Twas surely a faith-promoting testimony 🙏 Thank you, Sister Gardner! And thank you, Hank and John, for referring me back to this episode after an excellent episode on The Family!
I just finished listening to parts 1 & 2 for D&C 84 and my heart runneth over! How much the Spirit has taught me through the knowledge and testimony of you three. Can't thank you enough - bless you all.
Wow I was blown away by Dr. Gardeners insight into the Priesthood and what it really means for women. I have always felt that as women God would not exhalt men above women in any way. But I feel closer to my Father in Heaven knowing I exercise and have access to Priesthood power. I am strengthened as His daughter. Thank you Hank Smith and John Bytheway. I cannot wait to listen to you each week. I want to live the gospel more fully.
SOOOOOOOO GOOOOD!!!! I love hearing a women's perspective on the priesthood. This helps me to know what & how to teach my children all the many things I have not known or understood till now. Thank you Barbara for sharing all you have studied and learned. ❤️
Listening to this has been wonderful. It has opened my eyes to many ideas that I haven't considered but more importantly it has given voice and words to what I have known through the Spirit throughout much of my life. The Spirit teaches so well and then the Lord lets us, if we will, catch up in understanding and application. How fortunate we are to have our second estate and the time to learn these things line upon line.
Listening while I'm cooking. So happy I found this amazing podcast. Thank you very much for your kindness and wonderful effort. My understanding about the Priesthood has deepened. ❤🥰
Wow! I know I don't everything about the Gospel, but you have enlightened a lot of the points of doctrine that I just didn't realize! What a treasure these podcasts are!!! Thank you!!! Dr. Gardner is fantastic, as well as the other guest teachers.
This was so enlightening! Thank you for your knowledge and sharing it with us, Barbara. I love truth and light and gaining more understanding from it. Thank you, Hank and John for your humility and questions and additions!
I’ve never felt that I was second class in Heavenly Father’s kingdom. Especially while in the temple. Now I know why. Thank you so much you three. This has been wonderful.
My understanding has been increased through this podcast as well as each one that I have heard. I also recommend Dr. Gardner’s book “The Priesthood Power of Women.” Her work is a spiritual feast! Thanks to Hank Smith and John Bytheway for your incredible work in helping others, including youth, to understand the beautiful truths of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ!
Thank you for such an eye opener, very insightful... Being new to the faith & really not knowing as much, but I am learning ( I come as an older person of 72 & I love what the Savor of Jesus Christ & Heavenly Father is letting me know what I need to know) thank you, I trust in Him more & more everyday & He has showed me how to carry myself in His name... These Podcast & TH-cam have done so much for me. I walk & listen for the 1 1/2hrs. Thank you again...
such a powerful testimony! No wonder she talks so fast... she has so much knowledge in her brain wanting to get out! She is truly the epitome of a sister scriptorian like President Kimball encouraged.
So incredible! Sister Gardner makes me want to learn so much more. Thank you. You even passed up my personal favorite of “angels to bear you up” in verses 87-88 without me being at all disappointed ❤️
It was actually mentioned in part 1, don't know the time stamp exactly but something to the effect of when we renew our covenants at sacrament, we then have the privilege of the ministering of angels,etc.
I was riveted to Dr. Gardner's comments. Very insightful. I would like every Latter Day Saint to be schooled and taught about this subject. She was very careful to use scripture, i.e., talks, prophets to back up her thoughts. It felt "right".
In the 80's I moved to Salt Lake and attended a relief society where the lesson was about how we as women can support the priesthood. It started out with the covenant that we sister made in the Temple to our husband to obey him... then quickly turned to women laughing and saying that manipulate their husband's to believe that that the husband has an idea, and she is obeying him... where it was her idea and she is just making him believe it was his
So much excellence! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us! I feel enlightened and armed with so much more to study , pray and learn from what was shared here. Thanks!!
I know you have the transcripts advailable. But I wish you would comply all these podcast into a book we could buy. The treasure of information in each episode is priceless.
I agree that most men and women have absolutely no idea of women and the priesthood. That fact begs the question, WHY? My answer is because that is not the way the church taught about the priesthood in conferences or anyplace else. When will this material be added to the manuals and when will it be explained this clearly from our leaders??
I love Moses 6:59-60. It is not possible to give womanhood all the rights and blessings that come from God and legal authority without diminishing the nobility of Gods other grand creation manhood. She brings into the world the spirits. He makes it possible for the spirits to return to Heavenly Father through Priesthood Ordinances
As always, your podcast is wonderful and I always learn so much This week’s lesson is so incredible that I’ve already listened to both episodes twice. Can the three of you please just come teach the gospel doctrine lesson in my ward this week in my behalf? Wonderful work, thank you!
Men and women often do not understand priesthood. Men and women also often do not understand motherhood. Women are given motherhood from birth. All girls and women are mothers, whether they have children or not. Men must be given priesthood. We talk about priesthood power, but we often forget motherhood power. That is likely why women can enter the temple without being ordained to the priesthood. They do not hold the priesthood, they hold the motherhood. We need girls and women who hold their motherhood, who cherish their motherhood, who exercise their motherhood, and who magnify their motherhood.
I know you mean your assertion to be enlightening and helpful, but I can only accept it as a traditional opinion and not necessarily doctrinally accurate (regardless of what anyone has said). I have never come across a scripture in which the Savior teaches that all women are mothers or given motherhood from birth, nor that it is the companion to the priesthood. The companion of priesthood is priestesshood (hierarchical) and the companion of motherhood is fatherhood (familial). I also feel safe in asserting that no woman who doesn't have children is comforted or enlightened by any male telling her she doesn't understand motherhood and that no woman is comforted or enlightened or even agrees that although she's childless she's still a mother. People in the Church keep saying it, but it is of no comfort and not actually true. Continually repeating that women are given motherhood from birth doesn't make it true. Women are given the plumbing to become mothers after which time they could experience motherhood (same as the timing and situation of when men could experience fatherhood). You could also become mother/father by adoption, but it's not automatic. The idea that females are born with motherhood and that it's equal to the priesthood power granted to men contributes to the false pedistalization of the mothers of men among other notions. No one is shocked by the following: I have no children. This caused me to go through adulthood without generating those specific bonding experiences or feelings related to motherhood. I don't feel motherly toward my nieces and nephews or other unrelated children. I do feel compassion and care toward them, but those feelings aren't exclusive to "motherhood." Men also feel compassion and care. The Savior (a male) was an example of compassion and care, yet, He was not a mother. Just because I taught children in Primary didn't make me a "nurturing mother" otherwise, it would make all the male primary teachers nurturing mothers too. My priesthood (priestesshood) endowment of power was given to me in the temple. Motherhood is not something I'll experience in this life. Wish we could all be more careful about perpetuating the tradition that priesthood = motherhood or that being female automatically makes one a mother.
She talks a little about this idea in the first part where she said the role of "nurturer" in the family proclamation for the mother means being the primary one responsible for gospel teaching in the home, not changing diapers and taking care of the kids in that way. So this older idea of women needing to be a stay at home mom or being a doting mom as nurturing isn't a bad one, but is also not exactly their point either.
President Nelson in October 2018 Women's Session: Through the years, whenever I have been asked why I chose to become a medical doctor, my answer has always been the same: “Because I could not choose to be a mother.” Please note that anytime I use the word mother, I am not talking only about women who have given birth or adopted children in this life. I am speaking about all of our Heavenly Parents’ adult daughters. Every woman is a mother by virtue of her eternal divine destiny."
@@MelissaSmith320Sycamore I love President Nelson and he has done much for the empowerment of women in the Church. I accept him as a prophet, seer and revelator. I also accept him as a human who might have stated something not quite perfectly yet. The prophets have published a statement in May 2007 saying so, which starts, "Not every statement made by a church leader..." (newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/approaching-mormon-doctrine). If we are to accept the logic that "every woman is a mother by virtue of her eternal divine destiny," then by that same "divine destiny" logic, every person is now a God by virtue of their eternal divine destiny. However, we also learn in the temple that we are at this time only "anointed to become such" in our eternal destinies. There are certain things we have to do first in order to obtain our eternal divine destinies. Otherwise, why would the Church have made it such a point that women who didn't have or get to raise children in this life would have the opportunity in the next? Why is "increase" the name of the eternal game if you can be a mother (parent) without children? This debate is good and I appreciate the opportunity to work together to dig into the details in our search for truth.
There is an indication of the idea for women participating in the blessings of the priesthood when we read in the Bible that the " prophetess" says or does something.
Absolutely love these podcasts, just one quick question - if early church Sisters were given the ability to perform blessings of healing with the Prophet Joseph's nod and expectation for them to do so, why did this practice cease?
they talk about this a little in the gospel topics essays, the one about Joseph Smith's Teachings About Priesthood, Temple and Women. In short, they moved away from it over time, and I know that a current prophet always trumps a former prophet...so it doesn't say exactly why but that they slowly moved away from it and then Heber J Grant said not to do it... I have a couple theories but they're just theories. I've learned it's okay to ask questions and it's also okay to say I don't know the answer to that question.
You use the term vice-presider. Which would be more accurate; vice (as 2nd in command) or co-presider. As a 66 year old woman, I am trying to wrap my head around this concept. What I got from your podcast is the more correct terminology would be "co" but am I wrong in this understanding?
I love these podcasts and have learned so much by delving deeper into the scriptures. I'm enjoying learning about the background of each revelation. Thank you. 💖 I have a personal question for Dr. Gardner. Ever since you were on this podcast the 1st time, I've been wondering if you're any relationship to the Barbara Morgan Gardner on the BYU Come Follow Up series? Watching from a cell phone you look the same but different. 🤔 I would guess no, if these programs are recorded about the same time. Thanks. Confused in Colorado. 💞
Yes same person. She referenced her book in the beginning “The Priesthood Power of Women” by Barbara Morgan Gardner. I’ve started it and it’s a goodie.
Twas surely a faith-promoting testimony 🙏 Thank you, Sister Gardner! And thank you, Hank and John, for referring me back to this episode after an excellent episode on The Family!
Thank you for these two sessions. Dr. Gardner is amazing.
Barbara you are wonderful and amazing! Love listening to you and definitely a perfect guest for Doctrine and Covenants 84. Thank you John and Hank 😊
Whoooaww! What a testimony and what a legacy you are leaving with your family and all of us. THANK YOU Sis Gardner! 💖
You describe my life in your testimony, thank you for validating me
I just finished listening to parts 1 & 2 for D&C 84 and my heart runneth over! How much the Spirit has taught me through the knowledge and testimony of you three. Can't thank you enough - bless you all.
EXcellent - thank you Dr. Gardner.
Wow I was blown away by Dr. Gardeners insight into the Priesthood and what it really means for women. I have always felt that as women God would not exhalt men above women in any way. But I feel closer to my Father in Heaven knowing I exercise and have access to Priesthood power. I am strengthened as His daughter. Thank you Hank Smith and John Bytheway. I cannot wait to listen to you each week. I want to live the gospel more fully.
Beautiful lesson! Sister Gardner is a spiritual giant. Thanks for all the hard work Brother Smith and Brother Bytheway.
SOOOOOOOO GOOOOD!!!! I love hearing a women's perspective on the priesthood. This helps me to know what & how to teach my children all the many things I have not known or understood till now. Thank you Barbara for sharing all you have studied and learned. ❤️
Listening to this has been wonderful. It has opened my eyes to many ideas that I haven't considered but more importantly it has given voice and words to what I have known through the Spirit throughout much of my life. The Spirit teaches so well and then the Lord lets us, if we will, catch up in understanding and application. How fortunate we are to have our second estate and the time to learn these things line upon line.
Love Barbara Gardner so much! Anxiously awaiting you all to have her on again very soon.
Amazing eye opening podcast! Thank you Dr Gardner!!
Listening while I'm cooking. So happy I found this amazing podcast. Thank you very much for your kindness and wonderful effort. My understanding about the Priesthood has deepened. ❤🥰
Wow! I know I don't everything about the Gospel, but you have enlightened a lot of the points of doctrine that I just didn't realize! What a treasure these podcasts are!!! Thank you!!! Dr. Gardner is fantastic, as well as the other guest teachers.
This was so enlightening! Thank you for your knowledge and sharing it with us, Barbara. I love truth and light and gaining more understanding from it. Thank you, Hank and John for your humility and questions and additions!
I’ve never felt that I was second class in Heavenly Father’s kingdom. Especially while in the temple. Now I know why. Thank you so much you three. This has been wonderful.
My whole understanding is continually spun around from these podcasts and I can't get enough!
I will be pondering these for years to come.
My understanding has been increased through this podcast as well as each one that I have heard. I also recommend Dr. Gardner’s book “The Priesthood Power of Women.” Her work is a spiritual feast! Thanks to Hank Smith and John Bytheway for your incredible work in helping others, including youth, to understand the beautiful truths of the restored gospel of Jesus Christ!
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang! Sister Gardiner, supreme podcast and your book is equally amazing. Thank you! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for such an eye opener, very insightful... Being new to the faith & really not knowing as much, but I am learning ( I come as an older person of 72 & I love what the Savor of Jesus Christ & Heavenly Father is letting me know what I need to know) thank you, I trust in Him more & more everyday & He has showed me how to carry myself in His name... These Podcast & TH-cam have done so much for me. I walk & listen for the 1 1/2hrs. Thank you again...
Wow. Wow. Wow. Thank you.
please have Sister Gardner back again...and Brother Sweat....and Brother Harper....well just everybody!
Priceless information. Thank you for bringing her to us!
such a powerful testimony! No wonder she talks so fast... she has so much knowledge in her brain wanting to get out! She is truly the epitome of a sister scriptorian like President Kimball encouraged.
So incredible! Sister Gardner makes me want to learn so much more. Thank you. You even passed up my personal favorite of “angels to bear you up” in verses 87-88 without me being at all disappointed ❤️
It was actually mentioned in part 1, don't know the time stamp exactly but something to the effect of when we renew our covenants at sacrament, we then have the privilege of the ministering of angels,etc.
Thanks for this class 🙏
Another great episode!! But who in the heck gives a thumbs down?? Not this guy!!
Thank you thank you for this. I felt the Spirit, and learned a lot.
I was riveted to Dr. Gardner's comments. Very insightful. I would like every Latter Day Saint to be schooled and taught about this subject. She was very careful to use scripture, i.e., talks, prophets to back up her thoughts. It felt "right".
I Love this podcast so much about the Priesthood, Book Of Mormon, Consider the lilies... love it! Thank you so much!
In the 80's I moved to Salt Lake and attended a relief society where the lesson was about how we as women can support the priesthood. It started out with the covenant that we sister made in the Temple to our husband to obey him... then quickly turned to women laughing and saying that manipulate their husband's to believe that that the husband has an idea, and she is obeying him... where it was her idea and she is just making him believe it was his
So much excellence! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us! I feel enlightened and armed with so much more to study , pray and learn from what was shared here. Thanks!!
I know you have the transcripts advailable. But I wish you would comply all these podcast into a book we could buy. The treasure of information in each episode is priceless.
Please, please, please!!!!!!!
Barbara does have an excellent book called The Priesthood Power of Women, and she covers a lot of this information (and a little more)!
Thank you for sharing
Thank you!
I agree that most men and women have absolutely no idea of women and the priesthood. That fact begs the question, WHY? My answer is because that is not the way the church taught about the priesthood in conferences or anyplace else. When will this material be added to the manuals and when will it be explained this clearly from our leaders??
I love Moses 6:59-60. It is not possible to give womanhood all the rights and blessings that come from God and legal authority without diminishing the nobility of Gods other grand creation manhood.
She brings into the world the spirits. He makes it possible for the spirits to return to Heavenly Father through Priesthood Ordinances
Love!♥️
As always, your podcast is wonderful and I always learn so much This week’s lesson is so incredible that I’ve already listened to both episodes twice. Can the three of you please just come teach the gospel doctrine lesson in my ward this week in my behalf? Wonderful work, thank you!
I really enjoy and learn from your podcast. Ask Will how to pronounce his last name and I'm sure he'll be glad to tell you.
Men and women often do not understand priesthood. Men and women also often do not understand motherhood. Women are given motherhood from birth. All girls and women are mothers, whether they have children or not.
Men must be given priesthood. We talk about priesthood power, but we often forget motherhood power. That is likely why women can enter the temple without being ordained to the priesthood. They do not hold the priesthood, they hold the motherhood.
We need girls and women who hold their motherhood, who cherish their motherhood, who exercise their motherhood, and who magnify their motherhood.
I know you mean your assertion to be enlightening and helpful, but I can only accept it as a traditional opinion and not necessarily doctrinally accurate (regardless of what anyone has said). I have never come across a scripture in which the Savior teaches that all women are mothers or given motherhood from birth, nor that it is the companion to the priesthood. The companion of priesthood is priestesshood (hierarchical) and the companion of motherhood is fatherhood (familial). I also feel safe in asserting that no woman who doesn't have children is comforted or enlightened by any male telling her she doesn't understand motherhood and that no woman is comforted or enlightened or even agrees that although she's childless she's still a mother. People in the Church keep saying it, but it is of no comfort and not actually true. Continually repeating that women are given motherhood from birth doesn't make it true. Women are given the plumbing to become mothers after which time they could experience motherhood (same as the timing and situation of when men could experience fatherhood). You could also become mother/father by adoption, but it's not automatic. The idea that females are born with motherhood and that it's equal to the priesthood power granted to men contributes to the false pedistalization of the mothers of men among other notions. No one is shocked by the following: I have no children. This caused me to go through adulthood without generating those specific bonding experiences or feelings related to motherhood. I don't feel motherly toward my nieces and nephews or other unrelated children. I do feel compassion and care toward them, but those feelings aren't exclusive to "motherhood." Men also feel compassion and care. The Savior (a male) was an example of compassion and care, yet, He was not a mother. Just because I taught children in Primary didn't make me a "nurturing mother" otherwise, it would make all the male primary teachers nurturing mothers too. My priesthood (priestesshood) endowment of power was given to me in the temple. Motherhood is not something I'll experience in this life. Wish we could all be more careful about perpetuating the tradition that priesthood = motherhood or that being female automatically makes one a mother.
@@margiedetiege850 beautiful response
She talks a little about this idea in the first part where she said the role of "nurturer" in the family proclamation for the mother means being the primary one responsible for gospel teaching in the home, not changing diapers and taking care of the kids in that way. So this older idea of women needing to be a stay at home mom or being a doting mom as nurturing isn't a bad one, but is also not exactly their point either.
President Nelson in October 2018 Women's Session: Through the years, whenever I have been asked why I chose to become a medical doctor, my answer has always been the same: “Because I could not choose to be a mother.”
Please note that anytime I use the word mother, I am not talking only about women who have given birth or adopted children in this life. I am speaking about all of our Heavenly Parents’ adult daughters. Every woman is a mother by virtue of her eternal divine destiny."
@@MelissaSmith320Sycamore I love President Nelson and he has done much for the empowerment of women in the Church. I accept him as a prophet, seer and revelator. I also accept him as a human who might have stated something not quite perfectly yet. The prophets have published a statement in May 2007 saying so, which starts, "Not every statement made by a church leader..." (newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/approaching-mormon-doctrine). If we are to accept the logic that "every woman is a mother by virtue of her eternal divine destiny," then by that same "divine destiny" logic, every person is now a God by virtue of their eternal divine destiny. However, we also learn in the temple that we are at this time only "anointed to become such" in our eternal destinies. There are certain things we have to do first in order to obtain our eternal divine destinies. Otherwise, why would the Church have made it such a point that women who didn't have or get to raise children in this life would have the opportunity in the next? Why is "increase" the name of the eternal game if you can be a mother (parent) without children? This debate is good and I appreciate the opportunity to work together to dig into the details in our search for truth.
There is an indication of the idea for women participating in the blessings of the priesthood when we read in the Bible that the " prophetess" says or does something.
Where in the scriptures can I find where you said "God confirmed that Eve's decision was critical?" Thank you
2 Nephi 2:22-25
Moses 5:10-11
Absolutely love these podcasts, just one quick question - if early church Sisters were given the ability to perform blessings of healing with the Prophet Joseph's nod and expectation for them to do so, why did this practice cease?
they talk about this a little in the gospel topics essays, the one about Joseph Smith's Teachings About Priesthood, Temple and Women. In short, they moved away from it over time, and I know that a current prophet always trumps a former prophet...so it doesn't say exactly why but that they slowly moved away from it and then Heber J Grant said not to do it... I have a couple theories but they're just theories. I've learned it's okay to ask questions and it's also okay to say I don't know the answer to that question.
You use the term vice-presider. Which would be more accurate; vice (as 2nd in command) or co-presider.
As a 66 year old woman, I am trying to wrap my head around this concept. What I got from your podcast is the more correct terminology would be "co" but am I wrong in this understanding?
I love these podcasts and have learned so much by delving deeper into the scriptures. I'm enjoying learning about the background of each revelation. Thank you. 💖
I have a personal question for Dr. Gardner. Ever since you were on this podcast the 1st time, I've been wondering if you're any relationship to the Barbara Morgan Gardner on the BYU Come Follow Up series?
Watching from a cell phone you look the same but different. 🤔 I would guess no, if these programs are recorded about the same time.
Thanks.
Confused in Colorado. 💞
Yes same person. She referenced her book in the beginning “The Priesthood Power of Women” by Barbara Morgan Gardner. I’ve started it and it’s a goodie.
U no