"We're Married in God's Eyes...No License Needed!"
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- Episode #199
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The state birth certificate became "law" in 1933.
Who says we are born... Who gave us life?
Nowhere does it say we need to have a birth certificate issued.
The state marriage licence became "law" in 1935.
Who says we are married... Who says two become one?
Nowhere does it say that we need a marriage license to be joined together as husband and wife.
Yet, we follow this why? Indoctrination!
The government wants money and control... hence the serial number. We are owned. We are their slaves.
They give "tax perks" so we do what they say.
The I R S is a fraud... unscriptural and unconstitutional in every way.
i agree , marriage is a god given right, obtaining a marriage license from the government is basically saying they gave you permission to marry and them refusing to give you permission to marry is an option.
Marriage is a god given right which is ordained by god through government aka his authority stop trying to find exeptions for your little boyfriends you really love and want to fornicate with
@@Alexander-hh1yt im not im looking for Guidance because at this point my fiance doesn't have an id and can't get one because of legal reasons and we can't get a marriage license but we both are in love and have been trying to figure out what we could do to get married
I think the opposite bc there is a licence for divorce in the bible then u must have a license for marriage. What will happen if ur woman decides to find other man ?, then she is not longer ur wife then? U don't need a licence for divorce and go to the next woman?
When u marry someone u submit to one onother and all of the deeds become one just like in spirit.
Also the orthodox Church claims in
Romans 13
1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
So I believe if in ur country the government states that a man and a woman are married through a certificate then its a sin to God .
And the way God intended marriage is in church and a priest I believe.
@@pitbull-ig9nm the Bible also mentions civil disobedience when the government gets out of like say when 2 people with the same parts want to be seen as married, our government is not one of God but of satan, secondary Jesus also said render onto Ceaser the things of Ceaser and God the things of God meaning the government's place is only for civil matters not ones of God, marriage is between the church and God not the government so no we don't need a government document that let's them steal more of our money. Hard pass.
The government does NOT say that if you want to be married you HAVE to get a license. The license is only if you want the government to RECOGNIZE your marriage. Marriage is an institution created by God not the government. The vows are made to God not the government.
Yes that is correct. It is to keep record. But living together and filing separate taxes as your single is wrong. People do it everyday to get government funding and whatever else they can. It doesn't make it okay. That's why we must abide by the law. If it weren't so then we wouldn't have it set in place. If in the Bible there needed to be a letter of divorce by a higher priest then a letter or certified from a higher authority is also needed today.
A piece of paper cannot hold together that which God did not join; and a piece of paper cannot tear apart what God has joined. Praise God for His mercy.
Okay so my question is this for anyone who is listening if the marriage laws accept gay marriage which is most definitely against God should my fiancé and I get a license or not im trying to please my father and am a newfound Christian so I don't know these things and am asking for guidance
I totally understand how you feel so I don’t think it right if the government says it’s ok that gays can get married so I think it Dominic and I think if we have say we are married and wear rings and we don’t cheat then how are we not married in gods eyes
@@starlynliles678 Hello, did you ever have this question resolved?
@@CAHiredGun no I didn’t
@@starlynliles678 Aulani, I believe that you and your fiancée would be perfectly fine getting a marriage license.
We know from the Bible that we are to obey the law of the land and government authorities, right down to paying our taxes (Luke 20:22-25, Romans 13:1-7, Titus 3:1, 1 Peter 2:13-17). Keep in mind that these Scriptures were originally written to the Christians living under a pagan and oppressive Roman government. Unless obeying the government would directly cause you to disobey God (as when the Roman Empire began demanding that Christians sacrifice to pagan gods later in history), then you are okay in following the laws of earthly rulers.
In this case, you are not seeking a marriage license for the purpose of having a gay marriage. You would be seeking it in order to marry between a man and woman as God intended, while obeying something that the laws of your earthly authority asks you to do that does not contradict God, which is also something God wants you to do in order to live peaceably.
I hope this helped. God bless you both
I asked the woman I love to marry me, she said yes. I gave her a ring, we had a ceremony, we wrote up vows and pledged them to each other, and then had the certificate signed by witnesses. We have since had 3 kids in the last 10 years BUT because of our belief that the governments definition of marriage is far different from God's we chose not to apply for a state marriage license. The Bible does not say you have to ask the state for permission, marriage has been established by God, and it is not breaking the law to not get a marriage license so we are not defying the powers that be. If Christians are going to go down the road of saying we have to obey the powers that be (in light of Romans 13) then they have to accept gay marriage and divorce for unbiblical reasons. I certainly don't think it is wrong to get a license but I don't think it is required by God. The Bible gives clear guidelines for marriage, follow those and you're married.
awesome I agree
John Jordan RIGHT! RAY COMFORT IS BOUGHT OFF! WHATS NEXT? A LICENSE FOR SALVATION? OH, AND CAN I HAVE A SIDE OF BAPTISM WITH THAT?
The mark of the beast ..no salvation unless you bow to the Christ(anti)
God knows our hearts. If you avoid a license because you think it will make it easier to leave, etc. For you and your wife, you are probably married by "common law" anyway, if one of you wanted to leave, you would still have to go thru a legal process to divide your assets, decide custody, etc. You live as married, your intention was to be married til death, you are married.
John Jordan obey the law of the land
Me and my wife paid $80 for our marriage license and got married by our pastor at the time at our church for free. Getting married is not expensive getting a divorce is expensive.
I think Ray has missed the point on this issue. If a Christian does not _want_ to have a government contract giving them _permission_ to be married, then there is nothing wrong with that. Marriage belongs to God, not the government. It's not about how easy it is to get a license, or how much it costs. That is a straw man argument. The point is that marriage existed long, long before the government, and the government has no authority over it. And you can't drag Romans 13 into this either because the US government is not the "true authority" over a Christian anyway, because the government does not recognize ITS authority, which is God.
Also, a marriage license does not make a marriage covenant. Same-sex licenses are proof of that. Just because the government says you are married does not mean God considers you married. Conversely, you can be truly married without a government marriage license. It has NOTHING to do with fornication. It has to do with a life commitment before God to enter into the bonds of marriage with this one person, for life. People have been doing this for thousands of years without government licenses. God's rules do not change. So yes, Ray is wrong in this video.
***** It's a slippery slope with Romans 13. There are lots of governments where you can be punished just for being a Christian. Romans 13 _describes_ authorities which are legitimate. It says that they reward those who do good and punish those who do evil. If your government does the opposite, Romans 13 is not talking about them.
Recon.777 That's right.
... these guys would submit to the mark under this thinking.
@@shinbo010 no they wouldnt.
Christians should obey the government, UNTIL it violates GODs commandments.
So as long as a specific rule is not against GOD, we should obey it, to obey, what GOD sais.
SEEKJESUSJOHN316
You’re wrong. You should study this subject more
Marriage is from God not Man
What do you think that ppl in later times did? They had a ceremony with 2 witnesses and all sign a family bible. Marriage license were not required till about 1935. My great grandparents did this...government should not be involved at all. Marriage is ordained by God. You don't need the state's permission.
Susan U. Amen
Amen
@@MaryAllenjj Not exactly Romans 13:1-3KJV. If mans laws don't transcend Gods laws then you have to do it. Plus you can just get married by the justice of the peace.
@@MaryAllenjj Remember what Jesus said about taxes Mark 12:17KJV and the other verses I sent. You're disobeying God and the government. 2 wrongs don't make a right.
@@MaryAllenjj Not my words, Gods words. So if you ignore that you're not married. Also the example you're setting is bad one.
U dont need government approval to be married
So you don't need to follow the law either?
What you saying makes sense why it doesn't make total sense we need to the government
Says in the Bible you should follow governing laws as long as it doesn't fall off the word of God then it's approved by the Lord our Father.
@@andrewalves92 that’s not what that verse meant at all, when you get a marriage license your marrying the state and spouse, that’s polygamy
@@andrewalves92the government absolutely doesn’t follow the word of god and most are satanists on sheep clothing. You just made the argument better for not including the government when commuting a relationship to god
Fyi, You can get legally married by signing your family Bible. On the DS 11 U.S. Passport application form family, bible records are accepted as legal documents. They also accept a Bible record for the birth of a child.
That's interesting I haven't heard of that. Do you just wright your names or something?
@@DiscreetRoyalty write*
Good to know. Thank you.
@@DiscreetRoyalty Yes.
Facts.... my granny had a family bible... I still have it, but that's been In effect for years... especially in the history of the African Americans..and the churches because we were not allowed to get married...the pastor and the weds would sign and date the bible... that goes along with jumping the broom
Men are tired of being screwed by the divorce and family courts. Make the laws equal !!! The marriage ratd id falling !
I love you guys and appreciate what you do for the Kingdom of God.
However, I disagree with your comments, the government has NO authority in people’s relationship, that certificate of marriage does not enforce or makes marriage real because marriage is the first institution God paraded to mankind, the government institution is very new.
I think in my opinion people should make their own choice wether they want a certificate or not.
I come from Africa, some people who live in villages with no access to government certificate, they get married traditionally.
So government has No legal authority in people’s relationship.
@@Amber_Aviva no admitting to God and being in his eyes while doing the marriage recitals is marriage in God's eyes
@@Amber_Aviva wedding without signing a marriage license. What's the problem?
I agree Reverend!
You do whatever your laws say to do. We are to abide by the law. If there is no law saying you don't need a license then so be it but if there is, then as a Bible believing person we must follow the law. The certificate isn't to join you together under God, the pastor leads in that but it is more political but non the less, we are to do as it says.
We shouldnt have to have a piece of paper from the government saying we can or can not be married. Is that not the reason for the seperation between church and state, if we are married in the eyes God thats all we need.
Bsby we don't have a piece of paper
Amen
A marriage "license" has nothing to do with religion, no more than a fishing, hunting, or business license does. A marriage license and commitment to the marriage are two entirely separate things.
Quite the contrary. The state also claims the authority to allow or prohibit fundamental rights to fish, hunt, trap, even garden. In fact, although its assertion of authority to issue or deny an application for a marriage license is among the easiest to obtain, it is the most insidious and perfidious of them because it trespasses upon the very most sacred aspect of human life second only to one's individual duty to God.
The state shouldn’t be concerned with your personal religious beliefs.
I think you guys may have missed the point of the question. The question wasn't "Should you get a certificate?" but "Can you be married without a certificate?" I believe you should get a certificate, but if you didn't and you still made the vows with witnesses before God then yes you are married and sex would not be fornication at that point.
exactly. now they say why do u need a divorce but not a marriage certificate lol back in the old days until the last 100 years its been that way in jewish u had a paper only for divorce not marriage got to love these guys don't even sounds christian the way they act this show seems so bad.
Thanks for that i think they missed the point as well,cause what if there are circumstances that prevent a legal marriage....I wanna get married before God
@@thomaslb95 divorce is not allowed in the eyes of God
@@305mahks5 it's allowed only for one reason" cheating"
@@beckythehustler2981 not in scripture though.
Gen 24:67 Then Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah’s tent, and he took Rebecca and she became his wife, and he loved her
were is the license
Freedom Fighters what if the guy says you aren’t married and blocks you on everything
@@Amber_Aviva well Genesis 2:24 is specific that you live together..
Luke yes I know that scripture, but I would like it if there was more clarification...like an elementary explanation
It is also written: Where there is no law, there is no trangression.
Ok...show me from Scripture (in context) where God says that we need a piece of paper from the Government to show we are married. (Crickets)...
Certifications should come from ur local Church leaders. No laws are broken by A church only Marriage. The States have become sinfully corrupt, and will damage you in a divorce even if ur weren’t the cause of the marriage being broken. States that marry pigs with men, men with men, women with women, should have no parts in a Christian marriage. Christ wanted us to take our issues before the church and the elders to settle our disputes and shamed us for going to the worldly courts and yet we run to them for the most holy communions of marriage
My friend suggested that, to save money, it's possible to get married in the middle of a church service. Half way through the service, just say "X and Y" are getting married, and they can exchange their vows, and carry on with the service as usual, like how many churches do baptisms. Afterwards, catering (optional) can be done by subway or someone else that's relatively affordable.
I personally believe marriage licences are overrated (and possibly unnecessary), but it's definitely a good idea to do something public and before church leadership.
I can’t get married bc I’m paraplegic, I lose my SSDI and insurance benefits that I need to live. So, in my case I really can’t have the certificate of marriage. What do I do to please God?
I don't need a license and I don't need some jackass politician to tell me I am or am not married.
Bobby Montagna Yeah.
This question came from Texas Which the law allows common law marriage. So by committing yourself to each other in front of God and a group of people you do not have to have a license (which is asking permission from the government). Which back before the government started asking for a marriage license this was common practice in America.
Ray/Living Waters, please do more reading, both of the Bible and of the laws of this land. Not just the obvious, but the deeper meanings of both.
Marriage is valid in gods eyes when two agree and make there wedding vows regardless what faith there in its a covenant for life for all humanity
Dont u need witness ?
@@sonicword3442
As long as God has witnessed it, no. For mankind, yes. After all, the Godhead is 3-in-1, and makes 3 witnesses on His own.
@@glintoflightonbrokenglass9473 John 4:24 God is a Spirit not a person and God is God alone. Read Deut 6:4, read Deut 32:39, give me bible, chapter & verse where it states 'God the Father, God the Son & God the Holy Ghost'... Godhead means God's divine nature go check the 1611 definition and the greek concordance of kjv ( colossians 2:9 )
the trinity is a lie. not biblical at all. read the word my brother. much blessings, have a great evening or night 👊🏾❤️
When I was a teenager I agreed to "be married" to my online boyfriend. We Never had a ceremony, or told anybody, and never actually married. Now we are broken up. Does this count as a marriage?
@@ServingYAHUAH Matthew 28:19 “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit…”
I feel like many people in the comments are missing the point that is being made in this video. Here is what I get. Shacking up is fornication. If you have had witnesses and exchange of vows privately, that is a marriage that God recognizes. At the same time, you need to have a marriage that is also recognized in your social setting. A Christian is Christ's ambassador, therefore, it matters whether other people besides yourself recognize your marriage as a marriage. You need to be able to say "Yes, I am married" whether that question is by a relative who would recognize your private arrangement or whether it's a government official who needs to make a determination whether or not you are a married couple in which case he would base it on a marriage certificate. Please don't be so hell-bent on defending fornication and/or being so fiercely independent that you are a terrible Christ's ambassador.
Christians who insist on being FIERCELY INDEPENDENT will struggle to follow Jesus in the way He says to follow Him. The reason David was a man after God's heart was that he was so very dependent on God. If you read the Psalms, you will see this about David. Fierce independence is such a huge problem for an American - it is the root of narcissism and feminism, both of which have no place in the kingdom of God. Humility, on the other hand, is how you become a man/woman after God's heart. Moses was the most powerful prophet and the meekest man on earth. Jesus is meek. Ponder that a while...
Thanks this is really understanding
I once married a bigamist and didn't know til after the divorce. I married my recently deceased husband with a m. license, a registrar, in our living room, with a few close friends and family, had dinner, a cake and bubbly. The clothing were from a nice consignment shop and the whole thing cost us under $300.00. It's about the marriage commitment and not about the wedding.
I believe all it takes is VOWS to get married. The government has no business making you pay for something that God offers for free.
That said, there are benefits to getting the government's papers; so I don't think there's anything wrong with getting them.
Luke Elms~ As long as they make vows, I agree. :-)
+Great Awakening Medi A VOW between a couple and GOD is indeed just that. The responsibility of caring for each other, even if they part goes with that vow, and license has no bearing on what is to be done right before God. Some judge could come along grant a divorce in a "licensed" marriage and it wont even be right before GOD if it does not match what the bible says. THIS video is kind of making the law a GOD by saying you have to fall to the courts to be told what is right before God in marital issues if ever going before court. IT may help to have legal protections...but some legal decisions are not even godly at all. VOW before GOD is the ultimate weight of what a couple is. If a couple is not rightly joined as a couple license or not, then not even GOD will accept the marriage as valid. A license does NOT make a marriage valid..GOD does.
Missi's Channel~ Totally agree!
Yes, Joyce L. A private vow is still made in the presence of God. To say that only vows made before man are binding is to put man's witness above God's witness.
That said, it is wise and prudent to have some other people present to testify to the vow, in case there's ever the need for that.
You too!
Marriage is a BOTH private AND social institution. Whatever the necessary steps are required in order for the society to officially recognize the couple as married must be taken. In any culture or language the concept of being married is clearly present. The Christian's answer to the question: "Are you married?" should be a direct "yes" or "no", not a "yes, but..." or "not really".
Your so right
Who cares what society says? Society says abortion is fine. Society says gay marriage is fine.
Society doesn’t know anything.
It’s opinion has no value compared to God.
How I see it.... Who has the actual ability to marry a couple? Anyone can get ordained online and legally perform the ceremony but according to the Bible, that’s not the actual part of getting “married.” The marriage takes place because Gods temple is in each of us and it’s the union, the commitment, the 3 uniting together in promise that seals the marriage. Obviously, the government license is not a biblical marriage, just a state marriage legally binding the couple together. So WHO performs the marriage isn’t significant because it’s God who seals the commitment with his approval and presence in each of us. So why can a couple not look each other in the eyes and each promise to put God first, to fully love and support each other, and every other vow of importance and ask God to approve their marriage through those words???
I am not legally married. But I call him my husband. 10 years ago we promised love, commitment, and a home built with our Fathers foundation. We have 2 boys together and live our life as if we are legally married. We do plan to legalize our marriage because I want to take his name but that’s the only reason. Weddings are beautiful but it’s seen as expected in today’s world with so much focus on money. Diamonds don’t make a man a Godly husband... it’s how he provides and protects the family, it’s how he can be strong, and then when needed gentle and compassionate...it’s how he loves his wife, it’s how he raises his kids, it’s how he trusts God to guide his decisions.
Jesus said we are not of the world. We are strangers in a foreign land. Than earthly customs do not apply. The sanctity of marriage I believe comes from faith in God and trust in your partner.
Would someone please answer for me,
How do we get married in the eyes of God only without papers?
What is the law of God with divorce without papers. What does the Bible say?
I would just go about it like you normally would. Have a pastor marry you, have the ceremony, just like a government wedding. But just don't sign the papers. Simple
The government has no right to force people to have any licence, as they are rights, fishing, hunting traping marriage, those are rights that have been striped from us and licenced back to free people. Driver's licence are in that same bag but everyone who has one will defend the licence, as they have conformed unto this world. In many of the marriages in the Bible there weren't Evan any pastor or service.
Do not conform to this world, even if a pastor says so.
I like Ray's respond, "it doesn't make sense" hahahahahaha
a license is a request for permission from the government to get married. That started earlier in american history, when a man and woman from different ethnic groups (races wanted to marry, say a caucasian man wanted to marry a african american woman, like after the civil war ended, the man and woman had to request permission from the U.S government , the license was that request and permission. Who we marry is between the two people, the man and woman in question their families and God, it's not the governments place to have any part in that decision . People were getting married without licensees for thousands of years before this idea came out. it's a fairly modern thing. Someone can correct me if i'm mistaken
You are correct
the real point is the commitment you make to each other, for life, to the exclusion of all others. The idea is to make the commitment publicly, because the society is also involved- hence the state passes laws that regulate marriage. This, by the way, is why we Christians recognize marriages done in non-church situations, says at the marriage registry, or marriages conducted outside Christianity. Making the public commitment does help the relationship to last longer. The other side of the picture is to ask why people would not want to make that commitment.
This is why you don't other people argue for you: I've always thought this but my points have never been based on how expensive it is (which is all this video seemed to contest). What is marriage? Coming together, no? What sin does marriage fight against? Sex without commitment, no?
Biblical differentiation between fornication, marriage and even engagement!! Now if any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives to ALL generously and without criticizing, and it will be given to him. James1"...And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you..."Luke11Proverbs2-4MARRIAGE is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but FORNICATORS[whoremongers] and adulterers God will judge. Hebrews13 ..Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. ... 9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.Yet you say, ..1Corinthians7"For what reason?" Because the LORD has been witness Between you and the wife of your youth, With whom you have dealt treacherously; Yet she is your companion And your wife by COVENANT. Malachi2 "I don't have a husband," the woman replied. Jesus said, "You're right! You don't have a husband-- 18 for you have had five husbands, and you aren't even married to the man you're living with now. You certainly spoke the truth!"John4Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither FORNICATORS, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. ... 13 Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body [is] not for FORNICATION, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body. ... 18 FLEE FORNICATION. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. 19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.1Corinthians5-6-7 Therefore be imitators of God as dear children. 2 And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma. 3 But FORNICATION and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; ... 5 For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not be partakers with them. 8 For you were once darkness, but now [you are] light in the Lord. Walk as children of light 9 (for the fruit of the Spirit [is] in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), 10 finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose [them]. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret. ... 15 See then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools but as wise, 16 redeeming the time, because the days are evil. 17 Therefore do not be unwise, but UNDERSTAND what the will of the Lord [is]. ... 21 submitting to one another in the fear of God. 22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. 24 Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so [let] the wives [be] to their own husbands in everything. 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord [does] the church. 30 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. 31 "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh."[Genesis2,Mark10,Matthew19] 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife [see] that she respects [her] husband.Ephesians5
Marriage is the realm of the church not the state! A marriage license is just a secular con by the government so they can tax your marriage. Here's what my fiance and I are doing, we are getting married in a church we're even having my dad who was a pastor officiate we're exchanging vows that's later on today actually, then in a couple of weeks were moving in, then we're having the huge celebration next year so we're technically getting married twice I guess you could say, and then after the big celebration ceremony next year we're going to sign a paper with the church but it's not a marriage license it's what's called a certificate of commitment and it will be recognized by the church but not the federal government.
Getting a marriage license only means that you're legally allowed to get married to your betrothed, not that you actually are married. So Christian are having sex out of marriage before the certificate so all those 'I dos' don't mean anything. So when are you married? Cause if anything happens between the 14 days to get the certificate the government has the right to revoke your marriage and technology your not married. This is huge problem cause if the church says it's when you say "I do" then why the marriage certificate anyway. Hope this helps
People in the bible got married according to the law and was able to get married against God's commandments and his will. God forbid these marriages but they did not obey God's laws. According to how two become one in the eyes of God, it goes back to the beginning and the origin of marriage. According to scripture, a wife was a gift from God. Genesis 2:18. not a product from the state or by getting a license to marry. God brought the couple together and they was husband and wife cause God made them for each other. For this reason a man is united to his wife and they become one flesh. Is no other explanation from God except that he marry's (joins) the couple together. No license required for who God joins together for this isn't a legal matter. it's a spiritual one. therefore who God joins together, let no man put asunder.
"let each be convinced in his own mind"
I have a problem with the fact with the have to submit to governing authorities. If you do that 100% you WILL take the mark of the beast one day.
These people in the video are working for the Government, do they not have a contract with them? What is the 501c ? They are in bed with then so they preach what they are allowed. Colossians 2:20 > "If you have died with Christ to the spiritual forces of the world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its regulations."
Oh boy....
this is just so wrong and incredibly silly (commentary @11:30 and on especially).
No place in the Bible does it command a man and a woman to appeal to Caesar or any man's government to be licensed to have sex and procreate children. Also no place in the law of the land in Western civilization and even in European countries does it command or demand a man and a women to be licensed to have sex and procreate children. I can't believe 'Living Waters' is even discussing this.
Today, the church has to realize it is NOT fornication for two people to be united under God without a Government marriage licence. In Biblical times, marriage was done with the family's as witnesses and no one had to appeal to Caesar to do it. Yes there was a marriage celebration with family and friends, but the Bride and Groom didn't pay the governors of the land for licence to be married. As a matter of fact - today the Governments of USA and Canada are issuing unholy licences with same sex couples and, some Christians make the case that: because of this it is proper and righteous for heterosexual couples to shun that unholy marriage arrangement done by government. Personally I say - if same sex couples want the government to licence their union, go for it, I really don't care for 'Government marriage licencing' has nothing to do with the Jewish/Christian faith of holy matrimony under our LORD God. The fact remains: the Christian community is under NO LAW either in the Bible nor from Government to pay for a licence to be considered legally married. Currently there is a movement in Western Governments to get rid of the marriage licencing altogether. Saying this - I can't help but think Living Waters is not being honest with their viewers. They are wrong to claim anyone is committing fornication without a Gov licence. How dare they condemn that what they have no knowledge of? A piece of paper issued by the government is not a guard against fornication! I'm shocked they are taking this stand.
Another point is, Living Waters may be the ones promoting sin by encouraging couples to have a third party come between the couple's union. Consider: Government Marriage licences are a THIRD Party in the marriage, they become part of the union and have a legal say in the marriage and all the proceeds thereof, including the children. Those who have a Government marriage licence have not been two flesh joined together as one by God, they are two joined together with government agencies, many other men and women. The couple is not free from entanglements with this world - they have allowed themselves to become joined with entanglements - they actually willfully do this and even pay to have it. I've actually had Christians tell me their conscious views this as paying for a harlot to enjoin the marriage. Considering God calls Babylon the Mother of harlots... I can see their point! Christians can consider the third party Government as having an Adulterous marriage that is not joined together under God but under men. Just google this information and inform yourself.
After listening to this, I can't help but view Living Waters has now become an agent of the Government. And I say all this with myself being married 30 years with a government licence. But times have changed, and its no longer a righteous way of God to be yoked with the governments of the world.
+Barbara Sinclair Yeshua Himself proclaimed the sanctity of marriage. You are incorrect and misleading. I have to question your intent and beliefs with this comment. It seems you are trying to lead many to sin and I rebuke this in the name of Yeshua. You said a lot of words with no scripture reference. That is a dead giveaway.
+greekgod41 Yeshua is the the Hebrew name for Jesus. It is what He was named and known by before it was translated to Greek.
I may have made an assumption when I said He would have been called Yeshua. Please forgive me. He was a jew and the Jewish translation of the word Jesus is Yeshua so I know many who call Him by this name. There is no command in the bible to call Jesus only by a certain language as He is known by a different translation in many different countries so to say it is a false deity by any name but Jesus is incorrect. The important thing is to know He is the Messiah and Lord and Savior of mankind, regardless of the language used in which to say this. Thank you for your correction on my assumption. I should have said He MAY have been called this and not definitively that He was called this.
+Melanie C , I rebuke you, and charge you to give me a scripture verse where the Son of God Himself the very Word of God (all scripture) proclaimed a man and a woman must pay for a Government marriage licence to be legally married in the eyes of God the Father. I have to question your intent and beliefs with this comment. It seems you are trying to lead many to sin, because you said words with no scripture reference. That is a dead giveaway. So give the verse or go away and repent and stop attacking people .... please. Be a nice lady ok?
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+Barbara Sinclair Yeshua Himself proclaimed the sanctity of marriage. You are incorrect and misleading. I have to question your intent and beliefs with this comment. It seems you are trying to lead many to sin and I rebuke this in the name of Yeshua. You said a lot of words with no scripture reference. That is a dead giveaway.
To be considered legally married according to the government of Canada, you must have a license or wait 3 years for common law status to begin.
Mark 12:17 states to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's in reference to taxation. We are to be blameless so why wouldn't we adhere to the laws of the land?
Romans 13 discusses the importance of obeying the laws of the land as well. If you are not considered married according to the government then you are not considered married. Period. Unless you're suggesting people live in sin until they reach the 3 year mark to be considered married under common law. I would say this is a bad idea and would result in fornication. Can you provide any scriptures to back up your claims about marriage and obeying the law?
What God has put together, let not man put asunder.
BIBLICALLY speaking, that paper isn't needed. Also, are you guys aware that the marriage license gives the government the position of the third party within that marriage? Are you aware that obtaining a license tells Satan the couple can't handle their affairs?
I was really hoping to get sound, Biblical doctrine on this. Sadly, I'm disappointed in Ray and his team on this.
@Shawn Cahill
www.creationliberty.com/articles/marriage.php
@Shawn Cahill
Either you didn't read that link or you're being sarcastic. Which is it?
@Shawn Cahill
The information found at that link is pretty exhaustive. Take a gander and you'll see.
I am so glad that I found this bc I just said this with my understanding to someone on Facebook that says you don't need a paper to say I'm married. So glad you confirmed it.
I think the opposite bc there is a licence for divorce in the bible then u must have a license for marriage. What will happen if ur woman decides to find other man ?, then she is not longer ur wife then? U don't need a licence for divorce and go to the next woman?
When u marry someone u submit to one onother and all of the deeds become one just like in spirit.
Also the orthodox Church claims in
Romans 13
1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
So I believe if in ur country the government states that a man and a woman are married through a certificate then its a sin to God .
And the way God intended marriage is in church and a priest I believe.
@@pitbull-ig9nm we are to be married by an ordained pastor and before God. We are to obtain a license to be married legally. Whatever your law in your country states, that is what you must do as a child of God. Marriage is not a game and it is a covenant with God. He takes it seriously. People throw marriage around loosely with no regards of the covenant.
@@mamawlife7852 i pastor is different from priest?
My message above was that u said, if it came wrong I meant that what u said.
@Randall Slaughter it's all in there. Go back and listen again. Of course this is for those who believe in God's word and abide by it. If your not born again, you won't agree with what they say no matter what video your listening to.
@Randall Slaughter your just wanting to argue. The Bible does not specifically say" you don't need a piece of paper to get married" though it says you need one to get divorced, meaning you need one to get married. We are to follow the laws of the land, meaning you must be married so they can have record. Living together out of wedlock is fornication. We live based on obedience, not for ourselves.
I agree with Ray and his team here....... There is no reason whatsoever on earth why two people could not spend $35 dollars and go get married first, before having sex......................
GOD is the one who put in the marriage laws in each city, in each county! Let us obey them and get married when GOD wants us to get married! It is so simple!!!
Yes GOD is sovereign over not only every town, not only over every city, not only over every country, not only completely sovereign over the earth, but GOD is sovereign over the entire universe and all of creation too! Yes GOD rules his creation through his son JESUS and JESUS reigns supreme over his entire creation! This includes marriage too!
Let me show you a few scriptures to show you just how much GOD is in control........ John 3:27 - A man can receive NOTHING unless it comes from heaven............... This clearly tells us that ALL things come from heaven................. And Lamentations 3:37 - Who can command things to happen without the LORD'S permission............. This shows us that JESUS has to give permission for anything in the universe to happen.............. So as you can see, the marriage laws come from heaven, and OR JESUS gives permission for the marriage laws to come into effect! So we can relax now, GOD is in full control!
I disagree with you completely!
Lamentations 3:38 - Out of the mouth of the most high cometh there not evil and good................... Once again brother, I disagree with you completely!
When the same people who issue marriage license do so to gay couples and to divorced people what value does that license have? You might as well get a marriage license from a clown passing them out on the street. I say the authority to marry people is illegitimate when this occurs. In my state and county they give marriage licenses to divorced people and to gay couples and in one instance, as an unsubstantiated rumor has it, to a threesome. In this moral desert island it seems to me a christian couple has no choice but to give themselves the license to marry. (Where 2 or three are gathered in my name...). I don't think the Ray Comfort crew has thought very deeply about this subject.
No, a marriage license is not needed to be married if both people made a commitment to each other thru God. The thing is, if you are truly committed to this person, wouldn't you want to offer as much security as possible? Wouldn't you want to pronounce to others that you have made a commitment to this person? A marriage license does this. Because it is a lawful paper, it secures certain rights for the people and makes the marriage visible to all.
I should have ended my marriage years ago and saved alot of hurt feelings....but do you blame me? I loved her and wanted it to work. I had our whole future to be excited for and held onto hope. I loved our family and our upcoming baby and we also had a second one while trying to make it work.... I love my family but clearly see I should have ended it. If only she wanted to fix it as much as I did... she refused marital counseling saying that statistics tell her counseling doesn't work.....without trying. This broke me... I live alone trying to fight for time to see my children. She convinced the court that covid was a valid reason to keep me from the children. I'm still fighting. Over 3 years now. Missed Christmas's, birthdays, fathers day... I'm a wreck. I miss my babies. She replaced me Ina month and 2 new boyfriends are around my kids more than I am. I've been able to see them 9 times over almost 4 years.
I am so sorry I hope things work out eventually
@@rachelpitcher3430 what's helped is learning to love what Jesus loves and hare what he hates. This turned my life around and now he is my #1 love. I know I'll see my children eventually, but for now, God is doing a work in my that I was never able to do on my own. I'm in uncharted waters but have courage in Christ.
Thank you for your kind words.
@@benjaminmoline5176 Yours is a hard circumstance to navigate, and it's these kinds of circumstances that I'd love for Christian leaders to address, because when you try and apply rules to real living circumstances, it gets messy. The big question is, what is God saying, not what did He say, because we are in a living relationship with God that speaks today. Many stories in the bible have shown that what God said is only absolute if He doesn't say something new. Point being He is God, and He can say something new.
Your situation doesn't seem fair, and doesn't seem like God's heart, but only you can discern what Holy Spirits leading is in your circumstance, because it's your personal relationship with Him.
Me personally, I am in the exactly same situation, except we are not married, and are together because of our child. In my conviction I have chosen to live under the same roof without fornicating any further or sharing a bed. But the question is how long can it be sustainable, and in an unequally yoked relationship, it could take a lifetime, and that's the sacrifice we make for the Love of God to be revealed. But imagining a life where I don't have true relationship with my child, and the influence of 'family' on her, seems too unjust than following some rule, which as can be seen in your case, doesn't guarantee a favorable outcome anyway.
I pray that your circumstances will be redeemed, and that God will give you the authority and rightful place in your families lives.
People need to get this right. We are going to face the good Lord sooner or later and He MAY just spew you out of his mouth if your not getting the big picture. It's something to pray about and seek understanding. It's a serious thing to fall under adultery or fornication.
What about a Commitment Service? Men and women who don’t want to be “shaking up” but if they marry the wife loses everything. This is something I have heard seniors are doing. I am a widow. Technically I cannot remarry if we are discussing “the eyes of the law.” I’m on social security but I also have an annuity from my husband’s 20 years in the military. I still have my health insurance, dental and eye insurance. If I marry I would lose my annuity (even though we paid for it), I would lose my health insurance, dental and eye. I would be left with Social Security only. Seniors who have different kinds of incomes, assets, their will , are doing a commitment service. They have a certificate but their “marriage” is not recognized by the state. They can have a ceremony if they want, the whole works. They recite vows, something they write on their own and it can be before a minister or not. There is a position now of “celebrant.” It is a person who will officiate your service. IDK if that person would sign a certificate or not. BTW, you can print out a certificate online I believe.
I really love watching this program, unfortunately I disagree with gov being part of two people being vowed to each other.
I think the opposite bc there is a licence for divorce in the bible then u must have a license for marriage. What will happen if ur woman decides to find other man ?, then she is not longer ur wife then? U don't need a licence for divorce and go to the next woman?
When u marry someone u submit to one onother and all of the deeds become one just like in spirit.
Also the orthodox Church claims in
Romans 13
1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
So I believe if in ur country the government states that a man and a woman are married through a certificate then its a sin to God .
And the way God intended marriage is in church and a priest I believe.
I WISH THESE PROGRAMS WERE MORE SERIOUS ....so that we could show them to teenagers who are really serious and devoted to God....and do not joke around with it like this :(
My husband and i have been together on & off 12 years, married for 4 years before divorcing. We lived separatly for 6-9 months before getting back together for the last 3 years now. We share a child together & one from a prior relationship. We still believe we are bonded together. Yet I wonder if it is displeasing to God that we sleep together?
Sister. The Bible déclares that you are married till the dead of one of you.
Divorce is a sin. You have to repent and ask God dor forgiveness.
@@jsfoyer5769 Thank you for your kind reply. ❤
@@ashleegardner6819 you are welcome sister
This is helpful
Thank you
My question is why should I get a license for something that is rightfully for me to do? If I get the state involved now the government is the head of my marriage and the fruit of it as well. And you who if you are a pastor or have been certified by your state to marry people are now an agent for the state. I’m married to my wonderful wife through two witnesses in front of family and friends. We did our own legal paperwork that we did about what we both will do and expect from each other scripturally and humanly and if we divorce we will handle it between the both of us with who gets what and what goes where and got it notarized no courts no government involvement. No where in scripture does it talk about getting a certificate or license to get married by state you live in as a matter of fact it’s roots is racial. It was invented so that the white women don’t have babies with black men. And to not seem that the government is hateful then they changed it to how it has benefits and made it into a money maker but still enslaving the man with a burden of loosing everything paying child support and possibly alimony all the while you have to pay for your own living expenses while another man slips into it. Men don’t sign or get a marriage certificate have a ceremony and honor God that way and make vows to each other because in reality it’s really to God that you vow to honor, cherish, etc., each other. And truly God is the head of the the marriage and not the government.
before in the days living with someone for a period of time the state considered you married
Romans 13..? your putting ceasars face on marriage, that's ludicrous. yes pay taxes, yes get a drivers licence , these are things ordained by the state, so yes in those cases it's appropriate. but GOD ordained marriage. if you can't see that by giving the state the power, then of course gays can marry. We've made the word of GOD of none effect..
@@DavidNicholson101
www.creationliberty.com/articles/marriage.php
@@glintoflightonbrokenglass9473 I look forward to reading it. You should look up Candace Cameron and her marriage to her husband. Now that is a Proverbs 31 woman.
@@glintoflightonbrokenglass9473 I skimmed through it. One thing that kind of irks me about it is that the book of Revelation compared the Church to a bride adorned for her husband. The imagery described in that passage is described as pagan in that book. I'm not saying his whole book is wrong. Only that certain things such as the bride adorned for her husband was probably practiced by the Hebrews in the OT when they had their wedding. No, there was no marriage license. IMO that is the main take away from that book.
Twenty-five years ago, I did what he did with my girlfriend. We sat in the car alone, and I looked into her eyes and told her how much I loved her and how much I wanted to be with her. We've been together ever sense.
@@DavidNicholson101
Candace is back in the TV industry, doing Satanic things. Her fruits tell on her and out her lies. She's no born again saint, but a satanist. She does Satan's work.
@@DavidNicholson101
I will have to read it again to be able to have a discussion about this with you; it has been a year or so since I read it. I really appreciate that you took time to even look at it and look forward to hashing some things out with you. My husband and I are married before God, as He put us together. I feel no need to get a paper just so people & Satan/the government recognize my marriage. God does, I do, my husband does. That's all that matters to me.
I fully enjoy the Comfort Zone, but am now disheartened that Living Waters has removed it from their page. Why is it now unlisted?
So if you can't pick and choose which "government" licenses are valid and should obey the laws of the land, then you should agrees with abortion (murder) laws and follow their direction in your thinking.
A piece of paper is worthless. Have you researched the origin of the marriage license in the US? It was started as a tax/permission for interracial couples to be married. So it's origin is based in racism. What a man and woman do between themselves is none of the government's business. It is between them and God.
Starting @17:22, someone needs to explain this to OPRAH
Yeah...!!!! The state is not invited to my marriage. Or thry will have no control on my family.
Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's - Mark 12:17
If Caesar (Government) requires a marriage certificate for official processing of government stuff like social support, or census, then we as christians must abide by law.
So when i was 12 me and a middle school boy i was with had a fake wedding with us and our friend as a pastor we said fake little vowes and peck kissed does that mean we are married in gods eyes...
RetartedFuze Main no 😂
But marriage was and is God's. Should we really allow man to be the determiner of matrimony?
Then you should not be opposed to abortion with that line of thinking because "government" legislation says its OK. Research the origin of the marriage license. It's based in racism and the traditions of man. Both are not in line with Christianity.
They make oaths at wedding but Matt 5:34-37 says not to
God tell use that in the bible that the governments is the devils propty.so y would people get married and sign over all the fruits u have out the marriage.so with the marriage paper u mite as well say u asking the devil to get married and if u pay them they have all the rite to your children also.
A license is important for driving or something. If you choose to drive a car without a license , that's a real violation of government laws. Because that's dangerous.
have a question if you live to getter how is that a sin if you honnor God and do not sin plus mary and joseph they where not maried and living toggeter
The Certificate of Divorce is hand written, by the husband, there is NO government involved, no authority involved, no representative involved, no religious elders involved. The husband hand writes it to his wife, hands it to her and sends her away.
Please show me scripture of a Certificate of Marriage in the bible. Show where God said you needed this to get married and have that marriage recognized. You can’t do it.
Some of us aren't legally married because we can't afford the monetary implications of it afterwards. Not the marriage license itself. Mainly, health insurance. I know of couples that have even had to be legally divorced because of health insurance issues not being able to receive financial help with a medical crisis such as cancer. But the friends and family as well as the couples refer to each other as husband and wife and feel God knows their hearts, minds, and souls. To what would your response be to these real problems? Are people to have a marriage license only for one to pass away due to no medical assistance? This is very concerning.
I know a couple where both are legally disabled and on disability. The woman is able to stay on her parents health insurance but if they legally get married, she loses not only her health insurance , for a life threatening condition, but they would both lose their disability benefits. That’s the only way they are able to survive. So they’re doing a wedding ceremony but are not filing for a license. It’s like the government/insurance company are punishing them for being disabled and saying you can’t be both married and live
The thing is... You can be married WITHOUT a marriage license in the eyes of God...the paper itself DOES NOT "make you married."
We as followers of Christ are to obey the laws of the land & if you are somewhere that the law requires you to have a marriage license that says that you are LEGALLY married...they we are to get it, so that we are not disobeying the Word of God which says to obey the laws of the land...period.
Getting the license DOES NOT go against scripture, it is not causing one to sin in getting it.
However, to be very clear... God recognizes the marriage with or without a license, because you & your spouse have taken vows & entered into a COVENANT (not a contract) with not only your spouse...but God.
This is one reason God hates Divorce.
In short...you are to get the license in order to obey the laws of the land like the Bible says.
Know Also, that the reason for the license has NOTHING to do with the vows or covenant...it is for legal purposes only...this is why homosexuals can get married in some places...they are not married in God eyes...but LEGALLY they are in the world...God does not recognize the marriage, nor does He honor it.
So, anyone can get married & show a piece of paper to say so...but that doesn't mean they are married in Gods eyes. There were no "licenses" to marry back in biblical times...but divorce "papers" because of the hard hearts...it is not God will (divorce)
When a man & woman who has never been married before (1st) time...and they go say...to a church or elope & get married before God... BEFORE they get the license...when they do that .. THEY ARE THEN MARRIED....(before they get the license) having the license does not make them married. EVEN IF THEY NEVER GOT IT....they would STILL be married in Gods eyes...but they would be being disobedient by not getting it, if where they are required it.
Obey the laws of the land. If you don't like the laws of the land do as you please and be ready to pay for your actions. Work hard to change the laws if it means that much to you....happens every day.
Paul Lindsey
The law of the land allows "gay marriage"...that is clearly not Gods will..
Please explain now. .
The question is how does God make covenants? Right. He never makes covenants and getting approval with the authorities. Never. He works alone. Marriage is a secret and covenant agreement with you and your spouse through faith. Believe in the Lord and you’ll never need to make it “official” from authorities. Everyone is deceived by what our ancestors have passed down and we start to believe that “writing on a paper” makes it official. Wrong. It says in the Bible, when the farmer goes to sleep the devil comes and plants his seed among his crops. Ok.
The thing to look into is Christ and the church resembles a marriage. Does it say anything about getting government approval makes us official to Christ? No. So there’s your answer.
People talk about Romans 13:1 Submission to Government Authorities. This doesn’t mean follow their customs, it talks about following common laws, “For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.”
Romans 13:4
Again, authorities do not force us to be married and write on a piece of paper. Going against the laws breaking laws they will punish us, “for the rulers do not bear the sword for no reason”. Do we get punished by the sword for not marrying by legal papers. Nope.
Keep Gods word alive inside each of you. Study and have faith by obeying his commands. The true connection us the church.
Amen!
13 Groomsmen!? EZ! lol.
My husband and I were married for $500, including 'the dress' :)
I have a question. If anyone knows an answer it would be much appreciated. What does the Bible say about living with someone and not sleeping with them?
Hi.
I know the question is 3 yrs old but I will try to give an answer, to bless somebody in that same temptation.
Here is what the Bible says in 2 Thess 5v22 .
When you live under a same roof with someone of opposite gender, you give occasion to The ennemies of the Gospel to blaspheme.
Secondly, you give yourself into temptation you will eventually fall into, and sin again God, the girl and yourself.
Thirthly, when living like that, you are action like a thief, trying to enjoy the advantages of marriage before time.
So, it's no wise at all to expose yourself to fornication, knowing that fornication is not only *sleep*, but also touching, kissing, looking with lust.
God bless and strengthen everyone of us. May He keeps us away from Sin, in Jesus name.
These same worldly conformers often say they do Not need to follow God’s Law, and then turn around and say that they need to follow the laws of man❗️🤦♂️
I got married to my husband 35 years ago all I know is I went to a building in Vegas and I am not sure who married us but it was legal please help me not be confused and my mother to this day says we’re not legally married because we did not get married in a Catholic Church like my sister dude I’ve always felt guilty about that but in my heart I have my ear my husband are not married my God which I still don’t understand then what is
you can get married in your back garden if you really wanted to. marriage doesnt have a specific place in the bible, dont let people lie to you. God knows your hearts, does he love you? do you love him? So, do not let a human judge you. Catholics aren't following God anyway, 'hail Mary' is so wrong and so is confessing sins to popes and so is a lot more that they do. God bless you sister.
question: biblically Jacob had a ceremony for rachel, but in the morning he was married to leah..? please explain
+Nick. Bombard Jacob had an agreement with Laban that Jacob would work for Laban for 7 years as a dowry of sorts so that Jacob could marry Laban's younger daughter Rachel, however the day of the wedding ceremony Laban cover Leah the elder daughter up and tricked Jacob in to marrying Leah, because in that country at the time the younger daughter couldn't get married until the older daughter was married first. that's what Laban told Jacob confronted him (Laban) about the deception. So now Laban has Jacob work for him (Laban) for another 7 years so he(Jacob) could marry Rachel.
www.creationliberty.com/articles/marriage.php
Marriages don't have to be expensive. The couple chooses to have an elaborate wedding.
i did thought of doing this because i see that there's a lot of cons to signing the marriage papers and mainly the cons are the men. although i have told my partner that if the worst were to happen, i wouldnt ask anything from him but be a father to our kids. but of course is hard to believe that until it happens. I want to get married to have god's blessing and become one in the eyes of the lord.
The government has no business in the marriage business. Initially, marriage was the coming together of man and woman and government didn't (and shouldn't) have anything to do with it. God spoke to me that the stamp of approval is being passed off without God's permission. We are supposed to pray and ask God if this person is for you. Society has taken God out of the equation but pass it off as God's approval. Marriage has become a state institution not an institution of God.
The documents we used to forgo a marriage license wasf untrue but we were married because of these untrue documents. My lawyer says this is a valid reason for our marriage to be voided. But in the eyes of God are we married if we had dishonest documents?
When I was a teenager I agreed to "be married" to my online boyfriend at the time But does that count in Gods eyes. We Never had a ceremony and still called each other boyfriend and girlfriend to other people and now we are broken up. But now I'm 23 and worried did this count as a real marriage? Parden me for being dumb 🤦♀️
No it doesn’t. So rest assured.
Social security numbers and birth certificates ARE NOT requirements, and you can present evidence against a government issued drivers license and other such documentation.
I’m 15 and me and my girlfriend have been together for 2 years and are now getting closer to God and listening to his word does that consider us married in the Bible
No
My opinion is the bible is clear on what is required to live according to God, mariage license isn't one of them in fact there isn't a sigle example in the Bible. The states has requirements (mandatory) to live legally alone or with your spouse, civil mariage isn't one of them either. There are possibilities procedures to be recognized by the state for obvious legal and tax purposes but it isn't a sin that you are not able to do certain things because you have no license. You can fulfil your vows to your spouse and God with no legal recognition.
Oh, how I need to learn to be more like Jesus and not be myself when trying to deal with those in a cult. I feel as though I am not in control of my own mind when confronted with their foul beliefs! From where was my opinion so strongly formed that my personality gets in the way of sharing the good news? How can I lovingly witness to those with staunch beliefs?
+Michael Uebelhack Without expectations.
The book Kingdom of Cults or Kigdom of Occults can help understand those cults-it's written by a staunch charismatic with theology I don't recommend but the book helps understand the cults. You just be loving but truthful
Yo Dopest, what if we're all right? Frankly, I'm risk averse and won't gamble with my eternal soul. Oh and try prayer. The instant I start praying, stress melts away and a peace fills me. Whatever you do, DON'T mess with trying prayer. It's not available to you.
Sometimes you do want to do it legally but it's not possible...so I think there Is nothing less official to say vows to each other,without the government being involved....example what if you're in a war zone and want to marry?
I know a couple where both are legally disabled and on disability. The woman is able to stay on her parents health insurance but if they legally get married, she loses not only her health insurance , for a life threatening condition, but they would both lose their disability benefits. That’s the only way they are able to survive. So they’re doing a wedding ceremony but are not filing for a license. It’s like the government/insurance company are punishing them for being disabled and saying you can’t be both married and live.
When you make these videos, is Mark in the same room sitting across from Rat & E.Z. - or is he remote from another location?
I believe you can get married in a church without registration in front of your loved ones with a Pastor conducting the service and blessing it, with the usual rings exchanged confirming their commitment under God. I think in today's world divorce have proven to be quite complicated when marriages fail and people do not wish to go through the process again. If your marriage is based on biblical principles, practising the fruits of the spirit, respect and trust, then there would be no need for a divorce.
rings dont make you married, just another catholic introduced thing, like vows
Can someone please answer this for me. It’s been bothering me. What is biblically marriage? What defines marriage in God’s eye? Is it a piece of paper from the state government telling everyone that you’re married? Or is it a confession to God that you’re committed with this person till death do us part?
mike xiong I’m being told that a woman is married to the first man she had sex with
The governments so corrupt, god doesn’t care about a piece of paper at least he’s care about vows and a celebration…
i had that same question about the different religions and it lead me to witchcraft 🤦🏻♀️
@Syndicate already have
This does fall under what is a Marriage? In the purest biblical sense a Marriage is a life term commitment between God, a man, and woman to stay together and do God's will. A ring signifies it, a paper certifies it, and a wedding celebrates it. We don't see all three with Adam and Eve, but his poem was arguably a celebration and everything was before God. We know the church will join the Wedding of the Lamb, so they are established.
what happens if two people who get married then divorce, and come back together again do they have to do a ceremony again
I believe John 4:17,18 is highly instructive:
Jesus said to her, “You are right in saying, ‘I have no husband’; for you have had five husbands, and the one you now have is not your husband. What you have said is true.” John 4:17-18 (ESV)
The woman married 5 times. Then with the 6th, she didn't bother with the legal formality.
Each culture has its formalities that recognize marriage. In the USA, it is a marriage certificate.
Good insight.
So you want Christians to tell the government they need the state to handle all of their affairs and give all ownership/custody of the fruits of their marriage away to the state? That's exactly what people are doing by obtaining a marriage license and certificate from the US government.
www.creationliberty.com/articles/marriage.php
Thank you for this!
yeah but don't forget unless her first husband is dead in God's eyes she's married to him..
when Jesus returns for his Bride should we check to see if he has applied for marriage License. most cultures require the Man to ask the brides father for her hand. So would Jesus have to ask my Father in Heaven for our Hand?. I disagree Lucas and starwars is just another Golden calf in modern times
For real and if we have to have a marriage license then so does he, he can't be a hypocrite after all. Actually he doesn't have to have one because they're not really required, that's what man says not God
The person who refuses to marry doesn't enter into that covenant. Those that say 'married in Gods eyes' is not in agreement that is a bond for life. To enter into a life long bond (un breakable commitment) there needs to be a ceremony with witnesses thus making it official as husband and wife.
What would you say to a person that has a legal state marriage to someone else other then the man she is living with and calls her husband. She claims that she can't find her former husband who she's lived apart from for many years. She believes in God's eyes he excepts her present relationship as a marriage .
Adam and Eve didn't have a marriage license. That said, what's stopping you from getting married by the laws of your country/state? It's true you can be spiritually married and not legally married, but why would you want to be? Go all the way if you're really marrying someone. No fancy expensive wedding or rings needed, just do it.
The Bible says we need to follow the law, so long as it does not go against God.
A marriage license does not go against the will of God, so yes, you should be properly married.
If the government ever makes you choose between them and God in the act of marriage (which at the moment it does NOT) then you should STILL have a document and witnesses in your local church.
And yes, the ancient Jews did have an official marriage document that was required for the entirety of the marriage. It was the ketubah.