This is the layout we almost always instinctually choose, because there are so many counters. We've tried to get away from it, but it JUST KEEPS PULLING US BACK IN!
I'm all for Diner's playing solo or duo; it doesn't allow for a large amount of automation, but it'll get you past franchise, no problem. For 4 players though, yeah, diners are tight :)
It seems to me that the wash basin is almost superior to the dishwasher, especially in multiplayer where you can now team up on a task. Like Ash mentioned, having to wait for the dishwasher to cycle takes a good chunk of time. In single player the "set it and forget it" aspect of the dishwasher shines a lot more. Honestly the medium groups was your biggest challenge because you had a good set up and flow overall, but the amount of work needed for each table was large. I do wish there was more options to increase queue patience too as that tends to sink a good run faster than anything.
Just a tip, next time, it would be a good idea to get the prep station, because jazzy could have filled it up with empty pie shells for price to fill with meat. It's basically 4 counters in one, and takes up way less space. It really could have increased productivity, that way jazzy doesn't have to wait for the counters to clear up before she can keep making pie shells
I have a tip for Aenne: you can ask the customer what they want after you've put down a dish, or while holding a dish for a second customer at the same table. That will save you some trips with dishes. :)
@@cheese3640 I agree, when I first started watching them in the don’t starve series it was impossible for me until Price started becoming Webber. We are lucky he has a thousand voices hehe
You should wait to take orders until you absolutely need to/can take them (i.e. right before you serve), especially when you already know what they want. Otherwise you're wasting an entire wait meter that can be helpful down the line
People line up outside way quicker than people inside--you can't wait around to take orders without the outside line increasing. Maybe early game you could, but you also don't need to early on because there's so much time.
The dishwasher is never as beneficial as it seems. I think it only works with 2 sets of dishes since its harder to control the timing. It's also probably better in single player where you need the automated items to help out.
I like Price's strat where he has both a dishwasher and a wash basin or a dish rack because it basically gives you a place to store dirty dishes while you wait for the dishwasher
Dishwasher is AMAZING, I've only seen players have trouble with it when they don't stay on top. If you're a whole load behind you run out of plates and it's a mess, but that's a player prioritizing issue and not the washer itself.
@@carlotta4th the time it takes to power wash 4 dishes is a lot faster than a dishwasher. Also for the stumpt crew that likes to preemptively load stuff up with plates makes using a dishwasher seem useless.
The wash basin would have been better for this situation simply because you had someone doing dishes. I’d also suggest buying a plate pile early game if you can afford them because you can never have too many plates!! You guys did really well though.
[YELPISH REVIEW] "Finally got to eat 3.14 whole steak meat pies ! I didn't expect much since it was end of service, but got extra cheese and wine ! Waiteress was adorable, will definitely come again :)"
Also experimenting with more L shaped tables could possibly have helped you get one more table or to extend the 2 person table into a 4 person one. I'm not entirely sure if there was room for that in that map
If you guys had moved the plates up next to the sink by the flower instead of the wall may have relieved that pinch point between Ash and Aenne, having them all the way down at the wall didn't make much sense if you weren't going to a different room
Aenne needs to wash the dish or and not leaving them in the sink. It helps with the flow of the other players, if they do not need to stop what they are doing. Unless they were in an emergency, or had a zones system, it very important to not impede others movement or actions.
Slip and Pied. Pie-demonium Pied-piper Pie me with liquor Hunger of the Pie Pie one on Also, I thought you guy upgraded the soaking sink into the dishwasher?
efficiency-wise, this episode was a MESS. The top right Price+Jaz corner worked near perfect. But the bottom left, with all the bumping in each other and Ash not being able to handle the dishes was a totally different story. The plates were places inefficient the whole time. There was a lack of counter space to quickly remove dirty plates to. The only place to hold dirty dishes were the first and second sink while you have a rush of 5 plates at peaks. B+ for Aennes german, C- for the lack of thoughts to identify your pinch points.
Good run. Just a tip, try not to load the washing machine with 4 in the rush. You can run it with 3 plates that way you can get more plates out faster.
22:22 Price is wrong again, spreading false facts. Charming (homey) decorations do NOT make customers order their food longer. It increases the patience of guests so they will wait longer before they leave after waiting too long (which is a losing condition, as you perfectly know
Lol what? He's not purposely spreading false facts, there's so much info about this game that didn't used to be nicely summarized on the left of the screen, so its possible to misunderstand some factor out of so many bits of info, and then internalize it and continue thinking it. Not to mention all the info from people in the comments that they definitely don't have time to double check and research, and people in the comments definitely also make mistakes.
@@Kahlan_Amnell_ noone said it was on purpose. I also get the accusatory tone, but it was probably well meant and unfortunately articulated. Benefit of doubt and such
I understand that he means good trying to avoid what is considered underpowered, even though that way is wrong and not backed up by experience or knowledge shared by Rik or viewers in the comments, but it bugs me that he continuously spites charm decorations despite them being quite good. Stumpt used to get charming decorations and no benefit of having them made customers order longer or whatever. The same with affordable decorations (burgers), back in the day Price was saying that having negative burgers would make customer eat longer, despite no "negative levels" of themes being in the game. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to attack Price, I really like him and the rest of the crew, I also understand his good intentions. You know, I just wish he changed his opinion on charming decorations, especially when it is not reasonable to makes decoration benefits actually harmful to players (like longer ordering time, or longer eating time, regarding to themes themselves and not items)
I was so confused by this as well. Homey means customers are more patient, not take longer to eat or order. It's espcially helpful when you are serving 2-5 ppl per table.
We don’t talk about Apple pies no no no we don’t talk about Apple pies but it was my wedding day we were getting ready and there wasn’t a pie in the sky apple pie walks in with a mischievous grin Thunder you’re telling the story or am I
This is the layout we almost always instinctually choose, because there are so many counters. We've tried to get away from it, but it JUST KEEPS PULLING US BACK IN!
Hi I'm a big fan!
@@charushilagautam5429 Hi!!!
Counters = good
@@paulandersbullecer3152 Agreed. It's just that this location tends to run out of space quickly. Depending on the player count you have.
I'm all for Diner's playing solo or duo; it doesn't allow for a large amount of automation, but it'll get you past franchise, no problem. For 4 players though, yeah, diners are tight :)
It seems to me that the wash basin is almost superior to the dishwasher, especially in multiplayer where you can now team up on a task. Like Ash mentioned, having to wait for the dishwasher to cycle takes a good chunk of time. In single player the "set it and forget it" aspect of the dishwasher shines a lot more. Honestly the medium groups was your biggest challenge because you had a good set up and flow overall, but the amount of work needed for each table was large. I do wish there was more options to increase queue patience too as that tends to sink a good run faster than anything.
Hearing them talk about group sizes being 1 when it's medium group sizes was a treat. 🤣 Oh goodness.
I was like “that’s not what it does”
I was having a heart attack
To be fair, they were doing way better than originally thought
Just a tip, next time, it would be a good idea to get the prep station, because jazzy could have filled it up with empty pie shells for price to fill with meat. It's basically 4 counters in one, and takes up way less space. It really could have increased productivity, that way jazzy doesn't have to wait for the counters to clear up before she can keep making pie shells
The dishwasher isn't the best way to clean dishes. Power sink and basin!
True. Basin for storage and power sink to churn out as many clean dishes as fast as possible
I have a tip for Aenne: you can ask the customer what they want after you've put down a dish, or while holding a dish for a second customer at the same table. That will save you some trips with dishes. :)
A tip for ash. if i recall correctly, i remember noticing that you can wash dishes with a dirty dish in your hand.
29:45 Price sounds identical to Rik. I thought it was an additional edit🤣
They actually sound similar, I had a hard time distinguishing them when I first started watching the channel 🤣
@@cheese3640 I agree, when I first started watching them in the don’t starve series it was impossible for me until Price started becoming Webber. We are lucky he has a thousand voices hehe
You should wait to take orders until you absolutely need to/can take them (i.e. right before you serve), especially when you already know what they want. Otherwise you're wasting an entire wait meter that can be helpful down the line
People line up outside way quicker than people inside--you can't wait around to take orders without the outside line increasing. Maybe early game you could, but you also don't need to early on because there's so much time.
This was hilarious to watch, especially Aenne's sass towards the customers, which then evolved into German boy accent, and finally into pure stress.
44:12 Jazzy thats hilarious! I love hearing of other people's dreams.
The dishwasher is never as beneficial as it seems. I think it only works with 2 sets of dishes since its harder to control the timing. It's also probably better in single player where you need the automated items to help out.
I like Price's strat where he has both a dishwasher and a wash basin or a dish rack because it basically gives you a place to store dirty dishes while you wait for the dishwasher
The dishwasher is super useful, when you don’t have 3-4 people.
@@kvfxlonewolf2684 yea cause it’s like playing 2 player in solo mode
Dishwasher is AMAZING, I've only seen players have trouble with it when they don't stay on top. If you're a whole load behind you run out of plates and it's a mess, but that's a player prioritizing issue and not the washer itself.
@@carlotta4th the time it takes to power wash 4 dishes is a lot faster than a dishwasher. Also for the stumpt crew that likes to preemptively load stuff up with plates makes using a dishwasher seem useless.
Cause wine has now become a prominent topic in Stumpt due to Aenne, I would like to bring up an important question, Room-temperature or Cold?
Alt title: Aenne slowly loses her mind.
Also 55:06 "What are you doing on the other side of the chest high wall!"
I feel like the customers take one or two bites of the food, then just tear up the rest with their hands and throw it around everywhere🤣🤣
I always dig these episodes so much. I can’t get over how fun this is! And I can’t wait to play it with my own friends, too.
The wash basin would have been better for this situation simply because you had someone doing dishes. I’d also suggest buying a plate pile early game if you can afford them because you can never have too many plates!! You guys did really well though.
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One star. Restaurant was full and I had to wait outside at least 30 seconds. Do not recommend."
🎶We don’t talk about apples, no no no🎶
Also did you know that 3.14% of sailors are piRates?
I love this series, but I think you should have put the plates next to the dough in the center
[YELPISH REVIEW] "Finally got to eat 3.14 whole steak meat pies ! I didn't expect much since it was end of service, but got extra cheese and wine ! Waiteress was adorable, will definitely come again :)"
Also experimenting with more L shaped tables could possibly have helped you get one more table or to extend the 2 person table into a 4 person one. I'm not entirely sure if there was room for that in that map
If you guys had moved the plates up next to the sink by the flower instead of the wall may have relieved that pinch point between Ash and Aenne, having them all the way down at the wall didn't make much sense if you weren't going to a different room
You absolutely can put the decorations in the kitchen -- they apply to the entire restaurant.
I want for one day to just open a pop up restaurant and have ONE thing on the menu. Just to find out how it goes.
Aenne needs to wash the dish or and not leaving them in the sink. It helps with the flow of the other players, if they do not need to stop what they are doing. Unless they were in an emergency, or had a zones system, it very important to not impede others movement or actions.
You could say they same about ash not helping Aenne serve
They could also put the clean dishes up top too
@@onetom2222 Yes. This very much. The plates should be where the flour is. And the flour can move down.
did any of you feel that the island was unnessary?
Regarding putting decorations in the kitchen, for the restaurant-wide items, you can indeed put them into the kitchen now :)
I don’t know why they like the dishwasher so much. It sucks. It occupies 4 plates. So you end up playing with 4 less plates
NO LITTLE GERMAN BOY, DONT GO INTO THE PIE!
What a great run! I really enjoyed this episode.
Dishwasher is a trap!
Batman is back!
Ash, I got the ‘I have to show you something what I do!’ and I thought it was funny good joke!
They added Cilantro, there’s not actual soap in these pies 👀😇
You did so well! I hope your take away is not that 2-4 groups or pies suck. I liked it, it was fun
Love the german touch 😂 laughed so hard 😂 greetz from bavaria, germany ❤️
Slip and Pied.
Pie-demonium
Pied-piper
Pie me with liquor
Hunger of the Pie
Pie one on
Also, I thought you guy upgraded the soaking sink into the dishwasher?
efficiency-wise, this episode was a MESS. The top right Price+Jaz corner worked near perfect. But the bottom left, with all the bumping in each other and Ash not being able to handle the dishes was a totally different story. The plates were places inefficient the whole time. There was a lack of counter space to quickly remove dirty plates to. The only place to hold dirty dishes were the first and second sink while you have a rush of 5 plates at peaks. B+ for Aennes german, C- for the lack of thoughts to identify your pinch points.
Great teamwork guys!!!
Good run. Just a tip, try not to load the washing machine with 4 in the rush. You can run it with 3 plates that way you can get more plates out faster.
I didn’t know Aenne has German family!
To be fair, Stardew Valley meets Elden Ring would be kinda cool.
It was a pretty good run ✨
28:38 Curse of bad reading has activated.
I like to think, I’m the Batman only restaurateur Aenne shone a light into the eyes of every customer asking “You Batman?”
aenna and ash scare the potatoes outa me everytime they barely manage anything related to plates!
More please!
What is Price referencing when he says "And the ____ of the day is... ____"?
Arrested Development.
Thanks!
This run need mops and washes so bad lol
You keep getting Kneading when you need chopping and vice versa. RNG can be such a troll.
Definitely should've kept the soaking sink.
in my opinion dishwasher only useful when you one or two player when you three or four it's just don't really work... power sink and basin better 🤷🏻
Good vid
Aenne and ash would NEVER be able to work together. I can feel the irritation from here
Aaaaash, how's business? 🤭🤭
oh i hate dishwasher
22:22 Price is wrong again, spreading false facts. Charming (homey) decorations do NOT make customers order their food longer. It increases the patience of guests so they will wait longer before they leave after waiting too long (which is a losing condition, as you perfectly know
Lol what? He's not purposely spreading false facts, there's so much info about this game that didn't used to be nicely summarized on the left of the screen, so its possible to misunderstand some factor out of so many bits of info, and then internalize it and continue thinking it. Not to mention all the info from people in the comments that they definitely don't have time to double check and research, and people in the comments definitely also make mistakes.
@@Kahlan_Amnell_ noone said it was on purpose. I also get the accusatory tone, but it was probably well meant and unfortunately articulated. Benefit of doubt and such
I understand that he means good trying to avoid what is considered underpowered, even though that way is wrong and not backed up by experience or knowledge shared by Rik or viewers in the comments, but it bugs me that he continuously spites charm decorations despite them being quite good. Stumpt used to get charming decorations and no benefit of having them made customers order longer or whatever. The same with affordable decorations (burgers), back in the day Price was saying that having negative burgers would make customer eat longer, despite no "negative levels" of themes being in the game. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to attack Price, I really like him and the rest of the crew, I also understand his good intentions. You know, I just wish he changed his opinion on charming decorations, especially when it is not reasonable to makes decoration benefits actually harmful to players (like longer ordering time, or longer eating time, regarding to themes themselves and not items)
@@HuviOnTheEdge the issue was not with message, but with tone. Your reply now is much more polite than the first one
I was so confused by this as well. Homey means customers are more patient, not take longer to eat or order. It's espcially helpful when you are serving 2-5 ppl per table.
missingno
actually decorations are for the whole restaurant not just the room unless it says otherwise on the card
Pie rats. You're welcome. ;P
There is someone called stumpt fan in 48:55 seconds
HELLO THEBRIANJ 👋
I’m playing Stardew right now
We don’t talk about Apple pies no no no we don’t talk about Apple pies but it was my wedding day we were getting ready and there wasn’t a pie in the sky apple pie walks in with a mischievous grin Thunder you’re telling the story or am I