I ordered a Weliftrich 4 seater 60 volt lead acid from China with a 1 year warranty on parts including the batteries for $3200 almost 2 years ago and she works and runs like a dream. I ordered 6 more and sold them all within a week for double the price with only one returned to me for a few issues. Called the manufacturer and they refunded me first before sending a shipper to pick it up. You could have returned this for a refund. Most of them have minimal defects and issues and only a fool would pay $4K for a golf cart battery.
That is the absolute scariest looking battery unit I have ever seen. That is a catastrophic disaster waiting to happen. It's a good thing it failed before a member of the public could use it. Just wow.😮
Agreed 100%…. Literally a fire hazard. It’s not even a matter of if, but when! Plus zero manufacturer support. I had to find out for myself what you’d really get for $6500 because we heard this day in and day out. So it was an honest experiential order and I surely hope I’ve helped save someone from this headache
Just a quick update for everybody who watched this video, the manufacturer did confirm that they will not be replacing the battery. They also seem to have enjoyed the video! Thank you everyone for watching. Please be safe out there.
And we used a forklift to get it out of the container it came in. We’re a large dealership and service center for all makes and models of carts. We are pretty well equipped for non running situations
I think they’re just in line with Evolution batteries. These cars are both primarily “affordable” because they do use these cheap batteries. Keep in mind that Denago has only been delivering their golf cart since February of this year or a little less than seven months. It’s a rebranded Tao motors product, and Tao is not exactly exactly known for its longevity or reliability, they are a toy manufacturer. Unfortunately time will really tell….. the good news is I know that the fleet lithium batteries will drop into both brands in the future whenever the replacement time comes. And it’s a really simple five minute over the air update to program to your existing gauge and Cart My honest opinion…. I’m not a fan of either one. We brought in a brand called Gotraxx around this time last year and they were out of business in less than six months. Gotraxx Was the predecessor of the Denago… After witnessing this firsthand that’s why we’ve never even attempted to sell denago. It’s just not worth risking our reputation for quick easy sale. I would assume 75 to 80% of these things will never have a problem and the other 25% will be major issues for some people. So it’s a gamble, but there’s no denying that it’s a good looking car… I just don’t think people realize it’s a brand new brand and it’s a spinoff of a failed product line that was basically just rebranded.
Couldn’t agree more. I do think I saw LI ION. Written on top of the cells. I haven’t spent much time thinking of this battery again, but I’m not 100% sure that it actually is LiFep04
Is converting a 48v lead-acid cart to Lithium a viable solution? Or does it shake out too close to just buying a new cart, with all of the guts already setup for lithium? I have good LA batteries still, but one day they won't be anymore and I was just curious.
Oh absolutely yes it’s definitely doable but what most of our customers tend to find is that by the time they actually start adding up the cost of refurbishing an older unit they can get a much nicer brand new car with a 3 to 5 year warranty for less money and better equipment. Don’t get me wrong. I love building a custom golf cart on the weekends or after work in the garage, but the value isn’t there right now, I think Vibe hit it perfectly on the head with a $10999 starting MSRP
@@lakesidebuggies This was kind of what I was thinking. Battery + Controller + other odds and ends, I bet it ends up close to what I bought this RXV Freedom for when new. This is it's first set of new batts. Thx for the reply and good vids.
@@bradrehnstrom1068no doubt, I put well over $10k in to building a killer RXV for myself a couple years ago, in the end it was dangerously fast and had no front or rear brakes, it was scary and dangerous… but I loved it 😂
@@lakesidebuggies is Vibe a Chinese brand just like all the other ones? I’m currently looking to buy and would like a 4 seater (all seats forward facing), lithium, with a decent range and live in a hilly part of town. Don’t want China junk and don’t want to have to worry about my house burning down when I charge it. The big 3 (Club Car, EZGO and Yamaha) just don’t seem to be offering as nice of a cart as some of these other brands when it comes to options. However, I tend to trust their quality a little better…I’m torn!!
@thomaswattle9828 I think we have two work bed style carts left in stock they’re very old inventory. We discontinued evolution over a year ago. Unfortunately, that doesn’t mean that we have to just throw the carts away. We can’t necessarily give them all back either. So they have to go somewhere. We just discounted the hell out of them to get rid of them. One of those two carts needs the battery replaced. We’ve been waiting for about nine months on evolution to send us one, which is why we still have it
Ohhhh You got me. I can’t Do basic maths It’s $3,799 + $6500 is $11,299 I will do my best give more accurate information to my viewers. Thank you for watching the video that closely.
@@lakesidebuggies that math still isn't mathing. Also, most Chinese manufacturers do offer a warranty even if you buy through Alibaba. You just voided it when you opened the battery case.
Interesting, that is a possibility regarding why the charger didn’t charge the battery, but it wouldn’t have changed the fact that the battery would not stay on. Eventually, we would get the battery to turn on by holding the switches down but as soon as you release them the battery would shut off. I also attempted to charge the pack with multiple different chargers. And the terminals inside the pack put out 73.6 V. On a multimeter, indicating that the pack was fully charged. I don’t want to claim to be any sort of expert at any sort of thing, but I’ve seen thousands of these import carts as that’s basically our brand card, probably twice as many lithium batteries from various manufactures and inside of various carts. I’ve never seen a single one of them as poorly built as this cart
Who is the manufacturer of this cart? And you say that it's $6500, is that with the, usually a, $3000 shipping cost or $6500 + $3000? I'm just curious of the make of this cart. Also, why does the back tires look noticeably smaller than the front tires?
Sorry, I’m not going to endorse this thing. Back tires probably are smaller…. it was 7000 something total with shipping. But the battery is completely worthless so we’re in it for $11000 now, and it still doesn’t run lol
I wanted to do a driving video comparing it to other brands we carry. Unfortunately, I was never able to get it to run and I had to leave Dallas and head to our St Pete store and I left this car behind. With the original battery removed most of the golf cart looked acceptable but there’s clearly a wiring gremlin already and the car hasn’t even been driven. I plan to make a follow up video after I get in touch with Navitas vehicle Systems, because I think I can use the motor and the frame and chassis with navitas controller and their new digital dash to make a pretty decent little golf cart $15,000 later out of my own personal pocket with no retail markup
There are quite a few quality products out there, fleet lithium is our brand of choice because it exceeds all reasonable expectations in both quality and performance, but you also have Eco battery and Allied lithium who also make excellent product. The moral of the story for this video is not to scare people away from lithium altogether it’s to warn people of the pitfalls of cheap lithium, no name brands, or brand names you can’t even pronounce. This battery came in a really cheap import cart, which we’ve seen flood the market like crazy all over the United States, but especially in Florida and Texas. Spending $6500 to enter the golf cart market sounds like a good idea until you realize you’re $3 to $4k in to a second battery for it. This was a really expensive video for me to make, but I had zero doubt that my point would be well-made, and sure enough it was. So for the sake warning all the new buyers in the market, I feel like it was money well spent.
Lol you just crapping on it and giving side eye comments like, I guess it's nice. Lol So it's not a bad cart!! And from my understanding, the charging cable needs some type of American conversion. And for 6k compared to your 10k+ i think it's just fine
@SageMamoo if you felt like this was an advertisement buy one and introduce yourself to the issues. I don’t see any purpose of comments though. The car was delivered dead on arrival. The battery was a fire hazard so It required a new battery to get running…. They weren’t side eyes comments either. It was a genuine overview. Anyways the cart still doesn’t move more than 7 mph. It’s got an issue with the pinouts on the harness from the controller to the motor because it was improperly built and not quality control inspected before shipping. You seem to think that’s not a big deal either so let me know if you find a fix. Thanks
I ordered a Weliftrich 4 seater 60 volt lead acid from China with a 1 year warranty on parts including the batteries for $3200 almost 2 years ago and she works and runs like a dream. I ordered 6 more and sold them all within a week for double the price with only one returned to me for a few issues. Called the manufacturer and they refunded me first before sending a shipper to pick it up. You could have returned this for a refund. Most of them have minimal defects and issues and only a fool would pay $4K for a golf cart battery.
Oh wow, what a mess. I guess I'll be sticking with my Yamaha drive2. Thanks for the video!
@@JP1970 it won’t make much difference if you buy a $1000 lithium battery for it. The battery was is the biggest problem.
That is the absolute scariest looking battery unit I have ever seen. That is a catastrophic disaster waiting to happen. It's a good thing it failed before a member of the public could use it. Just wow.😮
Agreed 100%….
Literally a fire hazard. It’s not even a matter of if, but when! Plus zero manufacturer support. I had to find out for myself what you’d really get for $6500 because we heard this day in and day out. So it was an honest experiential order and I surely hope I’ve helped save someone from this headache
Just a quick update for everybody who watched this video, the manufacturer did confirm that they will not be replacing the battery. They also seem to have enjoyed the video! Thank you everyone for watching. Please be safe out there.
let everyone know WHAT IS THE CART BRAND?. Thank You.
@@irishuang-k8x it’s not a brand name it’s the cheap copy you can get in Ali Babba I made that very clear
That doesn't look like the battery in my Evolution. How did you get it off the delivery trailer to where it is now if it doesn't run.
This video is not about an evolution. Evolution batteries are junk. But this video has nothing to do with evolution.
And we used a forklift to get it out of the container it came in. We’re a large dealership and service center for all makes and models of carts. We are pretty well equipped for non running situations
@@lakesidebuggies got it. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
Thanks for the video, I have a question, what do you think of the Denago batteries? Thanks!
I think they’re just in line with Evolution batteries. These cars are both primarily “affordable” because they do use these cheap batteries. Keep in mind that Denago has only been delivering their golf cart since February of this year or a little less than seven months. It’s a rebranded Tao motors product, and Tao is not exactly exactly known for its longevity or reliability, they are a toy manufacturer.
Unfortunately time will really tell….. the good news is I know that the fleet lithium batteries will drop into both brands in the future whenever the replacement time comes. And it’s a really simple five minute over the air update to program to your existing gauge and Cart
My honest opinion…. I’m not a fan of either one. We brought in a brand called Gotraxx around this time last year and they were out of business in less than six months. Gotraxx Was the predecessor of the Denago… After witnessing this firsthand that’s why we’ve never even attempted to sell denago. It’s just not worth risking our reputation for quick easy sale.
I would assume 75 to 80% of these things will never have a problem and the other 25% will be major issues for some people. So it’s a gamble, but there’s no denying that it’s a good looking car… I just don’t think people realize it’s a brand new brand and it’s a spinoff of a failed product line that was basically just rebranded.
Thanks a lot! The good news is that they gave me a 6 year warranty on the battery. Let’s see how it goes.
Six-year warranty only last as long as the company.
Go Trax, their sister company only lasted four months before closing up shop and becoming Denago
Which four seater forward facing would you recommend
Hands down the vibe flex
That battery is straight up criminal. At least its LiFePo4
Couldn’t agree more. I do think I saw LI ION. Written on top of the cells. I haven’t spent much time thinking of this battery again, but I’m not 100% sure that it actually is LiFep04
he send you wrong charger, only change the Anerican standard charger is enough
Yeah, that’s definitely not the case
Is converting a 48v lead-acid cart to Lithium a viable solution? Or does it shake out too close to just buying a new cart, with all of the guts already setup for lithium? I have good LA batteries still, but one day they won't be anymore and I was just curious.
Oh absolutely yes it’s definitely doable but what most of our customers tend to find is that by the time they actually start adding up the cost of refurbishing an older unit they can get a much nicer brand new car with a 3 to 5 year warranty for less money and better equipment.
Don’t get me wrong. I love building a custom golf cart on the weekends or after work in the garage, but the value isn’t there right now, I think Vibe hit it perfectly on the head with a $10999 starting MSRP
@@lakesidebuggies This was kind of what I was thinking. Battery + Controller + other odds and ends, I bet it ends up close to what I bought this RXV Freedom for when new. This is it's first set of new batts. Thx for the reply and good vids.
@@bradrehnstrom1068no doubt, I put well over $10k in to building a killer RXV for myself a couple years ago, in the end it was dangerously fast and had no front or rear brakes, it was scary and dangerous… but I loved it 😂
@@bradrehnstrom1068 thanks for watching! There’s always a huge sense of accomplishment when you build a badass cart from the ground up.
@@lakesidebuggies is Vibe a Chinese brand just like all the other ones? I’m currently looking to buy and would like a 4 seater (all seats forward facing), lithium, with a decent range and live in a hilly part of town. Don’t want China junk and don’t want to have to worry about my house burning down when I charge it. The big 3 (Club Car, EZGO and Yamaha) just don’t seem to be offering as nice of a cart as some of these other brands when it comes to options. However, I tend to trust their quality a little better…I’m torn!!
How do you feel about the evolution d5 ranger?
Nothing good to say about evolution. The batteries are terrible and the warranty program is a joke.
@@lakesidebuggies then why are you selling them ?
@thomaswattle9828 I think we have two work bed style carts left in stock they’re very old inventory. We discontinued evolution over a year ago. Unfortunately, that doesn’t mean that we have to just throw the carts away. We can’t necessarily give them all back either. So they have to go somewhere. We just discounted the hell out of them to get rid of them.
One of those two carts needs the battery replaced. We’ve been waiting for about nine months on evolution to send us one, which is why we still have it
I would use the cells and make a good cell for cheap
These were actually cheap b grade cells they are just really good for recycling
How did it go from $6,500 to $11,000? Is that battery you put in $4,500?
Ohhhh You got me. I can’t Do basic maths
It’s $3,799 + $6500 is $11,299 I will do my best give more accurate information to my viewers. Thank you for watching the video that closely.
@@lakesidebuggies that math still isn't mathing. Also, most Chinese manufacturers do offer a warranty even if you buy through Alibaba. You just voided it when you opened the battery case.
Probably needs 240v to charge to original battery.
Interesting, that is a possibility regarding why the charger didn’t charge the battery, but it wouldn’t have changed the fact that the battery would not stay on. Eventually, we would get the battery to turn on by holding the switches down but as soon as you release them the battery would shut off. I also attempted to charge the pack with multiple different chargers. And the terminals inside the pack put out 73.6 V. On a multimeter, indicating that the pack was fully charged.
I don’t want to claim to be any sort of expert at any sort of thing, but I’ve seen thousands of these import carts as that’s basically our brand card, probably twice as many lithium batteries from various manufactures and inside of various carts.
I’ve never seen a single one of them as poorly built as this cart
Who is the manufacturer of this cart? And you say that it's $6500, is that with the, usually a, $3000 shipping cost or $6500 + $3000? I'm just curious of the make of this cart. Also, why does the back tires look noticeably smaller than the front tires?
Sorry, I’m not going to endorse this thing. Back tires probably are smaller…. it was 7000 something total with shipping. But the battery is completely worthless so we’re in it for $11000 now, and it still doesn’t run lol
would feel better seeing you drive the cart. 11k is still cheaper.... im sure you can sell it to someone
I wanted to do a driving video comparing it to other brands we carry. Unfortunately, I was never able to get it to run and I had to leave Dallas and head to our St Pete store and I left this car behind.
With the original battery removed most of the golf cart looked acceptable but there’s clearly a wiring gremlin already and the car hasn’t even been driven.
I plan to make a follow up video after I get in touch with Navitas vehicle Systems, because I think I can use the motor and the frame and chassis with navitas controller and their new digital dash to make a pretty decent little golf cart $15,000 later out of my own personal pocket with no retail markup
After you do all that, I'll give you $10k for it 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 kidding, sometimes you gotta laugh to keep from crying.
lol pretty much. I’d probably take the 10k for it and count my blessings haha
OK, so much for the horrible and the terrible. Can you get over it and let everyone know WHAT IS THE CART BRAND?. Thank You.
@@raulcaraza3568 it’s not a brand name cart there’s nothing to hide about that
This crap will give lithium a bad name
Cheap lithium no doubt. I love how he shows off the inside of the fleet battery, that looks incredibly well built
There are quite a few quality products out there, fleet lithium is our brand of choice because it exceeds all reasonable expectations in both quality and performance, but you also have Eco battery and Allied lithium who also make excellent product. The moral of the story for this video is not to scare people away from lithium altogether it’s to warn people of the pitfalls of cheap lithium, no name brands, or brand names you can’t even pronounce. This battery came in a really cheap import cart, which we’ve seen flood the market like crazy all over the United States, but especially in Florida and Texas. Spending $6500 to enter the golf cart market sounds like a good idea until you realize you’re $3 to $4k in to a second battery for it. This was a really expensive video for me to make, but I had zero doubt that my point would be well-made, and sure enough it was. So for the sake warning all the new buyers in the market, I feel like it was money well spent.
If you can’t fix it or find parts lol
What I nice new pos 😂❤
@@lawn2learn no kidding. Total waste of my hard earned money!!!
That’s too bad, you should go to supplier to get refund 😊
I did try
Lol you just crapping on it and giving side eye comments like, I guess it's nice. Lol
So it's not a bad cart!! And from my understanding, the charging cable needs some type of American conversion.
And for 6k compared to your 10k+ i think it's just fine
Buy one! Also, the battery that came in the car didn’t work at all. Maybe you should watch the rest of the video.
@lakesidebuggies I watched it all the way through 🙄
@SageMamoo if you felt like this was an advertisement buy one and introduce yourself to the issues. I don’t see any purpose of comments though. The car was delivered dead on arrival. The battery was a fire hazard so It required a new battery to get running…. They weren’t side eyes comments either. It was a genuine overview.
Anyways the cart still doesn’t move more than 7 mph. It’s got an issue with the pinouts on the harness from the controller to the motor because it was improperly built and not quality control inspected before shipping. You seem to think that’s not a big deal either so let me know if you find a fix. Thanks
Remember when golf carts were used for golf and people used to walk
Remember when there was no internet and people had to go the library? Go there.
You get what you pay for. "Such is life."
@@dropbear9526 100%
@@lakesidebuggies I have gone with the name brands all my life! Never been disappointed either.
@@bradlindeman7417amen. If a product doesn’t have a brand name behind it, who stands behind it?