texts. It's not arrogant to read.
Yes, rational. Because God says His ways and thoughts are not ours, so it is perfectly rational that God has a higher way of existing than ours. But you wish God was how you arrogantly put Him to be, because you think God is predictable. Can't you read?
Isaiah 40: 28 Don’t you know? Haven’t you heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the creator of the ends of the earth. He doesn’t grow tired or weary.*His understanding is beyond human reach"*
It is perfectly rational to read how God does things in the Father THROUGH the Son and the Holy Spirit, and then at the same time claim eagerly that God is ONE!
Deut 6: 4 Sh'ma Yisrael YHWH Eloheynu YHWH Echad!
YHWH is ECHAD (ONE) God.
Adam and Eve is ECHAD (ONE) Flesh.
You still don't get it!
I am not arguing whether Angels are made in the image of God. That's your red-herring.
I am simply reading the text and the text says that the "us" in "Let us make man in our image" are the ones who actually made man in His image. So why would you argue Angel's image of God, if that has nothing to do with God making us BY HIMSELF AND ALL ALONE?
Please, fathom before you reply. You are rudely mistaken.
***** YOU were the one who brought up "sons of God" to begin with not I.
But then I must ask this:
If God created ALL BY HIMSELF AND ALL ALONE , who are the "us" in Genesis 1: 26.
That's the topic.
***** You've just said Jesus is God by admitting that the "us" includes Jesus.
Because only God made man in His own image BY HIMSELF AND ALL ALONE!
No one can deny that.
Let me try and explain.
The "us" in Genesis 1: 26 is referring to God , and God alone.
Because NO ONE ELSE BESIDE GOD MAKES ANYTHING!
Only God is maker.
It's so simple.
I freaking love how I just took a walk and prayed desperately to God about the holy trinity, how to understand it and how to really know God, and then I find this. =) Im ex-Pagan/Wiccan and have been so confused because have still felt like Ive been trying to get to know and worship 3 Gods when I was told christianity was a monotheistic religion. I've have been in desperation, longing, and confusion for the better part of the last two weeks after my 3rd near death experience.
What did you see in your near-death experiences?
Chasing down truth, Ask AND you shall receive, thats awesome!! Im just coming out of the Trinity Theology myself and it has unlocked the Bible "now" that I'm allowed to read it correctly!!😅
Please try reading the Quran.
1 John 5:7-8. If your still confused, I would love to have the honor to explain it to you.
@@A_Man_Of_YHVH That verse is viewed as a fabrication in the old bibles, but sure explain it, let us hear your view of the story...
Trinity is hilariously broken.
Alexander Schwartz
You think that's funny?What is so funny about that?I like a good laugh.Let me know the joke bro.
Not that funny. The devil has USED it to SPLIT God's camp! NOT good!! We MUST be WISE, and PRAY for each other on BOTH SIDES!
how is it broken?
@@richardjordan3735 broken by bible itself
John 1:1 says In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Notice how the word was spelled with a capital "W". This is because John was using "the Word" to illustrate Jesus. It clearly says Jesus was God.
Furthermore In John 10:30 Jesus says, "I and the Father are one"
What about the grammatical phenomena in Genesis, “Let us make man in our Image”?
How do you account for Jesus saying he is the “Son of Man” the biblical figure in Daniel who is worshipped?
The us in 'let us create...' was YHWH addressing His word as indicated in Psalm 33.6-9
Genesis 1:27 (NKJV) 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
_God is _*_Not A Man_*_ nor _*_A Son Of Man._*_ (Numbers __23:19__)_
*_'For I Am God, And Not Man’._*_ (Hosea 11:9)_
@Paul Wise Is Jesus the unique Son of God?
@Paul Wise Jesus is the Son of God by nature, correct?
@Paul Wise What do you mean? Is Jesus divine like His Father?
@Paul Wise How can Jesus be biologically related to His Father but not be divine. That's incoherent. I don't expect you to know how to explain everything, but I'm interested in how you work through the Scriptures. This isn't a debate. Just a friendly dialogue between two guys who hold different positions. No animosity whatsoever
@Paul Wise - _28:18__ - “All authority in heaven and on earth _*_Has Been Given To Me._*_ Given? _*_By Whom?_*_ Matthew __28:19__ - _*_Therefore_*_ go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of _*_The Father (1)_*_ and of _*_The Son (2)_*_ and of _*_The Holy Spirit (3)._*_ How can Three Persons be God when there is only _*_One God_*
I do not believe in the doctrine of the trinity and I cannot be also an Unitarian, because since Genesis to Revelation talks about Jesus the only begotten of the Father. I believe in God the Father and His only begotten Son Jesus Christ, as we read in Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Thou art not far from the kingdom. Be blessed.
@Um No only one Spirit of God Almighty ===) Ephesians 4 v 4 To 6.
Christ is the Spirit manifested in the Flesh. 1 john 5 v 6.
A SPIRIT over all : Christ Spirit of God i.e the Father ===) Romans 9 v 5 *The SPIRIT*
Through all : Christ in the Flesh ===) Matthew 1 v 23 *The Body*
In all : Christ the Holy Spirit *the soul* in the blood ===) Galatians 2 v 20, Romans 8 v 9, Leviticus 17 v 11
A sentinelle of Christ appointed by CHRIST
Jesus said very clearly in John 17:3: " This means everlasting life, taking in the knowledge of YOU THE ONLY TRUE GOD (YAHWEH/JEHOVAH) AND OF ME JESUS CHRIST WHOM YOU SENT FORTH". Trinitarians get a grip on the real Truth because you've been misled.
How about instead of cherry picking you read more then one verse.
in John 17:1-5 Jesus says he has authority over all flesh (Jeremiah 32:27 God has authority over all flesh),can give eternal life, and Jesus existed before the world did.
Jesus is YAHWEH
@@mysteryman8122 "cherry picking" you said? My position is most definitely based on the consistency of The Bible as a whole; compared to the " cherry picking" of The Scriptures trinitarians use The Scriptures for to base this false doctrine. Why even the verses you mentioned make it clear that Christ Jesus gets his authority to do all he does from GOD ALMIGHTY - and not himself.
@@mysteryman8122And how About who's God's Faithful Witness Revelation 1:5?
@timmehallaenious910 Christendom are Cherry picking indeed they're proven to be False Witness breath out lie Proverb 14:5. And Clearly hate God's Faithful Witness teaching Revelation 1:5.
John 3:16, clearly states that God the Father, sent/gave his Son.
-- as for the Spirit of God, it is clearly stated by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:45. Christ = last Adam.
See also, G3875 in the Strong's Concordance.
We also can't find a single scripture in the Bible where Yahshua said he was Elohim.🤠
Hebrews 1:8 {the Father calls Jesus God} Psalm 45:6
But unto the Son he {God } saith,
Thy throne, O God {Theos}, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom.
The Holy Spirit applies this to Jesus (Hebrews) and to The Father (Psalm 45:6).
Psalm 45:6
Your throne, O God, will last, forever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
John 20:28, 29 {Thomas calls Jesus God}
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
{ o Kurios mou kai o Theos mou } the definite article.
…..Does Jesus correct Thomas? No, he calls him blessed.
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Romans 9:5 {Paul calls Jesus GOD}
Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen…NIV
I Timothy 4:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Colossians 2:9
For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
Titus 2:13
Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,
Philippians 2:5-7
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man:
John 1:1, 2,3,14 {John calls Jesus God}
In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God
Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς
En arche en ho logos kai ho logos en pros ton Theon kai theos
was the Word .
ἦν ὁ Λόγος.
en ho Logos
He was in [the] beginning with God.
All things through him came into being, and without him came into being not even one [thing] which has come into being.
And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us,
Matthew 1:23 (Matthew calls Jesus GOD}
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Acts 20:28 {Luke calls Jesus God}
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
2 Peter 1:1 {Peter calls Jesus God}
Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:
Isaiah 7:14 {The Holy Spirit calls Jesus God}
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
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Beautiful answer !
YAH BLESS !
@@canderssonswedican7486 2 Peter 1:1 doesn't say "God." It's says "Lord" in the Greek.
@@canderssonswedican7486 this is great work brother!! God bless you. May I copy it?
@@ea-tr1jh its GOD in Greek.
Theou Θεοῦ=GOD
árchontas άρχοντας=LORD
ΠΕΤΡΟΥ Β΄ 1:1 Greek NT: Westcott and Hort 1881
ΣΙΜΩΝ ΠΕΤΡΟΣ δοῦλος καὶ ἀπόστολος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ τοῖς ἰσότιμον ἡμῖν λαχοῦσιν πίστιν ἐν δικαιοσύνῃ τοῦ 》θ̳ε̳ο̳ῦ̳《 ἡμῶν καὶ σωτῆρος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ·
Jesus
John 1:1 the Word was God.
John 1:3 Col 1:16 He's a creator of heavens and earth, Heb 1:10 the Father said the Son created heavens and earth , Heb 1:10 the Father calls the Son God, 1st John 5:20 Jesus is the true God, Acts 5:3,4 the Holy Spirit is God.
God can't live on the earth (1 Kings 8:27)!
@@misteranonymous5784 Jesus was on the earth.
@@misteranonymous5784 Also, quote the entire verse next time:
"1Kings 8:27 But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?"
The lottery: A tax on people who can't do math.
The trinity: A belief with people who can't do math.
Trinity conclusion is you have a Father that is 100% God, a son that is 100% God, and a holy spirit that is 100% God, all making ONE 100% God.
Yes you can’t undertand it becuase we are this physical realm God is not from earth he’s from above. Your not going to understand how the father the son and Holy sport exist together as one becuase you don’t know what the 4,5,6,7 dimensional realm looks like or what it’s like God isn’t limited he’s above all.
2fast2block and Scriptire never uses the word trinity it’s called the Godhead
@@coltonbrown9821 so how can you say we can't understand yet claim to understand?
Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed5087 heir of all things, by whom also he made4160 the worlds;
Hebrews 3:1.... Jesus Christ,
2 faithful to Him Who created4160 him, as Moses also was in all his house.
3 For he has been counted worthy of more eminence than Moses, since the one having constructed it has more honour than the house.
4 For every house is built by somebody, but
He Who built all things is God.
5 And Moses was indeed faithful in all his house as a servant, for a testimony of those things going to be spoken afterwards.
6 Christ, though, is faithful as a son over his house, whose house we are, if we hold fixed the firm confidence and the rejoicing of the hope until the end.
@@AAdaughterofYHWH - apprehend and comprehend are two different things.
Scientists don't know what energy, consciousness and gravity is , they can only describe them . Yet understanding God is supposed to be simple? The very one who said, your ways are not my ways, the very one who created energy, consciousness and gravity, He who is eternal and it can't be mysterious some way?
Is the Trinity taught in the Old Testament?
The word Trinity is not used in the Bible, but the doctrine of the tri-unity of God is clearly taught in the New Testament. The Old Testament does not explicitly teach the doctrine, but the concept of the Trinity is hinted at in certain places. We could say that the Old Testament lays a foundation for the later revelation concerning the Trinity.
The doctrine of the Trinity finds support in the Old Testament in the Hebrew concept of plurality in unity:
Deuteronomy 6:4 is a verse that seems, at first, to wholly negate the doctrine of the Trinity: “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.” (Interestingly, the singular Yahweh is coupled with the plural Elohim in this verse.) The word translated “one” is ehad, which means “one” or “unity”; however, the word is also used in other contexts to suggest a plurality within unity. For example, the word ehad also appears in Genesis 2:24, which considers two persons as one: “[A man] is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one [ehad]” (NLT). Obviously, the husband and wife are distinct persons, but they are called “one”-there is diversity within the unity.
The doctrine of the Trinity finds support in the Old Testament in the names for God:
The very fact that God reveals Himself using multiple names in the Old Testament could be a clue pointing to His triune nature. Two of the names show up right away: Elohim in Genesis 1:1, and Yahweh in Genesis 2:4. Some scholars believe the multiple names for God imply a diversity within the Godhead.
One of the Hebrew names for “God” in our Bible, Elohim, is plural in form. The -im suffix is plural, and elohim, when not referring to the One True God, is translated as “gods” (plural) in Scripture. The plural form of a name for the One God could be seen as implying a perfect unity of Persons and is certainly consistent with the New Testament teaching of the Trinity.
Adonai, translated in our Bibles as “Lord,” occurs about 300 times in the Old Testament. This title for God is also plural. One writer comments on the word Adonai, “It is significant that it is almost always in the plural and possessive, meaning ‘my Lords.’ It confirms the idea of a trinity as found also in the name of Elohim” (Stone, Nathan, The Names of God, Moody Publishers, 2010, p. 35).
The doctrine of the Trinity finds support in the Old Testament in the appearances of the Angel of the Lord:
In several places, the Old Testament records encounters with someone called “the Angel of the Lord.” This supernatural presence speaks as if He is God, identifies Himself with God, and exercises the responsibilities of God. For example, in Genesis 16:10, the Angel of the Lord says to Hagar, “I will increase your descendants so much that they will be too numerous to count.” Of course, God is the One who blesses Ishmael, but it’s the Angel of the Lord who personally makes the promise to his mother.
The same Angel of the Lord appears to Abraham and assumes the role of God, saying, “Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son” (Genesis 22:12, emphasis added ). See also Exodus 3:2; Judges 2:1-4; 5:23; 6:11-24; 13:3-22; 2 Samuel 24:16; Zechariah 1:12; 3:1; 12:8. In several passages, those who see the Angel of the Lord fear for their lives because they had “seen the Lord.” It’s clear that the Angel of the Lord was no mere angel. Viewed through the lens of the New Testament teaching of the Trinity, it’s easy to conclude that the Angel of the Lord could be a pre-incarnate appearance of Christ.
The doctrine of the Trinity finds support in the Old Testament in its descriptions of the Spirit of God:
The post-exilic Levites speak of the Spirit of God as being sent by God and speaking for God: “You also gave Your good Spirit to instruct them” (Nehemiah 9:20, NKJV); and “For many years you were patient with them. By your Spirit you warned them through your prophets” (Nehemiah 9:30). Both verses seem to make a distinction between God and another personality called the Spirit of God. See also Isaiah 48:16 and Isaiah 63:10.
The doctrine of the Trinity finds support in the Old Testament in God’s self-references:
Most of the time, God speaks of Himself using singular pronouns (e.g., Exodus 33:19; Hosea 11:9); at other times, He uses plural pronouns:
“Then God said, ‘Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness’” (Genesis 1:26, emphasis added).
“And the LORD God said, ‘The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil’” (Genesis 3:22, emphasis added).
As sinful humanity was erecting the tower of Babel, God said, “Come, let Us go down and confuse their language” (Genesis 11:7, BSB, emphasis added).
In Isaiah 6:8, God refers to Himself in both singular and plural terms: “Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, ‘Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?’” (emphasis added).
We could assume that, in each of the above passages, God is simply using the majestic plural to emphasize His power and greatness. Or we could also assume that there’s something more going on-viz., that these statements hint at discrete personalities existing as a unified whole.
The doctrine of the Trinity finds support in the Old Testament in Messianic passages:
In Psalm 110:1, David writes, “The LORD said to my Lord, ‘Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool’” (NKJV). Here is an example of Yahweh speaking to Adonai and giving Him the place of highest honor in heaven. Jesus pointed to this psalm as proof that the Christ is more than David’s descendant-He is the pre-existent Lord and much greater than David (Matthew 22:41-45).
Another Messianic prophecy is found in Psalm 45:6-7: “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. You love righteousness and hate wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.” The psalmist, addressing Elohim, suddenly speaks of “your God” who honors and anoints the Addressee.
The doctrine of the Trinity finds support in the Old Testament in the repetition of God’s qualities or His name:
In Isaiah 6:3, the angels surrounding God praise Him as being “holy, holy, holy.” The threefold repetition expresses the intensity and completeness of God’s holiness. Some scholars also infer from the angels’ words an expression of the triune nature of God, as the three Persons of the Godhead are each equal in holiness and majesty.
Similarly, we have a threefold repetition of God’s name in Numbers 6:24-26:
“The Lord bless you
and keep you;
the Lord make his face shine on you
and be gracious to you;
the Lord turn his face toward you
and give you peace.”
The blessing’s appeal to “the Lord . . . the Lord . . . the Lord” is seen by some scholars as providing a glimpse of the Trinity.
In many ways, the Old Testament gives a preview of the New Testament’s fuller revelation, including the doctrine of God as a triune Being. While the Trinity is not clearly seen in the Old Testament, there are certainly indicators of that truth.
𝚃𝚑𝚞𝚜 𝚜𝚊𝚢𝚜 𝚈𝚊𝚑𝚠𝚎𝚑, 𝚢𝚘𝚞𝚛 𝚁𝚎𝚍𝚎𝚎𝚖𝚎𝚛, 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚑𝚎 𝚠𝚑𝚘 𝚏𝚘𝚛𝚖𝚎𝚍 𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚏𝚛𝚘𝚖 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚠𝚘𝚖𝚋: "𝙸 𝚊𝚖 𝚈𝚊𝚑𝚠𝚎𝚑, 𝚠𝚑𝚘 𝚖𝚊𝚔𝚎𝚜 𝚊𝚕𝚕 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚐𝚜; 𝚠𝚑𝚘 𝐚𝐥𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝚜𝚝𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚌𝚑𝚎𝚜 𝚘𝚞𝚝 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚑𝚎𝚊𝚟𝚎𝚗𝚜; 𝚠𝚑𝚘 𝚜𝚙𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚍𝚜 𝚘𝚞𝚝 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚎𝚊𝚛𝚝𝚑 𝐛𝐲 𝐦𝐲𝐬𝐞𝐥𝐟; - 𝙸𝚜𝚊𝚒𝚊𝚑 𝟺𝟺.𝟸𝟺
Good-bye trinity.
Very well explained in this video.
Also if Jesus was God, Satan would have never tempted him by offering him the world if it already belongs to God from day one right?
Also, it says, in scripture that God has, no beginning or end however "God" Jesus DIED!
Unless he pretended to die in which makes the bible into a big joke, Satan loved that.
ah maybe Mr Rodriguez I can help you out DEUTERONOMY 6:16 DO NOT TEMPT THE LORD THY GOD AS YOU DID AT MASSAH" WHHAT WAS THAT GOD CANNOT BE TEMPTED, AND all YOU Jdubs need to read, think digest what you've read without the watchtowers filtering as the Jdubs think they got it all wrapped up in their little neat assertions that are unfounded be cause they 1 do not follow any path of logic when it comes to making sense of a triune God who like us is multi-personal" displaying in himself the relational personages defined as FATHER SON AND HOLY SPIRIT, once you can answer what a person is and how personhood is defined in the image of God then maybe just maybe you'll be on your way. Shalom
ps I know you'll come back with a smart reply but if you'd like a sincere discussion first put away all your assumptions and arguments read your Bible and then we can talk. Shalom.
GOD DID NOT DIE!. The man born of a woman died. He gave up his God-the-Son position and to die as a flesh and blood MAN with a free will, who had no inherited sin and was tempted to sin in all ways as everyone else is to get us out of this "quarantine pen" we are held in. We just have to accept what he has done for us and embrace it, or stay as we are! P.s. He is back with his Father on the Throne, alive for evermore. Thank you Apple Pie for your excellent reply.
My brother Jesus is the image of the invisible God. Which is revealed to us . which is incarcerated in Mary womb ,he is God the son flesh he comes as substitute for scrifaice as God lamb to cleaness from our sin
This is a nice video
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Amen. I don;t need to believe in a trinity to be a christian. I am saved by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ who is at the right hand of God the Father, the almighty!
man if only you lived during the time of jesus youd be what we call Muslim. no worries there's Muhammad swt who carried the same true word of jesus so come closer to gods kingdom!
@@moogeyare you deny Jesus' death and resurrection, you deny he is the son of God, you have no relationship with the father. Peace be with you.
@@moogeyare I am no muslim.
@@nazarean ahahahaha your not saying anything new to me.
According to bible god had MANY sons ahahahaha children of Israel?
You believe in a book written 100 years after Jesus death. In Greek. Jesus language was Aramaic. Your on your way to HELL if you don’t become Muslim 🫣
@@nazarean ahahahahahaha I’m not tryna flex on my subs” your a loser bro
This teaching is so encouraging! I love how you are calling Christians back to the original expressions of Jesus and the early apostles. Like you say, such Trinitarian ideas would never have been acceptable to faithful Jewish believers daily quoting the Shema, likewise confirmed in Mark 12. Nicely stated!
Meanwhile this same point could easily be made of the virgin birth as well. As the two doctrines are intimately related. Monotheism is so much more concise and clear, when not also trying to process the meaning of the details of a literal supernatural birth. All the while, neither Jesus, nor Peter, nor Paul ever mention a single word to support this supernatural nativity. Nor the gospels of Mark or John.
Each gospel seeks to make unique theological claims about Jesus. But it is quite curious how incredibly different are the details of the two birth stories from Matthew and Luke. This is our only information about a supernatural birth, and the two accounts do not agree.
Matthew’s version has Joseph and Mary living in Bethlehem and then fleeing to hide in Egypt until after Herod’s death. While Luke has the family travel briefly from their home in Nazareth and then return back right after the purification rituals 40 days later. The two stories and two time frames are obviously so completely different, they cannot both be literally true.
Anyhow, what Peter and Paul do say is that in promised fulfillment of 2 Sam 7, Jesus is the actual offspring of David “according to the flesh” (Rom 1:3, Acts 2:30). And in a Jewish patrilineal society, that is only possible if Jesus’ actual father is a son of David. Thus, is Jesus the Jewish Messiah through a virgin birth, or because as promised, he has been chosen and raised up by God from the lineage of David?
When we try to make Jesus God, either through a literal virgin birth or through Trinitarian doctrines, we lose our hold on his actual humanity and his actual relationship with God (Acts 2:22, 10:38). One could also point out how truly odd it is that Christianity simply pasted this supernatural birth event on top of a previous pagan celebration, rather than caring in the least when the actual birth of Jesus truly occurred, which according to every biblical scholar was not Dec 25.
Again, why do neither Peter nor Paul nor Jesus ever bother to breath even a single word about this supernatural birth? Nor does Jesus’ own family seem to recall any of that privileged status in the narrative of Mark (Mark 3:21).
Instead what Peter tells us is how we each have a heavenly birth through the “incorruptible seed” (sperma) of God’s Word (1 Peter 1:23). This aligns with what Jesus tells Nicodemus, how we too must be “born again” from above (John 3:3).
So perhaps the obvious contradictions in Matthew and Luke are ultimately meant to press us beyond a literal understanding of this miraculous nativity. Perhaps as new covenant believers, we are actually meant to deal with this story by the Spirit, rather than the letter (2 Cor 3:6). For as Paul tells us, we have each been betrothed and presented “as a pure virgin to Christ” (2 Cor 11:2).
Finally, no Jewish person ever imagined that Isaiah’s prophesy to King Ahaz about Isaiah’s wife giving birth to a son with a symbolic name was a prophecy related to a future virgin birth. Nor was Isaiah’s wife a virgin at the time. As Isaiah had his eldest son along with him when proclaiming that prophesy involving her next sign-bearing son (Isaiah 7:3, 8:3).
Anyhow, all that to say, revisiting the birth and Messianic lineage of Jesus is an incredibly essential component of re-examining the many developmental errors and problems in Trinitarian thought. And as long as we hold onto the idea that God literally sired Jesus, true Monotheism will continue to remain unnecessarily muddled and suspect in the minds of many believers.
Quran Chapter 4 Verse 171
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Quran Chapter 5
116. And God will say, “O Jesus son of Mary, did you say to the people, `Take me and my mother as gods rather than God?'“ He will say, “Glory be to You! It is not for me to say what I have no right to. Had I said it, You would have known it. You know what is in my soul, and I do not know what is in Your soul. You are the Knower of the hidden.
117. I only told them what You commanded me: that you shall worship God, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them while I was among them; but when You took me to Yourself, You became the Watcher over them-You are Witness over everything.
Quran Chapter 3
45. The Angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a Word from Him. His name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, well-esteemed in this world and the next, and one of the nearest.
46. He will speak to the people from the crib, and in adulthood, and will be one of the righteous.”
47. She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child, when no man has touched me?” He said, “It will be so. God creates whatever He wills. To have anything done, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.”
48. And He will teach him the Scripture and wisdom, and the Torah and the Gospel.
49. A messenger to the Children of Israel: “I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I make for you out of clay the figure of a bird; then I breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God’s leave. And I heal the blind and the leprous, and I revive the dead, by God’s leave. And I inform you concerning what you eat, and what you store in your homes. In that is a sign for you, if you are believers.”
50. “And verifying what lies before me of the Torah, and to make lawful for you some of what was forbidden to you. I have come to you with a sign from your Lord; so fear God, and obey me.”
51. “God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”
52. When Jesus sensed disbelief on their part, he said, “Who are my allies towards God?” The disciples said, “We are God’s allies; we have believed in God, and bear witness that we submit.”
53. “Our Lord, we have believed in what You have revealed, and we have followed the Messenger, so count us among the witnesses.”
54. They planned, and God planned; but God is the Best of planners.
55. God said, “O Jesus, I am terminating your life, and raising you to Me, and clearing you of those who disbelieve. And I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return; then I will judge between you regarding what you were disputing.
56. As for those who disbelieve, I will punish them with a severe punishment, in this world and the next, and they will have no helpers.
57. And as for those who believe and do good works, He will give them their rewards in full. God does not love the unjust.”
58. This is what We recite to you of the Verses and the Wise Reminder.
59. The likeness of Jesus in God’s sight is that of Adam: He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be,” and he was.
60. The truth is from your Lord, so do not be of those who doubt.
61. And if anyone disputes with you about him, after the knowledge that has come to you, say, “Come, let us call our children and your children, and our women and your women, and ourselves and yourselves, and let us invoke God’s curse on the liars.”
62. This is the narrative of truth: there is no god but God. God is the Mighty, the Wise.
63. But if they turn away-God knows the corrupt.
64. Say, “O People of the Book, come to terms common between us and you: that we worship none but God, and that we associate nothing with Him, and that none of us takes others as lords besides God.” And if they turn away, say, “Bear witness that we have submitted.”
Quran Chapter 19
In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
1. Kaf, Ha, Ya, Ayn, Saad.
2. A mention of the mercy of your Lord towards His servant Zechariah.
3. When he called on his Lord, a call in seclusion.
4. He said, “My Lord, my bones have become feeble, and my hair is aflame with gray, and never, Lord, have I been disappointed in my prayer to you.
5. “And I fear for my dependents after me, and my wife is barren. So grant me, from Yourself, an heir.
6. To inherit me, and inherit from the House of Jacob, and make him, my Lord, pleasing.”
7. “O Zechariah, We give you good news of a son, whose name is John, a name We have never given before.”
8. He said, “My Lord, how can I have a son, when my wife is barren, and I have become decrepit with old age?”
9. He said, “It will be so, your Lord says, ‘it is easy for me, and I created you before, when you were nothing.’”
10. He said, “My Lord, give me a sign.” He said, “Your sign is that you will not speak to the people for three nights straight.”
11. And he came out to his people, from the sanctuary, and signaled to them to praise morning and evening.
12. “O John, hold on to the Scripture firmly,” and We gave him wisdom in his youth.
13. And tenderness from Us, and innocence. He was devout.
14. And kind to his parents; and he was not a disobedient tyrant.
15. And peace be upon him the day he was born, and the day he dies, and the Day he is raised alive.
16. And mention in the Scripture Mary, when she withdrew from her people to an eastern location.
17. She screened herself away from them, and We sent to her Our spirit, and He appeared to her as an immaculate human.
18. She said, “I take refuge from you in the Most Merciful, should you be righteous.”
19. He said, “I am only the messenger of your Lord, to give you the gift of a pure son.”
20. She said, “How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, and I was never unchaste?”
21. He said, “Thus said your Lord, `It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign for humanity, and a mercy from Us. It is a matter already decided.'“
22. So she carried him, and secluded herself with him in a remote place.
23. The labor-pains came upon her, by the trunk of a palm-tree. She said, “I wish I had died before this, and been completely forgotten.”
24. Whereupon he called her from beneath her: “Do not worry; your Lord has placed a stream beneath you.
25. And shake the trunk of the palm-tree towards you, and it will drop ripe dates by you.”
26. “So eat, and drink, and be consoled. And if you see any human, say, ‘I have vowed a fast to the Most Gracious, so I will not speak to any human today.'“
27. Then she came to her people, carrying him. They said, “O Mary, you have done something terrible.
28. O sister of Aaron, your father was not an evil man, and your mother was not a whore.”
29. So she pointed to him. They said, “How can we speak to an infant in the crib?”
30. He said, “I am the servant of God. He has given me the Scripture, and made me a prophet.
31. And has made me blessed wherever I may be; and has enjoined on me prayer and charity, so long as I live.
32. And kind to my mother, and He did not make me a disobedient rebel.
33. So Peace is upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the Day I get resurrected alive.”
34. That is Jesus son of Mary-the Word of truth about which they doubt.
35. It is not for God to have a child-glory be to Him. To have anything done, He says to it, “Be,” and it becomes.
36. “God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”
37. But the various factions differed among themselves. So woe to those who disbelieve from the scene of a tremendous Day.
38. Listen to them and watch for them the Day they come to Us. But the wrongdoers today are completely lost.
39. And warn them of the Day of Regret, when the matter will be concluded. Yet they are heedless, and they do not believe.”
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Trinity is in (John 14:26). Read:
1 John 5:7
King James Version
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Who is "the Word"? Read:
John 1:14
King James Version
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Jesus is the Word.
John 1:1
King James Version
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Jesus Christ is the Word, God (3 in 1).
Who is the Word made flesh?
Anyone manifesting the will of the Father. The Father is the Source. The Spirit is the Breath of Inspiration. And we are the WORD made flesh, as we put on Christ, and thus EXPRESS the true nature of God in all His Divine humility, compassion, gentleness, kindness, patience, peace, joy, and love. But yes, as the Pattern Son, Jesus is definitely that as well!
This is Peter’s testimony to Cornelius:
“You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how he went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him.” (Acts 10:38)
Thus Peter’s testimony is that “God anointed him” and “God was with him.” What Peter doesn’t say is “for He was God.”
Likewise Paul taught, “There is one God, and one mediator also between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Tim 2:5).
Wow who knew that
a false teaching would be labeled " encouraging"
The rapture isnt mentioned verbatim in the Bible; it doesn't mean that it's not in the Bible;
1 John 5:7
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
John 14:26 King James Version (KJV)
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Isaiah 11:2 King James Version (KJV)
2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;
John 10:30
“I and my Father are one.
Isaiah 43:10 Isaiah 44:6 King James Version (KJV)
6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Isaiah 45:21 (KJV)
21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the Lord? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
Simple illustration of the trinity right now at this exact moment Jesus is at the right hand of the Father at this exact moment; thats two we have the Holy Spirit with us right now thsts 3 - the trinity-
Another illustration of the trinity is when jhon baptized Jesus and the Holy spirit appears as a dove; the holy spirit then leads Jesus into the wilderness
Unitarianism destroyed by this question :
1. *If God is loving God, who is God love before the creation?*
Trinity is the only answer....unitarianism is nonesense.
1 Corinthians 15:24 New Living Translation
After that the end will come, when he will turn the Kingdom over to God the Father, having destroyed every ruler and authority and power. .... Not sure how they can be the same if there is a literal transfer of power here
gostei de sua forma de raciocinar
+dmcarden
They aren't the same.
People want to claim they _are_ the same and willingly overlook the verses that show GOD *and* Jesus, in heaven TOGETHER, STILL as Father and son!
OurHumbleLife
Exactly!!!..its crazy
Deuteronomy 6:13 {The Father said worship only him}
Fear the LORD your God, serve him only and take your oaths in his
name.
Luke 4:8 {Jesus said worship only God}
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for
it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him only shalt
thou serve
Psalm 45:6 {the Holy Spirit uses this to describe God}
Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the scepter of thy kingdom
is a right scepter.
Hebrews 1:8 {the Father calls Jesus God}
But unto the Son he {God} saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and
ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom.
Hebrews 1:6 {the Father tells the angels to worship Jesus}
And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world he
{God} saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
John 20:28 {Thomas calls Jesus God}
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. { o Kurios
mou kai o Theos mou } the definite article.
Does Jesus correct Thomas? No, he calls him blessed.
Romans 9:5 {Paul calls Jesus GOD}
Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry
of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen…NIV
I Timothy 4:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was
manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached
unto the Gentiles believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Colossians 2:9
For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
John 1:1, 2,3,14 {John calls Jesus God}
In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God
was
the Word.
He was in [the] beginning with God.
All things through him came into being, and without him came into
being
not even one [thing] which has come into being.
And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us,
Matthew 1:23 (Matthew calls Jesus GOD}
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son,
and they
shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Matthew 28:17 {Apostles worship Jesus} Luke 24:52
And when they saw him, they worshiped him:
And they worshiped him.
Isaiah 7:14 {The Holy Spirit calls Jesus God}
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin
shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Revelation 1:8 22:13, 16 (The Father states he is God}
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord,
which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty.
{Jesus states he is GOD}
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the
last.
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the
churches.
Exodus 3:13-14 (the Father states he is I AM THAT I AM)
And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of
Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me
unto you; and they shall say to me, what is his name? What shall I say
unto them?
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou
say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
John 8:58 10:30-36 {John states Jesus said he is I AM}
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham
was, I AM.
In His service,
Who is the:
First and the Last,
Beginning and the end,
Alpha and Omega,
Creator of all,
Only savoir of mankind,
Has always existed,
Is Omnipresence,
Is omniscience,
Is Omnipotence,
Raised Jesus from the dead,
Dwells in all believers,
Is our Shepherd,
Speaks thru us,
Can forgive sins,
Wow, I am so glad I came across this video. Well explained, clear crystal. Everything make sense. Trinity is like 3 carriages driven by one horse. Why would God reveal something to you that you cannot understand & link it to your salvation !!! It beats my imagination how some human beings can accept the trinity and cling to it no matter how you try to reason with them.
+Zara bees AMEN and well stated brother.
Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
Genesis 18:1-3
1 And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,
3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:
God made man in HIS image, not THEIR image.
Jesus states the true God is the Father
John 17:3 “And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent."
Jesus asks why his God abandoned him
Matthew 27:46 "At about three o'clock Jesus shouted with a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" that is, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Jesus tells his disciples that he would be going to their God and his God
John 20:17 "Jesus *said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.’”
In Revelation Jesus states he hadn't found his followers deeds completed in the sight of his God.
Revelation 3:2 "‘Be constantly alert, and strengthen the things that remain, which were about to die; for I have not found your deeds completed in the sight of My God."
Jesus states the one who overcomes he would make a pillar in the temple of his God.
Revelation 3:12 "‘The one who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will not go out from it anymore; and I will write on him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God, and My new name."
@Flipssss You're quoting 1 Tim 3:16 from the KJV. Modern translations do not read, "God" at 1 Timothy 3:16. Trinitarians make this particular claim by quoting only from the King James Version reading of this verse. Despite the fact that scholars agree that the KJV reading is a certain corruption.
Now because this verse is known to be a scribal error, contemporary Trinitarian Greek scholars, who have access to numerous manuscripts, have not been able to perpetuate this error any longer into English translations, despite the passions of some who desire the word "God" to appear in this verse at the expense of truth. Let us look at some of the major translations of this passage and note how Trinitarian Greek scholars themselves acknowledged the scribal error:
"He appeared in a body" (NIV)
"He who was manifested in the flesh" (ASV)
"He who was revealed in the flesh" (NASB)
"He was manifested in the flesh" (RSV)
"Which was manifested in the flesh" (Douey-Rheims)
"Who was manifested in the flesh" (NAB)"
The historical evidence indicates the word "God" was not there before the fifthe century. The manuscript evidence indicates the word "God" was not in the original text. All objections based on grammatical and theological grounds are nothing but vain babblings. Christ is the mystery in question which is why the passage should read, "great is the mystery of godliness who/which was manifested in flesh, justified in spirit..." The passage reads smoothly and makes total sense with the rest of Scripture by using either the word "who" or "which" or "that" instead of the word "God" which is an obvious error or forgery. The Douey-Rheims and NAB translations obviously have it right.
"Great is the mystery of godliness which/who was manifested in flesh."
@Flipssss There are 217 translations of the verse John 1:1. So 43 translations have John 1:1 translated as a god or divine being. The other 174 have John 1:1 translated as was God. This verse is basically a grammar debate. I find it interesting.
John 1:1 (A Liberal Translation of the New Testament (E. Harwood 1768) "Before the origen of this world exifted the LOGOS - who was then with the supreme God - and was himfelf a divine perfon."
John 1:1 (American Translation, An (Goodspeed & Smith) "In the beginning the Word existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was divine."
John 1:1 (Archbishop Newcome’s New Testament, Improved Version 1809) "The Word was in the beginning, and the Word was with God and the Word was a god."
John 1:1 (Authentic New Testament (Schonfield)) "In the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with God. So the Word was Divine."
John 1:1 (Barclay New Testament) "When the world began, the Word was already there. The Word was with God, and the nature of the Word was the same as the nature of God."
When you look at the context of the NT. You see that the 43 translations accurately translate it be "a god" or "divine being"
In the Greek this is: En arche en ho logos, kai ho logos en pros ton theon, kai theos en ho logos. The Greek sentence ends with the crucial words: kai theos en ho logos (“and god was the Word”). We are concerned here with the Greek noun theos (“god”) written without the definite article. This contrasts with the first mentioning of this noun expressed by ton theon, the accusative case of ho theos (“the God”), i.e., the noun theos preceded by the definite article ho.
In this verse, reference is made to God and the Logos, not to three beings. When John 1:1 refers to the Word as “god,” there is really no basis for concluding that he is the second person of a triune deity
So John 1:14 shows Jesus came in the flesh but a deep study of the original language of John 1:1 you'll find it does not state that Word is God but the word is a divine being that came in flesh.
Notice Paul states the Father is the only True God.
1 Corinthians 8:6 "yet for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him."
Interestingly Paul says that Jesus is the first born of all creation.
Colossians 1:15 "The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation."
It shows Jesus had a beginning.
Also Paul shows that Jesus and Yahweh are completely different entities.
1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,"
Notice the scriptures say God is not a man or a son of man.
Numbers 23:19 “God is not a man, that He would lie, Nor a son of man, that He would change His mind; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?"
Hosea 11:9 "I will not carry out My fierce anger; I will not destroy Ephraim again.
For I am God and not a man, the Holy One in your midst, And I will not come in wrath."
@Flipssss I probably shouldn't have used the word corrupted but poorly translated. An example would be 1 John 5:7-8 often referred to as the Johannine Comma.
Part two
John 43
The following day Jesus wanted to go to Galilee, and He found Philip and said to him, “Follow Me.”
44Now Philip was from Bethsaida, the city of Andrew and Peter.
45Philip found Nathanael and said to him, “We have found Him of whom Moses in the law, and also the prophets, wrote-Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.”
46And Nathanael said to him, “Can anything good come out of Nazareth?” Philip said to him, “Come and see.” 47Jesus saw Nathanael coming toward Him, and said of him, “Behold, an Israelite indeed, in whom is no deceit!”
48
Nathanael said to Him, “How do You know me?” Jesus answered and said to him, “Before Philip called you, when you were under the fig tree, I saw you.”
49
Nathanael answered and said to Him, “Rabbi, You are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!”
50Jesus answered and said to him, “Because I said to you, ‘I saw you under the fig tree,’ do you believe? You will see greater things than these.”
51And He said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, hereafterj you shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of Man.”
1:48-50 What exactly occurred under the fig tree is not stated. St. John Chrysostom teaches this was the meeting place of Philip and Nathanael (vv. 45, 46), and that Jesus was praising Nathanael for being so diligent and careful in His search for the Messiah. Christ’s foreknowledge and His ability to see into Nathanael’s heart stir him to this confession of faith (v. 49).
1:51 The title Son of Man is a title of the Messiah that had a level of mystery in its meaning, indicating a man of heavenly origin who would usher in the Kingdom of God (Dan 7:13, 14). In an OT prophecy, Jacob dreamed of a ladder connecting earth to heaven, upon which the angels
of God were ascending and descending (Gn 28:12-15). Jesus is this “ladder” who unites earth to heaven, and therefore is this Son of Man.
In his Gospel, John gives a specific and definitive explanation of who Christ is. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (1:1). John the Baptist, the Forerunner of Christ, revealed God the Word as “the Light” (1:7). “The Word became flesh and dwelt among us” (1:14). Who then is Jesus Christ?
1. He is God, for He was with God from before all time. Clearly, the One born Jesus of Nazareth did not have His beginning in His earthly birth. Rather, He is the eternal Son of God, without beginning. There never was a time when the Son of God did not exist.
2. He is also man, for He “became flesh.” He has become one of us, being like us in all things, but without sin.
3. He acts both as God and as man, doing what is appropriate for each nature in the unity provided by His one divine Person. Never does divine nature and activity become changed into human nature and activity. The two are in union without confusion. Christ does, however, “energize” human nature with divine energy so that human nature is redeemed from sin and death and brought into union with God. He thus “deifies” humanity.
The miracle of these incomparable truths is known as the knowledge of Christ or “Christology.” Many documents have expounded on Christology, but the definitive text is the Nicene Creed, the outcome of the first and second Ecumenical Councils in the fourth century. The Creed of Chalcedon (issued by the Fourth Ecumenical Council, AD 451) embodies other truths concerning the Incarnation of the Word. These creeds set the doctrinal fences outside of which we do not wander in our knowledge of Christ.
The apostle John bears witness to Christ: “That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life-the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us-that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ” (1Jn 1:1-3).
We, too, bear witness to Jesus Christ. For since God became man, and we are united with Him in baptism, we experience His Incarnation in our lives. The miracle of Christology for us is that, as the Son of God became man, we in turn may participate in God.
Concerning John 20:24-29 The doubt of Thomas is described in the Church hymns as “blessed,” for it was not a doubt of resistance to truth, but one that desperately desired a truthful answer-a “doubt which gave birth to faith” when the answer was revealed. In hymns of the Church, Christ says to Thomas, “Your doubt will teach My Passion and Resurrection to all,” and we affirm that his doubt “brought the hearts of believers to knowledge.” The conversion of Thomas’ doubt into faith led him to the clearest confession of Christ’s divinity, addressing Jesus as my Lord and my God (v. 28).
What happened when Jesus was baptized?
That's easy. The heavens opened up and God's holy spirit (his active force) rested upon Jesus' shoulder, taking the form of a white dove. The reason God transformed his active force into a dove was for John's sake (John 1:32-34) And Yahweh declared out of heaven that Jesus was His Son and that he is the Messiah.
@@patrickpettyjr.2487 how beautiful that must have been for John to witness that and to hear Jehovahs voice
@@AstariahJW
Indeed, John was witnessing Jehovah's Messiah and the savior of mankind.
GOD Almighty or the LORD has revealed his name to us
Isaiah 42:8 says
I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, nor my praise to graven images.
John 17:5 tells us Jesus shared glory with the Father
@@jesusisjehovah Simply because JESUS of the new testament is JEHOVAH of the old testament. JEHOVAH (THE WORD) was made flesh. GOD (JEHOVAH) was manifested in the flesh as our LORD JESUS. HE is GOD in flesh. Not "a" GOD in flesh nor one of the personas of GOD in flesh. HE is GOD in flesh. Now GOD being manifested in the flesh doesn't mean that GOD was no longer in heaven. Let's not put HIM in a box. GOD is OMNIPRESENT. HE can be in heaven and at the same time in flesh to fulfill the prophecy. JESUS CHRIST (meaning GOD in FLESH) is called the SON of GOD because HE came from GOD. The SPIRIT of GOD came upon Mary and she bore a CHILD. HE is the IMAGE of the INVISIBLE GOD. To put this into conclusion, GOD the ALMIGHTY was manifested in the FLESH called the CHRIST. When GOD was called FATHER by the LORD JESUS, it was when HE was speaking in FLESH and was calling out to GOD in heaven (WHO is actually present everywhere).
The reason by seeing the Word of God as God is because The Father might do His miraculous Spiritual work at the speed of Light(God is Light) through seeing the word and believing the word. So The only thing in The Way from Knowing God is The Shape of The Letters, so since leters are just shapes, they are also just expressions. And To know God he would have to express himself to us even without the word. The Word of God is God amen
No man comes to God but by His word. And no man knows the whole father, but through His spirit, The Holy Spirit, We have a knowledge of God. The Only way to The Holy Spirit is through the word of God. And Since Letter/word is at the speed of Ligth/expression in the name of The Father, The Scripture that speaks on That there are three that bare witness in heaven, The Father, The Word, and The Holy Spirit and these three are one. This scripture makes sense. But I dont believe that this teaches the trintiy. I made a new vdeio on this.
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God may also say..."I AM THE MOST MERCIFUL", I AM THE ALMIGHTY...does that meant God saying 'Merciful or Almighty' is his name...doenst make any sense..ohhh by the way..the meaning of jehovah is...I am That I Am...is not his name...just only a reference to show his divinity! So what is the actual NAME of God...in hebrew dictionary,Eloah is used as a name or a word for God..which shares the same meaning of Allah in Arabic!
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@@jeckcovers8645 then according to u God is still one but take different form and exist in three form at the same time..(listen to yourself)..then when God (jesus) died are the rest persons of the Trinity still living?
Another key giveaway is that not only do people that believe in the trinity have to use a lot of let’s say abstract explaining, but they all use the same 2 or 3 quotes, most notably 1 John 5:7. But not only can that quote be debunked, but there are literally hundreds of quotes that support the monotheistic God belief.
That verse is 1 John actually destroys their lie , not sure why they wanna use it , ARE one and IN one are two entirely different meanings , and that's why it says ARE one .
If I give you three titles that apply to me and say these three ARE one , would it then make sense to assume I'm three people ... If I witness a car accident and get covered with glass and then say , there are three that bare record of the accident , my mind , my senses , my emotions , does that mean I all of a sudden become three people? That verse is horrible for them and I don't know why they use it , it's not a good verse , they are better off using the baptism or Jesus praying to the spirit , not that it helps them when dealing with God's chosen sons , but , it makes more sense to use than that verse .
It must be a little concerning when you have so many Muslims commenting on your video and agreeing with you 😬
Thanks for this, the truth has nothing to fear. The trinity is simply not found in the Bible. It's sad so many prople are so captive of a wrong doctrine.
You just ignore scripture.
Jacob called the Angel of the Lord Elohim in gen 48:15-16. That's Jesus.
You can also find YHVH being sent by YHVH in Zec 2:8-13
Research "The angel of the Lord".
This is an OT secret revealed only to those worthy of the kingdom, not people who read the bible less than 20 seconds a day.
The Trinity Doctrine makes void the love of YHWH for His Son and makes void Jesus' love for the Father as a "child of God/offspring". If Jesus the Son of God YHWH is our ONLY example to follow, then we should walk the path in which he Jesus pointed to; the Way back to the One True God. Jesus warned us about others that would come in his name and truly the Trinity Doctrine is about a "different Jesus".
Umm...Jesus pointed to Himself throughout the whole NT. Have you ever actually read it? I am the way the truth and the life. -Jesus
+Haukmann66 - Jesus claimed to be the way to Whom?
He claimed to be the way to the Father of course! He and the Father are one. Very easy. For a man to point to himself, as the way to God, is blasphemy according to the jews. That's, as the jews said, making himself God. Why can't you see that?
+Kevin Hauk - Yes, Christ is the only way to the Father. He made this claim while never making the claim that He WAS the Father. He and the Father have the same purpose. That does not make Jesus God, as you and the Jews who 'killed' Him and anyone else without the Holy Spirit claims.
Boy you are obtuse. Trinitarians never claimed Jesus was the father. Get it right. John 1:1. Nuff said. You cannot disprove this, nor even answer the question that has been asked of you so many times. Which is very telling. Who did Isaiah see?
Thank You! It is hard to find truth these days! I believe in God Alone. I was raised a Christian but, I can read too! Nice Work! God Bless!
Allah the only one God and jesus is Allah prophet read quran you find real truth about jeaus
I don’t see how this is hard for the rest of other denominations to grasp. It is so simple. Jesus is not God. This doesn’t take away from Jesus being the Messiah and the importance of his teaching and his divinity.
Isaiah 45: 5
I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
John 20: 17
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Come on you guys its obvious, the Father is the only true God (John 17:3).
Let's compare
The Trinity
1. The Bible never teaches it
2. It doesn't make any sense
3. The Jews, of whom our Lord and savior Jesus is, never heard about it (Would Paul have encountered difficulty in telling His fellow Jews about a Trinity? Of course he would!)
4. It causes all kinds of problems
5. Would the God who loved us so much to send His Son really not tell us the very first thing about Himself? I think he did Mk 12:28-34
vs. One God & One Lord
1. Thousands of scriptures referring to the Father as God as distinct from Jesus our Lord
2. Makes total sense
3. Historically believable for early Jewish audience
4. Has the power to win believers back as we can end the fighting and unite under "One God and Father of all who is above all and through all and in all" Eph 4:6
Seriously Mk 12:28-34!
John 17:3 doesn't prove the Unitarian position.
"You, the only true God"
This phrase indicates three things:
1. The Father is God
2. There is only one God
3. God is true.
If you look at what the Trinity teaches, everything is the exact same.
The Trinity also teaches:
1. The Father is God.
2. There is only one God.
3. God is true.
So let me ask you, where, in John 17:3, does the contradiction exist?
And about your references to Mark 12:28-34, your argument falls apart when you realize there is not a single piece of evidence that indicates Jews were Unitarians.
ChristianMetalFan100 Very Goo Point, Jews believe in Elohim the world Elohim is Plural. and many Biblical Verses indicate Jews ware Monotheistic Polytheist For example Psalm 82:1 A psalm of Asaph. God has taken His place in the divine assembly; He judges among the gods.
ChristianMetalFan100 Cmon seriously there is no piece of evidence suggesting the Jews were Unitarians? Even in Mk 12 what does the man say - "You are right teacher , you have truly said that 'HE is one, and besides HIM there is no other" So obviously the "Him" is the Father; one person and not three. And your sad breakup of John 17:3 argument is. Even in John 5:44 it says the same thing, Jesus tells us to seek glory from "the one who alone is God". Notice once again it is the Father. Seriously how many times and how many ways must this be said?
Gabriel Sosa Weak point, and now we are accusing the Jews of Polytheism? Seriously, how far do we have to go to protect this? "Monotheistic-Polytheist"? That's like saying "Vegan-Carnivores"!! Just come and believe in what Paul says, that there is only "one God and Father of all" Eph 4:6.
Seriously you guys, you can end the fighing by simply acknowledging the "King of the ages, immortal, invisible, the only God" 1 Tim 1:17 Give Him the glory just as Jesus did!
Matthew Graham The He and Him that the Jew was referring was the God of Deuteronomy 6:4, which you can't prove was the Father exclusively.
John 5:44 doesn't help you either. There is only one God. Both in Unitarianism and Trinitarianism.
Plus, you NEVER addressed the evidence I gave you, nor did you address my rebuttal of John 17:3.
I agree with Ephesians 4:6.
We are acknowledging the King, you aren't. Jesus said in John 5:23 to honor him in the exact same way you honor the Father. You honor the Father as God, thus you must also honor Jesus as God. Which is something you do not do.
Your last point is what got me to look into this subject years ago. After many hours of studying, I left the trinity camp. It is a RC false doctrine.
The reformation didn't go far enough to teardown all the RC idols including the trinity. Luther liked his mysteries.
How non-Trinity Christians explain Jesus’ own words in John 17:5, “Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began”?
Jesus was in heaven with His own GOD and Father prior-to coming to earth.
How about it? It refer that Jesus Christ is God's Firstborn of All Creation Collossians 1:15.
Why people disliked this video? Everything he said makes perfect sense.
No it doesn't
If it makes sense to you then you ain't using the sense of God
@@Kaden_Smith242 you couldn't explain the Trinity if you tried. It's pure gibberish. Even the trinitarians admit they don't know what they're talking about.
@@bobpolo2964 the trinity doesn’t make sense