BUS ACCIDENT! RECOVERING A DAMAGED BUS! UK HEAVY RECOVERY!
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- BUS ACCIDENT! RECOVERING A DAMAGED BUS! UK HEAVY RECOVERY!
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Welcome to Heavy Recovery with Steve!
I'm Steve - a Heavy Vehicle Recovery Driver from the South of England. I've been involved in recovery all my life, from a young age working in a family-owned car recovery business and acquiring the licences necessary to operate some of the largest vehicles on the road, to eventually working for some of the largest recovery firms in the UK.
I've set up this channel to provide insights into the world of recovery and whether you're here with the intent to step into the world of recovery or just interested in seeing the action - I hope you find thoroughly enjoy the videos!
During 2022 - my channel will provide content on the following, so feel free to subscribe if this is of interest you!
- How to start a career in Heavy Vehicle Recovery for the newcomers looking to take the plunge
- POV style videos of recovering Heavy Good Vehicles (HGVs) out in the UK roads
- Walkaround style videos of the largest heavy recovery vehicles in the UK
Music in all videos credited to Bensound.com.
Drone footage in Intro from Marian Croitoru.
Note - these are not training videos. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
love how well equipped that truck is.
Thanks for watching Andrew.
Your video footage is incredible so clear even when under the bus. You get the job done and show how its done .
Glad to see you using the blocks under the bus wheels after you lifted it. No way would I get under the vehicle without them.
Having been a recovery guy it's great to see the job being done very informative Steve I'm sure we've met before lol keep up the great work buddy
Hi again Steve it's John from kidlington again I'm so addicted to your videos to show people what your work entails, I absolutely love the way that explain to your viewers including me what. You actually do in your job and how you recover vehicles perfectly keep up the good work mate from John in kidlington in oxfordshire
Hi John thanks for kind comments.
As a heavy duty towing and recovery operator of 25 years in the states. It was nice to see how you hook up one of those coaches.
What a really good video. Every commercial operator, from PLC to owner-driver needs to find a good recovery company; don't leave it until the day you need one to start looking for one.
A few people are commenting on the damage. If it's any help for them, I can give a quick overview of the repair procedure. From what can be seen in the video, it's not that bad and the ADL E200 is designed to be ultra-easy to work on. Firstly, remove all the panels in the area to expose the vertical posts of the frame (there are no longitudinal parts in the damaged area, which makes it much easier). You simply cut back the damaged vertical posts to around 3 inches above their highest point of damage. You then order the frame repair kits from ADL, which is basically a C shaped sleeve designed to fit over the truncated post, which is then secured using either bolt or something like an Avdel rivet, depending on kit and location. You then offer up the replacement post into the C shaped sleeve, securing it in a similar way. At the base of the newly installed replacement post, you will need to replace the bracket which holds the panels. This needs to be measured and drilled carefully to ensure all holes line up when finished. The bracket needs to have nutserts fitted (a threaded tube) before the bracket is installed. Once you have this, then you simply bolt on new panels. In respect of the oil leak, this is hydraulic oil from the fan system (the E200's fan is powered by hydraulics) and there is a small oil cooler in the main cooler pack (including main radiator and charge air cooler). Pound to a penny that the cooler pack frame has been bent and that has nipped the oil cooler, causing it to leak. To replace the oil cooler is a very easy job and should take no more than an hour or so and the cooler frame is light weight steel and fairly easy to straighten; if the cooler pack frame is damaged beyond repair then it's about a day to a day and a half to strip it out and replace, but based on experience I'd suggest it looks fine. The expensive bit is the radiator door, which is currently listed at around £1,300 and is not available with ADL at the moment... (or wasn't last month when I tried to get one). Not including painting or recovery, I'd estimate this at £2,500 repair- though if it's going through the insurance it could end up being double that.
One small thing- and I greatly respect Steve's observation that different recovery companies might lift in different ways, but I would always recommend lifting the E200 by the axle and not the frame, as per the ADL engineering manual. The reasons for this are: a) this brings too many components into close proximity of the boom when the vehicles are underway and this is amplified by the fact that the bus is now effectively unsprung at the front. b) no matter how careful the recovery company is, this will chip the underseal on the vehicle, which means it needs to be touched-up afterwards; the axle, being heavy duty forged won't be underseal treated and thus nothing to risk chipping off. This is not a criticism of Steve, only my perspective of having to deal with these vehicles when they come of the recovery truck; ask 10 different people involved in operating these buses and you'll likely get 20 opinions.
I haven't used R&S myself, as they're out of our area, but close enough for me to know they have an excellent reputation.
I get you say these aren't training videos, but I learn so many tricks from watching people from all over the world doing the same job as me 👍
Another great video Steve, the commentary and filming is just right to be able to understand the recovery process.
Steve the filmstar! Heavy recovery.
1 man & his DAF breakdown truck.
Hi from the US... Love watching Ron Pratt on youtube here in the US and you in the UK. Thanks for sharing! Stay safe!
Hi JB , thanks for watching and welcome and i also watch Ron Pratt.
Heavy Recovery with the big gun's steve great old video form 2 year;s a go's it is still good to wacth in 2024
Thanks for watching .
Another great video Steve thank you buddy hope there’s plenty more to come
Nice lift n scoop on sunny day, cant ask for better bread n butter work. Stay safe out there Steve 👍
Is amazinv how natural you are at your job and how easy is for you to pick up a vehicle because you know all steps and you never feel lost like "oh, what should I do now?"
Thanks for watching.
Thank you so much Steve for these videos, it's great to see a professional at work, keeping our roads moving and recovering when things go wrong! Excellent work!
Yes agree with you
Wowwwwwwwwwww! The state of that rear end of the bus, what a mess! That's a lot to handle!
I wonder, for bigger jobs do you have to have a helper or assistant or do you typically do all the jobs solo?
Really loving the narration and explanation style as usual. Also thanks for the volume adjustment on the intro, it works great now and I can keep the same volume throughout comfortably.
And that was so great to see a fan come up and see you. Definitely getting some recognition for great work.
Hi Seth, thanks very much for watching again, mostly work solo but can call on company resources such as our Rotator if needed .
Hello. From what I could see in the video, the damage is not actually that bad. To someone not used to repairing it, it may seem a mess but it's actually quite a good design of vehicle in respect of making repairs.
I have written a comment above about the procedure for making this repair. In summary, if the parts are available then the bus could be repaired in a day, maybe 2 if they had to replace the whole cooler pack.
@@derekstuart5234 Most of the companies just pay recovery to take it back to their depot, because they tend to have their own mechanics or partnerships with companies that do repairs so most of the recoveries seem to be just getting them off the road, Unless its just a blown tyre I think they do it all in-house if you will.
somebody drove into the back of a bus stopped at a bus stop ?? how the heck did that happen ?? .... oh hang on i can guess
Not driving properly I'd assume. Standard of driving has dropped significantly
It nice to see the different situations and the dangers you put yourself in to recover a HGV
Thanks very much for watching Barry.
Thank you for this video.
been trying to find a UK based Heavy recovery for some time.
it's something i'd have loved to got into. mad respect and be safe.
Glad it was helpful!
Love the videos! Keep up the good work.
Another top vid keep it up Steve !! 👍🏾
Hi Steve, great video. I'm going back to College next year to do Level 1, light vehicle maintenance and repair. Once completed, i'd like to go into a roadside recovery based job. I'm considering Level 2 also. The more qualifications i get should hopefully get me to where i need & want to be. Keep up the amazing videos, and all the best.
Thanks very much for watching the videos , glad you like them. All the best in your career path mate.
A very good Monday morning to you all from Wellington Somerset
Good video Steve, keep up the good work 👍
Brilliant video nice wrecker Steve cheers Dan
Yessa! Another successful recovery :D
Hi Steve hope you and the family have had a good weekend
Just found this on my explorer, well done ! Great stuff!
Interesting video once more Steve lots of points to take care of . .( Humour warning ) Been an accident locally involving a HGV carrying chocolate and another carrying Lego the Police have warned motorist the road will be choca block for awhile ..Stay safe and healthy ..
Another informative and enjoyable vid, thanks Steve.
Glad you enjoyed it
Only one thing mate, please don't leave the remote control lying around while you're underneath the vehicle. Never know what kind of yobbos would see it and think it would be funny to play around with it. Great video though mate 👍
Please keep doing this. Loving the videos!
Yes agree with you
Another brilliant video again as always
Hi their Steve hope this message gets to you and fines you in good health and l hope you and your team are very busy hope you could get the contract with East Yorkshire bus and coach company here in
Hull as they don't have their own recovery truck any more
After some one nicked their
Tow truck while the stupid engineers left the keys in the
Tow truck while busy in the
Depot repairing the broken down buses
Love your video keep up the good work
That's the 1st wireless rear light board I've ever seen.... When I see them recover in my company they don't have them, sometimes they can connect into the actual bus lights themselves
Thanks for the great video, it was entertaining as always! 👍🏻👌🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
All nicely explained. Enjoyed this video so I'm sure to check out some more of them.
Awesome, thank you!
another great 'in the life of' video keep it up 🙂
Cracking video, no huffing and puffing , effing and jeffing.. Well done.
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice job Steve 👌🏻
Oh steve , l so wanted to see you
clean up the site with broom &
dust pan 😭😭😭
That was another awesome bus towing video. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching the channel Alan.
steve is a cool guy great video
Greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷 excellent job good vídeos Steve
Hi thanks for watching, from Brazil you very welcome.
Just come across these videos, and have now subscribed.
Great content 👌
Welcome aboard!
Another job well done.
Is driving on the wrong side of the road (as shown in the introduction) a major cause
of the need of your services? Here in the English Midlands we still drive on the left.
I believe the change-over occurs somewhere in the vicinity of Watford but to be on
the safe side I don't go further south than Bromsgrove.
Hey Steve love the videos keep up the hard work. Can you possibly do some filming while unloading? It shows what its like to do a job for a recovery person like your self.
Thanks for watching glad you like them , will do.
Thanks Steve!@@HeavyRecoverywithSteve
Hello from the Netherlands and thanks for the video Steve
Hello again, thanks for watching videos much appreciated.
Hi Steve. Good vids, nice to see how it’s done in the UK. Am I right in saying that you remove half shafts because the gearbox bearings don’t get lubricated unless it’s in gear or is it something else?
Hi Will, we always disconnect the drive to safeguard the gearbox either prop shaft or half shaft.
Fascinating Stuff Steve. 🙂
Hi Steve thanks very much for watching , glad you like it.
Hi steve enjoying watching your vlog
Hi thanks for watching Perry , glad you like it.
Thank you once again and with out the silly commentary we get with Ch5
is a twist of fate we had this bus at Go northwest and it had a very similar rear end crash while we had it
Thanks for watching Hannah.
Hey their Steve hope there will be more brand new videos coming out soon with you hard at work would you ever think about coming to ANLABY ROAD DEPOT 252anlaby road
Hull
East Yorkshire bus and coach company
Awesome channel
Thank you!
I guess companies have all sorts of policies surrounding accents etc, but it would have been a lot easier just to drive the bus. The only damage was the rear bar from what i see, the fluids are from the car. Just needed the registration plate cable tied on and drive it back to the depot.
Nice video, now my question is why are you removing only the left side drive shaft? Is it to somehow engage Neutral with the diff or what?
Hi Matti, only need to remove either half shaft on Dennis 200 bus to disengage drive to gearbox and bus has no diff lock
I’m watching your videos
A thoroughly enjoyable video.
Apologies if this has previously been asked, but what type of lights did you fit to the rear of the bus?
Were they rechargeable?
Hi Gav , the lights our made by Connix rechargeable and wireless
Amazing
Thank you! Cheers!
Good evening mate love these videos especially when I’m learning the heavy recovery side of things my boss told me about you lol anyway what camera do you film with? Cheers 🤙🏻🏴
Hi thanks for watching, i film with a GoPro 5 , good luck with training ,its the type of job you can only learn by going out and doing it. Stay safe and you will find your own routine best of luck.
@@HeavyRecoverywithSteve thanks very much mate same camera I have i have a couple of videos on here but I mostly used TikTok lol yea I absolutely love learning it’s impossible to know it all so always learning mate thanks again and keep an eye out for my videos lol 🏴🤙🏻
Hi Steve that was interesting. I've been a commercial driver for 30 years now and it's great to see how you recover a vehicle. People like you have come to my rescue a number of times over the years, thank you all of them. One question, do you always lift the vehicle using the chassis rails, as for some strange reason I assumed you used the bottome rail of the axle to lift the vehicle. Great stuff and very informative. Best wishes Dave.
Hi Dave , with these low ride buses we can pick on chassis rails and run at lower height than folks under front axle mate
@@HeavyRecoverywithSteve Thanks for your reply. I started watching a number of your other videos after this one, and found I kind of answered my own question while I watched. Interesting stuff, and thanks for sharing your experiences. All the best Dave.
Subscribed!
Thanks for watching.
That drain, right where you want to undo bolts and drain oil, just my luck!
Steve you are a true professional. I saw another HGV recovery driver raise a truck and remove the blocks from under the wheels and work under the truck. Is this so wrong or have I got it wrong? Cheers!!
Hi thanks for watching, nope you not wrong at all my friend. Our training stipulates you dont work under anything vehicle without stands being used.
@@HeavyRecoverywithSteve how are the stands so strong? And if something hit the bus from behind whilst your under it and it comes off the blocks?
@@cma3632 im no professional, but id say its a risk every minute your under a vehicle, but you limit the time id asume with the hand brake on a leaving the axle into last plus, the boom hooked as soon as possible, but none of these would save you from another large vehicle hitting the rear i dont think but doing the lift from the side would ad some safety, but a small car would have a hard time moveing a bus i think. As i said i'm no pro but the boom lift should add some security to the vehicle so it cudnt come fully down to the ground,depends on angle.As the block just big enough to do the job so it maximises the strengh and strong tubes aswell as the design for maximum strenth i think but steves your man for the correct way,
@@cma3632 the stands are strong because they are made out of metal
And busses are surprisingly light considering their size and the stands only need to carry about 25% of the total weight of the bus because of the engine being in the back
Great video .Here in Ireland the national bus operators would recover by towing with a tow bar .Can you still do that is the UK or has health and safety put paid to that method?
Hi Vince, most buses we recover our unattended, so you would need the driver to steer the bus and engine able to run to work the power steering.Most modern buses dont have a attachment for a tow pole to be fitted to the front of bus. By front lifting the bus your in complete control of the recovery, steering and braking, thanks for watching from Ireland.
How often do you recover Renault trucks or Isuzus? I work on them and they’re always being recovered in 😂
This bus fleet no 44583 it is now in swansea with first cymru in Ravenhill bus depot
Thanks for watching Adrian ,thanks for info.
❤️From Malaysia 🇲🇾
Hi Kamarul , welcome and thanks for watching.
I bet it's a horrible job when it's chucking it down with rain or on a busy road /motorway with traffic whizzing by or when it's both.
the bus in the video was retired in March 2023, it was a Enviro200 bus
Thanks for watching.
Que cantidad de faena, me he cansado solo viéndolo, me quedo en el mundo de los vehículos ligeros
Hi Ed greetings ,thanks for watching.
Do you only connect one line to the bus? Isn't it the same as a trailer ie emergency and service?
No, there's no facility for connecting the recovery truck directly to the service brakes of the bus. But you don't need to.
In a typical tractor-trailer combination, the combined maximum weight is 44 tons and if you fail to connect the trailer's service brakes, then you've got a very serious danger when you try to stop all that weight on 2 or 3 axles (not to mention the increased risk of jack-knife).
However, in this case the wrecker probably weighs 10-15 tons on its own, compared to the 5.5 tons of the typical service bus; in other words, the wrecker has more than enough braking power to control the bus under tow.
All that auxilliary air hose is for is to ensure the park brake remains in the off position (by holding off the spring chambers) and to keep the suspension in the running position.
HTH
🚚👍👌
Thanks for watching.
Only in the UK would someone filming a towing video say “this is not meant for training purposes strictly entertainment”
Hi thanks for watching, yes not training instructor myself , just giving people who might be interested a look into the job of heavy recovery
Steve would you consider a model of your truck for model railway
Hi Eliot thanks for watching , new truck due to arrive this week , we see what these ones looks like.
@@HeavyRecoverywithSteve brilliant I will look forward to seeing it soon
Not a recovery person but how come only 1 half shaft needs to be removed and how do you know which side.
Hi Robert thanks for watching, on that Bus in video you can remove either half shafts and that will disconnect the drive to gearbox. Most trucks have diff locks so easier to remove and refit the half shaft opposite side to the diff lock.You can tell which side the diff lock side is because you will see a air pipe and electrical wiring going into of the axle the works the diff lock.
Probably broke down and then someone went into the back of it, knowing WirstBus ... 😒
Why do you have to remove the half-axle?
Hi thanks for asking, the half shaft was removed to safe guard any potential damage to the gearbox in towing.
That stinger has got a long reach! Who makes that wrecker?
Hi , truck recovery equipment built in UK by Roger Dysons
Imagine someone crashing the recovery vehichle
How many jobs a day do you do? And what is the average time it takes to load up?
Hi thanks for watching, normally about 4 jobs a day at present, generally hope to be loaded and on way within 30 minutes on most jobs.
@@HeavyRecoverywithSteve do you cover the home counties? Herts, Beds, Bucks and Cambs? Or do you only cover the southern region?
@@HeavyRecoverywithSteve Are you allowed to say how much is costs to recovery?
The company i work for has depots in Surrey/Berkshire/Buckinghamshire and Oxford.
@@lifecycles6368 in Australia most recovery jobs like this cost a minimum of 4grand.
It can cost as much as 60grand tho.
Aha! Parking on double yellow line is ticketable offence .....hmmmm
Thanks for watching James.
Whats the reason for pulling the Half shaft out?
Disconnects the gearbox and engine to prevent damage during the tow.
@@markdammes1947 Cant the transmission be put into neutral or was the bus an Auto?
Ron Pratt explained in one of his vids that that runs the risk of damaging the gearbox, due to speed.
@@IIGrayfoxII auto, Allison 2100 as standard
What bus was that
An ADL Enviro 200 with an E20D Chassis I would assume
@@nbirdie100 ah thanks! at first i thought it was an e400, but i noticed it was an single but wasnt sure if it was an e300 or 200
It's a 2013 ADL Enviro 200, operated by First Group. YX63LLC
The easiest way to tell an E300 from a long wheelbase E200 is to look at the back. As far as I am aware (and I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong) is that the E300 retained the same rear when the sides and front were re-styled in 2007 to match the E200. As far as I can tell, the rear of the E300 was never re-styled in the same way.
I am going to do something rare here and guess the reason for the rear being unchanged will have something to do with the larger engine bay to accommodate the 6 cylinder ISB6, compared to the E200's ISB4. I have both a E300 and long E200 at work; I shall measure and compare.
@@derekstuart5234 there are two subtle differences between E200 & E300 at the front too.
First, the front destination glass. It's a separate glass on the 300, whereas on the 200 is part of the windscreen.
Second is the wipers. On the 200, the N/S wiper parks above the O/S, whereas on the 300 the O/S wiper is the one on top.
I really need to get out more 😂
Not a job for a hefty man
Hi Tim thanks for watching my videos, we got some big boys doing the job, just need to lift bus on to some higher wheel stands to get under it i suppose lol.
You do get some very questionable driving, imagine running into the back of a bus sat at a bus stop.
SMH.
Thanks for watching Neil.