@FlyWithBruno - loved this video and subscribed to your channel. I am based at 39N Princeton and was looking for something not below class B or very high over JFK and drop immediately to KFRG. I will surely try this route as I have friends by KFRG.
I will add that this route definitely depends on controller work load. I flew this on a beautiful Sunday morning and went about 1/2 mile south of the “cab” because the views were definitely amazing. After passing the field the controller politely reiterated the route for “next time”. He also directed me overhead the TNB southern stanchion. Which is the vertical structure not the roadway. But I guess it really comes down to the controller on duty that day. Thanks for posting. This will help out many fellow aviators bc this is perhaps some of the most intimidating airspace. Try it on a Sunday or Saturday morning when the airspace is reasonably quiet.
You’re absolutely right, and thank you for adding these important remarks! I did fly this on a calm Saturday morning, which is one of the reasons I was able to do it. Fly safe and thanks for watching!
As a student pilot in the Hudson Valley, I love these videos. I have a ways to go until I become proficient enough for something like this, but this is a real inspiration. Thanks!
Super helpful video! I will use this next time I'm heading out to Long Island from CDW - Likely transition TEB and then join the Hudson southbound before starting the Throgs Neck transition. Will report back!
I’ve done the Hudson River corridor, special flight rules area a couple times, but I’ve never done it the way you’ve done it! Awesome Flight, and thanks so much for breaking it down. That must’ve been so incredible!
This route is great. I flew it into KFRG last year and got some good advice from the approach and tower controllers. They gave me a tip to call up KFRG on your second radio while you’re still in the bravo and talking to approach. This way tower already knows you’re coming and it’s a clean handoff from the bravo to the delta.
I did the same thing and flew over the displaced threshold and not the numbers. I got crushed by Newark ATC, kicked out of the Bravo and shamed. Our GPS showed we were basically right over the numbers but picking a fight with Newark wasn't something I wanted to do as a new pilot. I've never gone back.
Sorry to hear about your experience. I always make sure I’m over the numbers, and the displaced thresholds make it a bit tricky. I guess I’ve done it so many times it’s become second nature.
Very cool route. I did all my PPL training at FRG but left NYC shortly thereafter so I didn't get to fly too many places afterwards. Thx for posting Bruno.
Amazing video. Thanks for sharing. I sometimes fly across the whole country to head to FRG and usually choose to fly under the bravo on the south side but it sucks. I’ll try your route next time!
Generally throwing 7600 in the transponder and avoiding the other planes has worked pretty well. They haven't beat me to any of the airport's yet, and they can't track me if I paint over the callsign!
This was super helpful. My home airport is in CT and I've always wondered what the correct way was to get through NYC to PA. I've avoided flying west because the B is like a massive road block.
NY Class B controllers are exceptionally accommodating to VFR traffic. From east to west, you can easily get a Bravo clearance at 4500 or 6500 feet; opposite direction 5500, though they've let me in at 3500 as well. Then there's Bruno's trick, to use a helicopter route, but that's best if you're landing at one of the airports within or close to the lateral limits of the Bravo airspace. There are other options too, like 2500 feet, below the northern 3000 foot shelf, but you shouldn't see NY B as a "road block" at all.
No, once you’re in the Class B (Skyline Route) you have a squawk code and you’re with EWR & LGA Tower all the way. You’ll be ABOVE the SFRA, so no need to monitor 😉
Thanks! And yes, they can-if traffic inbound to or outbound from LGA would conflict with you. If they’re using runway 13 at LGA, it’s likely that you won’t get it. I recommend trying it on a weekend, when it’s slow and there’s less traffic around!
Awesome video. I was surprised you started by contacting EWR tower. I would have thought the first contact would have been with NY APP. Why EWR Tower, not NY APP?
Thank you, Jim! EWR TWR controls that whole sector (low altitudes) so I called them directly because my departure airport (SMQ) is just 20 miles West of them. But if you’re coming from the South or West, then you’d call NY APP first and they’d transfer you to TWR.
Thanks for the tip, was not aware of the Throgs neck transition! I fly out of CDW so very applicable. For your first call to EWR tower is that the main 118.3 frequency or something else? Thanks!
@@FlyWithBruno I did. We have nothing close to this in the UK. I see Chicago and San Francisco also have similar routes… I can feel a few more adventures coming on…
Really enjoyed learning about this. I lived on Long Island for the first 33 years of my life. I will say it took me a little bit to figure out that although the captions and sounds said "New York Tower" (what the hell is that??), it was supposed to be "Newark' Tower. Now, I feel stupid lololol. Bruno, I'm going to do this route soon, after my PPL (hopefully next month!!) and I'll be sure to give you a plug from @fly_douggiestyle
Hi, watching from rural Ireland, amazing to watch , that takes a lot of balls😎 enjoying your posts🤔😁
Awesome! Thank you!
They showed WTC its called Freedom Tower I thought, are they calling it WTC again or for people that don't know? Wondering..
@FlyWithBruno - loved this video and subscribed to your channel. I am based at 39N Princeton and was looking for something not below class B or very high over JFK and drop immediately to KFRG.
I will surely try this route as I have friends by KFRG.
Flew this today. Your video made it possible and at the end ATC said “good job”.
That’s awesome! Glad you got to do it!
So cool. I lived in Sunnyside and LIC for many years and I can't imagine flying over Queens especially that low. Amazing.
Glad you enjoyed it, Brian! I live in LIC for a year, loved it there!
Hearing "Somerset" make me smile wistfully. My late dad flew us all around the country from there, when we lived in NJ back in the late 60s/early 70s.
That’s so awesome 🙂 I moved to Somerset a year ago and love that airport!
th-cam.com/video/N5_m4gpDJtQ/w-d-xo.html@@FlyWithBruno I put this video together a while ago.
I will add that this route definitely depends on controller work load. I flew this on a beautiful Sunday morning and went about 1/2 mile south of the “cab” because the views were definitely amazing. After passing the field the controller politely reiterated the route for “next time”. He also directed me overhead the TNB southern stanchion. Which is the vertical structure not the roadway. But I guess it really comes down to the controller on duty that day. Thanks for posting. This will help out many fellow aviators bc this is perhaps some of the most intimidating airspace. Try it on a Sunday or Saturday morning when the airspace is reasonably quiet.
You’re absolutely right, and thank you for adding these important remarks! I did fly this on a calm Saturday morning, which is one of the reasons I was able to do it. Fly safe and thanks for watching!
As a student pilot in the Hudson Valley, I love these videos. I have a ways to go until I become proficient enough for something like this, but this is a real inspiration. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it, Ben! And good luck on your training! Fly safe!
I take off from linden airport so i will definitly use this!!!
I was based at LDJ for some time!
Super helpful video! I will use this next time I'm heading out to Long Island from CDW - Likely transition TEB and then join the Hudson southbound before starting the Throgs Neck transition. Will report back!
Glad it was helpful! Enjoy, Sam!
I’ve done the Hudson River corridor, special flight rules area a couple times, but I’ve never done it the way you’ve done it! Awesome Flight, and thanks so much for breaking it down. That must’ve been so incredible!
It’s definitely worth doing it! Thanks for watching and I’m glad you enjoyed it!
So cool man!! It’s really helpful video. Thank you 🫡
Glad you enjoyed it!
This route is great. I flew it into KFRG last year and got some good advice from the approach and tower controllers.
They gave me a tip to call up KFRG on your second radio while you’re still in the bravo and talking to approach. This way tower already knows you’re coming and it’s a clean handoff from the bravo to the delta.
That’s a great tip! Thanks for sharing!
That was me! Glad it helped 😁
@@0ffcamberxjI love how small the aviation world is! Thanks for the tip!
I did the same thing and flew over the displaced threshold and not the numbers. I got crushed by Newark ATC, kicked out of the Bravo and shamed. Our GPS showed we were basically right over the numbers but picking a fight with Newark wasn't something I wanted to do as a new pilot. I've never gone back.
Sorry to hear about your experience. I always make sure I’m over the numbers, and the displaced thresholds make it a bit tricky. I guess I’ve done it so many times it’s become second nature.
Fantastic video, clear explanation of your route and spectacular views. Thank you for sharing this!
Thank you, Ray! Glad you enjoyed it! 🙏
Very cool route. I did all my PPL training at FRG but left NYC shortly thereafter so I didn't get to fly too many places afterwards. Thx for posting Bruno.
I did my PPL and IFR there too! Thanks for watching, man. Love your channel!
Amazing video. Thanks for sharing. I sometimes fly across the whole country to head to FRG and usually choose to fly under the bravo on the south side but it sucks. I’ll try your route next time!
I used to do the same but had enough of dodging wake turbulence of planes coming into JFK. Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed!
Cool tip
Will use
Enjoy and fly safe!
Wow that was fancy flying and talking! Great job!
Thank you! It was epic!
Loved that "Bruno" shoutout. Was that the controller or another pilot? New York Controllers are the best in the country. So accomodating.
It was a NY Approach controller! They’re always awesome. Thanks for watching, Joe!
amazing flight, unique
Indeed!
Awesome job as always. I’m trying this tomorrow.
Thanks, man! Enjoy and fly safe!
Generally throwing 7600 in the transponder and avoiding the other planes has worked pretty well. They haven't beat me to any of the airport's yet, and they can't track me if I paint over the callsign!
😂😂😂
Fabulous video and excellent work all around Bruno!!
Thank you, Bob!
Since for me only one watcher your video was so great my dearest Pilot 🤝👏👏👏🥰😊🤗🤗
Thank you Tania!
That’s amazing. I will be using this route next time I head west. I normally request 6500 to transition the bravo leaving KFRG. Thanks Bruno!
Enjoy!!
How the heck do you figure that out, but that's great to know. Definitely going to give that a try.
“It’s one of life’s mysteries, Sir” 😄
Epic video! Great job.
Thank you, John!
Brilliant! I bet this is even faster than flying IFR on this route... Most IFR routes for this trip go around these fields.
Exactly! I’ve flown IFR around this area and it’s always a pain 😄
Nice job, these are common routes used by helicopter guys using the heli checkpoints
Correct!
Incredible route and view, you should consider selling tickets to bring tourists around!
Thanks! And yes, that’s in the plans!
This was super helpful. My home airport is in CT and I've always wondered what the correct way was to get through NYC to PA. I've avoided flying west because the B is like a massive road block.
Glad you enjoyed it!
NY Class B controllers are exceptionally accommodating to VFR traffic. From east to west, you can easily get a Bravo clearance at 4500 or 6500 feet; opposite direction 5500, though they've let me in at 3500 as well. Then there's Bruno's trick, to use a helicopter route, but that's best if you're landing at one of the airports within or close to the lateral limits of the Bravo airspace. There are other options too, like 2500 feet, below the northern 3000 foot shelf, but you shouldn't see NY B as a "road block" at all.
This is a great video!!
Thank you!
Awesome Bruno. Saudações do Brasil. Quais são as músicas de fundo? Bons vôos 😊 e continue compartilhando suas experiências são incríveis!
Valeu Alessandro! Bom ver brasileiros inscritos aqui no canal! As músicas são de uma livraria paga com copyright free. O site é Motionarray.com 👍
Obrigado Bruno. Bons voos!
Awesome video! Do you need dual radio stacks to monitor the Hudson River CTAF and New York Approach at the same time, or do you get handed off?
No, once you’re in the Class B (Skyline Route) you have a squawk code and you’re with EWR & LGA Tower all the way. You’ll be ABOVE the SFRA, so no need to monitor 😉
@@FlyWithBrunoNice. Thanks for answering. As a NJ pilot, this is super helpful.
Genius! Does this work westbound? Or do you have another transition for that?
Yep! I took the same route on my way home!
Great video! Can the ATC deny your request to fly the transition/shortcut?
Thanks! And yes, they can-if traffic inbound to or outbound from LGA would conflict with you. If they’re using runway 13 at LGA, it’s likely that you won’t get it. I recommend trying it on a weekend, when it’s slow and there’s less traffic around!
Really cool video. Very educational! Did the ATC say “south extension” instead of “South Stanchin”?
I think they said “South Stanchion”, sometimes it’s a little hard to hear… thanks for watching!
Awesome video. I was surprised you started by contacting EWR tower. I would have thought the first contact would have been with NY APP. Why EWR Tower, not NY APP?
Thank you, Jim! EWR TWR controls that whole sector (low altitudes) so I called them directly because my departure airport (SMQ) is just 20 miles West of them. But if you’re coming from the South or West, then you’d call NY APP first and they’d transfer you to TWR.
Where do you find the information for that transition route? I't's not on a VFR sectional
You can find extensive info on the FAA website! And also here: newlangsyne.com/nyctour/
Thanks for the tip, was not aware of the Throgs neck transition!
I fly out of CDW so very applicable. For your first call to EWR tower is that the main 118.3 frequency or something else?
Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it, man! You should call EWR TWR on 127.85. That’s their freq dedicated to the Skyline Line/Hudson Bay sector. Fly safe and have fun!
Thanks!
You're an NYC airspace expert now! LOL
Kind of, yes 😄
Epic
It really was!
Me watching this knowing ill probably never get to fly a private plane anywhere near New York
It’s still entertaining :)
Tried this flight in X-Plane New York Skyline and Throg Neck Transition VFR in X-Plane 12
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Só cool!! Thanks for sharing, Colin! Hope you had fun!
@@FlyWithBruno I did. We have nothing close to this in the UK. I see Chicago and San Francisco also have similar routes… I can feel a few more adventures coming on…
I don’t know how to fly I’m 21
You should go get your pilots license, it’s the best thing I did in life!
Those beep sounds were annoying
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Your only mistake, willingly going to FRG and claiming you saved time. Those two can't exist together
😂😂😂
Really enjoyed learning about this. I lived on Long Island for the first 33 years of my life. I will say it took me a little bit to figure out that although the captions and sounds said "New York Tower" (what the hell is that??), it was supposed to be "Newark' Tower. Now, I feel stupid lololol. Bruno, I'm going to do this route soon, after my PPL (hopefully next month!!) and I'll be sure to give you a plug from @fly_douggiestyle
Glad you enjoyed it, Doug! Can’t wait to see you do it. Good luck on your PPL!