Mono's 'cursed fate' could be that she ended up being the evil Queen from Ico - that's why she was sacrificed as they foresaw her future and decided to act. But they didn't count on Wander saving her and so her destiny was fulfilled. I like this theory and it makes sense to both story lines.
Thanks ; ) I appreciate all the positive comments I have received here and over the years, in a large way I made my videos for the SotC fans as well as for myself. Will there ever be a game that stirs up so much feeling and speculation? We'll have to wait and see.
After years finally i can see the outside of the forbidden island, i hope this game has it own universe and grow more because this game was full of mistery
Zero Yes, but, the "other kind" of Mono that I mean is this dark Mono we see on the video, and I also consider dead Mono and alive Mono two different kinds of mono.
i like the theory that mono wasn't given her own soul back (dormin states in the beginning of the game a soul cannot return to its body), rather dormin gives her dormin's female half, since dormin has a female voice and a male voice that talk in unison. i think it would explain why she was evil
***** Dormin says 'Souls that are once lost cannot be reclaimed... Is that not the law of mortals?' referring to humans, i.e. us petty mortals don't have such power, but clearly Dormin does. It is a leading question as Dormin wants something from this mysterious stranger who holds in his hands Dormin's possible salvation - the ancient sword! But your idea is as good as any, and other fans have speculated that the female side of Dormin did indeed pass into Mono. But that would mean Mono's body was just a shell for Dormin's essence and her original soul was lost. Would such a creature care for the baby Wander and cradle him in her arms and raise him? Perhaps so, but I always believed that it was Mono's soul that was brought back through Dormin's magic (however that works).
doves is dormin's light part and yorda is a dove in the cage,the primary idea that fumito always had and keeps, that explain the connection between her and ico .
We all will miss your uploads, nomad. You and pikol have done the most epics discoveries in the game, showing us how amazing, complex and beautiful Shadow of the colossus is even almost 7 years after its release, thank you and take care!
Thanks for finding so many awesome things in SOTC. By now you've no doubt found everything there is on the disc. I hope that someday people will be able to mod the game easily and we can make our own colossi to fight.
If this is the end,then thank you very much for all the things you,Pikol and Area discovered.Well,without you we probably could never see all the beta mountains,the white cubes,the Dam,the files,the intro cutscene models,etc. By the way,great video,it is a simple way to end it all,from the beggining to the end of the Team Ico great universe.I hope you find another game like this(if it exist).
Everything legitimate in the game has been found I would think, but there may still be some small things to find in the code, or weird effects etc. but nothing earth shattering.
Nomad, I'm a recent admirer of you as well a recent fan from SOTC. I've watch all your videos, checked out your blog and follow you on Twitter. All I can say is that I SINCERELY appreciate all this videos you've done. Your work only made me love and fascinate for SOTC to other level; this has never happened to me before for a video game. Your abilities in the computer are admirable, too, that's really cool, you know? :) Greetings from Mexico! Sincerely, Adriana.
I believe that the "consequence" Dormin was talking about was Wander becoming his avatar/harbouring his soul, probably bringing him into the world and thus being considered "cursed". And even if you take the end of the game into consideration, Wander reverting back into infancy, bearing the horns and along with it (I assume) a fragment of Dormin´s power would also be the "consequence". But that is my opinion :) As for Mono being the Queen I find it highly improbable... Even with Dormin´s power.
I will still be adding posts to my blog (a have a few more to do) and I'll still work on some Photoshop montages which I will upload, but unless I find something new I haven't shown before in the game I can't see what else to upload that hasn't already been extensively covered before.
The Colossi's eye looks like what you see after defeating a colossus and getting the black strings to hit you, that white stuff while hearing mono's voice minus the pupil
Thank you, Nomad! It's been an absolute pleasure watching your videos and seeing all the details you've found in SoTC. I especially enjoyed seeing all the little improvements you made with editing the engine and your own videos - remember the days of intersecting points and not being able to get past the crash areas near the beta mountains? Now you can make Wander walk around cut scenes! Such a good job, well done.
What the hell even the eyes of the colossi are full of details! Sotc really IS a masterpiece. Thanks for your uploads nomad, they are fantastic! Its a shame they debunked the so called last secret, but it does not take any of the game's beauty.
I may yet make another 'Odds & Ends' video with little bits and pieces of things I've found... but I doubt I will find another game like Shadow to inspire me. Journey on the PS3 is awesome but I can't hack any PS3 games yet... maybe not for a long time.
You should, Nomad. Although it invalidates a bit the events of SotC... Or maybe not, I´ll let you decide. :) I got it for X-Mas and I loved it. ^^ It gives you a new perspective of Yorda, makes her a much more active character... Anyway, I´ve been reading your blog and I must say - I am impressed. Such detailed information and so much stuff... And such a keen eye you have. :) Thank you very very much for all the videos, info on your blog and for making my favourite game even more interesting :)
No, at least I don't know how to do that. The cut scenes are apart from the game itself, I can only work with what is loaded in the memory at one time.
I can load parts of the lands in the opening cut scene but I can't load a colossus. So I can have a part from the cut scene there as well as the Shrine of Worship or some other area - like I have done in some videos. It's a bit hard to explain here...
My theory about Mono is that because she was ressurected with (most probably) the dark magic of dormin, at the beginning she might have been normal and all but then the darkness took control or something?
I've heard that it won't be released this year and they won't even commit to a 2013 release date! So we might be waiting until 2014 and by then the PS4 will be out so they might remake it for that platform - which will take even longer. It really sucks having to wait so long for one game - very disappointing.
Thanks ; ) I'll definitely order the book and read it. As for my blog I still have tonnes of stuff to put in there so although the videos will be less frequent the blog will keep going.
Hey Nomad, I've been watching your videos for quite sometime. I was there when the new bugs and secrets series was starting, and I remember the hype of it. I couldn't describe how much I was waiting to see the "Pikol's big secret" video. After the amazing discoveries ended, I still wanted more. Then I found your channel. It's been quite an awesome journey, and I hope you start making videos again when TLG comes out. (I'm hoping it won't become another Dukem Nukem forever project)
Nomad, don't stop your work, my friend! It's amazing ! I have 2 questions Is there any possibility for Mono to be the Queen of ICO ? Makes sense to me, if ICO have his storyline right after SotC And, is there any hope to Last Guardian be launched this or next year ??
It's sad to see the last SotC upload you'll do, but really, what else is there to do? We've seen the game broken front ways and back, and it's been fun too see.
Well it was great while it was going. But sadly there wasn't much left to do. But what is Nomad going to upload now? His finished version of Last Guardian since Team Ico will need another few years. Some c64 longplays? Really though its been great man thanks.
I was thinking about mono being the queen from ico and...as much as it would be a dramatic outcome ..it doesnt make very much of a sense.. Because, lets suppose that mono found a way out of the forsaken lands , it would mean that at a moment or the other .. baby Wander ends up being sacrified ? And in ICO at thé begining we see a legion of coffins to put horned childs in..but wouldnt that mean that dormin had to possess another person and curse him ? Theres too much gap between mono and the queen..
Yeah but Dormin said there would be consequenses.....perhaps he meant that Mono would be possesed by one small part of Dormin's power? Hence why Mono would become queen....that still doesn't explain why she hates the Horned kids when one of them was Wander.
Actually, you've just given me an idea, Nomad. Why don't you make a video of all of the colossi transforming into their corpse form (like you did here with Malus).
no .... google translator damn ....... must be translated differently XD I just wanted to ask if you could save or move an object from a scene and put in the game ... I thought yes because you put in the SOW opening scene .... but ok, it might be difficult, I understand, good .... sorry bother ^ ^ good luck man
He became stone. Like when you kill the other Colossi, and go back to pray at their corpse for that "memory rematch" thing. (Also, yeah a 2 year late response. I'm on a Nomad binge right now, and I can't stop.)
Nobody knows for sure. Ueda never stated that Mono is The Queen. Nor did he denied the possibility. I guess we will never know. ._. It would be highly unlikely, if you take ICO´s story into consideration... And if you consider the book, you will find it even more unlikely. Anyway, that is just my opinion. :) Sorry for butting in like that, just trying to help a fellow fan ^^;
If you beat the game on hard I believe (either that or hard time attack), you earn the ability to change your horses color. I guess he just changed it as a symbol of hierarchy.
Raveman01 on PlayStation 2, I beat on normal and hard mode more than 10 times and didn't get any new items,weapons, cosmetic...all bunch of nothing ;_;
nomad no please you are our hope to desvend the mystery of shadow of the colossus im sorry of the some words english but i am brasilian i no say english
Mono's 'cursed fate' could be that she ended up being the evil Queen from Ico - that's why she was sacrificed as they foresaw her future and decided to act. But they didn't count on Wander saving her and so her destiny was fulfilled. I like this theory and it makes sense to both story lines.
now the real question is , what causes her to become the queen (assuming isn't related to Dormin.)
K, now I'm finally convinced me that Mono is the Queen ~
My reaction: HOLY CRAP MONO WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS! TO HORNED CHILDREN?! THEY WERE THE KIDS OF YOUR FREAKIN BOYFRIEND!
@@davidmejia2693 the price of immortality is madness
Thanks ; ) I appreciate all the positive comments I have received here and over the years, in a large way I made my videos for the SotC fans as well as for myself. Will there ever be a game that stirs up so much feeling and speculation? We'll have to wait and see.
After years finally i can see the outside of the forbidden island, i hope this game has it own universe and grow more because this game was full of mistery
The thing is they did expand the universe but into some more mysteries
1. watched this video until the mono transformation.
2. Peed my pants.
3. closed the video in 0.00001 seconds.
4. Sleep.
5. Nightmare.
+Zero It looks like I'm not the only one scred of any version of Mono. For real, she kinda scares me even when she is just lying dead in the altar...
Mateus Parcianello man, the transformation is fake, there is no mono transormation, he put it in the video to scare us
Zero I know it. I'm just saying that Mono scares me, even the regular Mono.
Mateus Parcianello but there is only 1 "kind" of mono.
Zero Yes, but, the "other kind" of Mono that I mean is this dark Mono we see on the video, and I also consider dead Mono and alive Mono two different kinds of mono.
i like the theory that mono wasn't given her own soul back (dormin states in the beginning of the game a soul cannot return to its body), rather dormin gives her dormin's female half, since dormin has a female voice and a male voice that talk in unison. i think it would explain why she was evil
***** Dormin says 'Souls that are once lost cannot be reclaimed...
Is that not the law of mortals?' referring to humans, i.e. us petty mortals don't have such power, but clearly Dormin does. It is a leading question as Dormin wants something from this mysterious stranger who holds in his hands Dormin's possible salvation - the ancient sword!
But your idea is as good as any, and other fans have speculated that the female side of Dormin did indeed pass into Mono. But that would mean Mono's body was just a shell for Dormin's essence and her original soul was lost. Would such a creature care for the baby Wander and cradle him in her arms and raise him? Perhaps so, but I always believed that it was Mono's soul that was brought back through Dormin's magic (however that works).
Nomad Colossus what if the female side of Dormin is on Mono and the male side of Dormin is in Wander?
that's definitely an interesting theory!
Nossa
doves is dormin's light part and yorda is a dove in the cage,the primary idea that fumito always had and keeps, that explain the connection between her and ico .
We all will miss your uploads, nomad. You and pikol have done the most epics discoveries in the game, showing us how amazing, complex and beautiful Shadow of the colossus is even almost 7 years after its release, thank you and take care!
Thanks for finding so many awesome things in SOTC. By now you've no doubt found everything there is on the disc. I hope that someday people will be able to mod the game easily and we can make our own colossi to fight.
If this is the end,then thank you very much for all the things you,Pikol and Area discovered.Well,without you we probably could never see all the beta mountains,the white cubes,the Dam,the files,the intro cutscene models,etc.
By the way,great video,it is a simple way to end it all,from the beggining to the end of the Team Ico great universe.I hope you find another game like this(if it exist).
Everything legitimate in the game has been found I would think, but there may still be some small things to find in the code, or weird effects etc. but nothing earth shattering.
lmao couldn't be more wrong
Nomad, I'm a recent admirer of you as well a recent fan from SOTC. I've watch all your videos, checked out your blog and follow you on Twitter. All I can say is that I SINCERELY appreciate all this videos you've done. Your work only made me love and fascinate for SOTC to other level; this has never happened to me before for a video game.
Your abilities in the computer are admirable, too, that's really cool, you know? :)
Greetings from Mexico!
Sincerely, Adriana.
I believe that the "consequence" Dormin was talking about was Wander becoming his avatar/harbouring his soul, probably bringing him into the world and thus being considered "cursed". And even if you take the end of the game into consideration, Wander reverting back into infancy, bearing the horns and along with it (I assume) a fragment of Dormin´s power would also be the "consequence". But that is my opinion :)
As for Mono being the Queen I find it highly improbable... Even with Dormin´s power.
I put it there. I moved the colossi corpse from 12's area to the cut scene (at A0). That's why I wrote 'After 12 cut scene mods'.
I will still be adding posts to my blog (a have a few more to do) and I'll still work on some Photoshop montages which I will upload, but unless I find something new I haven't shown before in the game I can't see what else to upload that hasn't already been extensively covered before.
The Colossi's eye looks like what you see after defeating a colossus and getting the black strings to hit you, that white stuff while hearing mono's voice minus the pupil
Thank you, Nomad! It's been an absolute pleasure watching your videos and seeing all the details you've found in SoTC. I especially enjoyed seeing all the little improvements you made with editing the engine and your own videos - remember the days of intersecting points and not being able to get past the crash areas near the beta mountains? Now you can make Wander walk around cut scenes! Such a good job, well done.
I especially like the Mono Transformation at the end. Thanks for the updates!
What the hell even the eyes of the colossi are full of details! Sotc really IS a masterpiece. Thanks for your uploads nomad, they are fantastic! Its a shame they debunked the so called last secret, but it does not take any of the game's beauty.
Thanks for everything you've done! It was great to see all that you have seen!
Yes, that's Pelagia (you can see the teeth like objects below as he is in his "death" position).
im a superbigfan of SOTC, and just found your vids, blew my mind! thanks for all these
man i did not know that Mono was The Queen from ICO All along
I may yet make another 'Odds & Ends' video with little bits and pieces of things I've found... but I doubt I will find another game like Shadow to inspire me. Journey on the PS3 is awesome but I can't hack any PS3 games yet... maybe not for a long time.
It's been a fun journey, Nomad. Glad to have gotten to experience it along with you :)
I liked the transformation of Mono in Queen,
I'm always full of imagination when I see your videos, big hug, my friend Nomad
You should, Nomad. Although it invalidates a bit the events of SotC... Or maybe not, I´ll let you decide. :)
I got it for X-Mas and I loved it. ^^
It gives you a new perspective of Yorda, makes her a much more active character...
Anyway, I´ve been reading your blog and I must say - I am impressed. Such detailed information and so much stuff... And such a keen eye you have. :)
Thank you very very much for all the videos, info on your blog and for making my favourite game even more interesting :)
It's been fun, Nomad. Also, that was a fitting ending to your videos. Eerie stuff.
No, at least I don't know how to do that. The cut scenes are apart from the game itself, I can only work with what is loaded in the memory at one time.
I can load parts of the lands in the opening cut scene but I can't load a colossus. So I can have a part from the cut scene there as well as the Shrine of Worship or some other area - like I have done in some videos. It's a bit hard to explain here...
My theory about Mono is that because she was ressurected with (most probably) the dark magic of dormin, at the beginning she might have been normal and all but then the darkness took control or something?
Goatyye I like this theory
I've heard that it won't be released this year and they won't even commit to a 2013 release date! So we might be waiting until 2014 and by then the PS4 will be out so they might remake it for that platform - which will take even longer. It really sucks having to wait so long for one game - very disappointing.
Wow, awesome.. And yeah, wish we could find more interesting stuff like a player control for one of the other people. :P
It's been a pleasure watching your videos, Nomad. Hopefully The Last Guardian will have you doing this stuff again :)
There is. It is called "ICO - Castle In The Mist", you can find the english version on most online bookstores at a decent price. :)
Thanks ; ) I'll definitely order the book and read it. As for my blog I still have tonnes of stuff to put in there so although the videos will be less frequent the blog will keep going.
Pelagia after death ps3
Hey Nomad, I've been watching your videos for quite sometime. I was there when the new bugs and secrets series was starting, and I remember the hype of it. I couldn't describe how much I was waiting to see the "Pikol's big secret" video. After the amazing discoveries ended, I still wanted more. Then I found your channel. It's been quite an awesome journey, and I hope you start making videos again when TLG comes out. (I'm hoping it won't become another Dukem Nukem forever project)
That giant thing near Emon and the soldiers, was it Pelagia
Nomad, don't stop your work, my friend! It's amazing !
I have 2 questions
Is there any possibility for Mono to be the Queen of ICO ? Makes sense to me, if ICO have his storyline right after SotC
And, is there any hope to Last Guardian be launched this or next year ??
That last part killed me.
Mono Transforms into The Queen from ICO Theory Solved
Thank you Nomad!
Mono becomes the evil Queen in Ico?? But doesn't the reincarnation of Wander become Ico? :( that's sad.
Mono is The Queen from ICO , Theory Confirmed
The original "Ness is Sans"
It's 'Interrupted Moment - Radiant Historia' by Yoko Shimomura. Sorry I took so long to reply!
It's sad to see the last SotC upload you'll do, but really, what else is there to do? We've seen the game broken front ways and back, and it's been fun too see.
you can move the colossus, then try to create a fight between them.
True, I have never read the book so I should probably order it - I think I will ; )
Indeed
Well it was great while it was going. But sadly there wasn't much left to do. But what is Nomad going to upload now? His finished version of Last Guardian since Team Ico will need another few years. Some c64 longplays? Really though its been great man thanks.
I was thinking about mono being the queen from ico and...as much as it would be a dramatic outcome ..it doesnt make very much of a sense..
Because, lets suppose that mono found a way out of the forsaken lands , it would mean that at a moment or the other .. baby Wander ends up being sacrified ?
And in ICO at thé begining we see a legion of coffins to put horned childs in..but wouldnt that mean that dormin had to possess another person and curse him ?
Theres too much gap between mono and the queen..
Mono transformation? !!!! WOW
Nomad, if you run out of things of SotC you can always more to ICO, nO? ;)
i did....
thanks ^^
ahh great video Nomad! ^^
good luck 4 you
nomad this song is beautifull i love orchestras could you say the name of the song plz :-)
10:41
Yeah but Dormin said there would be consequenses.....perhaps he meant that Mono would be possesed by one small part of Dormin's power? Hence why Mono would become queen....that still doesn't explain why she hates the Horned kids when one of them was Wander.
very good !!!
4:33 the hell? is that Pelagia?!? why is he there? or is just a scenario statue that looks just like him? o_o
Eres único, gracias por subirlo.
If mono is the queen then were is wander he was baby right
Does ste bridgestones near some saveshrines also dissapear after the bridge colapsed? maybe they also disapear who knows ???
ok i did ...
but .... as you put in the SOW cutcene start?
or the case was different?
Fuck, Mono scared the shit out of me
Nomad hey is it possible to move an object from one cutcene, or save it and the game?
just out of curiosity ... thanks
7:08 Right into YOUR SOUL
Actually, you've just given me an idea, Nomad. Why don't you make a video of all of the colossi transforming into their corpse form (like you did here with Malus).
no .... google translator damn ....... must be translated differently XD
I just wanted to ask if you could save or move an object from a scene and put in the game ... I thought yes because you put in the SOW opening scene .... but ok, it might be difficult, I understand, good .... sorry bother ^ ^
good luck man
Are you saying you loaded a colossus in the opening cut scene? If so you would have to prove it to me.
And iraklsmh@ if you beet the story mode, agro is then a white horse from the on.
Why is there a statue of Pelagia at 04:35?
What did Malus transform into?
He became stone. Like when you kill the other Colossi, and go back to pray at their corpse for that "memory rematch" thing.
(Also, yeah a 2 year late response. I'm on a Nomad binge right now, and I can't stop.)
Miki Tiki sorry to be a further 2 years late but he just morphed into the earth like
Ragna Alucard@ he turns to stone. (Totally not medusa)Like all the other bodies of the other 15 collosi.
Someone probably already asked you this, but what is your opinion on the mono-queen theory?
dar mesmo pra fazer isso no jogo?
Hey Nomad, 7:49
y Mono is the queen from ICO??
Thx for help :)
OMG MONO IS THE QUEEN
btw did you guys now ico: castle in the mist is a book
Nobody knows for sure. Ueda never stated that Mono is The Queen. Nor did he denied the possibility. I guess we will never know. ._.
It would be highly unlikely, if you take ICO´s story into consideration... And if you consider the book, you will find it even more unlikely.
Anyway, that is just my opinion. :)
Sorry for butting in like that, just trying to help a fellow fan ^^;
its "what the hell is this statue?"
why dont you try with ps2 games playthrough and that stuff?
why this will be your last video?
2019 anyone I'm alone :(
No c:
Sucks it has to end. Maybe we will find a new game to break in the future. I've run out of places to Agro jump to.
Where did you get the name Nomad?
Nomad means a lonely wander who travels from place to place (actually they are usually a 'group') but I used the name in regards to Wander.
me gustaría que hagas videos en español, lo haría mas accesible ;D
aprende ingles
Arthur. Florence Yo entiendo el ingles, pero es mejor si esta en español tambien
+RoseofVictory i agree
:epiccry:
omG! 4:35 a dead Colossi? how the hell he is there?
thats the bridge...and thats not a statue.. -.-
dessa vez eu concordo a jovem mono é a bruxa do jogo ico eu não acredito nisso agora eu sei porque ela foi morta putis grila
Nomad vc é da hora
Why is Agro white in your videos
If you beat the game on hard I believe (either that or hard time attack), you earn the ability to change your horses color. I guess he just changed it as a symbol of hierarchy.
Raveman01 on PlayStation 2, I beat on normal and hard mode more than 10 times and didn't get any new items,weapons, cosmetic...all bunch of nothing ;_;
***** You have to beat time attack modes. Go up to the idol spots and you should be able to fight them again.
Mono = Queen From ICO? WTF!
In This case I'm Right About Lord EMON! Yey
i Will Post My Video about That (Hoo my GOD Mono..All this makes Sense)...
This is so sad...
Yep... but... what the HELL is he doing there?! XD It's too far away from his area o_o oh well... :P
duh *pets horse* XD
da pra traduzir por favor
aprende ingles
nomad no please you are our hope to desvend the mystery of shadow of the colossus im sorry of the some words english but i am brasilian i no say english