When they said “where is the key for watcher knight chest” I instantly thought that would be a great addition to the randomizer. Chests requier keys that are also randomized, imagine the chaos
@@stalins_comically_large_spoon There is scripting in randomizers to prevent key items being locked behind their own checks - I.E. dream nail being dropped by a dream boss, or wings being locked behind a double jump gate. One method to do this is multiple copies of the critical value items, but that setting can be disabled and you shouldn't ever get a state where any item is completely unobtainable.
You don't need this "soul" or some "dream" when you have RAW POWER JUST STAB INTO THE INSIDES OF THOSE DREAMERS OPEN YOUR MIND? MORE LIKE OPEN YOUR SKULL
If I had to guess, they accidentally switched some properties with the normal nail and dream nail. I have a hunch that chests and bells will work just with dream nail instead
@@zaidlacksalastname4905 that's so weird because I never had any issues with Hollow Knight-- and I have a mortifying track-record of breaking games... Especially on release! I do think I remember hearing they hired a small team to assist with the workload which could include the programming stuff, since I think they did art in school and it's still their primary focus. Also, not fair to say "hope Silksong will be functional" as if HK isn't. This patch was bad but like... the game itself wasn't ALWAYS like that LOL.
The only glitch I’ve had with current HK is getting softlocked into a wall by one of the elevators in the Soul Sanctum, but there’s not a single other glitch I found by just playing normally
@@Takapon218 I remember it being weirdly easy getting softlocked 9 months after release when I got the game, I got softlocked by riding the top of an elevator (my character kept sliding off though) when i was just messing around. A while after they just put spikes in all the areas they couldn't bother fixing though.
@@Takapon218 I swear, some people are acting like it's weird the game was buggy on release, and that a bad patch that was only up for a bit accidently happened This game has like 2 dlc's and a ton of content for 15 dollars, and I've seen like no issues on the current version Plus, isn't team cherry like 3 ppl? Ofc the new game had some issues and stuff, it's not the end
What funny is, scr mod XeroGoFast actually got to play on this exact patch, and activate grimm troupe with normal nailhit. Just so you know, this patch was the first Grimm troupe patch, and was out for 40ish minutes. Then 1211 was changed to a second 1211 (a typo from Team Cherry), on which Monnstah made first 106 run iirc, and then 1210 was released after like, 10 minutes of second 1211 being out. (Second 1211 was just mislabeled 1210 lmao). So now in speedrun community, some of us (including me, and I think I was the one to propose this) call different 1211 1211 X (the messed up one) and 1211 M (mislabeled one). Sorry for so much text lol
@@python1118 probably just the general point, it's pretty confusing if you don't already know that there's two versions of patch 1211 since they didn't change the name, so they're probably confused as to why you're calling it differen't things. The excessive paraphases as breaks in your sentences also make your comment a bit confusing.
This patch is like that one cliché in which a protagonist thinks their friend is annoying and then finds out how important the friend really is before apologizing XD Edit: Also, I'd like to mention that this glitch was discovered by Gusten13. Here's his channel: th-cam.com/channels/VQYKAJLTRyOayihJLKxZGA.html.
it's not shown in the edit but was tested in the vod: the game acts like you have normal dream nail so activates the shield whenever you hit the kingsmould (which has some funny interactions with cdash) and you can't get to seer without activating the dream nail event so unfortunately we can't be given essence rewards without dream nail
That would be very weird, I just think they messed up the nail's interaction with most items in the game Maybe the game thinks the knight is d-nailing the chest, and that's why it doesn't work
Everything messed up in this patch was working in an earlier version, Team Cherry just forgot a few lines of code before releasing this patch, and as a result, this broken version of the game was out for a little under an hour before it was fixed.
This is the first skurry vid that’s been released since I subbed/watched one a skurry vid / played hollow knight and I’ve fallen in love with your vids Ive probably watched all of them at least twice and I just really like your content
Skurry, I have a video idea! You should play a game you've never played before that's terribly translated the first time through and then play it regularly translated after you're done with your first playthrough and see how much more it makes sense!
This is the patch that low% all major glitches is run on. By duping Monomon 3 times, only the initial kill would count as %, meaning that the minimum is 1%
i think only the triggers you can interact with w/o dream nail are the ones that work, while things you cant interact with dont. dreamers, hollow knight, white defender, GPZ and dream trees can all be interacted without the dream nail, whether by attaching THK or inspecting the dreamers / whispering roots, while with the warrior dreams there isnt anything there you can inspect. no clue about the falling platforms though
7:07 the dialog boxes are what you get when you Dream Nail the dreamers, so the game probably thought that the regular nail strike is a Dream Nail strike
I first played Hollow Knight in Winter 2017, and it was a on cracked build of the game I downloaded somewhere listed as the 'latest version'. I assumed for my entire playthrough that I couldn't unlock any of the chests I had found without some item or spell I was somehow missing. However, I didn't find it odd that I could strike the dreamers with the regular nail; I had already gotten the Dream Nail long before encountering any of them, and had assumed it worked by altering your default nail alongside having its own 'attack'. A couple months after my first playthrough I bought the game on Steam for a second playthrough, and by this point the 'Lifeblood' update had come out. It was only then did I realise how buggy my first playthrough was, as now chests just opened almost on their own and I couldn't use the regular nail to interact with dreamers anymore. But the real confusion kicked in when I went to Queen's Garden's, and I was convinced for a while that the devs had changed almost every platform in the level to fall when stepped on! Thanks for reminding me that wasn't all just a fever dream- I had almost forgotten any of that even happened in my first run, and had begun overwriting my memories with assumptions one would expect from the game today.
This so much feels like it was actually some incomplete version that somehow got submitted as the update at the last second, too late for anyone to change. It's just... so broken. So broken.
the patch still confuses me, how does so much stuff break? they must've changed some core part of the game (maybe some nail related componenet as a lot of broken stuff interacts with the nail)
There's since non-nail things that are broken like the platforms in Peaks. I wonder if they changed some generic event trigger subroutine to break so many things.
no cuz the check for awoken dream nail is still there, you just won't have to dream nail the corpse after you have it and instead can just smack it regularly but thats not a big time difference
The essence grind is for getting the Awoken Dreamnail, because only when you have it can you enter the White Palace. I'm pretty sure at some point during the stream they got to the Palace Grounds and hit the corpse of the Kingsmould, and it reacted the same way it would when hit with the dreamnail, but it didn't let them enter the dream. You need the Awoken Dreamnail still, so sadly, you'd still need to grind essence.
Wish you would have tried White Palace entrance, entering THK to fight Radiance (which I guess would rely on White Palace entrance working), and trying to get the dream nail after all the dreamers have been killed.
You probably couldn’t gather random essence from enemies, so you’d have to get it through other methods, which would probably give you more % then the current low% strat
i was confused on why they were doing any% and not the true ending, i only realized till they were at hollow knight that you need dream nail to get to radiance edit, 30 seconds later: nevermind i guess
You still need Awoken Dream Nail to access White Palace, and Seer doesn't activate until having Dream Nail, so this patch doesn't introduce a new lowest percent for TE Low%.
You need Voidheart for Sealed Siblings, which requires Awakened Dream Nail. The nail attack in this patch is only treated as the basic Dream Nail, not Awakened.
in this playthrough, the knight goes "screw this" and just stabs the dreamers
If I'm right you can just spell them
i mean, couldn't they just stab their s
asleep bodies without the dream nail?
Don’t you mean “nail this” :)
@@drbanana1535 i hate that i laughed. how dare you be funny
@@Garbo_trashcan there's a seal of binding
Went from “Wanky nail hit?! This patch is awesome” to “This patch is terrible, glad they changed it”
ikr lol
You mean wacky 😂
What nail hit 😨
@@Dockboy-ie4yu tomato tomato
@@mr.raphael1507 Wank means masturbate 😂
1 minute in: Oh, this will be a fun twist on the any% category, probably be a bit faster too!
Literally the next minute: Damn this patch sucks
When they said “where is the key for watcher knight chest” I instantly thought that would be a great addition to the randomizer. Chests requier keys that are also randomized, imagine the chaos
Oh my god, that's evil. There truly is no limit to the randomizer.
Chest keys, and door/lever keys.
What if a chest… contained its own key?
We need this right?
@@stalins_comically_large_spoon There is scripting in randomizers to prevent key items being locked behind their own checks - I.E. dream nail being dropped by a dream boss, or wings being locked behind a double jump gate. One method to do this is multiple copies of the critical value items, but that setting can be disabled and you shouldn't ever get a state where any item is completely unobtainable.
You don't need this "soul" or some "dream" when you have RAW POWER
JUST STAB INTO THE INSIDES OF THOSE DREAMERS
OPEN YOUR MIND? MORE LIKE OPEN YOUR SKULL
The best way to another person's mind is an open wound.
All battles are first won in the mind.
YOU ARE GODDAMN RIGHT
It's probably a pretty mind blowing experinence for the dreamers.
RAHHHH 🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️
If I remember correctly on this patch you could hit the ceiling in one part of the Hera area and access the dreamer
If I had to guess, they accidentally switched some properties with the normal nail and dream nail. I have a hunch that chests and bells will work just with dream nail instead
This feels like an April fools joke by team cherry, with the goofy glitch it definitely feels like it was intentional even though it isn’t.
team cherry had a bit of a reputation for being bad programmers. i hope with their hk money silksong'll be functional
@@zaidlacksalastname4905 that's so weird because I never had any issues with Hollow Knight-- and I have a mortifying track-record of breaking games... Especially on release!
I do think I remember hearing they hired a small team to assist with the workload which could include the programming stuff, since I think they did art in school and it's still their primary focus.
Also, not fair to say "hope Silksong will be functional" as if HK isn't. This patch was bad but like... the game itself wasn't ALWAYS like that LOL.
The only glitch I’ve had with current HK is getting softlocked into a wall by one of the elevators in the Soul Sanctum, but there’s not a single other glitch I found by just playing normally
@@Takapon218 I remember it being weirdly easy getting softlocked 9 months after release when I got the game, I got softlocked by riding the top of an elevator (my character kept sliding off though) when i was just messing around.
A while after they just put spikes in all the areas they couldn't bother fixing though.
@@Takapon218 I swear, some people are acting like it's weird the game was buggy on release, and that a bad patch that was only up for a bit accidently happened
This game has like 2 dlc's and a ton of content for 15 dollars, and I've seen like no issues on the current version
Plus, isn't team cherry like 3 ppl?
Ofc the new game had some issues and stuff, it's not the end
Imagine starting playing Hollow Knight right after this patch was released.
you wouldn't Play it for long
What funny is, scr mod XeroGoFast actually got to play on this exact patch, and activate grimm troupe with normal nailhit. Just so you know, this patch was the first Grimm troupe patch, and was out for 40ish minutes. Then 1211 was changed to a second 1211 (a typo from Team Cherry), on which Monnstah made first 106 run iirc, and then 1210 was released after like, 10 minutes of second 1211 being out. (Second 1211 was just mislabeled 1210 lmao). So now in speedrun community, some of us (including me, and I think I was the one to propose this) call different 1211 1211 X (the messed up one) and 1211 M (mislabeled one). Sorry for so much text lol
@@python1118 i understood none of what you just said
@@cheezballz8146 like, how much none? Like, at all, or you just didn't understood the general point of my message?
@@python1118 probably just the general point, it's pretty confusing if you don't already know that there's two versions of patch 1211 since they didn't change the name, so they're probably confused as to why you're calling it differen't things. The excessive paraphases as breaks in your sentences also make your comment a bit confusing.
I can't believe skurry actually improved at one point in the run
The knight be like: the dreamer? Yeah right, i know a way to wake you up. And then he just starts to poke the dreamers with the nail
The knight cdashed right into the Dream Realm because why the fuck not. I love it
Put on this video while untangling my fishing line with the hook still in the water and hooked a 2 foot carp. Not what I expected.
epic! carp are one of the coolest sharks.
@@cyberhonk2999 Not the shark, the slimy smelly ugly-faced fish
@cry about it username moment lol
Enter Skurry, a member of the society of masochists. Aka, a hollow knight speedrunner.
I'm sorry a member of what
This patch is like that one cliché in which a protagonist thinks their friend is annoying and then finds out how important the friend really is before apologizing XD
Edit: Also, I'd like to mention that this glitch was discovered by Gusten13. Here's his channel: th-cam.com/channels/VQYKAJLTRyOayihJLKxZGA.html.
I'm just saying this technically grants the opportunity for a NEW low% TE run with the actual lowest percent using any patch..
No, Awoken Dream Nail is still required so I don’t think any more percents can be skipped for True Ending
it's not shown in the edit but was tested in the vod: the game acts like you have normal dream nail so activates the shield whenever you hit the kingsmould (which has some funny interactions with cdash) and you can't get to seer without activating the dream nail event so unfortunately we can't be given essence rewards without dream nail
Imagine fighting the hollow khight not realizing what hornet was doing and randomly being teleported.
I like how in this patch the sealed siblings ending is impossible to achieve if you keep attacking
@@casualbird7671 you could use grimmchild and/or weaverlings
The dream nail box actually showed the hollow knights thoughts during the fight, which means its intentional
The soul economy has taken a big hit due to the loss of dream nail
Truly one of the patches of all time
Correct. That is a patch of all time.
Not the best, not the worst. Just the patch.
@@FranticFrog it truly is a patch
alternate title: skurry being grateful when anything works the way it normally does in this patch😭
the knight is now a dream
this also means they're too light to trigger things
What are the chances that you need dreamnail to open this watcher nights chest chests?
I feel like that might actually work
That would be very weird, I just think they messed up the nail's interaction with most items in the game
Maybe the game thinks the knight is d-nailing the chest, and that's why it doesn't work
Close to 0. Gusten13, who discovered this patch, tested every interaction with chest... Including thorns
When i first played this game i was surprised with how polished it was. It turns out that it wasn't always the case.
Sounds like most games that have betas/Alfa builds
Everything messed up in this patch was working in an earlier version, Team Cherry just forgot a few lines of code before releasing this patch, and as a result, this broken version of the game was out for a little under an hour before it was fixed.
@@will6162 *Alpha
@@BeALight-i3z the Chad Team Cherry patching in glitches and skips
This is the first skurry vid that’s been released since I subbed/watched one a skurry vid / played hollow knight and I’ve fallen in love with your vids Ive probably watched all of them at least twice and I just really like your content
Skurry, I have a video idea! You should play a game you've never played before that's terribly translated the first time through and then play it regularly translated after you're done with your first playthrough and see how much more it makes sense!
I agree, and i am commenting to get this comment to the top of the comment list so skurry sees u
That actually does sound super fun if they haven't done it already. (since it has been 6 months.)
Perfect amount of chaos.
This is the patch that low% all major glitches is run on. By duping Monomon 3 times, only the initial kill would count as %, meaning that the minimum is 1%
The real dream nail was inside you all along
i think only the triggers you can interact with w/o dream nail are the ones that work, while things you cant interact with dont. dreamers, hollow knight, white defender, GPZ and dream trees can all be interacted without the dream nail, whether by attaching THK or inspecting the dreamers / whispering roots, while with the warrior dreams there isnt anything there you can inspect.
no clue about the falling platforms though
I can’t believe Skurry didn’t do the explosive bubble room since bubbles don’t pop
Dream nail ambience shall forever haunt your dreams
7:07 the dialog boxes are what you get when you Dream Nail the dreamers, so the game probably thought that the regular nail strike is a Dream Nail strike
There is something especially eerie about fighting HK in almost dead silence
I first played Hollow Knight in Winter 2017, and it was a on cracked build of the game I downloaded somewhere listed as the 'latest version'. I assumed for my entire playthrough that I couldn't unlock any of the chests I had found without some item or spell I was somehow missing. However, I didn't find it odd that I could strike the dreamers with the regular nail; I had already gotten the Dream Nail long before encountering any of them, and had assumed it worked by altering your default nail alongside having its own 'attack'.
A couple months after my first playthrough I bought the game on Steam for a second playthrough, and by this point the 'Lifeblood' update had come out. It was only then did I realise how buggy my first playthrough was, as now chests just opened almost on their own and I couldn't use the regular nail to interact with dreamers anymore. But the real confusion kicked in when I went to Queen's Garden's, and I was convinced for a while that the devs had changed almost every platform in the level to fall when stepped on!
Thanks for reminding me that wasn't all just a fever dream- I had almost forgotten any of that even happened in my first run, and had begun overwriting my memories with assumptions one would expect from the game today.
This is what I was waiting for in my day boredom
This so much feels like it was actually some incomplete version that somehow got submitted as the update at the last second, too late for anyone to change. It's just... so broken. So broken.
And the legends say the sound never stopped even after the credits ended
Why am i even surprised by skurry at this point 😅.
Ah yess the no dream nail speedrun.
This is sooo possible without a path.
MOOOOOM, NEW SKURRY VIDEO JUST DROPPED
🔪Basically, the night just brute forces its way into the dream realm.🗡
if HK was made by Bethesda
At first I thought it didn’t make sense but then I found out it still doesn’t make sense
the patch still confuses me, how does so much stuff break? they must've changed some core part of the game (maybe some nail related componenet as a lot of broken stuff interacts with the nail)
There's since non-nail things that are broken like the platforms in Peaks. I wonder if they changed some generic event trigger subroutine to break so many things.
@@draikken_ In peaks you can use your nail to turn the platforms when they're upside down
Components don't break, they mix
Wait, true ending is possible without dream nail on this patch? Watch out birds....you thought you were safe now....
no they still got dream nail but thats not shown
They showed that they had no dream nail before the hk fight?
Now the real question: Does this negate essence grind for low% TE?
Only if it let's you into white palace
no cuz the check for awoken dream nail is still there, you just won't have to dream nail the corpse after you have it and instead can just smack it regularly but thats not a big time difference
Idk if you can dream nail white palace and your reflection without the dreamnail
The essence grind is for getting the Awoken Dreamnail, because only when you have it can you enter the White Palace. I'm pretty sure at some point during the stream they got to the Palace Grounds and hit the corpse of the Kingsmould, and it reacted the same way it would when hit with the dreamnail, but it didn't let them enter the dream. You need the Awoken Dreamnail still, so sadly, you'd still need to grind essence.
Next video: beating hollow knight without jumping
but what if you go true ending ?. nvm cant believe skurry also did it, theyre a beast
Omg a new Skurry video!?!? Best day ever!!!! (since the last Skurry video)
Beat hollow knight without masked shards and vessel fragment
I feel like this has been banned from NMG because the entire patch constitutes a major glitch.
The "- I think I forgot about something - If you forgot about something it wasn't important" patch
Wish you would have tried White Palace entrance, entering THK to fight Radiance (which I guess would rely on White Palace entrance working), and trying to get the dream nail after all the dreamers have been killed.
skurry speedrun getting nailsmaster glory
If exitting at right time when battling abs. Rad via dream nail, the shake and glow effect stays
here hoping to see a bunch of bugs like this when silksong comes out
Me in deepnest: ah Im dead ) the creatures : Skurry u dog !
I don’t think cutting the dream trees helps them grow
Wait wouldn’t this mean you can do low% te without dream nail?
I'm pretty sure you still need dream nail for te
@@arfurpups1805 they got into the radi fight at the end of the video so it should be possible
You probably couldn’t gather random essence from enemies, so you’d have to get it through other methods, which would probably give you more % then the current low% strat
@@DesTr069 oh yeah you have a point
@@vaultedhollow I'm pretty sure they just gave themselves Void Heart in the debug menu, not actually legit got it
Cant wait for TE no dreamnail run
i was confused on why they were doing any% and not the true ending, i only realized till they were at hollow knight that you need dream nail to get to radiance
edit, 30 seconds later: nevermind i guess
the real question is if low% TE works on this patch...
The fact that nothing triggers is probably why this patch was banned form NMG runs. ^^;
Finally early to a video. Love your content, keep up the good work
1:04 you can see a viewer mention how Xbox Twitter had confirmed a 2023 Silksong release
do a random button mapping for each room
i just watched this vod yesterday
This has to be the most scuffed version of the game I've seen yet
You're *not* Rusty; you're Skurry.
Does dream nail increase completion %? If so, I have bad news for you skurry (and the birds)
You still need Awoken Dream Nail to access White Palace, and Seer doesn't activate until having Dream Nail, so this patch doesn't introduce a new lowest percent for TE Low%.
hear me out, minimal % without dream nail
The knight just says who need progression
Smallest but also the biggest handicap
Fighting Radiant without Dream Nail is Dream No More^2
I stopped watching for a bit when Skurry didn't curse then got a major culture shock
If you don't quit out, maybe the dreamers dialogues box and sound stacks hahahaha
This patch was made on bring your kid to work day
Did you try birthplace cutscene?
now the question is can you get the fog canyon charm notch without breaking any of the explodey bubbles
Wait could you enter White Palace with your nail before getting Awoken Dream Nail?
sadly no you need awoken dnail with requires normal dnail
This is a really good patch
The weirdest speedrun what i ever seen in my life
now low precent can be even lower
Hornet said "Git gud" so I did
SKURRY I LOVE YOU
Oh yeah i saw fireborn cover this and its fucking op
Oh this glitches patch! Very cool.
Ok
I wonder what True Ending is like in this patch
Why I expected you to try this out some day when I heard about the patch?
"this has been banned in NMG, but I don't know why"
maaaybe cuz it is a major glitch
just a guess
Wdym this is just normal hollow knight
can you enter radiance/ do awoken dreamnail stuff with ur normal nail? if so lowte run on this patch when?
Can you do the sealed siblings ending without dream nail or would you enter radiance?
You can also just wait once Hornet helps. (At least, that’s what happens in current patch.)
You need Voidheart for Sealed Siblings, which requires Awakened Dream Nail. The nail attack in this patch is only treated as the basic Dream Nail, not Awakened.
Ok both valid answers. Thanks
Wait wouldn't that be big for low %?
Yes?
it might be for lower % with major glitches, but not for normal low % runs
No, because Awoken Dream Nail is still required for True Ending, it doesn’t let you skip any more percents
Oh, you meant regular Low%, I’m sorry I just defaulted to thinking Low% TE instead
Skurry can you do randomiser + bingo but each time you mark off a square on the bingo card you get a random item
Can TE be done on this patch without Dream Nail? Or is Awoken Dream Nail still required for White Palace and/or Hollow's face?
Speedrun the game with this patch
NEW SKURRY VIDEOOO!!!!
Can you do any of the champion ghost fights?