FREEOK 2013 - Seth Andrews: "Get Them While They're Young"
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- On June 22nd, 2013 at Oklahoma City's Cox Convention Center, over 500 gathered for the 2013 Oklahoma Freethought Convention (FREEOK). Speakers included Sean Faircloth, Dale McGowan, Emily Boyer, Zack Kopplin, Seth Andrews and Lawrence Krauss. (Jamila Bey was scheduled but could not attend due to a conflict. She dialed into the conference A/V system, but her presentation could not be recorded for the TH-cam videos.)
FREEOK 2013 was sponsored by the American Humanist Association, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, and Oklahoma Atheists.
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Seth, your father's response breaks my heart. I am always saddened to see people pick their dogma over their own children.
Seth... the moment from your father's letter broke my heart. Mine's gone and he died not knowing I rejected all of his religious teaching; for that I'm grateful, just in case he would have said that to me.
That Jesus Camp stuff scares me every time. It is absolutely fucking INSANE. I feel so bad for those kids.
Koltiras Rip so do i. I'm a survivor and an ex believer and so many childhoods have been destroyed by it
My mother and father never got married. For the first half of my life I would go between them - up until I was about 8 years old (I'm 16 years old now btw) but once my step-mother entered the picture my dad won total custody. Now, my mother was - and still is, to my knowledge - in med school. She taught me to question EVERYTHING - I figured out that santa was bullshit at 5 years old. So when my religious step-mother tried to send me to bible camp when I was 9, I didn't fall for it. My mother is a very flawed person and has dealt with substance abuse since she was a child, but she's got a brilliant mind, and I'm glad to have inherited it.
God, I went to one of those camps back when I was a believer. I wore some bracelets with some music logos on them, and the pastor pulled them right off of my wrists while we were doing the same shit in that video. Later he came up to me with them in his hand and asked if he could have them and I reluctantly said yes. I was a dumb kid.
Having been brought up in a different country, I'm glad we don't have that in my country (or at least it's not as prominent). Worst we had was this: we lived in a very rural town (300 people), so the church youth group was more like a way to play with other kids, but the priest was not restricting us, we played as normal kids, "build a wood hut in the forest" (with the priest helping), "cowboys & indians", and so on. So yes, there was indoctrination in the sense they were teaching us the bible, but they were not pushing it outside of the church classes.
I have to thank you too. I grew up in an Greek Orthodox family and I just get rid of all these fairy tales at the age of 18. Your videos have been so motivational to me. With this video of your talk and after this terrible scene of child abuse, I will definetely fight for my thoughts, my prospect of reality and my dream for a better world. Don't stop motivating people like me and making them to throw away their blinders. :)
Seth I'm so sorry to hear about the situation with you and your father. It truly made me cry. I kept my atheism secret from my family because it would have been the same situation. I hate how religion destroys families and thinking minds.
Seth you are amazing! Thank you for sharing this with us!
Seth, everything you said deeply resonated with me. I was indoctrinated into the Mormon church at such a young age I can't even remember when it started. That was "my" normal. I too was in my thirties when I finally began to think for myself. My greatest hope is that it is not too late to teach my children how to think for themselves. Thank you for putting such a fine point on it.
The Definition of a Fairy Tale
A fairy tale is commonly a short story often told to children. Fairy tales may be told in fun, or may be used as a tool to help cope with loss or to explain the workings of the world to a child. A fantasy setting is used to define a scenario or to amuse the listeners for a short period of time. They include fanciful things such as magic, royalty, dragons, and animals that talk and act like humans. Insightful listeners could detect moral lessons in even some of the more obscure fairy tales.
Never in a million years would my parents have thought to teach me that Peter Pan or Mary Poppins was anything but a work of fiction. Yet they tried to teach me that everything within the bible was real.
That isn't Salvation you trying to give me, its Schizophrenia.
You weren't alone 🤔
Yes indeed. The gift of mental illness. I’ve been given it through religious indoctrination. Best form of child abuse out there. Endless nightmares of Armegeddon and me being destroyed because of my refusal to believe in their delusions. Yes religion is a disease far worse then cancer.
I loved Veggie Tales as a kid. It still has a fond place in my heart. I still sing so many of their secular songs (and sometimes get the religious ones stuck in my head). It's probably my fondest religious memory. Now, if I had been raised a freethinker and were never exposed to the show, my life wouldn't have been any worse, but the memories are still some of the happiest of my childhood.
Brilliant work, Seth, some of your best. I can't vote this up high enough.
"A personal relationship with... reality." I love it! Good stuff Seth.
One of the most eloquent trains of thought I've ever heard. I will be stealing much from this in my talks with others. Thank you.
You're the man Seth, I'm an African American former Muslim turned Atheist and I owe it all to your podcast. Thanks man
I know you'll probably never read this, but THANK YOU Seth! No other words can sum up everything you've done to help make my life better... listening to & learning from an intelligent person always helps. Thanks again.
Great video. I am 16 years old and it is sad to me that the majority of people in my community, or in the world rather, do not think for themselves but rather mindlessly absorb anything they are told.
Seth! This is the best! Thoroughly entertaining!
Man, that was a beautiful speech. Good stuff!
I had tears in my eyes by the time thi was over. I'm dying to share this with the people I know ... but I'm so very afraid to go public with my atheism. I live in fear each day ... but one day, I will proclaim it. Loud and proud.
Hi Seth. I have just begun watching the above talk and I have also just bought and downloaded the audiobook version of "Deconverted: A Journey from Religion to Reason" from Audible UK (and intend to listen to the entire thing today). Well, that's my Sunday sorted out. Thanks for everything Seth. I never tire of listening to you speak.
Having the best time watching your catalogue
Thank you for this and all you do, Seth. So very happy I found your work.
5:28 Just when I was forgetting to be ashamed of my home state...
Another amazing video. What a great presentation. I work for an organisation in the UK which promotes science and I am so glad you do this.
Seth is a monumental speaker
One of the things that aids me in staying grounded in regards to how I relate to very religious people . My mother raised me alone working retail . This meant we never went to church . I was able to develop a confidence in my reckoning of reality , unlike so many others .
Seth, that was one of the most epic and awesome talks. So heartfelt, but funny and cogent at the same time. Thank you.
Terrific talk Seth. Thanks for sharing it with those of us who couldn't attend.
Seth once again you hit a home run ! Thank you so much for what you do, see you in Denver !
Well that "Welcome to This World" video just hurt me a bit. I grew up in the church, and I hold no animosity towards my parents who were doing their best to raise me as they were raised, but I pity anyone who tries to tell that crap to my daughter. Their day will be quite ruined.
Keep up the good fight Seth.
looking forward to next year's, seth. you are inspirational as always
Great talk Seth. I recently reconverted my self. And more recently came out to my parents about my disbelief. My folks took it fairly well all things considered. I am grateful to you for your bold outlook it has helped to strengthen my resolve as well.
Every speach Seth does it seems that his voice gets bigger, and travels a longer distance. Wonderful talk, Seth.
A great and inspirational talk, thank you Seth!!!
The video at the end is absolutely brilliant.
Amazing work, looking forward to the rest in the que. :)
Outstanding. Very well done, Seth.
I saw this in person. It was awesome!!!!
Excellent speech. I can only imagine the pain of hearing a parent reject you on the basis of faith. Luckily my family doesn't seem to mind having at least two of three siblings to have turned away from the faith.
What a great video. Thanks, Seth!
Thank you Seth. I watched 4 videos in a row. I will finish rest tomorrow.
Loving your videos Seth! Binge watching them all week, that is what I have been doing... :) I have been a lifelong Atheist, so have my 2 brothers and both of my Parents after they stopped believing when I were about 6 years old - my Dad used to do Sunday Bible Classes for kids then something awoke in him and they chose to not force Religion upon us kids and let us decide for ourselves. :) THIS is what ALL parents SHOULD do!
What a magnificently awesome speech this was. It's just a shame that all too many theists will not ever see it.
Seth, you are awesome! Thanks for the video.
This is my 5th time listening to this video while cooking. Love it
Thank you, Seth.
Thank you Seth for this great video.
That story about his father is sad it's sad that his father treats him like that simply because of belief in an invisible man
Awsome! Thank you Seth!
Hello, you did a good job! Thanks for uploading these.
Fanastic speech!
Thank you Seth!
Thank you Seth, for everything you're doing
Thank you seth! You made me cry in the end..
PERFECT!
In the 70's, I was a Manager at McDonald's restaurants. Their marketing philosophy was the same. Get them as kids and you'll have a customer for life. Playlands, birthday parties, etc. - all geared to grabbing the kids, because if the kids yell loud enough, the parents will bring them to the restaurant. They did a survey and Ronald McDonald was more widely recognized by young children than Santa Claus. Back then they even had it quantified, each customer coming through the door was worth, on average, $120.00 per year in business. Worked for Big Mac, works for the church.
midtown44 It's worse for the church though, because liking MacDonalds atleast dosen't influence all of (or most of) your actions. Religion does.
Thanks Seth!
I can relate to Seth's family situation so, so very well.
Beautifully stated!
At least your children won't have to go through what your parents put you through. Thanks to the 'global village', the internet and videos like this one, religion is on the way out. Soon zealots will be in the minority, and will have to keep their beliefs to themselves or face the ridicule they deserve.
True, this kind of thinking is in an all time low due to the presence of the internet and being constantly challenged by different worldviews instead of living in a confirmation bias bubble.
Killer video Seth. Some of your best work. Keep rocking on!!!
brilliant work Seth
thank you man
excellent video
Just what I needed as a distraction this morning while I'm sick. Thanks, Seth! You were amazing as usual!
P.S. I was raised on Veggie Tales. That WAS my childhood! Damn am I embarrassed...
OUTSTANDING talk, Seth, brilliant, pointed and poignant!
Fantastic speech and videos. Please keep spreading the truth and passion for reality!
Love the video
I listen to all I can find.
My son's bff at age 5 was Bible Man for Halloween. My son was Anakin Skywalker. His friend, Ben was afraid to go up to a scary house "because he was pretty sure there were demons there. " My son got fed up and said," Jesus Christ, Ben! Don't you have more authority than that?" Omg, I nearly peed myself from laughing. My son had been watching Bible Man at their house, so they talked about "authority over evil." His Mom was not amused, though.
Am I the only one who remembers Davey & Goliath?
Nope ... you're not.
I do!
Wow thinking Atheist what a treat all of these Frree OK videos is a pleasant surprise this morning.
Seth you just keep getting better....
He's got one of the best radio voices ever.
His dad should be extremely proud of him. If he wants nothing to do with his own child, then it's his loss.
I remember when my mom made me promise to read the bible for the same amount of time that I had to study for philosophy class in high school because she was afraid that I would 'fall away from the faith'. That comment made me fall away more than the class did.
Credit where Credit is due, some of this shit has some crazy effort put in them.
I loved the ending. That brought a big beaming smile to my face.
That is such a good phrase. "A personal relationship with reality" So positive yet mocking one of their silly stock phrases.
My dad was Nazarene; we were raised Lutheran, my mother's religion. At 13, approaching communion I half expected to be struck by lightning because I didn't believe any of it. Haha, passed that hurdle, been thinking for myself ever since ...
more people should watch this
I was a Sunday School teacher, I helped out with youth activities, the church nursery, and so much more. I am truly sorry.
Thank you for undrestanding and recognizing the harm that is done, I've been angre at religions for the harm I've experienced in my life, I had not thought about the harm I caused other people during my involvment in religions and destructive groups.
You are a nice person
@@freedfromreligions611 thank you, I try to be now that I am awake.
I'm from central Europe and I grown up in an atheist family. So, everytime I saw Flandders family in The Simpsons I was like "That's just a funny exaggeration, that's not real, nobody can be like that in the real life." Well, I underestimate you America :-D
Yep. I was one of those trouble children that had the ability to question things...with good questions.
Seth, you are among my heroes. One day people will speak of you with the same reverence as Sagan..
Seth's video was so well produced that I almost overlooked the absurdity of the situation it presented me with.
How to become a christian...
Get born...
Submit to interminable propaganda from parents, church leaders, even teachers...
Get told a). you are a SINNER...
Get told b). Someone died for you to absolve you from sin...
Get told c). If you don't love that person, you go to everlasting _HELL_
You have to _love AND fear_ that person at the same time...
_FEEL_ Guilty... _FEEL_ unworthy... _FEEL_ like shit...
Congratulations! You're a christian!
You just put everything i was thinking into words. Even tho i have never been a believer in a god or gods. I still think Seth is a key member of the revaluation that needs to happen. He is a person one of good charisma and morals. We may not all think the same things as him but we will NEVER hate him for those things because he is a good guy that we can relate to.
Best Regards Thomas Jensen / Denmark
This is an excellent video lecture on the effects of religious indoctrination! Good job Seth!
Damn He does this well. Thanks Seth !
Absolutely excellent presentation! Reminded me of my confusing childhood and how fortunate and unlikely that I made it out of that nonsense.
Can I just say that "If you don't open your mouth, the holy spirit can't come" is the funniest sentence I've ever heard from a religious preacher.
The video's at the end were truly horrifying. Great presentation though.
I know of a church where when a child is born in the congregation, the saying is: "Another log for the hell fire". Very reassuring.
Must be very empathic and fun loving people...
it makes me very grateful to be born in a secular jewish home. i know, the fundamentalist jews are very hard core, but you'll never hear a fundamentalist jew telling to his child that he/she is a sinner or corrupt. that makes me cringe...
15:24 is so unbelievably fucking brilliant, I almost fell out of my chair laughing.
This talk ties in really closely with, "Christianity steals all the best ideas"
wait what.....cedar hill tx that insane ive lived there for a long and never knew til now
Thanks seth :D
As a Scottish person, I am contractually obligated to confirm that Nessie exists.
So does the Big Grey Man.
Please come here to see them and spends lots and lots of tourist money.
What are the documentaries on GUTS Church Hell House?