A few more changes were made to Elorimanda's design in response to some of the feedback in the comments of this video! Just small things, but you can see them here --> www.deviantart.com/subjectively5
Dang. I did not realize your concept was Progress VS Trafition, that is the same concept me and my team were working with… and in the same region. I may have to take my team back to the drawing board.
personally the head seems a bit bird like, because of the lower jaw looks like a beak to me. Probably mostly because there isn't much if any upper jaw definition. I don't know if this was intentional or not but it's just something I noticed.
Hi I want to say something new elorimanda look like a peacock but the old one is more beautiful than the new one can you change the design i am so sorry because you put a lot effort in new design but I am sorry can you please change the design and think you for looking at this comment think you.
It hit me as soon as he read the Pokedex entry at the end. The pokemon both in-universe and as a design "used to look entirely different". the symbolism omgggg
Funnily enough, the interior of current Elorimanda is similar to gold/purple Smaugust Elorimanda, so you can literally use that design as some “past form of Elorimanda” if you wanted.
please don't stop talking about stuff on your videos i'm a aspiring artist and your videos help me a lot understanding the process that goes behind your drawings is half the fun i get from your content
I'm not even an artist and I still enjoy the talking and breaking down segments just as much if not more so than the drawing, It's interesting and good to listen and learn these things.
I really hate it when people just say “your art doesn’t look good” without giving any constructive criticism and those who get mad at you talking about what you’ve worked on, because that’s your choice and how you format your videos. (Sorry if this comment isn’t easy to read)
Anytime I see somewhat give criticism of art like that without explaining what's wrong with it, I usually just reply with "Alright well, YOU make what YOU want then."
Eh, I say someone should be able to announce they don’t like something without having to explain what they don’t like as long as they aren’t rude. We’re free to have opinions after all, and all art is subjective.
@@yun7V3nu2 yeah, it does hurt if there’s no actual construction, but I don’t think it’s something to actually hate. And the other person isn’t malicious for doing so. In the end, they simply just don’t like it. And there’s bound to be many many other people who do like it.
Can I just say, I may be a non-artist myself but I AM an aspiring writer, and dude I absolutely LOVE the stuff you talk about in these videos!! Whenever I click on a Subjectively video, I never do so with the intention to just see a design and leave, or even just for the reasonings behind a design. No, honestly the thing I adore most in these videos is the way you will take certain aspects and ideologies behind creating art, and basically make an entertaining and educational video around it, all without making the designs feel like an after thought. Honestly I know there's people who will just skip to the designs and be done with it, but I mean it when I say that I hang on to EVERY WORD in these videos! They've helped me in more ways than you can imagine when it comes to creating, especially this video!!
Agreed, seeing these kinds of things help aspiring artist/ writers/ any hobbies tbh grow and develop their skills and even create their own techniques that they can even teach others, and the cycle continues.
I do agree so much. I feel the same way. I am a dm for a dnd world and both my writing and some enemy designing process for monsters and maps walk through sinilar steps. The discussions of the process of creating sonething, is very relatable for me and I can learn from a lot sometime.
Thank you so much for putting this into words- I feel the exact same way!! Jack's art is freaking amazing, but the lore is really what pulls everything together with this series and everything else he (and the subjectively team) puts out!
They also all hatch from eggs! Birds are even more perfect because they can look vastly different between infancy and adulthood, like bugs, despite not going through metamorphosis
@@davidjavier2152 they do have feathers fall off and grow back, so I understand where you're coming from. It just doesn't adhere to the definition of molting though. They keep the same skin and body, they just get a fresh coat. It's more like a haircut rather than a full metamorphosis.
you know what shows art is truly amazing? The fact you can engage someone for 25 minuets on one singular , amazing work of art. I'm working on a project myself and this gave me the inspiration I needed. AMAZING video. Please make more like it
I didn't even realise it was 25 minutes until I read this comment after finishing the video. I was so thoroughly engaged by everything that I assumed the video was the usual 10-15 minutes long when first clicking on it. I just knew I had to watch, time be damned!
It’ll be interesting to see if you decide to do alternate forms of Elorimanda to reflect the other legendaries and choices the player makes in the game. Like necrozma and kyurem having alternate forms. A completely shed one that has the skin as sort of a second body and a Parental-Bond like ability where it hits twice. And one where it wraps itself with even more skin/ribbon armor and has an ability like Disguise. Elorimanda-Cloaked and Elorimanda-Freed
I would love to see elorimanda shedded forme, like how the player lucky to witness its shedding session (which occur once every 1 million year) lol that would give it more back story
And of course Elorimanda in its purest form symbolises that progress and modernity is good, but we cannot forget the skin we once wore - or risk losing what once humbled us
I think an important part of its design and concept, though, is the mystery, the uncertainty and anticipation, of not knowing if, when it sheds, it will be more beautiful, or if something amazing will be ruined. I still think this could work though. It could be a very _different_ design, not one designed to be explicitly MORE beautiful. One that some could feel is better than its previous shroud, and others could argue that it's worse. And to retain the sense of anticipation, the new form's skin could be loose in some places. You can tell that it has the potential to shed again. You almost feel like you can see new eyes underneath. But how far are you willing to go?
PLEASE NEVER STOP TALKING ABOUT YOUR DESIGNS I cant STATE ENOUGH just how interesting your Design processes and thoughts are! My heart is just so happy to see so many cultures being shown and properly represented in an amazing video like this!! Never stop your amazing work you guys at subjectively!
I wonder if the evil team could be trying to tear off the skin from this legendary to force a new age on the Mazah region... On an unrelated note, I love your vids and you're an inspiring artist. Take all the time you need, because the results are worth it.
And in the other version, the evil team’s goal could be trying to force the skin back, in a futile and psychotic attempt to “return to the glory/beauty of the original form (past)”.
Gorgeous doesn't even begin to describe Elorimanda, it is just it's own league by a large margin. Also please keep talking in your videos, the thoughts you lay on those segments helped me develop as an artist a lot, and I was needing this video in specific.
I think you should add a bit more fruits to Titanotrops chin or tail to go with the whole "fruit punch" thing and distinguish it from Mackabanana. Things like dragon fruits and mangos, etc. It would also add to the whole diet lore.
You know what would be a fun idea if you’re up for it? Making Proto and Neo forms of this Fakémon (Proto being before it shed its skin and Neo being with its skin completely shed) It’s up to you tho. Love your stuff!
I dont think that this is a good idea, the message of this pokemon is that it COULD be even more beautiful if it molted one more time, but it isn’t sure. The ambiguity of the design is what makes it good, and if he designs a version to look more beautiful, it would mean that the group of modernity is right, and the group of tradition is wrong.
I definitely think that it couldn't be just 1 alt forme, obviously. The toughest part is that both of its new forms would need to be equally beautiful, or at least arguably more beautiful depending on personal taste. The prior skin would be adhearing to the beauty standards of old, or a more natural beauty, like the natural elegance of a waterfall or beach sunset. The newer skin would be a more modern beauty, bright colors and strong reflections, like a colorful window pane or bottle. Both would be beautiful in there own right, but many would also agree that the original form held the most true beauty, like an abandon or sunken city overun by nature.
the shapes and textures in elorimanda's new design are absolutely gorgeous; when you started sketching in the spiraling skin around the neck i was instantly taken in! also please don't feel discouraged about chatting in your videos; a lot of us watch them *for* your rambling! your insight on character design has been genuinely incredibly helpful and inspiring!
Hey this is beautiful, man. I'm all about putting methodical time into design work instead of feeding the algorithm quickly- I've learned the same thing over the years too. All the best to you!!
Kinda fitting that a character which design took many passes to get finalized has change and variation as an integral part of it's lore too. It's too perfect. Imagination runs wild thinking about how this pokemon would look before starting and after completely shedding it's skin (with some alternative forms maybe). Congratulations for such an amazing work, as always.
The elegance and mystique of the design is perfect, it truly evokes the feeling of something otherworldly and divine. I love how dynamically its posed, it shows how special it is perfectly.
This is amazing, Elorimanda looks splendid and majestic. I actually think the tail situation, where the design makes you wonder if it has one or not, somewhat helps with the theme. Since it makes you wonder if it did have a tail, but it was shed, or does it currently have one that is hidden away. But there is something else, Elorimanda doesn’t really have a connection to the order of nature aspect, the prey and predator aspect. This may not be needed, but it is the second biggest aspect of their designs. If you are willing to have another go at this design, possibly a form change for it which interacts with the shed skin, which could play into that more. Even if a third legend doesn’t resemble its counterparts, it still plays into the major themes of the trio. Necrozma being a white/black dwarf plus incorporating prisms, black holes, super novas, and prisms which manipulate light; playing into its trio’s themes of light and celestial bodies. Eturnatus is an ancient evil and a dragon, which tend to play play the antagonist role in legends and are just as crucial role in the formation and retelling of legends. And Kyurem is the wuji to Zekrom and Reshiram’s yin and Yang, a being without any truth or ideals to give it meaning, but has the potential to be filled with either or both, and is the cooling ice of a nuclear generator. These are just examples, but I think you can get the point. I have little idea how you implement that, but looking into other aspects of the balance of nature which are just as essential if not more than the predator prey one may be one angle. Another could be other kinds of diets, omnivores for example, with their own complimentary philosophies may also help Overall all great job and love the design, but just wanted to say my piece
Even though I cant so digital art and am only experienced with pen and paper, I can still really appreciate this type of artwork and the amazing work and product of this channel. Love your content, Jack!
I really enjoyed the extensive explanation of this art work. That's exactly what sets you apart from other fakemon artists. My favorite part of your videos is when you take us through the design process, and explain the inner workings of the design. I really loved how much you put into this one. I'd really love it if you did did your art like this more. Focus on quality over quantity, and take time to explain it all.
Liking the spiky jagged flower petal dress can still be reincorporated into its animations! Its shed skin could temporarily flare outward as a display of power or something like that
This is your most Pokemon like design to me. I love the process and presentation of the design section of this video. As a usual dialogue skipper it was a breath of fresh air to hear your struggles. Awesome work. I hope you take a slower pass going forward as well.
I understand why people would want you to not talk so much and just get to the drawing, but when it comes to something like character/creature design, I LOVE hearing the thought process behind it. I like to hear what inspires people and how they go about doing every aspect, from choosing what to base a design off of, to how they do sketching, line art, coloring, and rendering. I also really like knowing what tools people use, like in you case an iPad with Procreate. There're always going to be people who don't like something about a certain piece of content, but there will always be those who are the opposite. Just keep doing what you're doing.
the final design is a massive improvement from the original, colours and patterns are super pretty! though i gotta say i love the long tail you did at 21:20. i do think the skirt thing works better for the overall shape though
As a new novelist, I get you SO MUCH on the “art vs product” thing. I want to make the best stuff possible, but I also have to put them out on a schedule and write to fit my genre. It can be exhausting. And Elorimanda is GORGEOUS!!!
NEVER STOP talking for minutes and minutes Jack, it’s the whole reason your videos are so entertaining to watch! All of your jokes and clever comments are so fun and your videos are just so awesome in general! Keep doing what you’re doing!
When you talked about drawing the shed skin separately from the pokemon, I had a cool idea for a unique ability, where when the pokemon's HP reaches half, it would dramatically throw its shed skin away like how person in a drama would throw away a cloak to reveal their hidden identity. Doing so would decrease Elirimonda's defensive stats by half, but its offensive stats would double, and any status ailments would be cured.
I, like many other artists here I bet, really do relate to the issue of "Not wanting to put too much time on a piece". I personally try to avoid sitting too long on one art peice cause I know that the next day I will most likly hate it and not wanna continue it. Yet one gotta sit back and trust the process and just take the time. I love both designs in this video to be honest. The first really caught my dragon obsessed intrest but do understand why it feel wrong. The new form really caught your eyes and made you guess what it could become. It also played more on the mystery of a third legendary. It felt like it could easily do a reveal at the end where it sheds the last of the skin to become its final form too strong to handle. Almost like it's rage with the humans of the region over them fighting over what it should do (like them fighting over it staying like it is or change further like you mentioned) could cause it to go mad. We all know the pressure of people telling you want to do and what to become. The last form could then be something like "Corrupted beauty becomes beast" -ish. Beauty like a Rose. If you don't handle it right it will make you bleed.
dude whoever thinks you should just not talk in the speedpaint is crazy, at least in my case thats my favorite part, idk your voice is simply relaxing to me
AH man, I really liked that cobra skin idea but I gotta say, I love the new design. Especially the combination of seemingly bird (in the face) and reptilian like features. Overall really cool design
I love how this guy talks, it's like he wants you to learn something in a video about drawing pokemon. I legit don't understand why anyone would complain about that, ur getting a drawing and quality content win win
I’m a writer not an illustrator but I love hearing you talk about your craft and progress. It’s always fascinating to watch your vids and this was one of my favorite FakeMon designs.
Videos like this really allow me to understand the complexity’s and beauty of art that I wasn’t able to understand before, it makes me want to get into art more professionally instead of doing it as just a hobby because the complexity of it seems so enticing… this is a really great video dude.
It's funny (and fitting) that the Pokemon themed around the pros and cons of change went through such an extensive design process with so many iterations. Also, while you never mentioned it so I don't know if it's intentional, I can't help but see the face as rather birdlike, with the pink segment looking like a beak, though I assume it's meant to be a chin. If it wasn't intentional, it's an interesting coincidence seeing as how birds prey on both insects and lizards.
never stop talking about your process and your understanding of design. It's inspiring and informative! Been kinda frustrated with my own style lately as well so this was a breath of fresh air! Thank you so much!
please never stop talking about your art process, it's what we're here for and it's been extremely helpful and encouraging for artists like myself :) we love that about you and your channel
As an artist who has currently started following my dream of transitioning from pen and paper to digital all the way to pixel art, who also happens to be a fan of pokemon and is currently working on two separate game concepts that I have developed, I love this video. I saw the first iteration of the design and thought oh my gosh it's amazing, then I saw you make new ones and was like no what are you doing it was so good. I then started liking some of the new designs including not fully realized ones. All the way up until the final design where I thought oh my gosh he really did it. I am in love with your final design and can not wait for the fan project to come out so I can play this in the form it was meant to be experienced! Absolutely amazing work on it. I started to realize how what you were saying has been applying to me recently, I have been pumping out over 50 assets for one game and they were good mostly, but I found myself constantly redesigning them completely till I was happy. But with my second game concepts art coming into the picture I stepped back and started taking more time on some of my art, while it's not as crazy as 60+ hours my measly 4 hours texturing a freaking black symbol on an orb meant to represent the element of lumino or the element of light and good took me nearly 4 hours today. For context I spent 4 hours on a single pixel art orb that is approximately 22x22 pixels wide.
I love the parts where you talk about why and how you did the thing, hearing peoples passion as they talk about what they love is always amazing, and this is 100% the case with you videos
It's always bitter sweet to watch you get rid of a design I love personally, but it is always so rewarding to watch you do the whole process in these videos. Your art is truly an inspiration, especially for growing artists. I hope the Discord opens up again soon! I miss the community and regret leaving by accident.
I really love this new version and the process behind it, I imagine how meta it can be if the old design is how it looked before it shed. Also I always like listening to you explain different concepts and design philosophies in your videos so it is always very interesting when you make a video like this!
I love the design! I like how the cool and warm colors don’t overpower each other, having that mid ground between the box legendaries. The restriction on the face make it almost mysterious, or what the saying goes “hiding their true beauty.” The flow and detail are just super exciting, and makes me want to view it more. I think one thing is that the Pokémon looks a bit like a bird for some reason, it could be because of the beak that I saw. Maybe change it by taking away the beak and using a more pointy snout seen in reptiles would make it stop reading it as a bird.
Your design process was a story in itself and I love that your journey with the design and Elorimonda's in game lore mirrored each other. I cheered when you managed to get such a beautiful design for a fantastic creature. I'm lowkey sad that your other two legendaries didn't get this level of conceptualization and I would be curious to see you do something similar with Hylarmos and Maripome. Thank you for always making such thoughtful videos. You are an incredibly talented artist.
I'm a massive history nerd and I always like to think about how I can be a good historian by documenting my thoughts and processes for everything that I do. I am reaching the end of my PhD, and there's so much meta-data about how and why I made certain decisions that I want to publish as supplementary materials to help future researchers and historians. I feel that videos like these are so important both for future artists and future historians who are going to wonder how and why people in 2022 designed these cool looking characters.
I think this is my new favorite subjectively video; I love how the long video gave you ample time to talk about your process etc, and the advice you gave here really hit home for me. I intend to put everything you said into practice, as after trying it for myself as advised, I really do like what I make a lot more. I often feel like I need to rush or that I make art too slowly, but there's a strong argument to be made in favor of the tortoise it seems. All in all, thanks for this video and for all the inspiration before and to come!
for me the end of my university art course is still extended in part because of this ( and other irl issues) but i couldnt be happier with the progress ive made on my characters, having that breathing room to sit down with my designs and ask "what does this charcater want to feel more like them" was i able to comunicate more with myself about what i wanted and how to execute it in my character designs. i really value these deeper process videos Jack, thank you very much, also look how much youve grown with the mazah region! your art growth and mindset has certainly left an impact on me over the years
Damn this was soooo worth the wait! Also don't pay attention to those comments, I speak for most people I think when the explanation of the design is the best part of the video! Elorimanda looks absolutely *stunning*, I'm sad it lost the tail but you made it work so well!
Not only your drawing was amazing, but this has to be one of my favorite videos. I have to say that I’ve been a long time fan of your channel, but over the years not only your ideas and art has improved but the overall quality of your videos has vastly improved and I can tell you really put a lot of thought in this video and I highly appreciate it. Also thank you for the video because I learned so many new things and you’ve even inspired me, I hope you continue being you and keep being experimental in your own way!
Elorimanda and their design process really speaks to me. Some things I design I love so much that a years-old design I redo just doesn’t capture what the original had, and other times I feel like bashing my head into my sketchbook because I just can’t get a design right. This is probably the first time I’ve really wondered what I could do if I just stop for a moment and think about what I’m designing one piece at a time. Doing that is hard, though! But changing your entire approach to design (or a single design) isn’t easy, and it is a bit like shedding your skin to do what you do in an entirely new way. Thank you for Elorimanda and thank you for reminding me to give myself some time.
I don't understand why some people ask you to "stop talking that much" when that's Exactly the reason Why your designs are so beautiful. Because you put a Lot of thoughts into them. Gosh... internet... thanks for talking, and I just want to tell you this : There are some days when you're the Only voice I listen to (and I have friends....maybe too many, by the way), after the one of my companion, because you're entertaining and relevant at the same time. What you do is a real inspiration, and I guess I'm not the only one thinking of it this way. The way you do what you do makes TH-cam a more healty place than so many of these channels that get millions of views on one video.
This is probably my favorite video of your's. It's so interesting to see your in-depth process on designing. All your ideas are great and seeing you whittling it down to a sleek final design is fantastic
I absolutely love this final design for elorimanda, the middle ground between past and future with it holding onto it's past and and hinting at it's future combined with the asymmetry gives me kyrem vibes, like maybe one can harness some aspect of the others to either regress them back to their previous state, fusing them with their shed skin to return to their previous strong state emulating the tradition legendary and getting a more physical intensive stat line, or they could harness the capacity of change to have them not only shed their shed skin but molt again, revealing a glorious and sleak newer design unhindered by the last with a more special stat spread, and have the base form be kinda split between the 2, like it's trying to break out of the physical shell but it's being held back by it's attachment to it's past skin like you had mentioned, making it's lower power moves being physical but it's higher power moves being special, or maybe vice versa if the designer decides it fitting
I’ve seen people here ask for alternate forms of this legendary. Personally I think you shouldn’t show these alternatives to the public. Preserving some of this mystery sparks the imagination. Kinda hurts to say something like that since I wanna see the Original Dragon so bad but still. Sometimes things aren’t meant to be known.
i agree with you. I feel like it would be a good personal thing to know how it looks pre shed or even post shed, that’s something that shouldn’t be canonically released. the halfway is always going to be the point.
I know I mentioned this in the last Pokémon video, but Maybe there can be another legendary Pokémon that serves as an antagonist. One that would threaten traditionalism and change alike. We have the first predator and the first prey, but what about the first scavenger? A creature that wants to watch everything burn so that it can feed on what is left behind. (Edit: maybe it can have “Diablo” somewhere in the name?)
I love hearing the process that goes into these designs, that's why I watch, and I love seeing how your designs will improve when revisiting them. Its been a blast watching your skills develop over the entire course of the Mazah region!
Controversial opinion (and not to downplay all the work that went into it) but I actually don't like the final version as much as the original! Something about the weight and thickness of the shed skin on the original just appeals to me, and I'm kinda sad it didn't make it to the final. While the final has some beautiful colors and is undeniably a better design for the goals it had in mind... I dunno, I just don't like it as much. It doesn't have the same instant appeal to me, the same graceful charm and tactility of the original. Maybe it's just me though.
I do also think that for all the bulkiness of the original, the first design was a very elegant design, like a queen disrobing her official clothes. In fact, given the insides of the shed skin of Elorimanda, that Smaugust drawing may be a valid pre-shedding Elorimanda as proof that those who say it was beautiful before it shed its skin.
As someone whos been watching this series for a while, please continue taking your time on these designs they end up looking a lot better, and from what I believe makes you more happy with them.
i love that elorimanda's body points to one side and yet its gaze is to the other side, and that this small detail makes it not look like it's siding with either of the other two legendaries. Yet another amazing work and it was as amazing to watch all the process behind this design.
I love the way you explain your thoughts and process going into a design! also love the stories you put into things like kaijune, gives it a whole different feeling! Please never stop doing those in the way that only you can do! I love this channel because it's so calm and unique and everyone's art on this channel is amazing and thank you for sharing it with all of us! :3
bruv!!! first, that intro was so slick!! second,,,a 26 minute video...we were well fed today! That said, i resonated so much with the video and the topic of taking time with letting work gestate and find its way back to you! i find myself realizing that more and more recently, sometime a bit too late after publishing but i think there's a lot of fun in being able to see a design like Elorimanda in two states like you've shared. i really enjoyed watching you iterate and iterate, and seeing the journey it took to get here, and the thought process behind it all. can't imagine how long the editing took but we appreciate it!!!
wow....just wow. Your orignal Elorimanda deisgn was already my favourite design from the Maza region, but this new one might just be my favourite fakemon of all time. Also, i really love it when you go into the design process, what new things you want to learn while making the design and that kinda stuff, it really adds a whole new layer to the contet. Honestly i would love more of these kind of videos where you go really in depth with one video, that way every evolution could also be its own little series.
Love the new design. I especially like the bird like face which also fits with the shedding theme. The underside of the shed skin was extremely gorgeous and I honestly don't think you you've made the texture of it much better. All in all this entire redesign is beautiful and well worth the wait.
I keep coming back to this video. Art block is hard and I’ve been stuck in circles with my cover legendaries right now as well, and this video answers to my thoughts almost word for word. Really great work pushing through on each iteration and landing on that amazing final design to turn everything around - I’ve had similar experiences with some designs, and I know how rewarding it is to finally get there. Thanks for all your videos, you’re truly a gem to the character design community.
Definitely looks so much better and I can see how much work was put into this. The colors on the shed skin looks so cosmic and that adds to the the legendary vibe.
Your videos are such an inspiration to me! I love how much you put into your videos, and I'd gladly watch anything you put out, because the effort is so clearly shown, the designs are always gorgeous, and I always seem to learn something new - something I can apply to my own art! I've watched you for years, and referenced your work for just as long, and I honeslty don't think my art would be halfway to where it is now without your content! Basically what I'm trying to say is, keep it up! High effort content like this is just glorious, I couldn't get enough of it. Few creators have me click the moment I see their videos on my feed, but you're one of them! So seriously, keep rocking your amazing art, and keep talking about it too!
I really enjoy your discussions relating to character design, it’s both calming and interesting, and as someone going into game design it occasionally helps bring up areas that I should think about in designs.
Honestly that's one of your most inspirational videos. Listing to your voice and the explanation was so soothing. I loved the new headshape. The new colours and the texture is what really got me. Like a new/old universe on the inside of the skin. Also with your explanation for the new legendaries of Scarlet and Violet I can appreciate their design so much more. A deeper understanding of a design is really fascinating and helps you appreciate the effort that was put into it. Thank you again for your wonderful videos!
I really enjoyed this because I've found myself doing the same thing with my last few projects. Just recently I took an old concept I had had floating in the back of my head for over a year, and put it to paper. It took me almost 3 months to iron out all the specific design details, and even then I'm still not settled on patterns or colors. I'm currently letting it breathe as I do a few more quick projects in the interim, but at the same time it makes me excited for the time when I finally get that inspiration to iron out the last few micro-details.
I loved the longer-form design overview on this video! All the different topics brought in that you took inspiration from / the goals set, seeing the process in this light was really interesting. And I think the final design really nailed the fit. I like the symbolism behind the shed skin. Unable to let go of who they were in the past, but also being held back by that grip to the past. I know in my life, I'm happy with who I am today, but I wish I could've done more for my past self, and held on to more of who I once was. That is to say, I really enjoy Elorimanda's final design, and I think it definitely makes my top legendary for Mazah.
i love yours, and everyone else;s videos on your channel, and my favorite part is listening to everyone's thoughts about what they're making at the end of the day, if you feel like you wanna teach people or talk in detail about your designs, the people complaining about it can just continue skipping along; those sections aren't for them! your vides have made me want to improve on my own character designs and take my art more into my personal workflow, rather than just my paid work- i really think i needed the hear that first bit LMAO
it's so thematically fitting for elorimanda to warrant this monologue. don't ever stop speaking or elaborating, your creative process is so telling and powerful and i simply adore this glimpse into it all
Man, two years already, and look how far you’ve come! I’m always amazed to see what you draw, and it’s really cool to see how the designs change and evolve over time. Last year I started drawing as a hobby, and your videos always leave me striving to do the best I can. You’re an inspiration to us all, and I hope that you’ll still be enjoying what you do for many more years to come.
I just want to say, as an amateur character designer who has been stressing out over a fan project I joined. I really needed to hear this. at the start I was able to pump out a few designs per week, and it's not that I wasn't putting thought into them either, I just already had a clear idea of what I wanted the characters to look like. but for plenty of both physical and mental reasons, my character designs started taking longer and Ive been endlessly frustrated with some of them. its been hard to keep the design conventions of the canon material, and make the designs accurate to the characters themselves. and honestly? it hasn't been fun in a long time. but seeing that even a professional like you are dealing with similar issues and the way you tackled this design has made it so much easier for me to try to see my process from a new perspective and get back into the swing of things. I've been a fan of your channel for years and your mindset of constantly finding ways to improve and being able to pick up the pieces even if things aren't turning out the way you originally planned has been a lifesaver for me, and I'm happy I rediscovered your channel as I started doing more serious character design work.
Who the hell got the audacity to tell you how to make your video, if they want you to stop talking throughout their video or if they think the designs are trash, they can change the channel. Ain't this some it-shay. You are GOATED.
I really like that you bring us through your thought process while also giving tips for artists on how they could advance or adapt their own art styles. It really helps me as an artist and I use a lot of tips and tricks you suggest in my own designs ☺️
Videos like this are why I love Subjectivity so much! Hearing another artists thought process is so interesting and insightful !! I love the final look of the design
I appreciate you going deep into the frustrations of finding a solid design. It's hard to know in the moment if you've reached the peak design of a concept, or if there's more to be squeezed out of it. And yeah, it can be very hard to let go or even see past what has come before. Good to know that even one as talented as yourself can struggle at times.
one of your best videos yet! and i’ve been a fan for years now. i literally gasped when the new design and the old design were put up against each other - it’s fascinating how good design can just seem so much better… OBJECTIVELY. ;)
In some ways, Im glad I waited so long to finally watch this video. I just started designing my own region and struggled with enjoying designs that I felt like just didnt feel enough like pokemon and more like animals with unique colorings and addons. Taking this video as inspiration will really help me in fixing my designs, and Im glad I finally watched this before I got too deep into designs I didnt like.
A few more changes were made to Elorimanda's design in response to some of the feedback in the comments of this video! Just small things, but you can see them here --> www.deviantart.com/subjectively5
Dang. I did not realize your concept was Progress VS Trafition, that is the same concept me and my team were working with… and in the same region. I may have to take my team back to the drawing board.
Love the changes! Looks like an amazing legendary that I'd definitely want to catch!
personally the head seems a bit bird like, because of the lower jaw looks like a beak to me. Probably mostly because there isn't much if any upper jaw definition. I don't know if this was intentional or not but it's just something I noticed.
Hi I want to say something new elorimanda look like a peacock but the old one is more beautiful than the new one can you change the design i am so sorry because you put a lot effort in new design but I am sorry can you please change the design and think you for looking at this comment think you.
@@tamilarasinadar310 no. :)
It hit me as soon as he read the Pokedex entry at the end. The pokemon both in-universe and as a design "used to look entirely different". the symbolism omgggg
This is big brain time
Funnily enough, the interior of current Elorimanda is similar to gold/purple Smaugust Elorimanda, so you can literally use that design as some “past form of Elorimanda” if you wanted.
Didn’t expect you to be here. Hello there.
@@MysteryTheE LMAO HI
@@SoxOPhone howdy 😂
please don't stop talking about stuff on your videos
i'm a aspiring artist and your videos help me a lot
understanding the process that goes behind your drawings is half the fun i get from your content
^
True!
Agreed, These kinda of things help others learn, and even help us create our own styles.
This. Only the real ones understands the necessity of commentaries.
I'm not even an artist and I still enjoy the talking and breaking down segments just as much if not more so than the drawing, It's interesting and good to listen and learn these things.
I really hate it when people just say “your art doesn’t look good” without giving any constructive criticism and those who get mad at you talking about what you’ve worked on, because that’s your choice and how you format your videos.
(Sorry if this comment isn’t easy to read)
Anytime I see somewhat give criticism of art like that without explaining what's wrong with it, I usually just reply with "Alright well, YOU make what YOU want then."
@@Scoonga_Doonga exactly
Eh, I say someone should be able to announce they don’t like something without having to explain what they don’t like as long as they aren’t rude. We’re free to have opinions after all, and all art is subjective.
@@lerombus6020 the issue is when they state their opinions as facts
@@yun7V3nu2 yeah, it does hurt if there’s no actual construction, but I don’t think it’s something to actually hate. And the other person isn’t malicious for doing so.
In the end, they simply just don’t like it. And there’s bound to be many many other people who do like it.
BABE WAKE UP NEW SUBJECTIVELY VIDEO
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I have awaken from my eternal slumber.
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Can I just say, I may be a non-artist myself but I AM an aspiring writer, and dude I absolutely LOVE the stuff you talk about in these videos!! Whenever I click on a Subjectively video, I never do so with the intention to just see a design and leave, or even just for the reasonings behind a design. No, honestly the thing I adore most in these videos is the way you will take certain aspects and ideologies behind creating art, and basically make an entertaining and educational video around it, all without making the designs feel like an after thought. Honestly I know there's people who will just skip to the designs and be done with it, but I mean it when I say that I hang on to EVERY WORD in these videos! They've helped me in more ways than you can imagine when it comes to creating, especially this video!!
Agreed, seeing these kinds of things help aspiring artist/ writers/ any hobbies tbh grow and develop their skills and even create their own techniques that they can even teach others, and the cycle continues.
The lore and reasoning behind the pokemon really adds personality to the video and the pokemon itself!
I do agree so much. I feel the same way. I am a dm for a dnd world and both my writing and some enemy designing process for monsters and maps walk through sinilar steps. The discussions of the process of creating sonething, is very relatable for me and I can learn from a lot sometime.
Thank you so much for putting this into words- I feel the exact same way!! Jack's art is freaking amazing, but the lore is really what pulls everything together with this series and everything else he (and the subjectively team) puts out!
I'd like to be a writer too but uh ... "me no word good" 😅
Really like this redesign, elorimandas face looks more bird like, which works really well as a third between insect and lizard, because birds eat both
They also all hatch from eggs! Birds are even more perfect because they can look vastly different between infancy and adulthood, like bugs, despite not going through metamorphosis
@@christinafrazier1364 Incorrect and false, bugs are perfect.
Don’t some birds molt their feathers as well?
@@davidjavier2152 No they just fall off
@@davidjavier2152 they do have feathers fall off and grow back, so I understand where you're coming from. It just doesn't adhere to the definition of molting though. They keep the same skin and body, they just get a fresh coat. It's more like a haircut rather than a full metamorphosis.
you know what shows art is truly amazing? The fact you can engage someone for 25 minuets on one singular , amazing work of art. I'm working on a project myself and this gave me the inspiration I needed. AMAZING video. Please make more like it
I didn't even realise it was 25 minutes until I read this comment after finishing the video. I was so thoroughly engaged by everything that I assumed the video was the usual 10-15 minutes long when first clicking on it. I just knew I had to watch, time be damned!
It’s crazy how the process of the art evokes its theme. Genius!
It’ll be interesting to see if you decide to do alternate forms of Elorimanda to reflect the other legendaries and choices the player makes in the game. Like necrozma and kyurem having alternate forms. A completely shed one that has the skin as sort of a second body and a Parental-Bond like ability where it hits twice. And one where it wraps itself with even more skin/ribbon armor and has an ability like Disguise.
Elorimanda-Cloaked and Elorimanda-Freed
This reminded me of Type: NULL and Silvally
Elorimanda - Cloaked Forme & Elorimanda - Liberated Forme
I would love to see elorimanda shedded forme, like how the player lucky to witness its shedding session (which occur once every 1 million year) lol that would give it more back story
And of course Elorimanda in its purest form symbolises that progress and modernity is good, but we cannot forget the skin we once wore - or risk losing what once humbled us
I think an important part of its design and concept, though, is the mystery, the uncertainty and anticipation, of not knowing if, when it sheds, it will be more beautiful, or if something amazing will be ruined. I still think this could work though.
It could be a very _different_ design, not one designed to be explicitly MORE beautiful. One that some could feel is better than its previous shroud, and others could argue that it's worse.
And to retain the sense of anticipation, the new form's skin could be loose in some places. You can tell that it has the potential to shed again. You almost feel like you can see new eyes underneath. But how far are you willing to go?
PLEASE NEVER STOP TALKING ABOUT YOUR DESIGNS I cant STATE ENOUGH just how interesting your Design processes and thoughts are! My heart is just so happy to see so many cultures being shown and properly represented in an amazing video like this!! Never stop your amazing work you guys at subjectively!
Shiinotic slowly fading in to stare at us is so funny to me
I wonder if the evil team could be trying to tear off the skin from this legendary to force a new age on the Mazah region...
On an unrelated note,
I love your vids and you're an inspiring artist. Take all the time you need, because the results are worth it.
And in the other version, the evil team’s goal could be trying to force the skin back, in a futile and psychotic attempt to “return to the glory/beauty of the original form (past)”.
Jack, I'd sit in a class of yours any day man! I came to this channel for Pokemon and found myself watching everything else
Gorgeous doesn't even begin to describe Elorimanda, it is just it's own league by a large margin.
Also please keep talking in your videos, the thoughts you lay on those segments helped me develop as an artist a lot, and I was needing this video in specific.
I think you should add a bit more fruits to Titanotrops chin or tail to go with the whole "fruit punch" thing and distinguish it from Mackabanana. Things like dragon fruits and mangos, etc. It would also add to the whole diet lore.
You know what would be a fun idea if you’re up for it? Making Proto and Neo forms of this Fakémon (Proto being before it shed its skin and Neo being with its skin completely shed) It’s up to you tho. Love your stuff!
I know I'd love to see it. Kinda like deoxys. Except maybe what form you get is entirely influenced by choices you make in the story?
Brilliant idea
😮
I dont think that this is a good idea, the message of this pokemon is that it COULD be even more beautiful if it molted one more time, but it isn’t sure. The ambiguity of the design is what makes it good, and if he designs a version to look more beautiful, it would mean that the group of modernity is right, and the group of tradition is wrong.
Feels like that misses the point of the design
I definitely think that it couldn't be just 1 alt forme, obviously. The toughest part is that both of its new forms would need to be equally beautiful, or at least arguably more beautiful depending on personal taste. The prior skin would be adhearing to the beauty standards of old, or a more natural beauty, like the natural elegance of a waterfall or beach sunset. The newer skin would be a more modern beauty, bright colors and strong reflections, like a colorful window pane or bottle. Both would be beautiful in there own right, but many would also agree that the original form held the most true beauty, like an abandon or sunken city overun by nature.
the shapes and textures in elorimanda's new design are absolutely gorgeous; when you started sketching in the spiraling skin around the neck i was instantly taken in! also please don't feel discouraged about chatting in your videos; a lot of us watch them *for* your rambling! your insight on character design has been genuinely incredibly helpful and inspiring!
Hey this is beautiful, man. I'm all about putting methodical time into design work instead of feeding the algorithm quickly- I've learned the same thing over the years too. All the best to you!!
Love it when you take a lot of time making videos, it always makes me sure that it’s gonna be a good one
Exactly
Kinda fitting that a character which design took many passes to get finalized has change and variation as an integral part of it's lore too. It's too perfect. Imagination runs wild thinking about how this pokemon would look before starting and after completely shedding it's skin (with some alternative forms maybe). Congratulations for such an amazing work, as always.
The elegance and mystique of the design is perfect, it truly evokes the feeling of something otherworldly and divine. I love how dynamically its posed, it shows how special it is perfectly.
When I saw the new design, I immediately thought, “THAT’S Elorimanda.” Good work, man!
Now I'm curious about what a pre-shed elorimanda would look like
and a fully shedded one.
This is amazing, Elorimanda looks splendid and majestic. I actually think the tail situation, where the design makes you wonder if it has one or not, somewhat helps with the theme. Since it makes you wonder if it did have a tail, but it was shed, or does it currently have one that is hidden away. But there is something else, Elorimanda doesn’t really have a connection to the order of nature aspect, the prey and predator aspect. This may not be needed, but it is the second biggest aspect of their designs. If you are willing to have another go at this design, possibly a form change for it which interacts with the shed skin, which could play into that more. Even if a third legend doesn’t resemble its counterparts, it still plays into the major themes of the trio. Necrozma being a white/black dwarf plus incorporating prisms, black holes, super novas, and prisms which manipulate light; playing into its trio’s themes of light and celestial bodies. Eturnatus is an ancient evil and a dragon, which tend to play play the antagonist role in legends and are just as crucial role in the formation and retelling of legends. And Kyurem is the wuji to Zekrom and Reshiram’s yin and Yang, a being without any truth or ideals to give it meaning, but has the potential to be filled with either or both, and is the cooling ice of a nuclear generator. These are just examples, but I think you can get the point. I have little idea how you implement that, but looking into other aspects of the balance of nature which are just as essential if not more than the predator prey one may be one angle. Another could be other kinds of diets, omnivores for example, with their own complimentary philosophies may also help
Overall all great job and love the design, but just wanted to say my piece
Even though I cant so digital art and am only experienced with pen and paper, I can still really appreciate this type of artwork and the amazing work and product of this channel. Love your content, Jack!
Who do you think you are?
I really enjoyed the extensive explanation of this art work. That's exactly what sets you apart from other fakemon artists. My favorite part of your videos is when you take us through the design process, and explain the inner workings of the design. I really loved how much you put into this one. I'd really love it if you did did your art like this more. Focus on quality over quantity, and take time to explain it all.
Liking the spiky jagged flower petal dress can still be reincorporated into its animations! Its shed skin could temporarily flare outward as a display of power or something like that
This is your most Pokemon like design to me. I love the process and presentation of the design section of this video. As a usual dialogue skipper it was a breath of fresh air to hear your struggles. Awesome work. I hope you take a slower pass going forward as well.
I understand why people would want you to not talk so much and just get to the drawing, but when it comes to something like character/creature design, I LOVE hearing the thought process behind it.
I like to hear what inspires people and how they go about doing every aspect, from choosing what to base a design off of, to how they do sketching, line art, coloring, and rendering. I also really like knowing what tools people use, like in you case an iPad with Procreate.
There're always going to be people who don't like something about a certain piece of content, but there will always be those who are the opposite. Just keep doing what you're doing.
the final design is a massive improvement from the original, colours and patterns are super pretty! though i gotta say i love the long tail you did at 21:20. i do think the skirt thing works better for the overall shape though
As a new novelist, I get you SO MUCH on the “art vs product” thing. I want to make the best stuff possible, but I also have to put them out on a schedule and write to fit my genre. It can be exhausting.
And Elorimanda is GORGEOUS!!!
Dude, I'm pratically speechless, the design improvement was so big, and the love you put into it is beautiful
NEVER STOP talking for minutes and minutes Jack, it’s the whole reason your videos are so entertaining to watch! All of your jokes and clever comments are so fun and your videos are just so awesome in general! Keep doing what you’re doing!
When you talked about drawing the shed skin separately from the pokemon, I had a cool idea for a unique ability, where when the pokemon's HP reaches half, it would dramatically throw its shed skin away like how person in a drama would throw away a cloak to reveal their hidden identity. Doing so would decrease Elirimonda's defensive stats by half, but its offensive stats would double, and any status ailments would be cured.
That sounds amazing but also super broken
@@Zip_Zap_Zop That’s legendary Pokémon for you haha
@@Zip_Zap_Zop *laughs and cries in Zacian*
There’s already a shed skin ability right? It seems fitting to give it that.
@@boooksareamazing my idea was more of a combination of the shed skin ability and Shell Smash. Also, it could only be used once.
I, like many other artists here I bet, really do relate to the issue of "Not wanting to put too much time on a piece". I personally try to avoid sitting too long on one art peice cause I know that the next day I will most likly hate it and not wanna continue it. Yet one gotta sit back and trust the process and just take the time.
I love both designs in this video to be honest. The first really caught my dragon obsessed intrest but do understand why it feel wrong. The new form really caught your eyes and made you guess what it could become. It also played more on the mystery of a third legendary. It felt like it could easily do a reveal at the end where it sheds the last of the skin to become its final form too strong to handle. Almost like it's rage with the humans of the region over them fighting over what it should do (like them fighting over it staying like it is or change further like you mentioned) could cause it to go mad. We all know the pressure of people telling you want to do and what to become. The last form could then be something like "Corrupted beauty becomes beast" -ish.
Beauty like a Rose. If you don't handle it right it will make you bleed.
The shed skin being long flowing wrappings evokes tapestry too- telling its story and using it to form its current identity!
dude whoever thinks you should just not talk in the speedpaint is crazy, at least in my case thats my favorite part, idk your voice is simply relaxing to me
AH man, I really liked that cobra skin idea but I gotta say, I love the new design. Especially the combination of seemingly bird (in the face) and reptilian like features. Overall really cool design
I love how this guy talks, it's like he wants you to learn something in a video about drawing pokemon. I legit don't understand why anyone would complain about that, ur getting a drawing and quality content win win
I’m a writer not an illustrator but I love hearing you talk about your craft and progress. It’s always fascinating to watch your vids and this was one of my favorite FakeMon designs.
Videos like this really allow me to understand the complexity’s and beauty of art that I wasn’t able to understand before, it makes me want to get into art more professionally instead of doing it as just a hobby because the complexity of it seems so enticing… this is a really great video dude.
Wow, Elorimanda looks amazing! This design simply screams 'All powerful being'
WOW, the texture of the inside is absolutely gorgeous, and really gives the design life and makes it feel grand!
It's funny (and fitting) that the Pokemon themed around the pros and cons of change went through such an extensive design process with so many iterations. Also, while you never mentioned it so I don't know if it's intentional, I can't help but see the face as rather birdlike, with the pink segment looking like a beak, though I assume it's meant to be a chin. If it wasn't intentional, it's an interesting coincidence seeing as how birds prey on both insects and lizards.
never stop talking about your process and your understanding of design. It's inspiring and informative! Been kinda frustrated with my own style lately as well so this was a breath of fresh air! Thank you so much!
please never stop talking about your art process, it's what we're here for and it's been extremely helpful and encouraging for artists like myself :) we love that about you and your channel
As an artist who has currently started following my dream of transitioning from pen and paper to digital all the way to pixel art, who also happens to be a fan of pokemon and is currently working on two separate game concepts that I have developed, I love this video. I saw the first iteration of the design and thought oh my gosh it's amazing, then I saw you make new ones and was like no what are you doing it was so good. I then started liking some of the new designs including not fully realized ones. All the way up until the final design where I thought oh my gosh he really did it. I am in love with your final design and can not wait for the fan project to come out so I can play this in the form it was meant to be experienced! Absolutely amazing work on it.
I started to realize how what you were saying has been applying to me recently, I have been pumping out over 50 assets for one game and they were good mostly, but I found myself constantly redesigning them completely till I was happy. But with my second game concepts art coming into the picture I stepped back and started taking more time on some of my art, while it's not as crazy as 60+ hours my measly 4 hours texturing a freaking black symbol on an orb meant to represent the element of lumino or the element of light and good took me nearly 4 hours today. For context I spent 4 hours on a single pixel art orb that is approximately 22x22 pixels wide.
This is simply astonishing !
They say that 'you should dress to impress'.
Elorimanda literally gives of vibes of 'wearing' its mighty powers.
I love the parts where you talk about why and how you did the thing, hearing peoples passion as they talk about what they love is always amazing, and this is 100% the case with you videos
It's always bitter sweet to watch you get rid of a design I love personally, but it is always so rewarding to watch you do the whole process in these videos. Your art is truly an inspiration, especially for growing artists.
I hope the Discord opens up again soon! I miss the community and regret leaving by accident.
I really love this new version and the process behind it, I imagine how meta it can be if the old design is how it looked before it shed.
Also I always like listening to you explain different concepts and design philosophies in your videos so it is always very interesting when you make a video like this!
I love the design! I like how the cool and warm colors don’t overpower each other, having that mid ground between the box legendaries. The restriction on the face make it almost mysterious, or what the saying goes “hiding their true beauty.” The flow and detail are just super exciting, and makes me want to view it more.
I think one thing is that the Pokémon looks a bit like a bird for some reason, it could be because of the beak that I saw. Maybe change it by taking away the beak and using a more pointy snout seen in reptiles would make it stop reading it as a bird.
Your design process was a story in itself and I love that your journey with the design and Elorimonda's in game lore mirrored each other. I cheered when you managed to get such a beautiful design for a fantastic creature. I'm lowkey sad that your other two legendaries didn't get this level of conceptualization and I would be curious to see you do something similar with Hylarmos and Maripome.
Thank you for always making such thoughtful videos. You are an incredibly talented artist.
I'm a massive history nerd and I always like to think about how I can be a good historian by documenting my thoughts and processes for everything that I do. I am reaching the end of my PhD, and there's so much meta-data about how and why I made certain decisions that I want to publish as supplementary materials to help future researchers and historians. I feel that videos like these are so important both for future artists and future historians who are going to wonder how and why people in 2022 designed these cool looking characters.
Calm down, Dr. Atterbury.
I think this is my new favorite subjectively video; I love how the long video gave you ample time to talk about your process etc, and the advice you gave here really hit home for me. I intend to put everything you said into practice, as after trying it for myself as advised, I really do like what I make a lot more. I often feel like I need to rush or that I make art too slowly, but there's a strong argument to be made in favor of the tortoise it seems. All in all, thanks for this video and for all the inspiration before and to come!
i really like how it looks like a bird. The first few designs were too lizard like in my opinion.
for me the end of my university art course is still extended in part because of this ( and other irl issues) but i couldnt be happier with the progress ive made on my characters, having that breathing room to sit down with my designs and ask "what does this charcater want to feel more like them" was i able to comunicate more with myself about what i wanted and how to execute it in my character designs.
i really value these deeper process videos Jack, thank you very much, also look how much youve grown with the mazah region! your art growth and mindset has certainly left an impact on me over the years
Dude… the amount of time you put into this is incredible! As an aspiring professional artist myself, your stuff is insanely inspiring.
Damn this was soooo worth the wait!
Also don't pay attention to those comments, I speak for most people I think when the explanation of the design is the best part of the video!
Elorimanda looks absolutely *stunning*, I'm sad it lost the tail but you made it work so well!
I felt Elorimanda was a Psychic type when it was revealed, definitely worth the wait 👍
Not only your drawing was amazing, but this has to be one of my favorite videos. I have to say that I’ve been a long time fan of your channel, but over the years not only your ideas and art has improved but the overall quality of your videos has vastly improved and I can tell you really put a lot of thought in this video and I highly appreciate it. Also thank you for the video because I learned so many new things and you’ve even inspired me, I hope you continue being you and keep being experimental in your own way!
This video is inspiring me to start making my own fakemons again ❤
Elorimanda and their design process really speaks to me. Some things I design I love so much that a years-old design I redo just doesn’t capture what the original had, and other times I feel like bashing my head into my sketchbook because I just can’t get a design right. This is probably the first time I’ve really wondered what I could do if I just stop for a moment and think about what I’m designing one piece at a time. Doing that is hard, though! But changing your entire approach to design (or a single design) isn’t easy, and it is a bit like shedding your skin to do what you do in an entirely new way. Thank you for Elorimanda and thank you for reminding me to give myself some time.
I've got to ask.
In the Mazah region, how would a trainer handle Terrain Obstacles ?
The good ol' but space-taking HMs, or something else ?
I don't understand why some people ask you to "stop talking that much" when that's Exactly the reason Why your designs are so beautiful. Because you put a Lot of thoughts into them. Gosh... internet... thanks for talking, and I just want to tell you this : There are some days when you're the Only voice I listen to (and I have friends....maybe too many, by the way), after the one of my companion, because you're entertaining and relevant at the same time. What you do is a real inspiration, and I guess I'm not the only one thinking of it this way. The way you do what you do makes TH-cam a more healty place than so many of these channels that get millions of views on one video.
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
This is probably my favorite video of your's. It's so interesting to see your in-depth process on designing. All your ideas are great and seeing you whittling it down to a sleek final design is fantastic
We need names for our hypothetical pokemon games don't we? Especially our third game. Good job
hi, one of the developers of the actual mazah region game here :) we’re working on just one version for our game named Pokémon Untamed!
@@ChespinCraft really nice
I absolutely love this final design for elorimanda, the middle ground between past and future with it holding onto it's past and and hinting at it's future combined with the asymmetry gives me kyrem vibes, like maybe one can harness some aspect of the others to either regress them back to their previous state, fusing them with their shed skin to return to their previous strong state emulating the tradition legendary and getting a more physical intensive stat line, or they could harness the capacity of change to have them not only shed their shed skin but molt again, revealing a glorious and sleak newer design unhindered by the last with a more special stat spread, and have the base form be kinda split between the 2, like it's trying to break out of the physical shell but it's being held back by it's attachment to it's past skin like you had mentioned, making it's lower power moves being physical but it's higher power moves being special, or maybe vice versa if the designer decides it fitting
I’ve seen people here ask for alternate forms of this legendary.
Personally I think you shouldn’t show these alternatives to the public. Preserving some of this mystery sparks the imagination.
Kinda hurts to say something like that since I wanna see the Original Dragon so bad but still. Sometimes things aren’t meant to be known.
i agree with you. I feel like it would be a good personal thing to know how it looks pre shed or even post shed, that’s something that shouldn’t be canonically released. the halfway is always going to be the point.
With the design based on these tricky concepts, this rendition you e made is absolutely gorgeous
I know I mentioned this in the last Pokémon video, but Maybe there can be another legendary Pokémon that serves as an antagonist. One that would threaten traditionalism and change alike. We have the first predator and the first prey, but what about the first scavenger? A creature that wants to watch everything burn so that it can feed on what is left behind. (Edit: maybe it can have “Diablo” somewhere in the name?)
I love hearing the process that goes into these designs, that's why I watch, and I love seeing how your designs will improve when revisiting them. Its been a blast watching your skills develop over the entire course of the Mazah region!
Controversial opinion (and not to downplay all the work that went into it) but I actually don't like the final version as much as the original! Something about the weight and thickness of the shed skin on the original just appeals to me, and I'm kinda sad it didn't make it to the final. While the final has some beautiful colors and is undeniably a better design for the goals it had in mind... I dunno, I just don't like it as much. It doesn't have the same instant appeal to me, the same graceful charm and tactility of the original. Maybe it's just me though.
I do also think that for all the bulkiness of the original, the first design was a very elegant design, like a queen disrobing her official clothes. In fact, given the insides of the shed skin of Elorimanda, that Smaugust drawing may be a valid pre-shedding Elorimanda as proof that those who say it was beautiful before it shed its skin.
It also helps that it looks more like a disrobing instead of a shedding of skin, so those skin parts could instead be flaking skin.
23:30 just this side by side is incredible. Both designs are good, but you can tell which design was more thought out.
Skipping the subjectively cutscenes is cringe
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As someone whos been watching this series for a while, please continue taking your time on these designs they end up looking a lot better, and from what I believe makes you more happy with them.
i love that elorimanda's body points to one side and yet its gaze is to the other side, and that this small detail makes it not look like it's siding with either of the other two legendaries. Yet another amazing work and it was as amazing to watch all the process behind this design.
I love the way you explain your thoughts and process going into a design!
also love the stories you put into things like kaijune, gives it a whole different feeling!
Please never stop doing those in the way that only you can do!
I love this channel because it's so calm and unique and everyone's art on this channel is amazing and thank you for sharing it with all of us! :3
bruv!!! first, that intro was so slick!! second,,,a 26 minute video...we were well fed today!
That said, i resonated so much with the video and the topic of taking time with letting work gestate and find its way back to you! i find myself realizing that more and more recently, sometime a bit too late after publishing but i think there's a lot of fun in being able to see a design like Elorimanda in two states like you've shared. i really enjoyed watching you iterate and iterate, and seeing the journey it took to get here, and the thought process behind it all. can't imagine how long the editing took but we appreciate it!!!
wow....just wow. Your orignal Elorimanda deisgn was already my favourite design from the Maza region, but this new one might just be my favourite fakemon of all time. Also, i really love it when you go into the design process, what new things you want to learn while making the design and that kinda stuff, it really adds a whole new layer to the contet. Honestly i would love more of these kind of videos where you go really in depth with one video, that way every evolution could also be its own little series.
Love the new design. I especially like the bird like face which also fits with the shedding theme. The underside of the shed skin was extremely gorgeous and I honestly don't think you you've made the texture of it much better. All in all this entire redesign is beautiful and well worth the wait.
I keep coming back to this video. Art block is hard and I’ve been stuck in circles with my cover legendaries right now as well, and this video answers to my thoughts almost word for word.
Really great work pushing through on each iteration and landing on that amazing final design to turn everything around - I’ve had similar experiences with some designs, and I know how rewarding it is to finally get there. Thanks for all your videos, you’re truly a gem to the character design community.
Definitely looks so much better and I can see how much work was put into this. The colors on the shed skin looks so cosmic and that adds to the the legendary vibe.
Your videos are such an inspiration to me! I love how much you put into your videos, and I'd gladly watch anything you put out, because the effort is so clearly shown, the designs are always gorgeous, and I always seem to learn something new - something I can apply to my own art! I've watched you for years, and referenced your work for just as long, and I honeslty don't think my art would be halfway to where it is now without your content!
Basically what I'm trying to say is, keep it up! High effort content like this is just glorious, I couldn't get enough of it. Few creators have me click the moment I see their videos on my feed, but you're one of them! So seriously, keep rocking your amazing art, and keep talking about it too!
I really enjoy your discussions relating to character design, it’s both calming and interesting, and as someone going into game design it occasionally helps bring up areas that I should think about in designs.
Honestly that's one of your most inspirational videos. Listing to your voice and the explanation was so soothing. I loved the new headshape. The new colours and the texture is what really got me. Like a new/old universe on the inside of the skin.
Also with your explanation for the new legendaries of Scarlet and Violet I can appreciate their design so much more. A deeper understanding of a design is really fascinating and helps you appreciate the effort that was put into it. Thank you again for your wonderful videos!
I really enjoyed this because I've found myself doing the same thing with my last few projects. Just recently I took an old concept I had had floating in the back of my head for over a year, and put it to paper. It took me almost 3 months to iron out all the specific design details, and even then I'm still not settled on patterns or colors. I'm currently letting it breathe as I do a few more quick projects in the interim, but at the same time it makes me excited for the time when I finally get that inspiration to iron out the last few micro-details.
I loved the longer-form design overview on this video! All the different topics brought in that you took inspiration from / the goals set, seeing the process in this light was really interesting.
And I think the final design really nailed the fit. I like the symbolism behind the shed skin. Unable to let go of who they were in the past, but also being held back by that grip to the past. I know in my life, I'm happy with who I am today, but I wish I could've done more for my past self, and held on to more of who I once was.
That is to say, I really enjoy Elorimanda's final design, and I think it definitely makes my top legendary for Mazah.
i love yours, and everyone else;s videos on your channel, and my favorite part is listening to everyone's thoughts about what they're making
at the end of the day, if you feel like you wanna teach people or talk in detail about your designs, the people complaining about it can just continue skipping along; those sections aren't for them!
your vides have made me want to improve on my own character designs and take my art more into my personal workflow, rather than just my paid work- i really think i needed the hear that first bit LMAO
it's so thematically fitting for elorimanda to warrant this monologue. don't ever stop speaking or elaborating, your creative process is so telling and powerful and i simply adore this glimpse into it all
Man, two years already, and look how far you’ve come! I’m always amazed to see what you draw, and it’s really cool to see how the designs change and evolve over time. Last year I started drawing as a hobby, and your videos always leave me striving to do the best I can. You’re an inspiration to us all, and I hope that you’ll still be enjoying what you do for many more years to come.
I just want to say, as an amateur character designer who has been stressing out over a fan project I joined. I really needed to hear this. at the start I was able to pump out a few designs per week, and it's not that I wasn't putting thought into them either, I just already had a clear idea of what I wanted the characters to look like. but for plenty of both physical and mental reasons, my character designs started taking longer and Ive been endlessly frustrated with some of them. its been hard to keep the design conventions of the canon material, and make the designs accurate to the characters themselves. and honestly? it hasn't been fun in a long time. but seeing that even a professional like you are dealing with similar issues and the way you tackled this design has made it so much easier for me to try to see my process from a new perspective and get back into the swing of things. I've been a fan of your channel for years and your mindset of constantly finding ways to improve and being able to pick up the pieces even if things aren't turning out the way you originally planned has been a lifesaver for me, and I'm happy I rediscovered your channel as I started doing more serious character design work.
Who the hell got the audacity to tell you how to make your video, if they want you to stop talking throughout their video or if they think the designs are trash, they can change the channel. Ain't this some it-shay. You are GOATED.
I really like that you bring us through your thought process while also giving tips for artists on how they could advance or adapt their own art styles. It really helps me as an artist and I use a lot of tips and tricks you suggest in my own designs ☺️
Videos like this are why I love Subjectivity so much! Hearing another artists thought process is so interesting and insightful !! I love the final look of the design
I appreciate you going deep into the frustrations of finding a solid design. It's hard to know in the moment if you've reached the peak design of a concept, or if there's more to be squeezed out of it. And yeah, it can be very hard to let go or even see past what has come before. Good to know that even one as talented as yourself can struggle at times.
one of your best videos yet! and i’ve been a fan for years now. i literally gasped when the new design and the old design were put up against each other - it’s fascinating how good design can just seem so much better… OBJECTIVELY. ;)
In some ways, Im glad I waited so long to finally watch this video. I just started designing my own region and struggled with enjoying designs that I felt like just didnt feel enough like pokemon and more like animals with unique colorings and addons. Taking this video as inspiration will really help me in fixing my designs, and Im glad I finally watched this before I got too deep into designs I didnt like.